Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealers Podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: loa glasses Malone.
Speaker 2: Pete Dogg was the deal.
Speaker 3: You know me, no deals.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: So I literally am icing my leg right. So the
Speaker 1: problem ain't necessarily standing up after this. The problem is
Speaker 1: sitting down and keeping your leg bent. That's the problem,
Speaker 1: let's see, and it makes.
Speaker 2: It swell up.
Speaker 1: Today I was supposed to go to therapy and I
Speaker 1: didn't because it was so swollen, like it was just
Speaker 1: hurting to walk, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So I can't when I work through it through that
Speaker 2: just be horrible. So today I have to ice.
Speaker 1: It probably three times a day, you know, fifteen on,
Speaker 1: fifteen off, fifteen on fifteen off, elevated three times a day,
Speaker 1: four hour, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Just to get the swelling to go down.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to do the old thing you used
Speaker 3: to try to make us do for track, to fill
Speaker 3: the bathtub of ice and throw some water and they're
Speaker 3: and sit in that shit.
Speaker 2: It's one leg. Yeah, that's crazy as hell. That is crazy.
Speaker 1: I had some crazy epiphanies and it was based off
Speaker 1: of a conversation I had with head last week and
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about it.
Speaker 2: It's been on my mind.
Speaker 1: Is it fair to say convenience is the killer of quality?
Speaker 3: Possibly in some scenarios, Sure.
Speaker 2: In most scenarios, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, the time it depends on, like on the production side,
Speaker 3: to get something produced faster, we'll kill quality if you
Speaker 3: get it delivered faster. M not necessarily mean it kills quality.
Speaker 1: Ah, probably even delivered faster, it's probably gonna kill the
Speaker 1: quality of it.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you want things delivered quickly because it shortens the exposure,
Speaker 3: you know, to the elements and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Is that possible?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, what's the greatest what's the greatest convenient thing
Speaker 1: that sped everything up that didn't create a loss.
Speaker 3: Of quality anything? Shipping?
Speaker 2: I think we got to do a little bit more
Speaker 2: research on that.
Speaker 3: Because like it's like the I forget remember which which
Speaker 3: physics law of thermodynamics is, but the law of inevitable
Speaker 3: k you know. Yeah, So I mean there's certain stuff
Speaker 3: you don't want sun exposure to. You don't want various
Speaker 3: degrees of I mean, like.
Speaker 1: And that's why I said, I don't know if that
Speaker 1: goes with convenience versus.
Speaker 2: Versus like a requirement.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that makes it more convenient or
Speaker 1: it's a necessity, true, But but okay, let's say from
Speaker 1: a basic standpoint, right, convenience is the killer of quality. Right,
Speaker 1: Let's say food for example, Right, Like the faster food
Speaker 1: is cooked, it has to lose quality, Like pressure cookers
Speaker 1: is the ship. But even the best pressure cooked chicken
Speaker 1: can't fuck with fried chicken done correctly. Right, It's it's
Speaker 1: always gonna be a little less quality, Is that fair
Speaker 1: to say?
Speaker 2: Sure? On the high side, if to know how it
Speaker 2: was equal. Yeah.
Speaker 3: On the flip side, you look at like say the automobile,
Speaker 3: and like as production quality improves, like you know, decades
Speaker 3: ago the Rolls Royce there was a lot of hand crafted,
Speaker 3: ornate interior work done. But if you can cad that
Speaker 3: at the same high quality, then you're getting it faster
Speaker 3: and more convenient, higher quality, more interchangeability. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but even that's virtually impossible, like like it could
Speaker 1: get closed, but it'll never be the same. I don't
Speaker 1: know for sure. I know that for sure because just
Speaker 1: in automobiles, it's just not as good. It's it's a
Speaker 1: it's a it's a certain detail that comes with the
Speaker 1: human touch that a machine can never duplicate. Sure, now,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you can't have something that sustainable. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying the best version of it is gonna come
Speaker 1: from human hands.
Speaker 2: If the human knows how.
Speaker 1: Now some motherfucker who ignorant on building cars builds a car,
Speaker 1: I don't gonna fuck what his hands do, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a fuck the car. But I'm saying if the
Speaker 1: no how is the same.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So a good example that will be the German
Speaker 3: tank versus the US tank. The German tanks of World
Speaker 3: War Two as an individual tank or a superior tank,
Speaker 3: slower to build, all that kind of shit, but when
Speaker 3: they broke down, they were fucked. The US tanks might
Speaker 3: break down faster, but they were repaired way faster and
Speaker 3: produced way faster, but as justin isolated, individual, single item
Speaker 3: tank at a single time, their tank was a better tank.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So so the reason I was saying that is I
Speaker 1: was explaining the head that I thought today's human is
Speaker 1: the worst version version of human beings ever created. And
Speaker 1: it sounded crazy because obviously, you know, just even on
Speaker 1: this soil, on American Sawyer. We had some human beings
Speaker 1: that have owned slaves. We had some human beings blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. We had human beings that would hang out
Speaker 1: the human beings blah blah blah. Right, But the thing
Speaker 1: that I could respect about any of those things is
Speaker 1: it was genuinely people being what they were.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the character durability has declined severely. I
Speaker 3: would respect a guy who does things that at the
Speaker 3: time were perceived as righteous but today are perceived as bad.
