WEBVTT - ‘The Bachelorette’s’ Ivan Stops By

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to another week of Happy Hour with the

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<v Speaker 1>two of Us and Rachel. This week, I have to say,

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<v Speaker 1>it's finally, finally, finally, it felt like a real typical

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor episode with a start and a finish for once,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what we have been asking for, and so

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<v Speaker 1>in that regard, I am thrilled, and it was cute,

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<v Speaker 1>it was your typical hometown dates. I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>into it because we have an incredible guest joining us today,

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<v Speaker 1>probably one of the most requested men that we've had

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<v Speaker 1>that we've seen this season that we're going to have on,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is mister Ivan himself, and I've been dying

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to him since that one on one date

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<v Speaker 1>that he had not tastious. So I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>have him on, to pick his brain, to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>his family and the incredible impact that he has made

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<v Speaker 1>so far on this season and in I would say

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor franchise as a whole. Yeah, I mean, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you more. It's interesting. I didn't even think

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that we had a traditional episode from

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<v Speaker 1>start to finish until you just said that, and I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, you're right, and we're finally there, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hometown week is usually not eventful, do you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Like you have your few exceptions,

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<v Speaker 1>like on my season meeting Dean's family and his and

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<v Speaker 1>like he didn't have those traditional family and there's been

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<v Speaker 1>so many issues, you know, after the death of his

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<v Speaker 1>mother that he's been trying to deal with, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was just a lot there and you probably will never

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<v Speaker 1>see a hometown like that again. So this was what

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<v Speaker 1>I expected it to be, straightforward, not for us, it's

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<v Speaker 1>for Tasia. It's a chance for Tasia to get to

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<v Speaker 1>know these men on another level, to better understand where

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<v Speaker 1>she wants to move forward in this journey, and also

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<v Speaker 1>for the families to get to know Tasia. Who was

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite hometown? My favorite hometown? Well, I'm gonna give it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you two parts because because what I

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<v Speaker 1>found interesting for this was like they obviously could not

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<v Speaker 1>leave the resort, so the men had to bring hometowns

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<v Speaker 1>to Lakinta, which that in itself is interesting and also

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<v Speaker 1>like I could have probably done without that part. I

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<v Speaker 1>would have rather had and just putting myself back into contestant.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, rather had just a full day with the

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<v Speaker 1>family as opposed to like trying to recreate this fake

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<v Speaker 1>city hometown vibe at this hottest balls resort. If I

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<v Speaker 1>will say that, so I guess, like when I say

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<v Speaker 1>two parts my favorite, like, actually, I shouldn't even split

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<v Speaker 1>it up. It was just Ivan. I was trying to think.

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to say Zach's like cheesy, funny New

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<v Speaker 1>York date, just because I love cheesy, but like, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>if I was Taitia, I probably would have loved Ivan's

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<v Speaker 1>date from start to finish the best. And you're laughing

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<v Speaker 1>at me right now, and I know probably what you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna slide. Why are you Why do you think I'm laughing?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you laughing at the cheesy New York date? Yes? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it was at that moment when I saw the taxi

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<v Speaker 1>cabs that I said, a cab, I said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the first time I feel sorry that Tatia's

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<v Speaker 1>doing her entire season at looking that I never have.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been appreciating the depth in the conversations. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>appreciating the fact that there aren't distractions, that these dates

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<v Speaker 1>have been very real life, and she can get a

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<v Speaker 1>better feel of what it is to be with these

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<v Speaker 1>men and what's the bubble is gone? But I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>my god, when they picked up that box bar, I

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<v Speaker 1>took fifty feet, stept fifty feet over to the bagel

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<v Speaker 1>stand sir, Oh God. I feel so sorry for Tatio.

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<v Speaker 1>But you gotta love Zack's enthusiasm when haling the cab.

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<v Speaker 1>He I mean it was it was cute, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>shout out. So the producers were really trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>something out of nothing. But I felt so bad for her.

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<v Speaker 1>There is something special about because behind the scenes, you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes talk. What's so great is when you're

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<v Speaker 1>the lead. You're the one planning the dates and announcing

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<v Speaker 1>the dates and leading the person to where they go

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<v Speaker 1>and what's next. You know what's ahead before they do.

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<v Speaker 1>But when it comes to hometowns, the lead is in

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<v Speaker 1>the dark, and the lead really gets to follow what

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<v Speaker 1>that person is doing because it's they're showing you their hometown,

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<v Speaker 1>their family, how they navigate their life away from the cameras.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a really special moment and Tastia and get

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<v Speaker 1>that with these men because they were still at Lakita

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<v Speaker 1>Tai's like I can see my room from over there

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<v Speaker 1>while I'm holding up this box text. She was definitely

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<v Speaker 1>robbed in the experience. And I think when I was

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<v Speaker 1>on Hometowns, one of my favorite parts was again behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes, but like when we would just be driving

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<v Speaker 1>in the cargo and from place to place and you

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<v Speaker 1>can be with that person and they can point out, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my school er, that's where I used to go

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<v Speaker 1>grocery shopman, that's where this happened. And to see those

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<v Speaker 1>little special moments to really get a feel for who

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<v Speaker 1>somebody is and how they grew up as special and

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<v Speaker 1>she was robbed of it. And that's why I say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish you would have just had the full day

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<v Speaker 1>to spend with the families to like really be able

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<v Speaker 1>to interact like fully with them. I'll they step up

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<v Speaker 1>the game. I don't want to see it. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>will agree with you, though. My favorite hometown was Ivan's.

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<v Speaker 1>From his parents to the well, the cooking, to the parents,

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<v Speaker 1>to the brother, to Ivan's reaction, I just loved it all.

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<v Speaker 1>A close second, though, are the Clarks, because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>zach See kept saying. You constantly referred to his family

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<v Speaker 1>as the Clarks. Tatius meeting the Clarks and liked it. Yeah, yes, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I like, I'm just I just love people.

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<v Speaker 1>So I love like seeing It's so different when the

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<v Speaker 1>contestants are actually in front of their brothers and sisters

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<v Speaker 1>and nieces and nephews and parents, and so that's special

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<v Speaker 1>to see. Yeah, Like nothing major major stood out really

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<v Speaker 1>in like any of the conversations. To me, it was

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<v Speaker 1>again your standard like getting to know the family. We

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<v Speaker 1>do start to see a little foreshadowing. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>though with some of the guys, Like I noticed right

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<v Speaker 1>away with Brendan, he's very in his head and he

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<v Speaker 1>makes multiple comments about like I don't know if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>quite there yet writing to propose, like I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I want to do this again. And it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because I watched Santasia with him and see her body

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<v Speaker 1>language and how she interacts and like she is so

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<v Speaker 1>into him. Did you notice that, Like I haven't, you

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<v Speaker 1>know every want to talk about Zack. See, I see Brendan.

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<v Speaker 1>She is everything from her body language to how her

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<v Speaker 1>face lights up. She is enamored with Brendan. That's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. And I think thank god his hometown

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<v Speaker 1>was first to kind of like get it out of

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<v Speaker 1>the way because I feel like if it would have

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<v Speaker 1>been the last one, that's all people would have been

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<v Speaker 1>fixated on. I think, yeah, I have an issue with

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<v Speaker 1>Brendan's that type of person that's on this show. I

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<v Speaker 1>am over the person who gets to this point and

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<v Speaker 1>is like I'm not ready, Like I am so sick

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<v Speaker 1>of that narrative. Why are you on the show? We

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<v Speaker 1>all know how this ship is, right, Like, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what happens in this show. So for you to pull

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<v Speaker 1>out the car taking the spot of a Riley who

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<v Speaker 1>would have done anything to get a hometown, dare say

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<v Speaker 1>it even a blake am people who really wanted that spot.

