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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports where.

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Speaker 2: Hello, and you were listening to Tracy Sandler and Steve

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Speaker 2: Hartman and Fox Sports Saturday. So much to discuss. We

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Speaker 2: talked about baseball in the last hour. Just wanted to

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Speaker 2: bring up Aaron Judge going on the IL with the flexerstrain.

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Speaker 3: I just bring that up because this could really affect

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Speaker 3: the Yankees.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if it's not the end of the world,

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Speaker 2: I guess when he comes off the IL, he's only

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Speaker 2: going to DH But the Yankees are not the powerhouse

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Speaker 2: they were last year. I don't think they'd nessarly were

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Speaker 2: the powerhouse last year that they were last year.

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Speaker 3: But that's just coming from me.

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Speaker 2: But anyways, could affect them going forward.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Steve Well.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you lose your ace pitcher to start the season.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't help.

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Speaker 3: No, it definitely does.

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Speaker 4: And so from that point on, you're really dependent on

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Speaker 4: your offense. And let's face it, I mean, Aaron Judge

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Speaker 4: is the biggest offensive force in the American League certainly,

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Speaker 4: so if he's down for any period of time, that's

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Speaker 4: going to have an adverse effect on the Yankees.

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Speaker 2: Yes it is, but we are now going to switch

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Speaker 2: gears back to the NFL. You guys, as we mentioned

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Speaker 2: in the first hour the first week of training camp,

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Speaker 2: and it's a perfect time for us to overreact to everything.

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Speaker 2: So with that in mind, Steve, I want us to

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Speaker 2: go kind of lightning round, division by division.

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Speaker 3: Who we each think is going to win their division?

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Speaker 3: Are you ready?

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Speaker 4: I am ready to they We're all all right.

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Speaker 2: Let's start in the AFC East. Bills, Dolphins, Patriots are Jets.

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Speaker 4: So this division is so lopsided in favor of the Bills.

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Speaker 4: It's like the old New England days when they basically

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Speaker 4: feasted on the Bills and the Jets and the Dolphins.

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Speaker 4: Now it's the same thing with the Bills. I think

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Speaker 4: the Dolphins are going to be worse than expected. New

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Speaker 4: England is obviously trying to rebuild again, and the Jets

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Speaker 4: are the Jets. Yes, So I mean it's to me

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Speaker 4: this is such a one sided division, which gives, by

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Speaker 4: the way, the Bills the golden opportunity to get that

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Speaker 4: number one overall seat. That is what it's going to

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Speaker 4: take if Buffalo wants to get to the super Bowl,

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Speaker 4: is to get that number one overall seat in the

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Speaker 4: AFC and have a ticket through Buffalo to get to

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Speaker 4: the super Bowl, and I think this could be the year.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, Bill's in a runaway over a very weak division.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that. AFC North, this one's harder. Bengals, Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steelers and Ravens. Can I go first, go for it.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to pick the Ravens, but I think the

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Speaker 2: Bengals could do it.

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Speaker 4: I agree with that the Ravens are the best team

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Speaker 4: in this division. They really are. And I know Bridget's

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Speaker 4: going to be joining us a little bit later on

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Speaker 4: from Ravens camp, so we'll talk to her about that.

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Speaker 4: The other teams have questions. I mean again, I picked

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow last year before the season to be the

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Speaker 4: league's MVP, and if you ignore the Bengals record, he,

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Speaker 4: in my opinion, he was the MVP. I mean, he

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Speaker 4: was so dominant on a team, but no defense. And

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Speaker 4: this is the problem when you have a cheap organization

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Speaker 4: led by Mike Brown. The Bengals are never going to

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Speaker 4: spend the kind of money. I mean, the fact that

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Speaker 4: you're haggling over your best defensive player just is beyond belief.

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Speaker 4: But that's the part for the Bengals. The Browns have

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Speaker 4: no quarterback until they actually have a quarterback. And so

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Speaker 4: you know, the interesting thing is is that Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 4: has owned John Harbaugh the Steelers. They own the Ravens.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if the Ravens are a better team.

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Speaker 4: For whatever reason, the Steelers have their number. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I agree the Ravens should win that division.

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Speaker 2: And honestly, the Steelers didn't even come into play with me,

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Speaker 2: and I know that they feel like they've gone all in,

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Speaker 2: but I until I see it, I do not believe that.

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Speaker 4: This is my question is this. I know there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of doubters, and I'm believing I'm not the biggest

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers famine on the planet, and he can be

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Speaker 4: a cancer on a team. I believe that. But how

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Speaker 4: are they worse at quarterback than they've been over the

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Speaker 4: last four years? I mean, they're not gonna be worse.

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Speaker 4: I mean, is he better than Kenny Pickett? Is he

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Speaker 4: better than whatever they had a year ago? Yeah? He's

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Speaker 4: better and he did start all seventeen games for the

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Speaker 4: Jets a year ago. So I think they made an

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Speaker 4: upgraded quarterback. How much I don't know, but I think

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Speaker 4: the Steelers will once again be right, they always are

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Speaker 4: like a ten win team, sneaking into the playoffs and

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Speaker 4: making no noise.

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Speaker 2: I could not agree with you more because I agree

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Speaker 2: with you not worse. I just don't think it makes

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Speaker 2: the impact to get them to the next step. All right,

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Speaker 2: the AFC South, this is an interesting division. The Titans,

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Speaker 2: the Colts, the Jaguars, the Texans. I mean I'm picking

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Speaker 2: the Texans up.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so I mean we'll eliminate the Titans. All right,

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Speaker 4: So the Titans are out? Who is a shuck? That

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Speaker 4: is that? The guy's name is that? The guys name that?

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Speaker 4: This the Tennessee quarterback? Now that's the Saints guy. H

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Speaker 4: So Tennessee these days, I get I could get confused

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Speaker 4: with some of these quarterbacks right now. So Tennessee has

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Speaker 4: got Cam Moore the number overall pick, obviously, and we'll

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Speaker 4: see how he does on a very bad football team.

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Speaker 4: But you know, when I look at this team, I

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Speaker 4: still go back to Jacksonville, like what happened?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean a year ago, A lot of people, including

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Speaker 4: Where are you not hyped up on Jacksonville before last season?

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Speaker 1: Listen?

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Speaker 6: I when I said that preview, I said, I do

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Speaker 6: this fully knowing that I have fallen for the Jaguars

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Speaker 6: trap for a about three years, where everything looks right,

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Speaker 6: it should be good enough for this roster, everything looks

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Speaker 6: like that, it should align for them for the AFC South.

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Speaker 6: And still when we get to the season, bub kiss

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Speaker 6: falling on your face, repeatedly shooting yourself in the foot,

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Speaker 6: emptying the clip, reloading another clip, shooting yourself in the foot,

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Speaker 6: some more, looking up, saying here's what happened, and then

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Speaker 6: Trevor Lawrence gets hurt that it just seems to happen

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Speaker 6: every damn time for the Jaguars. How they're gonna use

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Speaker 4: I don't know. We're gonna find out. But the bottom

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Speaker 4: line is Jaguars are on my short listed teams that

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Speaker 4: are going to exceed expectations. I have nothing to wait

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Speaker 4: wait wait, wait, no, no, But I just think Jacksonville

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Speaker 4: in that division could rebound. And the Texans to me,

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Speaker 4: came out of nowhere two years ago. I know they

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Speaker 4: decide Andiel Jones going to be your quarterback? Is that

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Speaker 4: really going to happen? So I am going to go

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Speaker 4: out on the limb and pick Jacksonville to rebound and

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Speaker 4: win a very weak AFC.

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Speaker 1: Suff it.

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Speaker 6: The worst part is is I look at you, I'm like,

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Speaker 6: there's no one else there to stop them, unless you

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Speaker 6: really think the Colts are going to turn around, and

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Speaker 2: I believe in I believe in the Texans coach so much,

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Speaker 2: but then that just maybe believing the coach too much.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I have no question he's a quality coach.

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Speaker 4: He's proven over two years obviously, But I just I

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Speaker 4: just have a sense that there's going to be a

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Speaker 4: hiccupy Texans, and it's coming this year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm now we're off to the vision that I

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Speaker 2: think is kind of the most interesting. Broncos, Chiefs, Raiders, Chargers.

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Speaker 4: So, Tracy, I've said this, there has never been a

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Speaker 4: division with four better coaches at the same time than

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Speaker 4: this division has. In twenty twenty five. You have three

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Speaker 4: coaches that have won Super Bowls and Jim Harbo has

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Speaker 4: been to a Super Bowl, won a national championship in mission.

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Speaker 4: We have never seen a division top to bot him.

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Speaker 4: Have four coaches of this caliber. Sean Payton and Pete

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Speaker 4: Andy Reid is a first ballot guy. That being said,

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Speaker 4: I think we're in for a turnaround in this AFC West.

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Speaker 7: I do too.

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Speaker 4: And if you look at top rated offensive defensive lines,

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Speaker 4: the top two teams in the league are the Philadelphia

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Speaker 4: Eagles and the Denver Broncos. And Sean Payton gets another

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Speaker 4: year out of bow Knicks where he doesn't have to

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Speaker 4: learn the system on the fly. I think Denver is

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Speaker 4: very capable of winning twelve or thirteen games. I think

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Speaker 4: it's over for the Chiefs. The humiliating loss in the

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl. I've come out and said, I think Patrick

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Speaker 4: Mahomes has played in his last Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Wow that I'm gonna agree with you on the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I agree with that on Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: Time will tell. I mean, I can understand why you

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: Travis Kelce is at the end of his career. She's

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Speaker 4: because of they got humiliated in the Super Bowl. He

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Speaker 4: doesn't want to end his career that way. He may

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Speaker 4: end his career with not even making the playoffs this year.

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Speaker 1: He might.

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Speaker 3: I definitely do not disagree with that.

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Speaker 2: I am all in on the Broncos, which is hard

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Speaker 2: for me because you know, my guy, Jim coaches the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: But I think they are going to win this division.

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Speaker 2: They did, they upgraded their defense and it's it's gonna

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Speaker 4: I think Jim Harbor should have gotten Coach of the

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Speaker 4: Year last year. I don't know. I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 4: you talk about they had a running back, Darbins, who

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Speaker 4: had every single noble leg injury. The idea of signing

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Speaker 4: him seemed bizarre considering he basically missed the three previous years.

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Speaker 4: They squeezed everything out of him. You know, they've they've

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Speaker 4: upgraded running back, no doubt about that. But I am

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Speaker 4: still hesitant on Herbert. Yeah, there's some of the things

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Speaker 4: that I was told about Herbert when he was at

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Speaker 4: and everything else. I didn't buy into it. And then

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Speaker 4: two years in he's a Pro Bowl starter, but he

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Speaker 4: hasn't progressed.

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Speaker 3: No, he is not. And he had some bad interceptions

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Speaker 3: in that playoff.