Speaker 3: But they did it under duress and persevered through criticism
Speaker 3: and just did what they believed was the right thing
Speaker 3: to do. In the post of today, somebody tries to
Speaker 3: do with that the hell they think is right, and
Speaker 3: somebody says I don't want to them.
Speaker 1: They start crying, And that's my point, right, That's that's
Speaker 1: my point. No sense gl my man, Pete, y'all know
Speaker 1: how we do this thing right here, there's no selling thing. Man,
Speaker 1: it's finnah go in the crazzy world when we ain't
Speaker 1: gonna bore y'all.
Speaker 2: Make it long.
Speaker 1: But trip, this is some shit that was really on
Speaker 1: my mind. That point is why, right, Because today is
Speaker 1: the greatest sense of fake care, fake care.
Speaker 2: Right, people act like they care.
Speaker 1: To make other people care about them, right, which is
Speaker 1: crazy because caring, you know, love in it's extremest form,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean like that type of affectionate care
Speaker 1: is probably the most selfless act.
Speaker 2: When it's authentic.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like if you care about your mother,
Speaker 1: you do things for your mother, and it has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with you.
Speaker 2: You know, you.
Speaker 1: Do things for your child, has nothing to do with you,
Speaker 1: do you will do them at your detriment because care
Speaker 1: is that thing. Not only is it, you know, one
Speaker 1: of the it's one of the most essential human you
Speaker 1: know acts that's necessary, right, but it's also the most
Speaker 1: essential human desire. I mean, it's like the most basic,
Speaker 1: simplest human desire.
Speaker 2: Care. You desire care, You want someone to care for you. Right.
Speaker 1: So I've had a thought about that, right was it Attention?
Speaker 1: Was it? It's attention or connection and those two things.
Speaker 1: I was talking to Charlottagne and Van about it, and
Speaker 1: I was telling them care is what fused both of those,
Speaker 1: you know, in its earliest form, care, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, In its earliest form, care, attention is why
Speaker 1: when somebody paid you attention you thought they cared about you, right,
Speaker 1: That's why they would pay attention to you.
Speaker 2: They cared about you.
Speaker 1: In its earliest creation, people connected with things they cared about,
Speaker 1: like the Earth provided for human beings, right, you know
Speaker 1: when they were hungry, When the first earliest human beings
Speaker 1: were hungry and they seen the Earth can provide food.
Speaker 1: You know, the Earth could care for them. That's what
Speaker 1: created the connection between humans and the earth. Is that
Speaker 1: fair to say?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 1: Right, as you understand its relation to you, right, I
Speaker 1: compared it to MacDonald's. McDonald's in his earliest inception, right,
Speaker 1: was a place to get food, right, food being a
Speaker 1: sustenance that provides nutrients and vitamins, things that are necessary
Speaker 1: to live, right, to get energy and gone the next day.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Fast forward, you know, seventy years later, you know McDonald's
Speaker 1: being in the forties, fifties, whatever was that. Fast forward
Speaker 1: seventy years later, seventy to eighty years later, you're at
Speaker 1: a time where McDonald's is so convenient, and that convenience,
Speaker 1: because it's so convenience means it's available to the masses,
Speaker 1: is starting to take a hit in quality to the
Speaker 1: point to where we're questioning is it actually food now?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? And that to me is a great illustration of
Speaker 3: some stuff I'd been kind of talking about off air,
Speaker 3: you know, in that like, for one, the relationship between
Speaker 3: like in finance, you know, big corporations and government has
Speaker 3: effectively removed risk out of the industry and the mentality
Speaker 3: between say a corporate executive and an entrepreneur. An entrepreneur
Speaker 3: looks at something work how can this work? And a
Speaker 3: corporate executive looks at something as how can this not work?
Speaker 3: And we've now removed innovation from commerce in this country
Speaker 3: in exchange for just simple cost reduction. We can't innovate
Speaker 3: at the same price something better, So let's just create
Speaker 3: making the same thing cheaper and cheaper and cheaper. And
Speaker 3: that's and that's a quality crisis. And I think even
Speaker 3: more so than the you know, compromise of caring generation
Speaker 3: and generation, is there's been a serious compromise in duty
Speaker 3: and courage, which those are things that you do or
Speaker 3: that you display regardless of how you're received. I mean,
Speaker 3: like I think it was like Aristotle says, the most
Speaker 3: important quality is courage, because without it, every other quality
Speaker 3: becomes compromise. If you can't stand up for it.
