1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off right now, and 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: we've got VP discussion in the air. Let's start with this. 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 1: Who is not going to be the VP? Well, you 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: may have seen because there are a couple, we can 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: cross them off the list. There have been a couple. 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: I think it's unlikely that you're going to see this change, 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: although with Trump you never know. We had discussed previously 8 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: another vice presidential possibility here a governor of a state 9 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: that is not North Dakota but sounds similar to North Dakota. 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: Who's unlikely to be the VP now, I think, But 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: that could change and we don't want to waste any 12 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: time on that. Today. We have Doug Bergham coming up 13 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: over the weekend as a very real contender of this. 14 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: So the governor of North Dakota, the Dakota with the oil. 15 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: We will have a conversation about that. But NICKI Haley 16 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: and I felt badly because you know, Clay's on vacation, 17 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: he'll be back tomorrow. I felt badly because I texted 18 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: about this, as I said, buddy, if you end up 19 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: correct on this one, this would be quite a call 20 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: to make, and that I don't know. Look to be clear, 21 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: this didn't last very long. Nicki Haley. There was a 22 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: report I think it was an axios. Yeah, it was 23 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: an axios where it came out that someone close to 24 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: Trump had said Nicki Haley was under consideration. That was 25 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: quickly shot down, shot down rapidly by Trump himself. So 26 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: I think I think we can say it is unlikely 27 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump is going to decide to go against 28 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: what he himself had said about Nicki Haley as VP, 29 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: and I just I don't see that. I think too 30 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: many people have too much frustration with Nicky Haley after 31 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: the way that she ran her campaign and the way 32 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: that she went after Donald Trump. So I don't see 33 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: that when happening. But there was a report over the 34 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: weekend Nicky Haley maybe the VP, and Trump immediately said 35 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: there's absolutely no way that that is going to happen. 36 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: So she is I think officially off the list. She 37 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: is officially off the list, and I think that we 38 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: can also look now at another person who was off 39 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: the list. 40 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: R F. 41 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: I was trying to find Trump's truth where he said 42 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be Nicky Haley. It doesn't really matter. 43 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: She's off the list. R F. K oh here we go. 44 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: Here I have it. Nicki Haley is not under consideration 45 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: for the VP slot, but I wish her well. Very nice, 46 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: very nice from Trump. Magnanimous on that one. It's not 47 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: gonna be Nicki Haley buddy, which is here. Well, okay, 48 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: that's nice. Now we have RFK Junior. I understand that 49 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: there have been going for a long time now. There 50 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: have been people on the right who have thought that 51 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: there was this RFK Trump unity ticket. And I'm always 52 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: honest with all of you, so I have always said 53 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: that I think that RFK is a Democrat, which means 54 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: you cannot trust him, which turned out I think to 55 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: be good, a good place to be on this issue. 56 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: He is good on COVID, Fetterman is good on Israel. 57 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: Do I want Fetterman to be the vice president? No. 58 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: This is what Trump said over the weekend about our 59 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: FK Junior. I think you should You should hear this. 60 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: This is cut seven Trump giving one of his video speeches. Uh, 61 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: listen to this. 62 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: RFK Junior is a Democrat plant, a radical left liberal 63 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: who's been put in place in order to help Crooked 64 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: Joe Biden, the worst president and the history of the 65 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: United States. Get re elected. 66 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: A lot of. 67 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: People think that Junior is a conservative. 68 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: He's not. 69 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: He's more liberal than anybody running on the Democrats side. 70 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: A vote for Junior would essentially be a wasted protest 71 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: vote that could swing either way, but would only swing 72 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: against the Democrats if Republicans knew the true story about him. 73 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: Junior is totally anti gun, an extreme environmentalist who makes 74 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: the green news scammers look very conservative by comparison, A 75 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: big time taxer, he wants to tax you, an open 76 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: border advocate, he wants those borders to be wide open 77 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: for more people to come in from prisons and mental institutions. 78 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: And he's anti militariat, he's anti vet. He's an extreme liberal. 79 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: He's radical left and radicalized. Also are his family. They'll 80 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: never allow him to be a Republican. They've said that 81 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: we will not let him be a Republican. And his 82 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 2: chief funder is the VP candidate that nobody ever heard 83 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: of except a X husband who's been stripped of a 84 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: big chunk of his cashixed. 