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Speaker 4: Game well as many. He threw more interceptions in one

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Speaker 4: playoff game than he did the entire year. My guess

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Speaker 4: is Chargers are in good hands with Jim Harbaugh. But

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Speaker 4: I think they're going to take a step back before

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Speaker 4: they take a step forward this year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well I can see that. All right, we're going

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Speaker 3: to move over to the NFC.

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Speaker 2: The NFC East, well, probably easy, but the cow maybe

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Speaker 2: not easy. Cowboys, Giants, Eagles and Commanders. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: pick the Eagles. I still have all in on the Commanders.

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Speaker 2: I just am not going to go against that Eagles

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Speaker 2: team and their performance in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: All right, I'm not. I'm going to shock you with

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Speaker 4: this one. First of all, it's been twenty years since

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Speaker 4: a team repeated his AFCAST champs. Think about that NFC East.

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Speaker 4: It's been twenty years, that's all since the team won

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Speaker 4: back to back NFC East championships. Okay, so the Eagle

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Speaker 4: I've known Kevin O'Connell so long I watched him play

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Speaker 2: So I'm picking the Vikings with my heart because anybody

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Speaker 4: I'm not against I mean, any of these three teams

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Speaker 2: But somebody's gonna have to win that division. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: Why not, Well, you go with the Bucks. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll put it this way. Seattle and Arizona to

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Speaker 2: I would say, right in the middle of the WNBA season,

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Speaker 2: Well, I think as far as injuries are concerned, she

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Speaker 3: I don't know that it's jealousy.

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Speaker 4: until they realized that eyeballs were everywhere on golf, and

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Speaker 4: It is going to be very interesting moving for it. Look,

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Speaker 4: I'm she had a tremendous game. She's leading the league

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Speaker 4: in scoring right now. You mentioned Minnesota. They only have

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Speaker 4: four losses on the season. They're having a tremendous year.

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Speaker 4: They're just dominating home. They've wiped out the Aces. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's a good team. But you know

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Speaker 4: Los Angeles, you know she's a star player. How much

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Speaker 4: attention is she actually getting. So it's very hard for

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Speaker 4: me to read, but based on what's happening right now, yes,

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Speaker 4: the Links would appear to be the team in the

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Speaker 4: driver's seat. Would you like to make it a longer

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Speaker 4: season for the WNBA?

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Speaker 3: Huh, that's a very good question. Maybe a little bit longer.

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Speaker 4: How many games would you like to see see people

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Speaker 4: constantly complain like the NBA season is too long? Eighty

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Speaker 4: two games? Cut it in a half. All right, Well,

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Speaker 4: if you cut it in half, you got a WNBA season.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you who I'm not cutting in half,

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Speaker 2: the great Martin Wise. I so pride myself on these

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Speaker 2: transitions that I sometimes it's a reach, but wow, we

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Speaker 2: got Martin Wise for our sports of deep break.

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Speaker 4: So, Martina, do you have an answer to Tracy's question,

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Speaker 4: who do you like right now to win the WNBA?

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Speaker 9: I'd say the Liberty.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Liberty, You're going to Liberty.

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Speaker 9: I'm the Liberty.

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Speaker 10: Also, like signing a Meesman is like a clear ring

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Speaker 10: chasing move, and at this stage in my life I

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Speaker 10: kind of support that type of thing.

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Speaker 9: Okay, show, I'm here for it.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 4: Here's why you know the w NBA has truly a

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Speaker 9: That's a lot of money you can be made in

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Speaker 4: Apparently, well what they bound what the players for? Steve

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Speaker 4: Well I talked to Jeff Schwartz about this, all right,

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Speaker 4: to win on the wn B A if you actually

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Speaker 4: do a little homework, it's like stealing money.

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Speaker 10: Well, because you know the average person.

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Speaker 9: I wouldn't say the average WA fan.

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Speaker 10: The average person knows Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese and maybe

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 10: Maybe, I mean, but probably the tops list tops up

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Speaker 10: at five. Yeah, like you said, if you and ask

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Speaker 10: you like I said five. So like I said, but

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Speaker 10: I'm locked in, like I make a lot of money

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Speaker 10: on the WNBA, So I think.

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Speaker 4: I bet people make a lot of money on the

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Speaker 9: I'm not betting baseball and all that.

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Speaker 10: No, I mean Jonathan India one for five today, that

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Speaker 10: one a three run home run, Guardians win, go, I

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Speaker 10: mean Royals win, Y'll figure five to three.

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Speaker 9: I'm not betting that. Two five hundred teams.

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Speaker 1: How you supposed to pick?

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Speaker 10: Yankees beat the Phillies, said, Phillies beat the Yankees ninth

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Speaker 10: to four.

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Speaker 9: Bryce Harper with his fifteenth.

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Speaker 10: Home run of the season, Aaron Judge going on the

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Speaker 10: injured list with the flex restrain. They're also what is

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Speaker 10: it what four games back now up Toronto in the

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Speaker 10: Al East. Texans running back Joe Mixon will be out

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Speaker 10: in the majority of the preseasons.

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Speaker 9: The ankle injury we.

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Speaker 10: Re evaluated closer to the start of.

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Speaker 9: The regular season.

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Speaker 10: Traylon Burgs, Tennessee Titans wide receiver would fracture colin bone

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Speaker 10: during open practice today. The Titans also signed Romel Keaton

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Speaker 10: wide receiver. Vikings wrap up Josh Mattellus to a three year,

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Speaker 10: thirty six million dollar con Tex extension. He was a

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Speaker 10: sixth round draft choice in twenty twenty. You'll stay with

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Speaker 10: the team now for three more years. Dolphins signed for

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Speaker 10: free agent quarterbacks Jack Jones and Mike Hilton after already

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Speaker 10: burns toward his acl and Justin Fields took part in

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Speaker 10: seven on seven work because he works his way back

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Speaker 10: to a full workload from that dislocated toe that had

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Speaker 10: him on the cart on Thursday. Dislocated toe. If just

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Speaker 10: about Steve, think about this, Think about how much stubbing.

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Speaker 9: Your toe has to hurt.

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Speaker 10: Oh, my gosh, so much and how much you were like, yo,

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Speaker 10: cart me off after stubbing my toe.

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Speaker 1: I like people making.

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Speaker 10: Jokes about Justin Fields and it's dislocated to tell yeah,

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Speaker 10: go stop your toe on the bed and see if

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Speaker 10: you don't want the cart.

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Speaker 9: That's all I got.

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Speaker 2: I could not agree with you more, Martin. Toe injuries

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Speaker 2: are real toe injuries.

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Speaker 4: The great Jack Lambert, the legendary middle linebacker of the

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Speaker 4: Still Curtains Steeler Defense. His career ended with turf toe.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: Get off the air.

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Speaker 2: So excited to welcome NFL Networks Bridget Condon, who also

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Speaker 2: frequent co hosts of the show and we love her

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Speaker 2: coming to us from Raven's camp. Hello Bridget, a friend

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Speaker 2: of the show, friend.

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Speaker 3: Of the show, family of the show, Family of the show.

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Speaker 11: I wish I was there sitting next to you, but

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Speaker 11: I guess this is the second best option.

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Speaker 2: Well, you kind of were because you were on our

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Speaker 2: TV earlier, so you were here.

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Speaker 4: Watching you, Bridget. But yes, for me to have to

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Speaker 4: sit in this seat is not the easiest consider Could

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Speaker 4: you see.

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Speaker 11: The flat dripping down my face?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 2: No, it was you were You were doing fabulous from

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Speaker 2: Ravens camp and I've been very excited to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: You and I kind of touched on this last week.

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Speaker 2: What is the feeling at Ravens camp? Is this like

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Speaker 2: an all or nothing season? Do you get that sense

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Speaker 2: so far?

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Speaker 11: So here's the thing. There is so much excitement at

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Speaker 11: Ravens training camp because of the pieces that got this

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Speaker 11: offseason with DeAndre Hopkins and Jaiye Alexander. But they've won

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Speaker 11: two back to back AFC North champions We know championships,

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Speaker 11: we know how great Lamar is. He had a career

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Speaker 11: season breaking all these records last season. The one thing

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Speaker 11: that's not on his resume, guys is that super Bowl,

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Speaker 11: And of course that's the elephant in the room. But

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Speaker 11: for this team, it's just about right now, like let's

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Speaker 11: get the little minute details done during training camp and

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Speaker 11: we'll think about the super Bowl in January. In February.

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Speaker 11: I do want to mention though, you say, like is

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Speaker 11: this now or never? I know a lot of people

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Speaker 11: think it is for Lamar, but he still is such

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Speaker 11: a young player. He's only twenty eight years old. Peyton

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Speaker 11: Manning won his for a Super Bowl a month before

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Speaker 11: turning thirty one. John Elway was thirty seven, So there

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Speaker 11: is still time, though I know a lot of people

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Speaker 11: feel like it's this season or nothing.

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Speaker 4: All right, So when we look at Lamar Jackson's record

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Speaker 4: regular season games rigid seventy and twenty four, postseason three

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Speaker 4: and five, I mean that is a dramatic difference. So

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Speaker 4: until he actually does it. If he does it, the

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Speaker 4: jury's going to be out. So I mean, conceivably he

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Speaker 4: should have won a third MVP. I really thought the

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Speaker 4: reason Josh Allen got is just voter fatigue that like

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Speaker 4: which we just can't give Lamar the reward every year.

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Speaker 4: But what is in the mindset of Lamar Jackson and

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Speaker 4: does he have some creeping doubt or questions of why

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Speaker 4: he has struggled during the postseason when he has made

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Speaker 4: the regular season basically his constant party.

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Speaker 11: Well, I think there are a couple of things. He

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Speaker 11: was asked about it this week and he said, you know,

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Speaker 11: we don't finish like I'm pretty much trying to finish

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Speaker 11: camp the right way to get ready for Week one,

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Speaker 11: not trying to think about the Super Bowl. As I

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Speaker 11: kind of alluded to in the first question, you guys

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Speaker 11: asked like, so he thinks like it's because we don't finish.

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Speaker 11: But when you look at this roster and this team,

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Speaker 11: they have had issues with ys come the playoffs with

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Speaker 11: like some injury. So I think that's why they went

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Speaker 11: out this offseason and got some of the help that

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Speaker 11: they did get. I mean, remember they Flowers was injured

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Speaker 11: during the playoffs last season, and so that's a huge

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Speaker 11: weapon for Lamar. You know, I think Mark Andrews a

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Speaker 11: couple of years ago, or because I was coming off

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Speaker 11: of a knee injury two years ago, if I'm remembering correctly,

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Speaker 11: So there has been issues where you know, his main

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Speaker 11: targets are curt But I don't know what it is

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Speaker 11: because as you mentioned, like he's so good in the

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Speaker 11: regular season, what happens in the postseason. And when you

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Speaker 11: look at the teams that are successful, their defenses are

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Speaker 11: good in January and February, and they have death.

