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He is he's moving 33 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: homes or buy. He bought a house. He's starting to 34 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: move his stuff into set house in This week has 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: been quite hectic for him. 36 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: I can tell you this. 37 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: They've put a new flooring and it looks great, really 38 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: really solid new. I think it's hardwood flooring. And I've 39 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: seen pictures of the house. Tie and solid Kate a 40 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: doing a They are doing a bang up job. He's 41 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: building out the new studio probably as we speak. So 42 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: I decided to turn to a guest a not really 43 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: a guest host, but having a guest on to talk 44 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: really whatever I want now that I have been placed 45 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 1: in charge of this show, and so we're bringing in 46 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: our new pal, Mike Gollock Junior from ESPN, ESPN Radio. 47 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: He's been all over the place because obviously we used 48 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: him as our patsy for last week's secret verbal, in 49 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: which many many of you tweeted at him congratulating him 50 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: on his new collaboration with Lacroix, the Sparkling water Giant. 51 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: He was dumbfounded and confused by untraceable tweets regarding a 52 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: beverage collaboration, but nonetheless honored. So I sent him a 53 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: message and asked if he would come on to talk 54 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: college football and beverages, and lo and behold, we were 55 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: friends now and that's amazing. So we had a good 56 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: time speaking. It's going to start momentarily, but before it does, 57 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: just some quick housekeeping other than the fact that Tie 58 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: is really housekeeping. As we speak with solid wife Kate, 59 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: we are going to be releasing merch. This show is 60 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: being recorded if you're not paying attention in mid May, 61 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: we're going to be releasing merch, hopefully by the end 62 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: of May, if not early to mid June. We promised, 63 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: we swear they're going to be shirts plural, They're going 64 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: to be hats. They are going to be I'm pushing 65 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: for mugs, but a more robust store. I think it's 66 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: going to be more dependable than previous offerings in terms 67 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: of you order, it gets shipped and there are no 68 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: issues fingers crossed. I can't make promises, but it appears 69 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: that it's going to be more dependable, so we're very 70 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: excited about that. The designs are really good. This is 71 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: going to be sort of a fluid thing. We're going 72 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 1: to be adding to the store every so often. I'm 73 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: hoping with some school related stuff for people to enjoy 74 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: their their. 75 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 2: Tribal rooting interests. Always fun. 76 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: So we are quite excited about the store that we're 77 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: going to be launching soon. The live show is still 78 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 1: on for Chicago. We just need to figure out where 79 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: it's going to be in Chicago, and once again we've 80 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: narrowed it down to a couple of places, but by 81 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: all means, it's not too late if you have any 82 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: suggestions for us in Chicago. That will be in mid August. 83 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: That'll be our fantasy Things draft it'll be a great time. 84 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: We've sold out the past couple shows nearly immediately, so 85 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: it's getting bigger and better. We will have guests and 86 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: we'll have a ton of fun. There will be drinks, 87 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: there will be food. It is can't miss if you are, 88 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: I guess in the greater Chicagoland area or beyond in 89 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: the Midwest, because everything's a lot closer than I knew 90 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: growing up in California, because everything is so far away. 91 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: So we hope to see you there. 92 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: And we're going to try our best to add a 93 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,119 Speaker 1: couple of other live show dates around the country around 94 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: the beginning of the season late summer as well, so 95 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: keep on the lookout for that and those details will 96 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: be announced via the newsletter of intent. You can sign 97 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: up for that on solid verbal dot com. We will 98 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: be releasing newsletters throughout the season and with information about 99 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: live show, so do check that out. And this is 100 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: not an official announcement, but you should know that Ty 101 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: and I are talking about adding a bunch of new 102 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: elements this fall. And if you are interested in taking 103 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: a survey, if you are an enthusiastic listener and consumer 104 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: of all things Solid Verbal, we really do want your 105 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: feedback as to how you consume the show and how 106 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: you listen and where you listen to what you're interested in, 107 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: you know as a college football media fan, so let 108 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: us know if you're interested in filling out like a 109 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: two minute survey, so we can have a better idea 110 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: of how to better serve anybody that is interested and 111 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: enjoys listening to the solid verbal. And that's it. That's 112 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: everything I have. It's getting warm in New York and 113 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm wearing pants and that was a big, big mistake. 114 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: So let's get into it. Mike Golick Junior from ESPN 115 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: The Greatest of Sports, here we go. And with that 116 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: it is my a men's pleasure, especially since time mister 117 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: Notre Dame is not on today's show to bring in 118 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: from ESPN, ESPN Radio, ESPN dot com. Mists is a personality. 119 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: He's a talker and a Notre Dame alum. Mike Golick Junior, 120 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: How's life. 121 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: White is good? I can't complain. Talker is probably the 122 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 3: best most apt way to describe me. Like That's when 123 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: I always tell people I got into this business because 124 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: I can't shut up, and so I need someone to 125 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: pay me to do that. 126 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: Fair same and we had a little bit of we've 127 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: never met as far as I think we know, and 128 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: we just decided this is something we do on the 129 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: show called the secret verbal to if somebody is still 130 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: listening at the end of a very long, pointless show. 131 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: To have our listeners tweet at somebody we like so 132 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: generally connected to the college football world, which you most 133 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: certainly are, a random, inoffensive message that is very confusing 134 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: and completely untraceable. And last week we had everybody congratulate 135 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: you on your upcoming collaboration with Sparkling Water, Giant Lacroix. 