Speaker 1: Mm, that's a good point. That's crazy, that's on your mind,
Speaker 1: because it's on my mind. Yeah, incomparable in comparison to care, right,
Speaker 1: like having that conversation about food and McDonald's, and in
Speaker 1: comparison to care today, attention and connection are entirely too convenient, right, Absolutely,
Speaker 1: If you cared about a woman one hundred years ago,
Speaker 1: if you were interested in her, right, you had to
Speaker 1: put a genuine effort to pay her attention. You know,
Speaker 1: you couldn't pick up the phone and call her. You
Speaker 1: had to go to her house. Or you had to
Speaker 1: write a letter. So that means you had to write.
Speaker 3: A letter, ride a horse or give a piece of
Speaker 3: paper to somebody else that walked.
Speaker 1: Or rode a horse and pay them. Yes, so you
Speaker 1: had to handwrite a letter. Think about the things you
Speaker 1: had to go through.
Speaker 2: The hammer.
Speaker 1: You had to dip your fat. You had to dip
Speaker 1: your pen in ink. Now maybe that's not one hundred
Speaker 1: years ago, but you get the point. You had to
Speaker 1: pretty close.
Speaker 3: Became a thing.
Speaker 1: No, not not there for sure, not in nineteen twenty three.
Speaker 1: So you had to dip you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You had to dip your yo yo feather in ink,
Speaker 1: and you had to put effort into writing this woman
Speaker 1: a motherfucking letter. You had far a way to get
Speaker 1: it to her, like that really required work. If you
Speaker 1: wanted to see this motherfucking lady, you had to literally
Speaker 1: right get on a fucking horse, or you had to
Speaker 1: walk miles to her. So when you paid her attention,
Speaker 1: she can safely say you had to care about her.
Speaker 1: It had to be some sense of care to give
Speaker 1: her attention, so she she wouldn't be wrong to think
Speaker 1: you cared about her if you paid her attention, because
Speaker 1: at that time, attention was expensive.
Speaker 2: What you paid when you paid attention, it costs you time.
Speaker 3: At this time, it's interesting, attention is expensive, but we
Speaker 3: don't pay for it. That's what that's what's so unique
Speaker 3: about the modern era. Brave the browser, and you know
Speaker 3: basic attention to coin is token, but what it was
Speaker 3: minted there's a white paper behind us. So the guy
Speaker 3: who founded Firefox started Brave and his white papers based
Speaker 3: on the premium of human attention and how much the
Speaker 3: free media, free social media apparatus, free technology pays. Like
Speaker 3: you pay attention to app a for three hours a day.
Speaker 3: Let's say, well, you don't get paid for it. But
Speaker 3: app A sells your attention to one hundred marketing merchants,
Speaker 3: you know, so your attention is more valuable now than
Speaker 3: it used to be. You just don't get paid for it,
Speaker 3: and you don't have to pay for it. It's being outsourced.
Speaker 1: But trip off is it's cheap amongst us. Think about it,
Speaker 1: a motherfucker for man to.
Speaker 3: Its a slavery. Huh, it's attention slavery. Oh yes, you're
Speaker 3: giving away attention and other for free, and other people
Speaker 3: are making money off of your man hours of focus.
Speaker 1: But but but not to go that far.
Speaker 2: Let's that's dope, far before we go that far.
Speaker 1: But before we go that far, because that's that's a
Speaker 1: whole another thing, extre that's something else we could talk
Speaker 1: about in the record business too. That I was tripping
Speaker 1: off for right, But let me let me make that's dope.
Speaker 1: Let me make my point though, right so right now,
Speaker 1: to pay that same woman attention, right, it requires it's convenient.
Speaker 1: It's little to no effort. I can take my fucking phone,
Speaker 1: look at her d M.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pop an emoji in her in her empoct.
Speaker 2: I got it. Literally takes no effort.
Speaker 3: All right, you're familiar with Gutenberg, the Gutenberg Bible and
Speaker 3: the original printing press, right, No, so the original printing
Speaker 3: press worked like you would have these upside down backwards
Speaker 3: squares of wood with a letter on it, so when
Speaker 3: you pressed down on a piece of paper, it would
Speaker 3: show up with the letter and it would be readable.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 3: So Gutenberg's Bible is a huge Bible giant, but he
Speaker 3: was able to create blocks for every page of the
Speaker 3: Bible and press a million pieces of paper down and
Speaker 3: distribute it in mass. Right, So I wonder if Gutenberg
Speaker 3: was the original player, because all he had to do
Speaker 3: was change the name of Jessica to Ashley at the
Speaker 3: top and said boiler played out the same printing press
Speaker 3: letter to a hundred bitches and find out which one
Speaker 3: hit back first.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that actually is not a bastard. That'll be my
Speaker 1: nigga pun from the community. That would have been his
Speaker 1: play back then, Oh shit, and it just changed him
Speaker 1: the letters.
Speaker 2: Yes, funny.
Speaker 1: So the point I'm saying is when you get back
Speaker 1: to care right and and attention, Now, attention is no longer.
