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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, it's a big day on a Tuesday. Here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

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Speaker 2: And it is the day that a lot of players

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Speaker 2: have the most angst they will have all season long.

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Speaker 2: It is cut down day, as the roster is reduced

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Speaker 2: to fifty three players, has to be done by four

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Speaker 2: pm today, and I remember, we'll see who's standing.

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Speaker 3: I was waiting around, yes, my rookie year, ninth round

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Speaker 3: draft pick, waiting. Just knew I was gonna get called.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I like, there's no way I'm gonna make

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Speaker 3: this team. I just it was too it's too good,

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Speaker 3: too much to ask for.

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Speaker 1: So I called.

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Speaker 3: I called the secretary that I said, uh, are they

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Speaker 3: gonna want to see me?

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Speaker 1: Or what's the deal?

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Speaker 3: And she goes, she goes Steve, she goes, Hi, Steve,

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Speaker 3: I go, are they gonna want to see me today?

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Speaker 1: Or she goes, what, Oh no, she goes, I've seen

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Speaker 1: the list.

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Speaker 4: You're okay.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what, okay, that's what I want to know.

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Speaker 2: I'm not cutting.

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Speaker 1: I am not cut. And that's how I found out.

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Speaker 2: You took the bull by the horns. You made a fish?

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna cut me?

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Speaker 2: What's the deal? What is the deal?

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Speaker 3: But uh, it's it's rough, man, it is really rough.

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Speaker 3: And there's the whole league is replete with stories that

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Speaker 3: it that it went all wrong and they you know,

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Speaker 3: they should somebody should have told a kid, and somebody

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Speaker 3: didn't and they did, they didn't, and it's.

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Speaker 1: Just it's just it's rough. Yeah, I fire thirty. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're cutting your workforce in half.

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Speaker 2: From what I've learned, a lot of teams spread this around.

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Speaker 2: Like back in the old days, there used to be

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Speaker 2: the turk, you know, the guy that would come in

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Speaker 2: the locker room and tell you, hey, coach wants to

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Speaker 2: see you.

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Speaker 5: Bring your playbook.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but from what I understand, coaching staffs kind of

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Speaker 2: spread that wealth a little bit because no one guy

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Speaker 2: should have to you know what I mean. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how they do it here. I would

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Speaker 3: think that a coach they're trying, they're trying to be leaders,

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Speaker 3: and the coach who has the best relationship with the

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Speaker 3: player says, I'll do it, give it to me, and.

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Speaker 2: Then your head coach may still want to say if.

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Speaker 3: You were, and absolutely Sean would want to we'll touch

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Speaker 3: basically depending on his relationship with these He tries to

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Speaker 3: have a relationship with everybody in the building. But you

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Speaker 3: know that's you know, sometimes impossible to have do in

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Speaker 3: of course, over in short months. But yeah, they handle

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Speaker 3: it as humane as possible. They're you know, because they're

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Speaker 3: human beings too, And Sean has told us because the

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Speaker 3: the worst three days of the season of the year,

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Speaker 3: but we'll find some things out.

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Speaker 2: We will, indeed, So as we mentioned, final cuts have

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Speaker 2: to be in by four PM to get the roster

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Speaker 2: down to fifty three and then players that are not

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Speaker 2: vested veterans will go on waivers for twenty four hours

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Speaker 2: and they can be claimed by any other team at

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Speaker 2: that point in time. And then after twenty four hours,

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Speaker 2: if players clear waivers, they can be signed to Buffalo's

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Speaker 2: practice squad if Buffalo would like to keep them in

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Speaker 2: that capacity. So what's been reported out there so far

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Speaker 2: in terms of player releases for the Bills are quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: Shane Bouchelle and Mike White, return candidate Leviscus Shenault, veteran

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Speaker 2: corner Dane Jackson, undrafted rookie center Jacob Bear, linebacker Jimmy Charlow,

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Speaker 2: Kwon Hardy, guard Mike Edwards, offensive tackle Travis Clayton, the

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Speaker 2: International Pathway player, guard, center Dan Feeney, linebacker Eddie Ulafotio,

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Speaker 2: and wide receiver kJ Hamler. Those are the reported player releases.

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Speaker 2: Nothing has come down from the team as of yet.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, we wouldn't anticipate that until

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Speaker 2: was signed to Buffalo's active roster per the NFL Transaction Wire,

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Speaker 2: but it's anticipated that he will be transitioned to the

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Speaker 2: practice squad once it is formed tomorrow. So that's kind

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Speaker 2: of what's going on as far as Bill's releases are

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Speaker 2: concerned in terms of reports that are out there on

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Speaker 2: certain players. Now, let's go around the NFL, and we're

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Speaker 2: not going to give you every cut that's out there.

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Speaker 2: That would take way too long, so we'll kind of

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Speaker 2: give you the nuts and bolts. Two Buffalo free agents

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Speaker 2: have finally found homes for the twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 2: Rasul Douglas was signed by Miami to a one year,

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Speaker 2: which has been a patchwork group to say the least.

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Speaker 2: Out in Las Vegas, wide receiver Amari Cooper reunites with

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Speaker 2: the club that drafted him back in twenty sixteen, signing

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Speaker 2: a one year deal with the Raiders worth three million dollars.

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Speaker 2: A lot of trades taking place in the NFL over

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Speaker 2: the last twenty four hours as teams looked to phill

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Speaker 2: holes that their current roster was unable to fill. With

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Speaker 2: the Raiders losing backup quarterback Aidan O'Connell for at least

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Speaker 2: half the season to a broken wrist, Las Vegas acquired

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Speaker 2: quarterback Kenny Pickett from the Browns for a fifth round pick. So,

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Speaker 2: if you remember the Browns traded with Philideli, they traded

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Speaker 2: they made the similar trade flipping him to Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: So now the Browns are down to three healthy quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: the two rookies and Joe Flacco. Meanwhile, Cleveland acquired offensive

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Speaker 3: That's as far out as you can go. You can't

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Speaker 1: Push it down the road.

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Speaker 2: Now whatever, Seahawks are sending offensive tackle Michael Jarrell to

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Speaker 2: twenty seven, so as we suspect it, offensive tackles are

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Speaker 2: in demand, and we were wondering if the Bills, who

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Speaker 2: But nothing as of yet. Our action from the Browns

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Speaker 2: as they are releasing wide receiver Deontay Johnson. Johnson was

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Speaker 2: obviously did not make the cut. That is the eighth

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Speaker 1: Might be over for something in there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bengals released quarterback Desmond Ritter. Some other notable names

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Speaker 2: who were released today according to reports, the Commanders released

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Speaker 2: as he goes to reserve non football injury list to

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Speaker 2: signed Nick Chubb in free agency was coming back from

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Speaker 2: like his fourth knee and which is amazing in and

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Speaker 2: of itself. Carolina released former Bills draft pick Boogie Basham

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Speaker 2: and this was perhaps steve the most interesting news of

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Speaker 2: the day out of Seattle, where head coach Mike McDonald

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Speaker 2: said backup quarterback Jaln Milroe, the rookie out of Alabama,

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Speaker 2: will have plays in the weekly game plan this season

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Speaker 2: and that he will rep those plays with the starters

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Speaker 2: each practice week. So even though Sam Darnold is the starter,

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Speaker 2: there will be a package of plays for Milroe almost

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Speaker 2: every week or for an opponent to prepare for. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he's a ridiculous athlete.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, He's like a Lamar type guy, so he can

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Speaker 3: do it. That's I think it's smart. You got to

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Speaker 3: like three plays right a game and if they're first down,

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Speaker 3: if they come in and you can pick it up, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm all about I think it's a smart move. Teams

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Speaker 3: and by having a backup quarterback who can give you

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Speaker 3: a package of plays in situational football, and a lot

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Speaker 3: of teams will tell you that situational football is where

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Speaker 3: it's at. Like your short yardage package, when you got

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Speaker 1: How do you who do you put on the field.

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Speaker 3: If you've got a goal line package where it's second, first, second,

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Speaker 3: you have a package all of that specialized stuff, third

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Speaker 3: and extra long, you know, third and ten plus situational football.

