WEBVTT - Conversations About Care

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<v Speaker 1>Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 1>Sealers Podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your

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<v Speaker 1>loa glasses Malone.

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<v Speaker 2>Pete Dogg was the deal.

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<v Speaker 3>You know me, no deals.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>So I literally am icing my leg right. So the

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<v Speaker 1>problem ain't necessarily standing up after this. The problem is

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<v Speaker 1>sitting down and keeping your leg bent. That's the problem,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see, and it makes.

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<v Speaker 2>It swell up.

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<v Speaker 1>Today I was supposed to go to therapy and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't because it was so swollen, like it was just

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<v Speaker 1>hurting to walk, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So I can't when I work through it through that

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<v Speaker 2>just be horrible. So today I have to ice.

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<v Speaker 1>It probably three times a day, you know, fifteen on,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen off, fifteen on fifteen off, elevated three times a day,

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<v Speaker 1>four hour, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to get the swelling to go down.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna have to do the old thing you used

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<v Speaker 3>to try to make us do for track, to fill

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<v Speaker 3>the bathtub of ice and throw some water and they're

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<v Speaker 3>and sit in that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one leg. Yeah, that's crazy as hell. That is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I had some crazy epiphanies and it was based off

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<v Speaker 1>of a conversation I had with head last week and

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk to you about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been on my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it fair to say convenience is the killer of quality?

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<v Speaker 3>Possibly in some scenarios, Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>In most scenarios, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the time it depends on, like on the production side,

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<v Speaker 3>to get something produced faster, we'll kill quality if you

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<v Speaker 3>get it delivered faster. M not necessarily mean it kills quality.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, probably even delivered faster, it's probably gonna kill the

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<v Speaker 1>quality of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes you want things delivered quickly because it shortens the exposure,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to the elements and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that possible?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, what's the greatest what's the greatest convenient thing

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<v Speaker 1>that sped everything up that didn't create a loss.

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<v Speaker 3>Of quality anything? Shipping?

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<v Speaker 2>I think we got to do a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>research on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Because like it's like the I forget remember which which

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<v Speaker 3>physics law of thermodynamics is, but the law of inevitable

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<v Speaker 3>k you know. Yeah, So I mean there's certain stuff

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<v Speaker 3>you don't want sun exposure to. You don't want various

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<v Speaker 3>degrees of I mean, like.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I said, I don't know if that

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<v Speaker 1>goes with convenience versus.

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<v Speaker 2>Versus like a requirement.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that makes it more convenient or

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<v Speaker 1>it's a necessity, true, But but okay, let's say from

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<v Speaker 1>a basic standpoint, right, convenience is the killer of quality. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say food for example, Right, Like the faster food

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<v Speaker 1>is cooked, it has to lose quality, Like pressure cookers

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<v Speaker 1>is the ship. But even the best pressure cooked chicken

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<v Speaker 1>can't fuck with fried chicken done correctly. Right, It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>always gonna be a little less quality, Is that fair

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<v Speaker 1>to say?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure? On the high side, if to know how it

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<v Speaker 2>was equal. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>On the flip side, you look at like say the automobile,

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<v Speaker 3>and like as production quality improves, like you know, decades

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<v Speaker 3>ago the Rolls Royce there was a lot of hand crafted,

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<v Speaker 3>ornate interior work done. But if you can cad that

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<v Speaker 3>at the same high quality, then you're getting it faster

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<v Speaker 3>and more convenient, higher quality, more interchangeability. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but even that's virtually impossible, like like it could

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<v Speaker 1>get closed, but it'll never be the same. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know for sure. I know that for sure because just

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<v Speaker 1>in automobiles, it's just not as good. It's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a certain detail that comes with the

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<v Speaker 1>human touch that a machine can never duplicate. Sure, now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying you can't have something that sustainable. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying the best version of it is gonna come

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<v Speaker 1>from human hands.

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<v Speaker 2>If the human knows how.

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<v Speaker 1>Now some motherfucker who ignorant on building cars builds a car,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't gonna fuck what his hands do, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a fuck the car. But I'm saying if the

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<v Speaker 1>no how is the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So a good example that will be the German

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<v Speaker 3>tank versus the US tank. The German tanks of World

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<v Speaker 3>War Two as an individual tank or a superior tank,

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<v Speaker 3>slower to build, all that kind of shit, but when

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<v Speaker 3>they broke down, they were fucked. The US tanks might

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<v Speaker 3>break down faster, but they were repaired way faster and

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<v Speaker 3>produced way faster, but as justin isolated, individual, single item

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<v Speaker 3>tank at a single time, their tank was a better tank.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So so the reason I was saying that is I

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<v Speaker 1>was explaining the head that I thought today's human is

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<v Speaker 1>the worst version version of human beings ever created. And

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<v Speaker 1>it sounded crazy because obviously, you know, just even on

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<v Speaker 1>this soil, on American Sawyer. We had some human beings

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<v Speaker 1>that have owned slaves. We had some human beings blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah. We had human beings that would hang out

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<v Speaker 1>the human beings blah blah blah. Right, But the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I could respect about any of those things is

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<v Speaker 1>it was genuinely people being what they were.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, the character durability has declined severely. I

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<v Speaker 3>would respect a guy who does things that at the

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<v Speaker 3>time were perceived as righteous but today are perceived as bad.

