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This is the Jesse Kelly Show. 20 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes you shouldn't have faith. We will get into that today. 21 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: I will explain later on we have a political rival arrested, 22 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: we have big foot hunting, we have a million jobs 23 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: already lost. We have Tulsi Gabbard taking over the Republican Party. Yeah, 24 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: we have a lot to get to today. But first 25 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: I give you my word. I don't care if we 26 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: have to add another hour to the radio show today. 27 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: I am going to finish this little story of our 28 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: campaign and the Allied campaign in Italy. And even then 29 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to skip over so many parts. Oh, we 30 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: will return, We will return to it. Remember at Jesse 31 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: Kelly DC on Twitter and Instagram for now eight seven 32 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: seven three seven seven four three seven three Jesse at 33 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly show dot com. Let us go back to Italy. 34 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: If you missed the beginning two parts of this, you're 35 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,279 Speaker 1: gonna have to go get the show. It's all podcasts 36 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: that on iHeart, Google, Spotify, and iTunes. Now we landed 37 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: in Italy. Our naval guns are creating real havoc for 38 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: the Germans. But the Germans are dog in the dugging 39 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: very well. And at one point the Germans decide they're 40 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: going to tactically retreat to something called the Gustav line. 41 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: What the Gustave line is It was the narrowest part 42 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: of Italy crossing it. You know, if you're gonna build 43 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: a wall across it. This was the narrowest part. But 44 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: it was more than the narrowest part. It was narrow 45 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: and the terrain was just so absurdly in favor of 46 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: the defender in this particular line, and most of literally 47 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: Italy anyway, but in this particular line. And remember this 48 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna keep coming back to it because it's 49 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: so important. Italy is the most undertold story of World 50 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: War Two because it wasn't D Day, it wasn't the 51 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: Normandy invasion, it wasn't Pearl Harbor, it wasn't this, it 52 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: wasn't that. I mean, there's so many of these huge 53 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: high points of World War Two that overshadow other things, 54 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: and often understandably. I mean, you think of the World 55 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: War Two, it's Holocaust, Pearl Harbor, Normandy, it's these things 56 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: that are big. But the fighting in Italy, and you're 57 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: gonna see this today, the fighting in Italy was perhaps 58 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: the most fighting and all the most vicious fighting in 59 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: the entire war, almost undoubtedly some of the most vicious 60 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: fighting that the US ever went through. It's all mountains. 61 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: You have Germans, Germans who know how to defend well prepared. 62 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: They these Germans invented bunkers in peel boxes. Now I 63 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: obviously don't think they invented them, but I mean they 64 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: perfected them. I remember back in World War One. If 65 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: you do any reading on World War One, and you've 66 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: heard any of my World War One stuff, do you 67 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: remember the British and the French they had trenches too, 68 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: You know, the Germans had trenches and the British and 69 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: the French had trenches. World War One was all about 70 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: this trench warfare. I remember reading several times where the 71 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: British or French would push the Germans off the line, 72 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: or the Germans would vacate a portion of the line, 73 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: and the French and the British would go storming in 74 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: and they would storm into the German trenches and they 75 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: were just dumbfounded that these aren't trenches, these are these 76 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: are entire cities underground. The Germans rana had wallpaper, running water. 77 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: The Germans just do that stuff better than other people. 78 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: And now you've taken World War Two, You've taken the 79 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: Germans who do that stuff better than other people, and 80 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: you've put them in the mountains and in the rivers, 81 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: and we're talking rocky mountains. These guys, they were very, 82 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: very good. So when I say the Germans retreated to 83 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: the Gustav line, it was a well prepared line they had, 84 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: They had prepared ahead of time, and they were always 85 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: planning to tack the retreat back there. They weren't trying 86 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: to die on the beaches. They weren't running screaming for 87 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: the gustav line. They were just Okay, let's move back 88 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: to the Gustav line now. And before I point out 89 