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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another week of Happy Hour with the

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Speaker 1: two of Us and Rachel. This week, I have to say,

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Speaker 1: it's finally, finally, finally, it felt like a real typical

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Speaker 1: Bachelor episode with a start and a finish for once,

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Speaker 1: this is what we have been asking for, and so

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Speaker 1: in that regard, I am thrilled, and it was cute,

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Speaker 1: it was your typical hometown dates. I want to get

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Speaker 1: into it because we have an incredible guest joining us today,

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Speaker 1: probably one of the most requested men that we've had

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Speaker 1: that we've seen this season that we're going to have on,

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Speaker 1: and that is mister Ivan himself, and I've been dying

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Speaker 1: to talk to him since that one on one date

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Speaker 1: that he had not tastious. So I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: have him on, to pick his brain, to talk about

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Speaker 1: his family and the incredible impact that he has made

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Speaker 1: so far on this season and in I would say

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Speaker 1: Bachelor franchise as a whole. Yeah, I mean, I couldn't

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Speaker 1: agree with you more. It's interesting. I didn't even think

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Speaker 1: about the fact that we had a traditional episode from

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Speaker 1: start to finish until you just said that, and I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right, you're right, and we're finally there, right, And

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Speaker 1: you know, hometown week is usually not eventful, do you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like you have your few exceptions,

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Speaker 1: like on my season meeting Dean's family and his and

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Speaker 1: like he didn't have those traditional family and there's been

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Speaker 1: so many issues, you know, after the death of his

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Speaker 1: mother that he's been trying to deal with, and there

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Speaker 1: was just a lot there and you probably will never

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Speaker 1: see a hometown like that again. So this was what

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Speaker 1: I expected it to be, straightforward, not for us, it's

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Speaker 1: for Tasia. It's a chance for Tasia to get to

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Speaker 1: know these men on another level, to better understand where

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Speaker 1: she wants to move forward in this journey, and also

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Speaker 1: for the families to get to know Tasia. Who was

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Speaker 1: your favorite hometown? My favorite hometown? Well, I'm gonna give it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you two parts because because what I

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Speaker 1: found interesting for this was like they obviously could not

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Speaker 1: to Lakinta, which that in itself is interesting and also

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Speaker 1: like I could have probably done without that part. I

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Speaker 1: would have rather had and just putting myself back into contestant.

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Speaker 1: She's like, rather had just a full day with the

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Speaker 1: family as opposed to like trying to recreate this fake

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Speaker 1: city hometown vibe at this hottest balls resort. If I

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Speaker 1: will say that, so I guess, like when I say

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Speaker 1: two parts my favorite, like, actually, I shouldn't even split

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Speaker 1: it up. It was just Ivan. I was trying to think.

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Speaker 1: I was about to say Zach's like cheesy, funny New

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Speaker 1: York date, just because I love cheesy, but like, actually,

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Speaker 1: if I was Taitia, I probably would have loved Ivan's

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Speaker 1: date from start to finish the best. And you're laughing

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Speaker 1: at me right now, and I know probably what you're

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Speaker 1: gonna slide. Why are you Why do you think I'm laughing?

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Speaker 1: Are you laughing at the cheesy New York date? Yes? Yes,

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Speaker 1: it was at that moment when I saw the taxi

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Speaker 1: cabs that I said, a cab, I said, you know what,

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Speaker 1: this is the first time I feel sorry that Tatia's

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Speaker 1: doing her entire season at looking that I never have.

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Speaker 1: I've been appreciating the depth in the conversations. I've been

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Speaker 1: appreciating the fact that there aren't distractions, that these dates

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Speaker 1: have been very real life, and she can get a

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Speaker 1: better feel of what it is to be with these

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Speaker 1: men and what's the bubble is gone? But I thought,

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Speaker 1: my god, when they picked up that box bar, I

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Speaker 1: took fifty feet, stept fifty feet over to the bagel

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Speaker 1: stand sir, Oh God. I feel so sorry for Tatio.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta love Zack's enthusiasm when haling the cab.

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Speaker 1: He I mean it was it was cute, I said,

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Speaker 1: something out of nothing. But I felt so bad for her.

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Speaker 1: There is something special about because behind the scenes, you guys,

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes talk. What's so great is when you're

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Speaker 1: the lead. You're the one planning the dates and announcing

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Speaker 1: and what's next. You know what's ahead before they do.

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Speaker 1: But when it comes to hometowns, the lead is in

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Speaker 1: that person is doing because it's they're showing you their hometown,

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Speaker 1: their family, how they navigate their life away from the cameras.

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Speaker 1: So it's a really special moment and Tastia and get

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Speaker 1: Tai's like I can see my room from over there

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Speaker 1: while I'm holding up this box text. She was definitely

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Speaker 1: on Hometowns, one of my favorite parts was again behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes, but like when we would just be driving

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Speaker 1: that's my school er, that's where I used to go

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Speaker 1: she was robbed of it. And that's why I say, like,

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Speaker 1: I wish you would have just had the full day

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Speaker 1: the game. I don't want to see it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: will agree with you, though. My favorite hometown was Ivan's.