136 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 2: How is that? 137 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: Let me tell you what. First off, I really need 138 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 3: to now make this happen with the Lacroix people because 139 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: of some great flavor ideas that I think we can enact. 140 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: But this is a testament to you, because you have 141 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: a lot of people that stick around and listen late 142 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: into the podcast. I thought I was the victim of 143 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 3: some sort of like Russian bot scandal where they had 144 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: homed in on me and just had the keyword Lacroix 145 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: thrown in there. I was baffled until I saw you 146 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: guys start tweeting at me. So job well done, you 147 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: must be. You've got a great podcast here. 148 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: Do you like Lacroix? Do you like Sparkling Water? 149 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: Is this something that made sense on any level for you? 150 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: No? I mean, couldn't be more off brand, But that 151 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: being said, I'm willing to roll with it. Like there 152 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: are very few things I'm ever going to admit or 153 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: outside of my umbrella. So Lacroix is something I just 154 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: didn't know it was underneath the umbrella until then. But 155 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 3: I'm happy to have it in here. It's found a 156 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: safe harbor with everything else that I consume, which is 157 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:42,239 Speaker 3: a lot. 158 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: Sure, what is your beverage of choice for something like 159 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: a soft drink or water, something refreshing during the day 160 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: that you would want to sip on, like a summer 161 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: porch or pool side or something like that. 162 00:07:55,240 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: Iced coffee. I am the I like all during like 163 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: it's not even a summer day. Like I've and myself, 164 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: Randy Scott who works at ESPN, and a couple of 165 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: our other our friends of the Worldwide Leader have taken 166 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 3: to adopting cold brew as a year round beverage. A 167 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: lot of people shy away from it during Bristol winners, 168 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: but I'm not amongst that. I want to be able 169 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: to basically shotgun every coffee that I drink, and so 170 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: I'm staring at a newly finished spenty cold brew from 171 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: Starbucks right now, and that would probably be the number 172 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: one thing you'd be most likely to see me drinking 173 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: in any given day. 174 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: I knew there was there was electricity between this show 175 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: and you because I am also team ice coffee or 176 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: cold brew year round. I find it refreshing no matter 177 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: the temperature. And it's actually something we've discussed on the show. 178 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: Do you know what a coffee nap is? 179 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: A coffee nap? 180 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: A coffee nap an ap? 181 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 3: I do not. 182 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: Okay, So basically, and this is what we'll do during 183 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: the color I'll speak for myself. What I'll do during 184 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: the college football season is when there is that window 185 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: where there's a lull where games aren't ending or there's 186 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: not a huge game happening. Usually it's in like the 187 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: three forty five four to twenty pm window Eastern time. 188 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: What you do is you basically chug an ice coffee 189 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: and then you take like a twenty minute nap, because 190 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: twenty minutes is the amount of time it takes for 191 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: caffeine to get into your bloodstream and affect you and 192 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: give you that jolt. So when you couple that with 193 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: a twenty ish minute nap, when you wake up, you 194 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: are shot out of a cannon and you are ready 195 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: for pack twelve games until two am. 196 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: It's incredible. 197 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: I think you honestly just changed my life. Yes, like, 198 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 3: as someone who is tinkered with various nap schedules because 199 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: of the early morning hours of my shows, this revelation 200 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: is enough to like honestly optimize my performance in a 201 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: way that I didn't know existed right now. So from 202 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: the bottom of my heart, thank you for this revelation. 203 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: Is it is truly my honor to change your life. 204 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: And with that, yeah, it is incredible. 205 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: It really is. 206 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: You pop out of there and you are ready for 207 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: that three point thirty Eastern or that weird SEC ESPN too, 208 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: like South Carolina Missouri. It's not quite primetime, but it's 209 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: just like your your focus is becomes laser like. 210 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: It's incredible. 211 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: That really is. It's the perfect supercharger. This is this 212 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: is this is the hell of a day. Right now. 213 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 3: I'm marking this one down in a diary. 214 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: Please keep us posted as for how it works out 215 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: during the season, it would be an honor to find out. 216 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: So with that you cover college football among other sports, 217 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: but obviously your background having played for Notre Dame as 218 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: recently as I want to say you were there twenty twelve. 219 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 3: Twenty twelve, that was my last fall on campus. 220 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so that makes you Are you twenty six? Are 221 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: you twenty five? 222 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 3: Twenty eight? 223 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: Oh my god, are you really twenty eight? 