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Speaker 2: So I have a question about someone else over the

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Speaker 2: Ravens who's been tremendously successful, has won a Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: with them several years ago.

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Speaker 3: However, they do keep falling short.

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Speaker 2: Do you think there's any sort of maybe hot seat

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Speaker 2: is a strong word, but maybe a luke warmness seat

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Speaker 2: for John Harbach?

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Speaker 11: I don't think so. Like I think if we want

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Speaker 11: storylines in July, like, throw it out there, let's debate it.

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Speaker 3: We need storylines in July.

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Speaker 11: Bridget No, that's why I love you, Like, I totally

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Speaker 11: see where you're coming from. But just by being there today,

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Speaker 11: like they would have to lose the division for John

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Speaker 11: Harbaugh's seat to get even a little bit toasty, you know,

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Speaker 11: because they've won back to back AFC North championships. They've

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Speaker 11: done a great job in the off season of getting

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Speaker 11: pieces for this team. Yes, they need to win in

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Speaker 11: the playoffs. That is the big elephant in the room.

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Speaker 11: That is the big thing that this Baltimore Ravens team

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Speaker 11: needs to do. But there's still a very good team

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Speaker 11: and I think you know, it starts by the coach,

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Speaker 11: John Harbaugh, and these players respect him. It's not until

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Speaker 11: you have a team that you can't get through to

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Speaker 11: anymore when front offices have to make a decision. And

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Speaker 11: I don't think they're there at all right now.

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Speaker 3: Good because I hate to see anyone with the last

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Speaker 3: name Harbaugh fire.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I mean, but here's the thing. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, when you look at John Harborough's first five seasons,

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Speaker 4: he won nine playoff games. In the twelve years since,

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Speaker 4: he's won four, and one of the problems that they've

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Speaker 4: had is that he has a losing record all time

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Speaker 4: to Mike Tomlin. So where's the buzz right now on

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Speaker 4: Ravens camp here? Bridget about who they consider the biggest threat.

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Speaker 4: Is it going to be the Steelers, Aaron Rodgers? Is

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Speaker 4: it gonna be Joe Burrow? The Bengals. I'm gonna leave

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Speaker 4: Cleveland out of the mix right now until they actually

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Speaker 4: have a quarterback. But I mean Pittsburgh has been a

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Speaker 4: thorn in their side in recent years.

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Speaker 11: Yes, but here's the thing, there's so many question marks

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Speaker 11: with Aaron Rodgers, and I think we can't it's way

662
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Speaker 11: too early to even know what this Pittsburgh team is

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Speaker 11: going to be. I understand to your point, like the

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Speaker 11: Ravens and the Pittsburgh have this crazy rivalry and it's

665
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Speaker 11: always going to be like hard, no tough, physical football

666
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Speaker 11: when these guys match up. But when you look at

667
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Speaker 11: the Bangels. I feel like they've given them more trouble

668
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Speaker 11: late in the season playoff time than the Steelers have

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Speaker 11: in recent years. And with the healthy Joe Burrow now

670
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Speaker 11: they have Jamark Chase, They've got Tee Haigens. Still, that

671
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Speaker 11: is a that is a dangerous team too. You look

672
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Speaker 11: at these offenses that can put up a lot of numbers.

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Speaker 11: That's that's the Bengals. So, I mean, it's just the

674
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Speaker 11: AFC North is going to be one of the toughest divisions,

675
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Speaker 11: especially if Cleveland gets his quarterback figured out. I mean,

676
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Speaker 11: they could still be a decent team. But yeah, I

677
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Speaker 11: think it's just the most important thing for this Ravens

678
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Speaker 11: team is like building that depth so that you're not

679
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Speaker 11: really thin late in the season.

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Speaker 2: So, Brigide, since we're looking at July storylines and all,

681
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Speaker 2: is there a player since you've been up there that

682
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Speaker 2: people are talking about but maybe the rest of the

683
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Speaker 2: NFL world isn't as familiar with, but that they're really

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Speaker 2: excited with in Baltimore.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely, the safety Malachi Starts. He was their first

686
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Speaker 11: round pick. He went layer twenty seven overall, Like that's

687
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Speaker 11: when the Ravens had their pick. He has been a

688
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Speaker 11: spark for this team. Obviously they lost some pieces at safety,

689
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Speaker 11: they needed help in the dB room, and he is

690
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Speaker 11: just like being what they wanted to and more, Kyle

691
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Speaker 11: Hamilton says he's miles ahead of where he was at

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Speaker 11: that point. And so for Kyle Hamilton a vent now

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Speaker 11: to say that about a rookie seaks volumes And I

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Speaker 11: also think, I mean, people know who he is, but

695
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Speaker 11: Dyana Alexander, like he brings a swab to this defense

696
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Speaker 11: that maybe they haven't had in the past. And he's

697
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Speaker 11: like getting in people's faces that practice, breaking up passes,

698
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Speaker 11: engaging with the crowd, and so you know how it

699
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Speaker 11: is like sometimes you need a guy like that to

700
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Speaker 11: pump everybody else up and elevate them too one percent.

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Speaker 2: And when you said that, I was like, Yeah, that

702
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Speaker 2: really isn't something we've seen in the Ravens defense.

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Speaker 4: Well, very quickly, I just want to ask you about

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Speaker 4: the Derek Henry situation. Obviously, an unbelievable year last year

705
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Speaker 4: for the Ravens. How confident are they of a now

706
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Speaker 4: thirty one year old Derrick Henry holding it together and

707
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Speaker 4: having another healthy season.

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Speaker 11: Look, he not only played for them last season, but

709
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Speaker 11: he played a lot. He was what seventy nine yards

710
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Speaker 11: away from surpassing two thousand yards rushing. He had his

711
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Speaker 11: best season of his career, setting Raven's records in his

712
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Speaker 11: first year. So we had a chance to interview him

713
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Speaker 11: today and he said, like he feels that much better,

714
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Speaker 11: like having that extra year with Lamar, And in talking

715
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Speaker 11: with people around the ORGS organization and at practice today,

716
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Speaker 11: they say that he's so valuable to Lamar because he

717
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Speaker 11: kind of takes some of the pressure off. Right before

718
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Speaker 11: he got here, it was Bill Lamar show. Now there's

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Speaker 11: Derrick Henry that there are some other stars, which in

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Speaker 11: turn helps Lamar as well. So I understand that he's

721
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Speaker 11: thirty one, and I actually had our research team look

722
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Speaker 11: that's up for me. The average age of retirement for

723
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Speaker 11: running backs is like twenty seven and two hundred days,

724
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Speaker 11: so he is way past that. But the way he

725
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Speaker 11: cares for his body, he still does the avocados moovies

726
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Speaker 11: in the re have. I don't he doesn't look like

727
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Speaker 11: your average thirty one year old running back because he

728
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Speaker 11: takes such good care.

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Speaker 3: Of his buddy, Bridget. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Lots of good stuff from Ravens Camp wonderful to get

731
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Speaker 2: to talk to you on a Saturday.

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Speaker 3: You guys, we will be right back. This is Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: We are coming to you live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios.

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Speaker 3: I am Tracy Sandler with.

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Speaker 2: Steve Hartman and Steve I'm going to assume this is

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Speaker 2: your first feel Good Stories of the Week segment as well.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: I it was my maiden voyage and the dues and don'ts.

741
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Speaker 3: And you did great, by the way, thank you very much.

742
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Speaker 4: And yes, I have never in all my years of

743
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Speaker 4: radio ever had a segment I was a part of

744
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Speaker 4: called feel Good Stories of the Week. So this is

745
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Speaker 4: my first time doing this.

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Speaker 2: Well, welcome and it's a very nice way to end

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Speaker 2: a show.

748
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Speaker 3: I would you like to go first?

749
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Speaker 4: Wow, I'll let you go first on this one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, my feel good story. My first one is Nick

751
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Speaker 2: Kurtz of the Oakland A's. Yes, today, had a tremendous night.

752
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Speaker 2: Four home runs, a double, a single. He was six

753
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Speaker 2: for six on the night. He had nineteen total basis basis,

754
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Speaker 2: he is the first rookie ever with a four home

755
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Speaker 2: run game. Aside from all of that, which, by the way,

756
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Speaker 2: for A's fans had to be so fun, and A's

757
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 2: fans deserve some love and some fun.

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Speaker 3: His family was there to see it, were they really? Yes?

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Speaker 3: And I think that I.

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Speaker 2: Mean a tremendous night for him stat wise, obviously, maybe

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Speaker 2: one of the greatest offensive nights we'll ever see. But

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Speaker 2: for his family to be there and get to see

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Speaker 2: that night, that just makes it extra stush.

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Speaker 4: I mean arguably. I mean, when we talk six or six,

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Speaker 4: I believe his six runs scored, he's only the sixth

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Speaker 4: player to do that since nineteen hundred four six gut

767
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Speaker 4: runs in a game. Obviously the first rookie d four

768
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Speaker 4: home runs. Now, of course the last home run was

769
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Speaker 4: off a position.

770
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Speaker 3: Player, it doesn't matter, it's still going to go there.

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Speaker 4: That's sort of that's like a lob over the middle.

772
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Speaker 4: But that unbelievable. And by the way, this kid has

773
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Speaker 4: been doing it all season long, and he's really kicking

774
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 4: in a year think about it. I mean, out of

775
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Speaker 4: wake for his first round pick just a year ago,

776
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Speaker 4: and unbelievable game. I am going to go with something

777
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Speaker 4: I was talking about last night on local TV here

778
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Speaker 4: in the Los Angeles area, and that is the Little

779
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Speaker 4: League Soft Fault World Series. Alady and So Westchester del

780
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Speaker 4: Rey is a school that we are a team that

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Speaker 4: we had followed here in southern California, and they beat

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Speaker 4: a team out of Arizona to qualify to go to

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Speaker 4: the World Series. And you know, I don't know how

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Speaker 4: people know about the Softball World Little League World Series,

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Speaker 4: but it's been around for fifty plus years. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's it's as a long history, but I know that, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: a lot of people don't. But now it's getting more

788
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Speaker 4: attention with the growth of women's sports out there. So

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Speaker 4: I was very excited to see the girls. They were

790
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Speaker 4: absolutely going and these are just like, you know, the

791
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Speaker 4: twelve year olds and they're going absolutely nuts and everything else.

792
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Speaker 4: Watching them play is great. You know that sometimes you're

793
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Speaker 4: blown away by what they can do. Other times you're reminded, Yeah,

794
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 4: they're twelve years old, and you know, I'm making some

795
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 4: of the mistakes out there. But I like the fact that,

796
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Speaker 4: you know, it's getting a little more attention now, the

797
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Speaker 4: Little League Softball World Series.

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Speaker 3: Oh I love that. I absolutely love that.

