WEBVTT - MVP: Chad Greenway Discusses Front Office Changes, What Comes Next  |  Episode 128

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota Vikings. You know, accountability would be the number one

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<v Speaker 1>word I would kind of define with that, and if

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<v Speaker 1>he made a mistake, he would own it. He was

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<v Speaker 1>always the most prepared you could tell you about the

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<v Speaker 1>work end the time in as a head go Jen

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<v Speaker 1>is you know really the dcat for me? Feelman, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been I was with my entire career and is a

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<v Speaker 1>massively important figure in my life. I immediately think about

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<v Speaker 1>those guys and just reached out them via text and

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<v Speaker 1>just thank them for everything. Called him, I loved him

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<v Speaker 1>and wished him nothing but the best. You're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the Minnesota Vikings Podcast and this is episode one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty eight. I'm Tanta Meverett inside TCO Studios or

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<v Speaker 1>radio room. I've got Gabe Henderson and producer Jay Nelson

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<v Speaker 1>alongside me today and we have a lot to discuss.

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<v Speaker 1>After an eventful week at Twin Cities ORTHOPEDICX Performance Center,

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<v Speaker 1>plus we have a very special guest on the podcast today,

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<v Speaker 1>former Vikings linebacker Chad Greenway. But before we get to

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<v Speaker 1>our interview with Chad, the Vikings finished the season eight

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<v Speaker 1>and nine with no postseason birth. As a result, ownership

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<v Speaker 1>made the tough decision on Monday to part ways with

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<v Speaker 1>both general manager Rick Spielman and head coach Mike Zimmer.

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings owner Mark Wealth spoke on Monday, said letting them

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<v Speaker 1>go was hard after Spielman had been with the organization

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<v Speaker 1>for sixteen years and Zimmer for eight, but that is

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<v Speaker 1>what had to be done, according to Wealth, to take

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<v Speaker 1>this franchise to the next level. So, Gabe, Jay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to give you the floor right here, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>start with you, Gabe in your eyes, why do you

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<v Speaker 1>think ownership made this decision? First and foremost, it's always

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<v Speaker 1>funny when people say Gabe and Jay, because I have

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<v Speaker 1>one older brother and his name is Jay. Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea. So when I say Jay, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, it's talking about my brothers. Calling in later,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't know that's I'm going You've been Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a big brother tv in. But um to your

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<v Speaker 1>point of ownership making this decision. Um, I do believe

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<v Speaker 1>it was a tough decision, but I remember to talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Mark Wilf earlier this week, and the organization just

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<v Speaker 1>needed to go in a new way. And I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>say overstaying you're welcome is the case. But having a

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<v Speaker 1>job or head coaching job in the NFL for eight years, um,

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<v Speaker 1>things can get old, and things can go one way

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<v Speaker 1>and then go the other way. You kind of it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like leaving milk out out for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>You can, but at the same time, sometimes that milk

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<v Speaker 1>will spoil. The expiration date the expiration date, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>the expert date. Expiration date is longer on certain certain cartons.

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<v Speaker 1>In the other end, Uh, this was a long expiration

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<v Speaker 1>date for Mike Zimmer. He served his time. He put

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of milk in the bowls of cereal and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people ate that bowl and was able

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<v Speaker 1>to get full in the process, but still the milk

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<v Speaker 1>went sour after a while, and that to mention that

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Zimmer didn't feed a lot of people. But still

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<v Speaker 1>in the same breath, it was one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>where you say, okay, Mike, like we appreciate what you did.

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<v Speaker 1>He laid a foundation and there were expilment on the

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<v Speaker 1>other end. He's been in part of this process since

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and six, and that for me personally, was

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest surprise. I think a lot of people were

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<v Speaker 1>surprised by that move, but I think Mark Wolfe he

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<v Speaker 1>looks at it as Okay, well, we're not fully rebuild him,

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<v Speaker 1>but we want to get the right leaders here in

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<v Speaker 1>place to continue to build this, build the foundation moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>I did love when he talked about the rebuild and

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<v Speaker 1>how they envisioned this team is still a contender. You

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<v Speaker 1>think of the fourteen one score games this season and

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<v Speaker 1>you think maybe the decisions would be differently if the

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<v Speaker 1>game outcomes had just swung a few more in the

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<v Speaker 1>right direction. But you know, it was interesting with it

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<v Speaker 1>being my first season here and kind of looking into

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<v Speaker 1>the career of Mike Zimmer, I didn't really realize heading

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<v Speaker 1>into this job that he really, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>include this past season, had only been to the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>three of eight seasons, and I think when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the actual numbers itself, that to me speaks volumes

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<v Speaker 1>because I think as an organization and ownership, you want

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<v Speaker 1>better results than that. As a fan base. As an organization,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know anyone working within this organization, the goal

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<v Speaker 1>every season should be to be in postseason contention. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think the fact that the last four seasons you've

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<v Speaker 1>only been in the playoffs at once, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>we made the run the way we did and lost

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<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco in the divisional round, I think, ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>that's on my end what I think it comes down

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<v Speaker 1>to why ownership made this decision. Coaches come in, there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's a pop of excitement, there's a pop of promise

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<v Speaker 1>and hope for what their intentions are and what people

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<v Speaker 1>feel this should be. And I think the first half

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<v Speaker 1>of Zimmer's career here there was a ton of promise

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<v Speaker 1>and hope. There was playoff appearances, kind of the ups

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<v Speaker 1>and downs, winning division crowns at Green Bay, things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>rallying together and feeling like there's a clear vision of

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<v Speaker 1>what we're going to be for the future. I think

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<v Speaker 1>given the way that the last half of his career

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<v Speaker 1>as a head coach here has gone, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>ownership kind of potentially looked at this and just said, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're going to do one, let's just get a

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<v Speaker 1>fresh start across the board, because Rick has had his

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<v Speaker 1>chance over the last sixteen years to help mold this

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<v Speaker 1>football team where they needed to be. If the head

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<v Speaker 1>coach was working with the players and talent that have

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<v Speaker 1>been here, if they looked at it and said, if

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get one brand new perspective, then let's do

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<v Speaker 1>it both positions in order to see what we can

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<v Speaker 1>get for the future. Because they looked at the results

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<v Speaker 1>and said, it's just not good enough at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Like anywhere, whenever you have success early, it's hard for

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<v Speaker 1>fans to wane back from that. So the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>we made the playoffs in twenty fifteen, granted we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>win that playoff game, the bar was already set high

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<v Speaker 1>of like, okay, well this guy he missed the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>his first season, and Mike zimmer okay, twenty fifteen, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we actually can do it. We didn't make it in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, but twenty seventeen we go on that long run.

