1 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Here we go, the official show on the fish Stripes 2 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: podcast channel, now presented by Xogun. Check out xogun for 3 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: the most powerful handheld massagers at xogun dot com. E 4 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: x O g u N dot com. I'm Eli Susman, 5 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: the managing editor of fish Stripes, where we cover your 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: Miami Marlins every day in our own way. Go to 7 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: fish Stripes dot com. One more month remaining in this 8 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: regular season if you haven't already, just leave a rating 9 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: and review for fish Stripes on Apple. 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The Marlins just won a series. 17 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: At this stage of the season, do not spend a 18 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: whole lot of time going into the particulars of individual games. 19 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: When the team is twenty three games below five hundred 20 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: and only twenty five games remaining of the year, and 21 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: the roster is comprised the way it is you understand 22 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: that it's not really worth emphasizing in terms of where 23 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: this organization is going as a whole. These games were 24 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: kind of interesting, though, I mean not only winning the series, 25 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: but coming awfully close to sweeping the series, which we 26 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: know has been such a rarity for the Marlins this season. 27 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: You remember on Friday one of the biggest rallies of 28 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: the entire Marlin season to open up that game, putting 29 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: up double digit runs on the Phillies and the opener, 30 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: and then the two other games after that, both of 31 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: them in the gorgeous Sugar Kings City Connects uniforms. We're 32 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: more closely contested with the Marlins winning on Saturday and 33 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: then losing an extra endings on Sunday. The main topic 34 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: of this episode is going to be one that does 35 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: have more impact on the team's long term viability, and 36 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: that's how they are going to handle little Brian Anderson, 37 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: who is believed to be out for the season now 38 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: after aggravating his left shoulder injuries. We'll be getting into 39 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: that in just a few minutes, but some individual player 40 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: notes to get into from this weekend. From the Marlins 41 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: versus Phillies on Saturday, we finally got the return of 42 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: Trevor Rodgers after missing more than a month prior to 43 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: that he was dealing with backspasms. Made one start after that, 44 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: and then was gone for several weeks to deal with 45 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: a family emergency. As we later were informed, he'd lost 46 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: both of his grandfathers to COVID nineteen and had a 47 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: scary situation with his mom as well before she was 48 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: able to pull out of it. The Marlins give them 49 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: credit for allowing him to give priority to what really matters, 50 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: more so than baseball, more so than Rookie of the 51 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: Year and all that stuff. If you're interested in where 52 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: Rogers may stand in the Rookie of the Year race, 53 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: we're going to have an article up on fish stripes 54 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: updating that very shortly from Wan Payez from this start, 55 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: he was not fully stretched out to be a starter 56 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: again after the time away and after a relatively quick 57 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: rehab assignment, so he gets pulled in the middle of 58 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: the fifth inning and gives up two runs. He recorded 59 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: only three strikeouts, which is low by his standards for sure, 60 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: eight base runners overall between his and walks, and got 61 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: taken deep by Andrew McCutcheon. But the stuff in a 62 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: vacuum looked pretty close to normal. His fastball velocity peaked 63 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: in over ninety six miles per hour in a couple 64 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: of instances, and comfortably sitting around ninety four. Good change ups, 65 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: good sliders, a lot of change ups, and a lot 66 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: of sliders. What was important about this is he finally 67 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: got to work with Alex Jackson for the first time. 68 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: Maybe that's not a critical component, but we're not sure 69 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: exactly how prominently involved Jackson will be with this team 70 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: next season if he doesn't start to hit. Just a 71 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: little bit from a pitching catcher relationship, though, it was 72 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: important to get this out of the way. Hopefully you know, 73 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: by his next start he will be relatively stretched out 74 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: to normal. I don't think they would hesitate to let 75 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: him go right around one hundred pitches moving forward over 76 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: these final four or hopefully five more outings that he 77 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: could squeeze in between now and the very end of 78 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: the year. The rest of the bullpen behind him was 79 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: great in that game, though, to let that performance hold 80 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: up and for the Marlins to come away with that 81 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: win on Saturday, somebody who pitched on both Saturday and 82 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: Sunday shout out to Steven Okert, I think any way 83 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: you slices, he has been the number one relief pitcher 84 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: for the Marlins since the All Star Break. I think 85 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: that was right arounds when he came up from Triple 86 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: A Jacksonville double check that it may have been a 87 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: little bit before that, but to this point now has 88 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 1: appeared in twenty four games and he's got an ERA 89 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: of about one point eight through all that time. Used in 90 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: a variety of situations, sometimes multi endings, sometimes very high 91 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: leverage as he was this weekend. It's been very impressive 92 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: for a guy that had some Major league experienced priority 93 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: this year, but was very under the radar signing for 94 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: the Marlins this year. And yeah, we now about exactly 95 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: two months or so of data from him since he 96 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: got called up from Triple A. I think it goes 97 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: without saying that the shiny ra and run prevention probably 98 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: won't hold up. He is an extreme fly ball pitcher. 