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Speaker 2: If you got a guy, yeah, he's a much bigger

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Speaker 2: threat on a Reid option than Sam Jarnold is. Sam

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Speaker 2: can't run not well, right, But like Jalen Milroe.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but Jalen Miller Row can't.

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Speaker 3: Throw as well as not an accurate, but you still

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Speaker 3: Jalen Milroe, he you still got to cover those five

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Speaker 3: But that's a smart move. I think I think more

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Speaker 1: Back in the day.

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Speaker 3: Star players don't like it because you know you're gonna

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Speaker 3: sit down. Are you gonna sit down, Dan Marino so

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Speaker 3: you can put in Jalen Milroe so you can run

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Speaker 3: the football maybe to Marino's You know, Kelly's not having it.

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Speaker 3: You know, those guys they just won't do it, forget it.

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Speaker 3: So you don't want that kind of problem in your

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Speaker 2: So if and when other reported player releases come out,

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Speaker 2: players like Max Harston, Cedric Van Pran Granger. Are they

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Speaker 2: before the four pm deadline. So we'll keep you abreast

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Speaker 2: of all of that as the afternoon unfolds. Topic of

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Speaker 2: discussion for you today is pretty simple and pretty straightforward,

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Speaker 2: and it's basically asking you about this Bill's roster. We

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Speaker 2: don't know what its final fifty three man iteration and

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Speaker 2: a pretty good idea who's going to be on this

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Speaker 2: five point fifty one, eight eight eight, five point fifty two,

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Speaker 2: five fifty those are the numbers to join us, and

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Speaker 2: we do have open lines for you there right now,

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Speaker 2: so you want to chime in, feel free. I realize

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Speaker 2: that injuries have thinned the roster. At some points during

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Speaker 3: But that because of them nagging, injury and the bug

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Speaker 2: Is the Bills roster deep enough? You tell us at

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Speaker 2: According to all these reported cuts that have taken place

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Speaker 3: It seems more and more that the coaching staff was

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Speaker 2: Yea, let's go to the phones at eight O threeh

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Speaker 6: What's up, Cindy, Hi, Chris, I see, thanks you guys,

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Speaker 6: they're doing an amazing job. You really inform us. I

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Speaker 6: just wanted your opinion on the waving of Shane Bouchelle

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Speaker 3: He was getting some opportunities that we didn't really see

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Speaker 1: You want to know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, I know Charlo was a big

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Speaker 2: to Mike in Rochester. What's up, Mike, guys.

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Speaker 8: I want to ask you, did anyone read the article

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Speaker 8: Well, the article basically was saying that there was an

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Speaker 8: Shiloh when he was in high school had to shuffle

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't I'm not sure about the veracity of

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Speaker 3: Shiloh's gonna make that he was an undrafted rookie.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he got released by Tampa Bay yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was released yesterday.

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Speaker 10: What's up Kevin, Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 10: Two things I worry about when it comes that. First

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Speaker 10: was cringing. Not the myss them may better keep an

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Speaker 9: He just doesn't.

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Speaker 10: He knows how to win games. He's not a starter

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kenny Pickett didn't do very well for Pittsburgh either,

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Speaker 2: a plus seven on the play when it should have

435
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Speaker 2: been minus five for a sack. That was the first

436
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 2: time I had seen second reaction throws for Mitch Trubisky

437
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 2: to make plays since he was in a Bear's uniform,

438
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: and that to me was the overriding difference that I

439
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 2: felt gave him a leg up over Mike White in

440
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Speaker 2: that competition.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and as for the veracity of the position at all,

442
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 3: if you're playing your backup, it's hopefully because you're up

443
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 3: three touchdowns in the second half of the game, well

444
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Speaker 3: like it was last year. If they have to play

445
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: extended time, start a couple of games, or finish whatever,

446
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to win games completely differently than they

447
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 3: do with josh taking snaps, and they're gonna it's gonna

448
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 3: take them a minute to figure that out.

449
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: How they're gonna do that. I'm not saying it's.

450
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Speaker 3: All it's lost but it's a massive void at the

451
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Speaker 3: top of your food chain that you're gonna have to

452
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Speaker 3: fill somehow, and neither Mitch Trubisky or Mike White, or

453
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Speaker 3: Shane Bouchelle or all of them together are gonna be

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Speaker 3: able to fill it. You're gonna have to do it

455
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Speaker 3: with the with the others on the roster. So yeah,

456
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Speaker 3: you can. You can wring your hands over the quality

457
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Speaker 3: of the backup quarterback if you want.

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Speaker 1: It's pointless.

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Speaker 2: As for Tyler Bass, I think you also have to

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Speaker 2: take what he did the other night with a grain

461
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Speaker 2: of salt. Excuse me, he hadn't. He hadn't kicked field

462
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Speaker 2: goals with a three step approach for the better part

463
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Speaker 2: of three weeks, So let him knock the rust off first.

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Speaker 2: He only missed one. I thought power for a guy

465
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Speaker 2: coming off injury was relatively good. Coach McDermott told me

466
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Speaker 2: that the max distance they were gonna allow him to

467
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Speaker 2: kick from was forty eight. I think forty was the

468
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Speaker 2: longest one that he kicked in the game. And Coach

469
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Speaker 2: McDermott didn't say, yeah, he's good to go, everything's fine,

470
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Speaker 2: We're off we go. He said that was a step

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Speaker 2: we took a step in a positive direction. So by

472
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Speaker 2: no means is you know Tyler completely cured. You know,

473
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Speaker 2: it's going to be, like a lot of other things

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Speaker 2: around here, a process, and I think they're committed to

475
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Speaker 2: that process. And evidence of that was the release of

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Speaker 2: Cayden Davis last week, the kicker who had been kicking

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Speaker 2: in his absence. So we'll see where it goes. And

478
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Speaker 2: I'll remind you Justin Tucker is no longer the kicker

479
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: of Baltimore ravens Kevin. It is a rookie by the

480
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Speaker 2: name of Tyler Loop who has a monster leg. He's

481
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Speaker 2: a rookie. So we'll see what happens if it proves

482
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Speaker 2: to be a tight game in week one. Got to

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Speaker 2: take a break here, but more of your phone calls

484
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Speaker 2: when we come back. Is the Bill's roster deep enough?

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Speaker 2: You tell us at eight oh three oh five fifty

486
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Speaker 2: next here on One Bill's Live. Stay with us. Right

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Speaker 2: back here on One Bill's Live on Roster cutdown today,

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and there is other

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Speaker 2: news in the NFL. Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift are engaged.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations, that's awesome. Good for them.

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Speaker 2: Do with that, what you will.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy for him.

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Speaker 2: Come on, that's nice. We all know that Taylor Swift

494
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: has written numerous songs about failed relationships, so maybe this will.

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Speaker 1: Be uh well, maybe it won't be.

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00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 2: Maybe this will be a song that you know, goes

497
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Speaker 2: in the other direction. Song or two probably or three

498
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: or four. They let's spill out of.

499
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Speaker 1: Her brain, let them, let them be happy.

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Speaker 2: I have a problem with it. How many how many?

501
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: How many people in the NFL offices are doing cartwheels

502
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 2: right now? Yeah, that's because that's crossover fandom right there.

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Speaker 2: You know, all those Swifties that were watching games for

504
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: weeks on end if they could get a glimpse of

505
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: her on TV at the Gamely you had people that

506
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: were never watching football before watching football because of her.

507
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: Whatever.

508
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool, expanding the audience.

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Speaker 1: I do not have a problem with any of that.

510
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: No, neither do I.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just know there.

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Speaker 1: People are human beings, man.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for that public service message.

514
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: You got to remember that people are human beings.

515
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: That means, yeah, people like Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey

516
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 3: are real humans. Yes, and they you know, they may

517
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 3: have good luck to them, What are they going to do.

518
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, here, think about it.

519
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: They could have the wedding under the ceremony.

