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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, it's your friend Josh. And for this week's select,

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Speaker 1: I've chosen the November twenty seventeen episode on toy testing.

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Speaker 1: It's a kid's dream job, definitely supposing they can circumnavigate

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Speaker 1: the confusing world of child labor laws. But it's a

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Speaker 1: nightmare to that kid's parents, as I stress multiple times

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Speaker 1: in this episode. So I hope I really got that across.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy it in good health.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's

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Speaker 1: Charles w Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry Rowling in there, and

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Speaker 1: this is stuff you should know for all the kiddies

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Speaker 1: out there. For the cats, the kiddies, there is a

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Speaker 1: d d Oh, gotcha, two d's and an ie.

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Speaker 2: Not kitties.

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Speaker 1: No, not kitties.

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Speaker 2: Not the Miamio.

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Speaker 1: Nice callback man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that was a good one.

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Speaker 1: Basalts probably should have mentioned that on the one for

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Speaker 1: the kiddies. Chuck, Yes, have you ever tested a toy?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Did you ever want to?

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Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, I mean I've done some product testing before

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Speaker 2: because I have a friend or had a friend that

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Speaker 2: worked in market research and She would occasionally hit me

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Speaker 2: up for a burger taste or a beer drink nice,

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Speaker 2: or a tool test, but never toys.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I'll bet the beer drink was fun.

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Speaker 2: It's great, drink a little beer and you get paid

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Speaker 2: like a hundred bucks?

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Speaker 1: Was she like? No, No, you can't swallow. You have

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Speaker 1: to swish it around in your mouth and spit it out.

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Speaker 2: Actually, most of the beer ones, the only one I did,

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Speaker 2: I think there was only one that was a taste.

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Speaker 2: A lot of times it's just like, what do you

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Speaker 2: think of this logo type of thing?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Really? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So like the beer wasn't even in the room with you.

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Speaker 1: No Ah, what a tease?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? They just throw things up and I just go

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Speaker 2: so boring?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, were you like you probably could have explained this

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Speaker 1: better when you asked me to test the beer.

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Speaker 2: Well you get that little envelope on a hundred bucks though,

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Speaker 2: so who cares? Oh? Nice?

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Speaker 1: Is that how much that pays?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes more?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes fifty. I did a frozen yogurt win for fifty

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Speaker 1: Very cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, cash money, yeah, why not?

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Speaker 1: You know you can go buy a lot of beer

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Speaker 1: with that totally. Well. I remember hearing about the idea

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Speaker 1: how how do I do this? And my parents were like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, we both work were busy. Go be

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Speaker 1: a latch key kid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially after the movie Big.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there was like a lot of toy testing

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I mean that was his job.

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Speaker 1: I forgot about that. Totally forgot about that. I just

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Speaker 1: remember the piano scene and then the scene at the end.

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Speaker 2: Well, they'll spoil it, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I said the scene at the end, Hopefully

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't spoil it. But it has something to do

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Speaker 1: So anyway, I remember wanting to be a toy tester

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Speaker 1: this article, especially during a little research, toy testing still

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Speaker 1: sounds awesome if you're a kid, oh yeah, But if

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Speaker 2: Uh what do you mean, like if your kid does that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like a lot of work, man, what.

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Speaker 2: Like getting the toy and having your kid play with it.

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Speaker 2: In other words, you have to take them out of

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Speaker 2: I never thought about it that way.

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Speaker 2: Think back then you had to literally depend on someone

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Speaker 1: Right or you had to like go show up at

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Speaker 1: a little further back, Chuck, because there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: different testing that goes on with toys. There's the kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, play with this toy, kid, what do you

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Speaker 2: Actually yeah, I mean toys have been around for thousands

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like a toy kitchen basically kitchen said.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, like little kids have always wanted to play

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Speaker 2: Well, it was like, well, you're five years old. Time

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Speaker 1: Just realized I keep referring to the kid, is it?