99 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: No matter what ballpark you're pitching in. If you're allowing 100 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: extreme fly balls and your swing and miss stuff is 101 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: kind of meh, then eventually the home runs are going 102 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: to catch up to you. To this point, he's allowed 103 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: just three of them in twenty four and a third endings, 104 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: and I imagine that rate would tick up a little 105 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: bit moving forward if things continue the way that they do. 106 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: Still a great acquisition for them to get with him, 107 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: someone who is potentially under control for four more years 108 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: beyond this year. If I have that right, it could 109 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: be five of the double check that afterwards and editing 110 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: whether it's might actually be five years of club control 111 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: if they choose to use it. And the Marlins, as 112 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: we've seen kind of year after year under this new regime, 113 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: probably like one of the most effective aspects of the 114 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: organization is finding gems on minor league free agent deals, 115 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: and Steven Okert is the latest one of those in 116 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: Sunday's game as usual with this Marlins team for most 117 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: of the year, but especially you know since like June 118 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: when they fell out of contention. The in game managerial 119 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: maneuvering is is just baffling. And I don't even want 120 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: to like single out Don Mattingly as making all those calls. 121 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: Some of them are just so confusing in the moment 122 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: that you wonder whether what kind of like marching orders 123 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: he's receiving. With the way that he handles this team, 124 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: you could cut him some slack on Sunday because, as 125 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: we found out postgame, Miguel Rojas removed surprisingly in the 126 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: top of the ninth ending that was due to left 127 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: trapezius soreness. And if you've been following Mickey Roe's career, 128 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: he has acquired so many of these nicks and cuts 129 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: and bruises, and he's played through so many of them. 130 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: We'll see exactly what his pain tolerance is with this 131 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: how much hopefully it subsides with the off day coming 132 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: up and with Jorge Alfaro, he didn't play in Sunday's 133 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: game at all, dealing with what appears to be somewhat 134 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: of a chronic right knee issue. A number of weeks. 135 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: Mattingly said that Alfaro has been managing the soreness, and 136 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: as it was pointing it brought to my attention, how 137 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: I guess either way you look at it, it's just 138 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: not good that he's been playing as often as he 139 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: has been if he's not fully healthy and if he's 140 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: not effective, which has been the bottom line, which is 141 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: why for over a month I've been suggesting that the 142 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: Marlins should kind of politely ease him out of their organization, 143 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: whether it's an actual DFA move or a phantom injury, 144 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: and the fact that he has somewhat of a legitimate 145 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: injury and they haven't put him on the eye and 146 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: they continue to use him as much as they have, 147 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: whether you're catching, which obviously puts strain on your knees, 148 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: if you're squatting for a couple hundred pitches a night, 149 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: or if you're running around in the outfields and at 150 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: a position where you have no prior experience until the 151 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: middle of the season. There's no charitable way to put it. 152 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: It's just nonsensical at this point that he's playing instead 153 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: of Lewin Diaz, instead of say, Nick Fortes. They have 154 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: intriguing guys at triple A that I've mentioned on multiple 155 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: platforms would make a whole lot of sense to fit 156 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: on this roster. At this moment, I've kind of gone 157 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: has the point of obsessing over those individual moves. 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The Marlins are getting a discount moving 177 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: forward on Brian Anderson if they choose to use it. 178 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: His season is over. Craigmish reports the Marlins have not confirmed, 179 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: but the diagnosis is the same as it was in 180 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: late May, a left shoulder subplexation that originally kept him 181 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: out for about two months. I think the consensus back 182 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: then was that the Marlins are being overly cautious with him. 183 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: That he could have come back sooner. As it turns out, 184 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: you know, he looked all right at times during this 185 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: most recent stint was over a month of the sample 186 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: size that we got with him playing mostly as a 187 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: regular third baseman, but not great, and we didn't even 188 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: see the particular play where he may have aggravated this again. 