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<v Speaker 1>So the expectation started to rise. And that's not to

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<v Speaker 1>say that Mike zimmerdon then live up to the expectations,

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<v Speaker 1>but once you have two seasons in a role where

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of don't live up to those expectations. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that plays into the fact of, all right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we may have to look in a different direction. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you are the third winning as coach of franchise history,

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<v Speaker 1>but we got to continue to have that sustained success.

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<v Speaker 1>And we appreciate you getting this there because we've tasted

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<v Speaker 1>the success, so now we want more of it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think at this point, if you look at both

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<v Speaker 1>Zimmer and Spielman, if you would have asked them at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the season, what's your goals and what

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<v Speaker 1>are your expectations, it'd be to win and be in

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs and be a postseason contender. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>as as frustrating as this season was with the roller

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<v Speaker 1>coaster with a lack of results the way you wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>in the fact that you ended at eight to nine,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that must have been part of the decision,

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<v Speaker 1>just to say, you know, things have not worked out

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<v Speaker 1>the way we've expected and what ownership's expectations are being

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<v Speaker 1>championship contenders. They've said that from the moment that they

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<v Speaker 1>walked in the door. Yeah, And I think that along

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<v Speaker 1>with the fact that neither you know, the benchmarks were

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<v Speaker 1>not hit for the season. That had to be part

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<v Speaker 1>of the reason they were willing to part with people

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<v Speaker 1>that have contributed this organization in many ways besides football

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<v Speaker 1>for the last you know, almost over a decade at

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<v Speaker 1>this point with Rick, and you think about what was

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<v Speaker 1>on the line in the last three games. Yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>had the opportunity to maybe save a couple of jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>to maybe make it to the postseason and not make

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<v Speaker 1>this season an eight and nine no playoff team. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they had it was right there for the taking, and

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<v Speaker 1>you saw the type of team efforts that came off.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know, these guys play really hard, and they

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<v Speaker 1>try hard, and they and they try to put themselves

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<v Speaker 1>in those positions. But those last two games were just

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<v Speaker 1>so tough, or three games rather, were just so tough

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<v Speaker 1>to just sit back and know what was out there

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<v Speaker 1>for the taking, and it wasn't taken advantage of. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little bit of bad luck too, especially

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<v Speaker 1>at that Green Bay Packers game and then a few

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<v Speaker 1>games earlier in the year where we had a few

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<v Speaker 1>players down. But every team in the league's dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>the same stuff. Legua Zeolo with the same stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know ownership they talked about what Mark Wolfe talked

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<v Speaker 1>about that earlier this week. Is they have provided the

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<v Speaker 1>ample resources for these head coaches and for Rick Spilming,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to continue to do so. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think it showed this year with all these guys that

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<v Speaker 1>signed one year contracts from P two to well just

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<v Speaker 1>in general, all the free agents that we brought in.

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<v Speaker 1>So I do believe they're going to be very gracious

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<v Speaker 1>when providing resources, in which he said earlier this week,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Wolfe, So it's just a fact of when we

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<v Speaker 1>provide these resources, we need you guys to hold them

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<v Speaker 1>to your end of the deal and provide us wins

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<v Speaker 1>if you go through and look at what the expectations are.

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<v Speaker 1>I think from ownership is the fact that we should

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<v Speaker 1>be a successful team and we should be able to

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<v Speaker 1>compete six of our nine losses or the playoff teams.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think if you expect to be in that

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<v Speaker 1>echelon of teams that can compete that way, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>have that kind of a record when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>playing at that caliber. I just it's extremely difficult, given

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<v Speaker 1>relationships that my self and other people in this organization

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<v Speaker 1>have had with both of these people over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>to see them go. But if ownership is as strong

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<v Speaker 1>as they are to say these are expectations, then I

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<v Speaker 1>think fans should be somewhat excited given what the goals are,

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<v Speaker 1>that they're willing to make a drastic change like this

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<v Speaker 1>in order to try to achieve their goals. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the last thing it was that stood out to

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<v Speaker 1>me about Mark Wolfe's interview is that he said they're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for strong leaders, communicatings or communicators and collaborators who

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<v Speaker 1>are aligned with building a positive, winning culture. So you

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<v Speaker 1>look at that and you say, Okay, well, these guys

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<v Speaker 1>have a vision of who they want and I think

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<v Speaker 1>they'll take as much time as necessary to do so. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was a three words that we heard

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<v Speaker 1>not only from Mark wolf but in the exit interviews

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<v Speaker 1>from Adam Feeling, Eric Kendricks, Brian O'Neill, everyone talking about

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<v Speaker 1>needing more collaborative environment, a leader who's strong in their convictions,

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<v Speaker 1>and in a lot of ways, it sounded like the

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<v Speaker 1>players also as upset as they are about not having

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<v Speaker 1>the consistency and the continuity of the head coach and

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<v Speaker 1>GM they sounded like, you know, this is part of

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<v Speaker 1>the league. They're willing to deal with this, and they

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<v Speaker 1>hope that strong leadership, collaboration and communicators exactly, I think

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<v Speaker 1>is what they're hoping and looking for. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>point this out as one final point as to why

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of think things developed the way they did

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<v Speaker 1>this week is going back to when Mike Zimmer was hired.

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<v Speaker 1>He was hired to bring in to revamp this defense,

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<v Speaker 1>to make it that strong Vikings defense that you know

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<v Speaker 1>the franchise has been known for for so long, and

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<v Speaker 1>you hit twenty seventeen, where their first in total defense

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<v Speaker 1>and their tops in the league in several categories. You

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<v Speaker 1>think of twenty twenty one, it is statistically the worst

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<v Speaker 1>season that Mike Zimmer's defense has had while in Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>and the decline of the defense doesn't really help the

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<v Speaker 1>offense as well. I mean, Kirk Cousins commit comes in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen after the run, they want him continue that.