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Speaker 1: From his parents to the well, the cooking, to the parents,

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Speaker 1: to the brother, to Ivan's reaction, I just loved it all.

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Speaker 1: A close second, though, are the Clarks, because that's what

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Speaker 1: zach See kept saying. You constantly referred to his family

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Speaker 1: as the Clarks. Tatius meeting the Clarks and liked it. Yeah, yes, um,

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Speaker 1: I mean I like, I'm just I just love people.

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Speaker 1: So I love like seeing It's so different when the

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Speaker 1: and nieces and nephews and parents, and so that's special

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Speaker 1: to see. Yeah, Like nothing major major stood out really

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Speaker 1: again your standard like getting to know the family. We

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Speaker 1: do start to see a little foreshadowing. I feel like

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Speaker 1: though with some of the guys, Like I noticed right

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Speaker 1: away with Brendan, he's very in his head and he

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Speaker 1: makes multiple comments about like I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 1: quite there yet writing to propose, like I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I want to do this again. And it's interesting

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Speaker 1: because I watched Santasia with him and see her body

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Speaker 1: into him. Did you notice that, Like I haven't, you

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Speaker 1: know every want to talk about Zack. See, I see Brendan.

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Speaker 1: She is everything from her body language to how her

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Speaker 1: Brendan's that type of person that's on this show. I

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Speaker 1: is like I'm not ready, Like I am so sick

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Speaker 1: of that narrative. Why are you on the show? We

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Speaker 1: all know how this ship is, right, Like, you know

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Speaker 1: what happens in this show. So for you to pull

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Speaker 1: out the car taking the spot of a Riley who

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Speaker 1: would have done anything to get a hometown, dare say

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Speaker 1: it even a blake am people who really wanted that spot.

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Speaker 1: And here you are saying bringing up things that you

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Speaker 1: knew from the first day, right, you knew you were married,

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Speaker 1: you before you knew you had certain reservations. You knew

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Speaker 1: that this was another level for you because you've gotten

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Speaker 1: down on one knee and you don't want to rush

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Speaker 1: the process. Sir, Why the hell are you on the Bachelor?

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Speaker 1: It's all rushed, you know what I mean? Like when

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Speaker 1: I see people like that, I am questioning you. I

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Speaker 1: can't see Brendan any other way other than this is

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Speaker 1: an opportunity for him. You aren't serious about this, You're

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Speaker 1: wastingatious time. Yeah. Yeah, it makes me think like did

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Speaker 1: you come on just wanting clout and some sort of fame,

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Speaker 1: not thinking you were going to potentially follow this hard

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Speaker 1: and fast for somebody. But yeah, at the end of

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Speaker 1: be a contestant on the show, like the goal is

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Speaker 1: to getting to the lead, Like that is no excuses enough? No, yeah,

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Speaker 1: nothing is. Nothing works. The fact that she's having a

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Speaker 1: fantasy suite. You knew that was going to happen. The

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Speaker 1: fact that you're surprised at how quickly you fell, that's

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Speaker 1: always a possibility. There is no excuse for it. You

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Speaker 1: this as an excuse. It's been done before, fellas if

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Speaker 1: you're coming on the show for cloud, use a different

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Speaker 1: excuse that we see it. Yeah, I'm over it. I

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Speaker 1: can I ask you a question? Yeah, do you think

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Speaker 1: parents came? Um, we didn't, Ben and Brendan did their

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Speaker 1: hearing from Brendan if he explained it. Yeah, And no,

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Speaker 1: with him this entire season. Ben's timing is so terrible,

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Speaker 1: name Antonio, Antonia Rachel. She's a great chef in La

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Speaker 1: I've ended two of them and her food is impeccable

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Speaker 1: Her restaurant she has Scopa in Venice and she does

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Speaker 1: Scopa and then but if you love Scope, this other

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Speaker 1: way too much. Everything was incredible, So shout out to Antonia.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think, like me takeaway with that is

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Speaker 1: maybe you don't even tell he's because he wasn't in love. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. Yes, welcome, and you've been

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Speaker 1: was like a little bit nerve wrecking, um, because we

426
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: just went through what we went through. But um, I

427
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: remember there were probably like a few of the guys

428
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: we thought it was going to turn into Bachelor in Paradise,

429
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: to be honest, so we were just excited for whatever.

430
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: But I remember telling, um, a couple I remember telling

431
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: a couple of guys I was like, you know, it

432
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 1: could be Bachelor Paradise would be great, but honestly, all

433
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: it takes is one girl and to be the bachelorette,

434
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 1: and that's going to get me excited too, And uh,

435
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: that's all it took. And and Tashia arrived and as

436
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 1: soon as she walked in that door. I know, I

437
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: was the first person to hugger. I was the most

438
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: excited guy in that room that night. Um, Taia's just

439
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: somebody like who. I felt like I kind of already knew. Um,

440
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: I feel like we have similar backgrounds and I just knew,

441
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: And I even said it that night. I was like,

442
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: I'm in here. I'm gonna be here for the long haul.

