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Speaker 1: You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. This episode, we have Congressman Eli Crane

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Speaker 1: with this now. He represents the second Congressional district out

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Speaker 1: in Arizona. He's also a former Navy seal. Honored to

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Speaker 1: speak me to Congressman, I was there when you were

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Speaker 1: just before being a congress but I knew you were

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Speaker 1: gonna win. So I feel good about that prediction. Now,

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Speaker 1: thanks for being with.

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Speaker 2: Us, Thanks Buck, and thanks for having me on while

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Speaker 2: I was campaigning. Man, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely well. And I had had a feeling about

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Speaker 1: that one. It was one of the few, one of

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Speaker 1: the few elections in twenty twenty two that I was

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Speaker 1: invested in, and that weren't the way I wanted to

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Speaker 1: So it's like you de said this in Florida. You know,

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Speaker 1: there were some others that Anna Paulina she did well.

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Speaker 1: I know you know her, your colleague in Congress, but

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Speaker 1: there were certainly some close even in Arizona. And I

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Speaker 1: could actually ask you about that, if that's cool. In

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But let's let's start with this. As

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here talking to you, there's all these headlines

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Speaker 1: about the debt ceiling and how if we default, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria,

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Speaker 1: Horrible things are gonna happen. Can you just square away, like,

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Speaker 1: how many months has this negotiation been going on? What

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Speaker 1: have Republicans done? What are Republicans asking for? Because it

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Speaker 1: hasn't really gotten much attention.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this has been going on for a long time, Buck,

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Speaker 2: and you know, it's it's interesting and it's kind of

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Speaker 2: pretty cool. I think that Republicans actually passed a bill

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Speaker 2: that we'd be able to do that, especially when you have,

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Speaker 2: did test raising the debt sailing, spending more money that

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Speaker 2: we don't have. You know, many of you know it

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Speaker 2: is the Freedom Caucus. There's some folks outside the Freedom

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Speaker 2: it was pretty it was pretty interesting that we were

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Speaker 2: able to pass that. And when I look the reason

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Speaker 2: that I voted for it, I was one of the

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Speaker 2: You know, some people might say I was the swing

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Speaker 2: guy to actually vote for it. Time had expired. I

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Speaker 2: was putting my voting card in and I was sweating bullets, man,

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Speaker 2: because I felt so torn. I know that we'll never

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Speaker 2: we don't have, and so going into it that whole

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Speaker 2: week and leading up to it, I was a pretty

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Speaker 2: hard note. And then you know, I kept talking to

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Speaker 2: other members in the Freedom Caucus and they were basically

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Speaker 2: telling me, Eli, nothing, nothing even close to this, has

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Speaker 2: ever come to the House floor. We've never had, you know,

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Speaker 2: the chance to pass something with this this many heavy

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Speaker 2: cuts in it, solid cuts that go after woke and

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Speaker 2: weaponize spending of the federal government. And also the thing

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Speaker 2: that really put me over the edge to vote for it,

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Speaker 2: Buck was, you know, folks in my district. We did

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Speaker 2: and you know, the vast majority, like ninety percent of

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Speaker 2: I told them what was in it, you know, what

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Speaker 2: the pros, what the cons were, and that really surprised me.

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Speaker 2: I did not think the folks in my district would

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Speaker 2: did that the next day, and I think we had

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Speaker 2: the complete opposite way, you know. And so their voice

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Speaker 2: that was one of those times, and I'm sure there'll

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Speaker 1: So Converso, what do the Republicans want cut, you know,

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Speaker 1: What what would be a you know, in your mind,

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Speaker 1: an acceptable outcome here, assuming that there's some negotiation on

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Speaker 1: the part of the Democrats. After the House Republicans have

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Speaker 1: already passed the continued funding.

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Speaker 2: Well, like I said, you know, that would it's hard

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Speaker 2: So I don't want to see anything come back that's

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Speaker 2: weaker than what we've already passed in the House. But

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Speaker 2: the things that we're looking for, Buck, we definitely want

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Speaker 2: to pump the brakes on the federal spending up here.