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<v Speaker 1>But while they had that strong defense, they thought they

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<v Speaker 1>needed a quarterbacks. They bring the quarterback in and the

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<v Speaker 1>defense is declined since then. So it's kind of been

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<v Speaker 1>just a recipe for where we are right now, eight

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<v Speaker 1>nine and no playoffs. It's a bad mix in just

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<v Speaker 1>that the offensive side when you would have your three

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<v Speaker 1>and outs, puts the defense in a bad position to

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<v Speaker 1>run at that point, and vice versa. If offensively things

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<v Speaker 1>aren't necessarily clicking the way they need to and you

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<v Speaker 1>need the defense just to make a stop. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how many games, at the end of a game or

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of a half, we're looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>defense just to make a stop and to stop them

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<v Speaker 1>from putting points on the board. And given all the

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<v Speaker 1>one score games that we lost, I just think it

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<v Speaker 1>was a bad formula all season long, between the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>drop and the offense unable to sustain drives in the

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<v Speaker 1>way that they needed. I just think it was not

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<v Speaker 1>beneficial on either sides for both of those groups. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you hit it right on that ghost

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<v Speaker 1>hand in hand, like, yeah, you look at some of

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<v Speaker 1>the defense the stats and say, well, they didn't stop

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<v Speaker 1>the run or they didn't do this. Well, you have

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<v Speaker 1>two drives where a team has seventy rushing yards and

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<v Speaker 1>they ended up with one hundred and twenty. Maybe those

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<v Speaker 1>two drives where they give up seventy rushing yards the

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<v Speaker 1>offense went three and out. So there's so many things

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<v Speaker 1>as far as momentum that we weren't able to take

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of this year. Only two games stand out to

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<v Speaker 1>me this year that we were actually able to control

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<v Speaker 1>the momentum the first half of the Steller's game and

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<v Speaker 1>then the second half of this Bears game this past week.

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<v Speaker 1>And you look at that and say, well, if you

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<v Speaker 1>put those two games together, you got a complete season,

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<v Speaker 1>but you got a Super Bowl winners the case. But

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<v Speaker 1>still like that's that's one of those things where you

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<v Speaker 1>just say, well, we want a coach or a GM

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<v Speaker 1>or somebody that that's in leadership to come in and

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<v Speaker 1>it's an expert in helping sustain some of that momentum.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what in my opinion, I feel like that's when

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<v Speaker 1>coaching comes in. When you make a big play and

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<v Speaker 1>then you strategize something to continue to build on that momentum.

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<v Speaker 1>And we weren't able to do that. Yeah, we did

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of lash blaze. You look at the

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<v Speaker 1>sack totals or our third down totals on defense say like,

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<v Speaker 1>man like, we were really good, but still those momentum

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<v Speaker 1>driven moments where you look at the coaches and say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where you guys stepped in maybe add some

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<v Speaker 1>extra boost here or blitz Here's that's where you say. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I see what Mark Wolf and those guys were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously Mark Will felt as strongly enough to your point,

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<v Speaker 1>Gabe to go ahead and make the call on moving

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<v Speaker 1>forward without Rick Spielman and Mike Zimmer and not many

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<v Speaker 1>people have the unique perspective in this situation, as our

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<v Speaker 1>podcast guests this week, former Vikings linebacker Chad Greenway, who

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<v Speaker 1>spent his entire eleven year career here in Minnesota. The

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings drafted him in the first round of the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen draft when Spielman was the newly promoted director of

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<v Speaker 1>player Personnel. Plus he spent his final three seasons as

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<v Speaker 1>a Viking with head coach Mike Zimmer. So we are

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<v Speaker 1>so excited to hear from him. Here is Chad Greenway.

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings fans, you know him and you love him. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings legendary linebacker Chad Greenway. Chad, happy birthday is in order.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for being here on your special day. Yeah, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for having me. I figured, I figured, why not if

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else going on? The kids are at school, it's

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<v Speaker 1>sunny out, it's almost forty degrees, you might as well

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<v Speaker 1>jump on the podcast. So it is great up vodka

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<v Speaker 1>in the giftback tonight. Oh, it's always in the bag. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I as I coach you guys off air, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coaching my girls team tonight, my daughter's team, and

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<v Speaker 1>then after that I have a board meeting after host.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's virtual. So what happens off screen in a

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<v Speaker 1>virtual meeting happens off screen, and there may be some

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<v Speaker 1>cock jilks. I'm a fan. I've got my great duck

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on my bar cart right now. So looks rather

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<v Speaker 1>nice there, very nice. Well, it's funny though. You mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>you're mentioning sunny and forty and every I tweeted out

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<v Speaker 1>the other day about it's hitting thirty and people are saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>so warm today. I'm like, this is this isn't warm?

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<v Speaker 1>I have to know, are you a short sky when

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<v Speaker 1>it hits forty? Oh honey, you're so new to this?

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<v Speaker 1>When when when it goes negative ten on? Yeah, with

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<v Speaker 1>the wind at negative twenty five and you just get

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<v Speaker 1>that thirty at thirty feels like you're feeling today. Thirty

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<v Speaker 1>feels like fifty, right, thirty feels like fifty feels amazing

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<v Speaker 1>outside you could throw a little hoodie on. You might

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<v Speaker 1>have a light jacket on top of that. But for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, you are living the dream. You get

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<v Speaker 1>to actually enjoy the outdoors instead of the negative ten

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't that I am, um. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in South Dakota. I'm very used to the cold,

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<v Speaker 1>extreme cold, extreme wind. So you know, this is just

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<v Speaker 1>part of it. Um. You know, I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>I live here. I love we love it here. We

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<v Speaker 1>love the school, we loves raising the families. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>many There's so much more to life than the weather, um,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's all about finding ways to enjoy it and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and live your best life in it. And

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<v Speaker 1>about ten degrees chat, I think you'll start to see

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<v Speaker 1>people popping the tops down on their convertibles and driving

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<v Speaker 1>their Harley's out. Yeah, there's no doubt about it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know if it was thirty seven or seventy

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<v Speaker 1>three today. And then I looked at the car washers

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<v Speaker 1>on my drive to work and I was like, why

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<v Speaker 1>is every single car washing Minnesota flour right now? That's

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<v Speaker 1>a great as a great indication of where people the

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<v Speaker 1>car wash line the cars are coming out of the garage,

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<v Speaker 1>out of hibernation in order to try to try to

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<v Speaker 1>wake up this gracious you guys are killing me. I

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<v Speaker 1>will never be a shorts person in forty degrees, just never,

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<v Speaker 1>never make shorts and tall Thanksgiving and then whenever it's

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<v Speaker 1>reasonable to come out of hibernation. So I'll think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not too far off. I'll think about it. We'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>I do like the sun being out today, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice to see the sun out after such a