443
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of guys were kind of

444
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: like taking it back by it all because they all

445
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: had this idea that the rankings of Claire's people was

446
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: gonna stay the same with Tasia, and I was like, no,

447
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: this is completely different. Good luck to you guys, because

448
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna be here for a while. To

449
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: be honest, Oh, I love it. I love the concidence.

450
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: So what was it that made you say Tatia and

451
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: I have very similar backgrounds? Well, one thing I guess

452
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: that we connected with on our one on one was

453
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: that we're both by racial have black dads, and then

454
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: our moms are actually both you know, immigrants. Her mom's

455
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: from Mexico and my mom's from the Philippines, and we

456
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,959
Speaker 1: did speak about that as well, and that was one thing,

457
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: another thing we could connect on how we can like

458
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 1: relate to both cultures. And then on top of that,

459
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: she's from Orange County and I'm from a Plano, Texas,

460
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: which is like a really nice area which is probably

461
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 1: a little bit some of the Orange County. And I

462
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: feel like I've met a lot of people like Tasia.

463
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: I would say, so, I felt like I to a

464
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: certain degree, I kind of knew her, And I've dated

465
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: a lot of different women of all races, all backgrounds

466
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 1: and whatnot. But like I'll say, the majority have been

467
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: like kind of in like the Tay Show, realm or

468
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: so so, um so she was your type? Yeah, yeah,

469
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: I would say, she's yeah, she was more of my type.

470
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: I would say, sure, my preference, I guess. Yeah. Well,

471
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: if we couldn't tell from the smile the second she

472
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: walked in real quick, Yeah, I'm sorry, no, no no, keep

473
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: going no. Yeah. I actually like had to catch myself

474
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: after one of my interviews that night, and I was like, oh, well,

475
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: I need to calm down. I'm a little too excited,

476
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 1: right because it was it was a lot of excitement though,

477
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: because I was just I was just ready to get

478
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: things going. Well, you were literally loaded. You were like

479
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: bouncing in the chair just smiling. I was like, oh,

480
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: he is ready for this one. Um. So taking it

481
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: back to your one on one because that's really where

482
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 1: we first obviously got to know you, and the fact

483
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,719
Speaker 1: that I love about it is like you guys weren't traveling.

484
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: There was no exotic destinations, there was no fancy gimmicks.

485
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: It was just like one of the most chill, down

486
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 1: to earth but memorable one on ones that we've ever

487
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 1: ever seen on the show. For however many seasons, it's

488
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: been going on a thousand now basically, and that's I

489
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: think based solely on you opening up about your vulnerability

490
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: to have these important conversations and to really talk about

491
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: what's not only going on with yourself and in your life,

492
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: in your background, but with the world. And so I

493
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: want to start with the story of your brother. How

494
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: did you feel being able to share that part of

495
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: your life with Taisha? Was it nerve racking? How did

496
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: it feel after you had this conversation to take us

497
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: back to that night? Yeah, yeah, so that night. Honestly, first,

498
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: just first of all, it started out great, like I

499
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: love game nights, and I told Tasha that actually in

500
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: one of the earlier cocktail parties, like game nights are

501
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: my thing, just hanging out with my friends doing playing

502
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: all types of games, whatever you can think of. Those

503
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: are like my favorite nights, just doing that in drinking

504
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 1: and having a good time. And then for us to

505
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: have that first meant a lot to me because it

506
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: was just so much fun that we could just like

507
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: really relax and be ourselves. And then later on, I

508
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: knew I wanted to, uh, you know, share the story

509
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: with my brother because you know, in this short amount

510
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: of time, you really have to like explain and show

511
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 1: the person that you truly are. And to do that

512
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: for me, I had to tell the brother of the

513
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: story of my brother that shaped me in more ways

514
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: than pretty much anything in my life. So I felt

515
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: like I really needed to do that. It was a

516
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: little bit nerve wrecking because I'll tell you, like some

517
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: of my best friends honestly, you don't even know, like

518
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: my younger brother was in prison because I keep a

519
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: lot of that in um. So it was a little

520
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: bit nerve wrecking, but it was definitely something I wanted

521
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: to share and I knew I had to share for

522
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: Tasha to really understand kind of who I am a

523
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah. I mean that conversation was like a

524
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: conversation we've never seen before on the Bachelor franchise, and

525
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: I spoke about it like at great lengths here on

526
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: a Bachelor Happy Hour, and one of the things we

527
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: said was we really appreciated you being vulnerable, which is

528
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: what Becca was talking about, but also just the way

529
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: you were able to speak about the situation because you

530
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: admitted your own thoughts and how you used to think

531
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: about things, which I thought was very honest because a

532
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: lot of people can't do that. You said, Oh, I

533
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: used to think of it this way until I had

534
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: somebody close to me who was a part of the system,

535
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: and then I started to see it in a totally

536
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: different way. And I thought that was very eye opening

537
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: and refreshing to see, because not everybody has the power

538
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: to be able to do that. One of the things

539
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: that we talked about on the podcast is that we

540
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: felt like you carried the conversation. It seemed very and Becca,

541
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: I have received a little bit heat from this, but

542
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: it's the true. It's how we felt. I was blown

543
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: away by you. We were by you and your honesty.