Speaker 2: An agent of care.
Speaker 1: Sure, connection is no longer an agent because of care,
Speaker 1: They're no longer agents of care. They're no longer agents
Speaker 1: of care attention. You don't have to care about anything
Speaker 1: to give it attention. I follow some people on social media, right,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to just throw them under the bus,
Speaker 1: because I usually do. But I'm trying not to. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to. I don't know if it's growing up, but
Speaker 1: I think I'm wrong. I need to keep it a
Speaker 1: buck anyway. But some of these people are so desperate
Speaker 1: to market themselves right that they overdo it purposely so
Speaker 1: people can look at them like they're the beacon of things.
Speaker 1: And I realized this about marketing in twenty and nineteen,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Nip used to be shout
Speaker 1: out my boy Nip hustle recipes, but he used to
Speaker 1: be on me, real tough about marketing, and he would
Speaker 1: talk about me and him and a couple of us
Speaker 1: and our authenticity being the cornerstone of what we market it.
Speaker 1: But the problem with authenticity being a marketable asset is
Speaker 1: authenticity doesn't have a consistency, right. It has a consistency
Speaker 1: of you always being you, but other people could never
Speaker 1: figure out who you are because it doesn't mean like
Speaker 1: it's easier to be fake and be one way, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, no real human being is one way. Every
Speaker 1: human being has, you know, a duality about it, a dynamic.
Speaker 1: You know, it's peaks in valleies to every human being,
Speaker 1: even the shallowest person, that's peaks and valleys to them.
Speaker 3: You almost can't authentically be like genuine and relatable if
Speaker 3: you're not a top of the bell curve personality. If
Speaker 3: you're a right or left side of the extreme on
Speaker 3: a bell curve and you're existing a one percentile environment,
Speaker 3: how the hell or of the other ninety nine percent
Speaker 3: going to relate to you? When you're being authentic, you
Speaker 3: have to manipulate what you are or what you're putting
Speaker 3: out to the other ninety nine percent. They're not gonna
Speaker 3: get They're gonna out the hell's up with that guy?
Speaker 1: And that's kind of my issue, right, So that's my
Speaker 1: issue as an artist. Where it's authentic, it is authentic.
Speaker 1: So there's no consistency about you know, there's certain things
Speaker 1: that are hard line, but it's not always the same thing.
Speaker 1: Like like even as a gangster, right, Like I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I don't believe in snitching, right, but somebody will confuse
Speaker 1: snitching who doesn't you know, they're not from the streets,
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, oh, this old lady told on
Speaker 1: this man who mugged them, and I'm like, yo, that's
Speaker 1: not snitching. But in their mind, because they don't have
Speaker 1: a true definition, you know, they like, oh, well, that's
Speaker 1: telling the police, and it's like, that's not what's snitching.
Speaker 1: Is snitching is two criminals, one trying to absolve blame
Speaker 1: of himself and get out of trouble, so he's telling
Speaker 1: on another person's crime.
Speaker 3: People not nine percent of people do not believe in
Speaker 3: actually absorbing accountability. Yeah, so you're already at the you're
Speaker 3: already at a disadvantage.
Speaker 1: Exact, which makes me the one percent, Yes, yeah, which
Speaker 1: is what gangsterism.
Speaker 3: Is all about.
Speaker 2: That one percent. Everybody else feel like, well, whatever I
Speaker 2: gotta do to get out of it is.
Speaker 3: You really gotta start making t shirts like the patch
Speaker 3: on the motorcycle games at one percent.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're right. I gotta shout out to the
Speaker 2: Brothers for that. I gotta get that. Okay, So back
Speaker 2: to the point.
Speaker 1: Just like McDonald's is convenient, Just like McDonald's is convenient, right,
Speaker 1: and it's mass distributed it's starting to you're starting to
Speaker 1: question how much nutrients in vitiments is in it, and
Speaker 1: it's also starting to be obvious that it is not
Speaker 1: a full quality version of what we call food. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the same thing with what social media does for attention.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to a degree.
Speaker 1: Right, It makes it so accessible, it's so accessible for
Speaker 1: someone to pay you attention that a person paying you
Speaker 1: attention don't have to care about you. And I'm starting
Speaker 1: to notice how bad it is to where people are
Speaker 1: really misleading people to get them. Like the one thing
Speaker 1: that made care dope, connection and attention, you know, all
Speaker 1: of that dynamics.
Speaker 2: Of care, Care was dope because it was selfless. We're
Speaker 2: in a phase where care is starting to be selfish, where.
Speaker 3: Niggas is like yo, extremely transactional, huh, extremely transactional.
Speaker 1: Yes, whereas like super like it's all about social currency,
Speaker 1: Like I'll become socially wealthy if people think I care.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no long gain. Everything is. What the hell
Speaker 3: is the term for self there's a word for self serving,
Speaker 3: but one thousand percent right, self serving?
Speaker 2: I cannot And I was thinking about that this whole time.