224 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 225 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so twenty eight, so you okay, so you 226 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: would have been I don't even remember what year it is. 227 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: You would have been twenty two and twenty twelve. So 228 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: you're a college football guy. This is a college football podcast, 229 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: and I think it's always dumb when people have very 230 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: serious conversations in the middle of May. So I'm gonna 231 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: ask you as broad a question as I can. What 232 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: are you excited for this fall? What has your juices 233 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: going other than coffee napps as it relates to the 234 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen season. 235 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, other than coffee apps. I mean for me right 236 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: now and especially coming off draft season. This is sort 237 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 3: of an easy thing to pluck from. But all we've 238 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 3: started to see, like the most hilarious thing in May, 239 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: like you said, is to already start predicting next year's draft. 240 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: But you look at because our draft experts are forced 241 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: to put out these mocks because they're chained in a 242 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 3: room and it's demanded of them by our experts and 243 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: higher ups. So they pump out these lists and it's 244 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: so flooded with these unbelievable defensive linemen that we know 245 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: we're all either underclassmen or guys that decided to come back, 246 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 3: like the entire Clemson defensive line basically, So to see 247 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: this year's onslaught of defensive linemen because I think last year, 248 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: especially on the interior, you saw a lot of really 249 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: quality offensive linemen that ended up going out in the draft. 250 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: I mean, we had maybe the most talked about guard 251 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 3: and the history of college football, at least in that 252 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: you know, in my lifetime, in Quinton Nelson coming out. 253 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: But just in general, I thought there was a lot 254 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: of quality on that front. And I think this year, 255 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: so much of that focus shifts over to the defensive 256 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: defensive front and just to get to see those guys 257 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: someone who tends to hone in on that area in general. 258 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: You know, in addition to having played offensive line, I 259 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 3: vote on the Joe Moore Award, which is the college 260 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 3: football award awarded to the top offensive line unit sure 261 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 3: in the sport, and so I spend a lot of 262 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: time just focused on that area in general. So to 263 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 3: see some of those battles and some of the premier 264 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 3: conferences in college football. This year is gonna be a 265 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 3: lot of fun. 266 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: Okay, anywhere outside of the defensive line, any teams, any 267 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: new coaches, any returning quarterbacks, any storylines that you know 268 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: you're just you have no idea what's going to happen 269 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: that you know has already started tickling the back of 270 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: your brain. 271 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 3: I mean, the one I'm personally most concerned about is 272 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 3: Shaye Patterson. Now, like happy for him as someone who's 273 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: always the proponents of college football player rights and watched 274 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 3: him struggle this offseason to secure eligibility for this fall. 275 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: Seeing him get that warms my heart in that sense, 276 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 3: but also makes me very nervous as a Notre Dame 277 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 3: fan who knows that rivalry's back on and has enjoyed 278 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 3: watching Michigan struggle under Jim Harbaugh at the quarterback position 279 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 3: for the last few years. So knowing they've got a 280 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 3: more potent passer certainly is a bit unnerving as we 281 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: get ready to set that rivalry back up. But as 282 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: far as quarterback, I'm excited to watch this season just 283 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: because I got a chance to cover him when they 284 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: played at Kansas State, but Will Greer in West Virginia 285 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: football Jesus who unfortunately trimmed the locks. Just such a 286 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: talented arm and a guy in that West virgin Virginia 287 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: offense with Dana Holgerson that was so potent last season, 288 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: and knowing he's going to be another one of those 289 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: guys that probably climbs draft boards as we look forward 290 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 3: towards this season, seeing him in West Virginia and that 291 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: offense are capable of doing, and how that improves the 292 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: conversation around him through this season is going to be 293 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 3: fun to watch. 294 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: Did you see I want to say there's a West 295 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: Virginia receiver who was arrested and there's a mug shot 296 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: up that it is such an intense mullet that it 297 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: may make up for Will Greer cutting that hair. If 298 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: you haven't seen it, I could not more enthusiastically recommend it. 299 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 3: I am currently Google searching this right now. 300 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: I wanted God, I forgot his name, West Virginia mullet 301 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: football receiver. God, you know Google is going to have 302 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: data on me that it's Anthony del Percio. This happened 303 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: nineteen hours ago, and there's so much business on the front. 304 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: It's like a startup essentially in the front, and a 305 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: never ending party in the back. 306 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: And he has a rin ear to ear and is 307 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: wearing ball framed glasses. 308 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: I just wow, yeah, no, it is it is. I 309 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: have just locked in on this, and wow, it is. 310 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 3: That is maybe the truest. It's almost like a bowl 311 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: cut in the front. It's terrifying and beautiful. 312 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. 313 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: I have a couple questions because I'm always curious about this. 314 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: For whatever reason, I get along with former offensive linemen 315 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: better than any other position group. You what weight did 316 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: you check in at Notre Dame at when out of 317 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: high school? 318 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: At Notre Dame, coming out of high school, I was 319 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 3: a two hundred and seventy five pound interior offensive lineman, 320 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: which is you can imagine required a lot of work 321 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 3: when I got on campus to change. 322 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: So what what did you play at? What weights? 323 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: I played at probably two ninety five in college and 324 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 3: left school right around three hundred. 