85 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: That's right, he was referencing the divorce settlement at the 86 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: end there. That's about as big of a Trump body 87 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: slam As, I think you're gonna hear anywhere about anyone. 88 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: Now you can say, well, it's just the general election, 89 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: and you know this is how Trump does things. He fights. Yeah, 90 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: but remember there has been this ongoing argument that RFK 91 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: Junior will take more votes from Biden than he will 92 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: from Trump. Do we think that he would be attacking 93 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: RFK Junior in this way if he really believed that 94 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: to be true. Keep in mind, they still have to 95 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: figure out all their ballot access issues. And now you 96 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: could say, well, if he convinces all Republicans not to 97 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: vote for FK Junior, and some Democrats still vote for 98 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: FK Junior, that's the best possible outcome. I understand that. 99 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: But to me, this is an indicator that there is 100 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: concern currently that there would be more Republicans who would 101 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: leave Trump for RFK Junior than there are Democrats who 102 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: would leave Biden, or perhaps a better way of putting it, 103 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: in the Key States, RFK Junior could be more of 104 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: a benefit to Biden than he is to Trump. But 105 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: did you hear all that? That was really I had 106 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: never heard Trump go after, honestly, any of his primary 107 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: opponents like that. Maybe you could say it's because he 108 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: just brushed them off and it didn't even matter. That 109 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: would be a fair point to make. But he really 110 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: was hammering him, basically saying RFK Junior is a huge 111 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: limousine liberal, you know, you know, a big climate change nut, 112 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: open borders guy. He was hammering him. And in case 113 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: you again, this is Trump, I'm playing Trump's words for you. 114 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: I want you to hear this. I'm I'm the messenger here. Okay, 115 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: don't be mad at the messenger for anyone who loves 116 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: RFK Junior as VP, I'm just telling you where Trump 117 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,239 Speaker 1: is on this now, all right, you got a problem, 118 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: send your emails to send your emails to Trump had 119 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: him a truth on truth social and say, but RFK Jr. 120 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: Is great. This is him. To make the point really 121 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: clear for everyone, this is Donald Trump saying that you're 122 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: ready for it. He would rather Biden be president that 123 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: RFK Junior play it. 124 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: I'd even take Biden over Junior because our country would 125 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: last about a year or two longer than it would 126 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: with JR. It would collapse almost immediately, and his family, 127 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: a radical left, a crazy left, a bunch of lunatics 128 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: would take over and our country will die very quickly. 129 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: So rfk's views on vaccines are fake, as is everything 130 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: else about his candidacy. 131 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: He is not a. 132 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: Republican, so don't think you're going to vote for him 133 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: and feel good. He's a radical left Democrat. Let the 134 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: Democrats have RFK Junior. They deserve him. 135 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: Wow, this is I'm playing video of Trump. This was 136 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: a prepared statement. He'd just put this out. He would 137 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: rather Biden win than RFK Junior be president. So let 138 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: it be known for anyone is saying I think that 139 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: I think that Trump maybe's gonna pick RFK Junior. I 140 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: don't think so, and I think he's right. I've seen 141 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: this all along. I don't know how RFK Junior was able. 142 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: He's only been on our show once we checked this. 143 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: I didn't get to interview him. I was sick or traveling, 144 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: I forget, so Clay handled that interview. I always was 145 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: skeptical of this guy. Why he's a Democrat and he's 146 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: a Kennedy okay to me. You know, it's like we're 147 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: all sitting there in the you know, in the in 148 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: the chicken coop together and you guys, some of you 149 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: were like, hey, this guy, he's a fox, but you 150 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: know he says he's not gonna be a bad fox 151 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: this time. I'm like, I think we kind of know 152 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: what's going on here. I think we we want to 153 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: keep him, you know, at at arm's length from from power, 154 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: you know. And and Trump Peoven said he's fake on vaccines, 155 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: which to me is wow, maybe he's trying to argue 156 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: that at least on COVID. It's it's something that RFK 157 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: Junior is doing that is opportunistic as opposed to principled. Okay, 158 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: all I'm saying is you hear all that. I want 159 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: to open the lines on this too. Are any of 160 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: you surprised? Do do you agree? I want to I 161 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: don't just want people going to call it and say that, 162 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: oh no, Trump still likes him and he's still great. 163 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: RFK Junior's great, and this is just in the general election. 