799
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Speaker 2: We were talking a little bit about the WNBA earlier,

800
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Speaker 2: and I want to congratulate Paige Beckers on being the

801
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Speaker 2: first player in WNBA history to have more than three

802
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty points and more than one hundred assists

803
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Speaker 2: in the first twenty games of their career, and that

804
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Speaker 2: is pretty amazing. And obviously the talent is just continuing

805
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: to roll into the WNBA. But I thought that was

806
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Speaker 2: a pretty fantastic accomplishment for her to get.

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Speaker 3: So I feel good about that.

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Speaker 4: Really, I want to add one more here, and we

809
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Speaker 4: got the hard to believe, I mean feel good. How

810
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 4: about the start of the NBA NFL season, which is

811
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Speaker 4: coming up obviously here with the Hall of Fame game

812
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Speaker 4: on Thursday. But one of those remember there was only

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Speaker 4: four inductees. They decided he had a conscious effort the

814
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Speaker 4: Pro Football Hall of Fame because it seemed like they

815
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Speaker 4: were expanding the classes eight people. It was just too many.

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Speaker 4: So they really made a conscious effort to make it

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Speaker 4: much tougher to get in, and so they only had

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Speaker 4: four guys go in. And one of those four is

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Speaker 4: Eric Allen, longtime defensive back and play with the Raiders,

820
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Speaker 4: play with the Eagles, And I've known Eric forever and

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Speaker 4: he is literally one of the nicest people that I've

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Speaker 4: ever met in my life. Associated I mean, you talk

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Speaker 4: about a great guy, great team, a great player who

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Speaker 4: I never thought was going to really be afforded, you

825
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Speaker 4: know the distinction of being called a Pro football Hall

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Speaker 4: of Famer. I can't wait to see his speech. But

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Speaker 4: if ever, just the good guy, well deserved, not overlooked,

828
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Speaker 4: should never have been overlook should have been in years ago,

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Speaker 4: finally getting his day in the spotlight. Eric Allen, congratulations

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Speaker 4: on being a Hall of Well.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 2: That is fantastic and I cannot believe we are already

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Speaker 2: coming up to the Hall of Fame game. The rest

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Speaker 2: of the preseason starts a week later.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell everybody Tracy, because you're going to be everywhere

836
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Speaker 4: in the week's.

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Speaker 9: Ahead, are you not.

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Speaker 3: I Am going to be all over the place, So

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Speaker 3: get where exactly I will.

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Speaker 2: Be up in forty nine ers training camp, but keeping

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Speaker 2: a very close eye on the young men in Santa

842
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 2: Clara and how they are going to progress this season.

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00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: A lot of Brock party, as you mentioned, it's a

844
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Speaker 2: big season for him. They have a lot of young

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Speaker 2: new players on this team, so interesting and fusion of youth.

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Speaker 2: They have a preseason game in Las Vegas. They have

847
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Speaker 2: joint practice with the Raiders, joint practice with the Broncos

848
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Speaker 2: in Santa Clara, so I'll get a first hand look

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Speaker 2: at this Broncos team.

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Speaker 3: So I will be kind of all.

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Speaker 2: Over the place in the next several weeks, and then

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Speaker 2: once the season starts, I will be at a football

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00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: stadium potentially near you every Sunday, some Thursdays, and some Mondays.

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Speaker 2: But I'm excited about it. It's a lot of fun,

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Speaker 2: and I've had a lot of fun today, Steve, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Tracy. Has been a pleasure for me to hang out

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Speaker 4: with you today, even if I go back in time

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Speaker 4: too many times, but that's the way I operate over here.

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Speaker 3: No, I like it.

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Speaker 2: I like hearing it you guys, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, Jason Fitz and Buck Rising, Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 12: Goodbye, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 1: He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitz.

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Speaker 12: It's Bucking Fits taking over Fox Sports Radio on Saturday,

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Speaker 12: talking a lot of football with you. His training camp

866
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Speaker 12: is underway, and my god, we need it. We've all

867
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Speaker 12: been sitting here desperately waiting for football. And there's some

868
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Speaker 12: big news that involves my beloved Raiders. Some controversy could impact.

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Speaker 1: The future of the NFL. We'll get to that in

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Speaker 1: just a second.

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Speaker 12: But Buck, I gotta ask you, the world last night

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Speaker 12: was erupting over Happy Gilmore too.

873
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Speaker 1: Now I just hear me out, Adam.

874
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 12: Sandler movie suck and I don't find his stuff to

875
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 12: be funny at all.

876
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna say that, like right out of

877
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: the gate.

878
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 12: The number of times I've tried to watch Happy Gilmore

879
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 12: and everybody's like, oh, no, no, no, try it again.

880
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 12: So last year I was one and I was flying

881
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 12: somewhere and they had it, and I was like, Okay,

882
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 12: you know what open mind knew me. Sometimes your tastes

883
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 12: change over years. I'm going to try this again. I

884
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 12: made it like thirty minutes into it, and I was

885
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 12: texting some of my buddies and I was like, if

886
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 12: you really think this is hysterical, we shouldn't be friends anymore.

887
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: I just I don't get it.

888
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 13: You have to wear the end relationships with people. If

889
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 13: they think Adam Sandler movies are funny, well, it just.

890
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 12: Means that we have a much different sense of human

891
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 12: And this is where people are like, well maybe you

892
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 12: just don't like, you know, juvenile craft, humor and the

893
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 12: Hangover is one of my favorite movies, might be my

894
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 12: favorite movie of all time. So, like, I am not

895
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 12: particularly like a high brow humor guy. I just think

896
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 12: Adam Sandler is a one trick pony that I don't

897
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 12: really like it. He does a trick that I don't

898
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 12: particularly find funny. So but that being said to each

899
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 12: their owner, and I'm not gonna yuck somebody's jump. So

900
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 12: everybody last night seemed wildly excited for Happy Gilmore too.

901
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 12: In fact, one of my producers at Yahoo was throwing

902
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 12: a whole party, having friends over, making.

903
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: It a whole thing.

904
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 12: I am always skeptical of a sequel that's waited a

905
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 12: long time, like sequels that are just you know, when

906
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 12: Star Wars came back with the prequels like that, oh

907
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 12: it was just you know sometimes these things just just.

908
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 13: The prequels of Star Wars are my original Star Wars

909
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 13: because of the age differentiation between the two of us.

910
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 12: And I'm so sorry that you had to like jar

911
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 12: Jar had to be your first thing. Like that's just

912
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 12: I was in a packed theater, I was people were

913
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 12: dressed up everywhere in the theater that night.

914
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: I had goosebumps when the music played, and then jar

915
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: Jar came.

916
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 12: Out and I was like, what my entire childhood is

917
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 12: just being nicked on right now.

918
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: And so look, that was my experience.

919
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 12: But watching social media explode last night, I'm watching people

920
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 12: that were tweeting and posting on Instagram with tremendous excitement

921
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 12: then telling me it's the worst movie of all time,

922
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 12: the worst thing they've ever sat through, couldn't make it through.

923
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: I don't know what people expected, but I think there's

924
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: a life lesson here, like don't make the sequel.

925
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 5: All but the movie.

926
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 13: The movie studios are out of original ideas, like that's

927
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 13: that's what this this These are cast grabs. And also

928
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 13: on Monday, you sat there and looked at me and said,

929
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 13: you know what, it doesn't matter how great Scotty Scheffler

930
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 13: is at golf, if Scotty Scheffler doesn't have the personality

931
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 13: that would bring in additional attention that would vault him

932
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 13: into a different stratosphere of greatness. So I present to you,

933
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 13: Jason Fitz Happy Gilmore too, with every cameo under the

934
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 13: sun that you could possibly get for viral attention and

935
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 13: Internet fame and attraction and all these different things to

936
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 13: prop it up further beyond a terrible I haven't seen

937
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 13: it yet, but I'm sure a terrible plot.

938
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 5: Like I can't I can't imagine this is going to

939
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 5: be a good movie.

940
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 13: Respectfully, I have respect for Adam Sandler. I love that

941
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 13: he gets his people involved. You know, I'm I like

942
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 13: fewer of his movies than the vast majority of people do,

943
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 13: but the ones that he has that I like their hits.

944
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 13: You advocated for something that is basically Happy Gilmore too,

945
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 13: and now you're saying, don't even make it. Don't bother

946
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 13: what happened?

947
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 12: Wait wait, wait, more people paying attention to Happy Gilmore

948
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 12: than we'll ever pay attention to anything.

949
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: Scotty Sheffler toss the problem.

950
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 5: That's the problem.

951
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 12: That's just that's that's modern that's modern art. I mean,

952
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 12: I'm not gonna disagree. Look, I didn't say it was

953
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 12: a good thing. Like people off oftentimes it's funny because

954
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 12: I you know me well enough.

955
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: There are some people in my life that are like

956
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: a cynical cynical. I'm not cynical at all. I'm ever

957
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: the realist.

958
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 12: I look at everything and I'm like, hey, figure out,

959
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 12: Like look at the game, figure out the game play

960
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 12: the game like, I don't.

961
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: I don't see if.

962
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 12: You're like the music industry has changed so much since

963
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 12: I was in it. I don't look at that. And

964
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 12: I'm not the person pounding the top of the piano

965
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 12: that's three feet from me saying, oh.

966
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: My god, uh Spotify needs to go away, Like.

967
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 12: I'm not like, I'm the person when I get asked

968
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 12: all the time about AI taking over music, I'm my god,

969
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 12: it's inevitable. AI pop stars are gonna take over everything.

970
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 12: That doesn't make me cynical. I'm ever the realist, right,

971
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 12: So like, at some point, having a phenomenon is more

972
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 12: important than being good. Scotti Scheffler is very good, he's great,

973
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 12: he's amazing, but nobody will care until he's a phenomenon.

974
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: And he can't be a phenomenon because he's not interesting enough.

975
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 12: Happy Gilmore is the other side of the teeter totter

976
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 12: or the seesaw, depending on where you grew up.

977
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: Happy Gilmore.

978
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 12: Obviously, again, I haven't seen it, but the people that

979
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 12: I know that we're looking forward to it have made

980
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 12: it clear that they felt it was a trash product.

981
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 13: So now you have that's on them, though, don't look

982
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 13: forward to this thing, like you almost have to take it.

983
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I Hey.

984
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 13: That's on you, Like that's on you if you got

985
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 13: yourself excited for Happy Gilmore Too, thinking it's gonna be

986
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 13: anywhere in the same stratosphere as the joy that watching

987
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 13: Adam Sandler punch Bob Barker in the face and then

988
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 13: Bob Barker knocked his ass out brought to all of

989
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 13: America and arguably the world. Okay, that's on you if

990
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 13: you are looking at Anchorman two, Happy Gilmore Too, all

991
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 13: these Lilo and Stitch, but it's the real Lilo and

992
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 13: Stitch is opposed to the cartoon Lee Low and Stich.