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Speaker 1: Yea his or her imagination, Like a broom becomes a

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Speaker 1: Or a nice ladle can become an electric guitar. Sure,

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Speaker 2: What my point was, Well, because of your imagination of

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Speaker 1: That's right, So thanks to industrialization and mass production, toys

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Speaker 2: Except back then the toys were highly likely to injure

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Speaker 1: There. I found this one stat from nineteen sixty eight,

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Speaker 1: Isn't that jaw dropping? Man first century is when they

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Speaker 1: So I saw this one. It was a guestimate, but

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Speaker 1: I saw seven hundred thousand injuries from toys in nineteen

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine what the packaging looked like on that onine.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Nick, He's like, right, flammable means flammable.

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Speaker 1: very tough to get kids pajamas that aren't flame retardant

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Speaker 2: Safety American standards for toy manufacturers. Oh maybe that's not bad, chuck,

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Speaker 2: Well sure, and they ostensibly have done the research on

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00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 2: like they really cover all their bases, like what what

442
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: could we imagine a child doing with this thing? You know?

443
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: I suspect that even as much time as they spend

444
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: doing that. Oh sure, kids still come up with some

445
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 1: whack stuff to do with toys.

446
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I told the story during the evil

447
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 2: Canevil thing, we used to make a coat hanger hoops

448
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 2: and dip them in gasoline.

449
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: I wish I would have known you back then so

450
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: I could stand there and watch that.

451
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: Man. Well you would have been putting on your we

452
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 2: would have been running the pyrotechnic for your Bonjobi concert.

453
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 2: Oh wow, thank Scott, and I would have been all

454
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 2: over that.

455
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's not too late.

456
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 2: That's true, all right. So that's toy making sure toys

457
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 2: are safe. Once a toy is safe, then there's this

458
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 2: whole second thing that we were kind of talking about

459
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Speaker 2: from the movie Big, Like the great scene when Tom

460
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: Hanks is first and grown up Josh Baskin is in

461
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Speaker 2: the office.

462
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: Did you look up his name or do you just

463
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: walk around knowing it?

464
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: No? No? Another movie Big Inside and Out?

465
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: Wow, is that one of your favorites?

466
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 2: Oh?

467
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: Sure, You've been running around asking people on movie Crush

468
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: with their favorite movie? Is what's yours?

469
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: Oh?

470
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: Is Big It?

471
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 2: No?

472
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: No?

473
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: No, but it's up there I love the movie Big,

474
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,959
Speaker 2: I've seen it a dozen times or more. Gotcha easily?

475
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: Josh Baskin, Yeah, so a little Josh Baskin's all grown

476
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 2: up in the office. And what's his name? Was it?

477
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 2: John Hurd that he recently passed away. He's the evil

478
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 2: corporate executive that has his idea and as I.

479
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Speaker 1: Remember his famous line, stop having fun.

480
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he makes his big presentation. I think it

481
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: was like a building that turns into a robot and

482
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Speaker 2: Tom Hanks very sweetly just raised his hands. I don't

483
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: get it. He's like, what do you mean? I don't

484
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 2: get it? And that's basically what they want to ask kids,

485
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 2: like do you want to play with this? Is it fun?

486
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: Like adults to design these things? And they might. I

487
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 2: would assume that if you're a toy designer, you have

488
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Speaker 2: a mind of a child to a certain degree, but

489
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 2: you're still not a kid. Yeah, it's got to pass

490
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: that test, right exactly.

491
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Speaker 1: That's the whole point of having toy testers. It's kids

492
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Speaker 1: like that's they're not adult toy testers. Maybe their parents

493
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: are there or something like that, but the whole point

494
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: of actual market development toy testing is by just giving

495
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: kids some toys and seeing what they do with it.

496
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Speaker 1: That's right, and there's a lot of a lot of

497
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Speaker 1: places that do this right, Like apparently Mattel has something

498
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Speaker 1: called the Mattel Imagination Center in El Segundo. And if

499
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Speaker 1: you live around El Segundo or willing to travel to

500
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Speaker 1: El Segundo, and you have a child that's zero to thirteen,

501
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: there's a pretty high likelihood that you will be able

502
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Speaker 1: to get into the door and your kid will be

503
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: able to play with some toys and be watched by

504
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Speaker 1: scientists behind two way mirrors. But that's pretty I mean,

505
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: that's a little I think that's pretty close to reality.