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<v Speaker 1>And here you are saying bringing up things that you

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<v Speaker 1>knew from the first day, right, you knew you were married,

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<v Speaker 1>you before you knew you had certain reservations. You knew

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<v Speaker 1>that this was another level for you because you've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>down on one knee and you don't want to rush

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<v Speaker 1>the process. Sir, Why the hell are you on the Bachelor?

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<v Speaker 1>It's all rushed, you know what I mean? Like when

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<v Speaker 1>I see people like that, I am questioning you. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't see Brendan any other way other than this is

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity for him. You aren't serious about this, You're

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<v Speaker 1>wastingatious time. Yeah. Yeah, it makes me think like did

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<v Speaker 1>you come on just wanting clout and some sort of fame,

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<v Speaker 1>or did you come on like truly being open and

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<v Speaker 1>not thinking you were going to potentially follow this hard

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<v Speaker 1>and fast for somebody. But yeah, at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, like, hello, news flash, anyone signing up to

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<v Speaker 1>be a contestant on the show, like the goal is

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<v Speaker 1>to getting to the lead, Like that is no excuses enough? No, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing is. Nothing works. The fact that she's having a

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<v Speaker 1>fantasy suite. You knew that was going to happen. The

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you're surprised at how quickly you fell, that's

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<v Speaker 1>always a possibility. There is no excuse for it. You

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<v Speaker 1>cannot change my mind then, other than you got as

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<v Speaker 1>far as you wanted to get. And now you're using

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<v Speaker 1>this as an excuse. It's been done before, fellas if

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<v Speaker 1>you're coming on the show for cloud, use a different

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<v Speaker 1>excuse that we see it. Yeah, I'm over it. I

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<v Speaker 1>can I ask you a question? Yeah, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that our two favorite hometowns were the ones where the

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<v Speaker 1>parents came? Um, we didn't, Ben and Brendan did their

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<v Speaker 1>parents didn't come. Do you think that that played into

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<v Speaker 1>tatious decisions? Because I thought that was I know COVID's happening,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know certain people have reservations, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>my dad didn't show up on camera, but he still

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<v Speaker 1>was there right like he was, He still met all

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<v Speaker 1>the men. I just was like, I wonder how she

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<v Speaker 1>feels about it because Ben explained it. I don't remember

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<v Speaker 1>hearing from Brendan if he explained it. Yeah, And no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember hearing from Brendan either. I think, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean maybe, and and at least for me, I would

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<v Speaker 1>I think need to meet somebody's parents before potentially getting engaged.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just like because like when you potentially marry somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>you're marrying that family. And so yeah, maybe, And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping there's like parts that we missed. I'm not sure. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta get into Ben though, because very on brand

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<v Speaker 1>with him this entire season. Ben's timing is so terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we see him not have his parents, but

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<v Speaker 1>he has his sister, which he's talked at length about

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<v Speaker 1>how she's the most important in his life. I get

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<v Speaker 1>that the family friend shout out to what was her

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<v Speaker 1>name Antonio, Antonia Rachel. She's a great chef in La

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<v Speaker 1>side note she owns several or is the head chef

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<v Speaker 1>several restaurants. But we gotta go when restaurants off because

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<v Speaker 1>I've ended two of them and her food is impeccable

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<v Speaker 1>and she's a family friend of his. What what's her restaurant?

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<v Speaker 1>Her restaurant she has Scopa in Venice and she does

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<v Speaker 1>Scopa and then but if you love Scope, this other

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<v Speaker 1>one that I went to before things shut down, it's

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<v Speaker 1>called Black Market Liquor Bar, and their food is like

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<v Speaker 1>I had to be dragged out of there. I ordered

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<v Speaker 1>way too much. Everything was incredible, So shout out to Antonia.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I think, like me takeaway with that is

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<v Speaker 1>that Ben I have a real issue with the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he needed somebody else to tell him that he

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<v Speaker 1>was in love. Like, I don't understand if you're like

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<v Speaker 1>you are a grown man, you are what's thirty and

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't come to that conclusion on your own. It

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<v Speaker 1>was tough for me to watch him having to have

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation with somebody else to be like, honey, you're

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<v Speaker 1>in love, and then he like has this like light

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<v Speaker 1>bulb go off like this epiphany moment where I'm like, what,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you don't even tell he's because he wasn't in love. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's at least how I felt about it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we see him, of course like not tell

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<v Speaker 1>her and get too nervous by the emotion in the

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<v Speaker 1>whirlwind that is going on in his head in his heart,

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<v Speaker 1>and then poor Bendon goes home. Yeah. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he thought he was going home. He did seem utterly

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<v Speaker 1>shocked when she was saying that she wanted more from

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<v Speaker 1>him and she was surprised at the way it went.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he couldn't grasp the fact that he was

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<v Speaker 1>going home. He wasn't heartless or cold. He was in shock.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I felt about it. He thought he had

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<v Speaker 1>more time for whatever reason, to say whatever or maybe not. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I find it interesting because when we did have him

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast, he would talk about how he was

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<v Speaker 1>so thoughtful about every single thing he did. But you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't be thoughtful about the love that you felt like

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't grasp that you could or was that part

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<v Speaker 1>of like was that calculated? Was that plan? I just

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<v Speaker 1>keep going back to the way that he was on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. So I'm shocked that this is how it

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<v Speaker 1>ended for him because it seems to such a stark

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<v Speaker 1>contrast to the persona that was on the podcast versus

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<v Speaker 1>how he was on the show. Something doesn't add up

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<v Speaker 1>with him, As my father says, the ends don't match up. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe him. That's what it is. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe you. Yeah, yeah, I And that's like something with like,

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<v Speaker 1>out of the four remaining guys, he's obviously been the

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<v Speaker 1>one that has always kind of been off in timing

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<v Speaker 1>and emotions and like being able to verbalize. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's hard for me as a viewer, I can

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<v Speaker 1>only imagine how hard it would have been Tatia. It

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<v Speaker 1>would be like pulling teeth trying to get any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like emotion or feeling or anything out of him.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get it, Like I rightfully, so after watching

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<v Speaker 1>all of this, like I understand why he was the

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<v Speaker 1>one to not get throws that night. He does just

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<v Speaker 1>enough to stay by, He does just enough, he gives her.

