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Speaker 1: We are being followed around by reality television cameras, to

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Speaker 1: Please welcome to Mave Higgins.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having right. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I did record my book in this very studio for

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Speaker 4: Where I just came in here with my phone, just

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Speaker 4: But didn't you ever, like because I liked reading out

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Speaker 4: But I reading it, Reading it is hard because you

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Speaker 1: Totally totally published. I guess maybe what I would want

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Speaker 1: Well, I always love when they have, like Helen Mirren

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Speaker 1: Have you heard clips of Bonan Farrerh reading his book

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Speaker 3: Too symmetrical, definitely symmetrical, not.

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Speaker 2: Talking about talk about it, like like you should be hot,

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Speaker 1: He is a fascinating figure to me. I would love

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I would go in and fully

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well this kind of gets into like Twitter being

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Speaker 1: It's actually exactly that. Yeah you know about this may

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Speaker 2: Like it's very like me at five, you're gifted, me

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, But like you think Ronan Barrow has more

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Speaker 1: Well, I do think he's driven out, but I also

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Speaker 3: Can you do an impression.

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Speaker 2: Me at twelve? I'm going to college at forty? Why

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Speaker 3: I can't believe they're complaining about being gifted children.

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Speaker 4: Such a lovely I mean, it's such a lovely thing

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Speaker 1: It's crazy that it's fake, Like it is literally just

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Speaker 2: Well, And it's one of the saddest things is like

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Speaker 1: So what how can someone be happy?

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Speaker 4: I guess if you if you're roning Pharaoh, I mean that's.

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Speaker 4: think about it too much, I mean, if you you

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Speaker 4: know what how to be happy?

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Speaker 2: God?

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Speaker 4: I do think some people have an easier time being

442
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Speaker 4: happy than others. Yes, and some people find life harder

443
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Speaker 4: than for no justification, like I'm not talking about.

444
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Speaker 1: Actual no, no, you are you know.

445
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 3: Some people are just like this is really hard.

446
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Speaker 1: It's actually like one of the things that there's no

447
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,959
Speaker 1: correct way to talk about because like without without like

448
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 1: talking about like specific things like mental illness or socioeconomic

449
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 1: status like this, that's not what we're talking about. It's

450
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Speaker 1: just some people, all else being equal, will be given

451
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Speaker 1: a life task and will find it harder than other people.

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Speaker 3: Yes, totally, that's just one of their feelings. Yeah, yeah, totally.

453
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Speaker 1: So is there a pill I can take?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Actually, but that's why we do have all the little treats.

456
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Speaker 2: That's why we have little treats.

457
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

458
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your little treat?

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Speaker 3: So many things? Okay, next question, so many, so many,

460
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 3: so many things.

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Speaker 2: You've never had a treat in your life? That's that's

462
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Speaker 2: what it sounds like, someone's never had to treat in

463
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Speaker 2: the life. Oh, I what's my treat? Everything I'm constantly concerning?

464
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Speaker 3: Very happy?

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Speaker 4: I mean that is That's the other thing as well,

466
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 4: that you that like if you do have that mentality, right,

467
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Speaker 4: is I have a thing, I'll do a thing, then

468
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 4: it's usually you have to pay for it. So that's

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Speaker 4: a problem. I guess, like talking to my friends, m

470
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Speaker 4: H is a real treat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta be careful which ones you talk to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, cutting them off is another real treat, exactly.

473
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Speaker 2: Making them come crawling back.

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Speaker 1: God, it's been a while since I've re like cut

475
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Speaker 1: someone out of my life.

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Speaker 2: Oh I miss it other rush.

477
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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you just did too many at once and

478
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Speaker 3: you don't I know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was sort of thinking about that the other day.

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Speaker 1: Not that I cut off people intentionally, but I was like,

481
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Speaker 1: I used to pride myself in not in all my

482
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Speaker 1: friends not being comedians. Like I was like, I have

483
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Speaker 1: I keep in touch with so many friends from college,

484
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Speaker 1: like I regularly, you know, if I were to have

485
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Speaker 1: a party, it would be fifty percent old friends, fifty

486
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Speaker 1: percent comedian friends. Whatever. And I think something happened, especially

487
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Speaker 1: during the pandemic, maybe a little before that. Maybe also

488
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: just like me spending more and more of my time

489
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Speaker 1: doing comedy related stuff where I'm like, we're down to

490
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Speaker 1: maybe three or four, like not like it is and

491
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Speaker 1: it's not healthy.

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Speaker 3: Well isn't five the number though?

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Speaker 1: What's five? Then five number of close friends?

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Speaker 3: Yes? And and the like correct or possible?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's you know, because you can have

496
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Speaker 4: there's only so much like time end resources that you have,

497
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Speaker 4: yes to really fully understand like.

498
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Speaker 3: Your friend and see how they are.

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Speaker 4: And I mean this is really just from something I

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Speaker 4: probably saw, you know a few years ago.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but it makes sense me. Five is

502
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Speaker 3: like the kind of number.

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Speaker 2: Does a romantic partner count of the five or is

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Speaker 2: that a different category.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It depends if you're having sex with

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Speaker 3: them or not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well the five is a number of PEO be

508
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Speaker 1: having sex with correct moment, at any moment, Well, you

509
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Speaker 1: should have five people somehow penetrated. Someone needs to be penetrated.

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Speaker 3: Does that make sense to five hive?

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Speaker 1: Five does actually make cli?

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Speaker 3: Two names?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Mave, Sam, George our producer. Everyone has set up

514
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Speaker 1: the camera and everyone and everyone listing at home. Okay,

515
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Speaker 1: don't you think And by the way, we're being like joking,

516
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Speaker 1: joke everyone. I just want to be clear. I want

517
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Speaker 1: to be friends with him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, I think what's clear is that, like

519
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: you want to be friends with him, and it's like,

520
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Speaker 2: but we're not gonna just be like nice because he's

521
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 2: famous exactly, Like we're gonna be real and that's why

522
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Speaker 2: we're gonna be good friends. Yeah, we're gonna tell him, hey,

523
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Speaker 2: you look too perfect, something's.

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Speaker 3: Up, And I'm telling you as a friend, we really

525
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 3: like your work, and then yeah, you're.

526
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Speaker 1: You must have been gifted. Do you think that one

527
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Speaker 1: of the reasons why social media is so toxic is

528
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Speaker 1: because of or is you to care about more than

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Speaker 1: five people at any given time? Yes, Like I truly

530
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Speaker 1: think yeah, And this is not a novel observation, but

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Speaker 1: it's like, we are not meant to know that many people.

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Speaker 1: We're not meant to think about that many people on

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Speaker 1: any given day. And it's actually like the other day,

534
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: it's sort of like reverse engineering schizophrenia. Like you are

535
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: literally scrolling through voices in your head. Sure that are

536
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: not talking to you?

537
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 3: Like you're scrolling, It means like fractured reality.

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00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're scrolling through like a billion people's random thoughts.

539
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: Imagine like having headphones in and imagine that but an

540
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Speaker 1: audio form to sort of talk of the podcasting audience.

541
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Speaker 1: Imagine being like, oh, you know what, I'm going to

542
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Speaker 1: scroll a bit, I'm gonna relax a bit, I'm gonna

543
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Speaker 1: put on headphones and then just listen to a cacophony

544
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Speaker 1: of one thousand people not even seeing anything of substance,

545
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Speaker 1: just being like being a gifted kid is.

546
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Speaker 2: Bay Yeah, and then like getting randomly really really mad exactly. Yeah,

547
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Speaker 2: that sounds horrible.

548
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Speaker 3: And we do that with our eyes, Yeah, with their eyes.

549
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Speaker 1: And by the way, eyes are just as important as ears.

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Speaker 1: So if you don't do it with your ears, don't

551
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Speaker 1: do it with your eyes. That's what I tell all

552
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: my mentees is so good at that, and so is

553
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Speaker 1: your mouth. Yeah. What which the senses is the most important?

554
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: Okay? Most important?

555
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 5: Sight?

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Speaker 3: I think, no, you go.

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Speaker 4: Isn't it touch because you literally have There's like my

558
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 4: friend volunteers to cuddle new babies. Is they literally need

559
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 4: more than being talked to? Or actually they do need

560
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Speaker 4: water and food.

