WEBVTT - The Pleasure Principles of Love 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:07.480 What's up family, It's your girl to mek A D. 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:11.080 Mallory and it's your boy, my son General, and we 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:14.160 are your host of street politicians, the place with the 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:19.080 streets and six meet. What's going on? My son Lennon 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:22.840 the General. We all hear, what's going on? How you 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:26.639 feel it? All is well? All is well? You know, 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:30.880 we are turning this episode around quickly. We would have 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:35.839 taped last week, UM, but we actually were spending the 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:42.360 weekend with Sabrina Fulton UM and Tracy Martin and Javars Fulton, 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:47.319 the family of Trayvon Martin. It was ten years this 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:50.920 weekend since trayvonn was killed, you know, And I had 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:55.480 no idea that he was killed around his birthday. That 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:59.080 somehow escaped me for the last ten years. It just 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.760 occurred to me or I just figured that out this 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:07.840 weekend because it was a birthday celebration and also the 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:11.880 commemoration of ten years since since he was murdered. And 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.679 I was just like wow, I mean, I already I 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:19.360 knew from being with Sabrina and Tracy and Javaris for 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:22.640 so for these last ten years, and I'm you know, 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:24.760 as you know, we're very close to them, and you know, 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:28.080 I've worked with Sabrina for a long time. I knew 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:31.120 that there was pain. Of course there's pain. I've watched 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:36.200 them go through excruciating pain. But to know that it 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:41.320 was also Trayvon's birthday in the same time period just intensifies, 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:44.800 you know, even more the struggle that they've been through, 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.720 that they can't even celebrate his birthday without also having 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:51.400 to consider what happened to him, um, you know that night. 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:56.240 So it's just that made it even worse for me. Yeah, 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.320 that's you know, like you said, I didn't even realize that. 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.560 Actually I didn't realize that to just now, like you know, 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:06.040 I literally when you said that, I'm like, damn, it 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.000 is been you know I was. I was really just 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:11.040 focused on the celebration of his birthday and then realizing 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.800 it's been ten years since he's been going Oldso you know, 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:17.320 excuse me, that's like that has to be traumatic. You know. 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:21.280 I've seen as we were at the um the dinner, 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:25.160 you know, seeing them on stage, and Javarus got a 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:28.760 little choked up, you know, just so, and I watched 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.680 Sabrina just hold it together and at times I see 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.680 how you know, wiping back tears and holding back tears, 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:37.920 you know, and just to try to imagine that, you know, 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:42.800 having you know, having three sons and just just I 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:46.400 can't even imagine that feeling. So I just want to 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.440 send out my love as always to the you know, 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.400 the Martin and the and the Fulton family, you know, 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:54.320 and just tell him that we're here with you, man, 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:57.000 and ten years and they still standing. That was one 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:01.960 of the things they still standing still is handling herself 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:05.960 with such grace and honor, and she's still fighting for 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:10.440 justice for a son, and still giving refuge to other 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:14.120 mothers who've lost their children and giving them strength and 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:17.080 lending her strength. You know, I just I have to 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.160 commend to man I've just never seen. Also have to 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:23.200 come in you know, Tracy, just him being a father 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:27.160 and me being a father knowing how much it hurts is. 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:30.240 You know, he was telling a story you know, about 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:34.240 the you know, days before Trey Vonnes was born, and 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.720 it was kind of hilarious just looking at the different 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.880 personalities and him just giving that story and just knowing 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.320 that that was that was something for him, you know, 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:44.040 in the way that he grieves, in the way he 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:48.480 expresses itself. You know, it's like a proud father. I 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:55.320 just want to yeah, this is I'm proud of my kids, 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:59.000 and I'm always there for my kids, you know. And 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.960 he's one of those those black men that dispel that 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:05.800 matter their narratives. You know about the absentee father and 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.640 the single mother even though they're not together, but you 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:14.840 can tell that he was very present and prevalent. Oh yeah, yeah, 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.880 well you know, and I think I'm just gonna call 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.479 it out because um, I think it needs to be 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:27.839 said that excuse me. Over time. You know, mothers, we 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.719 always are going to celebrate mothers. And Sabrina works really 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:36.559 hard to keep Trayvon's name alive. Tracy has to work, 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.560 he has, you know, his job, he has his family, 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.000 he has things that he also has to do every 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:46.080 day as a man, right and so sometimes he's out 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:49.599 of sight because he's at work. He can't travel around 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:53.880 the country speaking different places and showing up for all 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:57.600 the mothers. Sabrina shows up for all the mothers all 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:00.279 the time. Anyone that every time I'm work in with 