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<v Speaker 1>He he reminds me, he reminds me of Peter Cross

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<v Speaker 1>in the sense that I'm saying this in the sense

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<v Speaker 1>of he reminds me of him in the way that

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<v Speaker 1>like he gives you just enough, but if you really

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<v Speaker 1>break down what he's saying, it doesn't match up like

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<v Speaker 1>something is. And so it's like you have like a

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe you, like I'm into you, I like you,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel it, but there's something that I can't explain

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<v Speaker 1>that's not adding up here. Let me ask you this,

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think I don't own where this just enough

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<v Speaker 1>you just enough to hang on? But do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that's because he has this notion of being a potential

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<v Speaker 1>bachelor one day in the background been one thousand percent

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be the bachelor. And that's why that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I think he kind of knows how to play and

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<v Speaker 1>not that it's a game like kind of how to

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<v Speaker 1>play it to give us enough, to open up, just enough,

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<v Speaker 1>but to not like fully commit to this relationship that you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, say you're in love. Yeah, And I beg of,

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<v Speaker 1>I beg producers, please don't do it. We've been here

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<v Speaker 1>before with the person who is so desperate to be

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<v Speaker 1>the lead. It never works out when they want it

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<v Speaker 1>so badly, when they've been planning for it, calculated, made

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<v Speaker 1>certain moves to get to that point, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>give it to them. It always messes up. There were

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<v Speaker 1>so many grave men from the Claire slash Tatious season.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't pick him. I don't want to see it. I

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<v Speaker 1>stand by it. Yeah. Well, and if not that we've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten into Matt James this season, but we know this

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<v Speaker 1>whole narrative that he's never been in love and we

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<v Speaker 1>need somebody who, like I want to lead, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like Claire, who knows what she wants, who's not ready

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<v Speaker 1>to settle, who doesn't put up with any bullshit, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>beat her on the bus. She's straightforward and she goes

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<v Speaker 1>for what she wants. And so that's what I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to see in my leads from here on out. Just

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<v Speaker 1>putting it out there right now, please and thank you producers,

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<v Speaker 1>Eat and Tasha. Can I just say I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get Tasia a big compliment and how she navigated these hometowns.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was Zach who talked about how at

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<v Speaker 1>East she was she was so confident and warm with

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<v Speaker 1>every family she fit right in. I just that's not

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<v Speaker 1>easy to do. So I just want to give kudos

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<v Speaker 1>to her for how well she did, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>that's that she had to try at it. She was

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<v Speaker 1>a natural, but it was it was nice to see. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, no, she handled it beautifully. It's as and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure anyone who has been on the dating scene

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<v Speaker 1>and has met a family at some point it's nerve

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<v Speaker 1>racking and to do that four times in less than

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<v Speaker 1>a week, it's it's not easy. And she, yes, she

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<v Speaker 1>navigated it wonderfully, So kudos to you, miss Titia. And

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<v Speaker 1>with that, as much as we can keep going and talking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know us, you can't. Once you start, we can't stop.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is time to have on our amazing guest

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<v Speaker 1>today because we have been waiting patiently to get him

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<v Speaker 1>on all season, and I know all of you listening

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<v Speaker 1>to have too, So we're super excited to be sitting

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<v Speaker 1>down today with the one and only Ivan. Who are

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<v Speaker 1>you ready? Ivan? I am ready? Okay, okay. I always

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask you guys if you're nervous to podcast

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<v Speaker 1>with us. I'm very nervous right now. No, No, I'm fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like back on the show, I got into

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<v Speaker 1>a groove of like interviewing all the time, and I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't done that in three months now, so it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I'll be fine here. We're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>produce or interview you, so don't worry. Yeah, we far

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<v Speaker 1>this thing from it. We'll probably say something we're not

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to say. This is like a conversation between friends,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why we're like, if you want to grab

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<v Speaker 1>a drink, I'm sure, if you drink, If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to lie, oh wait, we're in Califori. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to light it up, okay, take a sip,

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<v Speaker 1>sit back, enjoy all of this because what's so great

0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:14.840
<v Speaker 1>about what we get to do is we get to

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<v Speaker 1>go in depth about burning questions people have about you,

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<v Speaker 1>about your time on the show, about your opinions on

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<v Speaker 1>the other men in the house, about your relationship with Tasia.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many questions Ivan. You're obviously a fan favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. Yes, welcome, and you've been

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most requested men that we've been asked

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<v Speaker 1>to have, so we are thrilled to be having you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we want to get into it. We have

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<v Speaker 1>so much to ask you, but first, yes, like to

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<v Speaker 1>play off of Rachel. How have you been, how are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing now that we're kind of back in quarantine

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<v Speaker 1>and you just were what was that this crazy world

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<v Speaker 1>end of a journey? Not Dallas. Dallas is not in

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<v Speaker 1>quarantine out there? Oh no, oh yeah, everything definitely yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>very different from La out here for sure. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been really good. I got back into my regular routine.

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<v Speaker 1>Took a little trip with my brothers last week. That

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<v Speaker 1>was fun. And everything's back to normal now for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part. You know, it's uh, the anxieties kind of building.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, like, you know, things progress with the show.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, it's been fun. I've enjoyed everything. How is

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<v Speaker 1>watching it back with your friends or your family is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it weird? Is it strange? Is it enjoyable? It's

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<v Speaker 1>extremely weird. Like the first episode, I watched episode one

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<v Speaker 1>with Claire, I watched it by myself. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't, I can't watch with any of you guys, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna stress me out. And it was already stressful

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<v Speaker 1>enough for just me by myself, to be honest. But

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<v Speaker 1>as time progress, it's been fun. I went back to

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<v Speaker 1>my parents' house a couple of times and watched with them,

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<v Speaker 1>and watched with a couple of friends last night actually,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, it's been fun. It's enjoyable, though, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they always have a ton of questions and I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I had the time of my life out there. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas is a hot spot for the Bachelor? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>know anybody? Okay? So then that's another that I literally

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<v Speaker 1>got this in my interview. They were like, well, Dallas

0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.080
<v Speaker 1>is a hot spot, you know because Jojo had just

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<v Speaker 1>been before me as the bachelorette. True and this is

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<v Speaker 1>when I was just coming on as a contestant, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, do you know anybody? Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever met any of the people show? And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't even watch the show, so I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't tell you, you know, like either or My question

0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:30.920
<v Speaker 1>for you Ivan is how does an aeronautical engineer wind

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<v Speaker 1>up on The Bachelor? I don't know if we've ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen it before, and I'm sure we'll never see it again.

0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:40.840
<v Speaker 1>We'll see um. Well, for me, it was it was interesting.

0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.040
<v Speaker 1>The show reached out to me via you know, social media,

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<v Speaker 1>a DM, and I was like, is this real or whatever?

0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:48.879
<v Speaker 1>And then I had to go Google and check to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure it's a real person and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and one thing led to another and I'm on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's once I started getting into the process. To be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I feel like I'm gonna be on here.

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<v Speaker 1>I told my parents it's like a pretty high percent

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<v Speaker 1>chance that I'm gonna be on this show. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of crazy, but you know, it's a once

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<v Speaker 1>in a lifetime opportunity, honestly to meet somebody amazing potentially

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<v Speaker 1>and then also be able to do so many amazing things,

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<v Speaker 1>especially during this quarantine time. So I jumped right at it.

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<v Speaker 1>And luckily my job is extremely flexible, flexible, and my

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<v Speaker 1>manager is amazing, so I got to take all the

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<v Speaker 1>time off that I needed and it's been awesome. It's

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I guess I ended up here. I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I don't. I'm not the typical I guess engineer,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say as well, like I like to do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different things. I'm not as nerdy as

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<v Speaker 1>I guess most people would think an engineer is. So yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I consider myself, you know, pretty spontaneous too. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I did it, though, for sure, did you

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<v Speaker 1>watch the show before going on? So? Um, I've seen

0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:51.960
<v Speaker 1>like episodes before. I know Rachel's season was actually the

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<v Speaker 1>first one. I know, I've seen like a few episodes

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<v Speaker 1>of I know I didn't watch the whole thing, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say I probably watched some episodes with

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<v Speaker 1>my mom back in the day and maybe and then

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<v Speaker 1>my girlfriend used to watch it. I never paid attention,

0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:04.760
<v Speaker 1>but once I first got got the first call, I

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<v Speaker 1>started paying attention to a Peter season for sure, just

0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:10.400
<v Speaker 1>to like understand what was going on, Like I need

0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:12.280
<v Speaker 1>one of those people. Yeah, I kind of needed to

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<v Speaker 1>like be prepared a little bit to see like what

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<v Speaker 1>was going to happen before I got on the show.

