WEBVTT - No Wall, No DACA 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:15.720 Mr garbusch Off teared down this wall. Either you're with 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:19.200 us or you were with the terrorists. If you got 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:21.919 healthcare already, then you can keep your plan. If you 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:25.160 are satisfied with is not. When President of the United 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:28.840 State take it to a bank together, we will make 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:35.159 America great again. We'll never sharend. It's what you've been 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:39.040 waiting for all day. The buck Sexton Show joined the 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:42.959 conversation called buck toll Free at eight four four nine 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:47.280 hundred Buck. That's eight four four nine hundred to eight 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:53.000 to five the future of talk radio. Buck Sexton, the Makers, 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.120 you said that you would be open to signing just 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:58.360 about any immigration deal that that vicar partisan group of 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:01.840 blockmakers said to you. Would you be willing to sign 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:04.840 an immigration deal that ultimately does not include funding for 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.520 the border wall or would that be for you? No, 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:10.319 it's got to include the wall. We need the wall 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.320 for security, we need the wall for safety, we need 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.880 the wall for stopping the drugs from pouring in. I 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.440 would imagine that the people in the room, both Democrat 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:22.520 and Republican, I really believe they're gonna come up with 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:25.200 a solution to the DUCA problem, which has been going 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.440 on for a long time, and maybe beyond that immigration 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:32.000 as a whole. But any solution has to include the wall, 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:37.119 because without the wall, it all doesn't work. Without the wall, 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:40.080 it all doesn't work. Buck Sexton here, thank you so 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:43.920 much for joining me in the Freedom Hut, My friends, colleagues, 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.920 fellow patriots. Good to have you with me. As always, 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:52.279 that was President Trump earlier today. You will note I 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:56.840 I hope that yesterday we're throwing up the panic flag 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:01.360 a little bit because the presidents had a very interesting 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.960 immigration meeting with members of Congress that was televised. We 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:08.920 could see the give and take of the legislative debate 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:12.959 process in action. People are worried because the President said 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.400 it needs to be a bill of love, and he 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:19.480 would be willing to take the heat. But today he's 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:23.639 saying there has to be a wall. And you know what, 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:28.680 if the president gets that wall, think think about the 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:33.239 message that that's gonna send to the base, to the Democrats, 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.959 to the left, everybody. It's gonna show a president who 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:41.320 follows through on not just some promises, but core promises, central, 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:47.000 central to his platform, to his agenda. And wow, that 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:52.560 would be rocket fuel for the rest of the Trump term. 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:56.160 Or terms. As I see it, it would be a 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.359 phenomenal if he manages to get that. So I think 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:03.080 we should take some degree of reassurance from the president's 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:07.040 statements today very clear. I don't know how he could 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:10.640 be more clear about how we're gonna have a wall. Well, 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:15.120 one thing else that was interesting about yesterday didn't really 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:21.360 get enough attention, in my opinion, and that is not 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:25.880 only did the President show and I said this on 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.960 the show yesterday, but show us that it's on Congress right, 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.000 they have to put something in front of him to sign, 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:35.240 and if they come up with nothing, it can't be 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:37.840 all the President didn't lead or whatever. He has said 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:41.440 what the key points are of an immigration deal. He 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:45.600 has made it very straightforward in terms of what he wants, 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:48.640 and now Congress has to get it done and he 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.080 says he will sign it. But there was a secondary 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:55.640 purpose that did not get nearly enough. I think play 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.160 some perhaps caught on a bit later in the game, 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.360 and I just wanted to take a take a ulligan, 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:04.080 take another another shot at this one. Jake Tapper even 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:09.160 over at CNN, if you're wondering if pushing aside those 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.200 concerns was at least partly the point of these on 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:16.920 camera negotiations for the Bill of Love. You're not being cynical, 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.040 You're being correct. And in fact, the Republican National Committee 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:22.679 Rapid Response director sent out this take on the meeting quote. 