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Speaker 1: That is actually a great point. It's maybe like touch

562
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: has been undervalued societally, and so we think sight is

563
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Speaker 1: the most important because.

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Speaker 2: You know, wow, wow, I was like a newborn.

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Speaker 1: We think sight is important because you know, we need

566
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Speaker 1: our eyes to look at advertisements, but actually touch is

567
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: way more important.

568
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Speaker 3: Do you think the products to come around and just

569
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Speaker 3: touch you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's them, thank you. That was gonna be

571
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Speaker 1: My next point is like how do we monetize touch.

572
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 2: Touch based advertising? How can we make this podcast touch base?

573
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, wait, how can we make You can just do

574
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 4: life shows That's exactly what they do and they sell.

575
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 3: Like VP tickets. Okay, they touch you yeaheah.

576
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: We need to do a short of not Q and

577
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: a what is it called a meat and greet? Yeah,

578
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: that is the only way to monetize touch.

579
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 2: But here's great, here's nothing oft.

580
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: I figured out, Oh my god, this is genius. I

581
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: figured out why touch is difficult to monetize. It's not scalable.

582
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Speaker 1: Even when you do a meet and Greek, each person

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Speaker 1: individually has to like line up and touch you. There's

584
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: no podcast equivalent touch. You can make a film that

585
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: a billion people can see. You can make a podcast

586
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: that a billion people can hear. You can even make

587
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Speaker 1: a cent that a billion people can smell if you make.

588
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: A candle.

589
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: Or but there is yes, like exactly, there is literally

590
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Speaker 1: no way to scale. I don't a grand scale at

591
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: a global scale touch.

592
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 4: There's that woman who goes around hugging people, but again

593
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 4: by one.

594
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what is the most number of It's the

595
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 2: most anti capital exactly, literally touches the most anti capitalist sentence.

596
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 1: This is a big idea.

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00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 4: Well, I think, yeah, okay, so you want to. Sometimes

598
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 4: in concerts people run around and do like high five

599
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 4: everyone or something like that.

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Speaker 3: And and then the people feel so special. I'm never

601
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 3: going to exactly exactly.

602
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: One time, Janellemane crowdsurfed on my hand.

603
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, which little parts of her body

604
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 3: to do?

605
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: I don't remember. That's a great question, because of course

606
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: I see her as an artist and not as a

607
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: piece of flesh, So it would never occur to me

608
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: to even delineate between her different body parts because I

609
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: respect her to touch. But I distinctly remember I did

610
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: like I was like part of the crowd.

611
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: That.

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00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: Oh true, Wow, sort of cool.

613
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: That is cool. What's the most capitalist sense?

614
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: I gotta be eyes, I think so yeah.

615
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: I mean that's what you used to see advertisements, but like.

616
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 4: When you say to see your screen, it's like profiting

617
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 4: from someone else's labor.

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00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: So like, oh see, I was thinking the most exploitable sense, like,

619
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Speaker 1: if you are selling a product, the easiest way to

620
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: someone is via their eyes.

621
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Speaker 2: I mean, just look at the art industry exactly.

622
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: I'm a buyer.

623
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Speaker 1: Well, you're a collector, of course, and mostly of touch

624
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: based art.

625
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 4: That's what we say, you've got to come and feel

626
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 4: my pieces. Environment is just covered in absolutely beautiful pieces.

627
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: You know that should be real? Yeah?

628
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: Wow, should we do yes?

629
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Speaker 2: Segment. I also want to say one more thing about

630
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 2: the podcast when we make Okay Please, which is that

631
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: it's really hit me today how we are literally and

632
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: just like that, like we are and it's like freaking

633
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: me out because like they can't see this. There's a

634
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: window that's like looking out on New York. We're like

635
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: laughing and like drinking water and like I'm like, oh

636
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 2: my god, every time we laugh, I'm like we're like

637
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: a scene and just like that. And I feel like

638
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: a bit.

639
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: Trippy thinking just like that should do a like a

640
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: podcast that is essentially a fully scripted, slash improvised version

641
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: of the podcast that they have on the show, so

642
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: you can follow obviously.

643
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually monetarily dumb that they hadn't done it.

644
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what the hell is wrong with them?

645
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

646
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 3: And it was her and two others was yeah it was.

647
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Speaker 1: The guy from at TV. Oh yeah, yeah, Oh my god,

648
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: what's his name?

649
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: He was?

650
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: He was mother to me when I was a kid,

651
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: but I don't remembers name. Oh, god, well whatever, So

652
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: it was him, it was Chay and him.

653
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would absolutely recommend that.

654
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would listen the way I miss Chad as

655
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: they're coming back. Did you watch and just like that.

656
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, just the first episode. Actually, I just needed to

657
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 4: know what happened you keep going.

658
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: I truly it was also something about that part of

659
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: the pandemic where I needed a Chad d.

660
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: As culturally, we needed something to rally around.

661
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: And I really don't remember the last time a television

662
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Speaker 1: character made that much of an impact.

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Speaker 2: It was insane.

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Speaker 3: So where are they now, the character or the actor.

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Speaker 1: So in the end, spoiler alert for anyone listening, and.

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Speaker 2: If you haven't finished, and just like that, stop listening

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Speaker 2: and let.

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Speaker 1: Me just say something else our own and has finished

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Speaker 1: and just like that. So at the end of the season,

670
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Speaker 1: Miranda sort of like in a manic Pixie moment, drops

671
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Speaker 1: everything and moves to La to be with Chay while

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Speaker 1: Cha is there filming their pilot. And guess what else,

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Speaker 1: Miranda dyes her hair red. She's just the beginning. She

674
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Speaker 1: had great. Yeah, and that's actually sending mixed messages to me,

675
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Speaker 1: because you're supposed to think gray hair is empowering. You

676
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Speaker 1: will be wrong.

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Speaker 2: Actually, red hair is empowering. You're dead wrong, You're fucking

678
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Speaker 2: dead wrong, bitch. She had given up and it was sad.

679
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: Now athetic now that she finally has a group back's hair,

680
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Speaker 2: Now she's embracing her queer self. She's ditching her dead

681
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Speaker 2: ass husband. He's not dead but sexually, yeah, yeah, that's right.

682
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Speaker 3: He diesexually.

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Speaker 4: And also, but can you imagine her just showing off

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Speaker 4: when you're taping a pilot in La I Worry, Well, you.

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Speaker 1: Know what's gonna happen is basically the scene is gonna

686
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Speaker 1: be like cha is shooting the pilot? Yeah, and Miranda

687
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Speaker 1: comes up and Synthi Nixon is really good at doing

688
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Speaker 1: this sort of and acting this sort of desperation that

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Speaker 1: Miranda has, and just like that, it's like just it's

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Speaker 1: in the eyes. She's just like, I need to feel anything.

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Speaker 1: And so she's going to show up to this, to

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Speaker 1: the set and be like chay chay and like waving

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Speaker 1: and then be like what is she doing here? I'm

694
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Speaker 1: trying to do my job, yes.

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Speaker 3: And the security guard.

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Speaker 4: But you're right about that, because didn't she play this

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Speaker 4: character that had trapped in syndrome or something like that.

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Speaker 4: Miranda did it? Ords wasn't that her? Like she played

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Speaker 4: in your or something like that, you know where you

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Speaker 4: have something happens, do you get like a brain injury

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Speaker 4: and you're totally fine, but your body can't move. And

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Speaker 4: so she was only acting with her eyes, which you

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Speaker 4: think you might think so easy. I get paid.

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Speaker 2: I would never diect.

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Speaker 1: So she's really so yeah, I think for her role

706
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Speaker 1: as Miranda.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just kind of nobody, just eyes and you saw

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Speaker 4: that unless it was a completely different actress.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I think it sounds like watch Red Hair.

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Speaker 1: Did you know she's an Amadaeus.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Suddenly they like open the door and she's like there.

713
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Speaker 1: She just like plays the cleaning lady, plays the cleaning man,

714
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Speaker 1: and she actually I don't want to ruin it, but

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Speaker 1: it has a pretty big role. Oh, she's part of

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Speaker 1: a plan to sabotage something say that.