189 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: But either way, this is where we are, and the 190 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: question moving forward is what do you do with a 191 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: guy that you know. I've been so loud a proponent 192 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: of extending and locking him in as your third baseman 193 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: of the foreseeable future, but his production fell short of 194 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: everybody's expectations here in twenty twenty one. We'll have to 195 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: find out, hopefully soon about the treatment plan for this 196 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: most recent subplexation, whether it is just continued rest and 197 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: rehab or whether they have to do some sort of 198 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: surgical procedure. As you'll find out at the end of 199 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: the show. That does really affect the way that I 200 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: view him moving forward, because there is pretty significant difference 201 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: between how they address that injury, assuming that both routes 202 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: are on the table. His final stats for the twenty 203 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: twenty one season a two forty nine batting average, three 204 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: thirty seven on base three seventy eight slugging. That's a 205 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: league average hitter when you adjust for the season and 206 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: you just for a lone depot park one oh one 207 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: weighted runs graded plus, where league averages one hundred one 208 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: point three wins above replacement in sixty seven games. Even 209 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: though he was this is the worst hitting that he's 210 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: done in a semi full season since he's been a 211 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: big leaguer. You know, there was that little cup of 212 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: coffee he got in twenty seventeen, but from twenty eighteen, 213 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, all those years he was pretty 214 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: substantially above average for a hitter, and that was not 215 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: the case this year. His career stats overall now stand 216 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: at two sixty three three forty seven four to twenty 217 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: three slash line. That's a one to twelve WRC plus, 218 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: and according to both Baseball Reference and Fangrafts, he's been 219 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: a nine to win player in four hundred and thirty 220 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: three games, So that's like the equivalent of about three 221 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: mostly full seasons a three win player per year if 222 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: you assume relatively good health. Moving forward, he's an above 223 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: average player, and I feel like there's some people that 224 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: don't fully understand that they do still continue to underrate 225 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: him just because there are still some things we haven't 226 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: seen him do. It seems he has plateaued these last 227 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: few years instead of, you know, continuing on a linear 228 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: ascension to being, you know, an All Star candidate. He's 229 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: clearly a tier below the All Star players at his position, 230 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: but relative to his teammates, I mean, relative to the 231 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: alternatives that the Marlins have at third base for the 232 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: foreseeable future, I still hold him in an extremely high regard. 233 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: Just my perception of him right now is that he 234 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: is right there among the elite defensive third basement, even 235 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: if he's not there as an overall player. One reason 236 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: why he was still on a three to win pace 237 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: this year had not been for injuries, is that his 238 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: defense rated as well as ever. Oh and two aunt 239 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: Thomas and that is chopped to third Anderson from foul territory, 240 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: throws across his body and it's pick biogular. He makes 241 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: those bare handed plays running in on slow ground balls. 242 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: He has great reflexes, a great throwing arm that I 243 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: feel has gotten more accurate through the years. That's been 244 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: the one continuous improvement in his game is the accuracy 245 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: of his arm, because he's always had the velocity on 246 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: those throws, his ability to handle being used in unconventional shifts. 247 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: All the times that they've moved him to the right 248 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: side of the field and he's been participating double plays there, 249 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: and he's been making plays in much larger spaces than 250 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: you would have to with ordinarily as a guy that 251 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: has stationed near the third base bag. His ability to 252 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: adjust to that has really wowed me. As well. All 253 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: his athleticism that he may have had coming up in 254 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: the miners, I feel bad is still there. His sprint 255 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: speed right there around league average. She was feeling bases 256 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: a little bit more this year than he had been 257 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: in previous years as well. For really the last decade 258 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: or so, a lot of Marlin's hitters had been undone 259 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: by their struggles at Lone Depot Park, you know, previously 260 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: Marlins Park, in its dimensions and it's atmospheric conditions. More 261 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: than a few Blairs that were so promising coming up 262 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: just have not been able to hit for any power 263 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: at home, which is why we shouldn't take for granted 264 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: that BA is an exception to that he plays neutrally, 265 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: no matter where you put him, the production is almost 266 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: identical in his career at home versus on the road. 267 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: Curiosity with his offensive game that I still haven't cracked 268 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: yet is his platoon splitz. And this was the case 269 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: even entering this year, that they were almost identical hitting 270 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: against righties and also hitting against lefties. And then this 271 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: year again the sample was pretty small compared to his 272 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: previous seasons, but the splitz were insane in a reverse 273 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: situation where he was hitting very well against right handed 274 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: pitching and he was performing terribly against left handed pitching. 275 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: And I prefer that more than the other way around. 