520
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: The whole world is that they could like open a

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00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 3: club in Vegas, or they could like move to the

522
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: country and raise kids and never be hurt and withdraw

523
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: from public life.

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Speaker 1: The whole spectrum is open to them.

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00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: It has largely been said that this is going to

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Speaker 2: be Travis Kelsey's final season.

527
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I get that, it looks like it

528
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: could be. You know, he'll tell us when it's time.

529
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 3: But you know that's what you know. They can do

530
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: whatever they want right live wherever they want.

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Speaker 2: They're independently wealthy, no question about that.

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Speaker 11: Sure.

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Speaker 2: I mean Taylor Swift, I think is a billionaire now.

534
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: I mean her tour thing made a billion dollars for

535
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Speaker 2: as long as she was doing it. All right, go back, Yeah,

536
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: we got to get back to after the topic of conversation.

537
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 5: We got a little side tracked.

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00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, think about this. With the Browns, they traded Kenny

539
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: Picket away to the Ragers for a fifth pick, fifth

540
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: round pick, right, they like in next year's draft, They've.

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Speaker 1: Got ten picks, oh yeah.

542
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 3: Two first, a second, third, fourth, two five's, two six's

543
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Speaker 3: and A seven.

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Speaker 2: Gotta make them count.

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Speaker 1: They yeah, they They've got a ton of picks coming

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Speaker 1: up in next year's draft. They do indeed, Well, we'll see. Uh.

547
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Speaker 1: It's it's not all.

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Speaker 5: You wonder if any of those picks would be a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They just drafted two, maybe three of them. You just

550
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: never know what the Browns, you just never know.

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00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 10: Uh.

552
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: But let's we gotta get back to the phones because

553
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: we've got people waiting patiently there as we're asking you today.

554
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: Is the Bills roster deep enough? In your eyes? Eight

555
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: oh three, five fifteen the number to jump on board.

556
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: We go to Alex down in Charlotte. What's up Alex?

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Speaker 12: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. When I think

558
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 12: about depth, I know a lot of people have called

559
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 12: and talked about backup quarterback Steve. You've said at time

560
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 12: and time again, if Josh goes down, I'm not really

561
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 12: worried about who's behind them, because it's not Josh Allen.

562
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 12: Looking at the rest of the roster, I'm really happy

563
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 12: with the depth. I had called for the draft and

564
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 12: talked about the need for playable depths, especially in the secondary,

565
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 12: and I think overall Bean has done it. I know

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Speaker 12: We're a little banged up with Trey White and Max Harrison,

567
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 12: but when they come back and you look at the

568
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 12: people in those positions who may actually have to take

569
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Speaker 12: the field, I feel pretty confident in it. I feel

570
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 12: like we're deep on the offensive side of the ball.

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00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 12: The offense is going to have to carry the defense

572
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 12: for a few games while they get healthy and figure

573
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Speaker 12: some stuff out. But overall, I think Bean's done a

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00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 12: great job. I feel like Bill's fans should not be

575
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 12: worried about this roster. It's a championship roster once again.

576
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 12: Just give them some time to work out some kinks.

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00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 12: Thanks for taking my call, guy.

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Speaker 2: Yep, thanks for the call, Alex.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is a good roster. It's a really

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Speaker 1: good roster.

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Speaker 3: And I get asked all the time, you know how

582
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: it's it gonna I don't know how it's gonna end,

583
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: but they're this team has every reason to and his

584
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: is where I'm at. Are they gonna be right there again?

585
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: They're gonna be right there again. And I've been saying

586
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,239
Speaker 3: it for year after year. After you you've heard it.

587
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: They gotta win their last game. They gotta win their

588
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: last game. That's what it's gonna come down to and

589
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 3: if they can do that, then all their hopes and

590
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 3: dreams will come true because they're gonna be right there

591
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: in contention again. So whether I don't even care if

592
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 3: they just get in on a wild card or win

593
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 3: the division, get the one seed, they're gonna be in

594
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,479
Speaker 3: that tournament again. And they gotta they're gonna play. They

595
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: gotta play well on that day. That's where we're at.

596
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 3: And this point is of history with the Buffalo Bills

597
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: and their roster. This this roster has been good enough

598
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 3: for years to do it, and we've seen it and this,

599
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: that and the other thing have gone wrong at the

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Speaker 3: very end of the very last game. If you can

601
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: get through without having that happen, you're you're going to

602
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 3: You're gonna keep playing.

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Speaker 1: It's that simple.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Tom on the west side next.

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Speaker 5: What's up Tom.

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Speaker 9: Good afternoon? Guys? Uh not a Travis Swift fan? And

607
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Speaker 9: do you think he would take her last name instead

608
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Speaker 9: of her being a Kelsey Anyway, the reason since you

609
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 9: brought up Kansas City, I see the chief selet goal

610
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Speaker 9: Mike Edwards, who we had on the team last year. Now,

611
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 9: I'm not saying to bring him back, but we do

612
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 9: need help in the defensive backfield, and a lot of

613
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 9: safeties have been released today. Is there anybody out there

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00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 9: that you think would be a better replacement than anybody

615
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 9: on the team now. I also have concerns on the

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Speaker 9: offense that the offensive backups on the line were now

617
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 9: playing that well in the preseason, and we all know

618
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Speaker 9: that the play starts at the line on defense. I

619
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 9: think we're okay. We got Jordans Phillips signed, we got

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Speaker 9: Ogan Jobie and Hot They're gonna come back. I'm not

621
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 9: worried about them, but the offensive line did not seem

622
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Speaker 9: like they had any synchronicity to him in the playoff games.

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Speaker 9: And that wide receiver now we got two or three

624
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Speaker 9: slot receivers. Robert Woods is out there now. I don't

625
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Speaker 9: At first I was gonna say, don't bring him back

626
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Speaker 9: because he's long in the two. But he could back

627
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 9: up Kurtis Samuel if anything happens to him, go ahead

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00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 9: and talk about it, guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, a lot there, Tom, But thanks for the call.

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Speaker 5: What do you want to start?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Robert Woods, I don't know. I kind of like

632
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: the guys they got in the room now. Offensively, on

633
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: the offensive line, I disagree with you. I thought not

634
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: a lot of snaps were taken by the starters by

635
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: the offensive line in the preseason. So I don't know

636
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: worry how you're getting the conclusion that they didn't play

637
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 3: too good.

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00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: You're right.

639
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: In the Chicago game, well, the back Yeah, the backups

640
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 3: didn't look good, and for reasons we've discussed at length

641
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: on the show. They were shuffling around at different positions,

642
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 3: they were taking snaps at positions, they hadn't taken very

643
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: many snaps at if any, and they hadn't taken any

644
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 3: reps taken in any if any reps with the group

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00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: of five they were playing with. In these games, they

646
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: were set up to be in a tough spot to

647
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 3: see how they would handle it. Uh So the offensive

648
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 3: line doesn't bother me at all. I am not worried

649
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: about them. They've been durable, and the guys who are

650
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: gonna play are gonna play and they haven't yet. So yeah,

651
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 3: I don't the offensive side of the ball, I'm I

652
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 3: think we're good at On the defensive side, yeah, the secondary,

653
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: there might be a safety cut out there that they

654
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: could bring in that they might think is an upgrade.

655
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: They might, but he might be too expensive as well.

656
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: Right, But I don't know. And also I think coach

657
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: McDermott kind of laid this out pretty effectively last week

658
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: when he explained that the safety position is responsible for

659
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: an awful lot in the scope of this defensive scheme.

660
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: It's not just something you walk in and you handle,

661
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: so there has to be that consideration as well. I

662
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: think the player would have to be a significant upgrade athletically,

663
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: skill set wise, whatever it is, over what they currently

664
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: have to make that move, Because to get somebody up

665
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: to speed this late in the game and replace somebody

666
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: on your roster right now or somebody on your projected

667
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 2: fifty three right now, I think a pretty quality, darn

668
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 2: good safety would have to shake loose to consider.

669
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, think about it. I mean, I think their safety

670
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 3: spot is precarious as it is with because the injuries

671
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: and the lack of time on the field and stuff.