506
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: I think the places where you go to actually test

507
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: on site with toys are a little more fun than

508
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: like a like a room with a two way mirror,

509
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: but it's still the same principle. Generally you're being observed

510
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: while you're playing with toys as a kid.

511
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's to get these gigs the dream job

512
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: for a kid or I guess you think the job

513
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 2: from hell for a parent. Pay attention, Like sometimes they

514
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 2: might get in touch with you. Sometimes you might can

515
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 2: follow the social media page of like the Mattel Imagination

516
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 2: Imagination Center they. I mean, if you just google toy

517
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 2: testing jobs, there are pages and pages on places where

518
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: you can submit your name and it's you know, from there.

519
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 2: It's probably a bit of a lottery like experience, depending

520
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: on what exactly they're looking for. Like you might fit

521
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 2: your kid might fit a demographic, but there's still a

522
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 2: lot of kids in that demo that they have sip through.

523
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: So it's not like you can say, you know, don't

524
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: promise your kid you can get them a job as

525
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 2: a toy tester.

526
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: Right, well, oh yeah, you may want to not in.

527
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: I don't even tell them that that's a job right

528
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 2: until you've secured it.

529
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: Just don't even say the word toy around your kid.

530
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

531
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: So there's that's there's the old school way is like

532
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: going directly to the company, like to go to Mattel

533
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: or Fisher Price maintain something called it's play Lab, and

534
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: you can email these companies directly basically send your kids resume,

535
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: maybe a video of your kid playing with a toy.

536
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: What they would be looking for, Like you said, they

537
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: might be looking for a certain demographic, but they more

538
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: often than not if they're just looking for like a

539
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: go to toy tester to where your kid actually has

540
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: the job of being a toy tester, where somebody, some

541
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: company or companies are mailing your kid toys to test you.

542
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: You basically need to audition for that, and you would

543
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: want to include a video and that your kid in

544
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: the video would want to be using like coherent words

545
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: that express how he or she's feeling about that toy

546
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: at that moment. Yeah, and you may get picked up.

547
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: That's the old school way of doing it. Although if

548
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: you want to do super old school like use a

549
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: video camera and send in like a VHS tape of

550
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: your kid playing with the toy, that's the old school

551
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: way of doing it. Now, you can go onto social media,

552
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: like you were saying, Chuck, and there's a lot it's

553
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: a lot easier for companies to reach out in a

554
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: targeted way to basically tap kids to become toy testers.

555
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you are a mom, mommy blogs are huge.

556
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: They are huge on the Internet and they get sent

557
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: everything from you know, baby products that they can use

558
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: to mommy products to toys. So tell your mom start

559
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: a blog, become a top blogger, and she'll thank you

560
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: because then she'll be rich.

561
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, say, mom, start a viral blog to day.

562
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: Who is it? Ellen DeGeneres has a show feature where

563
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: she has these kids that come out and test toys

564
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: on TV. You're not gonna get that job because these

565
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: two kids already have it.

566
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: Well, that one of the kids. I'm not sure what

567
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: Trey Hart's background was, but Noah Ritter, he was the

568
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: apparently kid on Alan Remember him?

569
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: Nope?

570
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: He came off ride and was asked by a local

571
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: newsperson like what he thought of the ride? And he's like, well,

572
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: apparently I thought it was great. It had me scared

573
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: half to death. You've ever seen the video of that kid?

574
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: No?

575
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: Oh, it's beyond adorable. Yeah, he's one of the two

576
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: toy testers. Now, oh so that's how he got that gig. Yes,

577
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: good for him.

578
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: What else? You can start a YouTube channel? There are

579
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: actual kids out there with their own YouTube channels where

580
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: they test toys. And beyond that, I want to recommend

581
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: have you ever seen our buddy Joe Randazzo's Lego Dude reviews? Yeah?

582
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: Have I don't know if you have to be a

583
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: friend to Joe or not, but go out there and

584
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: look at Lego Dude reviews, Lego City Logging, truck and

585
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: our friend Joe formerly of The Onion and formally of

586
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: at Midnight Fame, our comedian writer friend. It's just the

587
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: funniest thing I've ever seen. And it doesn't translate to

588
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: everyone because there are comments like is this guy for real? Right?