0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:19.200
<v Speaker 1>So I watched Peter season and then I also went

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<v Speaker 1>back and watched Hannah Brown's like first night, just to

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<v Speaker 1>see what the entrances looked like to figure that whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the extent of what

0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I knew about the show. Really. Okay, before we really

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<v Speaker 1>get into I mean, because we have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>questions to ask you about hometowns, because that's obviously what

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<v Speaker 1>we just watched. But yeah, I want to get into

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<v Speaker 1>first because we didn't really see much of you when

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<v Speaker 1>it was still Claire's time on the show. You know,

0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:45.960
<v Speaker 1>you were a little bit more quiet, a little bit

0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:50.760
<v Speaker 1>more reserved. But the second Taitia entered the room and

0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:54.440
<v Speaker 1>was officially announced as your new batchel, right, your energy

0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:58.720
<v Speaker 1>completely switched a complete one eighty. You just like seemed

0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:01.920
<v Speaker 1>to light up for within so and we don't even

0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:04.640
<v Speaker 1>get into like the time prior to that. But um,

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.199
<v Speaker 1>what was it like waiting in the house, not like

0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:09.760
<v Speaker 1>after Claire left, waiting for potentially a new bachelor, not

0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:12.199
<v Speaker 1>knowing what was pointing on, and then meeting Tasia for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time. No, it was it was awesome. It

0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 1>was like a little bit nerve wrecking, um, because we

0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:21.600
<v Speaker 1>just went through what we went through. But um, I

0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:24.240
<v Speaker 1>remember there were probably like a few of the guys

0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:26.320
<v Speaker 1>we thought it was going to turn into Bachelor in Paradise,

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:28.440
<v Speaker 1>to be honest, so we were just excited for whatever.

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 1>But I remember telling, um, a couple I remember telling

0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 1>a couple of guys I was like, you know, it

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:34.880
<v Speaker 1>could be Bachelor Paradise would be great, but honestly, all

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:37.840
<v Speaker 1>it takes is one girl and to be the bachelorette,

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:40.119
<v Speaker 1>and that's going to get me excited too, And uh,

0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 1>that's all it took. And and Tashia arrived and as

0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:44.399
<v Speaker 1>soon as she walked in that door. I know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was the first person to hugger. I was the most

0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:49.879
<v Speaker 1>excited guy in that room that night. Um, Taia's just

0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:52.639
<v Speaker 1>somebody like who. I felt like I kind of already knew. Um,

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we have similar backgrounds and I just knew,

0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:57.359
<v Speaker 1>And I even said it that night. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in here. I'm gonna be here for the long haul.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of guys were kind of

0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:03.680
<v Speaker 1>like taking it back by it all because they all

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 1>had this idea that the rankings of Claire's people was

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:09.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna stay the same with Tasia, and I was like, no,

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:13.440
<v Speaker 1>this is completely different. Good luck to you guys, because

0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm gonna be here for a while. To

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 1>be honest, Oh, I love it. I love the concidence.

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:22.159
<v Speaker 1>So what was it that made you say Tatia and

0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:28.119
<v Speaker 1>I have very similar backgrounds? Well, one thing I guess

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:30.320
<v Speaker 1>that we connected with on our one on one was

0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:33.400
<v Speaker 1>that we're both by racial have black dads, and then

0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:36.240
<v Speaker 1>our moms are actually both you know, immigrants. Her mom's

0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:38.960
<v Speaker 1>from Mexico and my mom's from the Philippines, and we

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:40.959
<v Speaker 1>did speak about that as well, and that was one thing,

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:42.639
<v Speaker 1>another thing we could connect on how we can like

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:45.919
<v Speaker 1>relate to both cultures. And then on top of that,

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 1>she's from Orange County and I'm from a Plano, Texas,

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 1>which is like a really nice area which is probably

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:52.919
<v Speaker 1>a little bit some of the Orange County. And I

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.040
<v Speaker 1>feel like I've met a lot of people like Tasia.

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I would say, so, I felt like I to a

0:24:56.920 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>certain degree, I kind of knew her, And I've dated

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:04.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of different women of all races, all backgrounds

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:07.440
<v Speaker 1>and whatnot. But like I'll say, the majority have been

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:09.840
<v Speaker 1>like kind of in like the Tay Show, realm or

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 1>so so, um so she was your type? Yeah, yeah,

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I would say, she's yeah, she was more of my type.

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I would say, sure, my preference, I guess. Yeah. Well,

0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:20.159
<v Speaker 1>if we couldn't tell from the smile the second she

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:26.879
<v Speaker 1>walked in real quick, Yeah, I'm sorry, no, no no, keep

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 1>going no. Yeah. I actually like had to catch myself

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 1>after one of my interviews that night, and I was like, oh, well,

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:34.879
<v Speaker 1>I need to calm down. I'm a little too excited,

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:38.199
<v Speaker 1>right because it was it was a lot of excitement though,

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>because I was just I was just ready to get

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 1>things going. Well, you were literally loaded. You were like

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:45.160
<v Speaker 1>bouncing in the chair just smiling. I was like, oh,

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 1>he is ready for this one. Um. So taking it

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:50.920
<v Speaker 1>back to your one on one because that's really where

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:55.640
<v Speaker 1>we first obviously got to know you, and the fact

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:57.719
<v Speaker 1>that I love about it is like you guys weren't traveling.

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:01.160
<v Speaker 1>There was no exotic destinations, there was no fancy gimmicks.

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:03.720
<v Speaker 1>It was just like one of the most chill, down

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:06.199
<v Speaker 1>to earth but memorable one on ones that we've ever

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:09.360
<v Speaker 1>ever seen on the show. For however many seasons, it's

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 1>been going on a thousand now basically, and that's I

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:17.160
<v Speaker 1>think based solely on you opening up about your vulnerability

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:20.639
<v Speaker 1>to have these important conversations and to really talk about

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 1>what's not only going on with yourself and in your life,

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 1>in your background, but with the world. And so I

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 1>want to start with the story of your brother. How

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>did you feel being able to share that part of

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:32.880
<v Speaker 1>your life with Taisha? Was it nerve racking? How did

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>it feel after you had this conversation to take us

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 1>back to that night? Yeah, yeah, so that night. Honestly, first,

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 1>just first of all, it started out great, like I

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>love game nights, and I told Tasha that actually in

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 1>one of the earlier cocktail parties, like game nights are

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:51.240
<v Speaker 1>my thing, just hanging out with my friends doing playing

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 1>all types of games, whatever you can think of. Those

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 1>are like my favorite nights, just doing that in drinking

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:58.919
<v Speaker 1>and having a good time. And then for us to

0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:00.480
<v Speaker 1>have that first meant a lot to me because it

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 1>was just so much fun that we could just like

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:05.919
<v Speaker 1>really relax and be ourselves. And then later on, I

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 1>knew I wanted to, uh, you know, share the story

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 1>with my brother because you know, in this short amount

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:16.879
<v Speaker 1>of time, you really have to like explain and show

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:19.479
<v Speaker 1>the person that you truly are. And to do that

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 1>for me, I had to tell the brother of the

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>story of my brother that shaped me in more ways

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>than pretty much anything in my life. So I felt

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 1>like I really needed to do that. It was a

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:31.679
<v Speaker 1>little bit nerve wrecking because I'll tell you, like some

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 1>of my best friends honestly, you don't even know, like

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:35.679
<v Speaker 1>my younger brother was in prison because I keep a

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of that in um. So it was a little