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:24.719 Many in the media has spent the last week hyper 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:28.559 ventilating over a phony writer's opinions, But the American people 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:32.600 just witnessed President trumpily arguably the most transparent substantive policy 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:37.200 discussion with Congress maybe ever. So this is a very 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.240 important that was tappered CNN. And just because Tapper says 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.840 it doesn't mean it's wrong. He actually was. He made 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:44.640 his name, I will remind you. I mean now he 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:46.839 does a lot of a lot of CNN's bidding and 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.200 a lot of anti Trump stuff. I'm very clear on that. 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:50.919 But he made his name back I think when he 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:55.240 was an ABC reporter by just occasionally asking President Obama's 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.039 White House Press secretary or a bound himself a real question, 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:00.600 not how does it feel to be this artist person 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:02.320 in the history of the world, the most amazing, the 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:06.000 most moral, the most handsome, the most perfect. He would 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:08.600 actually ask occasionally, I'm not saying a lot, you know, 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:10.160 it was once in a while, but he would ask 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:13.560 a real question, Oh Jack Tapper, how could you? But 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:17.520 his point there is worth noting. Or he's really actually 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.720 illustrating or highlighting a point that somebody else made. And 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:25.160 that is one of the effects of yesterday. And look 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.840 this That was a Trump administration decision right to to 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:31.160 televise it in that way, to show it, to bring 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.800 us into the discussion, to bring the American people into 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:38.240 the thick of the immigration debate, with the members of 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.280 Congress there and we're seeing what they're saying, we're seeing 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:44.000 the questions, we're seeing it in real time. Not only 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.359 did it give us a particular window into what is 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:53.320 among the most important policy issues facing this country, it 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.960 is really an existential issue for the United States of 0:05:57.000 --> 0:06:00.559 America in the long term. Forget climate change, this other stuff, 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.000 huge threat immigration. If we don't get this right, the 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:09.240 country changes and not for the better forever. Those are 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.880 the stakes right now of the immigration discussion and debate. 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:19.720 But the secondary component of it was that Trump Trump 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:27.080 was able to smack down this Michael Wolf Fire and 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.320 Fury book. As an aside, there's a book from the 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.760 Second World War, I believe called Fire and Fury that 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:34.400 has shot up to the top of the best seller 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.720 list because people are buying that book. It just happens 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.279 to be called Fire and Fury. That guy has got 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.840 to be psyched, right, That's that's great. You know, all 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.000 of a sudden, the book was published like a decade ago, 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:49.239 people like I need Fire and Furious. You know, something 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.560 about some might even be a great book. I have 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:53.359 no idea, but I think it's battles from the Second 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:59.000 World War. Uh. But by having the press conference, letting 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.719 the American people see how does Trump interact with members 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:03.720 of Congress, How does he run that kind of a meeting? 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:07.160 How does he handle that give and take of debate 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:10.880 and discussion. Any honest person would see that and say 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:15.120 to themselves, hold on a second. This is the president 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:19.160 who's crazy. This is the president who can't string a 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:23.280 string together a sentence. This is the president who has 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.040 no ideas and has no leadership. And all the stuff 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.400 that's in there right is sloppy, insane. Seen all these things, 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:32.200 I mean, all this just junk. They're trying to pile 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.760 in Trump. You watch that meeting yesterday, and not only 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:39.240 did you see what's going on with the immigration policy debate. 