Speaker 1: And the reason I was thinking about that because I
Speaker 1: was thinking about that from the same phase which started
Speaker 1: me on that journey.
Speaker 2: Thought is hip hop right where?
Speaker 1: I remember when Na first came out with the hip
Speaker 1: Hop Is Dead album and I was like, man, that
Speaker 1: is crazy. But I'm starting to understand now. I don't
Speaker 1: think he meant this. But as culture, right, as street
Speaker 1: urban culture starts to now, as America starts to move,
Speaker 1: especially California, they're starting to move. You're not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to be poor in California. That's no longer.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah you are.
Speaker 3: You're you're gonna be really poor in California.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be broke in California. You're not gonna be poor.
Speaker 1: See it's different. You're not gonna be poor, You're gonna
Speaker 1: be broke. Yeah, but California will not. You know, it's
Speaker 1: coming really soon. I want to say ten years street
Speaker 1: street urban culture. Well it's it's ceasing to evolve now,
Speaker 1: it's not evolving at all no more. It's like, because
Speaker 1: you don't have the poverty, you know, the compression, the
Speaker 1: combination of poverty and oppression and naturalness.
Speaker 2: Of what we do is what created street urban culture. Right.
Speaker 2: That's that's in the Bronx or Compton, same shit, right, that.
Speaker 1: That creates street urban culture, that creates bad education programs,
Speaker 1: creates the lingo. Poverty created the fashion, Oppression created the attitude.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, All these things are created
Speaker 1: from these circumstances. Without it, you will not you know
Speaker 1: already right now in twenty twenty three, cuz the culture
Speaker 1: is not evolving. Like I'm watching different artists come up
Speaker 1: and they're like, yo, yo, I'm trying to change the culture.
Speaker 1: And it's like they just like, well, I'm a dressed
Speaker 1: like Atlanta niggas or I'm gonna rap on Detroit beats,
Speaker 1: and they think they're evolving the culture. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: you're just biting.
Speaker 3: It's devolving rapidly.
Speaker 2: Hands down, I agree, it's like putting really softly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I was thinking about hip hop and I was like, damn, man,
Speaker 1: like hip hop is a culture for sale business. And
Speaker 1: I was telling a head this. You know, hip hop
Speaker 1: was the exclusive bridge for America in the world to
Speaker 1: get into street urban culture, Like this is how you came.
Speaker 1: There was only so many you know, Colors movies, and
Speaker 1: Colors movies only gave you this small peak at it.
Speaker 1: Remember it's a police film on game banging, so it's
Speaker 1: about the police officers. You didn't get a lot of
Speaker 1: rocket or high top. Remember, Boys in the Hood is
Speaker 1: a movie on black fatherhood and and Furious Styles raising
Speaker 1: his son Trey, and then Doe Boy and Ricky not
Speaker 1: having a dad and you seeing a different circumstances. So
Speaker 1: you only got so much. Dough Boy only got so much, Chris,
Speaker 1: you only got so much. What's the bust ass nigga
Speaker 1: that had the HONDEI oh god, fairs fairs punk ass?
Speaker 1: You can't fight? So he's trying to shoot somebody. You,
Speaker 1: I mean, you only got so much of them.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: New Jack City is a is a police officer movie,
Speaker 1: you know, about a police trying to change a crackhead's
Speaker 1: life and get his shit together. And you only got
Speaker 1: so much. At Nino Brown's perspective. Hip hop gave you
Speaker 1: dough Boy's perspective, you know what I mean, rockets perspective. Uh,
Speaker 1: Nino Brown's perspective at it gave hip hop gave it
Speaker 1: to you full fledge. You got it all right, So
Speaker 1: that's what's the exclusive bridge. But now social media, right,
Speaker 1: you know YouTube for example, you can go on YouTube
Speaker 1: and look at straight people from you know, people that's
Speaker 1: straight from the community and they're just talking. You can
Speaker 1: see their fashion, you can hear their lingo. You know,
Speaker 1: at one time hip hop artists, right, you had to
Speaker 1: be a refined person that you you you had to
Speaker 1: represent the whole community, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: like Easy E couldn't just be a representer of Kelly Park.
Speaker 1: He had to represent that whole area of Compton. And
Speaker 1: you know, he had to become skilled as a professional.
Speaker 1: You know, Corrupt couldn't just represent sixties. He had to
Speaker 1: represent South Central, just like ice Cube. Ice Cube couldn't
Speaker 1: represent one eleven. He had to represent all of South
Speaker 1: Central because you know, that's as close as people could
Speaker 1: get to the culture. And so with that shit, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, right, you had guys who were skilled,
Speaker 1: they were professionals and talents. Now if you on YouTube,
Speaker 1: it's niggas with no talent that you are absolving culture from.
Speaker 2: And now that they don't have to go to hip hop.