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: some of the ugly things that frankly we did today 90 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: as Americans, ugly things when it comes to civilian deaths 91 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: and destruction of historical monuments and things like that, you 92 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: should know that they all were writing about it throughout 93 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: the Italian campaign. How sad they were. The British talked 94 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: about it, the Americans talked about it. There were several 95 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: countries fighting through here. How sad it was to fight 96 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: through Italian cities. Because of the history. Who doesn't know 97 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: Roman history, I mean, everybody knows some of it. I 98 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: don't want to give you the impression, ever, that we 99 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: were dropping a bomb or artillery or or blowing up 100 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: a building with some historical significance in the Allies were 101 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: all those dirty Italians nice? Their building's gone. It was 102 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: something that bothered everyone, and the Allies are starting to 103 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: get extremely, extremely concerned at this point. You see, you 104 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: and I get to look back at things like World 105 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: War Two with twenty twenty hindsight, and you know, we won. 106 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: We always won, It was always inevitable. Now it was not, 107 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: and we were having a very difficult time fighting our 108 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: way through Italy, very difficult time. Now, Hitler does make 109 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: a mistake at this point, if you want to call 110 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: it that, he makes He takes a risk and it 111 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: doesn't pay off. I'll put it that way. You have 112 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: tons of elite German troops here. But Hitler takes four 113 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: of his best divisions from Italy at this point and 114 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: sends them to Russia. And that very well may have 115 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: saved the Allied campaign in Italy because he replaces his 116 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: four top notch crack divisions with three extremely beaten up 117 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: divisions and sends them into Italy. Now there's still German troops, 118 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: still experienced German troops. These guys are not not garbage 119 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: by any stretch of the imagination, but it does weaken 120 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: the Germans enough, which brings us to where we're going 121 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: to go today. A place called Monte Casino. You've probably 122 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: never heard of it unless you're an Italian campaign freak, 123 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: and that is sad because this is vicious fighting they 124 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: call it. You remember our World War One stuff we've 125 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: talked about before, Verdon. You remember Verdon in World War One, 126 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: that horrible, horrible battle, maybe the worst battle of the war. 127 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: They call the Battle of Monte Casino the Verdon of 128 00:08:54,400 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: World War Two. It's ugly and what it is, and 129 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: you can you can look. You can look it up, 130 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: and you should look it up. Look up Monte m 131 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: O Nte Casinos c A S S I N O. 132 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: It's a monastery. That's what you want to call it. 133 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: An abbey I heard people call it depending on what 134 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:24,119 Speaker 1: I was reading. It's a fortress. It's fourteen hundred years old. 135 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: And when I say fortress, it is the most perfect 136 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: natural fortress I've ever seen in my entire life. Now, 137 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: why is it a fortress? Well, you and I live. 138 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: I've talked about it before. I'm not going to go 139 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: into it right now, but I've talked about our twenty 140 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: twenty American version of Christianity. We have here very much. 141 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: Oh you know that, sing some songs and be nice 142 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: to everybody. You just have to be just have to 143 00:09:54,840 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: be meek. God slap me around. Well. Monastery used to 144 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: be fortresses so they could kill people who were trying 145 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: to kill them. This was intentionally built as a fortress, 146 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: a place where you could worship God and kill anybody 147 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: who was trying to stop you from doing so. That's 148 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: how it was. And if you look at it, it 149 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: sits on. If you're not in a place you can 150 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: image search it. Just know it's huge. It sits on 151 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: this I mean looks like a mountaintop. It's four it's 152 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: seventeen hundred feet high, and it's almost sheer cliffs around 153 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: it that overlooked the town of Casino and now we 154 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: have Now we have to fight our way through it, 155 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be really ugly, all right, And talk 156 00:10:43,080 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: about that in a political rivalry arrested. Just see Kelly. 