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>bit nerve wrecking, but it was definitely something I wanted

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>to share and I knew I had to share for

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Tasha to really understand kind of who I am a

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:51.919
<v Speaker 1>little bit. Yeah. I mean that conversation was like a

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 1>conversation we've never seen before on the Bachelor franchise, and

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I spoke about it like at great lengths here on

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 1>a Bachelor Happy Hour, and one of the things we

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 1>said was we really appreciated you being vulnerable, which is

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 1>what Becca was talking about, but also just the way

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you were able to speak about the situation because you

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>admitted your own thoughts and how you used to think

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 1>about things, which I thought was very honest because a

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of people can't do that. You said, Oh, I

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 1>used to think of it this way until I had

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 1>somebody close to me who was a part of the system,

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and then I started to see it in a totally

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:37.120
<v Speaker 1>different way. And I thought that was very eye opening

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>and refreshing to see, because not everybody has the power

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>to be able to do that. One of the things

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>that we talked about on the podcast is that we

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>felt like you carried the conversation. It seemed very and Becca,

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I have received a little bit heat from this, but

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 1>it's the true. It's how we felt. I was blown

0:28:56.320 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>away by you. We were by you and your honesty.

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I want to know how you felt in that moment,

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>because obviously we aren't we weren't privy to the entire conversation.

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 1>There was obviously more that was said. How did you

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>feel in that moment? Oh? Man, Um, Yeah, so that

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 1>that Yeah, that moment was great and you know, it

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>just it just came so naturally, honestly for the both

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>of us. But yeah, with me, I I did see

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of hesitation when it came to Titia. And

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>for myself, I know, like throughout my whole life, I've

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 1>always been very introspective and taken a lot of time

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>to think deeply about a lot of topics and do

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 1>research to like form my own opinions on things. And

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, to be honest, not everybody spent has spent

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>that amount of time, I would say. And and my

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>dad's done a good job of like making sure I'm

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>keenly aware of like black issues in America, especially with

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 1>my dad being a little bit older. He's seventy three,

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Like he's lived through a lot of crazy stuff, so

0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>he's told me a lot of stories. So growing up

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I knew a lot of different things and was keenly

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 1>aware of you know, batter and and black issues, especially

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>this year for sure. So no, I just appreciate Atasia

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 1>in that moment for just being open and honest, because

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>that's what I think she was doing. You know, not

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>everybody's gonna be able to just speak at length on

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 1>term on these types of things, or give dissertations on

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>black issues in America and whatnot. And I don't expect

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>everybody too to be honest. But as long as you're

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 1>like aware things are happening and you're being open and

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>honest about the way you view things, then that's all

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I could ask for from her at that moment for sure.

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 1>First of all, I appreciate your father setting the example

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 1>of recognizing the fact that you're biracial, right like I'm

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 1>not biracial, but I will have biracial children and I

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 1>take and I just think it's so admirable that he

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 1>recognized that you do have you come from two different cultures,

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>but always reminding of you of who you are, always

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>reminding you that if you get pulled over when people

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 1>see you, this is what they're going to see first,

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and they may not understand the other side of you.

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that, and I think that it's something that

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you said about you know you appreciated Tasha about being

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>aware of what's going on. I guess I feel like,

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>as a black woman, I need you to be more

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>than aware. And I think this was like kind of

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>the issue in watching it. Would you expect or maybe

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>want more from someone that you're establishing a relationship with.

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Would you want them to be more cognizant of who

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 1>they are when they navigate this world? And maybe you

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 1>can give me a different perspective because I will recognize

0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm black and black, you know you are biracial, and

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 1>so maybe you can give a different perspective of what

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 1>it is to navigate the world as a biracial person

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>that I can't. Yeah, no, you're You're making a great point, right,

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 1>But to be frank and honest, Tasha honestly just grew

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 1>up in a bubble, I feel like, and she's kind

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 1>of you know, and I could kind of see that

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and sense that from her what she's able to do

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>going forward is what matters the most. But kudos to

0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you because you truly did I think carry that conversation

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and I want to go and because you spoke about

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 1>your dad, and I will say this, so after watching Hometowns,

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>with your family and we all talked to well, I

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't say, Rachel and I talked about this before you

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>hopped on about how I was I think one of

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 1>our favorite hometown dates out of this launch. It was

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 1>just the fact that you guys were cooking and drinking

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>wine in the kitchen seemed so down to earth, and

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 1>your family was so beautiful and lovely. When I did

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>write in my notes, your dad kind of reminded me

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 1>of my father. So my dad is also well was

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>he passed away, but he was older, so he was

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 1>actually the same age as your dad. But your father

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like we don't always see this with

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 1>parents on the show because I think they like they're like, oh,

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>we just want our son or daughter to be happy,

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and this is like really cool, unique experience. But your

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:50.719
<v Speaker 1>dad was so realistic and down to earth, and I

0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 1>like that he kind of like kept you grounded when

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>he saw you. That was something really special. So I

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>love that interaction because it just, you know, it gave

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>me all the feels. But the real surprise of your

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 1>hometown date wasn't seeing your parents. It was seem your brother. Yeah,

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and the show doesn't make me cry very often. And

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I was sobbing like a baby watching this moment go down.

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>So what when he walked out, Give me everything you're

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>feeling and thinking when you first saw him again after

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 1>two months. I gotta be honest, Yeah, I was only

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 1>anticipating my parents being there, and you know, that's what

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison told me. And when Chris told me that,

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>my mind, just because I've kind of been trained to

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 1>think this way, it just went to like dark places

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 1>of like something bad happened to my brother because we

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 1>are close and I knew he would be there for

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 1>me if he could. So I was just extremely nervous that,

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, something terrible happened and he ended up back

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 1>in prison or you know, honestly even potentially dead. To

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 1>be honest, that's something we've been dealing with, you know,

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 1>before he was in prison, and during he was in prison,

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>and after, Um he struggles from a lot of mental

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>health issues and like I said, a little bit of

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 1>addiction and depression and all that kind of stuff. So um,

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to work through. So I was just I

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:16.839
<v Speaker 1>was just I was just very nervous, I would say.

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 1>But when he actually showed up there, um, it was

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>just such a such a nice relief I m to

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>be able to actually see him, and you know, there's times, honestly,

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>he's only been at that point, he was only out

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 1>of prison for about a year, and we've had trials

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:35.359
<v Speaker 1>and tribulations even just that year he's been out. But

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 1>that was the first time I've seen him like on

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:41.280
<v Speaker 1>a trip he's been that he's been on a trip

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>or in a different state in in years, like since

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 1>we were little, So it was just it was just

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 1>such a shock to have him there. I'm sure he

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 1>was enjoying his experience there, and he just means the

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:56.839
<v Speaker 1>world to me. I've said this multiple times, but he's

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>the most influential person in my life. He's the person

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>if he was like me, I honestly might be like

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit in the bubble and not be so

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:06.800
<v Speaker 1>open to people who have gone through issues and whatnot.

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 1>So he's just opened my eyes, you know, going to

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>different rehabs with him and participating in sessions and whatnot

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:16.399
<v Speaker 1>and hearing other people's stories, just to be under more

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 1>understanding and less judgmental of everyone in the world, to

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>be honest. So he doesn't take enough credit for that,

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and he'll always say like, I'm just, you know, the

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 1>greatest big brother in the world, but he's the greatest

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>younger brother too, and just by being himself. You guys, Okay,

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 1>you're emotional right now? What is going on your reaction

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.440
<v Speaker 1>when he walks through. I love Tasia's reaction too, because

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 1>you hear the door open it. Tastia just looks at

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 1>you like, oh my gosh, it's happening, and it's like

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't register with you yet. You're like, wait what

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:51.719
<v Speaker 1>And you go from this laugh to this cry, like

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:54.359
<v Speaker 1>you see the emotion change, like I can't believe this

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:56.920
<v Speaker 1>is happening, to oh my gosh, it's happening. Oh I

0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:01.399
<v Speaker 1>have It's everything. I am curious to know because you've

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 1>been so honest about what your brother has gone through.