Speaker 1: You know, you used to cost you twenty dollars for
Speaker 1: the CD because you know what I'm saying, it's cost
Speaker 1: you twenty dollars or you had to or you had
Speaker 1: to pay for a concert. Now they've become Google free.
Speaker 3: They've become Google where there's no market of price to
Speaker 3: determine quality. So that's the theme of the book, like
Speaker 3: life after Google.
Speaker 2: Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 1: So what's happening is I realized, like, yo, this no
Speaker 1: longer is enough. Glasses showing up as a nigga from
Speaker 1: Watts and you know content, you know the West Coast
Speaker 1: showing up in Oklahoma City is not enough.
Speaker 2: Like, that's not enough culture.
Speaker 1: They can get that for free without coming to a
Speaker 1: concert paying fifty dollars. I need to bring comp than
Speaker 1: in wats three or four dimensions with me. If I'm
Speaker 1: going to go, it has to come with me, Like
Speaker 1: I have to bring way more of this upbringing this
Speaker 1: street urban culture with me. Or I need to bring
Speaker 1: you to street urban culture, like I can't just bring
Speaker 1: you here to see me. You have to come, see, smell,
Speaker 1: and taste this shit. I'm talking about this experience that
Speaker 1: that inspired if it's if it's my new album, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I need to bring you here
Speaker 1: and it has to be a full quality experience. That's
Speaker 1: how I gotten to the point of thinking where we
Speaker 1: were at with care now and where today's human is,
Speaker 1: you know, and most humans want to pay for for
Speaker 1: They only want to pay for a full quality experience.
Speaker 1: They do not want to swap their money no more
Speaker 1: for the shit that they've been buying for forty years,
Speaker 1: you know, they was paying for in nineteen ninety three
Speaker 1: or nineteen eighty seven. That is no longer enough. Because
Speaker 1: culture street urban culture is convenient as well.
Speaker 3: And yeah, and I think that there's another element to it,
Speaker 3: at least from my observation, you saw a pivot in
Speaker 3: hip hop from people who became successful talking about the
Speaker 3: struggle in the lack of success so to speak, versus
Speaker 3: people who became successful talented as they were talking about
Speaker 3: basically like braggadocious success stories. So then you get people
Speaker 3: like like the first high school I went to, rich
Speaker 3: kids with too much money, so they were able to
Speaker 3: relate to cash money record because they would go out
Speaker 3: and customize their cars and look just like cash money
Speaker 3: music videos, you know. So it went from talking about
Speaker 3: this is what's happened in the community, talking about why
Speaker 3: I'm so goddamn special because I made a bunch of
Speaker 3: money and bounced, And that became the theme of the
Speaker 3: genre for a lot of years, and people as we
Speaker 3: saw like it. And I won't name names, but we've
Speaker 3: been seeing a guy elected president on hope. People like hope,
Speaker 3: people like dreams, They like aspirations, even if they have
Speaker 3: no intent on actually doing what it takes to fulfill them.
Speaker 3: So if you can talk about looking on my designer
Speaker 3: shit and I did all this and no, no, no, d
Speaker 3: I mean how many times people you see reposts some
Speaker 3: success story by some guy they admire that they have
Speaker 3: no intention of doing any of that shit, but they're
Speaker 3: really inspired by it for thirty five seconds versus somebody
Speaker 3: talking about how hard it was. No one wants to
Speaker 3: hear about how hard it is.
Speaker 2: They just want to hear how good it is.
Speaker 3: They just want the results. They want the paycheck without
Speaker 3: the forty hours.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing that makes cash money records special. And
Speaker 1: I've been telling a lot.
Speaker 2: I'll be kicking on them, huh.
Speaker 3: I was just saying.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, I get it. No.
Speaker 1: But let me say this because I have been talking
Speaker 1: about this to a lot of younger artists, because when
Speaker 1: I tell them, a lot of younger artists are like,
Speaker 1: oh gee, but what about money? You know, I'm telling
Speaker 1: them like if I'm looking at a Blast video and
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, you know y'all got a Ferrari or
Speaker 1: if Roddy got a Ferrari or Lamborghini, I'm like, Yo,
Speaker 1: don't get caught up in that. Like I get it
Speaker 1: that that looks like that's the thing, right, But the
Speaker 1: catch is what made Cash Money different? Right, And somebody
Speaker 1: has been a fan of their rides, you know that's
Speaker 1: from the West. I've been messing with them since ninety
Speaker 1: six ninety seven as far as a fan the Big
Speaker 1: Timers first album. Right, The difference with Cash Money is
Speaker 1: they look like Project Niggas in Lamborghinis. And I don't
Speaker 1: mean their face. I don't mean they were black whities. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they were wearing white T shirts, Jabbo's and
Speaker 1: rebuy classics with bandanas, doing donuts in Lamborghinis.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's different like like in Wat's especially at that time,
Speaker 1: I was selling drugs and hanging out every day with
Speaker 1: homies and getting them shot out, shootouts, getting shot at,
Speaker 1: shooting people, going to jail. But you looked at Project
Speaker 1: Niggas having money that is dope, right, Yeah, But today
Speaker 1: what you see in hip hop is a bunch of
Speaker 1: douches wearing designer clothes in Ferraris, and I'm like, you
Speaker 1: just look like a douche in a fucking Ferrari And
Speaker 1: that's not.