157 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: When I first started talking to the super beats people, 158 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: I had a big hesitation because you know, you know, 159 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: I don't don't work with anything I wouldn't use. I 160 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: hate beats. 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You eat two super Beats chewables once 171 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: a day. That helps you take care of that heart, 172 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: and that's the only heart you're ever gonna have. Do 173 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: it so easy. Go to superbeats dot com slash jesse 174 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: that Superbeats dot com slash jesse that gets you two 175 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: free thirty days supplies. Oh boy, we have big foot hunting. 176 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm not even joking. We have the irs coming after 177 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: Trump groups. This is a man. They are taking this 178 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: capital raid and they are milking it for all it's worth, 179 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: and they are doing some really really really ugly stuff 180 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: with it. Something to keep our eyes on, because you 181 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: do not have to look far to see what happens 182 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: if you don't. Now back to our story here, Monte Casino, 183 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: like I said, the perfect natural fortress. It is right 184 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: on that gustav line I told you about. And a 185 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: funny thing was happening. So we have to step away 186 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: from Monte Casino for a second and go to a 187 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: different battle that's linked with this one, and it's its 188 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: own separate story. But you know, we have Italy and 189 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: there's this line across that. Don't worry about where the 190 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: line is. We're south of Rome at this point, about 191 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: eighty miles south of Rome, but there's a line across Italy, 192 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: the Gustave line. And like I said, the fighting had 193 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: been mountains and rivers and had been brutal, brutal fighting 194 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: Germans dug in period. But why were we doing that? 195 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:52,479 Speaker 1: There were a lot of people, Churchhill included, who asked, 196 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: why are we fighting over every single square inch of 197 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: Italy from south to north when we can land anywhere, 198 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: we have naval superiority. We can just land our troops anywhere. 199 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: And this is something, this is something we have to 200 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: pause on for a moment because history is a funny thing, 201 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: and you get such twisted, manipulated history out there. And 202 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: here is the truth. World War Two was so much 203 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: more dysfunctional leadership wise than you can possibly imagine. Then 204 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: you can possibly imagine. They were constantly the generals the 205 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: world leaders work constantly yelling at each other, hated each other, 206 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: petty rivalries, political rivalries, generals with gigantic egos. This was 207 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: a constant struggle. This British general hated this American general, 208 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: but he also hated this other British general. And he really, 209 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: really he had an old history with the French. Show 210 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: he's not gonna work with the French over here but 211 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: this world. And we don't think about that. When you 212 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: think about World War two, what do you picture a 213 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: church hill and FDR sitting there working it all out 214 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: like gentlemen. And then of course they handed all the 215 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: reins over to MacArthur, who just he just told everybody 216 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: where to go, and everyone said, okay, General, I'll go 217 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: do that right away. And it's further greater good after all. 218 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: No no, no, no no no no. It was all 219 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: still government, meaning it was all still very inefficient egos 220 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: going wild. As you can imagine world leaders in generals, 221 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: there's one or two egos there in the room, screwing 222 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: everything up for everybody. It was a dysfunctional mess. And 223 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: sometimes oftentimes when they wouldn't agree on one strategy let's 224 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: do this, they would try to split the baby, for 225 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: lack of a better word way to put it, and 226 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: they would try to halfway do both. Do you remember 227 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: I said Churchill wanted to land anywhere? Why are we 228 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: fighting through all of it? We didn't. We decided to 229 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: do both north of the gustav Line, so passed it 230 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: towards Rome. Passed it. There was a place called Anzio, 231 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: and the plan was this, let's land some troops on Anzio. 