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Speaker 2: I haven't watched the Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: She's running from air or governor whichever, whichever power. You know.

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Speaker 1: I went to her launch event at Stonewall.

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Speaker 2: Oh, and you have to I wish I had.

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Speaker 1: It was honestly a great night, I'm sure, And I

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Speaker 1: remember because she came out and the first thing she

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Speaker 1: said was I think she said like ladies, gentlemen, and

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Speaker 1: those who reject the gender binary. That's how she started

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Speaker 1: her speech. And I was like, well, she's losing.

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Speaker 2: She's losing, but she's losing, but she's the door. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I am a.

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Speaker 1: Stand No, I was, I was pumped. I genuinely was like,

729
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Speaker 1: I love this. She's very smart and would make a

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Speaker 1: great politician, but she has more important things to do,

731
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Speaker 1: which is shoot and just like that and I'm d yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're rebooting that. Actually she's playing amadas. Okay, sorry, okay.

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Speaker 2: Our first segment, Our first segment is called straight Shooters.

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Speaker 2: And then this segment, we ask you a series of

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Speaker 2: rapid pire questions. Is basically this thing, this other thing

736
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Speaker 2: to gauge your familiarity with and complicity in straight culture.

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Speaker 2: The only rule is you can't ask any follow up

738
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Speaker 2: questions or will fly off our rockers.

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Speaker 1: We'll cut your camera.

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Speaker 2: And I thought you were gonna say, like, cut your throats.

741
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Speaker 1: I would never say that.

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Speaker 2: Cut was so intense.

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Speaker 4: It's like whoa, but that's like killing met turning off

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Speaker 4: the camera.

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Speaker 1: We're actually gonna keep you here and finish the episode,

746
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Speaker 1: but turn off your spotlight so that you look worse

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Speaker 1: than in the video.

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Speaker 3: I'll be so good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, let me find my notes. App got it? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Maybe HBO's loas of Spooky's well RuPaul's drag race, selena

751
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Speaker 2: s titties.

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Speaker 1: So spooky, oh, okay, Taking the high road or taking

753
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Speaker 1: the subway, taking the highroad.

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Speaker 2: Okay, a trend forecast or a prophecy foretold?

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Speaker 3: Oh a prophecy foretold.

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Speaker 1: Being a hoarder or being inspired by Billy Porter.

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Speaker 3: Being inspired by Billy Porter.

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Speaker 2: Okay, walkable cities or petable kiddies.

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Speaker 1: Middle brow trash, being awarded, or developing a rash that

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Speaker 1: you need to get sorted.

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Speaker 3: Developing a rash get sorted.

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Speaker 2: Being concerned about the future of film, understanding that whatever

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Speaker 2: happens is God's will. That's good.

764
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Speaker 3: Being concerned about the future of.

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Speaker 1: Film, keeping it mellow in mar a lago or starring

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Speaker 1: in a fellow.

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Speaker 3: As Iago, starring in Othello as Iago. Wow?

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Speaker 4: Now can I ask question, what's the aim of it?

769
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Speaker 4: Your complicity to know, but so to measure your complicity

770
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Speaker 4: like you're being so deeply investigating there.

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Speaker 2: You're being so like like, oh, I was a gifted child.

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Speaker 2: Here's what's like.

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Speaker 1: Trip this segment is like, yeah, basically there are two

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Speaker 1: kinds of thinking mathematical thinking and artistic thinking, and what

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Speaker 1: this women and men and women. But you're sort of

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Speaker 1: rejecting the gender binary by being a man right now

777
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Speaker 1: and doing mathematical thinking. So basically what trips people up

778
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Speaker 1: with this segment is we ask things in a mathematical

779
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Speaker 1: way because we're like number is one thing or another thing, okay,

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Speaker 1: But then we judge you based on a performance rather

781
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Speaker 1: than any sort of like logical like, it is not

782
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Speaker 1: about whether you pick the right thing, and it's not

783
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Speaker 1: about whether you quote unquote know how it works. It's

784
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: about making an entrance and putting up and making an impact.

785
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Speaker 2: It's essentially about nothing. There's no goal. Yeah, it's more

786
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: about sort of looking inward and you know, learning to

787
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Speaker 2: love yourself.

788
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Speaker 3: I understand, and I feel good.

789
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Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, I actually did a really good job until,

790
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Speaker 1: of course the end when you ask what the rule?

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to say seven hundred and thirty two doves.

792
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Speaker 1: Out of a thousand.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm actually delights without that.

794
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Speaker 2: That's good.

795
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Speaker 1: Do you ever sort of like going back to the

796
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Speaker 1: mathematical verse satistic thinking. Yeah, do you ever find yourself

797
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Speaker 1: This happens to me a lot where I'll be like

798
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Speaker 1: really going in on something and someone will tell me like, Okay,

799
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Speaker 1: you made your point, and I'm like, I wasn't making

800
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Speaker 1: a point. I was completing your performance, that is, And

801
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Speaker 1: if you thought I was making a point, that is

802
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Speaker 1: on you.

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Speaker 2: No, that's fight. When someone's like, okay, you made your point.

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Speaker 2: H yeah, oh so you want a silence, right, Yeah,

805
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: it's like, well now I'm pissed.

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Speaker 1: But it's also like you don't care about pros like

807
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Speaker 1: you just care about making a point. I'm not a politician.

808
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: I'm a stylist.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm giving a critique and I'm giving a critique.

810
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of different angles to it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're not my editor, sweetheart.

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Speaker 2: Oh this is the brainstorming set actually.

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Speaker 4: But there's such an honesty in not because because what

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Speaker 4: I say to be benepulitive is like I'm just thinking this.

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Speaker 1: Through one hundred thinking it through.

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Speaker 3: I know exactly what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Wow, So it's much more honest to be like I'm

819
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Speaker 4: not finished my performance exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gorgeous, and actually.

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Speaker 1: Just accepting that every conversation is a performance. It is

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Speaker 1: a little duet, I mean even and and by the way,

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Speaker 1: there is a winner.

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Speaker 2: There's always a winner. This in particular, I actually do

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Speaker 2: feel more performative, of course, in a way that is like, oh,

826
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Speaker 2: like it's actually gonna help. I think like we.

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Speaker 1: Can meaning us being recorded and recorded and sitting around

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Speaker 1: this table and knowing people are literally like hired to

829
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Speaker 1: like put up a light.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, we're in when I play.

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Speaker 1: When I play, and it is about a dinner party

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Speaker 1: that goes wrong, and.

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Speaker 2: It's fully improvised. I want to talk about a dinner

834
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Speaker 2: party aspect, but I don't know if we should get

835
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Speaker 2: into it right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, do I know what I'm trying to do. I'm

837
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Speaker 1: trying to look into your eyes and okay, dinner party.

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Speaker 4: No, let's okay.

839
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Speaker 2: Should we need to.

840
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Speaker 3: Get to the observer effect?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but I want Oh, what's the observer effect?

842
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Speaker 3: Just the thing watched changes the thing being watched.

843
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Speaker 2: Well, yes, that's okay.

844
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Speaker 1: That's actually sort of what I was attempting very poorly

845
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Speaker 1: to get at when I was talking about how like

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Speaker 1: ninety percent of being a celebrity is being able to

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Speaker 1: like tune out the cameras or whatever.

848
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, yeah, in fact, you.

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Speaker 1: Can't separate the materiality of the technology no recording something

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Speaker 1: from the performance itself or even the awareness exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's why theater that that's literally like the difference between

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Speaker 1: different media, like the medium of theater is different from

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Speaker 1: the medium of television and the medium of film, partly

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Speaker 1: because of the mechanics that make.

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Speaker 2: It possible cam learning.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I have a question for you may have and

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Speaker 1: I hate the fact that I'm even asking this. I

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Speaker 1: hate myself for asking this.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, but I have it.

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Speaker 1: But I but unfortunately, if we have you here, there's

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Speaker 1: like no way for me to not ask this. Every

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Speaker 1: question is I've had this theory for at this point

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Speaker 1: about a year and a half that Ireland is trending

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Speaker 1: and I know that it's so if someone said that

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Speaker 1: to me about something I'm associated with, I would be

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Speaker 1: like truly funk off. But I can't forgive myself for

867
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Speaker 1: not asking.