672
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: If they brought a guy in and put him on

673
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 3: the fifty three, what happens if somebody tweaks an ankle

674
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: in the first game and you got a guy there,

675
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: he doesn't even know the words, it's a problem. So

676
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 3: they may there may be a guy out there, and

677
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: they may feel confident enough that and let's face it,

678
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: two weeks into training camp and you feel like a

679
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: guy can go out there and play a game. So

680
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: if you bring a guy in like on Wednesday, after

681
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: the waivers clear and all of that, you bring a

682
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 3: guy in Wednesday, you've got what ten days, ten days

683
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: to get him up to speed on the defense, the terminology,

684
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: what he's supposed to do, how he's supposed to do it,

685
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 3: get him in on the field, the whole thing. So

686
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 3: they it may be a possibility that there's a guy

687
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 3: out there that they have been tracking on another team,

688
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: and when he comes available, they pick up the phone.

689
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 3: That's totally possible, totally possible. But I don't know who

690
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 3: that is. I couldn't even begin to tell you. Because, Yeah,

691
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 3: every team's gonna cut just the same number of guys

692
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 3: at every position that the Bills are cutting. They're gonna

693
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 3: cut two safeties, they're gonna cut two corners. They're gonna cut,

694
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 3: you know, two defensive linemen or three or four defensive linemen,

695
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: a couple of offensive linemen. All those guys are out there,

696
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: So there'll be safeties out there that the Bills will

697
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: know who they are and have an evaluation.

698
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 2: On Let's get back to the phones and to Lynn

699
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: in Springville.

700
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 5: What's up Lynn?

701
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 7: Billy him? I was, you know, looking at social media.

702
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 7: I'm watching everything related to football, and there was an

703
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 7: article somebody had written. I don't think it was Joe Biscalia,

704
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 7: but they were talking about the problems that they've noticed

705
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 7: Bishops struggling with that the same he was struggling with

706
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 7: in college. He's great man demand coverage, but when he's

707
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 7: in the game and they're in zone, he doesn't know

708
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 7: where he's going. He looks confused. He doesn't have those

709
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 7: kind of instincts for the zone. What do you think

710
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 7: of out moving cam Lewis, even though he's mister jack

711
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 7: of all trades, that they can on him for so

712
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 7: many different things into a safety position. And mister Hancock

713
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 7: could be that person when he comes back from you know, injury,

714
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 7: to be cam Lewis's jack of all trades. Because you

715
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 7: were just talking about safeties and picking up veterans, right,

716
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 7: understand our terminology and that kind of thing. Why not

717
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 7: somebody we do have and convert them rather than getting

718
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 7: stuck with uh, there's another play, mister Bishop, there's another touchdown,

719
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 7: another play he missed, you know, and they compensated last

720
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 7: year they were talking about with playing more of the

721
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 7: nickelback whatever you want to call it, that three zone

722
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 7: or whatever it was, you know, and it hurt us badly.

723
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 7: Everybody else.

724
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 9: They were just.

725
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 7: Picking us everything underneath, with all their passes and things,

726
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 7: and they just had a party because we had problems,

727
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 7: you know, tackling after those catches.

728
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 2: Ye understood, Lynn, So good call, good question. So let's

729
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: try to answer them as best we can. Bishop has

730
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: less experience in zone coverage than man coverage. When he

731
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: was at Utah it was largely a man coverage call defense,

732
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: so it was an adjustment for him. And I think

733
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 2: he's improved considerably in that area from where he was

734
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 2: last year at this time as a rookie, having missed

735
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 2: all of training camp, so missed time on the field

736
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: last summer hurt him when he had to get on

737
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: the field last year as a rookie when they had

738
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: some injuries in the defensive backfield.

739
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 5: I think he's appreciably ahead of where he was.

740
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: Last year right now in terms of zone coverage responsibilities.

741
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 2: And I think Cam Lewis. You know, everybody loves Cam

742
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 2: with all the things he does for this team, not

743
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: only on defense, but on special teams as well. He's

744
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: just he's a little undersized. I still remember a play

745
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 2: last year when he was playing, and look, the guy

746
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: tries to play bigger than his size and he can hit.

747
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, he throws his body all around

748
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: all over the place all the time. But I still

749
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: have this vision of him holding on to a receiver's

750
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: ankle and waiting for help to get there because the

751
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: guy was six three, two hundred and fifteen pounds and

752
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: he's just dragging him like an anchor weight on his ankle.

753
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: And fortunately helped did get there because you know, defense

754
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: rally to the football, But there are size limitations to

755
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: play in deep center field with him, and you need

756
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 2: a little bit bigger sturd of your guy there, who also,

757
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 2: by the way, has to fit.

758
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 5: Up the run front.

759
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 2: And again not that Cam isn't willing and capable, but

760
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: he's one hundred and eighty five pounds and that's on

761
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: the big end, so I think. And the other thing too, Steve,

762
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: and you could speak to this when you have a

763
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: young player who you envision starting in a role for

764
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: you. You don't want to compromise that by having another guy

765
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 2: take snaps away from him so he can grow and

766
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: with all the time that he's missed, he's got to

767
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 2: get out there as much as possible if Bishop's going

768
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: to grow the way they want him to.

769
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, Lenn, that.

770
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 3: Well cam Lewis may have the athletic ability and all

771
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 3: that stuff. Any scenario that you can think of, like

772
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: switching play and is Jordan Hancock. Brown and I both

773
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: like Hancock. We think he's going to be a really

774
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: good player, yeah, and could be a starter for this

775
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 3: team even this year at some point and wherever they

776
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: choose to plug him in. But whatever, in a scenario

777
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: we come up with where they can flip positions and

778
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 3: slide cam loose over here and put him in here

779
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 3: and plug him in there, they've already thought of it,

780
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: and there are solid reasons why they don't. I don't

781
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 3: know what those might be, but they talk about things

782
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: exactly like you're talking about. One of the reasons might

783
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 3: be that, like Brownie said, he may not be physically

784
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 3: the kind of guy that can do it, or they

785
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 3: may not like his personality may not be one that

786
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: fits for safety. Maybe he's not communicative enough, or maybe

787
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: they just don't know if you'll pick it up fast

788
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 3: enough to make the transition, or maybe they feel like

789
00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 3: he just they need him more someplace else. But Stely,

790
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 3: it's a possibility for him to be moved around in

791
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 3: a pinch, Maybe he would, but I don't think they're

792
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 3: at that point yet.

793
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: I think they like the guys they've got. I think that.

794
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: The delay in us having clarity is because of the

795
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: rash of injuries they've had to both corner outside corner

796
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 3: and safety, both safety spots. I think that is what

797
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: has clouded the waters for all of us, including the

798
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 3: coaching staff.

799
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, more of your phone calls.

800
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: When we get back here, I want to Bill's Live.

801
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 5: Stay with us.

802
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 2: All right back here on one Bill's Live on cut day.

803
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: And there are reports out there that some more players

804
00:43:50,440 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: have been released, defensive tackle Casey Rogers, offensive lineman Kendrick Green, and.

805
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 5: Safety Derek Forrest.

806
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 2: So those reports are out there now, so a few

807
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: more players trickling in in terms of the reports that

808
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: are out there. So we'll try to keep you abreast

809
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: of some of the reports. Nothing official from the Bills

810
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: obviously until four pm this afternoon. Let's get back to

811
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: the phones though, at eight oh three oh five fifty

812
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: and go to Mike in Hamburg. What's up, Mike?

813
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 13: Hi, guys, how what are you doing?

814
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: Good?

815
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 4: Good?

816
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 9: Hey?

817
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 13: I think we got enough enough depths in just about

818
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 13: every position except for you know what I'm gonna say,

819
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 13: So why not bring back Jordan Foyer has a strong safety,

820
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 13: not the free safety because he's not that fast, but

821
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 13: he at least knows the defense and he he's out

822
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 13: there and you can probably get him pretty cheap. So

823
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 13: that would be my my suggestion. But again, one of

824
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 13: my favorite, one of my favorite players, you know, to

825
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 13: play on the Bills. It's finally coming back. And I

826
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 13: absolutely love the guy, Jordan Phillips. I mean, he's just

827
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 13: he's not just a good plug in play player, but

828
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 13: he's a buffalo guy, you know, and when he's on

829
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 13: the sidelines, he makes everybody excited by jumping up and down.