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.880 But you saw the President United States in action in 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:48.360 a way that just blows to smithereens this whole narrative 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.280 of the book fire and fury. So it was a 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:56.920 two for It was a double whammy. This is what 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:00.480 Trump has to do. This is what this admitted station 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:05.600 must continue to do, and that is to get around 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:10.720 or defeat the naysayers. Yes, as Trump puts it, the haters, 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:16.360 the liars, the fake news, all of that with success, 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:22.720 with results. The economy already is and you see it 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:26.080 with all these different metrics, and you've got titans of 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:29.720 industry and many of the smartest people on Wall Street, 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:34.240 in manufacturing sector, in the entrepreneurial world. They're all saying, look, 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.800 I don't even like Trump. I don't even like Trump's 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:41.520 policies on X, Y or z outside of the economy. Right, 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.760 maybe they disagree with them on this or that, but 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:48.679 on but when it comes to economic optimism and the 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:53.880 markets and hiring and wages, and which was also central, 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:56.720 all of that was central to the Trump message, which 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:58.520 is that the you know, the forgotten men and women 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:03.040 of this country in these differ sectors, competing with offshoring 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:07.040 of jobs, competing with the importation of cheap illegal foreign labor. 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:10.600 All of that, stagnant wages and a sense that you 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:16.840 can't get ahead. Trump is so far following through on 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:20.720 those promises and doing it with results, not just words, 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.920 not just a lot of you know, a lot of 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:26.160 jaw jaw, a lot of you know yadida talking about stuff. No, 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:31.320 Trump is making it happen. This is why I don't 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:34.200 get to spun up. I don't get we used to 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:36.600 say people would say the bureaucracy, you know, it gives 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:42.320 me heartburn, um, but I don't get over uh over anxious. 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.440 I don't get upset. I don't get wrapped around the 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.199 axle when Trump tweets something that I'm like, well, I 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.240 don't really know what he's I wouldn't have done that. 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:53.640 But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And also, all 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:55.840 these people who have been so desperate to make you 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.320 think that it matters in the media and elsewhere. Maybe 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:00.839 they're your neighbors, maybe they're people see at work or 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:04.840 the people you see on TV. They're wrong. They've been 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:08.480 wrong so far, and it's one of the reasons that 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:12.000 I think we've we've begun to see a phenomenon that 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.480 will continue to play out, which is that the more 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.280 this is crazy, I know, but just stay with me 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:21.920 on it, the more successful this presidency is. And I 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.440 don't mean in rhetorical terms. I don't mean in slapping 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.400 down the fake news, as much as I love that, 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.920 and it is a fantastic spectator sport, and I try 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.640 to do my fair share of bucks slaps here as well. 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:35.600 I try to, you know, make sure that we hold 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:40.000 these different media entities to account and give them a 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:41.720 free ride on the school bus once in a while. 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.760 But the more successful Trump is, the more they will 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:50.040 hate him. Because the more successful he is, the more 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:53.800 obvious it becomes to anybody who has had any doubts 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:58.840 that they've been lying about this administration. They've been stacking 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.680 the deck against him. They've been doing everything in their 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:06.319 power to prevent the very successes that are just beginning, 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:13.600 just beginning to become irrefutable, strong market, strong economy regular 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:15.680 I'm gonna talk to you about regulations later in the show. 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:19.760 People are becoming believers, you know, And it's kind of 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:23.040 amazing that it's taken this long in a sense, because 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.080 the regulatory environment of the obamaministration was in. You're gonna 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:31.440 talk about insanity. It was insane. And you know, whether 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.600 you agree with Trump or not, whether you know, whether 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.000 you're somebody that likes the tweeting hates the tweeting. If 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:38.559 you're trying to run a small business and all of 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:42.400 a sudden you don't have to spend dozens of hours 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:46.080 and thousands or tens of thousands of dollars complying with 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:51.839 with completely bizarre, useless owners federal regulations, you start to think, 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.959 maybe this Trump guys onto something, Maybe he's got something 0:11:55.000 --> 0:12:00.360 going here. It is all about results, it's all about 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:04.080 doing things that benefit the American people. And what as 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:05.960 I said, it will be amazing to watch it play 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.079 out because the bed the more successful Trump is, the 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.280 