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Speaker 2: Well, gay is not to me.

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Speaker 1: It started with obviously, it started with Sally Rooney and I.

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Speaker 3: Think name is Marxist novelist exactly.

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Speaker 1: I think Bantes of Sharon was huge. I also think

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Speaker 1: there is a reaction against all the sort of like

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Speaker 1: Jubilee Queen dying attention that England got, and people are like, literally,

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Speaker 1: what is the alternative to minutes?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Do you feel that ancesters Irish too?

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Speaker 1: Huh?

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Speaker 2: Bad sister's Irish too.

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Speaker 1: That's the other Bad Sisters. Wait, that was literally my

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Speaker 1: third one and I forgot Thank.

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Speaker 3: You, Bad Sisters.

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Speaker 4: And it's so funny because one thing I was thinking

883
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 4: of as a topic for this was like English, and

884
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 4: then I just felt like, no, I don't want to

885
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 4: get like into nationalism, you know, like and be Irish

886
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 4: in that way, but like the English language I meant

887
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 4: very true.

888
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: But then I think you're right.

889
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 4: And it's so interesting that you picked up in it,

890
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 4: because whenever I go home, there's like they're calling it

891
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 4: like the Celtic Revival or something.

892
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: It's like, hey, so it is a thing. Yeah, yeah,

893
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: I wish we had like a Belding ring.

894
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: Because I have to say, like, it's really rare that sorry,

895
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: I actually you need to let you talk. But all

896
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: I want to say is that all these things I

897
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: mentioned so often when something is like trending. It's in

898
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: a sense overrated. But guess what, I love Benshism in

899
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: a share and I love bad sisters and ultimately critiques aside,

900
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: I love Silent, so.

901
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 3: I love her too.

902
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,479
Speaker 1: It's all of it is good, which is so rare.

903
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm almost afraid to put a name to it because

904
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: then someone's going to take advantage of it and produce

905
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: bad Irish art.

906
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, we'll see. It's interesting that, like I

907
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 4: went to The Quiet Girl, is this Irish film that's

908
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 4: in Irish, in Irish language, and it's nominated for an

909
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 4: Oscar plus like twenty five percent of all acting nominees

910
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 4: this year.

911
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 3: Are Irish exactly.

912
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 4: It's a country with like four point two million people

913
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 4: in it, very smaller than the population in New York.

914
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: You know, it's tiny.

915
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 4: But anyway, when I go home, the thing that's interesting

916
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 4: is more people are learning Irish language. A lot of

917
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 4: my friends who lived in Dublin moved to the west

918
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 4: coast of Ireland, which is.

919
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 3: More like there's it's more.

920
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard to explain, but like old Ireland,

921
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 4: I suppose in the way that like you'd picture so

922
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 4: as in Dublin is has like hate and m and

923
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 4: Starbucks and it's like the headquarters of Google and Facebook

924
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 4: are there, and it's just like Dublin. But then you know,

925
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 4: if you go to the other parts of Ireland, there's

926
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 4: like Irish speaking and just a slower pace.

927
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: Like my family is like Greece and they're yeah, very equivalent.

928
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: Like if you go to like they're called like the

929
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: villages in Greece, it's simply like, yeah, it's like you're

930
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: in a different time period.

931
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and yeah, it's just like tricky because there's a

932
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 4: whole industry built around, like you know, the Irish diasper,

933
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 4: and like there was a thing where people thought maybe

934
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 4: The Bounches was set now, and it's set in nineteen

935
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 4: twenty three, so like something that I have to kind

936
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 4: of be careful, but I think you're right. And the

937
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 4: thing about it is the art coming out of Ireland

938
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 4: I think is really cool at the moment. And but

939
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 4: a funny thing about that too, Like when I went

940
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 4: to see The Quaker, like the movie here, it was

941
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 4: you know, like a New York screening where they invited

942
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 4: a bunch of Irish people and there was a state

943
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 4: minister there like you know, just this guy who came

944
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 4: out like a young government minister from Ireland because like

945
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 4: it was funded like a lot by Irish government. And

946
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 4: I got asked because I write as well, you know,

947
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 4: and I got like an email from like the Irish

948
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 4: Tourist Board being like we're taking journalists to the island

949
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 4: where the Banshi's a ministure was filmed and you know,

950
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 4: we'd bring you there for three days and three nights

951
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 4: and like which when I was like, but like the

952
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 4: government is like supporting the film industry in that very

953
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 4: intense way, so that helps.

954
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I didn't do that.

955
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 4: No, an absolutely no, because like, yeah, I tell me.

956
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: I almost went to that screening of the Choir Girl.

957
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: Oh and I like had something with my sister or

958
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: something that day and I couldn't go. But I it's

959
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: very special films, Okay, I need to watch it.

960
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: It's beautiful, Yeah it is. And it's also like I

961
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 4: think a good example of virshnists because it's not playing

962
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 4: and it's not you know, it's like not too dark

963
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 4: either because like a lot of especially theater is just.

964
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 3: Like the baby died and the baby still did.

965
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 4: And like there is a bit of that, but like

966
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 4: it's not too much, so it gets that nice balance.

967
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 4: And there's just like very cool, very young Irish people

968
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 4: and doing interesting things I think.

969
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:23,479
Speaker 1: And yeah, even aside from Sally Rooney, I means, yeah,

970
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: that's what I'm thinking of.

971
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

972
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: Wow, well I'm really glad I asked that.

973
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: I can't believe that's I love when you have something

974
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: that's actually for a guest specific I know, and then

975
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: it's correct.

976
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: Well I really have really that was Pharaoh. Yeah, I

977
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: really have been. Like so much of the stuff I've

978
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: enjoyed over the past year has some Irish also, like

979
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: Rashid Murphy releasing you album. There's just like there are

980
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: things happening constantly and I'm always like I gotta go.

981
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: Oh.

982
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: And also so many people who are traveling to Ireland,

983
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: which I don't know how that is, like because as

984
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: you know, as someone who like is from a very

985
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: touristy place, I know that that can be a double

986
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: edged sword, where like sometimes increased tourism can be bad

987
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 1: for the locals. But is that something that you're well,

988
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: your family has.

989
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's like five it's only five and

990
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 4: a half hours, so you know, I always say, like.

991
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: It's closing in Los Angeles, which it is. I think

992
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 3: it is. Yeah, Ireland.

993
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: I would actually love to do a live show and

994
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: and where Banches of an Asharan was set.

995
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 4: Oh, like I would say, it's so gorgeous and part

996
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 4: of me, like when I see like The Quaker, which

997
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 4: is set in like where a place my grandma's from,

998
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 4: and the Banshees where it's an island, and like it's

999
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 4: you know, so familiar to me, and I feel I

1000
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 4: do feel like what am I doing here?

1001
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally you're kidding me.

1002
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: Yes, And I go back to Greece.

1003
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like yeah, literally, I'm like, I mean, Ireland

1004
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: is even the country than Greece. So I do think

1005
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: for you it would be slightly more of a possibility,

1006
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: Like I literally don't even know what it was if

1007
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: I were to move back in a cafe. But yeah,

1008
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: it's crazy, like everything is cheaper, it is beautiful, the

1009
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 1: weather is better, my family is there. Yeah, you're sort

1010
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: of like, why am I getting sweet Green?

1011
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 3: I know, I know, but it's just you know, for now.

1012
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: Yes, of course it's changing.

1013
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: Like I said earlier, we don't know the end until

1014
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: we're dead.

1015
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: It's true.

1016
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: Remember when I.

1017
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: Said that, Yeah, and I will maybe the last one

1018
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: we ever.

1019
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 3: Have help you. You might get barred from Sweet Green.

1020
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, well I think that. I mean, all this

1021
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 1: international talk leads so well into our topic.

1022
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: M M. Maybe tell us what you've brought today and

1023
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 2: sort of what about it is straight to you?

1024
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 3: Okay?

1025
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 4: So my topic is green card marriages slash the K

1026
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 4: one fiance visa. Okay, So that's the step you take.