232 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: When we land the troops on Anzio, they should be 233 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: okay because the Germans are so preoccupied with us fighting 234 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: down here on the gustav Line that the troops who 235 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: land in Anzio they should be able to tear right 236 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: through all these Germans and just go right to Rome. 237 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that was the plan, and frankly that might 238 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: have worked, except remember those petty rivalries we just talked 239 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: about like thirty seconds ago. General Clark, he was really 240 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: the man running the American troops in Italy, almost universally 241 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: despised by all of his men and the history books. 242 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: Not a well thought of general. Buy in his stretch 243 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: of the imagination, I wasn't there. You know how twisted 244 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: history can get. Maybe he was, Maybe he was a lion. 245 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: He is not well thought of by his man. He's 246 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: just not. But General Clark sends American troops, obviously with 247 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: the British troops to land and Anzio. Only he works 248 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: with an opposite purpose of the one Churchill wanted. Churchill 249 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: wanted them to land in Anzio and blow and go 250 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: charge right through head towards Rome. Keep the Germans on 251 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: their heroes, keep them discombibulated. Clark is very very very 252 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: worried about taking too many losses. He doesn't like the 253 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: plan to land in Anzio anyway, so he instructs his general, 254 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: instructs his general, be very careful, be very very very careful, 255 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: don't move, don't risk anything, don't So he's there with 256 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: the opposite purpose of the entire mission, and it just 257 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: I will do Anzio another time. I'm not going to 258 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: do it this week, probably won't even do it this month. 259 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: But just know this. The American troops land there, the 260 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: British troops land there, and they promptly take their time, 261 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: just loading gear onto the beaches and such. But because 262 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: they took their time, it allowed the Germans to gather 263 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: up and regroup up there, and Anzio was absolutely vicious, 264 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: turned into a nightmare, turned into an absolute nightmare, which 265 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: brings us back to Cassie. Why did I bring up Anzio. 266 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: I'll get to that in a moment. Casino, first they 267 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: start focusing on what the gigantic monastery on top of 268 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: the mountain, the big fortress. Remember there's a town, Casino, 269 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: and then there's the monastery up top. They're focusing on 270 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: the monastery as you would if you were sitting there, 271 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: and they're thinking, the Germans must be dug into that place. 272 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: So what do we do? Wish I should tell you 273 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: there are people who live in Casino to this day, 274 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: at Tians who live there who still hate Americans. What 275 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: did we do? Well? We bombed it to dust. We 276 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: bombed the monastery, the fourteen hundred year old monastery into 277 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: the ground. And that turned out to be really, really 278 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: stupid for a couple of different reasons. One the Germans 279 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: were not dug into the monastery portion of it yet. 280 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: But the second we bombed it into the ground. Remember 281 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: I just got done talking about the rivalries. Well, the 282 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: Indian troops. There were Indians obviously fighting on behalf of 283 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: the Brits, and they were excellent troops. The Indian troops 284 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: were supposed to move in right after we were done bombing, 285 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: because that's what you do, You bomb and then move, 286 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: bomb and then move, Except the coordination was a mess. 287 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: Everyone hated each other. The Indian troops took too long. 288 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: By the time we got to where the bombed out 289 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: monastery was, the Germans were now dug into a perfect 290 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: defensive position. And it is a disaster. You have cracked 291 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: German troops on a mountain fortress with perfect fortifications around them. 292 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: It is a sniper war. It is a booby trap war. 293 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: It is a mine You remember that story about it. Yeah, Well, 294 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: I mean how we just talked about we looked at 295 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: everything as a big victory in World War Two. We're 296 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: losing right now in Italy. We are losing. We're losing 297 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: to the Germans. And the fighting conditions are terrible because 298 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: the Germans were not only great at digging in, they 299 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: were great at using every part of their environment to 300 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: their advantage. They actually damned up a river and marshed 301 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: the area. They turned the town into a marsh. And 302 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: now we have to deal with the town. And you 303 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: thought the monastery was bad, the town is gosh, maybe 304 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: even worse. We'll talk about that. Hang up, Wake up 305 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: and text, Text and