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.520 the family and I called Sabrina and asked her can 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.039 she come? She shows up all the time, and she 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.080 builds her own relationship with these mothers. We go to 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.680 her Circle of Mothers event every year where she hosts 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:15.640 up Now it's growing beyond a hundred mothers around the 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:19.880 country who've lost their children either to gun violence, senseless 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:25.200 senseless violence, and uh certainly police um trauma. And so 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:29.160 people are you know, attracted to Sabrina. I mean she 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:33.279 she Sabrina, Sabrina strong, you know she is and and 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.760 I guess we keep saying she's strong, and she probably 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.200 feels like she doesn't want to be strong all the time, 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.720 but she is. And she's really a star wars in 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:45.320 this movement. UM. And so what happens is that Tracy 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:50.160 is often sort of missing from the conversation where people 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:53.840 will talk about oh, you know, and and Sabrina this 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.520 and the mom and the mom. And I think that 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.719 Tracy speaking in the way that he did, even though 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.000 he told old the story that Sabrina probably kicked his 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:05.480 butt for later, but nonetheless the fact that he spoke 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.960 about how much he loved his son, how he kissed 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:13.000 his boy, he kisses his boys, and encouraging men to 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:16.200 be closer to their sons. Now that he's coming out 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:19.400 of his shell and he's speaking I think that's important 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.599 because people need to know that, while, like you said, 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.360 they may not have been in the same household, there 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:29.599 was a mother and father who deeply loved Trayvonne, and 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:33.359 in fact, Trey vonn was with his father at his 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:37.360 father's house at the time that he was murdered. Um 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.520 And so you know, I'm I'm committed to that. I 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:43.839 always have had great respect to Tracy. But I think 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:47.640 that when we talk about these families and these situations 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.440 that happened, we cannot forget the father's you know, you 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:54.800 think about uh Ahmad Augury. While yes, every day, of 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.839 course we're gonna celebrate and make sure that we uplift 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.599 Wanda Cooper because that is a mod's mom who was 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:06.279 there and shepherding him through life, but his father was 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.159 also in court. He was in court all the time. 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:11.200 You know, he was he and he wasn't a man 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:14.920 of many words, but he did at times say, you know, 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.800 I want justice for my son. And so you know, 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.760 we have to make sure that we we don't erase 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:25.440 the narrative or erase the fathers of these folks who 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:29.520 have been lost to violence from this situation. Now, there 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:33.040 are other stories where fathers weren't present, and then all 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:35.720 of a sudden, when there's either money on the table 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:39.000 and or fame, they show up. And I think the 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.120 truth just has to be told. Um. But but but 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:49.280 how we make sure that we focus our attention on um, 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:53.320 the truth of what is good rather than always looking 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:57.240 at what is negative. Um, I think it is really important. 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:59.960 So that's what for black his three months. I think 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:07.120 we need to highlight black fathers. High father we were matter, 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:12.320 Black father's, mack fathers mattered, daddish. Shout out to all 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.320 of the fathers that you know organizations and so many 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.920 organizations where they have you know, fathers that are doing 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.560 big things. Shout out to my brother Marcus, who is 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:25.679 part of an organization with fathers. Another black father, James Bond, 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:29.400 to our resident brand experts. Husband James Bond started his 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:33.360 organization Dadis, which focused on black fathers. So just salute 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.800 to all all of us black fathers out there that 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:41.960 represent properly. Yes, you know the dads. It's the dad's 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:45.120 for me, So let me see what else is going 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.280 on there. So much I wrote a bunch of notes. 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:52.080 I mean, I don't think we can um even go 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:56.360 forward in a show without talking about a mere lock. Um, 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.680 you know, this is a situation where, yet again, no 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:05.520 not warrants have are proven to be extremely dangerous, especially 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:13.920 when in the hands of and institution, because policing in 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:19.880 America is an institution, but it is an institution that 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:28.200 unfortunately access terrorists in our communities at times. Um, the 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:33.680 way in which no knock warrants are executed in the 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:41.640 black community is extremely dangerous. And the reason why we 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:45.440 want to see the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:51.760 past is because one of the pieces within the legislative 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:56.600 bill is to ban no knock warrants. So when people 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:01.920 argue with us, oh, you know, who cares about voting, 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:05.560 who cares about this administration? Who cares about this? That? 