276 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: There's really no studies show that there's no disadvantage that 277 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: you have when you are facing opposite handed pitching. You 278 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: just see the ball better, and over a large enough sample, 279 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: your production should be fine relative to your talent level 280 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: when you are put in those favorable matchups. If someone 281 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: is struggling consistently against same handed pitching, I think that's 282 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: when you really need to have a long thought about 283 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: whether or not there an everyday player with BA. I 284 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: think you'd rather have it this way, that there's this 285 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: like really bizarre struggle when you're at a platoon advantage 286 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: because you feel like that will definitely even up as 287 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: things move forward. Although for his career it's been a 288 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: really strange situation and that he has performed significantly better 289 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: against righties than he does against lefties. That's something I'll 290 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: dive in a little bit more later. This isn't going 291 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: to be a total thorough breakdown of ba as we're 292 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: still awaiting clarity about how exactly he's going to recover 293 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: and what his precise timeline is to be back to 294 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: one hundred percent again. And the one critique that you 295 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: can't hide from is this terrible production against breaking balls 296 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: that will, for the most part include sliders and curve balls. 297 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: In my opinion, some cutters are basically breaking balls as 298 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: defined by Baseball Savants. In his stats, this is now 299 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: back to back years where he has been awful in 300 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: play appearances that end with breaking balls, whether it's you know, 301 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: him making poor contact on those pitches or in two 302 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: strike situations where he whiffs against breaking balls. A huge 303 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: problem each of the last two years, with very few 304 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: extra base hits at all against those pitches and whipping 305 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: at an extremely high rate. Is exit velocity on average 306 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: against those pitches much lower than other pitch types. We 307 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: haven't reached a point where opponents are like obsessing over them. 308 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: There still needs to be a balance between using their 309 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: other pitches to you know, actually throw pitches in the 310 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: zone and get ahead against him. I do wonder exactly 311 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: when that pendulum is going to swing a little bit 312 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: more dramatically, because this production is is right there among 313 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: the worst of regular players in baseball against those types 314 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: of pitches, and you can see it. You don't even 315 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: need to see the sets, it's just watching him. You 316 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: could see all the off balance swings that he takes 317 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: against them, ends how frustrated he gets. I guess one 318 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: thing that many of us probably like about him is 319 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: how passionate he is and how hard he is on himself, 320 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: that he is his own harshest critic and understanding when 321 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: he misses opportunities to contribute with the bat. He's very 322 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: visible about that type of stuff. And it's particular with 323 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: those breaking balls that there's a very limited ceiling on 324 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: who he can be offensively if he, yeah, just cannot 325 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: track those pitches and put the good part of the 326 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: bat on them. It's as simple as that. BA this year, 327 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: earning three point eight million dollars. This was his first 328 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: year of arbitration eligibility. I think even with the injuries, 329 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: he gave them a decent value in that regard. The 330 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: salary will go up next year. We'll see exactly what 331 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: this new collective bargaining agreement may change with player compensation. 332 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: But historically, what arbitration is that when you get on 333 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: the field, you're counting statf for the most part, in 334 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: some of your rate stats that effect you know, the 335 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: type of rays that you get heading into the following year. 336 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: I would think that he's in line for about four 337 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: and a half million dollars next year, maybe close to five, 338 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: but not more than that, where it will continue to 339 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: be a very good value as long as they perceive 340 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,479 Speaker 1: him as roughly an everyday player, which is what they 341 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: should be perceiving him as, regardless of how mildly disappointing 342 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: his twenty twenty one was. Some of the alternatives though, 343 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: if you want to be, if you want to dream, 344 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: if you want something to think about right now, if 345 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: you see the current product and you've reached this conclusion 346 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 1: that Isan Diez and Joe Panic probably aren't the answer, 347 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: at the hot corner in his absence on the market. 348 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: The name the biggest name out there that could play 349 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: third base and primarily has played third base in his 350 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: major league career would be Chris Bryant, mostly with the 351 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: Cubs and finishing out his walk here with the Giants 352 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: right now where they're using him almost entirely in the outfield. 353 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: He really does have amazing versatility, which probably Brian Anderson 354 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: himself could have if the Marlins needed him to do that. 355 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: With Briant, of course, the ceiling is a lot higher. 