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<v Speaker 1>tumultuous week over here in the Minnesota Vikings. You know, Chad,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you know the news by now that Rick

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<v Speaker 1>Spielman and Mike Zimmer have been relieved of their duties

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<v Speaker 1>here as head coach and GM. And I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you have long relationships with Spielman as well as Zimmer

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<v Speaker 1>playing under them. What was your initial reaction of the

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<v Speaker 1>news when you heard about their departures. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the initial news is I guess I'm nut shocked. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>you've been the NFL for a long time and around

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<v Speaker 1>the business, and yeah that you're ever shocked by decision

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<v Speaker 1>from and the organization. You start to do the mass

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<v Speaker 1>and you realize that, you know, Zam has been here

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<v Speaker 1>for eight and Spielman's been here for what's sixteen yea,

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<v Speaker 1>And you realize that in respect, the will giving them

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<v Speaker 1>enough time to really implement their plan, get the right

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<v Speaker 1>people around them, the personnel, the coaching staff, everything in

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<v Speaker 1>place to be successful, and if the will feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to move on as owners, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, okay, we gave this the best shot. You

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<v Speaker 1>kind of respect that decision. It wasn't like a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like the Dolphins, where it's a two or three

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<v Speaker 1>year dealing done and you don't get really a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to really see what that coaches all about him the

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<v Speaker 1>long term. So I respect that, but the initial reactions

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<v Speaker 1>obviously just you know, it sucks. I mean, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>other way around it. If we love you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>loved him, love I love him. When he came in.

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<v Speaker 1>I played for him for three years. M Spielman. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been I was with my entire career and is essentially

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<v Speaker 1>a massively important figure in my life, just because he

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<v Speaker 1>has been so good to my family and my career

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<v Speaker 1>and everything that we stand for, and he's been a

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<v Speaker 1>massive part of that. So I immediately think about those

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<v Speaker 1>guys and just reached out to be a text and

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<v Speaker 1>just thank them for everything, told him I loved him

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<v Speaker 1>and wish him nothing but the best. And um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the next part you feel is is all the all

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<v Speaker 1>the waves from that massive splash continue to affect others.

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<v Speaker 1>Right There's there's assistant coaches and gas and guys that

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<v Speaker 1>don't have massive buyouts that now have to find new

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<v Speaker 1>jobs and new teams and new opportunities and you have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in some cases wives and girlfriends and kids

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<v Speaker 1>and school decisions and all sorts of just stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 1>just life stuff to hit you right away, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And and it's tough, and um, you know, they know

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<v Speaker 1>what they're getting into. And a lot of people will

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<v Speaker 1>will claim that everybody's making all this money that it

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<v Speaker 1>becomes easier, Um, but not everybody is. You know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a massive, massive thing and somebody's life to

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<v Speaker 1>lose a job like this, especially in such a public arena. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So I just wish those guys nothing but the best.

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<v Speaker 1>They're incredible people, incredible coaches and leaders, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't you don't stand as long as they have

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL without being that. So I wish them

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but the best. Yeah, that's one thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>would say a lot of fans forget, or a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people involved with this outside of the building forget,

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<v Speaker 1>is that these these guys are Humanum where there's the coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>g am front office, all these guys, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>a families and and more importantly, this is what they

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<v Speaker 1>love to do. This is how they make a living

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<v Speaker 1>for their family also. So just with that said, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember talking to to Zimmer earlier before the season started

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<v Speaker 1>and I asked him. I was like, well, I told him.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Zim, I heard you got a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit softer ever since you got two grandkids. And the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing you said it was like yeah, I am,

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<v Speaker 1>but still not to my players. So as a former

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<v Speaker 1>Zimmer player, how would you describe Do you have a

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<v Speaker 1>story about you guys this time together or maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>Rick Spielman. Yeah, I describe him as accountable, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Accountability would be the number one word I would kind

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<v Speaker 1>of define with that, and he led that way with

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<v Speaker 1>his with his own approach. I mean, if he made

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<v Speaker 1>a mistake, he would own it, you know, if he

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<v Speaker 1>if he made a bad call, he would own it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he would own it in front of everybody. He

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<v Speaker 1>was always the most prepared. You could tell he put

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<v Speaker 1>the work in the time in US as a head

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<v Speaker 1>coach and as a you know, really is a DC

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<v Speaker 1>for me. You know, I came in, I had played,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd played for eight years of the organization under one defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Zimmer comes in and kind of implement this wholesale change

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<v Speaker 1>and mentality and approach, and I kind of had to

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<v Speaker 1>reinvent myself in year nine into a different type of

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<v Speaker 1>player and really take new coaching and news type of coaching.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Adam Adam became my linebacker coach who was

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<v Speaker 1>a few years younger than me. Um So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really had to navigate some things when they came in.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was interesting because at that same time, I

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<v Speaker 1>got asked take a pay cut that same year, and

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<v Speaker 1>um so it was a lot going on in my head,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as a leader and a team captain and

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<v Speaker 1>all these things. And the new coach comes in and

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<v Speaker 1>the GM aster a pay cut, you have all these

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<v Speaker 1>kind of negatives, and it remotivated me and re engaged

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<v Speaker 1>me into my career and I decided to stay and

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<v Speaker 1>finish a Viking, and that all worked out, and I

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<v Speaker 1>learned to respect Zim's approach, and you know, to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where I think his approach not only can can

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<v Speaker 1>win in this league, but is the necessary way to

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<v Speaker 1>handle things and people and these kids come out of

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<v Speaker 1>college now, is on true accountability and um and he

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<v Speaker 1>did in a couple of ways. I mean the one

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<v Speaker 1>that the best example is my first training camp UM

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<v Speaker 1>with him. We're on a man Cato and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you weren't familiar, you guys probably be familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>me and kay to layout, but just you know, three

0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:06.119
<v Speaker 1>grass fields right side by side by side. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>stadium kind of on the end. So he's standing by

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<v Speaker 1>the stadium and I won the far grass field. You're

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<v Speaker 1>talking like two and a half three fields away, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going through defensive walkthrough. Is the morning walked through

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<v Speaker 1>like ten am. And we're out there going through the

0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:20.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff we had installed the night before in that morning,

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<v Speaker 1>and all we hear is just them like with this

0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:26.840
<v Speaker 1>little little limp walking across the field, you know, and

0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:28.760
<v Speaker 1>just screaming like nobody knew he was. It was too

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<v Speaker 1>far away even understand. And like we we go through

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<v Speaker 1>a couple more plays, and he finally gets over there

0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:36.160
<v Speaker 1>and he set up he wanted to play, set up

0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:38.119
<v Speaker 1>that he was yelling at and I was playing. I

0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:40.360
<v Speaker 1>was playing. I was on the field that time. And

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out he was screaming at me. And what

0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:46.200
<v Speaker 1>he laid out was like my alignment was like six

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<v Speaker 1>inches off, like too far to the inside. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thirty years old, I've in my ninth year. You know,

0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:55.080
<v Speaker 1>at that point, I have like nine hundred career tackles

0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:57.639
<v Speaker 1>or more like, you know, I knew what I was doing,

0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:00.680
<v Speaker 1>but he had to make a point, and it was right.