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<v Speaker 3>But they did it under duress and persevered through criticism

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<v Speaker 3>and just did what they believed was the right thing

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<v Speaker 3>to do. In the post of today, somebody tries to

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<v Speaker 3>do with that the hell they think is right, and

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<v Speaker 3>somebody says I don't want to them.

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<v Speaker 1>They start crying, And that's my point, right, That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>my point. No sense gl my man, Pete, y'all know

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<v Speaker 1>how we do this thing right here, there's no selling thing. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's finnah go in the crazzy world when we ain't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna bore y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Make it long.

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<v Speaker 1>But trip, this is some shit that was really on

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<v Speaker 1>my mind. That point is why, right, Because today is

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest sense of fake care, fake care.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, people act like they care.

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<v Speaker 1>To make other people care about them, right, which is

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<v Speaker 1>crazy because caring, you know, love in it's extremest form,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean like that type of affectionate care

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<v Speaker 1>is probably the most selfless act.

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<v Speaker 2>When it's authentic.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's like if you care about your mother,

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<v Speaker 1>you do things for your mother, and it has nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do things for your child, has nothing to do with you,

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<v Speaker 1>do you will do them at your detriment because care

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<v Speaker 1>is that thing. Not only is it, you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the it's one of the most essential human you

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<v Speaker 1>know acts that's necessary, right, but it's also the most

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<v Speaker 1>essential human desire. I mean, it's like the most basic,

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<v Speaker 1>simplest human desire.

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<v Speaker 2>Care. You desire care, You want someone to care for you. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've had a thought about that, right was it Attention?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it? It's attention or connection and those two things.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to Charlottagne and Van about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was telling them care is what fused both of those,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in its earliest form, care, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, In its earliest form, care, attention is why

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<v Speaker 1>when somebody paid you attention you thought they cared about you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's why they would pay attention to you.

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<v Speaker 2>They cared about you.

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<v Speaker 1>In its earliest creation, people connected with things they cared about,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Earth provided for human beings, right, you know

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<v Speaker 1>when they were hungry, When the first earliest human beings

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<v Speaker 1>were hungry and they seen the Earth can provide food.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the Earth could care for them. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>created the connection between humans and the earth. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>fair to say?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, as you understand its relation to you, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>compared it to MacDonald's. McDonald's in his earliest inception, right,

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<v Speaker 1>was a place to get food, right, food being a

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<v Speaker 1>sustenance that provides nutrients and vitamins, things that are necessary

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<v Speaker 1>to live, right, to get energy and gone the next day.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Fast forward, you know, seventy years later, you know McDonald's

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<v Speaker 1>being in the forties, fifties, whatever was that. Fast forward

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<v Speaker 1>seventy years later, seventy to eighty years later, you're at

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<v Speaker 1>a time where McDonald's is so convenient, and that convenience,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's so convenience means it's available to the masses,

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<v Speaker 1>is starting to take a hit in quality to the

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<v Speaker 1>point to where we're questioning is it actually food now?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely? And that to me is a great illustration of

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<v Speaker 3>some stuff I'd been kind of talking about off air,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in that like, for one, the relationship between

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<v Speaker 3>like in finance, you know, big corporations and government has

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<v Speaker 3>effectively removed risk out of the industry and the mentality

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<v Speaker 3>between say a corporate executive and an entrepreneur. An entrepreneur

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<v Speaker 3>looks at something work how can this work? And a

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<v Speaker 3>corporate executive looks at something as how can this not work?

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<v Speaker 3>And we've now removed innovation from commerce in this country

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<v Speaker 3>in exchange for just simple cost reduction. We can't innovate

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<v Speaker 3>at the same price something better, So let's just create

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<v Speaker 3>making the same thing cheaper and cheaper and cheaper. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's and that's a quality crisis. And I think even

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<v Speaker 3>more so than the you know, compromise of caring generation

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<v Speaker 3>and generation, is there's been a serious compromise in duty

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<v Speaker 3>and courage, which those are things that you do or

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<v Speaker 3>that you display regardless of how you're received. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>like I think it was like Aristotle says, the most

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<v Speaker 3>important quality is courage, because without it, every other quality

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<v Speaker 3>becomes compromise. If you can't stand up for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm, that's a good point. That's crazy, that's on your mind,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's on my mind. Yeah, incomparable in comparison to care, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like having that conversation about food and McDonald's, and in

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<v Speaker 1>comparison to care today, attention and connection are entirely too convenient, right, Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>If you cared about a woman one hundred years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were interested in her, right, you had to

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<v Speaker 1>put a genuine effort to pay her attention. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't pick up the phone and call her. You

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<v Speaker 1>had to go to her house. Or you had to

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<v Speaker 1>write a letter. So that means you had to write.