830
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 9: And when he.

831
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 13: Left last year, he said the only place he would

832
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 13: work is the Bills or he would retire. So I'm

833
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 13: very excited for him to come back because when he's healthy,

834
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 13: he can still rush the passer and he can plug

835
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 13: in the linebackers. Can you keep me on hold so

836
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 13: I can hear what you're saying.

837
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: Gotcha, Thanks for the call. Yeah. It seems as though

838
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: Jordan Phillips, who according to the NFL Transact, did sign

839
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: a contract to be on the active roster, that that's

840
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: only going to be temporary and that he's going to

841
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: transition to the practice squad. So I think he's going

842
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: to be a guy playing a role similar to the

843
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: role that Ilianku.

844
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 5: Played the last couple of years.

845
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: If they're down a defensive tackle or two due to injury,

846
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: that he would be the roster elevation, you know. So

847
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: that's kind of where that is safety. I understand your concern.

848
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 2: I think Jordan Poyter isn't the player he used to be.

849
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: I think that's why after one season with the Dolphins,

850
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: Miami did not bring him back. I think they saw

851
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: the skills deteriorating. I mean, all you have to do

852
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: is look at that forty nine yard touchdown run by

853
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 2: James Cook against the Dolphins last year when Poyer was

854
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: the last line of defense and James Cook outran him

855
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: on the angle I mean, Jordan Poyer took a good

856
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: angle of entry but couldn't get there. You know, He's

857
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 2: had a great career and he was a great Buffalo

858
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: Bill here, but I just don't They've got to turn

859
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: the page. This team made the conscious decision to get

860
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 2: appreciably younger on defense, and it's for a reason. They

861
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: know they need to be more athletic and faster. So

862
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: that's why we're seeing the youth movement that we've seen

863
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: on that side of the ball, not just this offseason,

864
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: but left last offseason as well.

865
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 3: The Bills have plenty of film on Poyer with Miami

866
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 3: last year to get an idea of what he's got

867
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 3: left if they if he's out there and they want

868
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 3: to sign and they know where he is, so if

869
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 3: they don't, it's because they have a better option. So yeah,

870
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 3: most people have said, yeah, they like the depth on

871
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 3: the roster, everything's good and all that, but then they

872
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: all have also had one.

873
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: You know suggestion.

874
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 3: The thing is that, yeah, the suggestions we've heard so

875
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 3: far are certainly available to Brandon Bean and McDermott and

876
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 3: the Bills brass if they're not making it. Most of

877
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 3: it has to do with two things. One they don't

878
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 3: want to because they don't think it's a good football

879
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 3: move because they seen the film. Or two, financially, it's

880
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 3: not gonna happen because the guy doesn't want to play

881
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: for what the Bills would want to pay him. So

882
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 3: those are the only two things that are unavailable to

883
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 3: all the choices that we've heard so far. There's a

884
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 3: ton of guys that are going to flood the market,

885
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 3: and you always say, hey, there's gonna be some good

886
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 3: players available in Ah.

887
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: Not so fast, Yeah, not so fast.

888
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 2: Let's squeeze Bernie in Connecticut, in here before the great

889
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: what's up Bernie?

890
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,479
Speaker 11: Okay, guys, I won't be too long a Steve Chris

891
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 11: love you guys, really do.

892
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: Man.

893
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 11: You guys keep me so entertained and up to date. Hey,

894
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 11: I just got to say this Bill fans. It's so

895
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 11: aggravating sometimes listening to them. It's the quarterback two stee

896
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 11: say yourself, who cares if Josh knock on wood? If

897
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 11: something happens, it's over. But quarterback. My concern is cornerback one.

898
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 11: I'm excuming cornerback two and three and our nickel as well.

899
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 11: Not that Johnson's not doing a good job, but he

900
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 11: we need a backup. I think we got a couple

901
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 11: of guys that are Lewis and and a lot of

902
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 11: our other younger guys. They can do the job, but

903
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 11: they need more time on task. My other thing is,

904
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 11: I believe we have to I have to talk about

905
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 11: how I love McDermott and how he really did I

906
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 11: think a magnificent job and throwing all these young players

907
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 11: the last what five or six players for that they're

908
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 11: going to pick up, you know, at the for the

909
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 11: roster cutdown. They were fighting for true, true battling, and

910
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 11: I believe that's what we need to do, need to

911
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 11: see can you do it? Can you fix your mess up?

912
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 11: Those are the things all.

913
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 2: Right, Sorry, Bernie, I gotta cut you loose here because

914
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 2: we're up against the break. But thanks for the call. Yeah,

915
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 2: I mean some of the guys he's on the back

916
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: end of the roster got valuable time on the field

917
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: last week against the Bucks. We saw some guys really

918
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 2: fighting for roster spots, and some guys may have cemented

919
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: their spot on the fifty three man roster today because.

920
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 1: Of it got them.

921
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 2: So that's right, we'll see who it is and where

922
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: they're playing maybe as soon as tomorrow on the practice field.

923
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here top of the hour. When

924
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: we come back, the Hall of Famer is going to

925
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: join us. Thurman Todd coming into the studio in hour

926
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 2: number two. Here on one Bills Live, presented by colaut

927
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: of Health.

928
00:50:27,600 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 14: It's s Buffalo Bills Radio.

929
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 10: These one Bills Live presented by Calllia Health.

930
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: All right, here we are our number two Chris Brown

931
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,479
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker joined in studio by the Hall of Famer

932
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 2: Thurman Thomas as uh he is presented. He is presented

933
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 2: by Carhart, a proud partner of the Buffalo Bills. And

934
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: that's part of the reason we got Thurman in here because, uh,

935
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 2: you know, the Bills and car Hart have partnered to

936
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 2: honor the hard working people making new high Mark Stadium

937
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: possible them. You look good and work where man?

938
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 11: No?

939
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 9: Man?

940
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, man, this is my favorite gear.

941
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 2: Now.

942
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, I'm done with all the other okay, yeah,

943
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 15: oh yeah.

944
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: Did you did you take the tour yesterday?

945
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: I did?

946
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 4: How did that go?

947
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: It was good? Give me critique Thurman's work.

948
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: Well, everything's looking good, but I'm not gonna I'm not

949
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 2: gonna pretend to know. I'm gonna pretend to the ins

950
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: and outside the finer details.

951
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: Of construction work. It's getting. It's nice, isn't it.

952
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 2: Oh, it's yeah, it's nice. And I got the radio

953
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 2: broadcast booth location confirmed for me. So we're gonna be

954
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 2: like pretty much on the forty yard line, will be

955
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 2: a little higher, but you know, as long as we're

956
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 2: central higher and just as close, we're good.

957
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: Well.

958
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, because of the stacked seating, it's almost like it

959
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 2: be hanging over the field a little bit. So, yeah,

960
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: I thought one of the there's an optical illusion in

961
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: there because because of the stacked seating, it makes the

962
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: field and you know, the the you know, the field

963
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 2: level looks smaller than how it looks over here with

964
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: the swooping bowl rook. But John Polky was telling us

965
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 2: yesterday that the total field surface is actually larger. There's

966
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 2: gonna be more room on the sidelines on both sides

967
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 2: and in the back really, but it doesn't look like

968
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: that if you if you're standing there looking at it,

969
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: because the stacked seating makes you feel more closed in.

970
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you go down.

971
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 3: We've stood in the bottom of it in the field

972
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 3: where the field's going to be and it looks like

973
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 3: you could like shake hands with people both.

974
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 16: Sidelines, but it's an optical like a big odd like

975
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 16: in high Mark. Now, yeah, you gotta cup your hands

976
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 16: and scream across the field.

977
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: This was like you just sit here and talk.