0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:02.439
<v Speaker 1>He was right. But the point is that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be exact in this business, and six inches matters,

0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:09.280
<v Speaker 1>and um and your alignment matters, and all these details matter,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to study and know and understand. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't know, if if you don't know, everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>positioned right knowing your own, but also and everybody else's

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't hold each other accountable in that way.

0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:21.280
<v Speaker 1>And then you go on to watch tape as a

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<v Speaker 1>team or a defensive unit, and you would be held

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<v Speaker 1>accountable on the video, on the video, and and I

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<v Speaker 1>just all those things lead together and his points were

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<v Speaker 1>all active because this business no different than this team

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<v Speaker 1>this year or every every year, is everything's so tight

0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:37.639
<v Speaker 1>and the margin of error is so slim that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be exact and you have to be perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're never gonna be perfect. You have to try.

0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:43.280
<v Speaker 1>But he also just you know, he led that way

0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:46.480
<v Speaker 1>by with his with how he handled his own business too.

0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:49.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he'd be so hard on himself for missing

0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:52.680
<v Speaker 1>something or not seeing something, and um, you know, in

0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:55.199
<v Speaker 1>my estimation, he always put it on himself when he

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<v Speaker 1>needed to. Chad. You mentioned that Zimmer's approach is a

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<v Speaker 1>winnable approach. So what do you think happened the last

0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:07.560
<v Speaker 1>couple of seasons where it just felt like the team

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:12.239
<v Speaker 1>wasn't achieving to what their expectations were. I'm not there right,

0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:14.000
<v Speaker 1>having been around the team in two years because of

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:17.240
<v Speaker 1>COVID and other reasons, and you don't really know and

0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:19.639
<v Speaker 1>understand less you're there right. So it's hard for us

0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:21.719
<v Speaker 1>to really say, even for you guys in the building,

0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:24.119
<v Speaker 1>to really to really pinpoint it right. You can you

0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 1>can point to personnel or guys not making plays, or

0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:29.760
<v Speaker 1>coaches not getting guys ready, or coaches having wrong and

0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:32.679
<v Speaker 1>there's all sorts of things you can kind of point to. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I always thought that Zim's approached on being defensive first

0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:39.320
<v Speaker 1>and calling the plays as a head coach maybe held back,

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:42.400
<v Speaker 1>held himself back from being the type of head coach

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 1>he could have been rather than D you know, just

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 1>like a DC mentality. Um. But the point is that

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:49.000
<v Speaker 1>that was his baby, right, and that's what he wanted.

0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 1>That's where he really really cared about. So and he's

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<v Speaker 1>an excellent DC. But I think it's always a combination

0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:56.000
<v Speaker 1>of things in the NFL. You can never just point

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:58.879
<v Speaker 1>to one thing. Players have to play. We know that

0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:02.480
<v Speaker 1>defense can win, right and but but it comes down

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:04.600
<v Speaker 1>to every NFL season comes down to games that you

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>win or lose by five points or less. And we've

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:10.280
<v Speaker 1>just been losing too many games at the end right opportunities,

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:12.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, kirks and the offense drives you down, and

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 1>you get chance for a kick, you miss kirk and

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 1>offense drives you down. You fumble the ball, you loose,

0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:19.119
<v Speaker 1>you lose the ball, you loose. You know, there's so

0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:21.680
<v Speaker 1>many things. You know, you score too early, defense can't hold,

0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 1>they score, you loose. There's just so many ways to

0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:28.080
<v Speaker 1>lose in this business. It's insane and all these players

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:30.160
<v Speaker 1>you're playing are so good, so it's hard to pinpoint

0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:33.040
<v Speaker 1>you answer your question directly, but it's always a combo

0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:35.440
<v Speaker 1>of things. And I think that the games you point

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<v Speaker 1>to that are an indictment on the coaching staff would

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:39.600
<v Speaker 1>be an away game at Detroit that you lose that

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:43.120
<v Speaker 1>you have to win, not just not necessarily being prepared.

0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:46.080
<v Speaker 1>And I always thought this year, and not to be negative,

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:47.959
<v Speaker 1>but I felt like this year we played more not

0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:51.320
<v Speaker 1>to lose than to win, and that approach just comes

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:53.680
<v Speaker 1>back to by you in this league. Yeah, you didn't

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>make a good point though, with defenses being so reactionary,

0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.399
<v Speaker 1>how you hear Eric Kendricks just just pretty much anybody

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:01.119
<v Speaker 1>in the defense is side of the ball saying the

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:03.800
<v Speaker 1>defense is always a half a step behind because you're

0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 1>always reacting to what offense is doing. They kind of

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:08.479
<v Speaker 1>got the heads the heads up, or they end they

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 1>know what they're going to do before you know what

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 1>they're going to do. So you kind of look at

0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 1>that in the same approach when it comes to this

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:17.439
<v Speaker 1>new GM and coaching higher like the ownership knows what

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:20.119
<v Speaker 1>they're going to do. We have to react to that.

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:22.359
<v Speaker 1>So when you were a player and you had to

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<v Speaker 1>react to I guess what ownership's thought process on bringing

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:27.920
<v Speaker 1>in a new coach. What was the thought process for you?

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 1>And what should the thought process? What do you think

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.639
<v Speaker 1>the thought process is for some of these players that

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 1>are about to go through it. You look at it

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:37.159
<v Speaker 1>both decisions. Right. With Spielman coming in, it was interesting

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:39.480
<v Speaker 1>because in OH six I actually got drafted by fran

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Foley who was hired. He brought it to Steve Hutchinston

0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 1>van Leeber had my draft class, and then he literally

0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 1>gets let go, like the Tuesday after the draft. They

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:50.959
<v Speaker 1>found the discrepancy in his resume, they let him go.