eat, Text and catch the bus. 306 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: Text and this year stop wait text and be late 307 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: to work. Sorryly, Text and work, Text and pretend to work. 308 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: Text and x surprised when someone calls you out for 309 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: not working. Maybe text and meet up with a friend 310 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: you haven't seen in forever. Oh, Text and complain that 311 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: they're on their phone the whole time. Text and listen 312 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: to them, complain that you're on your phone the whole time. 313 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: Text and whatever. But when you get behind the wheel, 314 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: give your phone to a passenger, put it in the 315 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: glove box. Just don't text and drive. Visit stop texts, 316 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: Stop rex dot org. A public service announcement brought to 317 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: you by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the 318 00:22:46,520 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: ad Council. Presentation by the parties, will commence the week 319 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: of February eighth. The January sixth insurrection at the Capitol, 320 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: incited by Donald J. Trump, was a day none of 321 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: us will ever forget. We all want to put this 322 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: awful chapter in our nation's history behind us. But healing 323 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: and unity will only come if there is truth and accountability, 324 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: and that is what this trial will provide. We can 325 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: only we can only unite after the trial. That doesn't wait, 326 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think they know what unity is. 327 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: That doesn't sound right? All right, hang on, I'm gonna 328 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: get to the politician arrested, so on, so forth. Let 329 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: me finish up here with the Balamontic Casino. We now 330 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: have to try to take the town. And again we 331 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: bombed it. And when I say we bombed it, this 332 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: is what I mean. If you visit the town today, Casino, 333 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: you won't find a single building there that predates this battle. 334 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: Why because we blew them all up with artillery, mainly 335 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: with our air power. Air power is famously, famously inaccurate. 336 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: It's very difficult to especially in this era, very difficult 337 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: to be accurate. We bombed it to dust, and we 338 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: kept making life more miserable for ourselves, just like we 339 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: did on the mountaintop. We kept like making life more 340 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: miserable because bombing it it's not working. One the Germans 341 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: again we find out the Germans invent this stuff, had 342 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: these huge underground bunkers where they would go when the 343 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: bombing began. So you're blowing up buildings, You're not blowing 344 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: up the Germans. That's one. Obviously we blew them up. Two, 345 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: you're angering the civilian population because you're not only ruining 346 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: your building their buildings, you're killing them. We killed a 347 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: lot of civilians in there. Three, you've just taken you 348 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: know what, let me describe it to you. This way 349 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 1: a road. You're telling you're taking a city. You have troops, 350 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: you have tanks, You have a road. Picture any road 351 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: in your town, buildings on either side. Did I help 352 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: my advance through your town? Or hurt my advance through 353 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: your town? If you're looking down that road and it 354 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: goes from being a road to being mountains of concrete 355 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: and steel. Now the tanks can't get through. Now there 356 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: are more booby traps everywhere, more minds everywhere, and the 357 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: death here in a two day span, we seventeen hundred 358 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: men in just two days. There's so much death here 359 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: that they were just starting to figure out what PTSD was, 360 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: you know, night sweats and all these things. They're starting 361 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: to figure this out. Really in World War Two, the 362 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: doctors who were studying PTSD back in mental hospitals, we're 363 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: going to the front line to see the troops here, 364 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: and they found whole units with PTSD, every guy up there, 365 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: every single part. You just exists in this living hell 366 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: and you have it. And it was a nightmare at 367 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 1: night during the day, and the Germans are dying and 368 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: we're dying. And snipers cause it's a sniper paradise. When 369 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: you have that kind of rubble, they can hide everywhere, 370 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: and like I already said, booby traps and minds, just 371 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: staggering losses. And the Germans are becoming more and more emboldened. 