978
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 2: And then the other thing. The other thing, because we've

979
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: heard how they've really invested in the sound. You know,

980
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 2: the canopy is obviously going to trap the sound in

981
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 2: the stadium, and the stacked seating is going to trap

982
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: the sound and kind of rein it back down on

983
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: the field. But then they were telling us about the

984
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 2: sound system. Those giants speakers they got hanging from the

985
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: canopy all the way around. So they're like, yeah, we've

986
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: got thirty eight of those all the way around the stadium.

987
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 2: So somebody asked, well, how many is it in the

988
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: old stadium?

989
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 15: They said four, Yeah, in a special union of guys

990
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 15: that hang these speakers.

991
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 2: So it's amazing they have. Yeah, so they have suspended

992
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 2: from the canopy a scaffolding floor.

993
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 1: I knew I saw that, so the guys.

994
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 2: So the guys can just walk around that like it's

995
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: a floor. It's like a floating floor because it's suspended

996
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: from the canop which is crazy.

997
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 4: They said they're like marines on Navy seals or something.

998
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 3: When I when I first when I first started talking

999
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 3: about the new stadium, they you know, the videos and

1000
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 3: all that, you're going to do that, but well they said,

1001
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 3: they're really going to go over the top and do

1002
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 3: the sound system like it's never been done. Like it's

1003
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 3: gonna be state of the art, cutting edge, all of that.

1004
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeaggy yigity. So it's gonna be.

1005
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: People aren't gonna be sitting in that stadium going.

1006
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 5: What did they say?

1007
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna it's.

1008
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 2: Gonna be crystal clear and there's gonna be near absolutely everybody.

1009
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

1010
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: You were the subject them of a small film titled

1011
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 2: Making the Stadium Possible, paying tribut to the trades people

1012
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 2: who make the game day experience as possible. It's nice

1013
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 2: that Carhart, you know, stepped up with a with a

1014
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 2: big donation three hundred thousand dollars to not only you know,

1015
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 2: invest in the trades, because I think the building trades

1016
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 2: people don't realize there's a demand right now for people

1017
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 2: in the trades. A lot of kids just go off

1018
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 2: to college, don't even give the trades a second thought,

1019
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 2: and they need people in the building trades right now.

1020
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 4: They need them.

1021
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 15: We need them, yeah, I mean everybody does. And I

1022
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 15: think we kind of knew going into this that that

1023
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 15: would be like something that we're going to have to

1024
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 15: work on because you're talking about at one point in

1025
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 15: time having fourteen hundred workers out here.

1026
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 2: Work on a daily basis.

1027
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 15: On a daily basis, and so you know what this

1028
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 15: film wanted to be about, you know, the men and

1029
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 15: women who are putting this together. You know, because I

1030
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 15: think if you look at most of the stadiums or

1031
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 15: that are built with all form, you never talk about

1032
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 15: the workers. Talk about the word it's the one who's

1033
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 15: putting the money up or the team invested in. Look

1034
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 15: at what they're doing now doing special. Well, these are

1035
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 15: men and women who are doing that, that are putting

1036
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 15: this together. And so that's what you know, this short

1037
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 15: film was all about. It was about, you know, not

1038
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 15: me or not my wife or not thirty four group

1039
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 15: or whatever. This is about Carhart and the skilled trade

1040
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 15: of the people that are building these states across the

1041
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 15: country and how our trades like, hey, look I have

1042
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 15: workers in mind that you know, they're in their fifties.

1043
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 15: You know, we're trying to get them to where you know,

1044
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 15: we can get them in their twenties and thirties, some younger.

1045
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 4: People coming in here.

1046
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 15: And I think that's what made this possible is that

1047
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 15: Carhart wanted to do that. They wanted to be a

1048
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 15: part of the community that is building this stadium. And

1049
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 15: more importantly, we wanted workers from within.

1050
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 4: All the way out to be said, yeah, I was

1051
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 4: a part of that. I built that state.

1052
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you see from that field a lot.

1053
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 3: Even when at the topping out ceremony, Terry spoke to

1054
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 3: all the workers right my dad because I had to

1055
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 3: hear it every time we drove by. My dad hauled

1056
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 3: the concrete for old high Mark Stadium, and he said,

1057
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 3: you guys are all going to have a place where

1058
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 3: your name's gonna be at here, so you can bring

1059
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 3: your grandkids over and show them that you.

1060
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: Were part of this. There's a great sense pride. It is.

1061
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: It really is.

1062
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,439
Speaker 2: But I think what you're saying, Thurman is a real

1063
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 2: is a real thing that you know, Carhard wants to

1064
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 2: invest in it. And I get why, because, like you

1065
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: were saying, you know, you've got workers that in ten

1066
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: years are probably going to age out and you need

1067
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 2: like a new generation generation people coming up through the ranks.

1068
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: And this is going to help in terms of educating

1069
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 2: high school students whoever. Like, Hey, you may want to

1070
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: consider a career in the trades business, because I mean

1071
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 2: you can make a really good looking.

1072
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 9: To do it.

1073
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 15: And I think I think what's the key for that

1074
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 15: is that, you know what, some people aren't built for college. Yeah,

1075
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 15: some people aren't built to go to college for four years,

1076
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 15: for eight years or whatever it may be. And this

1077
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 15: is probably the quickest way to you to you know,

1078
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 15: make good pay, maybe start your own company.

1079
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, do an apprenticeship.

1080
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, doing all of that stuff.

1081
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 15: I mean, it can, it can, it can, and it

1082
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 15: can happen to you very quickly. I had it because

1083
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 15: the market is needed for the younger generation.

1084
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 3: I had a guy tell me. He says, you know

1085
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 3: what about the college thing. Kid comes out, he goes

1086
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 3: in at eighteen instead of going to college, goes to

1087
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 3: the trade school whatever. By the time he's in a

1088
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 3: paid internship and apprenticeship goes up by the time his

1089
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 3: friends are graduating from college with one hundred and fifty

1090
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 3: thousand dollars in debt.

1091
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: He's got a house thousand.

1092
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a house and got a couple of

1093
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 3: kids exactly. All it's he's making six figures. He's already

1094
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 3: on his way because you know he's been you know,

1095
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 3: went right into it and he's got his own thing.

1096
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 3: It's really way to craft your life and get started quickly.

1097
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 3: And it it's let me tell you.

1098
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: As you and I run scholarship right for college.

1099
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 4: But I I had five.

1100
00:58:58,840 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: Kids go through.

1101
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 4: It's real money.

1102
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: It's real money.

1103
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 2: I still have one and it's real money.

1104
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: It's real money for college.

1105
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 3: And if if they come out of there with they

1106
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 3: come out of there with a liberal arts.

1107
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: Degree, is like, what are you gonna do?

1108
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 4: You're not gonna go work at Microsoft exactly.

1109
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a it's a decision.

1110
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 3: I think it's And it's bigger than just high Marks

1111
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 3: the new high Mark stadiums, than your project. It's I

1112
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 3: think it's a it's a country wide cultural.

1113
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 4: Cultural I know.

1114
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean because the same thing will probably be

1115
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 15: happening with the next data in, which would probably be

1116
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 15: what Tennessee. Yes, I think that might be the next

1117
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 15: stadium that is coming along and like you said, you know,

1118
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 15: college is for everybody. And like my little son, little Thurn,

1119
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 15: he's in the construction business now.

1120
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 4: So he's so he's twenty three years old.

1121
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 15: Yeah, and I'm still telling him we need to go

1122
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 15: over e SEC, get in a trade, do something like

1123
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,919
Speaker 15: that to expand, because hey, you need to know more

1124
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 15: than just construction. You need you know financials, right you plumber,

1125
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 15: h VAC, you need to know all that I think

1126
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 15: when you're in a construction business because you know, I mean,

1127
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 15: those are things that you can do on your own,

1128
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 15: by yourself at home.

1129
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm glad you mentioned DCC because they have

1130
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 2: a lot of those program a lot of those programs

1131
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 2: or you know, people in the trades or that want

1132
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: to get into the trades. Right.