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:08.720 And the third the reason why we're going so hard 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:13.280 is because we know that there are pieces of legislation 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.280 out there that it passed. Not to say that it 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.920 will stop them from killing us, but it will at 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:22.680 least make it a crime. Right now, it's not even 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:27.040 a crime to kick down somebody's door in a state 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:31.800 where they can have a firearm, where they actually can 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:36.560 have where it is legal to get a firearm, that 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:40.640 actually it is legal in every state to have a firearm, 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.960 but there are certain states where the protection of your 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:49.080 home um right. But I think, I think, I think 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.560 a mere lock was licensed to carry. I believe he 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.720 was licensed to carry. Um if he's not. If he wasn't, 0:10:55.760 --> 0:11:00.760 I'm sure our our viewers and listeners will correct me. 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.760 But I believe I heard somewhere that he was licensed 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.200 to carry. So the reason why we want to get 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.680 rid of no knock warrants, such as what happened the 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:14.480 work that happened in Kentucky where our sister Coulture Iran 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:20.320 was instrumental in getting no knock warrants banned there. The 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:25.960 reason why that's important is because ultimately the ways in 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:29.960 which the laws currently exist, it doesn't make sense. It 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:34.240 doesn't mean for either side. It just doesn't benefit either. 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:36.760 If you if you if you are officer and you're 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.040 doing your job and you're going there with a known 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.400 knock warrant, you put yourself at risk because someone has 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.920 can legally protect themselves. If they don't know who you 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.920 are and you run into a home, somebody can legally 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:51.040 shoot you because they trying to protect themselves. It doesn't 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.240 make sense for the individual who has a gun in 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.240 their house and they can legally shoot. And then you 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.120 a police officer and you walk in and you see 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.800 the gun and thinking you have to protect yourself, you 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.800 can of them. So it's it pretty much what it 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:06.720 does end in bandon On like Lawrence pretty much protects 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:11.800 everybody and it makes a clear this decisive situation. If 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:15.120 I if I knock and say open the door, boom, 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:18.280 we are the police. We acknowledge you acknowledge that the 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.199 police are at the door. We've given you the amount 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.600 of time to let us in, and we have a 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:24.440 warrant for your arrest, and we've done all of that. 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.600 At that point when the firearm is shown, we've done 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.480 our due diligence. If you still decide that you're gonna 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.920 shoot at the police, no one nat the police. Then 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.800 it's on the opposite siety. The police shoot you after 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:37.920 you say listen, I got my hands in the air. 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:40.080 You just have a firearm, this and that. Then they 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:44.360 held out. It shows clear liability to who and what 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:48.679 the situation is. Anything else is too much confusion. It's messy. 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:53.520 It's messy. It's messy. You have people being shot too quick. 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:57.079 First of all, a mirror was the wrong person. So 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:01.480 that's a whole other set of circumstances that policing is 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:09.199 not one hundred percent bulletproof. It's not like sometimes you're 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:12.840 at the wrong address, sometimes you have the wrong information 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:17.600 that when when there is a margin of error, it 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:21.199 can't be coupled with a no knock warrant. It can't 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:24.000 be you have to get rid of no knock warrant. So, 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:28.480 as you said, it is very clear and decisive what happened, 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:33.480 why it happened, and who's responsible if someone dies, and 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:36.600 so this is common sense. We're not even talking about 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:40.760 some big theoretical bubble that needs to be broke down, 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:43.280 and it has to be This is very very clear, 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.960 and this is why we fight for things like the 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:49.560 George Floyd Justice and Police and Act, which is very 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:54.800 very bare minimal, very bare minimal legislation that can help 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:58.480 with this. And of course there are cities around the 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:02.000 country who have started to introduce no knock warrant bands, 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:05.400 but that does not work because what happens is that 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:09.520 we're depending on a local government to make those decisions 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.320 that will be based upon you know, when when when 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.120 one government is in they may stick with it. Then 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:18.240 a new government comes in in two years four years, 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.480 then they change the rules. That is not what we want. 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:25.640 We want federal legislation that across the board would protect 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.120 someone like a me a lot. I sat and listened 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:31.560 to his family speak today on CNN, they did an 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:37.360 interview these people. It's like it's like groundhog Day. It's 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:41.400 almost like I'm watching for the last almost thirty years 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:45.800 of my life, the same ship, the parents sitting down 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:50.120 telling their story. So, you know, God blessing and a 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:55.080 mere Lock, his family and his memory. Um, what I 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:59.600 will say, I bang with the people of Minneapolis because 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:04.280 they the street. Those people winter spring, summer, fall. They 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.240 are no joke in terms of how they approach getting 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:10.880 out there and making sure that their voices are heard. 