164 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: Well here's some of that. I'm sure if you want 165 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: to call on and talk about that. I'm wondering if 166 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: any of you agree with Trump on this one. You're like, 167 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: finally someone's saying it, because that's kind of how I feel. 168 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: Obviously sort of felt that way the whole time. We've 169 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: played good soundbites from RFK Junior on COVID stuff we've played. 170 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: He even said a couple of good things on the border, 171 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: although it was there wasn't a lot on that, but 172 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: on everything else. I was like, so if your pro 173 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: life disaster, he wants abortion all nine months of a pregnancy, 174 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: which he said. When I share that clip somebody, I 175 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: had some people on the right, at least ostensibly saying, well, 176 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, what's the context. There's no context needed for 177 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: I think you're going to board a baby in the 178 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: ninth month just because you want to, which is what 179 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: he said. There's no there's no context for that. Right, 180 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: it's not all but he said it in a way 181 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: that no. Sorry. Now onto the happy side of the equation. 182 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Doug burgham surging in the markets. We got any big 183 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: Dougie Bee fans out there, I want to hear from 184 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: you. You think Dougie B is the guy. I don't know 185 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: if anyone else called him doug ee b but me, 186 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: But is he your man? It's a billionaire understands business 187 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: has worked in the private sector, came off well in 188 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: some of the Republican primary debates. I got to go 189 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: back and look at all of his issues, but again, 190 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: as a VP, he wouldn't have the portfolio of everything necessarily, 191 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: although he'd have to be ready for that. As president, 192 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: he could really probably focus in on the business, you know, 193 00:10:55,679 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: the business community, the economy, have some real background and 194 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: understanding of it. I mean, this is one of the reasons, 195 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: like we like Eric Hovedy so much running for sen 196 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin. People that know how the economy actually works 197 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: know more about the economy than people who have been 198 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: getting a check from the public sector their entire life. 199 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: It's just a fact. So we like people that have 200 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: had to operate in the private sector, and especially if 201 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: they have a track record of considerable success in the 202 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: private sector, that's meaningful. It's so funny, isn't we think? 203 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: All these people, you have, all these people like Joe Biden, 204 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: they go to whatever law school and they don't even 205 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: really practice law, and then they just want to run 206 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: to DC as fast as possible and just be little, 207 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, piglets at the power trough as fast as possible. 208 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: That's it, and that's their whole life, that's their whole purpose. 209 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: I don't like that. I don't think that's a good way. 210 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:49,599 Speaker 1: Doug Bergham is currently in the Where's Clay when I 211 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: need him talking. Betting markets is currently number one along 212 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: with the Tim Scott. They're tied Tim Scott and Doug 213 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: Bergham top of the VP betting right now. Either one 214 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: of those wud be fine choices. Again, I've for me, 215 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: it's more just avoiding a disastrous VP choice than anything else. 216 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: I think it's important that we, as the community here 217 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: on the right have these discussions out in the open. 218 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: I don't want a disaster as VP, because that's that's 219 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: not a good thing. I think as long as we 220 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: have somebody who's good enough, that's fine. And Tim Scott 221 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: is good enough, maybe great. Who knows Doug Bergham good enough? 222 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: Maybe great? JD Van's same thing, elist dephonic, impressive, impressive, lady, 223 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: a little liberal for me on some things, but certainly 224 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't be a disaster. I think would bring some interesting 225 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: components to it. I don't see it being at least defining. 226 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: I don't even think. I don't think it's gonna be 227 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: a woman, guys. I know people have been saying that, 228 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think it's gonna be a woman 229 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: to VP. I just I don't see Trump doing that. 230 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: I could totally end up eating my words on this one. Understand, 231 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: trying to predict Trump is I mean, this is truly 232 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: being a the Roulett wheel or something. I mean, you 233 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: know who knows, right, trying to predict a Trump move 234 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: is usually a fool's errand, but I don't think it's 235 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: going to be a woman. So I want to open 236 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: this up. If you have strong opinions on the RFK 237 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: junior clips, I just played for you Trump talking about him, 238 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, yay or nay, pro or con. I'm curious 239 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: about that. Also, Doug Bergham, what do you think of 240 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: him as a surging VP option? I like it, to 241 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: be honest with you, you know, I've been I've been 242 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: saying I think it will be jd Vance And I 243 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: like jd Vance as a as a