325 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: Okay, how did you put on the twenty twenty five pounds? 326 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: A lot of peanut butter sandwiches and a lot of 327 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 3: eating on the like you learned one of the early 328 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: messages I got on working with you know, like dietitians 329 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: and people in that realm is you don't eat when 330 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 3: you're hungry, because at that point you've already sailed. You 331 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: eat on the clock. So I spent the better part 332 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 3: of five years eating every two and a half hours 333 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 3: on the clock and trying to get as close to, 334 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: you know, between five thousand and fifty five hundred calories 335 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: a day as I could. So it was much to 336 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 3: the like I would always complain about it to my 337 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: mom and sister, who didn't want to hear anything that 338 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: I had to say because I was doing what they 339 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 3: wanted to do in life, which is trying to gain 340 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: weight and eating basically whatever I wanted. But you just 341 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: dreaded looking at food like you showed up to every 342 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: meal still tasting the last meal or snack and basically 343 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: trying not to puke on your plate. 344 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: Did you do the wake up in the middle of 345 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: the night or right before bed thing peanut butter sandwich. 346 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: I've heard a couple offensive linemen talk about that sort 347 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: of fat discipline. 348 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, it was. It was that Like my 349 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: freshman year roommate got a real kick out of it, 350 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: and he's a guy who's still real close with who 351 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: played the cross at Notre Dame. But in our freshman dorm, 352 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: underneath my bed, I had a loaf of bread, a 353 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: jar of peanut butter, had a big drum of weight 354 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 3: gainer protein that I would set an alarm and wake 355 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: up either early in the morning or late at night, 356 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: depending on what you read on it was, and just 357 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 3: slam one or two of those real quick before I 358 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 3: went back to bed and got up for morning workout. 359 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 3: So it was it was part of the ritual that 360 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 3: didn't necessarily endear me right away to a roommate that 361 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 3: was trying to sleep, but it was part of the 362 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 3: part of the dream. 363 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: So when you I don't know what you weigh now, 364 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: obviously I imagine it's less most offensive linemen going one 365 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: of two directions. I've seen pictures of you, I've seen 366 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: you on screens. It appears you weigh less than three 367 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: hundred pounds. Was taking off the way as simple as 368 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: not eating peanut butter sandwiches like it was your job 369 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: or was there something else? 370 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was. It was pushing away from the 371 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 3: table like when I finished. So my last I did 372 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: a couple of training camps in the NFL. My last 373 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 3: camp was at New Orleans Saints in twenty fifteen. I 374 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 3: got cut right at the beginning of September and I 375 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: left camp there at three oh five. I'd been between 376 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: three or five and three ten for most of my 377 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: time out of college, and that's fall. Once I decided that, 378 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: you know, I'm done, I'm done trying esping to play football. 379 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna, you know, let this go away. I 380 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 3: just stopped eating fifty five hundred calories a day and 381 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 3: dropped twenty pounds like it was nothing. It was. That 382 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 3: was nice. So I got to like two seventy five 383 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 3: and kind of hit a holding pattern there, and since 384 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 3: then I've had to work a little bit more at it, 385 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 3: start to really focus on diets. So I'm probably two 386 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 3: fifty five right now. I've been hovering around there for 387 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 3: a bit, so it get into a comfortable weight. Listen, 388 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: as a former lineman, like you still have that bit 389 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: of ego where you don't ever want to be a 390 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: small guy necessarily. But that was the advice I heard from, 391 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 3: you know, guys like Jeff Saturday who are in the building, 392 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: or Mark Schlarett, like you either lose the weight right 393 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 3: away when you're still relatively young, or you're gonna have 394 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 3: a lot more difficulty losing it as time goes on. 395 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: So what were you doing once you hit the weight 396 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: to maintain in college? Was it just hitting the calorie 397 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: marks or was there was there something else? 398 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I mean to some extent, you're really playing 399 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 3: a numbers game, right, Like, especially as a college athlete, 400 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 3: with the scheduler you're on most of your day is 401 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 3: a weight training portion, some sort of conditioning, and then practice. 402 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 3: So you're burning so much that in order to stay 403 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 3: above that mark, you've got to just basically make the 404 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 3: math problem work and the challenge in that is all right, 405 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: I want to do that, but I also want to 406 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 3: put on weight the right way. I want to take 407 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: the off seasons to build lean muscle mass. And so 408 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 3: I was fortunate. You know, Kyle Rudolph was a teammate 409 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 3: of mine at Notre Dame. Came from Cincinnati where he 410 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 3: worked for the guy by the name of Brian Wafering, 411 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 3: who was a great asset to us. Was a guy 412 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: that is a dietitian and helps train a lot of people. 