1027
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 3: Before you do green card marriage. If you're an American

1028
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 3: engaged to somebody from a different country and they come

1029
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 3: over here and they have three months to decide, you know,

1030
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 3: they have to leave at the end of three months

1031
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 3: or they have to get married.

1032
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 4: Which is why it was like a genius taking clock

1033
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 4: idea for a TV show ninety Day Fiance.

1034
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: I didn't realize it was ninety days. Yeah. It was

1035
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 2: literally based on the frame the legal friends sponsored by

1036
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: the government. Yeah, that's crazy, isn't that crazy?

1037
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,959
Speaker 4: But I and I was thinking to myself, I'm sure

1038
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 4: it's very straight, you know, because it's obviously like all contracted,

1039
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 4: it's basically it's marriage.

1040
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: But then I was like I should check. So I

1041
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 3: was like looking at it just.

1042
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 4: On my phone on my way, Like I was like

1043
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 4: looking at the data and it's almost all women who

1044
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 4: come over to get married to straight men in America.

1045
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 3: Does that make it straight?

1046
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: I think that makes it first of all, Yes, that

1047
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: makes it.

1048
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's a sleigh because it's

1049
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: women doing it. Then it's kind of like, well, if.

1050
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 1: It's women doing it, then they're taking charge of their lives.

1051
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1052
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're manipulating it what they want.

1053
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just have be married for two years, I think,

1054
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 4: and then you get your citizenship.

1055
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: And then you can get divorced.

1056
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 3: Then you can get divorced, but you do have for

1057
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 3: two years.

1058
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: Here's my question in ninety day Fiance, which I wish

1059
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: I had done some research and watched some of In

1060
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: ninety fiance, is there any pretense of them attempting to

1061
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: actually have a relationship or is it purely transactional.

1062
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 4: No, you have to convince the government, you have to

1063
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 4: get letters from your friends. There's a whole process where

1064
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 4: you have to convince people that it's real. Okay, so

1065
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 4: there's no there's like it's like a cover up of

1066
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 4: the transaction, which is you know, I think you don't

1067
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 4: have to have seen the show. I don't think, even

1068
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 4: though it's one of the most popular shows in.

1069
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: I know it's crazy. Yeah, I mean one of our

1070
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: blind spots is reality television. Yeah, and stand we don't know.

1071
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: We watched drag Race and that's kind of yeah.

1072
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: And then I in the past have watched one of

1073
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: the Housewives and vandor Primp Rules, but it's been years.

1074
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 4: So well, I'm not a big watcher either. But my

1075
00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 4: friend works on night worked on night day Fiance, and

1076
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 4: I got so curious about it because I could hear

1077
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 4: her sometimes interfeering the men here, and like you have

1078
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 4: to be like you want to put people on TV

1079
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 4: that are like funny and like maybe weird, but like

1080
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 4: not like disgusting.

1081
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:15,959
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1082
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: Right, So the men want a girlfriend, yeah, and they.

1083
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 3: Have I mean really they want a wife.

1084
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: They want a wife.

1085
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1086
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: And here's my question, I guess is like why do

1087
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: they prefer an international wife to an American?

1088
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: Right, because the assumption is of course that they like

1089
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 2: can't find a wife without like you know, having something

1090
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: to manipul.

1091
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: I see. So that's what it is. It's like these

1092
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: men that feel like they could not get a wife

1093
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 1: unless they have something to offer her.

1094
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is.

1095
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's the assumption.

1096
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1097
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 4: I mean some of them gave other justifications, like they're like,

1098
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 4: you know, like often problematic things like I just prefer

1099
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 4: Filipino women.

1100
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: Like it's the Celtic Revival, so like let's do it.

1101
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she's the next Sealing Roon.

1102
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: I couldn't.

1103
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: Actually she is salary salary. Wait, salary is yeah, girl,

1104
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: you do not have to do that.

1105
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 2: You're successful knowing that's like just goes to show you,

1106
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 2: like how messed up the book industry. Yeah, she's like,

1107
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: I'm doing it to take a.

1108
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 3: Point normal people. Okay, I am one, Yeah exactly. Yeah,

1109
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 3: I don't know. I am.

1110
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 4: I think that they I mean, American citizenship is is

1111
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 4: a real price, of course.

1112
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 3: You know.

1113
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 4: But it's also when I think about it, I think

1114
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 4: about like is that everything they have?

1115
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 3: Like that's all they have?

1116
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 4: Right, because like you think, Okay, you want to be

1117
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 4: in a transaction with something, you want to be you

1118
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 4: want to make a contract like you marry someone. In

1119
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 4: that way, you're saying like I'm giving you this and

1120
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 4: you're giving me this, and really that's what they're saying

1121
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 4: they're just saying I have you just by dint of

1122
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 4: being born.

1123
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 3: They're like, this is all I've got.

1124
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 4: And often they're very very poor, like they're from like

1125
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 4: really isolated parts of America. These are not like you know,

1126
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 4: they're like kind of high achieving. They're not the Rowan

1127
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 4: Fowers of the of America.

1128
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: Got it.

1129
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, But what they do have is American citizenship. Wow.

1130
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: There's something so deeply sad about that.

1131
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1132
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: I'm the only person at pointed.

1133
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 2: That as whoa biting cultural commentary.

1134
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: So I think that's sort of devastating. Basically my response

1135
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: to ninety I'm afraid to speak. Sorry, not to be

1136
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: condescending by I think they deserve love.

1137
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: No, thank you for saying that.

1138
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: But for me, yeah, it makes me want to slip

1139
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: my rest.

1140
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 3: Wiped a smile off my face.

1141
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: Wow.

1142
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, I mean it's sad. It's also like it

1143
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 3: makes for good TV.

1144
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: Of course. Yeah, I'm sure you feel this way as

1145
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: a as someone who immigrated to America, but like, growing up,

1146
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 1: the pursuit of American citizens citizenship was like the number

1147
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: one thing in my family. It was like there are

1148
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: you know, there are five of us. I luckily was

1149
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: me and one of my one of my sisters and

1150
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: I were both born here, so we had it to

1151
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: begin with. Yeah, and the other three members of our

1152
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: family were not born here, so there was this like

1153
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: you know, it was like my dad was close to

1154
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: getting it, but then he had to return to Greece

1155
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: to do his mandatory military service. But then the clock

1156
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: went back to zero of like how long he had

1157
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: lived here when he came back. And then like my

1158
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: other my youngest sister had to be here for a

1159
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: certain amount of time before we moved back to Greece.

1160
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: Like it is. Citizenship is so genuinely kofka esque and

1161
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: changes like every the priorities changed with every government in

1162
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 1: every five years and depending on who is lobbying who

1163
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: to get what kind of immigrants in America, And so

1164
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: the idea of any kind of shortcut is genuinely extremely

1165
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: alluring because it is so difficult to do it quote

1166
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: unquote the right, you know, the acceptable way.

1167
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 4: And I would say, like the greatest thing an American

1168
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 4: can do is like marry someone to give them a

1169
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 4: green Carreri one hundred, Like I'm all for that. I

1170
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 4: really like It's like, you know, people are like, well,

1171
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 4: welcome to you. Immigrations isn't broke like Mary want Marrian immigrants. Yeah,

1172
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 4: but you know it's not that, like you do have

1173
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 4: to prove that it's really like and it's like money

1174
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 4: and you have to make sure like if you're an

1175
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 4: American citizen and you marry someone, they go through all

1176
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 4: your taxes and everything. You know, you have to be

1177
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 4: like kind of on the ball. So that's kind of

1178
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 4: hard for some people my boy friends. No, but it's true,

1179
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 4: like it's a stupid system. So I don't feel like

1180
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 4: you shouldn't do that, like it's like a terrible system.

1181
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: You should Oh my god, no part of me. It's

1182
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: like when people are accused of like doing fraud to

1183
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: like get out of work, like pretending they have a

1184
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: disability or something to get out of work. I'm like, yeah,

1185
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: you should do that.

1186
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 3: That's good.

1187
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: That's good, and more like that's morally good, Like.

1188
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 3: Everyone should pretend to have a disability and get married.