589
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's doing it straight.

590
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like all those reviews, like they start

591
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: off with the box that it comes in, and so

592
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: Joe starts off with the box and how well taped

593
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: up it is. It's just really funny.

594
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a nice, nice spoof Lego.

595
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: Dude reviews and there are all kinds of those, but

596
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: specifically Lego City Logging Truck, and you'll just see that

597
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: sweet face of Joe's and you'll know it's him. But

598
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: there is a boy called well, I don't know what

599
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: his full name is. Was Evan Tube HD is a

600
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: YouTube channel. Yeah.

601
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: He and his sister do reviews.

602
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he is. He has four and a half

603
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: million subscribers.

604
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: Is that as of today?

605
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, four point six.

606
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: I noticed that they did like a pizza challenge where

607
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: they just put weird stuff on pizza and it has

608
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: like sixty five million views.

609
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

610
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: It is unbelievable. It's crazy, Chuck. You if you ask

611
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: somebody like back in nineteen eighty to conceive of like

612
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: what TV's like in the future, and they said, it's

613
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: people just opening up toys on on TV and that's it,

614
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: you'd be like, that's a pretty good, pretty good description.

615
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: I would buy that. Well the futures.

616
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: Now, well there's the other one, the Disney collector br.

617
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: Right, this is who I'm talking about.

618
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: Nine and a half million subscribers, and like you said,

619
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: there it is literally nothing but the hands of some woman,

620
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: some anonymous uh robot ai creature.

621
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: Right.

622
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: No, it's a real person's opening up toys and playing

623
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: with them and talking a little bit in a very

624
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: creepy voice. If you ask me, I think it's great.

625
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: You think the voice is great, dude, Yeah, Pepa pig.

626
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: It creeped me out.

627
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: Oh I liked it. Her Okay. So her name probably

628
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: is Vera Creditio.

629
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: Uh a woman, vera money bags.

630
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, a woman. Yeah, get this, she's even more wealthy

631
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: than you realize. She's a woman in winter Park, Florida.

632
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: If that's her, then that's so that's that's supposedly her

633
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: and her husband Messius Creddio.

634
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: Okay, he has.

635
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: Something called Blue Toys Club Surprise, which is the boys

636
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: version basically uh huh of Disney Collector br and together,

637
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: they seriously are probably clearing twenty plus million dollars a year,

638
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: making a video every day and uploading it. And she

639
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: will say pepai or something like that and say what

640
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: it is the product that she's holding or opening or

641
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: playing with or whatever, and that like that's it.

642
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: Man.

643
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: It's like you were saying, like all you see are

644
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: her hands, she's opening the packaging. She's actually really good

645
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: at opening packaging. She never gets frustrated. I didn't see her,

646
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: Like I didn't see them have to cut and like

647
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: there was no jump cut or anything like that. She's

648
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: really good at opening packaging. And then she kind of

649
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: says what it is out loud and then just like

650
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: sets it down to the side, and I was watching

651
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: it like, this is ridiculous. This is the first ten seconds.

652
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: This is ridiculous. People actually watch this. I can't believe this.

653
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: And then the next thing I knew, the next four

654
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: minutes were me sitting there with my mouth kind of

655
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: open a little bit. Yeah, just zoned out watching this.

656
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: I think that's the whole point. It's kids love it.

657
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: Toddler's love watching stuff.

658
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: I can see why. Yeah, her husband though, or I

659
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: should say Blue Toys Club, surprise, he didn't talk at all.

660
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: And then I find a little creepy.

661
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: He just breathes heavily.

662
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: He did. He just like plays with them. He plays

663
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: with them more than she does. She just opens them.

664
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: He opens them and plays with them. But he doesn't talk.

665
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: But again, you just see the hands. Yeah, twenty million

666
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: dollars a year.

667
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a world.

668
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: It is quite a world. It's the future, all right.