356 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: He's a former National League MVP. Even this year, which 357 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: is not his best year, you know, he's on pace 358 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: to get close to thirty home runs with the Cubs 359 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: and the Giants combined, and he is going to be 360 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: entering his age thirty season next year. That would be 361 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: the first one under his new contract. Of course, he 362 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: is represented by Scott Boris. He is because of his 363 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: really excellent track record outside of the twenty twenty Waco season. 364 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,959 Speaker 1: He's going to be in line for a nine figure, 365 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: one hundred million dollar plus contract. The Marlins are not 366 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: going to be anywhere near that ballpark and spending on 367 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: an individual player, so really the one guy in free 368 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: agency that I think makes quite a bit of sense. 369 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: If the Marlins are frustrated with Ba at third base 370 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: and or just want to switch things up, it would 371 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: be Eduardo Escobar. You remember, potentially I did have an 372 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: article about him in the middle of the season, before 373 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: the season went all the way down the drain. I said, 374 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: this is a versatile guy on a team going nowhere 375 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: in Arizona that can plug a lot of holes for you. 376 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: With how much the Marlins had questions about their infield depth. 377 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: He was a guy that can move around that has 378 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: been a great run producer both this year and going 379 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: back to the previous full season in twenty nineteen. He 380 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: is a few a little bit older than Brian's or BA. 381 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: He'd be in his age thirty three season that takes 382 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: into effect next year, but his numbers have been pretty good. 383 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,719 Speaker 1: As an all round player, he receives really high marks 384 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: for his clubhouse influence. The versatility is important. The on 385 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: base skills aren't great, I think, even less so than be. 386 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: He won't give you a ton in that department, but 387 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: the extra base hits will be there and and overall 388 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: the value as a player. It's roughly the same as 389 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: what BA has been providing in recent seasons himself. So 390 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: he's a guy that could be a successor, but he 391 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: could also be a complimentary in some way, depending on 392 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: how else the Marlins go about their offseason. Kyle Seeger 393 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: is having a big, power hitting year in the final 394 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: guaranteed year of his deal with the Mariners. He's somebody 395 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: that I've compared Brian Anderson to previously, with Seeger having 396 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: been this similar type of player, but you know, about 397 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: six or seven years ahead of him, he's a lot older. 398 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: He has a club option in his contract that I'm 399 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: not sure the Mariners will pick up because I think 400 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: it's at about fifteen million dollars. But they may renegotiate 401 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: that in some way because it's the organization he's always 402 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: been with. I'd say it's unlikely that that's going to 403 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: be a fit for him. The other name that I 404 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: wanted to bring up in free agency is Jonathan Veere, 405 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: who we are less than two years removed from the 406 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: Marlins trading to acquire. Remember, they got him coming off 407 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: is great all around season in Baltimore, and they acquired 408 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: him knowing he was arbitration eligible. They signed up to 409 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: pay him over eight million dollars in twenty twenty. As 410 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: it turns out, with the pandemic, you know, they saved 411 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: most of that money, and the money they did pay 412 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: did not go to good use because VR was very 413 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: mediocre and frustrating for them, and he turned out to 414 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: be even worse for the Blue Jays, which is why 415 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: his stock was really far down when he entered free 416 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: agency this past winter. The Mets picked him up really 417 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: at the very start of spring training, if not even 418 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: during spring training, and he didn't play a whole lot 419 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:45,239 Speaker 1: early on. But now he has steadily endeared himself to 420 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: that fan base and that team as a critical piece 421 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: because of his versatility and the primary position that he's 422 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,959 Speaker 1: been playing for the Mets in twenty twenty one. If 423 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: you have not noticed, he is their primary third baseman. 424 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: How about that? And he's putting up the numbers that 425 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: are very similar to what he did in twenty nineteen 426 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: when the Marlins were intrigued by him in the first place. 427 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: As I'm recording this, he had yet another home run 428 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: on Sunday. He's on pace to hit almost as many 429 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: home runs as he did in twenty nineteen. His slash 430 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: line is extremely similar, hitting about two seventy ohpsing over 431 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 1: eight hundred. He is back to being the guy for 432 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: the most part that they thought he was in twenty nineteen, 433 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: with the exception being his base running. I guess he's 434 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: reached that stage of his career where that stuff can 435 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: fall apart pretty suddenly. Your efficiency on the basis and 436 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: we know it's not just about his physicality, but his 437 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: decision making is what kind of drives you crazy as well. 438 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: So I would file that under relatively unlikely that the 439 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: Marlins are going to give him another shot, giving him 440 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: how that went the first time. It kind of depends 441 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: what his market is, though. I think if he ends 442 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: up being a player in that price range that he 443 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: was that originally, if he's like an eight million dollar 444 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: player for a two year deal or so, there's a 445 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: point where they would have to seriously consider it. He 446 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: has some of that same versatility as Escobar does, and 447 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: we know that as much as this team loves what 448 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: they have upd in Miguel Rojas and Jazz Chisholm, both 449 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: of those guys are susceptible to missing time with minor injuries, 450 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: even if it doesn't fit perfectly on paper, there would 451 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: be a lot of playing time going around, and that 452 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: playing time this year went into the dumpster where all 453 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: of their alternatives for those middle infield spots have totally flopped. 