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<v Speaker 3>A letter, ride a horse or give a piece of

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<v Speaker 3>paper to somebody else that walked.

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<v Speaker 1>Or rode a horse and pay them. Yes, so you

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<v Speaker 1>had to handwrite a letter. Think about the things you

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<v Speaker 1>had to go through.

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<v Speaker 2>The hammer.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to dip your fat. You had to dip

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<v Speaker 1>your pen in ink. Now maybe that's not one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, but you get the point. You had to

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<v Speaker 1>pretty close.

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<v Speaker 3>Became a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not not there for sure, not in nineteen twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>So you had to dip you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to dip your yo yo feather in ink,

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<v Speaker 1>and you had to put effort into writing this woman

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<v Speaker 1>a motherfucking letter. You had far a way to get

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<v Speaker 1>it to her, like that really required work. If you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to see this motherfucking lady, you had to literally

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<v Speaker 1>right get on a fucking horse, or you had to

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<v Speaker 1>walk miles to her. So when you paid her attention,

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<v Speaker 1>she can safely say you had to care about her.

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<v Speaker 1>It had to be some sense of care to give

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<v Speaker 1>her attention, so she she wouldn't be wrong to think

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<v Speaker 1>you cared about her if you paid her attention, because

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<v Speaker 1>at that time, attention was expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>What you paid when you paid attention, it costs you time.

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<v Speaker 3>At this time, it's interesting, attention is expensive, but we

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<v Speaker 3>don't pay for it. That's what that's what's so unique

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<v Speaker 3>about the modern era. Brave the browser, and you know

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<v Speaker 3>basic attention to coin is token, but what it was

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<v Speaker 3>minted there's a white paper behind us. So the guy

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<v Speaker 3>who founded Firefox started Brave and his white papers based

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<v Speaker 3>on the premium of human attention and how much the

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<v Speaker 3>free media, free social media apparatus, free technology pays. Like

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<v Speaker 3>you pay attention to app a for three hours a day.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say, well, you don't get paid for it. But

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<v Speaker 3>app A sells your attention to one hundred marketing merchants,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, so your attention is more valuable now than

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<v Speaker 3>it used to be. You just don't get paid for it,

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<v Speaker 3>and you don't have to pay for it. It's being outsourced.

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<v Speaker 1>But trip off is it's cheap amongst us. Think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>a motherfucker for man to.

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<v Speaker 3>Its a slavery. Huh, it's attention slavery. Oh yes, you're

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<v Speaker 3>giving away attention and other for free, and other people

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<v Speaker 3>are making money off of your man hours of focus.

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<v Speaker 1>But but but not to go that far.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's that's dope, far before we go that far.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we go that far, because that's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole another thing, extre that's something else we could talk

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<v Speaker 1>about in the record business too. That I was tripping

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<v Speaker 1>off for right, But let me let me make that's dope.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me make my point though, right so right now,

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<v Speaker 1>to pay that same woman attention, right, it requires it's convenient.

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<v Speaker 1>It's little to no effort. I can take my fucking phone,

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<v Speaker 1>look at her d M.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, pop an emoji in her in her empoct.

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<v Speaker 2>I got it. Literally takes no effort.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, you're familiar with Gutenberg, the Gutenberg Bible and

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<v Speaker 3>the original printing press, right, No, so the original printing

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<v Speaker 3>press worked like you would have these upside down backwards

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<v Speaker 3>squares of wood with a letter on it, so when

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<v Speaker 3>you pressed down on a piece of paper, it would

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<v Speaker 3>show up with the letter and it would be readable.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 3>So Gutenberg's Bible is a huge Bible giant, but he

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<v Speaker 3>was able to create blocks for every page of the

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<v Speaker 3>Bible and press a million pieces of paper down and

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<v Speaker 3>distribute it in mass. Right, So I wonder if Gutenberg

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<v Speaker 3>was the original player, because all he had to do

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<v Speaker 3>was change the name of Jessica to Ashley at the

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<v Speaker 3>top and said boiler played out the same printing press

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<v Speaker 3>letter to a hundred bitches and find out which one

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<v Speaker 3>hit back first.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that actually is not a bastard. That'll be my

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<v Speaker 1>nigga pun from the community. That would have been his

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<v Speaker 1>play back then, Oh shit, and it just changed him

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<v Speaker 1>the letters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So the point I'm saying is when you get back

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<v Speaker 1>to care right and and attention, Now, attention is no longer.