993
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 13: Like we're just out of ideas as a creative society,

994
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 13: it seems. So we're just gonna slap a bunch of

995
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 13: famous people in a movie and try and rerun the

996
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 13: old stuff up to see if we can't fool some

997
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 13: people into thinking that this is.

998
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 5: A an original concept.

999
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 13: Now you have to treat these things as completely even

1000
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 13: though it's got a lot of the same cast and

1001
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 13: it's got the same name.

1002
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 5: Like Gladiator two. Gladiator two should be.

1003
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 13: Sent into the sun, all right, Don't think about Gladiator

1004
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 13: when you watch Gladiator two. If you don't, you might

1005
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 13: enjoy Gladiator two a little more unless you.

1006
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 5: Went into that movie thinking.

1007
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 13: Oh, this is going to build upon one of the

1008
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 13: best stories and one of the best movies that we've

1009
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 13: ever seen, and it's gonna blow my mind and oh

1010
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 13: my god, look at that cast.

1011
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 5: And it sucks. All right, If you are going to get.

1012
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 13: Excited about these things, the mistake is yours because you

1013
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 13: cannot try and recreate the magic that the originals brought

1014
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 13: to the game.

1015
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 12: Okay, and you know that I am a Halloween fanatic

1016
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 12: and I love me some horror movies. One of the

1017
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 12: things that I love about the genre of horror is

1018
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 12: that we all know the sequel's gonna suck. So from

1019
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 12: the minute we go in, we're like, I'm embracing the

1020
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 12: fact that this is going to suck, and I'm going

1021
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 12: to find joy in this lesser product. Like I understand

1022
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 12: that Halloween whatever you know, six was not as good

1023
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 12: as Halloween one to me. You know, I understand that

1024
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 12: Halloween four kind of like four, but Halloween. I understand

1025
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 12: that these products are different as you go, right, but

1026
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 12: I don't go in with the expectation that I'm going

1027
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 12: to get the original, Like the original Scream is probably

1028
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 12: my favorite movie of all time. I will still see

1029
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 12: Scream seven, and I know Scream seven is gonna kind

1030
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 12: of suck, but I'm gonna be into it because there's

1031
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 12: nostalgia around Scream. Like, I don't expect greatness. I feel

1032
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 12: like people with Happy Gilmore, we're expecting greatness. And that's

1033
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 12: the problem. And this is, to your point, maybe part

1034
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 12: of the reason that sports continues to dominate the landscape

1035
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 12: and everything we're talking about, because I genuinely think it's

1036
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 12: really hard to create anything new. People give it him about,

1037
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 12: like there has been so much. We're a spot where

1038
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 12: it just feels like wild new idea. When's the last

1039
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 12: time a new scripted sitcom came out? Did everybody just

1040
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 12: absolutely flock to I don't. I don't know, like do.

1041
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: They even still did? They still make them? New?

1042
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 12: New movies are harder and harder for people to care about,

1043
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 12: you know, It's just I don't, I don't know original

1044
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 12: ideas are. It just feels like everything's been done. Maybe

1045
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 12: that's why sports continued to dominate.

1046
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 13: No, they they script the NFL season, haven't you heard?

1047
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 13: That's the greatest scripted sitcom going in America right now.

1048
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 9: You can't.

1049
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 13: It's DVR proof, baby. I love because Christian Wilkins situation.

1050
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 13: You couldn't make this stuff up if you tried. Your

1051
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 13: beloved chat GPT could not come up with as drama

1052
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 13: and as comedically uh comedically funny a situation as your

1053
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 13: beloved Las Vegas Raiders are getting ready to go through

1054
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 13: or are currently going through.

1055
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 12: Which because my my favorite team can't have nice things.

1056
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 12: That's the real thing that I've learned here. Christian Wilkins,

1057
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 12: when he was in Miami, played a higher percentage of

1058
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 12: snaps than any other interior defensive lineman during his time

1059
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 12: there was a model citizen. Was an absolute, oh my god,

1060
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 12: thunder of the Gods player and one of the rare

1061
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 12: times buck that I have in my entire life.

1062
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: Watched my favorite.

1063
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 12: Team acquire somebody and gotten texts from everybody that covers

1064
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 12: the league saying, hey, this is a home run his

1065
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 12: one hundred and ten million dollar contract. It was like, hey,

1066
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 12: this isn't good, this is great. Like big names that

1067
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 12: cover the sport were texting me saying, oh my god,

1068
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 12: you should be overjoyed. Christian Wilkins next to Max Crosby

1069
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 12: is going to be just a damaging defensive line. And

1070
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 12: you've got two guys that never miss plays, you're just

1071
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 12: talking about always on the field. Then what happens last

1072
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 12: year He has a Jones fracture in his foot during

1073
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 12: the course of a game.

1074
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: Also in the same season that Max was so wildly.

1075
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 12: Injured that he missed time for the first time, and

1076
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 12: the two of them never really got going, which is

1077
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 12: part of the reason the defensive line was never particularly

1078
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 12: what people thought it would be on a defense. It

1079
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 12: turned out to be really horrid on a team that

1080
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 12: wasn't as good as expectations, even.

1081
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 1: With low expectations.

1082
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 12: So now imagine my shock this week when Christian Wilkins

1083
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 12: is not only released, but he's released from the Raiders,

1084
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 12: and they do it in a way where they basically

1085
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 12: challenge the guarantees that are remaining on his contract, refusing

1086
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 12: to pay them because of a rehab issue. And this

1087
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 12: boils down book to a team saying we don't believe

1088
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 12: that he was doing the proper things in his rehab process.

1089
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 12: They believe he needed another surgery. He refused the surgery.

1090
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 12: They did not see a way that he was ever

1091
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 12: going to get back on the field, so they cut him.

1092
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 12: They cut a superstar in this league flat out saying

1093
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 12: we don't think this has been done the right way.

1094
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: This is a dangerous.

1095
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 12: Precedent, brother, Like, this is a wild situation where a

1096
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 12: team comes in and says, we want a surgery.

1097
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: You don't want a surgery, we will cut you and

1098
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: we will void all of the guarantees on your contract.

1099
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 12: That's why the NFL Players Association is absolutely fighting this thing,

1100
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 12: because if you start to get into differences of opinion

1101
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 12: on how medical issues should be handled as a reason

1102
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 12: to void guarantees, that is a slippery slope.

1103
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: Down the path of the future of player guarantees.

1104
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 13: Uh yeah, because the NFLPA has got a very proud

1105
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 13: platform to stand on.

1106
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: These days, I'm absolute stupidity.

1107
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 13: Did you just read that JC Tretder interview that Jonathan

1108
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 13: Jones with CBS did. By the way, and I love

1109
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 13: Jonathan Jones. He's a buddy of mine.

1110
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 12: I know a long time, but I don't know, but

1111
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 12: he's getting a box of chocolates a month for the

1112
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 12: rest of his life.

1113
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: He got the Jelly of the Month club from JC

1114
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 1: Tretder because that's fair.

1115
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 13: Anyway, here's a couple of things that I think are

1116
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 13: worth mentioning.

1117
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 11: Here.

1118
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 5: You remember the way that it ended with Kawhi Leonard

1119
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 5: and the Spurs.

1120
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, there was a disagreement about the way that they

1121
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 13: were handling the rehabilitation the Kawhi Leonard needed for his

1122
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 13: knee issues and issues that he's that he's had across

1123
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 13: a period of time. But at some point, and the

1124
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 13: details never really got out there. In Hi Leonard is

1125
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 13: a very very private person, so it probably never will.

1126
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 13: But there was some level of trust between the player

1127
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 13: and the organization that was broken irreparably, and Kawhi Leonard

1128
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 13: made his way out of San Antonio, which we all

1129
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 13: thought from the exterior is a completely stable and well

1130
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 13: run organization and one of a model, a model franchise

1131
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 13: in the world of professional sports. They couldn't possibly have

1132
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 13: done anything wrong here. What's wrong with Kawhi Leonard? What's

1133
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 13: his problem? Who's this uncle Dennis guy that's get it

1134
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 13: making a mess in the middle of all this? It

1135
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 13: was a very very confusing time. And then he goes

1136
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 13: to Toronto, he wins a championship, and I know that

1137
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 13: Kawhi Leonard has not been the model of health for

1138
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 13: the rest of his career, but there was enough to

1139
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 13: make you curious about what went wrong or what he

1140
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 13: felt betrayed by what it is that the Spurs did.

1141
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 13: It never really got out there. This Christian Wilkins thing,

1142
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 13: to me, is a lot more cut and dry because

1143
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 13: it's a new regime. You just hired a new general manager,

1144
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 13: John spytech right, new regime with no connection to the player.

1145
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 5: Shout out Tom.

1146
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 13: Telesco, by the way, for absolutely recon your finances. I

1147
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 13: love when these people get fired and they end up

1148
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 13: on television. I think Tom Tellesco just recently started doing

1149
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 13: stuff for serious XMNFL radio, and I don't know the

1150
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 13: man at all. But it's like when I watched John

1151
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 13: Robinson hosting Good Morning Football and nobody wants to ask

1152
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 13: him about AJ Brown winning in a Super Bowl.

1153
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 5: For the Philadelphia Eagles. I don't want to hear from

1154
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 5: you about anything else. Get off my screen.

1155
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 13: And John is somebody who I like and who I

1156
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 13: enjoyed working with, even though you know it collapsed very

1157
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 13: very quickly here in Tennessee. New regime, no connection to

1158
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 13: the player, that's one there is going to be a

1159
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 13: lot of concern about a Jones fracture, specifically for a

1160
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 13: man that size. That's a difficult thing for a player

1161
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 13: like that to recover from. So the team is going

1162
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 13: to be hyper focused and hyper scrutinized on what they

1163
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 13: believe the proper recovery and rehabilitation and surgical procedures should

1164
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 13: be because it's going to be a bit tenuous for

1165
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 13: an investment that size, for a player that size. And

1166
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 13: I'm guessing FITZI that at some point through the arbitration

1167
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 13: process he gets some of that money back, so I

1168
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 13: don't think he's going to be completely left without a

1169
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 13: dime here. We'll await the findings that the arbitrator comes

1170
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 13: out with, because there's going to be two sides to

1171
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 13: the story. We haven't heard from Christian Wilkins on this.

1172
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 13: The Raiders put out a statement basically saying, Yeah, we

1173
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 13: didn't think this guy was ever going to be able

1174
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 13: to get out on the field, and he wasn't taking

1175
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 13: our medical advice, so we got rid of him.

1176
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 5: I think that's okay.

1177
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: I think that's okay. I think it was the right

1178
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: it was the necessary move.

1179
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 12: I'll tell you why. We'll continue this Christian Wilkins conversation.

1180
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 12: He's buck rising on Jason Fitz. We're hanging out with you.

1181
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:41,040
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1182
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 8: has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch

1183
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,520
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1184
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1185
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 12: Oh, the irony is Big Time Rush is playing tonight

1186
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 12: in Connecticut, thirty minutes from my house.