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Speaker 2: So we wanted to cut back spending to twenty two

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Speaker 2: non defense discretionary spending levels. Some of the things that

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Speaker 2: we were going after, as you probably know, Buck, we

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Speaker 2: were going after the money for the doubling of the IRS,

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Speaker 2: the eighty seven thousand new IRS agents. We wanted to

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Speaker 2: snatch that money and really try to protect the American

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Speaker 2: people from that. We went after the Green New Deal

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Speaker 2: of it, and after some of those funds. We went

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Speaker 2: after some of the COVID recession funds, funds that were

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Speaker 2: you know, sitting in a fund. We went We were

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Speaker 2: trying to closs some of that back. We also after

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Speaker 2: the college bailout deal that you know, put Americans up

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Speaker 2: believe and they quite frankly shouldn't have to pay to

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Speaker 2: bail out folks that have taken you know, college loans.

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Speaker 2: And so those are some of the things that we

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Speaker 2: went after. As you can tell, those pull pretty well

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Speaker 2: here's the deal, buck, You know the deal. If you

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Speaker 2: if you try and cut anything, you'll be they will

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Speaker 2: find ways to demonize you. One of the ways they

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Speaker 2: tried to demonize us was saying that we were going

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Speaker 2: after veteran disabilities. Matter of fact, the Secretary of Veterans

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Speaker 2: crazy because we never Republicans never said anything like that

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Speaker 2: at all. And so, you know, it's been it's been interesting,

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Speaker 2: you know, getting you know, some experience with just a

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Speaker 2: and start making changes, uh, you know, the slander and

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Speaker 2: the lies that the swamp will start to generate to

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Speaker 1: How has Speaker McCarthy done up to this point? I

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Speaker 1: mean you were you were involved, if I recall correctly,

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Speaker 1: in making sure that it would be a different speakership

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Speaker 1: than what some would have expected, right, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: were part of the group that weren't just willing to say,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, sure, whoever the whoever the system wants, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna we're going to just put forward and that there

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Speaker 1: was discussion. There were discussions, and there when there were

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Speaker 1: concessions made. From what I understand, the Speaker's numbers in

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Speaker 1: terms of favorables among Republicans has gone up pretty considerably.

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Speaker 1: Almost six months. You know, here we are into the year.

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Speaker 1: So how how would you assess how the Speaker's been

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Speaker 1: and some of the that, you know, what has surprised

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Speaker 2: You know, I want to call balls and strikes, Buck.

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Speaker 2: I think everybody knows that. You know, I didn't vote

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Speaker 2: for Kevin McCarthy for fifteen rounds. I was one of

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Speaker 2: the final four left at the end of that, and

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Speaker 2: I still didn't vote for him at the end of it.

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Speaker 2: But I got to give him credit. I've I've told

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Speaker 2: I think he's doing a really good job. That being said,

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Speaker 2: I will point out the fact that he's incentiveized to

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Speaker 2: some you know, Republicans and some Conservatives that you know,

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Speaker 2: we will we will hold the speaker accountable for deals

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Speaker 2: that he's made, you know, with the Conservative group so

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Speaker 2: that he could become speaker. And I'm going to tell

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Speaker 2: you something, Buck, that job that he has, you know,

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Speaker 2: I wish I wouldn't wish that on anybody, you know,

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Speaker 2: I know, nobody, nobody else in the party really wanted it.

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Speaker 2: And I think he's done a really good job. And

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Speaker 2: you know, I pray for his success because it's important

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Speaker 2: to the country that he does do a good job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes the job that has the big office just

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Speaker 1: means that the cage you're in is a little bigger,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's not always It's not

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Speaker 1: always all it's cracked up to be. People feel like, oh,

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Speaker 1: the speaker is so much power. I'm sure there's a

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of that that people really say. I

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Speaker 1: want to talk to you about Ukraine, the GOP position

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Speaker 1: on it and what we should do about it. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you're a former Navy seal, you're a guy who saw combat.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about that. We come back in a second.

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Speaker 1: That we would even under the Biden administration, Let's just

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Speaker 2: I don't think that we would do anything. Buck. I

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Speaker 1: What were they selling. It's an excellent it's such an

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Speaker 2: You know, it's really hard, Buck, And that's not what

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Speaker 1: Man, Well, we appreciate that. And this is I knew

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Speaker 1: K all right, Eli. First off, people ask me, they say,

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Speaker 1: have we fixed the problem in Arizona when it comes

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Speaker 1: to elections? And I say, I don't know, but I'll

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Speaker 1: ask people who do. I'll find out. How do you

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Speaker 1: how secure do you feel? I mean, you just won, right,

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Speaker 1: so we know that Republicans can win a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of Republicans one in twenty twenty two. For anybody who

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Speaker 1: has concerns about the security of elections, particularly in your state,

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Speaker 1: what do you say to them, Like, when you're traveling around,

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Speaker 1: either statewide or nationwide, what do you say about Arizona elections?