372 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: You see, we look at everything understandably so from an 373 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: American perspective. Well, the Germans, remember every German in World 374 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: War Two wasn't some card carrying Nazi. They all loved 375 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: their country, their families back home, loved their son off 376 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: to war. You know that. You know what I'm talking about, 377 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: that national national pride, patriotism thing. The Germans in Casino 378 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: are becoming legends back in Germany and they're they're finding 379 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: out about it, like they're they're becoming propaganda pieces that 380 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: they're spreading around to the other German units. If you 381 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: fight like these guys, we can still win the war. 382 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: And it's just terrible. And we've tried not one, not two, 383 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: but three all out assaults, three different battles, and they've 384 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: all failed. We're losing down here. Finally we decide to 385 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: give it a fourth try, and we do a couple 386 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: different things here. One, we do a war coordinated, more 387 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: accurate artillery barrage, trying to blow them out too. And 388 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: there were a bunch of people. There were Indian Gurkhas 389 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: and British troops and American troops, and there were troops 390 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: in North Africa. There were even French troops. Here. We 391 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: brought in somebody else, and we're gonna pause on this 392 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: for a moment. We brought in some Poles. And I 393 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: know what you're thinking, what Poles Poland's gone at this point, 394 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: And you're right. You remember Hitler and Stalin at the 395 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: beginning of the war agreed to split up Poland and 396 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: they just spit roasted it. And I don't have to 397 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: describe for you what happened on the German side of Poland. 398 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: You know that. But remember Stalin was just as bad 399 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: a guy as Hitler. Stalin immediately began committing atrocities against 400 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: those people. I did a show one time on the 401 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: biggest murder of all time, most people killed by like 402 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: a single hand, and I forget his name. I think 403 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: he was known as the Butcher, and he was the 404 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: one executing all these Polish guys. But either, long story short, 405 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: when Stalin took over, he took the officers, he took 406 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: the military guys in the British Army, and he promptly 407 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: executed them all and then he buried them in mass 408 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: graves and blamed it on the Nazis. But there were 409 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: still Polish troops out there, still Polish troops out there, 410 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: and still a lot of Poles out there who loved 411 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: their country and wanted their country back and hated the Germans. 412 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: And this is something else we're gonna talk about for 413 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: a second. Americans, even at the beginning of the war, 414 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: did not have a natural hatred for Germans. There was 415 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: a ton of German immigration into America. There were there 416 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: was German blood all over the American troops. Germany was 417 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: not poorly thought of, even though we'd fought a war 418 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: against them. They just they weren't. They were highly trained. 419 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: We bought German stuff that we didn't naturally hate the Germans. 420 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: We naturally hated the Japanese because of the barbaric way 421 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: they conducted themselves in World War Two. They said, you 422 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: never had to convince an American to kill a Japanese soldier. 423 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: There was You didn't have to talk him into it. 424 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: He wanted to kill them all. We didn't hate the 425 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: Germans like that yet. We hadn't discovered concentration camps yet. 426 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: We hadn't We didn't know these things yet. The Poles 427 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: had no such problem. The Poles came down and promptly 428 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: told everybody, these guys are evil. You cannot imagine the 429 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: things these guys are doing. We sent, we trained in 430 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: and sent a bunch of Polish troops there because we 431 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: talked Stalin into letting them out of the gulags. Stalin 432 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: had executed a bunch of them and sent a bunch 433 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: to the Gulags, but we negotiated their release, got a 434 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: bunch of Polish troops there, and finally, on the fourth 435 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: and final battle, we finally won. We finally saw victory 436 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: in Monte Cassino. And here's the sad part of it. 437 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: Though not every story is a happy ending, that sad 438 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: part of it was most people think the entire thing 439 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: was completely unnecessary, and the entire front and the thing, 440 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: the things these men did to this day mostly forgotten, 441 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: and we destroyed so much history. And I think about 442 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: this sometimes