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>How is your brother right now and how has he

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 1>been knowing that you have been I'm sure you got

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 1>his blessing, but just like you've been talking about like

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the things that he's been through, I just like I

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 1>want to know how he's feeling about it and how's

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 1>he doing now? For sure? Yeah, my brother and I

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 1>are very close. We talk all the time, and he

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>understands that he has helped shape the person I've become

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the day, So he knows I need to be able

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 1>to express that to whoever I want to potentially get

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 1>married to you, because that's how I'm viewing this at

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:35.919
<v Speaker 1>that point. So he I definitely had his blessing for sure.

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 1>And on top of that, my brother and I have

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:40.720
<v Speaker 1>talked about potentially starting like you know, charities and ways

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 1>of giving back because of his experience in prison. Like

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I said on the show, it's when we would go

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 1>visit him, he would tell me some crazy stuff that's

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 1>happening in prison like that nobody else he wouldn't tell

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 1>that to anybody else. My mom would go step away,

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:57.880
<v Speaker 1>or my mom and dad would go step away and

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 1>bring his daughter away. And know, we'd have those intense

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 1>talks where he's like sometimes breaking down and telling me

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:05.719
<v Speaker 1>these things he's actually having to deal with, and I'm

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to coach him through it, but there's not much

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:09.879
<v Speaker 1>you can do through a glass wall. And then when

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I leave, I just feel so helpless. So there's there's

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:17.719
<v Speaker 1>just so much that he's learned going through that experience.

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 1>And and quite frankly, you know, like I said with

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 1>George Floyd, police brutality has been brought to the forefront

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 1>of the society here in America. The thing that me

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 1>and him have both recognized is that, you know, correctional

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 1>officer brutal brutality is not really talked about at all.

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 1>That's a situation where there is nobody in the prison

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:39.839
<v Speaker 1>system or jails who have cameras to record what's going on.

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 1>If you do something, it's completely handled by the correctional officers.

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.479
<v Speaker 1>They get they're the judge, jury, executioner, all that stuff,

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and beside your fate, there's no visibility whatsoever. So without

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:54.399
<v Speaker 1>any visibility, there's there's no way we can like track

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:56.720
<v Speaker 1>what's going on or hold people accountable at all, especially

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 1>with all the third party So those are all major

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>problems we've we've known and have recognized. And you know, prisoners,

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:06.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, majority of them come back to society and

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, to be going through abuse in there, and

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:13.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, honestly, not having the correct rehabilitation type of

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>activities going on in there. It's just not good for

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, America as a whole, honestly. So there's a

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:20.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of changes that I think need to need to happen.

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, this is the like prison capital of the world,

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 1>America is we hold a vast majority of the prisoners

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 1>compared to all the other developed countries, especially the candidate

0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Scandinavian countries. So there's a lot of improvement to be

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:36.840
<v Speaker 1>done there. And with my brother's knowledge from the inside,

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 1>and then like with what I want to do with

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 1>philanthropy going forward and charities and whatnot, we'll definitely want

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:47.239
<v Speaker 1>to make a change in that space. Okay, this is

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>why I love having you guys on the podcast, because

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 1>there is so much that not only we can learn

0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 1>from you, but that all of our listeners can learn

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:58.800
<v Speaker 1>from you. And I guarantee a majority of the listeners

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:03.400
<v Speaker 1>probably have no and I don't want this, like, probably

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 1>have no idea of all the things that are really

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 1>truly going on. And and this is why it's so good,

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:13.240
<v Speaker 1>as you said, to educate yourself and to immerse yourself

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 1>in something that you don't see on a daily basis,

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:21.320
<v Speaker 1>to learn more and grow from and so incredible, incredible. Um.

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 1>One thing I want to touch on switching gears a

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:32.440
<v Speaker 1>little bit. Here is your adorable niece, the adorable name.

0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't we can't not talk about hometowns like the

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 1>what did the best chef Filipino chef was it? But

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 1>you yes, yes, she's she's just had her fifth year

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:51.840
<v Speaker 1>birthday and um, you know, I think she'll really appreciate

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 1>that moment later going for it as she really realizes

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>what actually happened. My mom and uh, Kaylanie's mom are

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 1>very like they do their very hands on and do

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:03.839
<v Speaker 1>everything with her. So the fact that they were able

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 1>to get a video of her cooking lumpia, you know,

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 1>which is something that my mom's cooked for me my

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 1>entire life, really meant a lot to me. And I

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 1>really wanted Kaylanie to be there more than anything. But

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, she couldn't make the trip, but which was

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:18.880
<v Speaker 1>which was fine. That video was enough and that brought

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 1>a giant smile to my face. Kaylanie, you know, she

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:24.879
<v Speaker 1>was born, like I said, I think on the show,

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:26.839
<v Speaker 1>she was born while my brother was in prison, so

0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:29.240
<v Speaker 1>she had her mom there and her mom's great amazing,

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 1>but me and my parents definitely had to step up

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 1>and step into her life. And I always wanted to

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:36.840
<v Speaker 1>make sure she had that like father figure there for

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 1>her as well. And that and I always wanted my

0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 1>brother to know that She's taking care of no matter

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 1>what happens, because I'm always going to take care of

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>her and look at her as my own. So yeah,

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.399
<v Speaker 1>having Kaylani sending that video is the cutest thing ever.

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 1>She's the cutest little girl. She's like the background on

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:55.759
<v Speaker 1>my phone and I love her. If I'm ever feeling down,

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I just have to look at a picture of her

0:40:57.480 --> 0:41:01.719
<v Speaker 1>and I'm good. I'm good to go after that. She's

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 1>so cute. I've been listening to you speak about her.

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:07.799
<v Speaker 1>It just it gives me chills and so special. I

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 1>feel like I have no idea what happens the rest

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 1>of this season after this hometown date. But um, I

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:19.360
<v Speaker 1>feel like you would be ready for kids. I don't know,

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 1>So okay, I'll say yeah, yeah, I'll say this. I Um,

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:31.399
<v Speaker 1>I could definitely handle kids now, but I definitely want

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>to enjoy like traveling and doing something for my partner

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:37.319
<v Speaker 1>first four kids. To be honest, So often do you

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:43.439
<v Speaker 1>see her? Lum? It varies. She lives about three hours

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 1>away right now, so I probably see her once a

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:48.800
<v Speaker 1>month maybe, But before that, she lived at my parents

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:50.759
<v Speaker 1>house with her mom for about a year, so I

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 1>saw her all the time. Then, um, so yeah, it's

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 1>always a treat to see her though, especially now that

0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 1>she's getting her personality. She's always been pretty shy and

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:01.759
<v Speaker 1>now she's finally in the personality. So she's a TV

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 1>star now that's right. Yeah, you um, i'man we We

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 1>we get to see so many great things about you

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:13.719
<v Speaker 1>on the show. And one of the other things is

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:16.640
<v Speaker 1>that you tend to stay out of the drama, like

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you're not involved. There's a lot of drama surrounding you,

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:23.359
<v Speaker 1>especially with the switch of bachelorettes and the men and

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 1>all of this. It's a lot Who were you close

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 1>with in the house? Oh? I was close with a

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of guys, but first and foremost, Damar was probably

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:37.359
<v Speaker 1>my best friend from this show. He uh, we were

0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:40.120
<v Speaker 1>roommates the longest actually, and you know, being a roommate

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:42.439
<v Speaker 1>just allowed us to talk a lot more. And he's

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 1>such like a bala energy and like probably the most

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 1>positive guy in the house, especially as like a spin instructor.