454 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: They need more depth. I'm not sure whether they would 455 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: want to spend at VRS level to get more of 456 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: a depth guy instead of an everyday guy. Still a 457 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: name that I want to throw out there, and I 458 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: want you to think about him, because we were pretty 459 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: excited about him at this time, like a year and 460 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: a half ago, and despite that down year that he 461 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: did have in twenty twenty. I don't know if someone 462 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: you should totally like move on from that. There's a 463 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: little more to a story than what you witnessed firsthand. 464 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: Trade candidates, the dream that you've all probably thought about 465 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: already to this point is Jose Ramirez from Cleveland's. He 466 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: has two more years on his contract, both of them 467 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: being team options. He is once again kind of on 468 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: the fringes of the MVP conversation. You know, he's never 469 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: won an American League MVP, but this is probably going 470 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: to be the fourth time that he finishes in the 471 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: top five in voting. Just an outstanding outstanding player he 472 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: does some of the things that we've already mentioned with 473 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: these previous guys. He hits for just about as much 474 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: power as Chris Bryant does at this point. He steals 475 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: even more bases than Jonathan Viar does, and if necessary, 476 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,719 Speaker 1: he has kind of the versatility that someone like Escobar 477 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: does at both third base and second base. He's right 478 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: around the same age that Chris Bryant is, just a 479 00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: little bit older than Brian Anderson. Cleveland's Loveland is at 480 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: a very strange spot in their trajectory where it's kind 481 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: of unclear what they're going to do from here. They've 482 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: stars at the top of their roster in Ramirez and 483 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: Shane Bieber, Shane Bieber coming off an injury, and the 484 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: team itself was never a real big playoff threat to 485 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: begin with. This year, You do wonder whether or not 486 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: he'll be available if the Marlins do dip into their 487 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: great farm system depth to put together a package for him. 488 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: That seems like someone they could attain. Another one that 489 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: I want to circle is Lewis Rise of the Twins. 490 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: The Twins themselves, even more so than in Cleveland, they 491 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: seem determined to be a competitive team next year. In 492 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two and arises a big part of what 493 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: they do right now. He very quietly is one of 494 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: the major league leaders in batting average dating back to 495 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: his debut in twenty nineteen. Let me see if I 496 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: could pull that up that entering this day he was 497 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: hitting for his career. His career batting average is three 498 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: point fifteen in that's almost eight hundred at bats, so 499 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: it's not quite as much playing time as Brian Anderson 500 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: has had, but he's a lot younger than BA. He 501 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: is going to be twenty five shortly after opening Day. 502 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: He's technically going to be twenty four at the start 503 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: of next season, not even arbitration eligible yet. He doesn't 504 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: it for power, but incredible contact skills, great discipline in general, 505 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: just as many walks as strikeouts for his major league career, 506 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: which has become almost like mythical for a player to 507 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: be able to do that against major league pitching over 508 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: an extended sample. He has a lot of versatility second base, 509 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: third base, and left field. He's done a little bit of, 510 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: especially this year, and I wonder if the Twins do 511 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: have enough position player depth and guys with impact that 512 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: they'd be willing to part with him for would take 513 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: a pretty decent haul of prospects, but nowhere as much 514 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: as you'd be giving up for someone like Jose Ramirez. So, 515 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: circling back to Brian Anderson, as we close this out, 516 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: I do have an article. I'll link to it in here, 517 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: not hiding from it. I did go on the record 518 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: as saying that reasonable extension for him entering this season 519 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: is brace yourself. I did say seven years sixty eight 520 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: million dollars would have been a reasonable price to sign 521 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: him to entering the twenty twenty one season, So that 522 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: would have been locking him up through his entire prime, 523 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: if not a little bit of his post prime through 524 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty seven season. It included an opt out 525 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: clause after the fifth year, where the five year deal 526 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: would have