1187
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: You have to go. Who knew my buddy? My buddy's

1188
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: the drummer on that on that reunion tour. So I

1189
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: have to go. I feel like Big Time Rush?

1190
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 7: And if you go, can you send me video? Please?

1191
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: Are you a Big Time Rush fan? Were they what?

1192
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 7: I'm sorry?

1193
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: Do I know?

1194
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 7: But does everybody know who they are?

1195
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 14: And I don't thank you?

1196
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean like, look, if, by the way, I got

1197
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: the hookup? Who want Big Time Rush ticket? I mean,

1198
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: I feel like I got the hookup for this?

1199
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 12: Oh?

1200
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 13: Is that really the selling point for you to finally

1201
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 13: get me to come visit you in Connecticut. I've got

1202
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 13: no other reason to go to Connecticut, but I got

1203
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 13: Big Time Rush tickets.

1204
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 9: I know the drummer.

1205
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: Maybe you should? You should come.

1206
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,479
Speaker 12: You should come this week because I'm going to see

1207
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 12: Christopher Cross and Toto with Africa, all right. That I mean,

1208
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 12: now that is that's a lot of eighties like I

1209
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 12: mean yacht rock. We could slow dance in the crowd,

1210
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 12: like I think I could even get your side stage

1211
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 12: during Christopher Cross.

1212
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: We could, you know, say anything takes me awake?

1213
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 5: Oh is that Christopher Cross. I had no idea who

1214
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 5: you're talking about there either.

1215
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 13: Toto, I know because shout out Marks go Field, who

1216
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 13: is one of the foremost quarterback bloggers out there in

1217
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 13: the universe, even though I think I don't think Mark's

1218
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 13: still doing NFL draft analysis on a regular basis anyway.

1219
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 13: Big fan of Africa by Toto. But I don't think

1220
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 13: that the thing. I don't think the thing that's going

1221
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 13: to get me to visit you in Connecticut is slow

1222
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 13: dancing to what's the name of the band Big Time Rush?

1223
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 12: Well, I mean Big Time Rush was tonight. You can't

1224
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 12: get here in time for tonight. I'm sitting with little

1225
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 12: big town in a couple of weeks.

1226
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: Humble brag.

1227
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 12: That's a fine. I'm sitting with a little big town

1228
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 12: in Connecticut.

1229
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 5: Blow right now, I can.

1230
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: Come on, dad, was it?

1231
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 5: Then it may take me down to the little Yeah.

1232
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, see that's a banger.

1233
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 5: Cannot have my fine authority you start.

1234
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm sorry, Yes, you can have your fine authority.

1235
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,720
Speaker 1: Usurped and it just happened. I'm just saying, I'm sitting

1236
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: a man.

1237
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 7: You're crapping on a big time rush.

1238
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 3: Like honestly, nobody's telling me who they time rush is that.

1239
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:02,479
Speaker 5: That's a fair point.

1240
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 7: Logan Carlos Kendall and sounds like Abercrombie Boys. They are

1241
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 7: Abercommy Boys.

1242
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1243
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 7: It was a show that came out in Nickelodeon. Oh, Nickelodeon. Yeah,

1244
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 7: and then and then after that they ended up getting

1245
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 7: It's kind of like Hanna Montana, you know how like

1246
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 7: she got big. It's exactly the same.

1247
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 3: Are they like a one direction any kind of thing?

1248
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 7: Yes, but better because they have.

1249
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: One direction is elite.

1250
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 13: Uh, let's not compare anybody to Let's not compare anybody

1251
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 13: to Miley Cyrus.

1252
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 5: Can we not? That's offensive?

1253
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 14: No, I'm just saying the concept of it, not her

1254
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 14: in general versus Nickelodeon.

1255
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen these, No, Nickelodeon all

1256
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: the way.

1257
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 12: I don't know if you've seen these Spotify things with Miley,

1258
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 12: but she went in and did like a Billions Club

1259
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 12: performance for Spotify that it's on YouTube. It is absolutely insane. Like,

1260
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 12: I mean, just kudos to Miley Cyrus. Miley's killing the game.

1261
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 12: I don't care what you say, Buck, like, so if

1262
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 12: you're if I wasn't sure if you're spreading Miley hate

1263
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 12: or not. I was just making sure that we were

1264
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 12: on the same page because Miley uh is a goddess

1265
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 12: at this point.

1266
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: Like, I mean, just just absolutely crushing it.

1267
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,439
Speaker 13: What do you think you're doing by painting me into

1268
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 13: a corner that I'm anti Miley Cyrus? Why come rushing

1269
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 13: to her support? Because Mary compared her to big time Rush.

1270
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,959
Speaker 7: I didn't compare her in that way.

1271
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:21,919
Speaker 5: That's not what the audience heard.

1272
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 11: Mary.

1273
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 7: I just choosing to hear what you want to hear.

1274
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 13: I as sure as hell I am now because if

1275
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 13: you start my fine system, I won't stand for you.

1276
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 7: Whistle for it. No, you're not on the program.

1277
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: Buck got whistled.

1278
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 12: There we go bigger than the program.

1279
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: Oh clip this off and you.

1280
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 5: I just get Christian.

1281
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: You've got Christian Wilkins. I'm sorry, man, we're gonna have

1282
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: to release Buck Rising.

1283
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 5: We are afraid that he is not fully guaranteed nerds.

1284
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god, this is what's happening.

1285
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 7: For that again, it's disrespectful.

1286
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 4: That's fine.

1287
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 5: I'll pay it because I got the money too.

1288
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 10: Oh my god, you're being a LAISTI.

1289
00:58:59,400 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: There we go.

1290
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 12: This is all now, you guys are finding out who

1291
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 12: the real Buck Rising.

1292
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: I feel like this is law and order.

1293
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 12: When the guy on the witness stand finally breaks and

1294
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 12: just starts saying all the things he shouldn't say.

1295
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: That's what's happening.

1296
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 12: You're getting a picture of the real Buck Rising right now.

1297
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 12: And that makes me Jack McCoy, who, by the way,

1298
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 12: might be the biggest badass in television history.

1299
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 13: So my Apple Watch that I just started wearing is

1300
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 13: telling me that I'm yelling too loud because it sent

1301
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 13: me a decibel warning.

1302
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, so we're out there with the Apple Watch.

1303
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: Now they're thank you. This is how's it feel? Buck.

1304
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins gets cut.

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Speaker 9: By the raiders.

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00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: We were talking about that, he's Buck Rising.

1307
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Speaker 12: I'm Jason fitz hanging out with you on Fox Sports Radio,

1308
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 12: and Buck, I think part of this too is you know,

1309
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 12: the team had an idea of the rehab process, Christian

1310
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 12: Wilkins had a different idea. We've explained all of that,

1311
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 12: but I also think that there's a moment of new

1312
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 12: regimes make statements. And I've watched every ounce as a

1313
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 12: Raiders fan of Pete Carroll talking about competitiveness and they

1314
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 12: only want people to want to be there and all

1315
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 12: of these things that every coach says. But you know,

1316
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 12: when you talk to people inside the building, they'll tell

1317
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 12: you it's an electric energy.

1318
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: It's different.

1319
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 12: There is something about it that is transferring and palpable

1320
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 12: in all these things.

1321
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: But I think that there's a statement. This was an easy.

1322
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,959
Speaker 12: Opportunity for the team to simply say, hey, we're going

1323
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 12: to make a statement transaction that tells everybody.

1324
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: We mean business.

1325
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 12: Every new regime sort of does this when you couch

1326
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 12: it under the guys of like, hey, he's not going

1327
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 12: to be ready. They don't think he's going to be

1328
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 12: able to play. The team's statement on it was very

1329
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 12: clear that they believe he's just there's not a path

1330
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 12: to him getting back on the field. We don't know

1331
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 12: how other teams will view it, but I think the

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01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 12: Raiders were also taking an opportunity here to make a

1333
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 12: poignant statement about where they want their franchise.

1334
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 5: To be right now.

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01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 13: Oh sure, And that's what happens every time there's coaching

1336
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 13: turnover or front office turnover. In this case, both John

1337
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 13: spy Tech and Pete Carroll coming in together and replacing you.

1338
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 5: Know what a been I mean, FITZI, I know you're

1339
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 5: a Raiders fan.

1340
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: Be nice, be nice and be nice.

1341
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 13: Well, they're just not terribly well run here in the

1342
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 13: last couple of years.

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01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1344
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 5: I thought that was very diplomatic.

1345
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: I was very well done by you.

1346
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 9: Go ahead.

1347
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 5: Well now I'm worried that I'm gonna get fined.

1348
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 13: I think that it will. At least they are trying

1349
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 13: to send a message, though not just to their organization.

1350
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 5: That statement.

1351
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 13: Is gonna put Christian Wilkins on blast everywhere that he

1352
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 13: has a conversation with next assuming that he wants to

1353
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 13: get back on another roster and compete in twenty twenty.

1354
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 5: Five or if.

1355
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 13: I don't know what the nature of the injury, I mean,

1356
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 13: I know it's a Jones fracture.

1357
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,479
Speaker 5: I don't know how recent when did he get hurt?

1358
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 12: Fits he got hurt Week five or six of last seasons.

1359
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 13: Okay, so it's been an extended period of time at

1360
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 13: this point.

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Speaker 12: They did, they did a procedure on it, and he

1362
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 12: just didn't heal right from the procedure, and then the

1363
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 12: question was does he need a second surgery?

1364
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: And that's where he doesn't want one.

1365
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 12: The team wanted him to get one, They couldn't come

1366
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 12: to an agreement on it, and they just don't. The

1367
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 12: team doesn't believe that his foot has been healing properly

1368
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 12: in a way that without a procedure he's ever going

1369
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 12: to get back on the field that way.

1370
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Speaker 1: What's their stance.

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Speaker 13: Why don't we let Martin update us on what's going

1372
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 13: on in the world of sports, and then we can

1373
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 13: circle back to this, because I do have some thoughts.

1374
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Speaker 10: Right now, we got two of the best teams in

1375
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 10: the American League, the Tigers and the Blue Jays, scoreless

1376
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 10: scouples on the mound for Detroit, top of the sixth

1377
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 10: inning right now, obviously, George Springer at bat. Earlier today,

1378
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 10: we saw the Phillies be the Yankees nine to four.

1379
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 10: Bryce Harper with his fifteenth home run on the year.

1380
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 10: Aaron Judge is on the injured list now with the

1381
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 10: flexer stream. The Royals walked off the Guardians five to

1382
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 10: three on a Jonathan India three one homer in the

1383
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 10: tenth inning. Texans running back at Joe Mixon will be

1384
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 10: out of majority of the preseason with an ankle injury

1385
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 10: and be re evaluated closer to Week one. Tennessee Titans

1386
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 10: rride receiver Trailing Berke stuffered a fraction collar bone during

1387
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 10: open practice today. The Titans also signed v frel If

1388
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 10: you know, you know wide receiver romel Keaton VFL Mark

1389
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 10: vf L. You know what I wrote it down, VFL

1390
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 10: and this lects you struck again. I literally have it

1391
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 10: right here VFL. If you know, you know, trying to

1392
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 10: be funny, and that's what I get. Hand up my bed.