leader, as a politician, 244 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: but I think Doug Bergram would be solid. Tim Scott 245 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: obviously is a good guy, solid guy. So you know 246 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: there's there's some good things, good folks in the mix here. 247 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: Let's hear from you eight hundred two A two two 248 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: eight A two. If you have strong I want strong 249 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: opinions on who should or should not be VP of 250 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: the ones we've talked about Stephanic. Any of you New 251 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: Yorkers have more insight on Stephanic. Member, if you live 252 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: in a place where you're represented by a governor, a senator, 253 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: or a congressman, you're probably gonna know more. Is a 254 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: lot of them running around, right, You're gonna know more 255 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: about the history and background of that than it's gonna 256 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: be possible for somebody like me he us to cover 257 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: all the territory all the time. So I'd love to 258 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: hear from some of you on those options and those possibilities. Remember, 259 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: we got center Marco Rubio third Hour will be joining 260 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: us here on the program. And I also want to 261 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: get back into the latest from the Trump trial. More 262 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: coming out, catch and kill stories, porn star payoffs. It's 263 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: not working the way they thought it would now. Switching gears, 264 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: my friends, if you are looking for a quality firearm 265 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: at an unbeatable price, Bear Creek Arsenal is the name 266 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: you've got to know. 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Some people at least are are getting 295 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: fired up over the possibility of Burghram. Can we get 296 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: some some of our North Dakota folks calling me. We're 297 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: on KF y r A m and Bismarck k r 298 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: r z a m uh in North Dakota as well, 299 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: So we we've got to I've got some stations in 300 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: North Dakota if you're listening up there and you got 301 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: thoughts on on Doug Bergram as VP. Remember he's now 302 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: top of the chart for the Trump picks according to 303 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: the betting markets, him and Tim Scott side by side 304 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: of that one. But I gotta say, like Daniel Horowitz 305 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: what I follow or know from from Twitter, I'm just 306 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: gonna give you a quick rundown of some of what 307 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: he's saying about because it's just got sent to me 308 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: by a friend. Sed you might want to see this, Buck, 309 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: I said, Look, I don't. I don't know. It's not 310 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: like Michael Bolton. I don't celebrate his whole catalog for 311 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: the office fans out there, office space space fans. I 312 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: don't know that much about Burgham by you know, way 313 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: of all of his policies. Right, it's a lot of governors. 314 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: But Daniel Horowitz says, the only reason Burgham didn't run 315 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: as a Democrat is because a Democrat couldn't get elected 316 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: in North Dakota, so he purchased the government governorship as 317 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: a fake Republican. You know, I'm quoting here from Daniel Horowitz. 318 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: He wrote, he pushed COVID fascism in vaccines, veto to 319 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: bill on transgender pronouns, veto to bill prohibiting men in 320 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: female sports, grew the budget every year, promotes Agenda twenty 321 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: thirty carbon neutral nonsense. Yikes, that stuff's not good. We 322 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: need some Doug Burgham clarity here. We're gonna to invite 323 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: him on the show now too. But light us up 324 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: on the lines. Let us know what you think. You know, 325 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: my friends, I watched a new documentary last week called 326 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: America's Last Election. Yeah, this is something you got to watch. 327 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: It's produced by my longtime friend the legendary economist Porter Stansbury. 328 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: For the last twenty five years, Porter's predicted almost every 329 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: major economic and financial move in both directions. 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This gap, the 346 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: disparity is only going to get worse in time between 347 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: a Joe Biden who every time he now appears on 348 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: camera and people see it, there's this sense of, oh 349 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 1: my gosh, what's going to happen now, there's a lot 350 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: of expectation already built into that. It's not like Joe 351 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: Biden was really vigorous and you know, energetic and sharp 352 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: a year ago. We've watched this decline happening. But you're 353 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: going to see Trump able to campaign. It's almost like 354 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: he's running the race with you know, a weight pack on, 355 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: or with you know, an eighty pound pack on or something. 356 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: So he's having to run this race, this political race, 357 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 1: with all of these additional constraints and conditions that on 358 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: the other side of things, Joe Biden is being carried effectively. 