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Rip comes in under the kind of the triangle of

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:57.399
<v Speaker 1>power and becomes sort of the pseudogm and decision makers.

0:25:57.400 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 1>So you have that whole play right where now you

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:01.640
<v Speaker 1>have guys with a new GM coming in that maybe

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:03.959
<v Speaker 1>that GM just surely doesn't like doesn't like him as

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the players and like his style is like his play now,

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:08.720
<v Speaker 1>so you you're maybe future as a Viking could be

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:11.400
<v Speaker 1>up in up up in the air end, you don't know.

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 1>And then you have the coaching piece, right, So now

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>those two need to align. And obviously you're hiring GM first,

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:18.359
<v Speaker 1>and then the GM is gonna be processed part of

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the process behind the coach. So if you're a game

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:22.879
<v Speaker 1>and style of play isn't getting them align with the

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 1>new staff right, it's it's probably a real problem for you.

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 1>And there's probably guys in the roster right now they're thinking,

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I cannot wait to get a new coach in here

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:31.880
<v Speaker 1>because maybe it'll maybe it'll amplify my ability to play

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 1>under this new new team. So my thought was always this,

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:36.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like I got to bring my best every day,

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>no matter what. It's the league, I mean, every practice game,

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:42.399
<v Speaker 1>somebody can take your somebody can take your snaps, somebodyn

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:44.879
<v Speaker 1>take your job, and there try to pay somebody to

0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>do it cheaper, right, And you have to have that

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:49.399
<v Speaker 1>approach every day. So my biggest thing was always be

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:52.199
<v Speaker 1>around the building. You know, off seasons, I rarely left

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>for a couple of vacations here or there. I was

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:56.600
<v Speaker 1>always around. I always worked out there. I wanted people

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 1>to see me. I wanted to I wanted to have

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 1>conversations with the coach. I want to have conversation with

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>my position coaching GM, we get to know them, understand them.

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:06.719
<v Speaker 1>And in my contract negotiations with Rick and Rob, it

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>was it was about what else do I bring to

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:11.119
<v Speaker 1>this team besides just my ability to play. You have

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>to be good football players the NFL, but what else

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:16.880
<v Speaker 1>do you bring? Community support, leadership, captain mentality. I mean

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:18.720
<v Speaker 1>you can talk to you can talk to the team,

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:20.879
<v Speaker 1>you can talk to the coaches, you can you can

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.120
<v Speaker 1>go to events and be in the community. And it's

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>just there's so many ways to lead and be an

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>example in pro football than just being a good football player.

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 1>So um, I think if take all those things into

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 1>account when you look at who's coming in, and I

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:34.320
<v Speaker 1>would research as a player, like what are these gms

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and coaches standford, Where have they been where they had

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 1>success and try to mirror, you know, what they're asking

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:42.480
<v Speaker 1>me to do. Interesting as you say for a player

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:45.239
<v Speaker 1>to be available, because it's usually coaches saying that they

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>should be available. So that's that's interesting. You say that

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 1>when a new coach comes more players should try to

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.679
<v Speaker 1>make themselves more available. Oh my god, I thought it

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:55.640
<v Speaker 1>was just obvious. I mean it, you know, I blew

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>my l out No. Six, So I lost my first year,

0:27:58.000 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>So coming back in No. Seven, like I knew, as

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to be a starter. I want to make

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>sure everybody understood that I was in it to win

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 1>it and being a part of this organization. And and

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 1>you do that by saying, yeah, I'm gonna go. I'm

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:10.679
<v Speaker 1>gonna go to you know, Saint John's my favorite vacation

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:13.239
<v Speaker 1>spot for two weeks after the season, and but then

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be back and I'm gonna I'm gonna work

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>out anyways. I might as well workout a facility where

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 1>people care about my success, right and no, my body

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>needs and no knows my ailments and my my issues.

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, the weather is not as great as southern California.

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:30.199
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, it's about building your career

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:32.679
<v Speaker 1>and building it the right way and you know, elongating

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:34.159
<v Speaker 1>your career in a lot of cases as well. So

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 1>I found this to be very valuable. No, that's my experience.

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 1>That's great insight. I think that's that's much appreciated. It

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 1>really didn't think about that before, but it's a great point. Um.

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I know that there are six head coaching jobs open chat.

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 1>There's Vikings, Bears, Jaguars, Broncos, Giants, and Dolphins. Then you

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 1>have three general manager positions Vikings, Bears, and Giants. So

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>where do you think this Vikings vacancy ranks in the league?

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Is far? Are as most appealing job out there? Yeah,

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I've been thinking about that questions I've been asked to

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times already. I think it's a hard

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 1>question to answer because you don't know what they're looking for.

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Right is does that you know, look at Anthony Barr

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 1>for example? Right, is Anthony Barr gonna be a part

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 1>of our team moving forward? I assure as that cope is.

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 1>But if he's not, with the salary catpechers and others,

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>things like the defense may look a lot different with

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the different personnel that's not going to be available to it.

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>So I think you look at the Viking's job and say, wow,

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 1>we got a lot of ability here. Right. You look

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 1>at our roster, a lot of big names that have

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of ability. There's some years left in those legs. Right,

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 1>you got candidates, you got Bar, you got Harry m

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 1>you have a lot of great defensers, you have some

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 1>young defenders. Dancer played really well at the end of

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>the year as a young corner. So you have some

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>really nice pieces. Um, you know, obviously a lot of

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of holes. You got to you gotta be

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 1>able to rush the pastor a heck of a lot

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:49.719
<v Speaker 1>better than we have been u the last few seasons.

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 1>So you look at the defense and say, okay, there's

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>some there's some pieces there. And then offensively, obviously have

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>one of the best young receivers in the league in

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the history of the league. Yet you have Steeling who's aging,

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.719
<v Speaker 1>but good Thorne had a nice season. O line has

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of nice pieces, but has them building

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>to do. Get one of the best running backs of

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.719
<v Speaker 1>football and a quarterback that can do that can make

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>every throw and it's smart. So offensively, I like the pieces.