when I think about our politics now, and 443 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: how how truly truly ugly, the future of it is 444 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: going to be way uglier than anything you've ever seen 445 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: before in America. It's just politics is about to get really, 446 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: really vicious, really ugly. I'm looking at a headline here 447 00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: from CNBC Democrats to target irs in probe of tax 448 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: exempt pro Trump groups that organize the rally before the 449 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: Capitol riot, and I mean, the things they're doing right now. 450 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: It has me thinking about something and I can't get 451 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: it off my mind. Hang on, I'll explain. Oh God on, 452 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: Nat him on inside of me, says Jesse Kelly. Don't 453 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: listening to the Jesse Kelly Show. No word in the 454 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: English language is less convincing than probably. Are you sure 455 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: we should get matching tattoos on our first Nat? Sure? 456 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: And we'll probably stay together. Probably. It's been twenty three 457 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: minutes since I ate. I can probably swim. You should 458 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: wait thirty minutes, okay, don't tell me what to do. 459 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: Cand b cramp, Oh, I have a cramp. I can 460 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: probably hit the green from here? Probably can I get 461 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: a Mulligan ready to go? Hey? Are you sure you're 462 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: okay to drive? Yeah? I'm pretty sober. Yeah, I'm probably okay. 463 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: Probably okay isn't okay, especially when it comes to drinking 464 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: and driving. If you're drinking, call a cab, a car, 465 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: or a friend. Buzz driving is drunk driving. A message 466 00:33:49,440 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: brought to you by NITZA and AD Council. Surprised they're 467 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: pushing forward with this extra surveillance on would be domestic terror. 468 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: It's so dangerous, you know, as you guys have been 469 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: talking about, this is an issue that all Democrats, Republicans, independents, 470 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: libertarians should be extremely concerned about, especially because we don't 471 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: have to guess about where this goes or how this 472 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: ends when you have people like former CIA director John 473 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 1: Brennan openly talking about how he's spoken with or heard 474 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: from appointees and nominees in the Biden administration who already 475 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: starting to look across our country for these types of movements. 476 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: Similar to the insurgencies they've seen overseas that in his words, 477 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: he says, make up this unholy alliance of religious extremists, racists, bigots. 478 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: He lists a few others and adds at the end 479 00:34:55,160 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: even libertarians. So when you look at their and they 480 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: start looking at okay, how do what characteristics are we 481 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: looking for as we're building this profile of a potential extremist? 482 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: What are we talking about religious extremists? Are we talking 483 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: about Christians? Evangelical Christians? Is what is a religious extremist? 484 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 1: Is it somebody who's pro life? I mean, what where 485 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: where do you take this? You start looking at okay, well, 486 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: obviously you have to be a white person, obviously likely 487 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: male libertarians. Well if anybody who loves freedom, liberty, maybe 488 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: has an American flag outside their house, or people who 489 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: you know attended a Trump rally. Once you start walking 490 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: this down the path, you see where it leads to 491 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: a very dangerous undermining of our civil liberties, our freedoms 492 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: in our constitution, and a targeting of almost half of 493 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: the country. M that is wait a minute, Democrat, tell 494 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: Us Gabbard, we need to get Hans Fienni back on 495 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: the show. You remember We've had him on a couple times. 496 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: He's a writer for The Federalist. He's the one who 497 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 1: predicted like six months ago that Tulsey Gabert was going 498 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: to be the Republican nominee for president and I caught 499 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: I had him on the show and made fun of him. Dang. 500 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: You can find me on social media at Jesse Kelly 501 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: DC on Twitter, Instagram, I'm on Facebook. I'm starting at 502 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: locals account or I'll give you keep you updated on that. 503 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: The whole show's podcasted on iHeart, Google, Spotify, and iTunes. 504 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: You can call eight seven seven three seven seven four 505 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: three seven three Jesse at Jesse Kelly show dot com. 506 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: Don't forget. It's Medal of Honor Monday, and we have 507 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: a really cool one and maybe an applicable one today. Hint, hint, 508 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: wink wink. Not gonna give it away. You know what 509 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: that's called, right there, Chris, That's called foreshadowing. What is 510 00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: that not? It's pretty close to foreshadowing. Shut up, Chris, anyway. 