359 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: So you got one guy who has to campaign under 360 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: the worst possible conditions of any president's certainly in memory 361 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: right where you have. I mean, I'd have to go 362 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: back a long way to think of somebody who's had 363 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: to do something like campaign while they're in office while 364 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: they're being tried rather for a crime. And on the 365 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: other side, you're going to have a Joe Biden who 366 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: isn't even going to be campaigning. Really, They're going to 367 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: be hiding him, and so they're going to have to 368 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: coddle him, and the media narrative around him is all 369 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: going to be a creation, right, the media narrative around 370 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: why Joe Biden should win. And this brings me back 371 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: to that poll I mentioned where only five percent of 372 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: people think the most important memory of Trump is January sixth. 373 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: This is faded. People realize it's about who's better at 374 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: being president. It's about being able to afford your mortgage 375 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: for your groceries. You can get a job that you 376 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: actually want to have, or you can make the kind 377 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: of money you should be making, you know, not being 378 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: entangled in more wars. That's what it should be about. 379 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: Not Oh, you know, CNN told me that the end 380 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: of democracy is near. 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Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and 409 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: they do a lot of it with the Sunday Hang 410 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: Join Clay and Buck as they laugh it up in 411 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: the Clay and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app 412 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your potdcas. Welcome back into Clay Inbox. 413 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: Sorry about some of the little technical issues we've had before. 414 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: There for a second, take it all squared away. See, 415 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: maybe we'll wait till the next hour to take phone 416 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: calls because we got Cenator, Mark or Rubio coming up 417 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: here shortly and we want to be all squared away 418 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: for that. I want to tell you there is quite 419 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: an exchange that was going on online with JK. Rolling. 420 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: I believe that is the connect pronunciation JK. Rolling, as 421 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: opposed to well, the other way of saying her name. 422 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: Who has become one of the staunchest defenders of the 423 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: existence of gender, of sex whatever, of male female, of 424 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: the male female binary. Honestly in the whole world, she's 425 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: I think the first billionaire author, at least becoming a 426 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: billionaire from her books in history. I think that's right, 427 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: wildly successful author of the Harry Potter series. As you 428 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: all know, I remember when I was in Scotland in Edinburgh, 429 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: which I still think is one of the most charming 430 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: little cities of all Europe. Honestly, Edinburgh is a great, 431 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: great city, great food. I really liked it a lot. 432 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: They pointed out on one of those hop on, hop 433 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: off tours, like this is the cafe. It's like, it's 434 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: not a Starbucks, but it's like a little cafe. This 435 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: is the cafe where JK. Rowling wrote her books. Anyway, 436 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: she's a staunch defender of the gender binary, does a 437 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: very good job of just refusing to back down on this. 438 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: And it's getting crazy in the UK with this, and 439 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: it's just a harbinger of things to come for us here. 440 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: It's already here in some ways. It's just they move 441 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: a little faster in Canada and in Europe because they 442 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: have no real free speech provisions. That's why the First 443 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: Amendment is so important here. If the First Amendment truly goes, 444 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: I mean, if you were able to just legally excise 445 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: the First Amendment from the Constitution, and I know it 446 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: also includes the religious components and of religious worship, but 447 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: just in terms of free speech, uh, we would be 448 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: on a on a virtual conveyor belt towards tyranny. I 449 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: mean it would change, It would change the political discourse 450 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: and our society so rapidly that it would blow your mind. Okay, 451 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: So with that going on, JK. Rowling refuses to back down. 452 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: And I've said this, uh constantly. I've said this constantly, 453 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: Uh that they want you to They want to use 454 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: your decency as a way of attacking you. They wanted 455 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: they wanted to say, Oh, it's about courtesy, it's about manners. 456 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: You have to go along with a delusion because otherwise 457 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: you're being mean. Now that's absurd, because it's a lot 458 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: more than just a courtesy. It's about policy, it's it's 459 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: about truth, it's about our society. This is the exchange 460 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: between Rolling and Jonathan Chad, who's a New York magazine writer. 