1189
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Well, and marriage is supposed to be a

1190
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 2: transaction anyway. I know, like so many people in America

1191
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 2: get married for like health insurance. Yes, And it's like

1192
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 2: that's the big push to be like okay, well it

1193
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 2: would be better for taxes and health insurance, so let's

1194
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: go for it. Yeah, it's like why not add a

1195
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: little green card there?

1196
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: I guess it's like it's the straightest thing about it

1197
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: in a sense, is exactly that it's like marriage as

1198
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: a business proposition, yeah, which is the core of one

1199
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: of the chore and also then adding on top of

1200
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: that a layer of performance of like, well we have

1201
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: to have a photo album proving we're in love.

1202
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we can't say it's a business transaction exactly,

1203
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: say it's for love.

1204
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: So in some sense it's actually emblematic of the larger

1205
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: institution of straight marriage. Yeah, makes the subtext text.

1206
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 3: That's true, it's true. Yeah, that's what I was going

1207
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 3: to say actually.

1208
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 2: Too.

1209
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 5: Yeah weird, Yeah, I was dominating subtext texts actually, And

1210
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 5: it's very intrusive to Also, queer couples do obviously get

1211
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 5: married and you know, but like and get green cards

1212
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 5: true marriage and stuff.

1213
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 4: But like you do have to sometimes they ask you

1214
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,959
Speaker 4: about your sex life and like you have to who's

1215
00:56:58,960 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 4: the bottom?

1216
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: Literally Joe Biden being like, so.

1217
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 2: Who does what? So you're in honor? Are you guys

1218
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: open play together? Separate? What is it.

1219
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 4: You definitely couldn't. I bet you couldn't say you're in

1220
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 4: an open marriage. Oh I'm sure not if you were

1221
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 4: doing your interview.

1222
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: No, you have to be Christian and Republican.

1223
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it did come.

1224
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 4: I could be wrong, but I think the k one

1225
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 4: that visa was because of like soldiers you know, abroad

1226
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 4: who were like, I want to bring this girl back,

1227
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 4: you know, from maybe Korea.

1228
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 3: Vietnam, I don't know, totally totally, Yeah.

1229
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's or maybe even World War two,

1230
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 4: because there's like Americans all over the world bringing back women.

1231
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 3: God, so jealous are.

1232
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: It will take truly like generations to undo the damage

1233
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: of heteroistic reality. It's crazy to be like, yeah, there's

1234
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: a rich tradition of men bringing women back, and it's

1235
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: like whoa, wha, wha, whoa yeah wait what.

1236
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 4: And the government was like, oh, we have to organize this, Yeah,

1237
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 4: we have to organize.

1238
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: Well, the men want it.

1239
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's law.

1240
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 4: But it's just really confusing too because they first, like

1241
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 4: a lot of the like the anti like the Chinese

1242
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 4: Exclusion Act was a lot of that was like fake

1243
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 4: supposedly to like stop sex work.

1244
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 3: So it's like, well, what do you want? Then what

1245
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 3: you're saying like, we're not bringing anyone because they're sex workers.

1246
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:37,439
Speaker 3: Not true.

1247
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 4: But then they're like, oh, we'll allow you to bring

1248
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 4: in like the women that you want to have sex with.

1249
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:43,919
Speaker 2: Right.

1250
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: It seems like it's sort of like the two things

1251
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,439
Speaker 1: taken into account or what a man wants and how

1252
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: what a man needs, what a man wants, what a

1253
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: man needs, and is it in the Bible and if

1254
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: it passes those three tests, yeah, I gotta take out

1255
00:58:58,800 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: a babe.

1256
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: Whoever, whoever, just keep it quiet.

1257
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: I feel like green card marriages are such a trope

1258
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: in TV and film. Yeah, like The Proposal and like

1259
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: Unwill and Grace famously, Tay Diggs played a guy Will

1260
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: was into, but he was Canadian, and so Grace offered

1261
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: to marry him. Oh I didn't know that, just to

1262
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: like bring him.

1263
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: I think I saw one of these upsides. Yeah, I

1264
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: mean it's a very sitcom.

1265
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: The ninety day thing is very it's very sitcom.

1266
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and having to prove your love to like a

1267
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 2: government officials like inherently comedic. And it's like, so I

1268
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: get it. I get why you would run to it.

1269
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: For of course.

1270
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 4: I mean they also have they have all these spinoff

1271
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 4: shows to call like ninety Day the other way, so

1272
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 4: where like the American goes abroad, And that's incredible because

1273
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 4: often so like the majority of those visas are for

1274
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 4: a Philippine ad women and then so like the men

1275
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 4: American men like go to the Philippines and they just

1276
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 4: don't have clue like.

1277
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 3: What's going on.

1278
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 4: And they're from you know, like rural America somewhere, and

1279
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 4: they've never traveled round anything. And then they just like

1280
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 4: go to the Philippines and then they're just like out

1281
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 4: of their minds.

1282
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 2: Wow. Well that sounds a little more playful.

1283
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 3: That's fun to watch. That wouldn't make you too sad,

1284
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 3: I don't think.

1285
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, what you know. In the words of Mi i

1286
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: a borers, what's up with that?

1287
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 3: And her paper planes? You know paper planes or visas?

1288
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's right. Yeah, but also borders, what's

1289
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: up with that? One of the most important statements ever

1290
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: said in music.

1291
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 2: When she said the politics change.

1292
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: Wait, actually, I just want to be candid. I did

1293
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: not know paper planes were visas, and I pretended I did,

1294
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: And now I want you to explain. So it's so

1295
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: paper planes, So that song is also about borders obviously.

1296
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 2: Well yeah, it's like, well, not that obvious. We both

1297
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: didn't know.

1298
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, hold on, all I want to do? Okay, Well, yeah,

1299
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: what's the Well I think maybe let's not look too

1300
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: much into it because I think it's.

1301
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 3: Not imagine if I just made it up. I'm just

1302
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 3: sweating sitting here. I don't think about it too.

1303
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, paper planes, are they like you to travel? Yes, yeah,

1304
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 4: that's true.

1305
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 3: But wait, you were gonna say borders. What's up with that?

1306
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1307
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 3: Is that what you're actually thinking?

1308
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 2: Literally?

1309
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

1310
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 2: I know it's insane, but to another country, and it's like,

1311
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 2: why is this so difficult? Like I'm like, shouldn't we

1312
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 2: just like hop off the plane and get in a car?

1313
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: I know? And it's also like, just okay, well, I

1314
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: guess it comes down to I understand the point of

1315
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: my political beliefs aside, I understand theoretically the point of borders.

1316
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: I'm not like, I'm not like why I understand this

1317
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: is the fact that in sports, team exactly, yes, like

1318
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: countries need different flags and they need anthems to be

1319
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: perform at the Olympics. Yeah, and there also needs to

1320
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: be like the best international feature.

1321
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 2: Word of the Oscars. It's pretty simple.

1322
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the idea that like a foreigner is inherently

1323
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: more evil than someone living in your country is truly

1324
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: so arbitrary when you think about how many evil people

1325
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: exist in every country.

1326
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also how they just change all the time.

1327
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 4: Yes, Like the Philippines was like a US colony basically

1328
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 4: for a while, so like why are they acting now, like, oh,

1329
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 4: you need a special like you know, obviously, like Mexican

1330
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 4: America took part in Mexico. Like it's so they're so

1331
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 4: fluid or itis are but not for only if you're powerful,

1332
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 4: you know.

1333
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 3: But I don't know. I don't know about the like

1334
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 3: the visa. Still I do like your what you said

1335
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 3: about like the women who come over is like their

1336
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 3: destiny too, and they're like I'm doing this, like I'm

1337
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 3: getting this, and.

1338
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: There's definitely do whatever I want exactly, you know. And

1339
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: it's like and in many ways they have more power

1340
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: than the main I mean, I understand that the man

1341
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: has the citizenship, which is what is at stake, Yeah.

1342
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 3: But the men are it's so funny what they believe

1343
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:58,919
Speaker 3: about themselves though.

1344
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 2: This straight guys, I think they're not desperate.