louder they'll squream about Russia, the louder they will yell 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.360 about how he's needs to be taken out of office 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.199 by the twenty five amendment. I mean, they won't quit, 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:23.160 they will not stop. And that's why the only response 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:28.280 that Trump can and will have is the courage of 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:32.040 his convictions and the implementation of an agenda that we're 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:36.520 already saying it is already working. But immigration, immigration, is key, 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.440 and we can't take the pressure off, can't take the 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.840 heat off here, presidents at a wall today, I'm hearing 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.720 things about a wall in you know, within ten years 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:50.240 we'll have a seven miles Okay, I mean, let's let's 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.599 get the first hundred on the books. A S A P. 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:54.720 You know, I don't want this to be Yeah, we're 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:56.160 gonna have a wall, but by the time we have 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:58.199 a wall, everybody's gonna have a jet pack, because then 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:00.200 a wall won't won't really be that useful. You know. 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.360 If it's like the future of the jetsins where people 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.520 can fly around and little flying cars or jet packs 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:07.360 or whatever they've got everywhere, a wall is not gonna 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.440 be as good. Okay, we can't wait fifty years for 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.800 a wall. Need a wall to start now, so we'll 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:18.320 talk more about that. And also the most I can't 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.760 even say it. It's tough with superlatives because the left 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:24.800 is so dishonest, unfair and crazy, particularly when it comes 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.319 to dealing with this White House and dealing with the 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.280 Republican Party right now, that to say it's the craziest 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:34.880 judicial decision ever or the craziest judicial decision ever under Trump, 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.280 I mean, I'm not sure, but it's close. It's close 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:43.840 to the worst court decisions mandating a federal judge in 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:46.400 California has been. This just came out today I read. 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.679 The first thing I did this morning is probably why 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.560 I threw my neck out. I was so annoyed I 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.600 did of my neck is killing me right now. But 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:55.920 first thing I did today, and I like a lie, 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:57.520 I did it in better read through on my phone 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:01.520 forty nine pages of a decision from a circuit court 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:06.040 judge in California, where the short version I'll get into 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:07.840 a longer version with you in a few minutes because 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.160 it's worth exploring at But the short word version is 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:15.760 one judge thinks that he can usurp the executive branch 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:21.760 chiefs prerogative can essentially tell him how to use his discretion. 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.760 Some judge in California is telling Trump this is your call, 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:27.600 and this is how you're gonna make the call when 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:32.600 it comes to immigration, specifically to DACA. I'll work, I'll 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:34.840 talk you through, we'll go through the details. It's important 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:38.120 at all. But it's just hashtag resistance, resistance. Pardon me, 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:43.560 hashtag resistance, never Trump nonsense from yet another judge out 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.720 on the left coast. We'll get into that packed show today. 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:48.840 My friends a lot I want to talk to you about, 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:50.920 but also want to hear from you two of course 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.240 eight four or four to eight to five, eight four 0:14:54.360 --> 0:15:01.880 four nine, Buck, I'll be right back their instances. Look 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:03.840 at what happened in Israel. They put up the wall. 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:07.200 They sailed solved the very major problem. We need the wall. 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.840 We have to have the wall for security purposes, securities 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:13.840 number one, and so the answers have to have the wall. 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:17.040 Thank you. I have to have the wall, Presidents, making 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.080 it very clear, Bucks accent back with you here on 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.480 the Buck Sexton Show. We wanted to take some of 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.640 your calls before we get our next guest coming up. 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:29.360 Who's going to be the acting Director of Immigrations and 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.880 Customs Enforcement. We got him joining us on the show. 