544
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: I want to know how you felt in that moment,

545
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: because obviously we aren't we weren't privy to the entire conversation.

546
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: There was obviously more that was said. How did you

547
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: feel in that moment? Oh? Man, Um, Yeah, so that

548
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: that Yeah, that moment was great and you know, it

549
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: just it just came so naturally, honestly for the both

550
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: of us. But yeah, with me, I I did see

551
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: a lot of hesitation when it came to Titia. And

552
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: for myself, I know, like throughout my whole life, I've

553
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: always been very introspective and taken a lot of time

554
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: to think deeply about a lot of topics and do

555
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: research to like form my own opinions on things. And

556
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: you know, to be honest, not everybody spent has spent

557
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: that amount of time, I would say. And and my

558
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: dad's done a good job of like making sure I'm

559
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: keenly aware of like black issues in America, especially with

560
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: my dad being a little bit older. He's seventy three,

561
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: Like he's lived through a lot of crazy stuff, so

562
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: he's told me a lot of stories. So growing up

563
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: I knew a lot of different things and was keenly

564
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: aware of you know, batter and and black issues, especially

565
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: this year for sure. So no, I just appreciate Atasia

566
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: in that moment for just being open and honest, because

567
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: that's what I think she was doing. You know, not

568
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be able to just speak at length on

569
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: term on these types of things, or give dissertations on

570
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: black issues in America and whatnot. And I don't expect

571
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: everybody too to be honest. But as long as you're

572
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: like aware things are happening and you're being open and

573
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: honest about the way you view things, then that's all

574
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: I could ask for from her at that moment for sure.

575
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: First of all, I appreciate your father setting the example

576
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: of recognizing the fact that you're biracial, right like I'm

577
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: not biracial, but I will have biracial children and I

578
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: take and I just think it's so admirable that he

579
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: recognized that you do have you come from two different cultures,

580
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: but always reminding of you of who you are, always

581
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: reminding you that if you get pulled over when people

582
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: see you, this is what they're going to see first,

583
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: and they may not understand the other side of you.

584
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and I think that it's something that

585
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: you said about you know you appreciated Tasha about being

586
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: aware of what's going on. I guess I feel like,

587
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: as a black woman, I need you to be more

588
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: than aware. And I think this was like kind of

589
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: the issue in watching it. Would you expect or maybe

590
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: want more from someone that you're establishing a relationship with.

591
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: Would you want them to be more cognizant of who

592
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: they are when they navigate this world? And maybe you

593
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: can give me a different perspective because I will recognize

594
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm black and black, you know you are biracial, and

595
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: so maybe you can give a different perspective of what

596
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: it is to navigate the world as a biracial person

597
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: that I can't. Yeah, no, you're You're making a great point, right,

598
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: But to be frank and honest, Tasha honestly just grew

599
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: up in a bubble, I feel like, and she's kind

600
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: of you know, and I could kind of see that

601
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: and sense that from her what she's able to do

602
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: going forward is what matters the most. But kudos to

603
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: you because you truly did I think carry that conversation

604
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: and I want to go and because you spoke about

605
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: your dad, and I will say this, so after watching Hometowns,

606
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: with your family and we all talked to well, I

607
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: shouldn't say, Rachel and I talked about this before you

608
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: hopped on about how I was I think one of

609
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: our favorite hometown dates out of this launch. It was

610
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: just the fact that you guys were cooking and drinking

611
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: wine in the kitchen seemed so down to earth, and

612
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: your family was so beautiful and lovely. When I did

613
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: write in my notes, your dad kind of reminded me

614
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: of my father. So my dad is also well was

615
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: he passed away, but he was older, so he was

616
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: actually the same age as your dad. But your father

617
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: and I feel like we don't always see this with

618
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: parents on the show because I think they like they're like, oh,

619
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: we just want our son or daughter to be happy,

620
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: and this is like really cool, unique experience. But your

621
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 1: dad was so realistic and down to earth, and I

622
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: like that he kind of like kept you grounded when

623
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: he saw you. That was something really special. So I

624
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: love that interaction because it just, you know, it gave

625
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: me all the feels. But the real surprise of your

626
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: hometown date wasn't seeing your parents. It was seem your brother. Yeah,

627
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: and the show doesn't make me cry very often. And

628
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: I was sobbing like a baby watching this moment go down.