Speaker 3: They looked like they looked like the kids that like
Speaker 3: I said that my first high school.
Speaker 1: You got a bunch of design like what you look
Speaker 1: like white people trying to act black.
Speaker 3: It's like, here's a good little stupid story, and it's
Speaker 3: and it's interesting for maybe listeners who aren't in the
Speaker 3: state of Florida. But we had a huge flood a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, if you might have seen it,
Speaker 3: it shut down all the gas pumping terminals at the port,
Speaker 3: so the Metropolitan ran out of gas, so you would
Speaker 3: I was low on gas. I had to go to
Speaker 3: like nine or ten gas stations before I could find
Speaker 3: a station that was actually selling gas and didn't have
Speaker 3: a line backed up one hundred yards down the street.
Speaker 3: So I get there and some dude wants to cut
Speaker 3: off all cars. He's, you know, mid twenties, is buff,
Speaker 3: he's tatted up, whatever the help, but he gets out
Speaker 3: He's got a designer hat, designer shoes, jeans, all that shit,
Speaker 3: and he carries a little handbag Gucci satchel, which obviously
Speaker 3: you're running around threatening people that hard. You got a
Speaker 3: gun in the satchel, Like, let's not kid around, sure,
Speaker 3: but it's a different type of look when you pull
Speaker 3: up in your lexus and jump out and start threatening
Speaker 3: people by gesturing to your Gucci satchel.
Speaker 2: Satchel.
Speaker 3: What was that movie on the Hangover?
Speaker 1: It's a puss, it's a press, it is a purse.
Speaker 1: And yeah, that is true, and that's the separation. So
Speaker 1: again it goes back into the same conversation of quality,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, where things are so convenient
Speaker 1: that they're losing quality and you can't sell things that
Speaker 1: are low quality unless you're McDonald's. Like right now, if
Speaker 1: you opened up a burger stand that sold burgers that
Speaker 1: was like McDonald's, you get laughed at.
Speaker 2: McDonald's.
Speaker 1: Is the only person in the world that could get
Speaker 1: away with them smashed bun cheeseburgers. I remember I went
Speaker 1: to McDonald's probably two months ago. I was with Jordan.
Speaker 1: She had got off work. I picked Jordan up. She
Speaker 1: was like, she wants to McDonald So I go to
Speaker 1: McDonald's and I say, she ordered her food.
Speaker 2: She gets some kind of nasty has spicy chicken sandwich
Speaker 2: and I order a cheese.
Speaker 1: I said, can I get two cheeseburgers without the buns smashed?
Speaker 1: And they was like, huh. I'm like, don't punch down
Speaker 1: on my fucking burgers. I want my buns to be
Speaker 1: like buns.
Speaker 3: So you were yelling out the window of your car,
Speaker 3: don't smashed down on my buns, okay, just to be.
Speaker 2: Clear, right.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm telling them this and you should
Speaker 1: have heard them, like they laugh, And I'm like, I know, oh,
Speaker 1: y'all up in this motherfucker punching down on the buns.
Speaker 1: Because every time I get a fucking cheeseburger, the buns
Speaker 1: look like they've been smashed down.
Speaker 3: They're like Peter bread.
Speaker 1: Imagine a new burger place sold that shit now, it
Speaker 1: could not happen.
Speaker 3: And additionally, you couldn't be a new burger place and
Speaker 3: get burgers off at three dollars a piece and make
Speaker 3: rest that's a good point if you're selling burgers at
Speaker 3: ten times. I go to the burger places I go to,
Speaker 3: they're not even great, they're good, they're ten eleven dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true, it's miserable.
Speaker 1: That's a good point, But that was my thought. It
Speaker 1: was like, we're at a place where attention is so convenient,
Speaker 1: it's so mass up. It's just abundantly available mass any girl,
Speaker 1: to the point where, like I heard people be like, Oh,
Speaker 1: they're showing me love on social media. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: they're not. They're showing you attention. And that's a tough
Speaker 1: place because, like I said, traditionally, attention was associated with
Speaker 1: love and care. This is twenty twenty three, Like motherfucking
Speaker 1: MacDonald's Cuz that's not food. Them likes on social media
Speaker 1: is not care, it's attention. I know, attention used to.
Speaker 2: A care.
Speaker 1: You know, care was attention was an agent of care. Well,
Speaker 1: MacDonald's used to be an agent of food. That shit
Speaker 1: is not happening no more.
Speaker 2: It's done.