669
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: Should we take another break? Yes, all right, let's do that,

670
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: and we're going to come back and finish up with

671
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: a little fun with some of the most dangerous toys

672
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: of all time right after this.

673
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 1: Okay, we're back, man, Are you ready?

674
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: I'm ready?

675
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 1: So this, this list could go on for years.

676
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are lots of list like this out there.

677
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: So this and it's not meant to be comprehensive. This

678
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: is just a selection of some of our favorites. Doujour

679
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: huh sure? So one that I saw was the snack

680
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: Time Kid cabbage patch doll, yes, which you could feed

681
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: real stuff to that in the ad they feed, like

682
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: the cabbage patch kid a French fry or two, or

683
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: maybe I think it came with food, That's what it was.

684
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: It came with food and you could feed it and

685
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: it would just keep chewing and swallow and then bam,

686
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: the plastic French fry was gone. Your cabbage patch kid

687
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: just ate a French fry, can you believe it? And

688
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: that was the whole thing, right, Yeah. But they would

689
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: chew no matter what was placed in their mouth. Yeah,

690
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: like fingers or hair, right, and they wouldn't stop either. Yeah,

691
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: So your little kid could end up with like a

692
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: crushed finger or lose a big tuft of hair, and

693
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: the cabbage patch kid would just be all fitts and elbows,

694
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: say more and more, give me more.

695
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's something for your nightmares. There's a

696
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: cabbage patch kid just chewing their way towards.

697
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: You, exactly connected by your hair to you.

698
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: So that was recalled by Mattel in nineteen ninety seven. Yep,

699
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: So they did the right thing there.

700
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did. Probably The most famous one of all

701
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: time is lawn darts.

702
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, lawn darts. I played it when I was a kid.

703
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: If you haven't seen lawn darts just you're of a

704
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: newer generation, just google it, and they were you. You

705
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: would have two big kind of hula hoop rings, kind

706
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: of like a horseshoe game, and you would launch these large, plastic,

707
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 2: sharpish darts.

708
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: Plastic on one end.

709
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, the fins were plastic. Yeah, the stick part or

710
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: the what would you call that, the dead end, the pizzer, sure, yeah,

711
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: was metal and it was sharpish. It wasn't like a

712
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: you know, like a razor or anything, but it was

713
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: sharp enough to where if you launch this thing from

714
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: across the yard and you look up and go, I

715
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 2: can't see it. It's in the sun, all of a sudden,

716
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: it's in your eyeball. Yeah, and you're blind.

717
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that happened to some people. Like people were getting

718
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: injured by these things. Apparently there were seven thousand reported

719
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: injuries from lawn darts. What'd you call them jarts?

720
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: Mmm? No, I never said that.

721
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: I thought you call them jarts earlier.

722
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: No, okay, that is a thing. Though I've heard of jarts.

723
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: What are those?

724
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 1: I thought that was the same thing.

725
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: It may be the same, So maybe that was the

726
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:32,959
Speaker 2: brand name.

727
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not sure, but they were banned. Actually, they

728
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: didn't even have a chance to be recalled. They were

729
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: banned in nineteen eighty eight. So it is illegal to manufacture, sell, possess,

730
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: and certainly play with lawn darts in the US by

731
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: punishment of death by lawn darts.

732
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: Yes, I just looked up quickly. By the way, Jarts

733
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: was the brand name. Oh, okay for at least one

734
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 2: of them. I'm sure there was more than one kind.

735
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: There definitely was, because the one I saw was Franklin

736
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: yard Darts. Franklin, they made the shuttlecocks that my family

737
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: used to play badminton with. Did you know I was

738
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: like a world class badminton player. I'm just learning so

739
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: much today now that I think about it. World class

740
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: is probably misleading.

741
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: Neighborhood class.

742
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: Neighborhood class for sure, Yet right, I could destroy the

743
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: neighborhood at least.

744
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will still play a game of badminton. My

745
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: brother set one up a couple of years ago.

746
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: Of course, how'd you do?

747
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: It? Was okay?

748
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: Good enough?

749
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

750
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: So have you ever watched it? Like Olympic badminton?

751
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: Oh, it's it's awesome.