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:52.640
<v Speaker 1>He's got great Energy's got to be positive. Yeah, he's

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 1>the best at telling stories. He could be like a

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 1>narrator honestly, a podcast host or even a DJ. He's

0:42:57.600 --> 0:42:59.839
<v Speaker 1>got great music sense. So I was closest with Damar,

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:01.840
<v Speaker 1>but I was close with a lot of guys. I

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>was really close with um Or still am close with

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Noah Riley, Jordan Chapman, Um, quite a few of the guys,

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Um Spencer, even Um. I know I'm missing a couple,

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, quite a few of the guys I still

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 1>keep in touch with. I'm assuming you're part of the group.

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Chat like, what do you guys callow yourself as the

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:27.359
<v Speaker 1>Sweet sixteen? Did we name it? We named it? Well?

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 1>I think na Kenny that said like the Sweet sixteen

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 1>group probably guys. Yeah, whenever when Claire left, a lot

0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:38.279
<v Speaker 1>of the guys liked named us the Sweet sixteen. And

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:41.799
<v Speaker 1>if you guys were there like listening to us, Um,

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 1>everybody was saying they were gonna get Sweet sixteen tattoos

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 1>and whatnot. And I was over here just being quiet

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 1>because I was like, I don't want a tattoo, but

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 1>everybody was down for it. It was hilarious. But uh,

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it's the Sweet sixteen. Was always so like Kenny.

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Kenny was leading the charge on that,

0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 1>so like, oh he wanted probably everybody imagine the star

0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:02.799
<v Speaker 1>chat is we have the same conversation when I was

0:44:02.840 --> 0:44:05.600
<v Speaker 1>on RA season. Um, I don't remember how many of

0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 1>us were laugh maybe like fourteen. We went to Paris

0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:11.440
<v Speaker 1>and we all thought it would be a good idea

0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:15.880
<v Speaker 1>to get rose tattoos. Thank God we didn't. Thank God,

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:19.319
<v Speaker 1>I think that's been done. I feel like somebody did that.

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:22.520
<v Speaker 1>My group of girls, we were like, it's cool here.

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:24.200
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if I'm really gonna know y'all

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:28.279
<v Speaker 1>like that when and I'm still close to several of them,

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:32.040
<v Speaker 1>but no, absolutely Damar has a rose tattoo though, he's

0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 1>the only one who I think one. Actually he got one.

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Go one's pretty cool too. Tell me it's like a

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:41.080
<v Speaker 1>big one, not like it's like a big one all

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 1>across the Okay, I appreciate that. I appreciate that now

0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:46.799
<v Speaker 1>he committed to it. He committed to can't you see

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:49.319
<v Speaker 1>him though? And like as a spin instructor saying, you know,

0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 1>back at my time when I was in Palm Springs

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 1>at the laking, you just gotta stay focused. You can't,

0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 1>you can't determine. You know, if you ever see the

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 1>spin instructor, I could totally hear the pellets on in

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:00.839
<v Speaker 1>my head. You gotta stay focused. You can't worry about

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 1>these other men that are distracting you. Oh my god,

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:06.799
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. I'm telling you the best that I'm

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 1>sure it's. Yeah. Oh I well, Becca, I'll let you

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 1>ask your final question. Yeah, I think I was done.

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah. Um so, I mean we asked this of

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:20.799
<v Speaker 1>every guest because it's and the answers very greatly. But

0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 1>what was your rose and your thorn of the entire

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 1>season up until this point, up until hometowns? Okay? Um

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:37.480
<v Speaker 1>for what's okay? Okay, okay, I got you? So my thorn,

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I know, my one thorn. Actually, this is my only

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 1>complaint that I have. I don't complain about much, honest

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:44.520
<v Speaker 1>because I was just so grateful for the experience. But

0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the heat there was ridiculous. I'm for sure in Palm

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Springs was ridiculous. I couldn't deal with it. It's like

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:52.839
<v Speaker 1>if we go outside and shoot for a little bit

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:56.879
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sweating like crazy. Eventually I started to learn like, hey,

0:45:56.880 --> 0:45:59.240
<v Speaker 1>I need to always carry its howel because this is ridiculous.

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I just gotta wipe off all the time. Um So

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 1>that sucked, to be honest, but U but either way,

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to come off as like I'm complaining

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 1>because I was just very thankful to be there. Um.

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:14.839
<v Speaker 1>The rose m up to that point. Yeah, I guess

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:17.239
<v Speaker 1>it's just got to be the family, the hometown. The

0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:19.800
<v Speaker 1>hometown's got to be That just had so many different elements.

0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 1>The fact I got to share, like, you know, my

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Filipino culture, Woultasia and just cook some lumpia that was

0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:27.680
<v Speaker 1>awesome for me. Um with Kailani coaching us through that.

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 1>UM and then and then the fact my mom, my brother,

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 1>and my dad were able to show up that like

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:35.439
<v Speaker 1>my core family, and UM, that just meant the world

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 1>to me that they were all there to support me.

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 1>And I loved every many a minute of that date.

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Well we did too. It was truly enjoyed watching you

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:48.480
<v Speaker 1>on the show because you've taken it up a notch,

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Like you've really raised the bar when it's come to

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:54.720
<v Speaker 1>the show. You've we've had when you've we've been able

0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:57.840
<v Speaker 1>to have conversations that I don't know prior to twenty

0:46:57.840 --> 0:46:59.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty we would have ever been able to have on

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:02.719
<v Speaker 1>the Bashel franchise, and Becka and I both speak out

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 1>about the need for diversity and the need for change

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<v Speaker 1>and the need for growth. And I'm happy that through

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:11.879
<v Speaker 1>the conversation that you initiated, we were able to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, naming people who were killed at the hands

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<v Speaker 1>of the police on ABC Prime Time, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It really was powerful. And I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>know or you understand. I'm sure you didn't in the

0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:28.319
<v Speaker 1>moment because you were just being yourself and saying, you know,

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:30.960
<v Speaker 1>how you were feeling. But I hope you see that

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:33.359
<v Speaker 1>it was a big deal, you know, now that it's

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<v Speaker 1>out there. Yeah, no, I know, I really appreciate it

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:38.959
<v Speaker 1>that And to be honest, I was definitely aware. And

0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I've been listening to you guys for a while now,

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<v Speaker 1>actually ever since, like I started the casting process and

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 1>hearing you guys speak about things. Rachel Becka, I really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you guys for bringing stuff up. I remember you

0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:52.680
<v Speaker 1>guys had a podcast specifically about talking about the world

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:55.360
<v Speaker 1>and whatnot, and I listened to that, and you know,

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:58.000
<v Speaker 1>they're with the whole Bashed diversity campaign and all that

0:47:58.040 --> 0:47:59.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. Like I read through the things that

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:02.120
<v Speaker 1>they had, so I was keenly aware of what was

0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:05.400
<v Speaker 1>happening and and myself being you know, half black, half Asian.