413 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 3: And so I was able to get a lot of 414 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 3: information at an early age, before you know, Notre Dame 415 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 3: and a lot of other schools started putting those people 416 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 3: on staff. That could really be an asset. You know, 417 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 3: I go back now and I see the nutritionis on 418 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: staff at Notre Dame, and it's such a gift for 419 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: these guys. But we didn't really have that same resource 420 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 3: when I was there, So we were fortunate to get 421 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 3: to learn through an outside resource, and really because of that, 422 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 3: find ways to make sure if I'm gonna hit these 423 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 3: calorie marks, I can do it in ways like you 424 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 3: get calorie dense food that don't make you quite as full, 425 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 3: and you're not putting on this like sloppy, god awful 426 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 3: weight all at once. 427 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: So what was that? What's calorie dnse without the mass? 428 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: I mean a lot of it is like finding tricks, 429 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: like you know, when I would have like carb dishes, 430 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: it's putting a lot of olive oil on top because 431 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: it's super calorie rich. It's almonds and beef jerkys. It's 432 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: you know, well timed shakes. I was, you know, in 433 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 3: the shake you're using heavy whipping cream to try and 434 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 3: load up and just make those more calorie dents. You know, 435 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 3: vitamin D, milk, stuff like that anywhere where in a 436 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 3: form that's quick to quick to get in because a 437 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 3: lot of the gaining weight is mind games, Like if 438 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: you're eating something that requires a lot of bytes or 439 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 3: a lot of work to ingest, it's gonna feel like 440 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 3: more and it's going to weigh you down and bog 441 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 3: you down mentally, where As if it's something you can 442 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: basically mainline in, it helps just more than anything, keep 443 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 3: you mentally on track. For what becomes a lot of 444 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: that process is just making sure you're so dialed into 445 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 3: eating on the clock, making sure you're hitting whatever you 446 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 3: know you're the best protein for you at that time period. 447 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 3: Is the amount of carved protein ratio you want on 448 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 3: your plate, all these things that again, I was fortunate 449 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: to get someone who is a real strong guiding hand 450 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 3: early on. 451 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: Fair enough and on the subject of flavors and by 452 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: the way, no calories, just to connect two things we've 453 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: already spoken about. If you are to I'm told I 454 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: haven't actually done this, but according to Stephen Godfrey, dear 455 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: friend of the show, if you combine coconut flavored lacroix 456 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: with iced coffee, it's apparently delicious and refreshing and just 457 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 1: like a touch of that island lifestyle. Oh wow, the 458 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: sparkling water coconut lacroix combined with ice coffee. It's called 459 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: a pensacola, which is a just a phenomenal name for 460 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: a drink. I have to recommend it. Everybody says it's fantastic. 461 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: So take that away, then. 462 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 3: You guys with the coffee app I was going to say, 463 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 3: you give me every coffee trip in the book for 464 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: someone who lives my life only is like, I'm the 465 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 3: sum total of the amount of coffee in me at 466 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 3: any given time. Of course, you guys have upped my 467 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 3: game significantly, so I again, this has been Uh, this 468 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 3: has been an enriching experience for me. 469 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: I am nothing if not somebody who prides myself on 470 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: imparting nuggets. I appreciate fun learning nuggets about people. I 471 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: like imparting nuggets, and with that, I have a very 472 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: short but always fascinating game show that I like to 473 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: play with people in person on road trips whatever. But 474 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: since you haven't been on the show, since you're relatively 475 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: new to college football media, it's been two or three years, 476 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: you've done a fantastic job. Obviously, these I have very 477 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: specific life situations that I'm going to try to figure 478 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: out if you have found yourself in these, and I'm 479 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: going to see how well I now know you after 480 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: learning minimal amounts of things about you, do you understand 481 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: and exciting? 482 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I think I understand as best I'm going to. 483 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: So let's fire this up. I'm excited to see what 484 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 3: specific life situations I don't even remember being involved in. 485 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: Okay, these are all created today. So have you done 486 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: a cannonball off a diving board in the past year. 487 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to say yes. 488 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 3: A cannonball off a diving board in the past year, 489 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 3: I would say no, I have not set a pool 490 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 3: with a diving board in the last year. Now, if 491 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 3: you want to sub in off a pontoon boat, then 492 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 3: we're cooking with gas, because I have for sure done 493 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: that at one of the various lakes that I frequented. 494 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 3: But if we're going to make the diving board a 495 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 3: sticking board, I got to go know on this one. 496 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to count it pontoon boat as excellent lake 497 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: pontoon cannonball definitely counts. 498 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 2: Have you yet have you broken a limb. 499 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: In a non football context, I'm going to say, for sure, you. 500 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 3: Know what, knock on wood. This is the one thing 501 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,479 Speaker 3: I have managed to avoid, and it is my it 502 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 3: is my right now, my only goal in life. Like 503 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 3: as soon as I've finished playing athletics at any level, 504 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 3: I've said, I cannot afford to be the guy that 505 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 3: gets injured because I go back every year Notre Dame 506 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 3: does this thing called fantasy Camp where all of these 507 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 3: you know, CEOs and people with normal jobs. We're just 508 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 3: huge fans pay a massive sum of money to come 509 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 3: back and have our coaches scream at them. It is, 510 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 3: it is the true testament of how insane our fans are. 511 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 3: But every year, some sixty five year old guy who's 512 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 3: a CEO of a fortune five homes five hundred company 513 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 3: breaks an ankle or pops and achilles or tears an 514 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 3: acl and then has to go back and explain to 515 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 3: the people that they work with. Right now, it's to you, 516 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 3: I'm trying to avoid being that guy at twenty eight 517 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 3: right now walking into ESPN having to explain a cast. 518 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: Now that I've stopped playing sports. 