752
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: It's so crazy, it is amazing.

753
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: But I can't even follow it. I'm just they might

754
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: as they could be out there faking like there is

755
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: no shuttle cock and I would never know.

756
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. The only way it could get better is if

757
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: Disney collector b R commented on it but didn't even

758
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 1: talk about what was going on. She just said extra squeeze,

759
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: all right.

760
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 2: So this next one is actually these next two are

761
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: legit scary. The Atomic Energy Laboratory. In nineteen fifty one, A. C.

762
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: Gilbert and vented the Erector set and he released this

763
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: energy lab like a it was sort of like a

764
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: little chemistry lab set thing, but it actually had uranium.

765
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: It had real radioactive materials. Yeah, so you could see

766
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: like you could create mistrails and things. Yeah.

767
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: It was like a chemistry set for kids, but with radioactivity.

768
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: That was the point of it. This is at a

769
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: time when the government was like, no, no, it's all fun.

770
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: Radioactivity is fine. It's good for you. It gives you

771
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: a healthy glow.

772
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the next one the CSI Fingerprint Examination Kit.

773
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: This was on Ion nine's list was the number two

774
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: most dangerous toy of all time.

775
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: Yes, I think also thanks for saying that the last

776
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: three were from the band toy museum online.

777
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we said all these and I looked at

778
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 2: a bunch of these lists and it's mostly the same stuff.

779
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: Sure is good to know that it's not you know,

780
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: like there's really one hundred things and we're just picking our.

781
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: Favorite, right exactly.

782
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 2: So the CSI Fingerprint Examination Kit, you could play CSI

783
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: you could dust for fingerprints with trimolite, which is one

784
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: of the deadliest kinds of asbestos. The powder that you

785
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 2: used to dust had about seven percent trimolite, and this

786
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 2: was really scary and it's amazing that it got through

787
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 2: because this was not the nineteen fifties.

788
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it was just like the early two thousands,

789
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: I believe, because it was a CSI brand fingerprinting kit.

790
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: And I guess so I saw that that what is

791
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: it tremolite? Yeah, is a it's an actual like I

792
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: think they used actual fingerprint dust and that's like part

793
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: of something that fingerprint technicians have to work with, is

794
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: this asbestos. But they packaged it up and sold it

795
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: for kids, and the company went bankrupt pretty quickly.

796
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would imagine.

797
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: So what about Bucky Balls. It's kind of a legendary one.

798
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: You remember those, Yeah, I didn't know that these had

799
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: a bad ending, because I remember my nephew and niece

800
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: got Bucky balls for Christmas whenever, I mean not too

801
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: long ago, and they were awesome and cool and I

802
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,959
Speaker 2: played with them like crazy at their house.

803
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're fun. Were great. They're like ball bearings that

804
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: are super strong magnet.

805
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, it's really neat.

806
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: So far, so good. You can build stuff out of them,

807
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: you can hold stuff to a refrigerator with them, whatever

808
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: you want to do. It's just a great round magnet.

809
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: But the problem is is that if you swallowed more

810
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: than one, you could be in big trouble because these

811
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: things were very strong magnets, and if you had one

812
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: in your intestine and another one and a part of

813
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: a different part of your intestine, they would come together

814
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: and your intestine would be pinched off right there.

815
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this actually happened to the extent where about

816
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: a thousand or so kids required surgery to get these out.

817
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: And they were a big hit. It was kind of

818
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 2: one of those, uh, just one of those Christmas toys

819
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: that really captured Yeah, I must have Christmas toy. And

820
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: I guess the inventor did not want to acknowledge this,

821
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: so he basically said, I'm not recalling these. These are

822
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: a hot item. The federal government sued him. He dissolved

823
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: his company instead of funding a recall, and so they

824
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: went after him personally to try and get fifty seven

825
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: million bucks out of them.

826
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, supposedly settled for about one percent of that. Yeah,

827
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: I know, fifty seven million down to.

828
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: What five hundred and seventy thousand, right, Yeah, that's.

829
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: That was my calculation too, But I was like, that's

830
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: so small. I'm not very confident about saying it out loud.

831
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: Thank you for swooping in.