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:14.040 Shout out to our sister Leslie Redman who is on 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:18.280 the ground, other sister Tikima. I mean they are out 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:22.320 there and again once again Minneapolis is showing up. They're 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.200 showing up for a mere Lock, and um, you know, 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:26.920 we just want to send them my love and make 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.840 sure they know that the people of all around the 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.120 country are with them and with the mere Locks family. 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:36.280 Definitely we're with them and you know, very very tragic 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.920 situation man. And again we we just want to make 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:44.120 legislation clear so that we can avoid these situations. You know, 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.560 it's it's it's it's so tiring that we keep losing 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.880 lives the same way. And you know, we have a 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:54.360 government that for some reason does not want to do 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.920 the right thing, to just save lives and just do 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:58.920 the right thing. Like what's so hard about doing the 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:02.640 right thing? They want power? And you see, when you 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:06.280 are that's what I mean by terrorism, right there are 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.240 people who will hear me say that word and they'll 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:11.440 be like, oh, you know, how could you say that 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.760 when when you know police office? I know police, So 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:16.200 they're not terrorists. We think about terrorists. We think about 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:21.960 people overseas or people domestic terrorists that come here. But terrorism, 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:25.000 when you just think about what is in that word, 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.080 has a lot to do with people who want power 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.240 and they're willing to take it by any means necessary. 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.000 They don't care who gets hurt in the process. And 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:38.480 that's what too many police departments, and also people who 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:42.240 work within police departments, that's what they fight for. They 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:47.080 fight for the right to basically dominate communities and not 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:50.800 have checks and balances that will also keep them accountable. 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:53.680 Uh and and and and and and to speak about that, 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:57.680 we can go right to the next situation. Tunisia Chappelle here, 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:01.600 this young woman is now, I'm gonna go with their theory. 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.120 I'm gonna go with their theory. And I'm saying this 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:08.680 as a as a what is the word that I'm 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:12.880 want to use? It is as it's basically, I'm just 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.159 making sure that people know that I don't know that 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.919 this theory is correct because Tinisia Chappelle never made it 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.880 to court to be tried for the crime that they 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:27.720 say she committed. Right she was detained in the city 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:31.639 jail waiting for her to go to court. So she 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.240 would have gone to court and been found guilty of something, 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.399 and then she would have been probably sent to a 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.560 state facility or whatever if she was found guilty, or 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:42.120 maybe released, and you know, and and have to deal 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:45.119 with her situation from in a different perspective. But the 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:49.320 story they tell is that she was a shoplift or 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:52.720 that she shoplifted this particular day, and that when she 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:57.160 left the store, a police officer was chasing her. So 0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:02.320 now as she's being chased, I think she went into 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:06.200 Indiana or something like that, and they say they apprehended 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:13.240 her and they arrested her. Okay, fine, right, So now 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:18.720 she's in jail. And again the terrorism is that even 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:22.560 if you are you are you could have killed somebody, 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:27.080 which is the worst thing you could do, take someone's life. Right, 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:31.000 But if you're in prison, there are still rules that 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:35.480 apply to a person needing medical attention, to how the 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.760 jail should be kept clean, the food being you know, 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:42.840 humane conditions. That is what it is supposed to be. 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:47.280 If you watch the footage of what happened to Tunisia Chappelle, 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:52.160 there is no way on God's green earth that they 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:56.359 can sit back and say they found no wrongdoing and 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:59.480 that there would be no charges brought against anybody in 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.320 That's that reason. Now, that's just from the first footage 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.560 that everyone has seen, and we should make sure that 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.360 we play that today. That's the first set of footage. 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:12.679 But now we move on to the new footage that 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:16.800 has come out that shows her for hours and hours 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:22.040 and hours vomiting, begging, begging for help, laying on the 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:27.840 ground naked the inmates. The inmates were calling saying she 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:34.800 needs help, some of them huhms. Prison, the no, the 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:40.000 incarcerated individuals, the other incarcerated individuals, You are right, let 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:43.879 me correct that they were calling saying she needs help. Now, 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.400 there was some of them that you could hear that 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:50.040 they were down with with the police. Right in terms 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:51.719 of the way that they were speaking of her, they 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:55.000 were mocking her. She went through the most horrible situation 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:58.919 and over forty eight hours, this woman died. Again. People 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:04.000 who want their power and dominion over another individual and 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:07.440 they and they actually they get off on watching us die. 