1393
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 10: I try my best. I'm Seana, Michigan fan. I don't

1394
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 10: know anything about the sec football stuff.

1395
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: I respect.

1396
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 9: Speaking of Michigan.

1397
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 10: Johns Man tell us three year contract extension for the

1398
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 10: safety for the Minnesota Vikings. He was a sixth round

1399
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 10: draft pick in twenty twenty, so now he's got thirty six.

1400
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 9: Million coming his way over the next three years.

1401
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 10: The Dolphins signed free agent cornerback Jack Jones and Mike

1402
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 10: Hilton today in the wake of Already Burns tearing his

1403
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 10: acl justin fields. He dislocated his toe on Thursday, but

1404
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 10: back on the field Sat Friday doing some drills. Today

1405
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,439
Speaker 10: he did seven on seven as he works his way

1406
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 10: back to a full workload. Dodgers lead the Red Sox

1407
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 10: two to nothing, Kershaw on the mound in the bottom

1408
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 10: of the first sinning. Tampa Bay and Cincinnati score in

1409
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 10: the fourths, Miami Milwaukee scoreless in the second, the A's

1410
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 10: with a one nothing lead over the Astros, Cubs and

1411
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 10: Socks scoreless and a shydown battle, and the Guardians with

1412
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 10: a one nothing lead over Kansas City in game two

1413
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 10: of a doubleheader. The Braves lead the Rangers won nothing.

1414
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 10: Back to you, guys, he's Buck rising. I'm Jason Fitzwer

1415
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 10: hanging out with you. Is Bucket fits takeover on Fox

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01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 10: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 12: You had some thoughts on Christian Bilkens Buck that I

1418
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 12: want to give you the floor and the opportunity to

1419
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 12: tell everybody, But first you can stream the show and

1420
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 12: all of our Fox Radio shows live twenty four to

1421
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 12: seven and the new and improved iHeartRadio app just search

1422
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 12: Fox Sports Radio in the app and stream US Live

1423
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 12: and one of the newest features in the app, you

1424
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 12: can select Fox Sports Radio is one of your presets,

1425
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 12: just like the preset on a radio dial. So be

1426
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,919
Speaker 12: sure to preset Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app.

1427
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: It'll always pop up at the top of your screen.

1428
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 13: What do you got, brother, Well, I just want to

1429
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 13: read this quote from Pete Carroll because obviously he was

1430
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 13: asked about at the press conference after the statement was

1431
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 13: put out on why they released Christian Wilkins. It took

1432
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 13: a long time to make our decision. We watched our

1433
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 13: way through the whole thing. We're keeping really clear with

1434
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 13: what we said. I think there was no clear path

1435
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 13: to his return, so we just.

1436
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 5: Had to move on.

1437
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Speaker 13: Now what you see happening with NFL organizations, and Pete

1438
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 13: Carroll is one of the best at this, specifically, what

1439
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 13: it is to bring in a culture of success and

1440
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 13: buy in that is required to get fifty three individuals

1441
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 13: on a regular season roster, plus coaches, plus practice squad,

1442
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 13: plus everybody one paying attention to you and moving in

1443
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 13: the right direction. The culture thing is very very nebulous, right.

1444
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 13: It's not something that you can wrap your hands around.

1445
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 13: It's not something quantifiable necessarily. It's something we all talk about.

1446
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 13: We all bring up. Coaches mention it, players mention it.

1447
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 13: But it's really tough to notice unless one you're in

1448
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 13: the meeting rooms and in the locker room and understand

1449
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 13: the dynamic between the players, or two somebody brings it

1450
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 13: to your attention that this is something that clearly lacks it.

1451
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 5: Would you say that the culture of.

1452
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 13: The Raiders organization in the last decade has been one

1453
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 13: of success fits.

1454
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: No, No, it's been a one of hot garbage. Yes.

1455
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 12: Go.

1456
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 13: Would you then agree that Pete Carroll understands what it

1457
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 13: is to create a culture of success, whether it be

1458
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 13: college or proc So I'm not saying that you have

1459
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 13: to trust Pete Carroll here implicitly, but I'm saying that

1460
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 13: they identified something in Christian Wilkins that they didn't feel

1461
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:37,439
Speaker 13: was going to be appropriate for the dynamic that they're

1462
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 13: trying to create between the players, the locker room, and

1463
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 13: the organization. And it doesn't mean that they'll be proven

1464
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 13: right for it, because he is obviously a good player

1465
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 13: and it should be, you know, in coming upon the

1466
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 13: organization to make it work to an extent for a

1467
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 13: certain caliber of player, which Christian Wilkins prior to last year,

1468
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 13: has been for every year of his career, He's been,

1469
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 13: like you said, model citizen in Miami, hugely reductive player.

1470
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 13: I don't know that i'd put him in an elite category,

1471
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 13: but he's obviously above average and was compensated as such.

1472
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 13: So when they're getting pushedback, whatever the pushback look like

1473
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 13: on Christian Wilkins and his team side, on the organization

1474
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 13: and the direction that they're heading, they're looking around and saying.

1475
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Speaker 5: Is it worth it?

1476
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 13: Is this guy so worth it that we could afford

1477
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 13: to get a little worse of defensive tackle on the

1478
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 13: Raiders defense wasn't good by any stretch of the imagination

1479
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 13: last year, Like they're going to have to figure this

1480
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 13: out in a meaningful way, and they did draft what

1481
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 13: two interior defensive linemen this year.

1482
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Speaker 12: They didn't really address the defensive tack like a couple

1483
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 12: of things to your point, they didn't really address the

1484
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 12: defensive tackle position this offseason. And number two, they restructured

1485
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 12: his contract to put a bunch of it into guarantees

1486
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 12: this offseason because they believed they could push some of

1487
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 12: that money right, So that tells you they believe in

1488
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 12: the player at.

1489
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Speaker 1: The time moving forward.

1490
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Speaker 12: Part of the reason too, that we have to acknowledge

1491
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 12: that I think they've come in and they've done it

1492
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 12: this way, is because if he gets on the if

1493
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 12: they believe there's any chance he gets on the field,

1494
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 12: and there's another issue, they're on the hook for even

1495
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 12: more money. I don't think they wanted him, you know.

1496
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Speaker 12: And look, we live this around Tennessee way back in

1497
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 12: the day around certain players that were traded. I think

1498
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 12: it was McNair when he was locked out of the

1499
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 12: Tennessee Titans locker room because hey, they knew he was

1500
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Speaker 12: going to be traded. They didn't want to take a

1501
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 12: chance that he was injured, and so they just cut

1502
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 12: him off there, right, Like, I think you got to

1503
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 12: look at this if you're the Raiders.

1504
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Speaker 1: They restructured his.

1505
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 12: Deal in the offseason to give him more as a

1506
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 12: signing bonus now and it changed all the money, and

1507
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 12: then they see that this isn't healing, and they see

1508
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 12: all of these pieces come together. I don't think they

1509
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 12: expected this to happen, but at some point you got

1510
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 12: to look at it and say, well, dang, we're going

1511
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 12: to cut our losses.

1512
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,759
Speaker 1: It screams cut our losses in this situation.

1513
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Speaker 12: And the fact that they did it in a way

1514
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 12: that they're fighting for that money to not be paid

1515
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 12: shows you they didn't want to get him on the field.

1516
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 12: They didn't want to take the chance to hear at

1517
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Speaker 12: the footgain, they didn't want to change take the chance.

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Speaker 12: They owed him more guarantees, and I just I genuinely

1519
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 12: believe they don't think that he is either going to

1520
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 12: play or be of version of Christian Wilkins that they

1521
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 12: thought they were getting from day.

1522
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 5: One, which is fair.

1523
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 13: And this is the biggest problem when it comes to

1524
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 13: and you know, I wouldn't pretend to be a scout

1525
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 13: or an NFL personnel executive or a general manager or

1526
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 13: anything like that, but you and I have both worked

1527
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 13: around enough of them and talked to enough of them

1528
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 13: on a regular basis that at least you get a

1529
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 13: semblance of how it should be or how in a

1530
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 13: perfect world, they would like for it to go when

1531
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 13: they're putting together their version of what they want a

1532
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 13: team to look like.

1533
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 5: It's the problem when you try to or when you.

1534
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 13: Try to buy essentially a roster to get it back

1535
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 13: to a certain place. I just witnessed the Tennessee Titans

1536
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 13: spend two hundred and twenty eight million dollars around with

1537
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 13: Levis last year to be the worst team in football

1538
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 13: for all the good at did them. Calvin Ridley, Jerious need,

1539
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 13: Lloyd Kushenberry, Kenneth Murray Cheetosi. Two of those three players

1540
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 13: or two of those players aren't even on the roster anymore.

1541
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 13: Snead has played five games and looked objectively bad after

1542
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 13: being a two time Super Bowl champion and arguably one

1543
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 13: of the best corners in football in the Kansas City

1544
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 13: Chiefs roster and Calvin Ridley was a product of bad

1545
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 13: quarterback plays. So I'm not out on Calvin by any

1546
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 13: stretching the imagination, but organically regenerating a roster is really

1547
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 13: the only way to do this, because once you start

1548
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 13: paying at the top end of the market in free

1549
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 13: agency to supplement what you don't have, you run the

1550
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 13: risk of something like this happened because you're paying Christian

1551
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 13: Wilkins for what he did in Miami. If you're Vegas

1552
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 13: and now you're worried about all the different things that

1553
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 13: could happen with Christian Wilkins, when he starts to get

1554
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 13: up there in age, when his body starts to depreciate

1555
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 13: a little bit, all of a sudden he's missing games.

1556
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 13: He's never missed games in his career. But as soon

1557
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 13: as he gets to Vegas, he's out six five, six

1558
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 13: weeks in, as you mentioned, or whatever point in the

1559
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 13: season it was. And then you have to take the

1560
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 13: finances into consideration, be.

1561
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 5: Like, okay, this is one. This is not my son cost.

1562
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 13: If I'm John Spytech, I'm looking rather Tom tellsco got fired.

1563
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 13: This is not something that I want on my books

1564
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 13: moving forward, because I'm trying to draft organically develop player

1565
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 13: as a result and retain the ones that are worth

1566
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 13: retaining and if they aren't, keep cycling through. In a

1567
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 13: perfect world, it very rarely has happens that way, and

1568
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 13: we know that the draft is an imperfect science, but

1569
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 13: Christian Wilkins is not. I wouldn't call him the poster

1570
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 13: child for this is just the most recent example of

1571
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 13: the NFL decision makers are going to handle these things

1572
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 13: as cutthroat as humanly possible when the money starts to

1573
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 13: get that large, because they need those resources dedicated elsewhere.