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<v Speaker 2>An agent of care.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, connection is no longer an agent because of care,

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<v Speaker 1>They're no longer agents of care. They're no longer agents

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<v Speaker 1>of care attention. You don't have to care about anything

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<v Speaker 1>to give it attention. I follow some people on social media, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to just throw them under the bus,

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<v Speaker 1>because I usually do. But I'm trying not to. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to. I don't know if it's growing up, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm wrong. I need to keep it a

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<v Speaker 1>buck anyway. But some of these people are so desperate

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<v Speaker 1>to market themselves right that they overdo it purposely so

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<v Speaker 1>people can look at them like they're the beacon of things.

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<v Speaker 1>And I realized this about marketing in twenty and nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Nip used to be shout

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<v Speaker 1>out my boy Nip hustle recipes, but he used to

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<v Speaker 1>be on me, real tough about marketing, and he would

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<v Speaker 1>talk about me and him and a couple of us

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<v Speaker 1>and our authenticity being the cornerstone of what we market it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem with authenticity being a marketable asset is

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<v Speaker 1>authenticity doesn't have a consistency, right. It has a consistency

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<v Speaker 1>of you always being you, but other people could never

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<v Speaker 1>figure out who you are because it doesn't mean like

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<v Speaker 1>it's easier to be fake and be one way, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, no real human being is one way. Every

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<v Speaker 1>human being has, you know, a duality about it, a dynamic.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's peaks in valleies to every human being,

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<v Speaker 1>even the shallowest person, that's peaks and valleys to them.

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<v Speaker 3>You almost can't authentically be like genuine and relatable if

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<v Speaker 3>you're not a top of the bell curve personality. If

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<v Speaker 3>you're a right or left side of the extreme on

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<v Speaker 3>a bell curve and you're existing a one percentile environment,

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<v Speaker 3>how the hell or of the other ninety nine percent

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<v Speaker 3>going to relate to you? When you're being authentic, you

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<v Speaker 3>have to manipulate what you are or what you're putting

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<v Speaker 3>out to the other ninety nine percent. They're not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get They're gonna out the hell's up with that guy?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of my issue, right, So that's my

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<v Speaker 1>issue as an artist. Where it's authentic, it is authentic.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's no consistency about you know, there's certain things

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<v Speaker 1>that are hard line, but it's not always the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like like even as a gangster, right, Like I'm like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe in snitching, right, but somebody will confuse

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<v Speaker 1>snitching who doesn't you know, they're not from the streets,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll be like, oh, this old lady told on

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<v Speaker 1>this man who mugged them, and I'm like, yo, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not snitching. But in their mind, because they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a true definition, you know, they like, oh, well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>telling the police, and it's like, that's not what's snitching.

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<v Speaker 1>Is snitching is two criminals, one trying to absolve blame

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<v Speaker 1>of himself and get out of trouble, so he's telling

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<v Speaker 1>on another person's crime.

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<v Speaker 3>People not nine percent of people do not believe in

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<v Speaker 3>actually absorbing accountability. Yeah, so you're already at the you're

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<v Speaker 3>already at a disadvantage.

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<v Speaker 1>Exact, which makes me the one percent, Yes, yeah, which

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<v Speaker 1>is what gangsterism.

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<v Speaker 3>Is all about.

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<v Speaker 2>That one percent. Everybody else feel like, well, whatever I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta do to get out of it is.

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<v Speaker 3>You really gotta start making t shirts like the patch

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<v Speaker 3>on the motorcycle games at one percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you're right. I gotta shout out to the

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<v Speaker 2>Brothers for that. I gotta get that. Okay, So back

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<v Speaker 2>to the point.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like McDonald's is convenient, Just like McDonald's is convenient, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's mass distributed it's starting to you're starting to

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<v Speaker 1>question how much nutrients in vitiments is in it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's also starting to be obvious that it is not

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<v Speaker 1>a full quality version of what we call food. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the same thing with what social media does for attention.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to a degree.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, It makes it so accessible, it's so accessible for

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<v Speaker 1>someone to pay you attention that a person paying you

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<v Speaker 1>attention don't have to care about you. And I'm starting

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<v Speaker 1>to notice how bad it is to where people are

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<v Speaker 1>really misleading people to get them. Like the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that made care dope, connection and attention, you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>of that dynamics.

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<v Speaker 2>Of care, Care was dope because it was selfless. We're

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<v Speaker 2>in a phase where care is starting to be selfish, where.