been like five years and low fifty ish 527 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: million dollars. I thought if the Marlins waited any longer, 528 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: that the price would only go up to extend him, 529 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: and as it turns out I was wrong about that. 530 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that the Marlins were right. I don't 531 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: think they profiled him as a guy that was super 532 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: vulner to shoulder injuries. I guess we'll never know the 533 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: full truth about that. As it turns out, the window 534 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: to negotiate a deal with him, I believe is now 535 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: improbably still open pretty wide for them, which it might 536 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: not have been if he had had a career year 537 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: this year, which would not have been out of the 538 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: realm of possibility. The price has clearly gone down to 539 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: this point. As enthusiastic as I am about Brian Anderson, 540 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,719 Speaker 1: even still, I have to admit that if they gave 541 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: him that money right now, it just would not be 542 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: reasonable coming off the kind of year that he did have. 543 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: So what are we looking at now? A couple of 544 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: players I was trying to look for, like comparable third 545 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: basement that signed extensions under these circumstances, you know, at 546 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: this stage of their career, with some injury concerns, and 547 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: I really didn't find any recent comps that made a 548 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: lot of sense. Instead of a few outfielders that came 549 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: up were Aaron Hicks, who was about to enter his 550 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: walk year with the Yankees, and they gave him seven years, 551 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: seventy million dollars. Hicks was coming off a better year 552 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: previously to that than Brian Anderson has ever had. But 553 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: and they were about the same age at that point, 554 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: but I think that's certainly on the high end at 555 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: this point for BA under the circumstances. Randall Gritchik is 556 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: another one, another outfielder with the Blue Jays who signed 557 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: a five year, fifty two million dollar deal, and he 558 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: was actually a little bit younger than BA at that 559 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: point when he was getting an average annual value a 560 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: little bit over ten million dollars, he had some of 561 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: that same mixed track record in terms of staying on 562 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: the field, although he wasn't coming off a significant injury. 563 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: The way that BA will be directly on the low 564 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: end of that is here's a name, Michael Brantley. He 565 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: was a little bit younger than BA is right now 566 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: when Cleveland gave him four years and twenty five million dollars, 567 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: which turned out to be a fabulous bargain for him 568 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 1: because he ended up breaking out into a fring MVP 569 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: candidate the very next year with Cleveland. Back then, I 570 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: think even with this injury, that BA has shown more 571 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: offensively to this point his career than Brantley did at 572 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: that point in his career, where you can assume that 573 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: the average annual value for Brantley that was only six 574 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: point two five million dollars. If you were going to 575 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: buy out any of Brian Anderson's free agent years at 576 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: this point, you'd have to go a little bit higher 577 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: than that. So this whole conversation, as I said, is 578 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: kind of contingent on exactly what is next in Ba's 579 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: recovery from the shoulder injury. As a reminder of this, 580 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: his left shoulder, his non throwing shoulder. For someone who 581 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: really stands out for the strength and accuracy of his arm, 582 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: that's pretty important that you know that his right throwing 583 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: arm is not going to be directly infected by this. 584 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: Even so, it's something that is still a big component 585 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: of his swing. To have strength from both sides of 586 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: your body and to have it all balanced, it needs 587 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: to be fully healed. The way that it heals is 588 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 1: going to be critical. If he is going to undergo 589 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: surgery this off season, I would not even really broach 590 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 1: the idea of an extension with him at that time. 591 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: There are so many variables when you're coming back from 592 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: surgery that you can't control for then, the track record 593 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: of some guys, even hitters, it's not only pictures, but 594 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: even with hitters coming back from shoulder surgery, it could 595 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: take a little while to be your old self. It 596 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: could take a portion of that upcoming season to get 597 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: back into a groove, or sometimes it could take even 598 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: the following year if he does have to undergo surgery. 599 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: I think the Marlins do have to view him as 600 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: a year by year guy where he really have to 601 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: prove himself in twenty twenty two, and they would even 602 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: if holding on to him instead of trading him, the 603 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: would to spend quite a bit on an insurance policy 604 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 1: somebody like a Jonathan vr for example, to come onto 605 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: their team and give them sufficient depth in case he 606 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: has some kind of setback going on there, or in 607 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: case he just does not perform at all the way 608 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: they do expect him to in a best case scenario 609 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: where they feel he can heal from this on his own. 610 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: With this number of months before now in spring training, 611 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: he can can strengthen that shoulder in a way that 612 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: they feel confident the issue won't recur again. I think 613 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: the price range I came up with would be a 614 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: four year deal in the thirty eight million dollar range. 