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Speaker 3: Just defending that bell all the time. Uh yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Try to to make fight with great again.

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Speaker 2: It's going good man. Yeah, some fun fights, some good defenses.

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Speaker 2: And now you got to young guy in front of

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Speaker 2: you that is a destined right to try and challenge

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Speaker 2: your throne.

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Speaker 3: What do you make it?

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Speaker 1: Joshua Van, I'm happy, you know, to have this name,

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Speaker 1: a new name, nobody expect Joshava and fight for the

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Speaker 1: title and the end and the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 3: And that's su so amazing, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I think all the fans like that, especially because

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Speaker 1: born in two thoul first guy born two thousand to

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Speaker 1: fight for the belt. That's so inspiration for all this

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Speaker 1: new generation, all this new fighter generation you know, they

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Speaker 1: guys figure out, uh, this moment change, you know, young

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Speaker 1: guys coming. And I like to call me an old

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Speaker 1: school guy. My mind, my mindset, my style. But I

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Speaker 1: see a lot of good things about Joshava. You know,

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Speaker 1: he have very good, strong mindset. You know. Uh, he

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Speaker 1: talked about he don't like to talk about the different

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Speaker 1: the age he has me because if he beat me,

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Speaker 1: he don't want people talking about old.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. And then he talked about something about

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Speaker 3: the game plan.

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Speaker 1: The guy say, hey, you have a gaming plane, and

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Speaker 1: some he talk about something. I understand this very very quickly.

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Speaker 1: You don't need a game plane. You know, when you

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Speaker 1: go to the fight, if you have a game plane,

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: Of course you have your game plane.

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Speaker 1: You make your your movements in the gym for you

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Speaker 1: open it, but you not can take that for and

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Speaker 1: like hold that for you in the fight. You know,

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Speaker 1: all changing when the fight's starting, you know. And I

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Speaker 1: understand his mindset is very strong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You know the last fight you fought, Kay car

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Speaker 2: Frons right, he fought on the same night as you guys,

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Speaker 2: when he and Brendon Ravaul had that fight. Did you

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Speaker 2: you think it was because of the circumstances he was

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Speaker 2: in the arena, he was there, he got to go

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Speaker 2: on the ring with you. Did you watch those guys

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Speaker 2: fight and when he was done, go, that's the kid

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna fight next.

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Speaker 1: No, of course when they when he accepts the fight

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Speaker 1: from Moreno and Taira. He makes his a good statement

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Speaker 1: But when he fights with me, saturn lyy, he have

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Speaker 1: And uh, this makes me motivation a lot That's why

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Speaker 2: You have the filling the belt multiple times now, but

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Speaker 2: as the defenses come, they've gotten easier. How do you

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Speaker 2: think that you're separating yourself from the division because before

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Speaker 2: you were in these born burners with Moreno, but the

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Speaker 2: last two with Carl France, with Sokora, it almost seemed easy.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: How are you separating from these guys now as you

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Speaker 2: have become the have you been the champion longer?

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Speaker 1: I think after they take the belt, I try I

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Speaker 1: put a lot of work in the gym. I haven't

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Speaker 1: been working a lot to get this belt. In the

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Speaker 1: moment I take the belt, and the moment I take

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Speaker 1: the belt went back to the gym, and then my

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Speaker 3: I understand. I'm not more changing.

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Speaker 2: I keep saying that your training partners beat Your training

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Speaker 2: partners are not beating you in the gym, pantos all

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Speaker 2: the time. I understand you like want to make your

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Speaker 2: partners feel good. They're not beating you in the gym.

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Speaker 1: I'm from America Top team and I know you are,

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Speaker 1: but still, no, no, we have very tough, tough challenges

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Speaker 1: than in my gym, you know.

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Speaker 3: But what I try to say.

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Speaker 1: If I'm not one hundred percent, like when I'm back

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Speaker 1: to gym, you need like a climb again the mountain

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Speaker 1: to get your shape, to get you a level. And

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Speaker 1: the guys take advantage about that. You know, and I understand.

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Speaker 1: I'm not more CHAMPI of the word I need. I

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Speaker 1: I try to say. I'm not putting my mind on

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Speaker 3: Is so hard.

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Speaker 1: It is and uh, but after these two years, I'm

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Speaker 1: learning a lot. I respect more my body. I get

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Speaker 1: and a lot of guys ask me why you did.

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Speaker 3: It's not just about what I did.

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Speaker 1: Is what I not? Did you know?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, things I'm cut away.

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Speaker 1: It's like when I lost my kids, and sometimes not

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Speaker 3: You have call me sometimes to go to the to

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Speaker 1: I say no because I want training and all the

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Speaker 1: respect I have to another fighters for my division. You

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Speaker 1: know this makes me better. You know, I think I'm

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Speaker 1: a better athlete. Right now, and because that I can

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Speaker 1: make a better performance in the aucto, you know, and

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Speaker 1: at one point too is like a before I try

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Speaker 1: to make all the fights like a street fighter, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I don't need that. I have a lot of technique.