1133
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 15: Yeah, we've been I mean yeah, I've been working with

1134
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 15: them since nineteen ninety one, it's been. And that's where

1135
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 15: our family, the Thermer Thomas Family Foundation, we work with.

1136
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 4: It's sunny Erie, right, it's soony ear and nine. We've been.

1137
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 4: You know, that's what our holidays, our party that.

1138
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 15: We have in December, that's what we have our foundation

1139
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 15: and our money we put toward actually, you know, black

1140
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 15: and brown kids going through college to get their degree

1141
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 15: finish up. So yeah, it's been a great, great institution,

1142
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 15: a great place for us.

1143
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 2: All right, last thing before we talk a little football

1144
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 2: with you about Carhart and everything, because I think you've

1145
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: experienced this just walking through the job site several times times.

1146
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 2: Everybody that is working on this stadium is essentially a

1147
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 2: Bills fan because ninety five percent of them are from

1148
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 2: Erie County or from one of the eight counties of

1149
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 2: Western New York working on this project. So it's kind

1150
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 2: of like it's personal for them, like it's and I'm

1151
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: sure you've heard that right out on the job site.

1152
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 4: I have heard.

1153
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 15: I mean I've heard it from my CEO that works

1154
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 15: at our coup that works for a thirty four group

1155
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 15: about him, you know, being part of you know stadium

1156
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 15: over there and then having seats and now having seats

1157
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 15: over here.

1158
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 4: You know, so it's a it's a big deal.

1159
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 15: It's a it's a really like family oriented type deal

1160
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 15: when you go over there, you know, the true.

1161
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 4: Bills community unity.

1162
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 15: You know, you want just about everybody that you talk

1163
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 15: to that's in the construction where it's to say, hey,

1164
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 15: I was holding over there for two muchs.

1165
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 4: But I did my job, and I did it well,

1166
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 4: and I'm a part of that stadium.

1167
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 3: It's crazy to say that. It almost seems like it's

1168
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 3: like volunteer work. It has that kind of thing like, yeah,

1169
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 3: we let's go. We got this done. You know, I

1170
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,919
Speaker 3: got this much time to put in on this. It's

1171
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 3: not but it's really a different vibe. And I'll say

1172
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 3: this to the first thing I noticed when I get

1173
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 3: over there. First of all, like you said, there's like

1174
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 3: a thousand guys over there. Nobody's standing. It's like, it's

1175
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 3: not a it's not a government job. I mean, there's

1176
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 3: no it's a there's nobody leaning on a shovel over

1177
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 3: there watching six guys, like six guys watching one guy work.

1178
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: Everybody's doing something like now.

1179
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 2: It's like somebody kicked an ant him.

1180
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. I was That's the most impressive

1181
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: thing I've seen about the whole thing. It's like, ain't

1182
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: nobody waiting.

1183
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 4: No, you can't afford to wait. We gotta get it,

1184
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 4: we gotta get it done.

1185
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1186
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 4: So that's a good thing.

1187
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 2: If you want to see the short film, uh that's

1188
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 2: basically titled Making the Stadium Possible, you can go to

1189
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Speaker 2: Carhart dot com. That's c A R H A r

1190
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 2: t t dot com slash Buffalo Bills to watch the

1191
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: new short film Now a little football talk here them.

1192
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, your running back got his bag. So, I mean,

1193
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 2: we could tell, we could tell he was happy.

1194
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: The five President's text loop was busy during that time.

1195
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 2: You want to share a little bit, No, no, okay,

1196
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 2: we're good, but you're but you know, I know you

1197
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 2: stay in touch with James a little bit, and he's

1198
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 2: not a guy that wears his emotions on his sleeve

1199
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 2: very often. But you could tell in the Hard Knocks

1200
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 2: episode last week that it meant a lot to him that,

1201
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 2: you know, the team rewarded him not only for what

1202
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 2: he brought to them, but they've committed to him for

1203
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 2: the future as well. I think that really resonated with him,

1204
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 2: and you you saw a little glimpse of it because

1205
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 2: when he signed the contract, he put his sunglasses on,

1206
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 2: and I think it's because his eyes were welling up

1207
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 2: a little bit because it meant that much to him.

1208
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1209
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 15: I mean, I've talked to him a couple of time

1210
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 15: since then, and he still says the same fact.

1211
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 4: I can't believe it happened, you know, and.

1212
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 15: I think he wanted it to happen because he I mean,

1213
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,439
Speaker 15: he said that he wants to be here.

1214
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 4: He don't want to be anywhere else.

1215
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 15: He wants to be in a Bill's uniform for the

1216
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 15: rest of his career. And I think, you know, this

1217
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 15: will seal that for him. But now, you know, I

1218
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 15: think and I've been telling him when I went out

1219
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 15: there for the first episode of hard Now you've been

1220
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 15: telling us after you know, they took the microphone off me.

1221
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 15: I'm like, you know what, when you get your deal

1222
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 15: me personally, I want to see more because I think

1223
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 15: you've you've worked that way, You've worked this hard to

1224
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 15: get here, you got your bad Now I need to

1225
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 15: see more.

1226
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: Okay.

1227
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 15: I know that they have like a you know, he's

1228
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 15: basically first and second down. Ty Johnson comes in, Ray

1229
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 15: Davis come in, But I told him, I said, I

1230
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 15: need to see more.

1231
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 4: Out of you now. I need to see you in

1232
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:56,919
Speaker 4: there on third down.

1233
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 15: And I think I saw a clip in practice where

1234
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 15: you know, it might have been third down or what,

1235
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 15: but he was picking up a blitz and so those

1236
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 15: are the things that I'm like, those are the things

1237
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 15: that's gonna really solidify your where you're going to end

1238
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 15: your career in Buffalo with this football team. Like when

1239
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 15: he got his bag, he stepped his game up, and

1240
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 15: I expected.

1241
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 2: When he got his first extension, I want to prove

1242
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 2: him right now.

1243
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 15: I want to prove him right and I think this

1244
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 15: is the same thing right here.

1245
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 4: I expect him to. You know, I don't know how

1246
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 4: many touches he had last year.

1247
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 3: But two hundred and eight carries and like thirty something thirty.

1248
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 4: So next year I'm looking at it at least three

1249
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:36,919
Speaker 4: hundred or more.

1250
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: Right, But yeah, he does, I think, so he doesn't

1251
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: control that.

1252
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 4: But yet he doesn't control that. But you know what, hey, look.

1253
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 3: He's if he's running sixty five, yeah, exactly.

1254
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 15: If he's like, yeah, he's going to get the ball

1255
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 15: a little bit more, I mean, if he makes more

1256
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 15: exciting plays.

1257
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 4: Again thinking about it, because he's.

1258
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 15: Dropped some passes, yeah, through you know, through his career

1259
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 15: and now, but have you started catching those passes?

1260
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 2: Which leads me to my next question because I wanted

1261
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 2: to pose this to you because last year, as we know,

1262
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 2: at the end of that Kansas City game, they're in

1263
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 2: two minutes trill and Ty Johnson is the two minute

1264
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 2: back and James is not on the field, and he

1265
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:15,439
Speaker 2: was a best bobble.

1266
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 4: He was the best player on the field. I think

1267
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 4: that game.

1268
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 2: I mean it was him and Curtis Samuel in the

1269
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 2: second half for sure.

1270
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1271
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 2: I mean those guys were scoring points, making plays and

1272
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 2: two minutes left in the game, and James is not

1273
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 2: on the field because Ty Johnson is the two minute

1274
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 2: drill back.

1275
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 4: What what?

1276
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 2: I'm curious what would you think. Let's just say they

1277
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 2: want to keep Ty Johnson as the third down back

1278
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 2: because he's sturdy in pass protection. He doesn't get bowled

1279
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 2: over by lineback. I mean, he's put together. What do

1280
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: you think about just bringing James on to the field

1281
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 2: and then you know you have split backs and then

1282
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 2: he's out running a pass route on third down and

1283
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 2: use him that way? What do you think?

1284
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 4: That's I love it. You're not putting You're like, okay,

1285
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 4: because then he's on the field.