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Speaker 2: Well, Buck, you know, at the risk of sounding conspiratorial,

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Speaker 2: I don't trust the elections in Arizona at all. And

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Speaker 2: you know, you bring up a good play and people

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Speaker 2: will say, wow, well, Eli, you you won your race

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Speaker 2: in Arizona. And you know what I say to that, Buck, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I didn't have to deal with Maricopa County. And

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Speaker 2: I think if I had to deal with Maricopa County, Buck,

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Speaker 2: I don't think I'd be sitting here today. I could

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Speaker 2: be wrong on that. It's just, you know, it's just

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Speaker 2: what I've seen, what I've read, you know, over and

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Speaker 2: over and over again. It's it's just, you know, I

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Speaker 2: I don't trust it. I know that the the state

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Speaker 2: legislature has been doing some good work down there with

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Speaker 2: Senator Wendy Rogers Senator Sonny Barelli. I believe they passed

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Speaker 2: something yesterday that had to do with voting machines, I'll

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Speaker 2: have to take a better look at what they what

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Speaker 2: they passed. But I think I know they're doing some

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Speaker 2: good work down there. I know they haven't given up.

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Speaker 2: And uh, you know that's important to me, man, because

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Speaker 2: you know, I honestly like I don't trust I don't

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Speaker 2: trust our elections the way they are and some of

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Speaker 2: the things that I see, you know, from you know,

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Speaker 2: the ballot harvesting that was going on. You know, I

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Speaker 2: just I don't trust them. And you know, the thing

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Speaker 2: is too buck, Like, I know, just years before you know,

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Speaker 2: President Trump started, you know, you know, winning, the Democrats

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Speaker 2: were complaining about it as well. They were doing Senate

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Speaker 2: reports about, you know, how corruptible. You know, these machines

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Speaker 2: were et cetera, et cetera. And everybody knows that any machine,

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Speaker 2: any computer, can be hacked, right if you if you

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Speaker 2: put the right, if you put the right people on it.

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Speaker 2: But we act like, oh, they're completely incorruptible. And when

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Speaker 2: you look at just this last election that we had,

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Speaker 2: how many of the voting centers went down on election day,

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Speaker 2: you know that was pretty that was honestly pretty suspicious.

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Speaker 2: And you know, here's here's the thing, too, Buck, When

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Speaker 2: you when you compare Katie Hobbes and Kerry Lake. Have

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Speaker 2: you've met Carrie, right, Buck?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I know, I know, Carry? Sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a savage man. And I say that in

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Speaker 2: a love the most love, being respectful way she is.

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Speaker 2: She's a boss lady Harry Lake could do. I think

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Speaker 2: Carry Lake could do anything she wants to do. She's

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Speaker 2: one of the most intelligent people that I've ever met

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Speaker 2: in my life. She might be the best communicator I've

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Speaker 2: ever met in my life. I multiple times went to

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Speaker 2: events with Carrie and she's like a rock star in Arizona.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you look at their social media accounts alone.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's like, and I know that circumstantial evidence, Buck,

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Speaker 2: but it's like, I mean, come on, man, you know,

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Speaker 2: and here's some more circumstantial evidence. But you know, when

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Speaker 2: I look at Joe Biden, this guy that had lost

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Speaker 2: presidential races before, was a complete gaff machine, and he

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Speaker 2: campaigned out of his basement, you know, for almost the

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Speaker 2: entire time, got eighty one million votes. He did better

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Speaker 2: than you know, Barack Obama. It's like, come on, man,

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Speaker 2: that right there should send warning signs to people. And

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's hard evidence right there. That is

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Speaker 2: circumstantial evidence. But that should really concern people. The guy

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Speaker 2: could barely string together a sentence while he was campaigning.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I'm really worried about our elections nationwide

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Speaker 2: because I think these folks that are pulling the strings

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Speaker 2: and running the show, I think they'll I think they

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Speaker 2: will do anything for power.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's definitely, that's definitely true, right. I mean, we've

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Speaker 1: seen they'll lock up people because they were parading on

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Speaker 1: government ground on January sixth. They'll lock them in solitary

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Speaker 1: confinement for eighteen months, denied them basic human decency and

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Speaker 1: basic human rights for nonviolent crimes, and hold them there

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Speaker 1: under the premise. And this is from the judicial opinion

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Speaker 1: that I saw for one of the detainees that they

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Speaker 1: can't let them out on bail because they'll do another insurrection.