629
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: So what when he walked out, Give me everything you're

630
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: feeling and thinking when you first saw him again after

631
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: two months. I gotta be honest, Yeah, I was only

632
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: anticipating my parents being there, and you know, that's what

633
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison told me. And when Chris told me that,

634
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: my mind, just because I've kind of been trained to

635
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: think this way, it just went to like dark places

636
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: of like something bad happened to my brother because we

637
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: are close and I knew he would be there for

638
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: me if he could. So I was just extremely nervous that,

639
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: you know, something terrible happened and he ended up back

640
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: in prison or you know, honestly even potentially dead. To

641
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: be honest, that's something we've been dealing with, you know,

642
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: before he was in prison, and during he was in prison,

643
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: and after, Um he struggles from a lot of mental

644
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: health issues and like I said, a little bit of

645
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: addiction and depression and all that kind of stuff. So um,

646
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: it's hard to work through. So I was just I

647
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: was just I was just very nervous, I would say.

648
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: But when he actually showed up there, um, it was

649
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: just such a such a nice relief I m to

650
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: be able to actually see him, and you know, there's times, honestly,

651
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: he's only been at that point, he was only out

652
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: of prison for about a year, and we've had trials

653
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: and tribulations even just that year he's been out. But

654
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: that was the first time I've seen him like on

655
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: a trip he's been that he's been on a trip

656
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: or in a different state in in years, like since

657
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: we were little, So it was just it was just

658
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: such a shock to have him there. I'm sure he

659
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: was enjoying his experience there, and he just means the

660
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: world to me. I've said this multiple times, but he's

661
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: the most influential person in my life. He's the person

662
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: if he was like me, I honestly might be like

663
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: a little bit in the bubble and not be so

664
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: open to people who have gone through issues and whatnot.

665
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: So he's just opened my eyes, you know, going to

666
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: different rehabs with him and participating in sessions and whatnot

667
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: and hearing other people's stories, just to be under more

668
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: understanding and less judgmental of everyone in the world, to

669
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: be honest. So he doesn't take enough credit for that,

670
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: and he'll always say like, I'm just, you know, the

671
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: greatest big brother in the world, but he's the greatest

672
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: younger brother too, and just by being himself. You guys, Okay,

673
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: you're emotional right now? What is going on your reaction

674
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: when he walks through. I love Tasia's reaction too, because

675
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: you hear the door open it. Tastia just looks at

676
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: you like, oh my gosh, it's happening, and it's like

677
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't register with you yet. You're like, wait what

678
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: And you go from this laugh to this cry, like

679
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: you see the emotion change, like I can't believe this

680
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: is happening, to oh my gosh, it's happening. Oh I

681
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: have It's everything. I am curious to know because you've

682
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: been so honest about what your brother has gone through.

683
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: How is your brother right now and how has he

684
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: been knowing that you have been I'm sure you got

685
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: his blessing, but just like you've been talking about like

686
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: the things that he's been through, I just like I

687
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: want to know how he's feeling about it and how's

688
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: he doing now? For sure? Yeah, my brother and I

689
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: are very close. We talk all the time, and he

690
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: understands that he has helped shape the person I've become

691
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: the day, So he knows I need to be able

692
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: to express that to whoever I want to potentially get

693
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: married to you, because that's how I'm viewing this at

694
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 1: that point. So he I definitely had his blessing for sure.

695
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: And on top of that, my brother and I have

696
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 1: talked about potentially starting like you know, charities and ways

697
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: of giving back because of his experience in prison. Like

698
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: I said on the show, it's when we would go

699
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: visit him, he would tell me some crazy stuff that's

700
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: happening in prison like that nobody else he wouldn't tell

701
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: that to anybody else. My mom would go step away,

702
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: or my mom and dad would go step away and

703
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: bring his daughter away. And know, we'd have those intense

704
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: talks where he's like sometimes breaking down and telling me

705
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: these things he's actually having to deal with, and I'm

706
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: trying to coach him through it, but there's not much

707
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: you can do through a glass wall. And then when

708
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: I leave, I just feel so helpless. So there's there's

709
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: just so much that he's learned going through that experience.

710
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: And and quite frankly, you know, like I said with

711
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: George Floyd, police brutality has been brought to the forefront

712
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: of the society here in America. The thing that me

713
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: and him have both recognized is that, you know, correctional

714
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: officer brutal brutality is not really talked about at all.

715
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: That's a situation where there is nobody in the prison

716
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: system or jails who have cameras to record what's going on.

717
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: If you do something, it's completely handled by the correctional officers.

718
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,479
Speaker 1: They get they're the judge, jury, executioner, all that stuff,

719
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: and beside your fate, there's no visibility whatsoever. So without

720
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: any visibility, there's there's no way we can like track

721
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 1: what's going on or hold people accountable at all, especially

722
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: with all the third party So those are all major

723
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: problems we've we've known and have recognized. And you know, prisoners,

724
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: you know, majority of them come back to society and

725
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: you know, to be going through abuse in there, and

726
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: you know, honestly, not having the correct rehabilitation type of

727
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: activities going on in there. It's just not good for

728
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, America as a whole, honestly. So there's a

729
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: lot of changes that I think need to need to happen.