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a job that people are gonna want

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 1>and are gonna want to seek out. The question you

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 1>have to ask yourself is because we are one of

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 1>the teams that fired both, will we get access to

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>hire the other coaches? Because how many coaches are gonna

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>be gone while wilst are doing it, while we are

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 1>still doing a GM search. I think it's an interesting,

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, just a timing topic really to me, Like

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I love Flores, I think what he's done in Miami

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>and his background is obvious that he's one of the

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 1>if not the best candidates out there. But are you

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna get him? Is he gonna be around in ten

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>days when we finally get the GM hired and get

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>around to do a coaching search. Is that GM get

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>out aligned with the same mentality the ownership has on

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>how we move forward? Right? So it's just a lot

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>of questions to be answers. So I think it's the

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 1>roster that that looks really, really good, and I think

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>it's the job that people would love. You just name

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>a few people, a few things that can possibly affect

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 1>this GM and coaching hire. But as far as just personally,

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>what type of leadership I'm not even saying names, but

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>just leadership in general. Do you hope to get out

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 1>of this new hire? I am after kind of seeing

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 1>how Zim went about his business and again loving Zim

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>went through Leslie Fraser's staff, went through Children's staff. What

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I think too many coaches get cut up and is

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 1>what got them there? Right? If I'm the OC at

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 1>named the place and I got hired as the head

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 1>coach because I was a good OC, does not mean

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>that you need to be the OC. Just because you're

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 1>an elite DC does not meeting be coming. You need

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>to be the head coach. You need to be able

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 1>to handle all things head coach related and you need

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 1>to be get focused on that. And I love more

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>of the CEO approach from a head coach and trusting

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 1>who I hire as the O C and d C.

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>And you see a lot of these guys that get

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:57.959
<v Speaker 1>hired in this right or wrong. You know, I'm sure

0:31:58.000 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>there's some sort of historical view on that. I'm a

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>complete idiot and my point is dumb, But the reality

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>is that I just think from from a from a

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>team from a team standpoint, the team is better when

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>you have a CEO at the top beating both sides,

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>and you have an OC and DC that trust, are

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 1>trust in their positions that they can make the Blake

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 1>calls in game, and the head coach is the head coach. UM.

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 1>So I think from a leadership style standpoint, that's what

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I would like to see UM and see where that

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 1>takes us. It sounds like you're you're lobbying for a

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>guy like Mike Tomlin. He was here your first year,

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 1>right and then he was a defensive coordinator. Then I

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>guess he's been a distills. I had a coach since them, right, Yeah.

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 1>So so Tomlin, you know, he comes from a Tampa

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>two system, comes up here for a year. You know,

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 1>you sit in the interview room with Tomlin, You're like,

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 1>you're going to hire it. Like I've never in any

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 1>fat of the world met a guy that can motivate

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>somebody better than Mike Tomlin. Just incredible. So I was

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>with him in Fred Puggish's basement. Fred Puckis is my

0:32:57.000 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 1>linebacker coach um the day he flew out to go

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 1>interview for that Steeler's job, and I can promise you

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 1>he had no idea that he was gonna get hires.

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 1>He did not think in a million years to Sunday

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>that he wasn't get that job. And sure enough he's

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 1>got it and still has it and deserves it. Is

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:14.719
<v Speaker 1>one of the best coaches and probably history. But you

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>think about it, he comes from a system that gave

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 1>the opportunities in Tampa too. He comes up to Minnesota

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 1>to intlement that system. He goes to Pittsburgh and doesn't

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 1>run that system. He goes there and is just the

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>head coach and so you think about that. So he

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>got it. He only got his opportunity because of the

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 1>system that kind of gave it to him, right, Derek

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Brooks the whole Tampa defense, and then and then he

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 1>gets the opportunity to be a head coach and says, well,

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>the DC there, I can't what was the DC's name.

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>He's there forever Lebo Lebo was there, and he's like, well,

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not smarter than this guy. Like, let let him

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 1>do his thing. I'll be the head coach. And a

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 1>way they go and they win for years. So I

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 1>do like that mentality. So what does a new head

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>coaching hire? What kind of challenges do they find? And

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>not only connecting with the younger players on a roster,

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>but also veteran players that I've around for a while

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 1>that kind of know what the mo is to work

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. Yeah, And I think it's it's actually

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>probably even a hard question for me to answer, because

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, the kids come out of college or just

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.879
<v Speaker 1>they're different mentality than when I when I came out

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:12.399
<v Speaker 1>with and and the guys that were on the team

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 1>when I came in were even older school mentality than

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I had. Right, So it's it's you know, I come

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:18.319
<v Speaker 1>from the world of you know, as a farm kids

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 1>like you get you show up, you bust your ass

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 1>as hard as you can, and you you grind and

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 1>you know the best put your best portport every day.

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:26.720
<v Speaker 1>And and I don't know that that's necessarily the mentality

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 1>or maybe it's just overhyped that the kids are changing

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 1>coming out of college. But one thing I do is,

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:35.879
<v Speaker 1>if I get hired as the head coach, right, I

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>need to hire people around me that can handle a

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of those a lot of those situations, because they're

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:42.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna be more hands on than I am. Right, So

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 1>the people around me have to be able to handle

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.839
<v Speaker 1>that situation. Um. But at the same time, you have

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 1>to be able to you know, a lot of a

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:53.839
<v Speaker 1>lot of times gets gets knocked for having too much

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 1>of an old school mentality, right, And that may be

0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>that may or may not be true. Um, But I

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>look at what's what Afference has done down in Iowa City,

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and he's had to change with the times in a

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of cases right where he's had to become progressive

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:08.720
<v Speaker 1>in his mindset because he knows that if he stays

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>grounded in nineteen eighty eight, like he's going to get

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>taken out of a job. He's not. He's not progressive enough.

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 1>So I do think you need to find even if

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a coach that's older and has an older school mentality,

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you have to have somebody who's willing to budge off

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 1>of that and be a little bit more flexible and

0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:25.839
<v Speaker 1>learn to understand how kids are just different now than

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:28.800
<v Speaker 1>you work thirty years ago. So my takeaway from that is,

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 1>are you going to put your hat in the ring

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:32.880
<v Speaker 1>on this one? According to Twitter, you know you're a

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 1>very popular choice. Well obvious would be the best choice

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>to read a job obviously, I don't know. I don't

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 1>think the girls team will let you will let you

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 1>take this one. I am a pretty darn successful girls

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 1>basketball coach and I actually do love it. It's funny

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 1>because I've honestly never even had I've never dreamt of

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>coaching football. I've never thought about coaching football. I was

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:58.720
<v Speaker 1>a basketball player first that was just really good at football.

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 1>So now I get to do what I love and

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 1>get to coach my kids, and I do love it.