461 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,719 Speaker 1: He wrote the following, Uh, just call people what they 462 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: want to be called. It's basic decency, classic lib talking 463 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: point online here, Rolling Rights. Stop telling women what they're 464 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: allowed to say, Jonathan, it's basic decency. Yeah, look at 465 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: how quickly you can turn that around. You're demanding that 466 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: I say something I don't want to say, and you 467 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: want to tell me what decency is. You're demanding that 468 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: I lie, and you want to tell me who the 469 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: decency is. Then some guy land in best I don't 470 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: know if this is a famous person on the left 471 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: or something or not. He's got a blue check mark, says, 472 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: you keep telling trans women that they're not allowed to 473 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: call themselves women even though they are. Stop telling women 474 00:26:54,920 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: what they're allowed to say. JK, it's basic decency, repeats 475 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: the talking point, repeats the talk This is the way 476 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: that that now they've lost on the science. We've seen. 477 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: There were some video recently of a you know, male 478 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: to quote female transition runner who just smoked all the 479 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: female runners. I mean, it wasn't even close. It looked 480 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: like a high school kid running against a bunch of toddlers. 481 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: It was absurd. So we can all see this, we 482 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: all understand what the reality, the biological, physical, observable reality 483 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: of this is. And yet they turn around and say 484 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: it's basic decency. That's an issue. Well, JK is not done. 485 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: Misrolling responds to the repetition of the basic decency talking point, 486 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: which is very common on the left. It really is 487 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: their fallback to just say that preferred pronoun to be nice. Well, 488 00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: it's about being nice? Are you going to use the 489 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: four or are you gonna fire me? 490 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 2: You know? 491 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: Are you gonna get the state to arrest me? But 492 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna tell me it's about being nice. You're gonna 493 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna try to take you know, action against me. 494 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: If I don't do the thing that you say is 495 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: about about being nice. If I don't say please or 496 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: thank you, the state doesn't come after me. But that's 497 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: about being polite, too, isn't it. I do say please 498 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: and thank you? By the way, very important. I'm a 499 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: big proponent of manners rolling rights. Does this apply to 500 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 1: any other demographic landing? Do I get to be black 501 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: if I like Motown and fancy myself in Cornrows? What 502 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: if I claim the authentic me has always been black 503 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: and that you are being racist to me? Would that 504 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: be okay? Or would you find it ludicrous and deeply offensive? 505 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: Check mate? Someone explain the difference is what exactly? We 506 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: know that there are people who who have identified they 507 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: they identify as another And I don't just mean that 508 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: as a fraud. In the way that Elizabeth Warren did 509 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: to pretend she was the Native American to get into school, 510 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: she never would have gotten into otherwise and then became 511 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: a senator, and people still ack like she's an unseerious 512 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 1: person can do serious damage to the country. But Elizabeth 513 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: Warren is an unserious person. Elizabeth Warren. Then you have 514 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: this other point that she makes, which I also think 515 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: is oh wait, wait before I get the other point. 516 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: And on the issue of races, I have said many 517 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: times gender is binary, and people try to be clever 518 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: and say what about intersex? And I always say, well, 519 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: first of all, even people who are intersex overwhelmingly choose 520 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 1: to live as either male or female, and it is 521 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: usually based upon the biology they have, because you don't 522 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: have the same and I get too deep into this, 523 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: but usually one pair of parts is far more complete 524 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: than the other. And therefore you go with what's more, 525 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: you go with what the physical reality is is the 526 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: way that that tends to be. And that's also incredibly rare. 527 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: But that's not what they're that's not what they're talking about. 528 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: They're not talking to people that have a rare biological 529 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: condition of being intersex. If it were, then we could say, okay, 530 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: for intersex people, we're going to make a special designation. 531 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: But for all these people who say it's a psychological condition. No, 532 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: you're living in a fantasy, right, Race, as I've said 533 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: many times, is actually a mixture. We're all a mixture 534 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: of different races. Go on twenty three and meter you'll 535 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: find out about this. So then you get into what 536 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: percentage do you have to be to identify as the race. 537 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: Race is far more of a mixed characteristic than gender is. 538 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: And then she ended with this, and I just think 539 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: this is JK. Rowling, the Harry Potter author, phenomenal on 540 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: this issue. She writes, calling a man a man is 541 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: not bullying or punching down cross dressing. Straight men are 542 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: currently one of them, pandered two demographics in existence, and 543 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: women are under no obligation to applaud the people caricaturing us. Amen. 544 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: I've never read the Harry Potter books. I might have 545 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: to go get them now, going to billion people that 546 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: have already read these books because JK. Rowland gets it 547 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: very effective on this issue. Marco Rubio Center from Florida 548 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: coming up.