730
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: You know, this is the like prison capital of the world,

731
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: America is we hold a vast majority of the prisoners

732
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: compared to all the other developed countries, especially the candidate

733
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: Scandinavian countries. So there's a lot of improvement to be

734
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: done there. And with my brother's knowledge from the inside,

735
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: and then like with what I want to do with

736
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: philanthropy going forward and charities and whatnot, we'll definitely want

737
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: to make a change in that space. Okay, this is

738
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: why I love having you guys on the podcast, because

739
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: there is so much that not only we can learn

740
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: from you, but that all of our listeners can learn

741
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: from you. And I guarantee a majority of the listeners

742
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: probably have no and I don't want this, like, probably

743
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: have no idea of all the things that are really

744
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: truly going on. And and this is why it's so good,

745
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: as you said, to educate yourself and to immerse yourself

746
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: in something that you don't see on a daily basis,

747
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: to learn more and grow from and so incredible, incredible. Um.

748
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: One thing I want to touch on switching gears a

749
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: little bit. Here is your adorable niece, the adorable name.

750
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: I can't we can't not talk about hometowns like the

751
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: what did the best chef Filipino chef was it? But

752
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: you yes, yes, she's she's just had her fifth year

753
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: birthday and um, you know, I think she'll really appreciate

754
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: that moment later going for it as she really realizes

755
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: what actually happened. My mom and uh, Kaylanie's mom are

756
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: very like they do their very hands on and do

757
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: everything with her. So the fact that they were able

758
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: to get a video of her cooking lumpia, you know,

759
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: which is something that my mom's cooked for me my

760
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: entire life, really meant a lot to me. And I

761
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: really wanted Kaylanie to be there more than anything. But

762
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: you know, she couldn't make the trip, but which was

763
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: which was fine. That video was enough and that brought

764
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: a giant smile to my face. Kaylanie, you know, she

765
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: was born, like I said, I think on the show,

766
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: she was born while my brother was in prison, so

767
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 1: she had her mom there and her mom's great amazing,

768
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: but me and my parents definitely had to step up

769
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: and step into her life. And I always wanted to

770
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: make sure she had that like father figure there for

771
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: her as well. And that and I always wanted my

772
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: brother to know that She's taking care of no matter

773
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: what happens, because I'm always going to take care of

774
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: her and look at her as my own. So yeah,

775
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 1: having Kaylani sending that video is the cutest thing ever.

776
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: She's the cutest little girl. She's like the background on

777
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: my phone and I love her. If I'm ever feeling down,

778
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: I just have to look at a picture of her

779
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: and I'm good. I'm good to go after that. She's

780
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: so cute. I've been listening to you speak about her.

781
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: It just it gives me chills and so special. I

782
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: feel like I have no idea what happens the rest

783
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: of this season after this hometown date. But um, I

784
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: feel like you would be ready for kids. I don't know,

785
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: So okay, I'll say yeah, yeah, I'll say this. I Um,

786
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 1: I could definitely handle kids now, but I definitely want

787
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: to enjoy like traveling and doing something for my partner

788
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: first four kids. To be honest, So often do you

789
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 1: see her? Lum? It varies. She lives about three hours

790
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: away right now, so I probably see her once a

791
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: month maybe, But before that, she lived at my parents

792
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: house with her mom for about a year, so I

793
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: saw her all the time. Then, um, so yeah, it's

794
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: always a treat to see her though, especially now that

795
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: she's getting her personality. She's always been pretty shy and

796
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: now she's finally in the personality. So she's a TV

797
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: star now that's right. Yeah, you um, i'man we We

798
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: we get to see so many great things about you

799
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: on the show. And one of the other things is

800
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: that you tend to stay out of the drama, like

801
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: you're not involved. There's a lot of drama surrounding you,

802
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: especially with the switch of bachelorettes and the men and

803
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: all of this. It's a lot Who were you close

804
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: with in the house? Oh? I was close with a

805
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: lot of guys, but first and foremost, Damar was probably

806
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: my best friend from this show. He uh, we were

807
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: roommates the longest actually, and you know, being a roommate

808
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 1: just allowed us to talk a lot more. And he's

809
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: such like a bala energy and like probably the most

810
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: positive guy in the house, especially as like a spin instructor.

811
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: He's got great Energy's got to be positive. Yeah, he's

812
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: the best at telling stories. He could be like a

813
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: narrator honestly, a podcast host or even a DJ. He's

814
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: got great music sense. So I was closest with Damar,

815
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: but I was close with a lot of guys. I

816
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: was really close with um Or still am close with

817
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: Noah Riley, Jordan Chapman, Um, quite a few of the guys,

818
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: Um Spencer, even Um. I know I'm missing a couple,

819
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: but yeah, quite a few of the guys I still

820
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: keep in touch with. I'm assuming you're part of the group.

821
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: Chat like, what do you guys callow yourself as the

822
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: Sweet sixteen? Did we name it? We named it? Well?

823
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: I think na Kenny that said like the Sweet sixteen

824
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: group probably guys. Yeah, whenever when Claire left, a lot

825
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: of the guys liked named us the Sweet sixteen. And

826
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: if you guys were there like listening to us, Um,

827
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: everybody was saying they were gonna get Sweet sixteen tattoos

828
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: and whatnot. And I was over here just being quiet

829
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: because I was like, I don't want a tattoo, but

830
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: everybody was down for it. It was hilarious. But uh,

831
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's the Sweet sixteen. Was always so like Kenny.