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<v Speaker 3>Niggas is like yo, extremely transactional, huh, extremely transactional.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, whereas like super like it's all about social currency,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'll become socially wealthy if people think I care.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's no long gain. Everything is. What the hell

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<v Speaker 3>is the term for self there's a word for self serving,

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<v Speaker 3>but one thousand percent right, self serving?

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot And I was thinking about that this whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason I was thinking about that because I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking about that from the same phase which started

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<v Speaker 1>me on that journey.

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<v Speaker 2>Thought is hip hop right where?

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when Na first came out with the hip

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<v Speaker 1>Hop Is Dead album and I was like, man, that

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy. But I'm starting to understand now. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he meant this. But as culture, right, as street

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<v Speaker 1>urban culture starts to now, as America starts to move,

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<v Speaker 1>especially California, they're starting to move. You're not gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>able to be poor in California. That's no longer.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah you are.

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<v Speaker 3>You're you're gonna be really poor in California.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be broke in California. You're not gonna be poor.

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<v Speaker 1>See it's different. You're not gonna be poor, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be broke. Yeah, but California will not. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>coming really soon. I want to say ten years street

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<v Speaker 1>street urban culture. Well it's it's ceasing to evolve now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not evolving at all no more. It's like, because

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have the poverty, you know, the compression, the

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<v Speaker 1>combination of poverty and oppression and naturalness.

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<v Speaker 2>Of what we do is what created street urban culture. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's in the Bronx or Compton, same shit, right, that.

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<v Speaker 1>That creates street urban culture, that creates bad education programs,

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<v Speaker 1>creates the lingo. Poverty created the fashion, Oppression created the attitude.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, All these things are created

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<v Speaker 1>from these circumstances. Without it, you will not you know

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<v Speaker 1>already right now in twenty twenty three, cuz the culture

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<v Speaker 1>is not evolving. Like I'm watching different artists come up

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, yo, yo, I'm trying to change the culture.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like they just like, well, I'm a dressed

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<v Speaker 1>like Atlanta niggas or I'm gonna rap on Detroit beats,

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<v Speaker 1>and they think they're evolving the culture. It's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just biting.

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<v Speaker 3>It's devolving rapidly.

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<v Speaker 2>Hands down, I agree, it's like putting really softly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was thinking about hip hop and I was like, damn, man,

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<v Speaker 1>like hip hop is a culture for sale business. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was telling a head this. You know, hip hop

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<v Speaker 1>was the exclusive bridge for America in the world to

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<v Speaker 1>get into street urban culture, Like this is how you came.

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<v Speaker 1>There was only so many you know, Colors movies, and

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<v Speaker 1>Colors movies only gave you this small peak at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember it's a police film on game banging, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>about the police officers. You didn't get a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>rocket or high top. Remember, Boys in the Hood is

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<v Speaker 1>a movie on black fatherhood and and Furious Styles raising

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<v Speaker 1>his son Trey, and then Doe Boy and Ricky not

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<v Speaker 1>having a dad and you seeing a different circumstances. So

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<v Speaker 1>you only got so much. Dough Boy only got so much, Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>you only got so much. What's the bust ass nigga

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<v Speaker 1>that had the HONDEI oh god, fairs fairs punk ass?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't fight? So he's trying to shoot somebody. You,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you only got so much of them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>New Jack City is a is a police officer movie,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, about a police trying to change a crackhead's

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<v Speaker 1>life and get his shit together. And you only got

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<v Speaker 1>so much. At Nino Brown's perspective. Hip hop gave you

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<v Speaker 1>dough Boy's perspective, you know what I mean, rockets perspective. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Nino Brown's perspective at it gave hip hop gave it

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<v Speaker 1>to you full fledge. You got it all right, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's the exclusive bridge. But now social media, right,

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 1>you know YouTube for example, you can go on YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>and look at straight people from you know, people that's

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 1>straight from the community and they're just talking. You can

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<v Speaker 1>see their fashion, you can hear their lingo. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>at one time hip hop artists, right, you had to

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<v Speaker 1>be a refined person that you you you had to

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<v Speaker 1>represent the whole community, you know what I mean, Like

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 1>like Easy E couldn't just be a representer of Kelly Park.

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<v Speaker 1>He had to represent that whole area of Compton. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he had to become skilled as a professional.

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:50.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, Corrupt couldn't just represent sixties. He had to

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<v Speaker 1>represent South Central, just like ice Cube. Ice Cube couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>represent one eleven. He had to represent all of South

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<v Speaker 1>Central because you know, that's as close as people could

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:02.680
<v Speaker 1>get to the culture. And so with that shit, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, right, you had guys who were skilled,

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<v Speaker 1>they were professionals and talents. Now if you on YouTube,

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:13.879
<v Speaker 1>it's niggas with no talent that you are absolving culture from.