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Speaker 1: I fight for like close to twenty years. I have

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Speaker 1: a professional fighters. I can put my skills out. And

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Speaker 1: when I put that out, especially with as according car

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Speaker 1: of friends, everybody can see I'm starting to finish my fights,

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Speaker 2: When I'm not try to rush, it's more easy for me.

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Speaker 2: When you get guys to the ground, they don't seem

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Speaker 2: to have much for you. That would seem to be

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Speaker 2: the easiest path to victory this weekend with Joshua, then

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Speaker 2: he's a tremendous boxer. At times, we have seen you

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Speaker 2: prove that you can compete there. Do we see that

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Speaker 2: couple of fights, because it was take him down, control them,

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Speaker 2: submit them, and it would seem as though this matchup

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Speaker 3: Again. That's nice because you have the same moment.

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Speaker 1: You have a very good boxing joshuavaon he have the

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Speaker 1: best takedown defense too, you know, and I want that challenger.

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Speaker 1: You know. I think you feel the same when you

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Speaker 1: go to the fight, when you go to the fight

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Speaker 1: Saturday night. I want challenge myself, you know. I want

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Speaker 1: to fight with the best fights all the war. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I'm here, you know. And you have to

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Speaker 1: make my dream life, you know, that's my dream fight

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Speaker 1: to the best fighters of the ward. And I have

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Speaker 1: Ava and I want to see what's coming for me,

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Speaker 1: you know. I know he's a very very good boxing.

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Speaker 1: But I improved a lot of my striking. You're talking

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Speaker 3: I think I want all the rounds.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't remember I get any punch make

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of experience in my striking game,

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Speaker 1: My jiu JITs can be in another level, you know,

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Speaker 1: And this helped me a lot but when the fight starting,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put everything out and uh I figured out,

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Speaker 1: take without difference too, and in thirty seconds I have

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Speaker 2: He's young, and he's a guy that fights with a

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Speaker 2: lot of forward pressure. You don't back up. It's like

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Speaker 2: your pressure is what's really hard for guys to deal with,

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Speaker 2: but he wants to go forward too. When you guys

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Speaker 2: to kind of be going backwards a bit knowing that

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Speaker 2: a lot of times when I would fight, I would

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Speaker 2: they would kind of go back and try to counter

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Speaker 2: to try to get me on the takedown attempts. Do

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Speaker 2: you think that he will try to go forward? Is

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Speaker 2: to back him up?

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Speaker 1: Ye're talking about the pressure he make Joshua have a

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Speaker 1: lot of expect.

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Speaker 3: And I have the same one.

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Speaker 1: You know. I put the pressure in my fights. He

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Speaker 1: put pressure in his fight. He liked to put everything out.

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Speaker 1: He don't make a game plans that kid remember me,

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Speaker 1: you know, not kid guy. I don't want to put

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Speaker 1: his like he's young, young, but he's not.

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Speaker 3: He's a man, you know. And another point, you know,

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Speaker 3: he's the man of the house.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: That's so great history he have, you know about come

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Speaker 2: How much is experienced going to play a part in this?

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm learning all the time. I'm learning with

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Speaker 1: I learned, but I learned more when I lose, you know,

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Speaker 3: One for me.

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Speaker 2: Champ life now right, You're the champion of the world.

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Speaker 2: You got your beautiful family live in America, South Florida.

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Speaker 2: When you look at life like, how appreciative are you

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Speaker 3: I never I never dream on life like that.

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Speaker 1: You know. I'm I'm super happy everything I conquer side

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't need a lot to living happy.

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Speaker 1: You know, I talked that before I get my first

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Speaker 1: But right now it's a day after day, you know.

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Speaker 1: I know I can change a lot of lives with

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Speaker 1: you know. I like to say people's list to me

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Speaker 1: I have so much to share with everybody. I don't

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Speaker 1: But it's hard to say that.

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Speaker 3: But I think I make a lot of mistakes in

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Speaker 1: Now I'm a bet, i'man and I can help a

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Speaker 3: You're the man, You're the man, champ. You are guys.

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Speaker 2: Alejandre Pantosia Defensive Championship this weekend gives Josh Ravana at you.

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Speaker 2: SC three twenty three made sure you had the pay

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Speaker 2: once again. Hey, not many believe that anyone would ever

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Speaker 2: challenge Dimitrius Johnson's record for title defenses or the greatest

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Speaker 2: flyweight of all time. Right now, Alexandre Pantosia is nipping

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Speaker 2: octagon this weekend. Thanks for checking in with me, Champ,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Until next time, guys, Peace,