519 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: You have in your life been ziplining. I'm going to 520 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: say no, only because I don't know about weight requirements. 521 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's been that's been an issue. I have 522 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: not been ziplining. The one place it forwre that I 523 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: managed to somehow dodge this, and it wasn't my choice 524 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 3: was at the super Bowl this year because they had 525 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 3: the zip line set up in the Mall of America 526 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: and I was supposed to with Mina Kaims, who works 527 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 3: and writes for US at ESPN the magazine. I was 528 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 3: supposed to go and do the zip line on air 529 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 3: for the Dan Levittard Show Is to Hit because you know, 530 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 3: why wouldn't that show do something like that? So I 531 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 3: missed out in the zipline there and thus made you write, 532 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 3: which is my real goal in all this. 533 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: You've dropped a phone and a toilet. I'm going to say, yes, oh. 534 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one hundred percent, mostly because I set so 535 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 3: many of them on top of the urinal when I'm 536 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 3: you know, in those settings. That just comes to the territory. 537 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 2: You've worked in food service, I will say no. 538 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 3: At all. Right, Well, it depends on how loosely you 539 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 3: define work. Because as high schooler, we were raising money 540 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 3: for our football team to go away for training camp 541 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 3: off site for a weekend, and so they sent us 542 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 3: to help raise money for this to work at six Flags, 543 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 3: and my job was to make the cones at the 544 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 3: ice cream stand. So I don't know if that counts 545 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 3: or not. Definitely count It was awesome because I smelt 546 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 3: like waffle cones all day and I got to take 547 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 3: hits from the ice cream machine. Basically whenever I. 548 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 2: Wanted, go irish, go offensive. Linemen. 549 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: How about you, You have ditched or been ditched in 550 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: the middle of a first date. 551 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 3: In the middle of a first date. No, No, That's 552 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 3: the thing though, is like dating is such a weird 553 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 3: phenomenon to me, Like I was talking about I was 554 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 3: talking about this with someone that I am currently dating, Like, 555 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 3: I didn't go on a lot of like official dates, 556 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 3: Like I tend to meet people in groups because for 557 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 3: as much as I talk, I'm very awkward in one 558 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 3: on one scenarios when I don't know someone, so I 559 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 3: always need like that group dynamic to help me through. 560 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 3: But as a result, I have not been ditched on 561 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 3: a first date. I can proud beware that. 562 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 2: You can drive stick shifts. I say, no, you. 563 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 3: Are, you are correct, that's my that's my secret shame. 564 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: By the way, I was again shamed by the woman 565 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 3: that I'm currently gating chick and drive stick and I cannot. 566 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 3: So that's that's going to be a big hurdle to overcome, 567 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 3: Like I've got to learn this summer or else I 568 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 3: risk being completely you know, uh, I completely shamed in 569 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 3: front of her family when I finally meet them. 570 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: You were some kind of prom or homecoming king, prince 571 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: something in high school. I'm gonna say, I'm going to say, yes, 572 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: I think you probably stood out as being a larger person. 573 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: You were an athlete, You talk a lot, so you 574 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: probably were somewhat popular and knew a bunch of people. 575 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: So I feel like your presence probably lent you to 576 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: being honored in that way. 577 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 3: Unfortunately I was not, And I have a huge Yeah, no, 578 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: I have a huge bone because it wasn't like I 579 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: whacked for friends or anything in high school. But you 580 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 3: know what else I was let out of that really 581 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 3: pissed me off. All those superlatives they do in the yearbook. 582 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: For sure, I did not get most. 583 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 3: Athletic at my high school, like I went to the 584 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 3: you know, of all the kid that went to my 585 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 3: high school, I went to a pretty damn good Division 586 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 3: one institution ship and somehow managed to get skated by 587 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 3: that by so we had a good basketball team. So 588 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: I get it, you know, you throw some love that way, 589 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 3: but I felt like I got kind of robbed on 590 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 3: that one. 591 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: You prefer a burrito bull to a wrapped burrito, and 592 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to say yes, because I've heard this from 593 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: two different now retired linemen. You can stack meat, extra 594 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: meat higher in a bowl situation. 595 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: See. See this is very, very true. I've been team 596 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: Bowl ever since I learned about that. You can always 597 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,479 Speaker 3: get them to give you more. And that's the key too, 598 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 3: is they can't they can charge you for double meat. 599 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 3: They cannot charge you for adding more. Right, so you 600 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 3: can add as much carbs as you want to that 601 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 3: bowl and you're good to go. You can really pack 602 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: a lot into that sucker. 603 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: So much insight. 604 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: You have gone in to get a tattoo, if people 605 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: have not seen you wearing short sleeves or no sleeves 606 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: or no shirt, you have a number of tats. You've 607 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: gone in to get a tattoo and bailed at the 608 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: last second because your idea was, like, you know what, 609 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: maybe this isn't the best. I'm gonna say yes. 610 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 3: Uh, that's actually a no. And actually you know you 611 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 3: might get off on a technicality. Oh yes, this happened 612 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 3: one time. I see. I have a standing offer because, 613 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 3: as you said, like I have a full sleeve on 614 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 3: my right arm, a half sleeve on my left, a 615 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 3: tattoo on my chest, I've committed to a lifestyle, and 616 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 3: so I always offer my friends, I say, if you're 617 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 3: going to get a tattoo, if you're going to get 618 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 3: your first tattoo, I'll go with you and kind of 619 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 3: walk you through the experience, because it can be kind 620 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 3: of daunting at these shops. They're kind of set up 621 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 3: to look gruff, even though everyone is usually very welcoming inside. 