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<v Speaker 2>And now that they don't have to go to hip hop.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you used to cost you twenty dollars for

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the CD because you know what I'm saying, it's cost

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:23.239
<v Speaker 1>you twenty dollars or you had to or you had

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:26.440
<v Speaker 1>to pay for a concert. Now they've become Google free.

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<v Speaker 3>They've become Google where there's no market of price to

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 3>determine quality. So that's the theme of the book, like

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 3>life after Google.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's happening is I realized, like, yo, this no

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:45.920
<v Speaker 1>longer is enough. Glasses showing up as a nigga from

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Watts and you know content, you know the West Coast

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 1>showing up in Oklahoma City is not enough.

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Like, that's not enough culture.

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.119
<v Speaker 1>They can get that for free without coming to a

0:26:56.200 --> 0:27:00.200
<v Speaker 1>concert paying fifty dollars. I need to bring comp than

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 1>in wats three or four dimensions with me. If I'm

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:09.199
<v Speaker 1>going to go, it has to come with me, Like

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 1>I have to bring way more of this upbringing this

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:17.919
<v Speaker 1>street urban culture with me. Or I need to bring

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:21.119
<v Speaker 1>you to street urban culture, like I can't just bring

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 1>you here to see me. You have to come, see, smell,

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:29.639
<v Speaker 1>and taste this shit. I'm talking about this experience that

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 1>that inspired if it's if it's my new album, you

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:36.440
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. I need to bring you here

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:41.160
<v Speaker 1>and it has to be a full quality experience. That's

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 1>how I gotten to the point of thinking where we

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 1>were at with care now and where today's human is,

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:50.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, and most humans want to pay for for

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 1>They only want to pay for a full quality experience.

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:55.880
<v Speaker 1>They do not want to swap their money no more

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 1>for the shit that they've been buying for forty years,

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, they was paying for in nineteen ninety three

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 1>or nineteen eighty seven. That is no longer enough. Because

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>culture street urban culture is convenient as well.

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, and I think that there's another element to it,

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 3>at least from my observation, you saw a pivot in

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 3>hip hop from people who became successful talking about the

0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 3>struggle in the lack of success so to speak, versus

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 3>people who became successful talented as they were talking about

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:35.919
<v Speaker 3>basically like braggadocious success stories. So then you get people

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 3>like like the first high school I went to, rich

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 3>kids with too much money, so they were able to

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 3>relate to cash money record because they would go out

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 3>and customize their cars and look just like cash money

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 3>music videos, you know. So it went from talking about

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 3>this is what's happened in the community, talking about why

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm so goddamn special because I made a bunch of

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 3>money and bounced, And that became the theme of the

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.479
<v Speaker 3>genre for a lot of years, and people as we

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 3>saw like it. And I won't name names, but we've

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 3>been seeing a guy elected president on hope. People like hope,

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 3>people like dreams, They like aspirations, even if they have

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 3>no intent on actually doing what it takes to fulfill them.

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 3>So if you can talk about looking on my designer

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 3>shit and I did all this and no, no, no, d

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean how many times people you see reposts some

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:28.239
<v Speaker 3>success story by some guy they admire that they have

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 3>no intention of doing any of that shit, but they're

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 3>really inspired by it for thirty five seconds versus somebody

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 3>talking about how hard it was. No one wants to

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 3>hear about how hard it is.

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 2>They just want to hear how good it is.

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 3>They just want the results. They want the paycheck without

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 3>the forty hours.

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, the thing that makes cash money records special. And

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I've been telling a lot.

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 2>I'll be kicking on them, huh.

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 3>I was just saying.

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, no, no, I get it. No.

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>But let me say this because I have been talking

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>about this to a lot of younger artists, because when

0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I tell them, a lot of younger artists are like,

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>oh gee, but what about money? You know, I'm telling

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 1>them like if I'm looking at a Blast video and

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, hey, you know y'all got a Ferrari or

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 1>if Roddy got a Ferrari or Lamborghini, I'm like, Yo,

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>don't get caught up in that. Like I get it

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 1>that that looks like that's the thing, right, But the

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 1>catch is what made Cash Money different? Right, And somebody

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>has been a fan of their rides, you know that's

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 1>from the West. I've been messing with them since ninety

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 1>six ninety seven as far as a fan the Big

0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Timers first album. Right, The difference with Cash Money is

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 1>they look like Project Niggas in Lamborghinis. And I don't

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 1>mean their face. I don't mean they were black whities. Yeah,

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:44.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean they were wearing white T shirts, Jabbo's and

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>rebuy classics with bandanas, doing donuts in Lamborghinis.