832
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's right. I didn't calculate it, and

833
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: I'm terrible at math.

834
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: We'll find out I am too, buddy. And look look

835
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: how far we've gotten in life. Yeah, it's five seven,

836
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: So thank you for using the coca sure. And then lastly, Chuck,

837
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: we've mentioned it before. We mentioned the prototype four it

838
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: that was banned, the Easy Bake oven itself, the famous

839
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: one that was in the National Toy Hall of Fame

840
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: in two thousand and six, was itself banned?

841
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one did not. So was that the deal

842
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: with the other one that was a prototype?

843
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: No? No, it was like a predecessor too, Okay, I

844
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: guess that is what I mean.

845
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the easy Bake oven never got up to

846
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: six hundred degrees No, but.

847
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: It got up to two hundred degrees cel c s

848
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: four hundred degrees paraheight. That's you don't bake anything that

849
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: like that much like that hot? That is hot.

850
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you could cook a pizza in that thing.

851
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: Yes, not well, but you could, yes, if.

852
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: You had time. Sure, But they had some problems with

853
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: them over the years. I mean, this is a is

854
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: a like you said, a Hall of Fame toy that's

855
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 2: been around forever and beloved by boys and girls for generations.

856
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: And two hundred and fifty incidents reported sixteen cases of

857
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 2: second or third degree burns.

858
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there was specifically a design flaw that got

859
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: little kid's fingers trapped in the oven when it was hot. Yeah,

860
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: and one little girl apparently had to undergo a partial

861
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: finger amputation, says I Owe nine.

862
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 2: Very sad.

863
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: It is sad, But we wouldn't know about this stuff

864
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: if it weren't for consumer protection. And I guess that's

865
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: the moral of the story. That's becoming the moral of

866
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: the story lately. Our Restaurant Inspector's episode. Oh yeah, now

867
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: toy testing.

868
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Good point.

869
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: If you want to know more about toy testing, you

870
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: can type those two words into the search bar at

871
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: House of Forks dot common and it'll bring up an article.

872
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: And since I said that it's time for listener mail.

873
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call this something we missed in the Foyer episode.

874
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: Hey guys, long time stener, first time writer, just listen

875
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 2: to the Freedom of Information Act episode acknowledge this. He's

876
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: a little behind and I wanted to bring something to

877
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 2: your attention. Many states have laws modeled after the FOYA,

878
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: and there's a disturbing trend the last few years. There

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Speaker 2: are many special interest groups and activists out there that

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Speaker 2: have begun using Foyer requests to stall legitimate research.

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Speaker 1: This sounds familiar, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: With facilities having hundreds of terabytes of data to potentially

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Speaker 2: sift through, complying with a request or say every inter

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Speaker 2: departmental email from twenty to twenty seventeen, they can completely

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Speaker 2: shut down an operation with only a handful of researchers.

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Speaker 2: Another tactic is to cherry pick from tons upon tons

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Speaker 2: of data to attempt to piece together an argument to

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Speaker 2: discredit unfavorable study results. The group's making the request know this,

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Speaker 2: so it's a win win for them. They get tons

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Speaker 2: of private emails to look through to spend into something nefarious,

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Speaker 2: and even if and when they find nothing, they still

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Speaker 2: throw a wrench into legitimate research. And how about that man?

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Speaker 2: He said he was a little disappointed we didn't mention it.

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Speaker 2: But first of all, Brandon, I didn't know about this,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, same here, Brandon Ley. That's why. But he said,

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Speaker 2: you guys, I realize you focus more on the federal version,

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Speaker 2: so that's not much of an issue there, So let

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Speaker 2: us off the hope. Yeah, he Since you guys are awesome,

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Speaker 2: keep up the great work. Sincerely, guy you should Know,

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Speaker 2: Brandon Benzac.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Brandon. That was pretty smart. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: letting us know so we could, in turn let everybody

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Speaker 1: else know terrible stuff. Yep, I gotta look into that now.

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Speaker 1: If you want to alert us to something that we

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Speaker 1: walked right past, please do we always want to know

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Speaker 1: that kind of thing. You could send us an email

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