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:12.359 And it's so sad, it's and it's a two pronged situation, 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:16.800 right is that? And then there's this belief that because 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:20.439 you're incarcerated, that you're no longer human, right that whatever 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:23.880 comes with incarceration, if you die in jail, you shouldn't 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:27.280 be attended to, you shouldn't get fooled, you should be 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:31.320 you should be given the worst possible everything, no matter 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:34.040 what it is. And this is an ideology that people 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:36.239 have that you know, when you go to jail, if 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:40.000 you're incarcerated, that you pretty much have lost your humanity, 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:43.120 you know, and and and it's so crazy. People see 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:47.320 you as not even a person, as something you know, 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:50.439 and that's what happens, especially in those facilities, you know, 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:54.280 those those holding facilities, these are holding facilities. Like you said, 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:56.960 she she didn't even get her day at court for 0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:59.399 something for you know, a petty crime that she was 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:02.840 being like she she was she was treated like someone 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.080 who had did the most the most worst things in 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:07.719 the world and she wasn't even attended to. And then 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:11.240 there are other you know, prisoners and there who who 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:14.760 have been dealing with this Stockholm syndrome and and they've 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:18.000 embraced this lifestyle. You know, there's certain people who were like, 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:20.679 well you and jail what you think, you know, and 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.120 it's like, no, in jail, I think that I should 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:25.240 be able to get medical attention. I think I should 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:27.840 eat food that's not spoiling that I think I should 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:30.720 have officers told to me like a human being and 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:35.719 not like trash. And absolutely I'm with you. Um. You know, 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:39.280 there's new footage of Tunisia coming out, and in fact, 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:42.480 her family is going to be on our show, um 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:45.320 and we'll be you know, talking to them about her. 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:48.720 She has a daughter, her sisters fighting for her. They're 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:50.959 so tired, they burnt out because it's been going on 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:54.200 for a while now, and they're just starting to get 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:58.199 the type of attention that they deserve. So that's another issue. UM. 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:00.800 And then you know, one of things that I think 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:03.480 is sort of like the last thing that I have 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:11.520 on my agenda of news to share today is um 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:13.360 and maybe I'll make it my thought of the day. 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:15.399 I had a different thought of the day today, and 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:17.359 I think we got to talk about it later. And 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:19.800 the thought of the day that I originally wanted to 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:24.119 talk about is asking the question when it's okay to 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:29.720 keep your children away from their parents, mother or father, right. 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:33.600 I really wanted to get into that in light of 0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:36.400 what's been happening with him and Kanye right, which I'm 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:38.800 not sure that people are trying to keep him from 0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:42.680 seeing the children, or maybe they are. I don't know 0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:45.800 the facts, but it just brings up in me this 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:48.800 idea that at some point people may feel like they're 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:54.359 child's parents is dealing with a mental health issue and 0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:56.760 therefore they feel like they shouldn't have the child around 0:22:56.760 --> 0:22:58.720 the parents. But then there are people who say, hey, 0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:02.159 you already knew that, And it's always I remember my 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:04.760 mother used to say, it doesn't matter if your daddy's 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:08.080 on drugs. He could be on the street corner, doesn't matter. 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.040 I'm gonna always make sure, even if it's just a 0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:14.520 few minutes, you see your parents, you know, because that's 0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:20.000 just that that parent needs to or that that child 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:25.760 needs to see and understand the truth about their parents, 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:29.400 and they need to have the influence and the love 0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:32.800 that it might only be for a second, right, especially 0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:36.600 if there's some positivity there. But I'm gonna leave that 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:40.560 for another later in the conversation. On another time. My 0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:50.240 thought of the day today, how do we help people 0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:54.840 understand how serious things are with what is happening across 0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:59.080 this country, because I feel like folks ain't really paying attention. 0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:04.720 It's like our movement, you know, there's always laws, right, 0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:08.520 movements are not gonna be all the same way all 0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:11.240 the time where every day people are in the street, 0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:15.399 and that's not the way movements work. They have laws, 0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:18.320 they have moments that go up and down, and we're 0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:21.280 in not so much a law, but we are in 0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:24.560 a moment where I think folks are so frustrated that 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.320 they've checked out. And then there's another set of individuals 0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:29.199 that as long as they got Trump out of office, 0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:33.120 they've kind of moved on, and so I saw that 0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:39.359 Alabana in Alabama. Just yesterday, the Supreme Court has allowed 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:44.440 Alabama to go forward with redrawing their congressional masks, which 0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:49.960 will ultimately be a voter suppression method against black folks 0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:53.160