832
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: I feel like Kenny was leading the charge on that,

833
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: so like, oh he wanted probably everybody imagine the star

834
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: chat is we have the same conversation when I was

835
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: on RA season. Um, I don't remember how many of

836
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: us were laugh maybe like fourteen. We went to Paris

837
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: and we all thought it would be a good idea

838
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: to get rose tattoos. Thank God we didn't. Thank God,

839
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: I think that's been done. I feel like somebody did that.

840
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: My group of girls, we were like, it's cool here.

841
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: But I don't know if I'm really gonna know y'all

842
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: like that when and I'm still close to several of them,

843
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: but no, absolutely Damar has a rose tattoo though, he's

844
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: the only one who I think one. Actually he got one.

845
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: Go one's pretty cool too. Tell me it's like a

846
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: big one, not like it's like a big one all

847
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: across the Okay, I appreciate that. I appreciate that now

848
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: he committed to it. He committed to can't you see

849
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: him though? And like as a spin instructor saying, you know,

850
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: back at my time when I was in Palm Springs

851
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: at the laking, you just gotta stay focused. You can't,

852
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: you can't determine. You know, if you ever see the

853
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: spin instructor, I could totally hear the pellets on in

854
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: my head. You gotta stay focused. You can't worry about

855
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: these other men that are distracting you. Oh my god,

856
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: the whole thing. I'm telling you the best that I'm

857
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: sure it's. Yeah. Oh I well, Becca, I'll let you

858
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: ask your final question. Yeah, I think I was done.

859
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Um so, I mean we asked this of

860
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: every guest because it's and the answers very greatly. But

861
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: what was your rose and your thorn of the entire

862
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: season up until this point, up until hometowns? Okay? Um

863
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: for what's okay? Okay, okay, I got you? So my thorn,

864
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: I know, my one thorn. Actually, this is my only

865
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: complaint that I have. I don't complain about much, honest

866
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: because I was just so grateful for the experience. But

867
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: the heat there was ridiculous. I'm for sure in Palm

868
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: Springs was ridiculous. I couldn't deal with it. It's like

869
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: if we go outside and shoot for a little bit

870
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 1: and I'm sweating like crazy. Eventually I started to learn like, hey,

871
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 1: I need to always carry its howel because this is ridiculous.

872
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: I just gotta wipe off all the time. Um So

873
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: that sucked, to be honest, but U but either way,

874
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to come off as like I'm complaining

875
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: because I was just very thankful to be there. Um.

876
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: The rose m up to that point. Yeah, I guess

877
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: it's just got to be the family, the hometown. The

878
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: hometown's got to be That just had so many different elements.

879
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: The fact I got to share, like, you know, my

880
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: Filipino culture, Woultasia and just cook some lumpia that was

881
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: awesome for me. Um with Kailani coaching us through that.

882
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: UM and then and then the fact my mom, my brother,

883
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: and my dad were able to show up that like

884
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 1: my core family, and UM, that just meant the world

885
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: to me that they were all there to support me.

886
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: And I loved every many a minute of that date.

887
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: Well we did too. It was truly enjoyed watching you

888
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: on the show because you've taken it up a notch,

889
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: Like you've really raised the bar when it's come to

890
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: the show. You've we've had when you've we've been able

891
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: to have conversations that I don't know prior to twenty

892
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: twenty we would have ever been able to have on

893
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: the Bashel franchise, and Becka and I both speak out

894
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: about the need for diversity and the need for change

895
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: and the need for growth. And I'm happy that through

896
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 1: the conversation that you initiated, we were able to see that.

897
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: I mean, naming people who were killed at the hands

898
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: of the police on ABC Prime Time, you know, like

899
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: it was. It really was powerful. And I hope you

900
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: know or you understand. I'm sure you didn't in the

901
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: moment because you were just being yourself and saying, you know,

902
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: how you were feeling. But I hope you see that

903
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: it was a big deal, you know, now that it's

904
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, no, I know, I really appreciate it

905
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,959
Speaker 1: that And to be honest, I was definitely aware. And

906
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: I've been listening to you guys for a while now,

907
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: actually ever since, like I started the casting process and

908
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: hearing you guys speak about things. Rachel Becka, I really

909
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys for bringing stuff up. I remember you

910
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: guys had a podcast specifically about talking about the world

911
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: and whatnot, and I listened to that, and you know,

912
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: they're with the whole Bashed diversity campaign and all that

913
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Like I read through the things that

914
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: they had, so I was keenly aware of what was

915
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: happening and and myself being you know, half black, half Asian.