1574
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 12: Which is why I will remind everybody here thousand percent right,

1575
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 12: the way you build your team to be better. If

1576
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 12: you're a fan of a team that sucks, the only

1577
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 12: way you're gonna get consistently better, not just have one

1578
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 12: big year where suddenly win ten games and you shock

1579
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 12: the world, but consistently good. You got to consistently nail

1580
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 12: the draft. And I will remind everybody every single second

1581
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 12: you're spending right now looking at upcoming free agency is

1582
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 12: a waste of your time because this year, particularly in

1583
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 12: the offseason, the NFL was stunned. Teams were stunned by

1584
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 12: where the salary cap actually landed. It came in so

1585
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 12: much higher. So what does that mean. That means that

1586
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 12: every single fan that sat there and said, yeah, but

1587
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 12: in two years we get all this salary cap money

1588
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 12: and that's all we're gonna read this team. That's the

1589
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 12: dumbest thing you can ever bank on. Because at the

1590
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 12: end of the day, teams get the money to be

1591
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 12: able to keep the players they want to keep. That

1592
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 12: happens every single time. So if you're sitting here looking

1593
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 12: at it and saying, well, look at all the money

1594
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 12: we're going to have available to spend two years in

1595
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 12: the salary cap. That's the dumbest exercise ever because the

1596
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 12: good players are kept. There's enough money now onder the

1597
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 12: salary cap for good teams to keep their good players.

1598
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 12: So I know that we live in a nose epics society.

1599
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 12: Everybody just wants a shot that makes them lose a

1600
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 12: bunch of weight. But the way you do it is

1601
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 12: like long term, you just got to go in and

1602
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 12: do the work year after year after year after year.

1603
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 1: That's that's the simplest solution.

1604
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 13: Remember what we talked about earlier with training camp highlights

1605
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 13: and more access to information actually making people dumber instead

1606
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 13: of smarter. Yeah, armchair GMing is a case in point

1607
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 13: in the middle of all that. It has to drive

1608
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 13: executives in the NFL insane.

1609
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 12: Yeah, a thousand percent. And again I'll go back to

1610
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 12: old man like, it wasn't that long ago. People didn't

1611
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 12: even really understand what a GM did, and now everybody's

1612
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 12: prepared to be a GM in the NFL. It's wild,

1613
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 12: all right, It is time for the single greatest game

1614
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 12: show in the history of sports talk radio. Would you

1615
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 12: rather coming up next? It's Bucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio.

1616
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 12: He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz it's bucking fits hanging

1617
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 12: out with him on Fox Sports Radio on Fox Sports Saturday.

1618
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 12: Had a blast hanging out with you a lot this summer.

1619
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 12: Hopefully you guys have gotten the chance to hang out

1620
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 12: with us a lot of different times that we've been on.

1621
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 12: But if you've hung out with us at all, you

1622
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 12: know we end every single show the same way with

1623
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 12: the single greatest game show in the history of sports

1624
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 12: talk radio.

1625
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: Buck Are you ready for this? We're gonna try and

1626
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: do it in synchronicity. Are you ready?

1627
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:42,520
Speaker 5: Let's do it.

1628
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 1: It's time for what you rather? Did we get it?

1629
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1630
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 7: I got it?

1631
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1632
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 12: I thought that was good. All right, brig He's gonna

1633
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 12: give us a question. You'll decide, we'll decide would be rather?

1634
01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 12: I say, You've got to be very careful when you

1635
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 12: say bucket or fits it. Somehow we managed to never

1636
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 12: screw that up.

1637
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 13: Also, why am I the guy in the imaging that

1638
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 13: bucket means, oh, that's no good, Like I'm some kind

1639
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 13: of well.

1640
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 12: Because you're an elitist, because you are a one percenter

1641
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 12: that I'm just.

1642
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 5: Trying to shame me for being a one percenter. I said,

1643
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 5: I rather enjoy it.

1644
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1645
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 12: Not only is he an elitist, but he's a proud elitist.

1646
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 12: That is a very weird space to be in. Bre

1647
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 12: all right, give us a question, we'll figure out what

1648
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 12: we rather.

1649
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 7: Are you ready?

1650
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah?

1651
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 7: Okay?

1652
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 14: Would you rather have to wear a tuxedo to bed

1653
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 14: every night or pajamas to every formal event for the

1654
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 14: rest of your life?

1655
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 13: Oh see, now pajamas is the correct answer. But I

1656
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 13: don't feel I feel like I would be going astray

1657
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,799
Speaker 13: from my elitist personality if I said that, I wouldn't

1658
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 13: be willing to wear a tuxt to bed every night.

1659
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 13: What if it's a tuxedo t shirt type of pajama?

1660
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 13: Can I get away with that?

1661
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? So would you rather?

1662
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 5: Okay?

1663
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 1: I mean, like, don't you me? And the answer clearly is.

1664
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 12: And by the way, I'm weirded out by the fact

1665
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 12: that both of you say pajama hamma.

1666
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 7: I've never heard pajama.

1667
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: I've always heard pajama.

1668
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 13: Don't take his word for being the actual pronunciation is

1669
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 13: two against one.

1670
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: Here break jama. No, I say pajama jama. That's just

1671
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,520
Speaker 1: the three one pajama.

1672
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 5: The fine systems back on my side.

1673
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 12: I would always take the pjs. There is nothing less

1674
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 12: comfortable than a tuxedo. By the way, tuxedos suck. I've

1675
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 12: worn them so many times in my life, humble brag.

1676
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 12: They are not comfortable.

1677
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:28,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's come on.

1678
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 12: If you grow up playing classical music, you wait like

1679
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 12: you wear tux I wore my first touch when.

1680
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 1: I was like six.

1681
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 3: How many tuxes do you own?

1682
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 1: Currently? One? But yeah, for most of my have three

1683
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 1: oh three? What do you Batman? Well, Bruce Wayne over there, like,

1684
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 1: what are you going to where you need a tuxedo?

1685
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 7: Barney is a Buckmobile?

1686
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 13: Barney from harm I do have the Buckmobile and it

1687
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 13: does kind of look like the batmobile.

1688
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 5: Sugar Sugars, he's the best.

1689
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 7: Wow, I'm okay.

1690
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 14: So I just heard that there's a wheel involved, So

1691
01:15:59,000 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 14: I'm sorry.

1692
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: The kid's been the wheel.

1693
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yeah, oh.

1694
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 5: Delightful.

1695
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 7: Okay.

1696
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 14: Would you rather have a pet parrot that roasts your

1697
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 14: outfit daily or a cat that critiques you're cooking out loud?

1698
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 15: Like Gordon Ramsey, I'm gonna take the pet parrot and

1699
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 15: it says something about my outfit because I I basically.

1700
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 12: Wear the same thing every day, So I would get

1701
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 12: used to it, like I I literally have eight of

1702
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 12: the same black T shirt, Like there's no variety in

1703
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 12: my wardrobe.

1704
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 13: You would test the parent's ability to try and come

1705
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 13: up with different roasts when you're just wearing the same outfit.

1706
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 5: That's funny.

1707
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 12: What's the pair gonna say that's a different than yesterday?

1708
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 12: Oh wow, you're wearing a black shorts and a black

1709
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 12: T shirt Like that's all I ever wear, So you

1710
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 12: know I'm.

1711
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: I'm in on the parrot. Plus, cats just suck. Everything

1712
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 1: about cats.

1713
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 5: Suck you.

1714
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 9: Take it back.

1715
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 13: Wars have been started for less fits because the idea

1716
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 13: that Francis my cat would grab me by the face

1717
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 13: like Gordon Ramsey does and say, what are you an

1718
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 13: idiot sandwich while I'm making my breakfast would only make

1719
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 13: me love her more.

1720
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,959
Speaker 1: Francis Francis the cat God, You're a one percenter?

1721
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 3: What did cats judy you?

1722
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 1: Fits?

1723
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 4: Like what?

1724
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 3: I don't understand people.

1725
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 5: I grew up on piano benchity salty about it.

1726
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 12: I've had some condescending cats in my life, but no,

1727
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 12: it's more just a general like cats think they're better

1728
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 12: than you and everything, and every time you walk in

1729
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 12: the road, they're like you're lucky to have me here,

1730
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 12: and then you got to scoop their poop, like come

1731
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 12: out on all of them rejecting, or.

1732
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 13: Or you be one and you get one of these

1733
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 13: eight hundred dollars letter robots that does it for you.

1734
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 12: Yeah, until the until the cat decides when they're older

1735
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 12: that they're just gonna poop wherever they want.

1736
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna have this a week.

1737
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 12: Hit me when your cat hits fifteen and suddenly it's

1738
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 12: just like tinkling all over your room. And then, let

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01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 12: let me know, like the cat pee. Oh, you can't

1740
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 12: get rid of that smell.

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01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 5: It's a smell.

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01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 1: There's nothing cats to do that, Like, I know, there's

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01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 1: not not.

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Speaker 5: A s I will stand for the slander. Spin the

1745
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 5: wheel or don't we all need some WD forty at

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01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 5: a little slow on a drawback there?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 14: I would you rather get suck doing the wave alone

1749
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 14: in a full stadium or be caught on the kiss

1750
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 14: cam next to your bus?

1751
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 7: Oh that's a.

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01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,919
Speaker 13: So so this is a cold place CEO type of situation.

1753
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 5: I oh, but that you know what that guy's gonna

1754
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 5: he had to resign and disgrace or whatever.

1755
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 13: But well, you know that dude's gonna start a podcast

1756
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 13: and make millions, and so he's got a hot tour

1757
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 13: his way to the top.

1758
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 5: No pun intended.

1759
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 12: I've done the wave alone in the statement doesn't bother me,

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01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 12: Like I'm all in on that. Like you've ever been

1761
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 12: to a Vandy football game, you might do the wave alone.

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01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 13: So like, but that's that's not because nobody wants to

1763
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 13: do the way. That's because nobody historically until Diego Pavia

1764
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 13: has been in Vanderbilt football staff.

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01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 12: Vandy's the only football stadium I've ever been told to

1766
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 12: sit down in because I was standing up.

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01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, like, there we go.

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01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 5: This some old man trying to read the newspaper.

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01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 13: Behind you while a football game is going on in

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01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 13: front of you.

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01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 12: They were very I was like ten rows off the

1772
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 12: field too, and I was told to sit down.

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01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 1: Never sit down.

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Speaker 12: When you listen to Fox Sports Radio, we're always having

1775
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 12: a good time. Shout out to Brie and to Mary

1776
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 12: for making the show sound good and for dealing with

1777
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 12: Buck because he's insufferable. He's the worst. Go see Big

1778
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 12: Time Rush tonight if you're in Connecticut. Thanks for hanging

1779
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 12: out with Buck Rising. Jason fitz Keeping on Fox Sports

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01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 12: Radio all not Long have a good weekend.