622 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,479 Speaker 3: So I always offer, I say, I'll go with you 623 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 3: for your first one, and if you really want, I'll 624 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 3: get a tattoo with you. Because what's one. If I 625 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 3: get a small tattoo, it's a drop in the bucket, 626 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 3: Like I really not married to some of the smaller 627 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 3: portions of skin in my body. And I went with 628 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 3: one of the I went with one of my friends 629 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 3: will get one, And I was all primed to get 630 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: one with her, and I just couldn't commit to the 631 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 3: one idea that I kind of thought of in my head, 632 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 3: and I was like, you know what, it would take 633 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 3: up more time in our day. I'm just going to 634 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 3: punt on this one. So yes, yeah, you are actually 635 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 3: right on this one. 636 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: I can appreciate that in college you obviously played on 637 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: the Notre Dame offensive line. But happenstance determined that you 638 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: have recorded a tackle, either by special teams or after 639 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: a turnover or some unforeseen scenario. I'm going to say no, 640 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: because the odds are slim. Have you recorded a tackle? 641 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: The odds are slim, and you know what, I would 642 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 3: have to check the stat looks. I got close a 643 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 3: couple of times because I was on the dreaded punt shield, 644 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 3: which in modern college football I believe is the worst 645 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 3: thing to happen to the game because it is forced 646 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 3: offensive linemen to be on the field for a play 647 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 3: that we should never be out there for. And all 648 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 3: it did was take years off my life having some 649 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 3: linebacker run straight into my neck. But it also put 650 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 3: me in these situations where I was like the half 651 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 3: tackle guy, like I probably have a half tackle recorded somewhere. 652 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 3: I had one instance where I was one on one 653 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 3: with a punt returner from Tulsa. I don't remember his name, 654 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 3: but we had identified him. He was a great punt 655 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 3: returner that season. And it was me and him one 656 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 3: on one, and I'm trying to use the sideline as 657 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 3: an extra man all this stuff, and he jumps out 658 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: of bounds right as I died, and I land face 659 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 3: first on the sideline, grabbing nothing but air in front 660 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: of all the tulse alignment over there. And they just 661 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 3: stand up there like, dude, there was nothing you're gonna 662 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 3: do on that one. 663 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, you're probably right fair. 664 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: You were an academic All American. You have finished a 665 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: New York Times crossford puzzle. I'm going to say, yes, 666 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: Notre Dame a tough institution, brings out the intellectual side 667 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: of people. I'm going to say, you have finished a 668 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: New York Times crossford puzzle. 669 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 3: I have finished a New York Times crossword puzzle. I 670 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 3: actually have the the New York Times Crossword Puzzle app 671 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 3: so I'll have on of those every once in a while. 672 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 3: Most of its competitive nature because me to Times. One 673 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 3: of my colleagues I mentioned, is like a crossword puzzle 674 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 3: social in the New York Times, it's she she is 675 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 3: some sort of warlock. So I tried to get on 676 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 3: there and see if I could get anywhere close, and 677 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 3: I was humbled very quickly. 678 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: As we speak, you have a sweet or sugared cereal 679 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: in a cabinet or in your wherever you live. 680 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 3: I do not. Unfortunately right now. 681 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: I was going to say yes, but okay, yeah, no. 682 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 3: Listen, it's it's one of those things. Where now is 683 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 3: I as I am an adult, live by myself, and 684 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,479 Speaker 3: as like you said, been trying. I told you been 685 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 3: trying to lose weight. I just realized that if I 686 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 3: don't buy things, I can't eat them. So if I 687 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 3: don't buy those sugary cereals, yep, I can't consume it 688 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 3: because I eat cereal box at a time. I have 689 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 3: no self control with cereal at all, So I just 690 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 3: have to keep it far out of my reach. 691 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: Here's here's my final and this is always a fan favorite, 692 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: and it's it's going to require you to look at 693 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: your phone, so I'll understand if you if you're silent 694 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: for a couple seconds, you'll just know this off the 695 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: top of your head. Do you have more than three 696 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 1: Brandons in your address book. I am going to say definitely. 697 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 3: More than three Brandons. You know what. Off off the 698 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 3: top of my head, Brandon is my most recent call. 699 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: Wow, I have. 700 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 3: I have exactly three Brandons in my phone book. 701 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 2: Oh my god. That's always It's a tough one. There 702 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: are some people. 703 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: A friend of mine is from Massachusetts and went to 704 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: college in Maine, and so we asked her about Chad 705 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: or Brad or something like that, and it went over 706 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: every as you know, the waspiar and preppier the name, 707 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: the better, and so three Brandons is solid. 708 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 2: I don't think I have three Brandons. That was That 709 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 2: was the name. 710 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: I just decided it felt like a very Notre Dame 711 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: mid two thousand's era name. 712 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: I don't know why. I guess the quarterback's name is Brandon. 