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I retired when Madden was nine. Um,

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 1>she's fourteen now and coming in JR own as a

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>as a basketball player herself, and you know the timing

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 1>of my career, and what I appreciate the NFL for

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.719
<v Speaker 1>more than anything is allowing me to spend time with

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:17.880
<v Speaker 1>my kids and raising my kids when it matters the most.

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 1>And so I'm enjoying the heck out of that. You're

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 1>striking me as a guy that runs one three one

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 1>press and your daughter's youth leak that calls one through

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 1>one on any half court zone, because that means you

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 1>can't coach half That means you can't coach man to

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:33.439
<v Speaker 1>man defense. So I love it. I love to press

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 1>and run up and down. Um. I think basketball is

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 1>more fun when when it's played at the high tempo.

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 1>So we we will mix it an honest in full

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:42.880
<v Speaker 1>court zone and full court man to man. I got

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.759
<v Speaker 1>a couple of zone man combos. Um. You know you

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>come from a background like mine with football and you

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>can get real creative and zone defense. Um. But I

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 1>love the excellosa hoops. Um. And I think what I

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>love more than anything is and especially I've never coached boys,

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:01.840
<v Speaker 1>but what I love about girls is they really care

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>about getting better and they care about the coaching and

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:06.879
<v Speaker 1>they really want to take it to heart and get

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and improve. And I've seen I've coached two separate groups

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:12.359
<v Speaker 1>now my eighth grade daughter's group up until last year

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 1>and then now my fifth grade daughter's group, and it's

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 1>just so fun to give a kid a task and

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 1>improve on something, to see him see him take that

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 1>and get success, and then it gained confidence and independence

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 1>from that. It's just it's just awesome. So I'm having

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:27.839
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun doing that, that's for sure. And uh,

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, mostly just also a taxi cab for the

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 1>kids driving around from event to event and so but

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:34.879
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of fun. Yeah, No, she's and she's

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>very good. You guys, if you ever, you know, want

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 1>to catch a game, I was sure it would be

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 1>a good one to catch because Madden is a very

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:44.359
<v Speaker 1>talented athlete, that's for sure. I've seen some highlights on

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Twitter before I think, yes, yes, yeah, she's good. She

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 1>plays varsity in Minnesota, which is allowed. You can middle

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 1>seventies kids can play varsity hoops there, says their second

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 1>year of varsity. You've got a nice team at Province Academy.

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:58.440
<v Speaker 1>We're having a lot of fun chasing her around. So

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 1>m Yeah, it's fun because all my girls are crazy

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:07.799
<v Speaker 1>into sports, um, soccer, hoops, track, and so they keep

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:10.279
<v Speaker 1>us busy, very very busy. Well, thank you so much

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 1>for taking the time, especially on your birthday, Chad, for

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 1>joining us here on the Minnesota Vikings podcast. Chad Greenway,

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 1>thank you once more. Happy birthday, Happy birthday. Thanks Jed.

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Like I said in the lead in before the interview,

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:26.919
<v Speaker 1>such a unique perspective for someone who has been with

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Rick Spielman and understands Mike Zimmer more than many who can,

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:33.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, be a guest on this podcast. Really, Yeah,

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 1>he knows this organization almost better than anybody who's been

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 1>through the highs of the highs and the lows of

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the lows and understanding both of those guys, and Rick

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Spielman and Mike Zimmer what they meant to this franchise

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and organization. He's a guy that can talk about that,

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 1>and it was interesting to hear what he had to

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:52.800
<v Speaker 1>say about what he hopes in a new coach or

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:56.799
<v Speaker 1>a new GM and how that correlates to what Mike

0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Tomlin is We're not sure what ownerships. That's a great story.

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 1>That really was a lot of insight and I wasn't

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 1>expecting that one at all. I just knew Mike Tomlin

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:07.399
<v Speaker 1>was here his first year, but I didn't know like

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:11.320
<v Speaker 1>the in his basement, So that that that's that's interesting

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:13.759
<v Speaker 1>because Mike Tomlin, he only had one year as a

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:16.239
<v Speaker 1>coordinator previous then he was I think a dbast coach

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:17.960
<v Speaker 1>in Tampa Bay won a Super Bowl there like you,

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:20.800
<v Speaker 1>he said, with Derek Brooks in that Tampa two defense,

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 1>and that kind of established him when he got here

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 1>and then boom, he got that job. And clearly it

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 1>is because he just knows how to ace interviews and motivator. Motivator.

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Good thing we beat the Pitsburg Stellers this year. We

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:33.879
<v Speaker 1>can hepfily talk about Mike Tomlin right now, but more

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 1>importantly chat but he's in the playoffs, So I'm sorry.

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Chad Greenway, great guy like him. All of us are

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 1>just waiting to see what this next move is going

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 1>to be. We'll continue to put out more episodes this

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:49.839
<v Speaker 1>offseason and be sure to be on the lookout this

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:53.840
<v Speaker 1>week for more Vikings Entertainment Network content, whether it's online

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 1>or on the app. Just because the team is not

0:39:56.800 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 1>in season right now doesn't mean we will not have

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 1>more kind for you interviews insights into what is going

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 1>on behind the scenes here at Twin Cities Orthopedics Performance

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.759
<v Speaker 1>Center during this time of change. Gabe, I know you

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 1>have an exciting interview coming out soon. Yeah. I've had

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to sit down with Vikings owner team president

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Mark Wolfen talk about just some of those decisions and

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>just his thought process on what the future could look like.

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I tried to curtail it more so to like what

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:28.839
<v Speaker 1>the media we're not talking about. Yea, the Vikings can

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 1>have exclusive and that will be coming out most likely

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 1>today or tomorrow, so be on the lookout for that.

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>That will be a really good interview. He was very

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>energetic and very positive as far as the steps moving

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 1>forward post Mike Zimmer and Rick Spielman, Well, that's what

0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 1>we like to hear. Plus, we'll have expert interviews with

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 1>ESPN's Courtney Cronin and Kevin Seaffert, as well as NFL

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Networks Tom Pellasero coming out within the week. So be

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 1>sure to tune in YouTube, Vikings dot com or the

0:40:56.520 --> 0:41:00.279
<v Speaker 1>app to get the latest Vikings Entertainment Network content. Thank

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:02.759
<v Speaker 1>you so much for listening to the podcast. Right now.

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 1>We will hopefully have another episode for you very very soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Alongside producer Jay Nelson and Gabe Henderson, I'm Tatum Everett

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<v Speaker 1>and for now, skul Vikings