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 1>So it's different like like in Wat's especially at that time,

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I was selling drugs and hanging out every day with

0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>homies and getting them shot out, shootouts, getting shot at,

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:03.240
<v Speaker 1>shooting people, going to jail. But you looked at Project

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Niggas having money that is dope, right, Yeah, But today

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:09.959
<v Speaker 1>what you see in hip hop is a bunch of

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>douches wearing designer clothes in Ferraris, and I'm like, you

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>just look like a douche in a fucking Ferrari And

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>that's not.

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 3>They looked like they looked like the kids that like

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 3>I said that my first high school.

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>You got a bunch of design like what you look

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 1>like white people trying to act black.

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 3>It's like, here's a good little stupid story, and it's

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 3>and it's interesting for maybe listeners who aren't in the

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 3>state of Florida. But we had a huge flood a

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks ago, if you might have seen it,

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 3>it shut down all the gas pumping terminals at the port,

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 3>so the Metropolitan ran out of gas, so you would

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 3>I was low on gas. I had to go to

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 3>like nine or ten gas stations before I could find

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 3>a station that was actually selling gas and didn't have

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 3>a line backed up one hundred yards down the street.

0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 3>So I get there and some dude wants to cut

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 3>off all cars. He's, you know, mid twenties, is buff,

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 3>he's tatted up, whatever the help, but he gets out

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 3>He's got a designer hat, designer shoes, jeans, all that shit,

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 3>and he carries a little handbag Gucci satchel, which obviously

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 3>you're running around threatening people that hard. You got a

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 3>gun in the satchel, Like, let's not kid around, sure,

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 3>but it's a different type of look when you pull

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 3>up in your lexus and jump out and start threatening

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 3>people by gesturing to your Gucci satchel.

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Satchel.

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 3>What was that movie on the Hangover?

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>It's a puss, it's a press, it is a purse.

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that is true, and that's the separation. So

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 1>again it goes back into the same conversation of quality,

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, where things are so convenient

0:32:56.880 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 1>that they're losing quality and you can't sell things that

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 1>are low quality unless you're McDonald's. Like right now, if

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 1>you opened up a burger stand that sold burgers that

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 1>was like McDonald's, you get laughed at.

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 2>McDonald's.

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Is the only person in the world that could get

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>away with them smashed bun cheeseburgers. I remember I went

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 1>to McDonald's probably two months ago. I was with Jordan.

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>She had got off work. I picked Jordan up. She

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>was like, she wants to McDonald So I go to

0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 1>McDonald's and I say, she ordered her food.

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 2>She gets some kind of nasty has spicy chicken sandwich

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 2>and I order a cheese.

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I said, can I get two cheeseburgers without the buns smashed?

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 1>And they was like, huh. I'm like, don't punch down

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 1>on my fucking burgers. I want my buns to be

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>like buns.

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 3>So you were yelling out the window of your car,

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 3>don't smashed down on my buns, okay, just to be.

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Clear, right.

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, I'm telling them this and you should

0:33:56.000 --> 0:34:00.080
<v Speaker 1>have heard them, like they laugh, And I'm like, I know, oh,

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>y'all up in this motherfucker punching down on the buns.

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Because every time I get a fucking cheeseburger, the buns

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>look like they've been smashed down.

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:08.880
<v Speaker 3>They're like Peter bread.

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Imagine a new burger place sold that shit now, it

0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>could not happen.

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 3>And additionally, you couldn't be a new burger place and

0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 3>get burgers off at three dollars a piece and make

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:31.359
<v Speaker 3>rest that's a good point if you're selling burgers at

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 3>ten times. I go to the burger places I go to,

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 3>they're not even great, they're good, they're ten eleven dollars.

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's true, it's miserable.

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:46.879
<v Speaker 1>That's a good point, But that was my thought. It

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, we're at a place where attention is so convenient,

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:59.239
<v Speaker 1>it's so mass up. It's just abundantly available mass any girl,

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>to the point where, like I heard people be like, Oh,

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 1>they're showing me love on social media. I'm like, no,

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:08.400
<v Speaker 1>they're not. They're showing you attention. And that's a tough

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:15.279
<v Speaker 1>place because, like I said, traditionally, attention was associated with

0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 1>love and care. This is twenty twenty three, Like motherfucking

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:26.720
<v Speaker 1>MacDonald's Cuz that's not food. Them likes on social media

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 1>is not care, it's attention. I know, attention used to.

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 2>A care.

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:38.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, care was attention was an agent of care. Well,

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:41.879
<v Speaker 1>MacDonald's used to be an agent of food. That shit

0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 1>is not happening no more.

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 2>It's done.

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 3>And I think part of that also is what's become

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 3>convenient is attention. You can show somebody attention on social

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 3>media while you're on your way to work or while

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:58.320
<v Speaker 3>you're at work. You used to have to dedicate time

0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:02.359
<v Speaker 3>to attention, you know, Yeah, to give somebody an hour

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 3>of attention might have taken you three actual hours an

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 3>hour There an hour of attention and an hour back,

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 3>and you couldn't do shit else. Now, yeah, you can

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 3>do three other things and can give somebody attention on

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 3>the side while you're waiting someone to hand to your

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:15.880
<v Speaker 3>punchdown buns.