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:38.120 Director Homan will be with us, Thomas Homan, and can 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:40.800 tell us about what's the reality right now of illegal 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:44.800 immigrants crossing into the country, crossings in the country, also 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:48.280 workplace enforcement, a bunch of raids at seven elevens across 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.680 the country. We got the guy at the top of 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:55.880 the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement Agency of the United States 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:57.440 to join us here in just a few minutes to 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:59.600 address that. So he'll give us a real view of 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.440 what's what's the ground truth of all this, right, what's 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:06.200 really happening out there, so we can factor that in 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:10.160 when we're talking about Trump and immigration everything's doing. But 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.560 he noted there with Israel that that also came from 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:15.920 a press con or some questions with the press were 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:22.160 able to pose earlier today. And yeah, Israel, I mean 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.360 I remembered I was actually spending a lot of time 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:28.600 studying Israel and Israeli Palestinian issues at the time I 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:30.480 was in school, but I had I've been working at 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.000 a Midi stink tank and working on that issue specifically 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.200 was very much front of mind. And Israel had a 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:41.840 terrible time with suicide bombers and other Palestinian terrorists who 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.960 were coming in the country and just wreaking havoc and carnage, 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.680 and it was terrible. They built a wall and it 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:51.240 stopped it just And I'm not saying that was the 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:55.280 only thing. Israel has a tremendous security service beyond just 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.760 the wall, right, But no one saying the wall would 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:00.520 be the only thing either, But it helped whole hell 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:05.600 of a lot. We'll talk to our acting Immigrations and 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.399 Customs Enforcement head in just a few moments here, so 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:11.840 stay with me for that. Tim in Ohio, Welcome to 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:18.399 the Buck Sexton Show. Listen. First, before we get the immigration, 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.920 I want to tell you a few comments about your 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:25.480 Shields High episode. Oh sure. I played the Charles Mantel 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:29.640 and the Day of podcast for the guys in the 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.199 show on the other day and everybody loved it. We 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:38.440 had a we Gotta we gone after and everybody loved 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:42.640 it there. So my question is, well, thank you. I'm 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:46.000 coming out the next was coming out on Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday, 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.040 my friend this Monday, next Monday. Get into it. You 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:53.720 gotta subscribe iTunes. Oh well, yeah, I'm we're listening. I 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.160 appreciate it. But I had to throw a plug in there. Tim. 0:17:56.200 --> 0:18:00.320 You know it goes. Oh we lost him on Habben. 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.320 We're having so much fun with Tim and he We 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:06.280 didn't drop him, did we. You guys just felt like 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.000 he was saying too many nice things. You just didn't 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:09.320 want me to get a swelled head. I know how 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.880 it is, you know, I do my little history podcast. 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:13.600 It starts blowing up all of a sudden, Everyone's like, hey, 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.800 keep your feet on the ground. Sexton. No, sorry, I 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.200 don't know what happened there. Apologies Tim from Ohio. We 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.760 just lost you there for a second. And in Virginia 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:22.360 we got about a minute. But we want to get 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:27.920 you in. What's up man, Good evening, Mr Sexton. As 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.880 I wait with helplicating hurt and guesting breath for your 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:36.160 show every night, I just have to tell you that 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:40.800 you're intro is fabulous. You know, it's timeless. It works 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:44.640 all the time. The show intro for this show, okay, cool? 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:47.280 You know you know I can tell you this. I 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:53.240 actually I actually built that show intro myself. I'm serious. Yeah, 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.080 I'm a man of many talents. And but thank you 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.399 for all your support of the show and Shields High. 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:03.960 Thank you so much. Thank you and appreciate it. Bye bye. Um. 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:08.160 So there we have it. Uh, we've got like I said, 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:11.440 we're gonna talk more about immigration. What is the state 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.160 of legal immigration into the country right now? Can we 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:18.600 enforce certain aspects of the law. Well, the answers yes, obviously, 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.600 much better than we do. I've also got this decision 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.560 from a court out in California. I read through. I 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:27.119 don't know how many other hosts on TV or radio 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.440 could say this, but I read through the entire thing 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:32.240 because I do my own stuff. I read it all. 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:36.159 I'll tell you about it. It is. It is a giant, steaming, 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:41.080 tri Sarah Tops sized pile of poop. It is terrible. 