1345
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and they think that she loves them. Oh,

1346
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 4: I fully think often that just she she just loves them,

1347
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 4: you know. And it's like so nice because like no

1348
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 4: American woman loved him, and now here's this woman who's

1349
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 4: like beautiful and young and she just loves him, she

1350
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 4: wants to live with him, and they're totally I think

1351
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 4: they do believe it.

1352
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find a positive trying to only read

1353
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 2: it as like.

1354
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 3: Good, yeah, she does love it.

1355
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 2: Nice sisters are doing it for the film. That's really nice.

1356
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 2: I know of only one gay version of like in

1357
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 2: like a personal life.

1358
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: I gotta say, my instinct when you said that the

1359
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: other day was like I also know gay versions, but

1360
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: now I can't think of any of them because I'm like,

1361
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure I know. I think that I think I

1362
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: know a few, like Canada US oh yeahs, which I

1363
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: think is like it's sort of like everything we're talking

1364
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: about with that, any of the politics, yeah, sort of

1365
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: like well it's Canadian.

1366
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, because because it's for Canadians, there's like

1367
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 4: tons of undocumented Canadians.

1368
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1369
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 4: America and then it's only when you kind of get

1370
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 4: into it, I guess, go back to where you came from.

1371
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the one I know. I literally think it's

1372
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 2: like the gay guys American, but then I think the

1373
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 2: man he married is like actually straight. Whoa.

1374
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: Oh, so it's literally like a green card marriage.

1375
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like, literally, do you.

1376
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 3: Think any money change tons?

1377
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 2: I think actually it's possible. But it's like a juicy one.

1378
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 2: And it also sounded like hot, Like I was like, oh,

1379
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 2: you guys like pretend to be in a couple. Sometimes

1380
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 2: with the governments, of course you think it's hot, Like

1381
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 2: the husband has a girlfriend.

1382
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: I cannot believe you. There is nothing you won't turn

1383
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: into like a fetish.

1384
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 2: It's just a lot government official comes down and you

1385
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,439
Speaker 2: guys have to like sleep in the same bed.

1386
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 1: They like turn on the TV and they've like planned it,

1387
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: so it's a sex tape of them, like, oh, sorry,

1388
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: didn't me for you to see that, but that's just

1389
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: what we do all.

1390
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 4: Night and do like the idea of them putting together

1391
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,959
Speaker 4: photo albums, So you need to go like maybe higher

1392
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 4: a photographer and like go through different seasons and everything,

1393
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 4: you know, like different costumes You and the Sky.

1394
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well that's a classic sitcom thing.

1395
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 3: I feel like that.

1396
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen that montage of.

1397
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a Gerrard depper Dove film. Oh I'm

1398
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 4: saying his name wrong, I'm sure, but like and it

1399
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 4: was called Green Cards, and I think that, like, you know,

1400
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 4: they really did fall in love, like they like.

1401
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 3: It was arranged and then they really did fall in love.

1402
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 4: But like, if you are doing a big trick together,

1403
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 4: like if you are doing a big like putting the

1404
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 4: ball over the government size and stuff, then that is

1405
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 4: like that does bond.

1406
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and probably if.

1407
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 3: You're doing trust each other a lot.

1408
01:05:58,040 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't want to risk being in another

1409
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: relationsip ship and having that found out, so probably you'll

1410
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: be single that entire time.

1411
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you are doing.

1412
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: You are you have a common secret? Yeah, it's something

1413
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,479
Speaker 1: that bonds you mm hmmm.

1414
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 4: A lot of paperwork together, a lot of paperwork, you know,

1415
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:12,919
Speaker 4: your heads together over the paper.

1416
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then after handlight Yeah, after two years you're like, well,

1417
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: what I want to do? You start from scratch? Like, yeah,

1418
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: at this point I know this person probably better than

1419
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 1: I would a random person. I went on a few

1420
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: dates with Yeah, that is.

1421
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 3: The American definitely. No, Yeah, stay with them.

1422
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: Let's make it work. It's been two years.

1423
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 1: Wow?

1424
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 2: Should we in our final segment?

1425
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 1: I think so. Any final thoughts on No, I just.

1426
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 3: Want to really apologize for bringing you both down. And yeah,

1427
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 3: I think making.

1428
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 2: Apologize to the listeners.

1429
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 4: I'm sorry rolling in, I'm sorry. But a nice way

1430
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 4: obviously to lift everyone's to be a little proposal.

1431
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, who's gonna propose?

1432
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god?

1433
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: Do you want us to propose to No?

1434
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 3: No, I don't know. Are you I don't have a

1435
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 3: green card.

1436
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 2: You don't have a green so in some senses you're single.

1437
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 1: Here's wait, I have a question. Are you You don't

1438
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: have to answer this if you don't. Are you single?

1439
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1440
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: Okay, well I would like to say that if.

1441
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 2: I do.

1442
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 1: What I was gonna say is because I'm not Seriously,

1443
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, if any listeners want to propose

1444
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 1: to mave.

1445
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 2: Slide slide into the DM.

1446
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 3: I have had friends offer.

1447
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I just don't need it, like you know,

1448
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 4: as in like I have a really good visa and everything.

1449
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 4: But I have had friends like offer. Definitely, But and

1450
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 4: if I was stuck.

1451
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: I totally you've considered it.

1452
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you Mary Randa, then go back and join

1453
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 2: the Celtic Revival and say say goodbye to Sweet Green forever.

1454
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 3: You can be in the Celtic Revival.

1455
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 2: I would love to.

1456
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to be in the Celtic Arrival.

1457
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 1: I would actually love to be in Bad Sister season two.

1458
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 2: I actually would thrive as like the American in like

1459
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 2: a show.

1460
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:23,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're walking.

1461
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 2: And I'd be like, I don't know why I'm here.

1462
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: Sharon Horgan to me is like true mother. I love

1463
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: I really love her. And one time, years ago, one time,

1464
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 1: years ago, someone told me that she someone on her

1465
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: team quote unquote told me she had read something I

1466
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 1: had written. And I I suspect he was lying. I

1467
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 1: suspect it was like she loved.

1468
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 2: It everyone in this town.

1469
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but to this day I have chosen to believe it.

1470
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, she's just waiting for the right time to

1471
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 1: get it.

1472
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 3: I'm sure true, Yeah, I'm sure.

1473
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 1: I mean this was like six years ago.

1474
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was reading a lot back.

1475
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: Maybe she's gonna call me after this episode and then she's,

1476
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: oh my god, I had forgotten about that. Yes, we'd

1477
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: love to make it.

1478
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 4: God, you know, I went to like a talk that

1479
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 4: she did years ago when I was living in Ireland

1480
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 4: but pre revival and.

1481
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 2: Sad I was like the last of us, I've got

1482
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 2: to go.

1483
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 3: I fell there in twenty ten and.

1484
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 4: She was doing you know, like a screenwriter's talk organized

1485
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 4: by like I can't remember who, but like it was

1486
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 4: that the writer's thing is center and.

1487
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 3: There was only women in the audience.

1488
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 4: Wow, you know, it's like only women can go and

1489
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 4: see a woman talk. And there's like more male screenwriters

1490
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 4: in Ireland than there are female ones. But like Sharon

1491
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 4: Horgan was talking and she's like a genius obviously literally

1492
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 4: the most Now this was before, but it was after

1493
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 4: pulling it, Like you know, she was like up there

1494
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 4: already and clearly so funny and great. But anyway, that's

1495
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,879
Speaker 4: like not my resounding memory of her, but sometimes I

1496
01:09:57,960 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 4: kind of kneedle on that one.

1497
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 3: Think about it there.

1498
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 4: I know, it's nuts they could have like listened to

1499
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 4: ten years ago like I did.

1500
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 3: Look at me now.

1501
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 2: It helped so much.

1502
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 1: It's crazy that you can even be Sharon Horgan and

1503
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 1: people will still not.

1504
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 2: Listen to you, I know, because you're a woman.

1505
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 1: It's like, what more can you do?

1506
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 2: You're Sharon Organ?

1507
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:24,520
Speaker 3: No more, no more listening to her now and I'm engaged.

1508
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 2: Wait.

1509
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: Okay, my mic idea for Sharon Horgan's next show that

1510
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 1: will combine green Card marriages and the Celtic Revival. It's

1511
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 1: literally starting you and you're in You're in a green

1512
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,480
Speaker 1: card marriage with who's a hot.