511 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: Democrats to target irs in probe of tax exempt pro 512 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: Trump groups. You heard what Tulsey Gabbard was talking about. 513 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: I am bummed out a little bit today I'm not 514 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,439 Speaker 1: going to drag you down. I told you I won't 515 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 1: ever try to do that. The things we're going to 516 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: see from the left now, as they get more and 517 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: more aggressive to crush and purge the right, it's going 518 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: to be ugly. And what is that going to prompt? Well, 519 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: it's going to a prompt ugly from our side. And look, 520 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 1: I'm guilty of wanting it now, a feeling that gets necessary. 521 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: We had what is that congressman's name, Marjorie Green Taylor 522 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: or Marjorie Taylor Green, some freshman congress someone I don't 523 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: know her, I don't know anything about her, but talked 524 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: about introducing articles of impeachment already for Joe Biden. And 525 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 1: people are outraged and screaming about it. Now, that's so stupid. 526 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: I defend it. And here's why the Democrats have chosen 527 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: to use something as ugly and serious as impeachment as 528 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: a political weapon for any president they don't like. They 529 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: just impeach Trump twice. We must, in turn do the 530 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: same thing in order to water down impeachment so much 531 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: that they won't use it as a weapon the next time. 532 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 1: Does that make sense if we only allow them to 533 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: use it as a weapon, and we never use it 534 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 1: as a weapon, then they'll keep doing it. But if 535 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: we visit it back on them, one they may learn 536 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: a lesson. But two, the next time the word impeachment 537 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: comes up, everyone just rolls their eyes because they know 538 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: it's just a gigantic partisan political game. So I think 539 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: we should impeach them. It's it's stupid, of course, it's stupid, 540 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: going to work. No, we should do it, though, to 541 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: water down the process, to disarm the enemy. But remember 542 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: I said, I'm bummed. Remember we were talking about the 543 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: bombing of Monte Casino and things like that. I don't 544 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: like how our country looks at the end of all that. 545 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: I don't know another way. That's why I've always talked 546 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: about national divorce because I don't want this. I don't 547 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: want this kind of ugliness. But if Democrats are going 548 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: to use the IRS now to target the right, I 549 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 1: know it's wrong and it's terrible and it's Stasi level stuff. 550 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: When we take over, we should use the IRS to 551 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: target the left, and I hate that. I don't want 552 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 1: anybody targeted, not the right, not the left, nobody, no one. 553 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: I want to stay living in the land of the free. 554 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: But what we cannot do is take our desire for 555 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,280 Speaker 1: peace and to be left alone and quiet. We cannot 556 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: take that desire and used it to allow them to 557 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: be the only ones hitting. We must hit two or 558 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: we will lose. I promise you we cannot quiet our 559 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: way to victory. Hang on, I'm not done. On the 560 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: Jordan Harbinger Show, You'll hear amazing stories from people that 561 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: have lived them, from spies to CEOs, even an undercover 562 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: agent who infiltrated the Gambino crime family. You're about to 563 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: hear a preview of the Jordan Harbinger Show with Jack Garcia, 564 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: who did just that. My career was twenty four out 565 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: of twenty six years was solely dedicated working on the cover. 566 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: I walk in. I'm in the bar. How there's a 567 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: bar made? Dare good looking? Young lady? See serving me? Joey, Hey, 568 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 1: what would you like? I usually my frank was give 569 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: me a kettle, one martini, three olives, class of water 570 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: on the side. I finished the drank. The guy's man, 571 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go go in my pocket, take out the 572 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: big wad of money. Hey, am I give her one 573 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: hundred hours If you're with the mob, I say, hey, Jordan, 574 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: you're on record with us. That means we protect you. 575 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,919 Speaker 1: Nobody could shake you down. We could shake you down. Oh, 576 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,479 Speaker 1: you're on record with us. For more on how Jack 577 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: became so trusted in the highest levels of the Gambino organization, 578 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: check out episode three ninety two of The Jordan Harbinger Show.