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:45.400 It is the worst legal analysis you will see out 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:47.199 of California in a long time. We'll get into that, 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:52.320 so stay with Themigoration top of the news cycle today, 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:55.760 and we're very fortunate to be joined by Acting ICE 0:19:55.880 --> 0:20:00.679 Director Thomas Holman, who is with us now on the line. Thomas, 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:02.919 thank you so much for calling in. Thank you for 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.600 having me, sir. Uh First, all right, talk to me 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:10.720 a bit about your your reaction to this court ruling 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:16.040 that's just effectively telling the Trump administration that they have 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:20.520 to act a certain way when it comes to presidential discretion. Look, 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:23.080 there's there's so many liberal court rulings out there right 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.960 now that hamper what we're trying to do. I mean, 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:28.159 I got court ruins out there that don't let me 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.840 remove people that committed serious crimes to this country. I 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:32.960 got court rulings that tell me how long I can 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:36.200 detain somebody. I mean, this is when when this whole 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:39.399 docutor session discussion started, we sent a list of policy 0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:41.919 and legislative changes up on the hill. There can't be 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:43.800 a clean doctor, but we need fixed. We need to 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:45.960 fix this system or we're gonna have a doctor discussion 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:48.720 ten years from now. Let's finally fix this system, overturn 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:51.760 some of these judicial decisions, and and make sense of 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:54.240 what we're doing. Use the analogy at a few minutes 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:56.320 going on another interview. You know, if you got a 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:58.239 leaky tire, you can put air in that tire every day. 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:01.040 You can fix the tire. Let's fix this tire. Let's 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:04.520 finally fix immigration. This president, under his leadership, we got 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:06.680 we had a forty five year LOLd and the illegal 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:10.920 immigration crossings. We're on the right trail. Let us, let 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:13.440 us fix us. Let us make these changes to fix 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:15.920 the problem once for for all. So you know, if 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:18.040 you want to have a doctor deal, then you've got 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:20.200 to fix underlying problems with We can't do a clean 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:22.240 doctor deal that. We we need a wall, we need 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:24.520 inter your enforcement. We need to be able to remove 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:27.080 people that violate the loss this country. We need some 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:29.800 of these court decisions overturned. We need to be able 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:32.199 to do our job and protect this country. Tell me 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:35.320 about these UH, you're the acting Director of Immigrations and 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:39.399 Customs Enforcement. What were these raids? What happened? Here's some 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:44.720 reporting today about seven elevens nationwide UH targeted in anti 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:48.359 illegal immigration employment rates. Well, like I said, when I 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:51.320 became a director, I gave a commitment, we're gonna we're 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.040 gonna step up work site enforcement. It's against the law 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:56.320 to her and he go ailing to work. UH. And 0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:59.280 it's as an as an enticement to for the immigration people. 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:01.080 You know they're going to if they're lucky enough to 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:02.760 get by the bordatrow. They're come here to work. They're 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:04.760 coming here to make money, they're coming here to be 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:07.159 with family. We got to take that magnet away. Is 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:09.080 against the law of heart illegal amilies. That we're going 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:12.520 to force a law that for increase in those investigations 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:15.359 this year. This is a nationwide investigation. We're gonna hit 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:18.360 small companies, gonna hit big companies, go minium sized companies. 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:20.480 We're going to enforce law. We need to. We need 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:23.879 to remove that magnet that just infices more illegal immigration, 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:26.200 more people guy could try to come to this country 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:28.639 and work more BORD relations. We put at risk, more 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:31.240 of my officers put at risk for immigration. This is 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:33.760 one piece of the puzzle that we have to fix 0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:36.760 to to really fix the border problem and secure that border. 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:40.240 Director Holman, is the Trump administration committed to e verify 0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:43.800 as part of the package for this immigration negotiation currently, 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:46.399 and what can you tell us about the effectiveness of 0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:49.399 e verifying? Well, look, I I know that part of 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:52.000 our policy request. You know, there's a store A few 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:55.040 weeks ago, you know, myself to Bord Patrol at CBP 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:57.280