Speaker 3: And I think part of that also is what's become
Speaker 3: convenient is attention. You can show somebody attention on social
Speaker 3: media while you're on your way to work or while
Speaker 3: you're at work. You used to have to dedicate time
Speaker 3: to attention, you know, Yeah, to give somebody an hour
Speaker 3: of attention might have taken you three actual hours an
Speaker 3: hour There an hour of attention and an hour back,
Speaker 3: and you couldn't do shit else. Now, yeah, you can
Speaker 3: do three other things and can give somebody attention on
Speaker 3: the side while you're waiting someone to hand to your
Speaker 3: punchdown buns.
Speaker 2: That's just what it is. That's a good boy. Well, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: You can like her buns while you don't like the
Speaker 3: ones you just bought.
Speaker 2: That is true, And she'd think it's love.
Speaker 3: Exactly, And so I was giving her one hundred dollars
Speaker 3: to validate that.
Speaker 1: So at that point, am I wrong for thinking that
Speaker 1: this version of human being is the worst version at all?
Speaker 1: Because this is the most this is the fakest version
Speaker 1: of people.
Speaker 3: It is the least dutiful, the least long viewed, the
Speaker 3: least character driven, the least everything. I mean, you could
Speaker 3: buy off some with a cheap Chinese made piece of
Speaker 3: plastic and thirty five fucking seconds.
Speaker 2: That's just the truth.
Speaker 3: I mean, we we even on a macro sense, we
Speaker 3: completely gutted like our manufacturing industry so that we could
Speaker 3: outsource everything while we barred and barred and barred against
Speaker 3: the dollar to try to push down on inflation on
Speaker 3: the supply side. By sending all of our supply sourcing
Speaker 3: overseas at the expense of the people who live here.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just from the micro to the macros.
Speaker 3: It's all the same psychology. It just depends on the scope,
Speaker 3: you know, to which it's applied.
Speaker 2: How long? How much longer can we go on like this?
Speaker 3: About six weeks?
Speaker 2: So we got left six we got very little left?
Speaker 3: Yeah, very little left?
Speaker 2: Can say we got six weeks? How about six weeks?
Speaker 2: Shits go to implode, it's over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Look at commercials every day, but like, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: how we gonna stop gun violence.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? The fact that.
Speaker 1: They made gun violence a thing, not violence, just gun
Speaker 1: violence or human beings on human beings. It's like, I
Speaker 1: promise you I genuinely believe all that they know, and
Speaker 1: they know people are stupid. So I've always said this
Speaker 1: politician's job are to the greatest politicians. Okay, so not
Speaker 1: the greatest, but the most liked politician, or I should
Speaker 1: say the best, because greatest and best. I think greatest
Speaker 1: is quantifiable with impact. I think best is favorable. You know,
Speaker 1: what you like or how many people like them, doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: the impact is just like I think the best presidents
Speaker 1: cater to human beings emotions totally.
Speaker 3: I mean, at this point, that's all that it's been for.
Speaker 3: I would say since the mid nineteen seventies.
Speaker 2: I would say president is responsible for this.
Speaker 3: I would say Carter and then Reagan came in and
Speaker 3: catered to a kickback in the opposite direction of a
Speaker 3: different emotional breakdown in a different population. And you have
Speaker 3: a sliver that shifted over. Oh, we felt good and
Speaker 3: warm and fuzzy about Carter's idiotic ideas, but made us
Speaker 3: feel like this is hopeful and we feel optimistic. Then
Speaker 3: it all failed. And then he came in and said, no,
Speaker 3: we need to do this and everything's going to be
Speaker 3: great and America's gonna be great again, Okay, and then
Speaker 3: go over there. And then Clinton comes in and sells
Speaker 3: bullshit and bullshit, and then Bush the second comes in
Speaker 3: and sells, you know, patriotism and other horseshit after the
Speaker 3: Clinton vision kind of expired on its own weight. And
Speaker 3: then Obama sells hope and dreams, and then Trump sells
Speaker 3: be patriotic again. Fuck the hope and dreams that it's
Speaker 3: not Yeah, you sell one group sells the app distract
Speaker 3: and the optimistic.
Speaker 1: The other group sells the reality and the immediate and
Speaker 1: the reality and historical.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, but one sells buoyance and one sells gravity.
Speaker 2: I want to say that one more time.
Speaker 3: One sells buoyance and one sells gravity.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's fucking great. Cuz, oh man, what
Speaker 1: are we gonna do? What are we gonna do with
Speaker 1: these last six weeks?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 1: Every conversation, Hold up, six weeks. We got six weeks left.
Speaker 1: Let me get that date, June fourth, So that makes uh, well,
Speaker 1: the so so that's June fifth, fifth, Okay, June fifth, one, two, three,
Speaker 1: four five yep, June yeah.
Speaker 2: So the end of the world is Juville. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: June tenth isn't going to be about an opaque delayed,
Speaker 3: the freeing of slaves and the word. It's gonna be
Speaker 3: about a opaq collapse of humanity. You were a few
Speaker 3: weeks late hearing about how it all ended.
Speaker 2: Oh fuck.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.