916
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: I kind of I did like a quick check. I

917
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: haven't seen any other black and Asian person on the

918
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: show before, so I was like the first person to

919
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: represent people who looked like me specifically, and you know,

920
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: and especially having takes there, that's what I think really

921
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 1: allowed me to like relate to her with us both

922
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: being by racial and especially it was it was in

923
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: the summertime, so like things had just happened, and I know,

924
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: I spent a ton of time reflecting and taking notes

925
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: and like making all these project plans for like all

926
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: these ideas I have. That's just what I do in

927
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: those types of moments, and so it was just still

928
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: so fresh on my mind, and you know, I wanted

929
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: to be a part of the change in Bastro Nation.

930
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: I'm really glad that it was received well. I'm honestly shocked.

931
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: I haven't got too much backlash at all. Like I

932
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: was actually really shocked for just for just having a

933
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: from a regular conversation. So I'm very happy with the

934
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: way it was received, and I'm very happy that I

935
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: got to start potentially a new trend in that's our

936
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 1: an issue. Can I tell you Taylor Nolan is doing

937
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: a series about biracial contestants. I think she started in August. Actually,

938
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're aware of it, but through

939
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: her podcast of with biracial contestants that have been on

940
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: the show, and it's really good. So if you haven't

941
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: checked it out already, do that, because she's definitely been

942
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: great at like leading the charge of that experience. So no,

943
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. And I actually have heard that,

944
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: And yes, she had like four different shows or episodes

945
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: of that. And Taylor was another person in Ba's Our Nation.

946
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: I didn't follow too many people honestly prior to coming

947
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: onto this show. I think it was like yourself, Rachel,

948
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: and maybe Taylor and maybe Ashley Spivey. I think something

949
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: like that. And Taylor and I have actually connected since

950
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: after the show. And see somebody I appreciated who is

951
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: always just being herself, which I appreciate the most. I

952
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: like you when people are just being themselves and not

953
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: regretting it at all or apologizing for that. H Yeah,

954
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: well I've been It has been an absolute pleasure. But

955
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: you've like set this bar now for for the franchise

956
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: as a whole, and I can only hope that we

957
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: take it up and not season by season and keep going.

958
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 1: So thank you for sharing your story on national television,

959
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: for sharing your family and the relationship that you have

960
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: with them with all of us, and just for being

961
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: being on our podcast today. We're so happy to have you. No,

962
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm honored, and I really appreciate you guys having me. Honestly,

963
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 1: It's it feels like a dream comes true, honestly because

964
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 1: I've just heard you guys on the on apt podcast

965
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: for a while now, and meeting you guys is awesome.

966
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: So I really appreciate it. Thank you, Thank you for

967
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: that support. Yeah, of course, of course. Ivan right, so sweet.

968
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: Oh this been and he like I liked him before

969
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: and I and we've talked about this at length, like

970
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: after his one on one he grew on me so

971
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: so much. But just having him here today, like right now,

972
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: the amount of chills that I got for this entire conversation.

973
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: He's incredible, incredible. It was him talking about because like

974
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: that's what you want to hear when he said, hey,

975
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: you know like Latatia, I want to see what she

976
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: does moving forward. Hearing him talk about the things he

977
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: wants to do moving forward, how he's like I've been

978
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: reflecting and I've been thinking, how could I help out

979
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: with this or bringing awareness to the abuse from correctional

980
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 1: officers and have in fighting for people who are behind bars.

981
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: I mean, just the level of activism, the level of

982
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: the desire to want to do better and make changes

983
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: in our society. I really appreciate the conversation, and I

984
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: love that you can tell that him talking about George

985
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,959
Speaker 1: Floyd that was just the tip of the iceberg. There's

986
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: so much depth there. Yes, Like, I have no doubt

987
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: he is going to be doing big, incredible things from

988
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: here on out. And then in a weird way, like

989
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: even though yes, it's a reality TV show, I'm glad

990
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: now that he has this platform to do so because

991
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: had we not have had him on, and had he

992
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: not shared this story about his brother and speaking out

993
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: about George Floyd, like Bachelor Nation would have had none

994
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: of that this season, and it's so needed and so

995
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what he does from here

996
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 1: on out. And he did not disappoint, No, he didn't.

997
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: Can't wait. He's a good one. So all right, you guys, Well,

998
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: getting down to the wire, we officially have only two

999
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: episodes left this season, which I know we keep saying

1000
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: it seems like it's dragging on and on and on,

1001
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,479
Speaker 1: but we have two episodes left before the finale, so

1002
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: we're dying to know how this season ends for Tasia.

1003
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: I truly, like you know, we try to guess week

1004
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: by week, and like, at this point, I have no

1005
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: clue how it's going to turn out. So next week

1006
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: we're going to be on Monday and Tuesday back to back,

1007
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 1: So please make sure that you're following along and watching

1008
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: with us, yes, and also make sure to keep up

1009
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: with us on social You know where to find us

1010
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: at Bachelor Happy Hour on Instagram or at Batch Happy

1011
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: Hour Spoke in Twitter. And last but not least, you guys,

1012
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: don't forget to subscribe to our podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify,

1013
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: the Wandering App, or wherever you're listening to this right now. Bye, guys,

1014
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: ye