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 2>That's just what it is. That's a good boy. Well, okay, okay.

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 3>You can like her buns while you don't like the

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 3>ones you just bought.

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 2>That is true, And she'd think it's love.

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, And so I was giving her one hundred dollars

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 3>to validate that.

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 1>So at that point, am I wrong for thinking that

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 1>this version of human being is the worst version at all?

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Because this is the most this is the fakest version

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 1>of people.

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 3>It is the least dutiful, the least long viewed, the

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:58.479
<v Speaker 3>least character driven, the least everything. I mean, you could

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:02.360
<v Speaker 3>buy off some with a cheap Chinese made piece of

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 3>plastic and thirty five fucking seconds.

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 2>That's just the truth.

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we we even on a macro sense, we

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 3>completely gutted like our manufacturing industry so that we could

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:17.319
<v Speaker 3>outsource everything while we barred and barred and barred against

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 3>the dollar to try to push down on inflation on

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 3>the supply side. By sending all of our supply sourcing

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.839
<v Speaker 3>overseas at the expense of the people who live here.

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just from the micro to the macros.

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:32.320
<v Speaker 3>It's all the same psychology. It just depends on the scope,

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, to which it's applied.

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 2>How long? How much longer can we go on like this?

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:40.240
<v Speaker 3>About six weeks?

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 2>So we got left six we got very little left?

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very little left?

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Can say we got six weeks? How about six weeks?

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Shits go to implode, it's over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

0:37:57.719 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Look at commercials every day, but like, yeah, this is

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 1>how we gonna stop gun violence.

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? The fact that.

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 1>They made gun violence a thing, not violence, just gun

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:15.840
<v Speaker 1>violence or human beings on human beings. It's like, I

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>promise you I genuinely believe all that they know, and

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>they know people are stupid. So I've always said this

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 1>politician's job are to the greatest politicians. Okay, so not

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the greatest, but the most liked politician, or I should

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 1>say the best, because greatest and best. I think greatest

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 1>is quantifiable with impact. I think best is favorable. You know,

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:45.240
<v Speaker 1>what you like or how many people like them, doesn't matter,

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 1>the impact is just like I think the best presidents

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:52.400
<v Speaker 1>cater to human beings emotions totally.

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, at this point, that's all that it's been for.

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 3>I would say since the mid nineteen seventies.

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 2>I would say president is responsible for this.

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:09.319
<v Speaker 3>I would say Carter and then Reagan came in and

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 3>catered to a kickback in the opposite direction of a

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:18.279
<v Speaker 3>different emotional breakdown in a different population. And you have

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 3>a sliver that shifted over. Oh, we felt good and

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<v Speaker 3>warm and fuzzy about Carter's idiotic ideas, but made us

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<v Speaker 3>feel like this is hopeful and we feel optimistic. Then

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<v Speaker 3>it all failed. And then he came in and said, no,

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<v Speaker 3>we need to do this and everything's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>great and America's gonna be great again, Okay, and then

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<v Speaker 3>go over there. And then Clinton comes in and sells

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<v Speaker 3>bullshit and bullshit, and then Bush the second comes in

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<v Speaker 3>and sells, you know, patriotism and other horseshit after the

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<v Speaker 3>Clinton vision kind of expired on its own weight. And

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<v Speaker 3>then Obama sells hope and dreams, and then Trump sells

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<v Speaker 3>be patriotic again. Fuck the hope and dreams that it's

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<v Speaker 3>not Yeah, you sell one group sells the app distract

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<v Speaker 3>and the optimistic.

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<v Speaker 1>The other group sells the reality and the immediate and

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<v Speaker 1>the reality and historical.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, yeah, but one sells buoyance and one sells gravity.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say that one more time.

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<v Speaker 3>One sells buoyance and one sells gravity.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's fucking great. Cuz, oh man, what

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<v Speaker 1>are we gonna do? What are we gonna do with

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<v Speaker 1>these last six weeks?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what?

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<v Speaker 1>Every conversation, Hold up, six weeks. We got six weeks left.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me get that date, June fourth, So that makes uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the so so that's June fifth, fifth, Okay, June fifth, one, two, three,

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<v Speaker 1>four five yep, June yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So the end of the world is Juville. Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>June tenth isn't going to be about an opaque delayed,

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<v Speaker 3>the freeing of slaves and the word. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>about a opaq collapse of humanity. You were a few

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<v Speaker 3>weeks late hearing about how it all ended.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Good looking out for tuning into The note Seller's podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.