615 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: So it's based loosely on the figures they came up 616 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: with before. In that original extension idea, except obviously you 617 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: cut off some of the length. Instead of buying out 618 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: what would have been what four free agent years my 619 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: previous idea, this would be only buying out two potential 620 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: free agent years for Ba, and it would include a 621 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: club option at the end. I think they do have 622 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: enough leverage in this situation where that security would be 623 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: valued a lot by him. Instead of paying what was 624 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: it before, like fourteen million dollars for his free agent years, 625 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 1: I think at this point you can lower that projection 626 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: to twelve point five million dollars. And so the breakdown 627 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: that I have is four years, thirty eight million, where 628 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: it's a four million dollar salary for next year, a 629 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: seven million dollar salary for twenty twenty three, twelve and 630 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: a half each for twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five, 631 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: and then the option for twenty twenty six would be 632 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: twelve and a half million, or a two million dollar 633 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: buyout of that option if he doesn't get back to 634 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: being the guy that he used to be. If you 635 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 1: pick up that club option, you ends up having Ba 636 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: with the Marlins all the way through his age thirty 637 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: three season. This is looking so far ahead, but that 638 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: would make him one of the longer ten yured players 639 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: ever in the history of the franchise. And I understand 640 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: why people aren't super enthused about this idea right now 641 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: now because he did not take that step forward that 642 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: we were hoping he did. He really did not flash 643 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: much of that either. You know, there weren't even like 644 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: individual stretches where you're saying, like, yes, this is a 645 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: new peak that he is trying to unlock, at least offensively, 646 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: he didn't reach that level. As much appreciation as I 647 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: do have for what he did with the glove, for 648 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: a guy that is going to be turning twenty nine 649 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: relatively early next season, it is certainly worth asking whether 650 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: we've already seen the best of him. That is a possibility. 651 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: And again, thankfully the Marlins and DA did not put 652 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: together the deal that I had originally thought of, you know, 653 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: at this time last offseason, because a sixty eight million 654 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 1: dollar deal for a guy now coming off this kind 655 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: of injury would certainly be a concern. But if you 656 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 1: essentially cut that guarantee in half, as I'm proposing right here, 657 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: I do think it like strikes that right balance between 658 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: a player that has a presage stantial track record as 659 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: an above average everyday player. I can't stress that enough. 660 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: That he is above average for a team in the 661 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: Marlins that at certain positions can't even get replacements level production. 662 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: He's a guy that is producing several more wins on 663 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: top of that when he is able to stay healthy, 664 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: and that is a big piece of this puzzle that 665 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: they're trying to put together to be a competitive team. 666 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 1: They're at a point where, as I mentioned, there are 667 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: a few really interesting options in both free agency and 668 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: trade that they could go after that. I'm not attached 669 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: to bea under all conditions. I think there is a 670 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: way for them to shake things up and still have 671 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: you feeling very confident heading into twenty twenty two. Unfortunately, 672 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: just with their farm system, there's not a guy that 673 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: sticks out internally that makes a lot of sense heading 674 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: into next year or really even the year after that. 675 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: I think you have to get to like twenty late 676 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three before you start dreaming of Jose Salas 677 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 1: really breaking through, or maybe Cody Moore set the most 678 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: recent draft pick, surging up and being a really reliable 679 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: on base guy who could potentially play that position as well. 680 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: Like they're gonna have some options in there. Maybe it's 681 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: even Khalil Watson, although he profiles more as a middle 682 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: infielder option there that there are ways that this could 683 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: come together internally, but not immediately. You know, if they 684 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,959 Speaker 1: do have some urgency to win next year, they better 685 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: hope that Ba can get through this without surgery or 686 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: they better be pretty aggressive this offseason and trying to 687 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: sure up that position. So let me hear what you 688 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: think about this most recent updated contract extension idea and 689 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: just about the bas situation in general. You know, where 690 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: do you think his career is going to go from here? 691 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: Do you think it's important for the Marlins to have 692 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: continuity at that position. Plenty of content coming up for 693 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,240 Speaker 1: you this upcoming week. In the meantime, enjoy your holiday 694 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: weekends and go fish.