1513
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 2: Who has a mole, is American and can play straight

1514
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 2: really well no mole far Oh my god.

1515
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: I would love it if it was starring in a

1516
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: green part Sharon Horrigan show on Apple.

1517
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I me, and would have to be in

1518
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 4: the two as she just would be his mom.

1519
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. It's like her big comic is just

1520
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 1: like a light comedy. She's like arown man, who's this girl?

1521
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 2: She plays himself? Yeah, he plays himself.

1522
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:19,879
Speaker 3: He plays himself. She plays herself.

1523
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,600
Speaker 2: Yes, you play yourself and you play yourself. It's a

1524
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 2: reality show.

1525
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 1: And by the way, words ideas, and you're doing a

1526
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 1: podcast in part of it.

1527
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 3: Wow, say you're fick.

1528
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 2: Oh that's to our final segment. Okay, well you introduced

1529
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: to this.

1530
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: Yes, there was not there will be nothing. I want

1531
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 1: more in my life. So I'm just thinking of what

1532
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 1: men want, what men need, and is it in the Bible.

1533
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: My iconic joke from earlier that everyone loved that was

1534
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 1: Okay may. Our final segment is called shout Outs, and

1535
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: in this segment we pay homage to a classic straight

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01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: artistic tradition, the radio shout out. I think you know

1537
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 1: MTV's TRL. Think you're calling into a radio show and

1538
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 1: shouting out your squad back home. We want to shout

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01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: out something that we that we've been loving lately and

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01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: that we want to give a shout out to. And

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01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: guess what I don't have one?

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01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 2: Guess what I have? One? Whoa?

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01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, go off?

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01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,560
Speaker 2: What's up? Freaks? Losing perverts say, I'm here. I just

1545
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 2: want to give a huge shout out to spring lighting.

1546
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: I feel the sun has changed in the last week

1547
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 2: and it is completely different now. And yes, it's still

1548
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 2: cold when we're recording this. It is early early March,

1549
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 2: but the lighting is different and it is like I

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01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 2: feel when I'm looking out a window, like, oh, I

1551
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 2: bet it's warm outside, and that even just thinking that

1552
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,759
Speaker 2: for a moment does wonders for my mood. I feel

1553
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 2: on top of the world. I feel like like, I'm

1554
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 2: actually remembering the version of myself from last spring and

1555
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 2: last summer that was smarter, funnier, more well adjusted, more

1556
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 2: well read. And I can see that version of me

1557
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 2: coming back and he is ready to solve the So

1558
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 2: shout out to spring Lighting. I see you and I

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01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 2: feel warm.

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01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: What's up listeners out there in all countries, there are

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01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: no borders on this podcast. I want to give a

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01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 1: shout out to the linen lobby for convincing me for

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01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: the past thirty years that I want a linen suit,

1564
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: despite the fact that every time I try one on

1565
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 1: it looks like fucking shit. Hey, look it is off, wrinkly,

1566
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: Oh wait, the facts weirdly, you think it's going to

1567
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 1: be good for warm weather, but it's still a suit.

1568
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 1: You might as well just wear a normal suit. And

1569
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:40,679
Speaker 1: you think you're gonna look good in a lighter color,

1570
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 1: but guess what suits are meant to be dark folks.

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01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 1: And guess what Despite all of that, despite the fact

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01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: that I recently tried on the linen suit and it

1573
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 1: went into my butt in a way I have not

1574
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 1: seen any pants go into my butt before, I am

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01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,719
Speaker 1: after this recording going and trying on another linen suit

1576
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 1: because I can't get over the fact that I need

1577
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 1: one for summer weddings this year and I'm going to

1578
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: one in a month, and I need to wear linen

1579
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: suit because the invite said linen suits are okay, and

1580
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 1: I checked that as an order, and guess what. None

1581
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: of them are gonna look good. But I am gonna

1582
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: overpay for them, and then I'm gonna wear them and

1583
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: not post the picks.

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01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look bad. Woo. This is really smart. Actually,

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01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 2: I think linen suits are only meant for like film sets,

1586
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 2: because it always a steamer off, like just off cam,

1587
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 2: like they always look good in movies and TV shows

1588
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 2: and in ads, and then it's like but then you

1589
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 2: sit down once and it's like a wrinkly mess. It's truly.

1590
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: I mean I feel this way about linen sheets too,

1591
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 1: which I should have mentioned the shout outs and goes

1592
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 1: back to linen lody. I'm like, what is the deal

1593
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: with linen? Why are we still pretending? And yet and yet,

1594
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm not joking that I'm going to

1595
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 1: go try on another.

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01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 2: Suit after this? Where are you going? J Crow Classic and.

1597
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 3: The baggy they bag out at the knees. Yes, yeah,

1598
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 3: they're just yeah.

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01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: Also, I have to say not to get too real

1600
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 1: about a body image on this podcast, but as someone

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01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 1: who struggles with body, suits are actually really uh something

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01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: I love wearing because they are structured in a way that, like,

1603
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 1: no matter what your body type is as a gentleman,

1604
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,799
Speaker 1: it makes you just sort of look like a candle

1605
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: because of the shoulder pads and because of the way

1606
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: it's and linen. Suits are unstructured, so you also don't

1607
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: feel as hot as you would and wearing a normal suit,

1608
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: it's just sort of like, this is your body type

1609
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 1: and we're putting a thing on.

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01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 3: It, we're draping us.

1611
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 2: And yet I really hope it fits. What when I go,

1612
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 2: I bet it will, I bet it's okay? Maybe when

1613
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:32,839
Speaker 2: you are ready?

1614
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 1: Oh oh my god, she's ready.

1615
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.

1616
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 4: Shout out because I never did want of these, so

1617
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 4: I wrote down shout out to all my curly haired

1618
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 4: women with glasses working in wool shops aka yarn stores

1619
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 4: all around the world. I know you're shy girls. All

1620
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 4: you care about is the fabric air community. But guess

1621
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 4: what I care about too, Watching you light up when

1622
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 4: I ask you about kitchens. It makes me believe the

1623
01:15:56,360 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 4: world's gonna be okay, and and maybe a stitch in

1624
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 4: time really will save nine. I love you as much

1625
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 4: as you love knitting. And how can you even million

1626
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 4: excuse me, how could you even measure that it's an

1627
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 4: Infinity scarf and your both ends?

1628
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 3: Baby?

1629
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was incredible and it was great tie into

1630
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 2: your product line.

1631
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 3: I know.

1632
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 1: Wait, I can't believe I ran out of time and

1633
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 1: didn't talk about your product line.

1634
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have this. This is just for me.

1635
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 2: So it's just one piece.

1636
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 3: It's just one Yeah, you could charge millions and it

1637
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 3: smells like bed bath and beyond that cherry face.

1638
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: Color palette is like so sophisticated.

1639
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 3: Oh thank you so much.

1640
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: It really is. It's like those close together can only

1641
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 1: you have to be talented to like make it work.

1642
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: Like they couldn't sell that at J Crew.

1643
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 4: No, No, it took her long time. It's four strands

1644
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 4: of more hair held together, so it did take me ages.

1645
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 4: And in fact, it's so funny because I absolutely hate

1646
01:16:58,439 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 4: it when I made it and I tried it on,

1647
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 4: and it took me so long, and I was nearly

1648
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 4: going to give it to charity. And then I thought, no,

1649
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 4: it's too crap for the charity shop because there's a

1650
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 4: few mistakes. I don't know if you can see them

1651
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 4: like this.

1652
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 2: Well, we love imperfections.

1653
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a mole for your clothes.

1654
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 2: Wow. Well, thank god this is a visual podcast now.

1655
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 1: I know truly. I was like, we have to get

1656
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: a photo, but then I remembered it's going to be

1657
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 1: on YouTube. There's going to be a photo video video.

1658
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:25,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1659
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 4: Well, I'm thrilled to be here for your very first

1660
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 4: YouTube podcasts.

1661
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 1: It's an honor to have you.

1662
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks so much for doing it.

1663
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 1: A delight, what a delight.

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01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 2: Well bye,