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I kind of I did like a quick check. I

0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen any other black and Asian person on the

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:12.239
<v Speaker 1>show before, so I was like the first person to

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:16.680
<v Speaker 1>represent people who looked like me specifically, and you know,

0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:20.319
<v Speaker 1>and especially having takes there, that's what I think really

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:22.919
<v Speaker 1>allowed me to like relate to her with us both

0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:26.200
<v Speaker 1>being by racial and especially it was it was in

0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:29.400
<v Speaker 1>the summertime, so like things had just happened, and I know,

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I spent a ton of time reflecting and taking notes

0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:34.759
<v Speaker 1>and like making all these project plans for like all

0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:36.960
<v Speaker 1>these ideas I have. That's just what I do in

0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:39.319
<v Speaker 1>those types of moments, and so it was just still

0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:41.960
<v Speaker 1>so fresh on my mind, and you know, I wanted

0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:44.359
<v Speaker 1>to be a part of the change in Bastro Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really glad that it was received well. I'm honestly shocked.

0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I haven't got too much backlash at all. Like I

0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:53.200
<v Speaker 1>was actually really shocked for just for just having a

0:48:53.280 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 1>from a regular conversation. So I'm very happy with the

0:48:56.560 --> 0:48:59.480
<v Speaker 1>way it was received, and I'm very happy that I

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:01.640
<v Speaker 1>got to start potentially a new trend in that's our

0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:04.439
<v Speaker 1>an issue. Can I tell you Taylor Nolan is doing

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<v Speaker 1>a series about biracial contestants. I think she started in August. Actually,

0:49:09.960 --> 0:49:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you're aware of it, but through

0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:14.800
<v Speaker 1>her podcast of with biracial contestants that have been on

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:17.440
<v Speaker 1>the show, and it's really good. So if you haven't

0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:20.239
<v Speaker 1>checked it out already, do that, because she's definitely been

0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:23.360
<v Speaker 1>great at like leading the charge of that experience. So no,

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:26.279
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate that. And I actually have heard that,

0:49:26.760 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 1>And yes, she had like four different shows or episodes

0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 1>of that. And Taylor was another person in Ba's Our Nation.

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't follow too many people honestly prior to coming

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:41.400
<v Speaker 1>onto this show. I think it was like yourself, Rachel,

0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:45.359
<v Speaker 1>and maybe Taylor and maybe Ashley Spivey. I think something

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:48.839
<v Speaker 1>like that. And Taylor and I have actually connected since

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:51.759
<v Speaker 1>after the show. And see somebody I appreciated who is

0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 1>always just being herself, which I appreciate the most. I

0:49:54.640 --> 0:49:57.359
<v Speaker 1>like you when people are just being themselves and not

0:49:57.400 --> 0:50:01.319
<v Speaker 1>regretting it at all or apologizing for that. H Yeah,

0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:03.640
<v Speaker 1>well I've been It has been an absolute pleasure. But

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:08.360
<v Speaker 1>you've like set this bar now for for the franchise

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:10.600
<v Speaker 1>as a whole, and I can only hope that we

0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:13.319
<v Speaker 1>take it up and not season by season and keep going.

0:50:13.400 --> 0:50:17.280
<v Speaker 1>So thank you for sharing your story on national television,

0:50:17.360 --> 0:50:20.000
<v Speaker 1>for sharing your family and the relationship that you have

0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:22.360
<v Speaker 1>with them with all of us, and just for being

0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:26.319
<v Speaker 1>being on our podcast today. We're so happy to have you. No,

0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm honored, and I really appreciate you guys having me. Honestly,

0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:31.720
<v Speaker 1>It's it feels like a dream comes true, honestly because

0:50:31.800 --> 0:50:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I've just heard you guys on the on apt podcast

0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:37.360
<v Speaker 1>for a while now, and meeting you guys is awesome.

0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:39.840
<v Speaker 1>So I really appreciate it. Thank you, Thank you for

0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:48.840
<v Speaker 1>that support. Yeah, of course, of course. Ivan right, so sweet.

0:50:48.840 --> 0:50:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh this been and he like I liked him before

0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:56.719
<v Speaker 1>and I and we've talked about this at length, like

0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:59.080
<v Speaker 1>after his one on one he grew on me so

0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:01.879
<v Speaker 1>so much. But just having him here today, like right now,

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:05.759
<v Speaker 1>the amount of chills that I got for this entire conversation.

0:51:07.320 --> 0:51:11.360
<v Speaker 1>He's incredible, incredible. It was him talking about because like

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:13.560
<v Speaker 1>that's what you want to hear when he said, hey,

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:15.480
<v Speaker 1>you know like Latatia, I want to see what she

0:51:15.520 --> 0:51:18.319
<v Speaker 1>does moving forward. Hearing him talk about the things he

0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:20.839
<v Speaker 1>wants to do moving forward, how he's like I've been

0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:23.160
<v Speaker 1>reflecting and I've been thinking, how could I help out

0:51:23.160 --> 0:51:26.239
<v Speaker 1>with this or bringing awareness to the abuse from correctional

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:29.240
<v Speaker 1>officers and have in fighting for people who are behind bars.

0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just the level of activism, the level of

0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:36.480
<v Speaker 1>the desire to want to do better and make changes

0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:40.759
<v Speaker 1>in our society. I really appreciate the conversation, and I

0:51:40.840 --> 0:51:43.680
<v Speaker 1>love that you can tell that him talking about George

0:51:43.680 --> 0:51:45.959
<v Speaker 1>Floyd that was just the tip of the iceberg. There's

0:51:46.000 --> 0:51:49.640
<v Speaker 1>so much depth there. Yes, Like, I have no doubt

0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 1>he is going to be doing big, incredible things from

0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:55.680
<v Speaker 1>here on out. And then in a weird way, like

0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:58.239
<v Speaker 1>even though yes, it's a reality TV show, I'm glad

0:51:58.280 --> 0:52:01.120
<v Speaker 1>now that he has this platform to do so because

0:52:01.239 --> 0:52:03.600
<v Speaker 1>had we not have had him on, and had he

0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:06.279
<v Speaker 1>not shared this story about his brother and speaking out

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:09.960
<v Speaker 1>about George Floyd, like Bachelor Nation would have had none

0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 1>of that this season, and it's so needed and so

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:14.799
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see what he does from here

0:52:14.800 --> 0:52:18.280
<v Speaker 1>on out. And he did not disappoint, No, he didn't.

0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Can't wait. He's a good one. So all right, you guys, Well,

0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:24.719
<v Speaker 1>getting down to the wire, we officially have only two

0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:27.399
<v Speaker 1>episodes left this season, which I know we keep saying

0:52:27.440 --> 0:52:29.719
<v Speaker 1>it seems like it's dragging on and on and on,

0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:33.479
<v Speaker 1>but we have two episodes left before the finale, so

0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:36.560
<v Speaker 1>we're dying to know how this season ends for Tasia.

0:52:36.680 --> 0:52:39.279
<v Speaker 1>I truly, like you know, we try to guess week

0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:43.160
<v Speaker 1>by week, and like, at this point, I have no

0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:46.799
<v Speaker 1>clue how it's going to turn out. So next week

0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 1>we're going to be on Monday and Tuesday back to back,

0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:51.240
<v Speaker 1>So please make sure that you're following along and watching

0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:53.799
<v Speaker 1>with us, yes, and also make sure to keep up

0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:55.799
<v Speaker 1>with us on social You know where to find us

0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:58.960
<v Speaker 1>at Bachelor Happy Hour on Instagram or at Batch Happy

0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Hour Spoke in Twitter. And last but not least, you guys,

0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:06.200
<v Speaker 1>don't forget to subscribe to our podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify,

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<v Speaker 1>ye