713 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: That's that'll do it. 714 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: Well, he's actually one of them in there, and the 715 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 3: other Brandon was a former defensive tackle teammate of mine 716 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 3: at Notre Dame. So two of the three brand Ins 717 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: are Notre Dame brands. So you are corrected to the 718 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 3: same page. 719 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: All right, we'll nd it with this, blend it with 720 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: Notre Dame thoughts, since obviously you're following the Irish and 721 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: you played there, and your heart is there. I assume 722 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: Notre Dame returns a lot on defense. Obviously offensively, things 723 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: sort of went downhill a little bit towards the tail 724 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: end of the season. Uh, where is your confidence level 725 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: right now with the twenty eighteen Irish. 726 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 3: My confidence scale of one to ten is probably a 727 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 3: six right now, because I just I've seen this story 728 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 3: at quarterbacks so many times that until I can get 729 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 3: some semlin that spot, I'm gonna bullow the fact that 730 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 3: I think the biggest loss this offseason for them had 731 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 3: nothing less to do with a two consensus All American 732 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 3: offensive lineman on your left side. Tough to replace your 733 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 3: offensive line kick and Harry heat Stand that had coached 734 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 3: three top you know, three first round prospects for first 735 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 3: round prospects, excuse me, and a handful of other high 736 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 3: drafts is even harder to replace. And you know, Jeff 737 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 3: quinn is the offensive line coach now is going to 738 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 3: do a great job. He's known coach Kelly for a 739 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 3: long time and being around there this spring, it sounds 740 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 3: like guys have taken to him really well. But it's 741 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 3: just a difference in identity that I have to see 742 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 3: before I'm going to be as fully comfortable with as 743 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 3: I was what I know Harry was bringing to the 744 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 3: table each and every week. So as you replace some 745 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 3: of those bodies and that coaching mentality there, I think 746 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 3: it's even more important to figure out, all, right, are 747 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 3: we going to go with Brandon? Are we going to 748 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 3: go with Eli for this fall as our starting quarterback? 749 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 3: And really commit to that and commit to making sure 750 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 3: you're now giving them the camp reps to grow. That 751 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 3: was one thing. Brandon did a great job as a runner, 752 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 3: but never really made the progress as a passer last 753 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 3: season that we needed. And so I think as many 754 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 3: reps as you can give him in camp are going 755 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 3: to be really helpful if that's going to be the 756 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 3: guy you go with. Because you're right, you're going to 757 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: have an experienced defense, You're going to bring back some 758 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 3: other weapons on offense, especially at the receiver spot and 759 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 3: the running back room. So I think ironing out that 760 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 3: position as always is paramount, but it's something we just 761 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 3: haven't been able to really solidify since coach Kelly walked 762 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 3: on campus. 763 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: Michael Junior, thank you very much for your time. I 764 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: felt like I learned a ton about you, both physically 765 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: and spiritually and calorically. It was it was, It was privilege, 766 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: and I look forward to having you back and learning 767 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 1: about you as a coffee n apper. 768 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 2: This is very exciting, oh man. 769 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 3: I would say we connect it on a deep level. 770 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 3: The Pensacola, the coffee app I am taking a lot 771 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 3: home from this and I can't wait to report back 772 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 3: this fall as we march on into a brave new 773 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 3: world where I am much more energized than my college 774 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 3: football saturdays. 775 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: I love it. We'll talk again soon. Much appreciated. There 776 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: he is there, he goes. Always a thrill to have 777 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: somebody new on the show and have it turn out 778 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: to be fun and interesting and illuminating. 779 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 2: I think we learned a lot about each other. I 780 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 2: think we. 781 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: Now know the best peanut butter sandwich eater in the 782 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: history of the Solid Verbal podcast. Probably we'll check in 783 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: with Jef Schwartz and see if he has any stories. 784 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: But thank you again to Mike Golick Junior. Do check 785 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: him out on well on Twitter. M Golick Junior fifty seven. 786 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: I believe is the handle for being such a good 787 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: sport online and does really fun work for ESPN. Some 788 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: housekeeping real quick before we let you go, Before I 789 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: let you go. Solidverbal dot com for any information you 790 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 1: may need about the show. Follow us at solid Verbal 791 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,479 Speaker 1: on Twitter. Like us on Facebook. Just look up solid Verbal. 792 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: You will find us. I guarantee you will find us. 793 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 1: If you search solid Verbal on Facebook. You can follow 794 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: me at Dan Rubinstein. You can follow Tie at Ty 795 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: hildenbrand We will be back next week. I promise you 796 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 1: I would not lead you astray. That's not who I am. 797 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: And maybe we get shots of Tai's new studio. That'd 798 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:49,479 Speaker 1: be pretty cool. 799 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 2: So thank you, Thank you for listening. It's always a pleasure. 800 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 2: It's mid May. 801 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: We're excited to eventually do previews this summer. We have 802 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of fun non and college football shows to 803 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: get to. Bill Barnwell will be back probably in a 804 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: couple months to a new off season, off topic episode 805 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: and throw us a five star review. 806 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 2: iTunes, dot Com, Slash Solid Verbal, Apple podcasts, Solid Verbal. 807 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 2: It really does help. 808 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, for Tie hilden Brandt, for Mike 809 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: Golick Junior, everybody out there, stay solid and peace.