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Speaker 1: Right as if, as if that's in any universe a

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Speaker 1: reasonable position or reasonable belief. But Eli, I want to

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Speaker 1: hope maybe this will be in a wholeful note. I've

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Speaker 1: got one last question for you. I'll get to it

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Speaker 1: with you in a second, but it's how do you

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Speaker 1: see things looking for twenty twenty four? But let's just

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Speaker 1: put a pause in that for a second. The Tunnel

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Speaker 1: the Towers Foundation, everybody you know Eli's a veteran. Tunnel

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Speaker 1: the Towers does amazing stuff for the veterans community. It

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Speaker 1: really keeps the promise of the American people to support

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Speaker 1: and assist our heroes and to never forget what they've

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Speaker 1: done for this country. You know, my wife Carrie, she's

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Speaker 1: doing the Tunnel the Towers climb in New York City

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Speaker 1: the first week of June. So I'm involved a Tunnel

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Speaker 1: the Towers. She's involved a Tunnel to the Towers. We

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Speaker 1: think it's such an important organization, and through the Veteran

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Speaker 1: Homelessness Program, Tunnel the Towers is providing housing and servicing

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Speaker 1: services to homeless veterans. They did it for more than

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Speaker 1: five hundred veterans in twenty twenty two. They're going to

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Speaker 1: do it for more than fifteen hundred veterans this year.

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Speaker 1: Because all veterans who honorably serve deserved our nation's gratitude,

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Speaker 1: joined Tunnel the Towers on its mission to do good

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Speaker 1: and never forget the sacrifices of our greatest heroes. Donate

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Speaker 1: eleven dollars a month. I do every month. Eleven dollars. Please,

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Speaker 1: that's all it takes to get started here. T two

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Speaker 1: T dot org. That's t the number two T dot org. Eli,

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Speaker 1: what do you see for twenty twenty four?

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Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 1: Hopeful, optimistic, concerned? You have a dog in the race

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Speaker 1: or a dog in the fight, so to speak, already,

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely concerned. But you know, you and I

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Speaker 2: just got done talking about election integrity. That right there

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Speaker 2: overshadows you know the reasons, you know some of the

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Speaker 2: reasons for my concern right there, I do have a

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Speaker 2: dog in the fight. I endorse President Trump, I think

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Speaker 2: the day or two after he announced. And it's not

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Speaker 2: because I don't, you know, like or respect Ronda Santis.

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Speaker 2: I most certainly do. I think he's done amazing things

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Speaker 2: down in Florida. One of the reasons that I support

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Speaker 2: President Trump is because I think that things are so

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Speaker 2: bad right now we need the biggest, baddest fighter that

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Speaker 2: maybe we've ever had in America and politics, and I

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Speaker 2: believe that that is President Trump. And the other thing, too,

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Speaker 2: buck is he doesn't need any on the job training.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be able to walk into that. And I

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Speaker 2: think because I think he's been stewing and mulling on

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Speaker 2: some of the things he wishes he would have done

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Speaker 2: for the last several years. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: if if he gets the nomination, is able to win,

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Speaker 2: pull this off and win it, I think he'll walk

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Speaker 2: in and I think he'll make some drastic changes that

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Speaker 2: have been needed for a long time. And so, you know,

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Speaker 2: do I wish President Trump would you know, not not

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Speaker 2: not pick a lot of Twitter fights and you know,

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Speaker 2: ratchet it, ratchet it down from time to time. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: But we all have a friend like President Trump who's

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Speaker 2: just a natural born fighter, and a lot of times

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Speaker 2: they don't know that, they don't know how to turn

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Speaker 2: it off, and and and but that's okay, man.

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Speaker 1: In this we want a bar fight, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: stuff gets ugly. You want the guy that throws the

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Speaker 1: punches exactly.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's who That's why we need him

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Speaker 2: right now. I hope he's able to pull it off,

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Speaker 2: and I hope. I know that the Democrats are still

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Speaker 2: scared the death of him. That's why you see so

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Speaker 2: much lawfair coming at him. But you know, he's he's

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Speaker 2: definitely my pick. But I will I will support you know,

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Speaker 2: definitely either Trump or the Santas if they come. You know,

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Speaker 2: whoever comes through, you know that race, because we need

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Speaker 2: we need a Republican back in the House. But I'm

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Speaker 2: hoping there's President Trump.

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Speaker 1: Hope so too. Eli. Thank you as always for your

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Speaker 1: service both on the battlefield and now up on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us here on the show

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you, Buck, thank you man.