1286
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: At guy that can't have twelve guys on the field.

1287
01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: Who sits down Ty?

1288
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 2: Well, if you're going two backs because you want to

1289
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 2: leave Tie in for protection and use James on a pastor,

1290
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 2: I would take a receiver off the field, take a

1291
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 2: tight end off the field.

1292
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 15: Lit him up in the slot, lt him up a

1293
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 15: wide receiver you gonna and then that takes another guy

1294
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 15: out of and who who does that open up for

1295
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 15: the superman?

1296
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 2: I mean, after Josh? After Josh, James is the most

1297
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 2: dynamic athlete on offense.

1298
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I'll say that he's on the third day,

1299
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: He's right.

1300
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 3: All during this early off season, I was poop poo

1301
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 3: and playing a running back because you know, because of

1302
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 3: the environmental League, you can replace most of the production

1303
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 3: for a fraction of the cost.

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Speaker 1: That kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: Then I went back, and Brownie will tell you, I

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Speaker 3: go back and watch old games, like I'll watched last

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Speaker 3: year's game.

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Speaker 1: I'll watch all the win you know, all the games

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Speaker 1: and stuff.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't know, man, James's good.

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Speaker 3: There was a couple of games in there, well, like

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Speaker 3: we saw clips of the Detroit game, the snow get

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Speaker 3: the one that got me. There was a couple of them.

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Speaker 3: There's more than a couple. That's why I switched my team.

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Speaker 1: Snow Game nine.

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Speaker 3: And he snapped off a sixty five yard run in

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Speaker 3: a snow like gone game, and it was like all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, we went from being in I don't

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Speaker 3: know this is gonna be like to it let's go

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Speaker 3: game because.

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Speaker 2: That run because all of a sudden, it's twenty one three.

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Speaker 3: It's twenty one three and McCaffrey then goes to McCaffrey.

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Speaker 3: How about that, you think about it. McCaffrey just goes down.

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Speaker 3: He hurts himself. Yeah, James Cook never hurt himself. Right,

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Speaker 3: He's he's available. Yeah, that's huge, And I mean you were.

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Speaker 3: I went back back in years and years ago when

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Speaker 3: when I had a VHS tape I could watch tape.

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Speaker 1: When I was working out or whatever. I used to

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Speaker 1: watch it. He was always available. Thurman was always available.

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Speaker 3: You gotta be there, and it's it's one of the

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Speaker 3: it's been highlighted by this training camp and the rash

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Speaker 3: of injuries they've had. Availability is enormous for a guy,

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Speaker 3: particularly a guy like James Coast.

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Speaker 2: Last one here for you, Thurm. Thank you for putting

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Speaker 2: the mantra out for the season to the team.

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01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 5: Do you see it in the first.

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01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 2: Episode of Hard Knights that they're they're huddled up after

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01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 2: a practice that Thurman's at and coach brings him in

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01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 2: Thurman's talking to him. He's not thirty seconds in and

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01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 2: he goes, job now is to get the one seat

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01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 2: right out of the shoot, right like the third day

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Speaker 2: of practice and trading caf third drops, gotta get the

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01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,759
Speaker 2: one seat now that everybody's like, stand it up straight,

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01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Give it to the third.

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Speaker 15: We haven't had the one seat in the calf one.

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Speaker 2: I'll see it some difference.

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Speaker 15: It's the one thing that we haven't had.

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01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 2: Remember, what do you remember love that you just put

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01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 2: it on him right away?

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Speaker 3: What do you remember about back in the day, Because

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Speaker 3: I feel like there was a time when we had

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01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 3: that arm menu. It was you want to win the

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01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 3: division vision, but you wanted to get the one seed.

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Speaker 3: And how how prevalent was that at this point of

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01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 3: the year and one of those seasons where you know,

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01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 3: ninety one, after after wide write Super Bowl and stuff,

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01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 3: the next season was like we were it was we

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01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 3: were very serious right in nineteen in the regular season

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Speaker 3: of ninety one, after Super before Super Bowl twenty six,

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01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 3: we're very serious group. And I feel like that we

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01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 3: came back like that was on the table. Yeah, like

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01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 3: somebody said, we gotta don't forget two teams got teams. Yeah,

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01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 3: two teams got to buy Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Two teams. But that's why orton right now.

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Speaker 2: To even more important.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's exactly.

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Speaker 2: I mean the city has benefited enormously from that.

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Speaker 4: Yes they have, Yes, they have.

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Speaker 3: Anybody who gets anybody one less playoff game, anybody who

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Speaker 3: gets the one seed benefits enormously, whether it's Can't City

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Speaker 3: or anybody else.

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Speaker 15: But I tell you this before we you let me

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01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 15: go whatever, this game against Baltimore. It's the biggest game

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Speaker 15: of the year. It's the biggest game in the year.

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Speaker 15: And I know the Baltimore Raven was going to be

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01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 15: treated like this is a playoff game for us week one. Yes,

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01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 15: and I ain't no Bills. Man, Well we know how

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01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 15: to handle them in the playoffs or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Buckle up because this game right here for the rest

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Speaker 4: of the year.

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Speaker 1: I have been saying the.

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01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 2: Exact Jackson said when he was asked about that game,

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01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 2: he said, we've got vengeance on our minds.

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01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: There you go, They're gonna be a tough team to

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01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: beat that night.

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01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've really this is going to be like ratings high.

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01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 2: Well, there is a reason on Sunday night exactly.

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01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 3: This is gonna be this is we were there, remember

1390
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 3: when it was we got put out of the championship

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01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 3: game in Cincinnati, and then we played him up here

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01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 3: the next year in eighty nine, when we were the

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01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 3: bickering Bills and the one time everybody was on the

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01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 3: same page, we were like was the one time we came.

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01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: Together was for the Bengals game.

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01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,799
Speaker 3: It was like, hey, back, we get all that guys,

1397
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 3: let's go, and well.

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01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 1: We crushed them.

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Speaker 4: But it starts weeks one.

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Speaker 1: It starts week one.

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01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 5: Absolute uram great to see you.

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01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:01,560
Speaker 4: Appreciate it.

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01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 2: I'm happy to see you, you know. With the work wear, man,

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01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 2: this is this is a new.

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01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 4: Oh Man, I got some boots suits.

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01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 3: Tell me everywhere, what's it really like having a real job,

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01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:13,719
Speaker 3: because I really never.

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01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 4: Is this.

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01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 3: That's I got a bunch of people taking care of

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01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 3: me here, as Steve says, in the world of journalism,

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01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:29,719
Speaker 3: we're in the toy.

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01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 2: Department all the ways a little bit too. I'm sure

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01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 2: we'll see you a little bit later on in the

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01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 2: regular season, and you'll be at that season opener for sure,

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01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 2: I know. So we at the very latest. We'll see

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Speaker 2: you there. That's the Hall of Famer Therma Thomas joining

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01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 2: us again. If you want to see that new short film,

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Speaker 2: go to Carhart dot com slash Buffalo Bills will take

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01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 2: a break and be back with more, including some of

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01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 2: your comments on the tweets sheet. Here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by a Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker. Good to catch up with Thurman Thomas there

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01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 2: and all he's doing with the car hard people, for

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01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 2: the hard working men and women. Yeah, toiling away on

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Speaker 2: the stadium on a daily basis.

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Speaker 5: So that was cool.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I was over there yesterday. It was it's

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01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 2: really starting to take shape. There's some cool stuff going

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01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 2: on there. They're actually leveling the playing field out now

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01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 2: because they're gonna plant grass seed very soon because they

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01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 2: want to get one full growing season in before anybody

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01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 2: sets foot on it. Like, they don't want to plant

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Speaker 2: grass four weeks before players are in there playing a

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Speaker 2: preseason game, you know what I mean? Right, So they

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Speaker 2: want to and.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna sow it. They're gonna grow it.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, they're gonna grow it. Yeah, from what

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01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 2: I understand. So yeah, they wanted to, you know, take

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01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 2: hold be good quality playing surface, so they want to

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01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 2: get a full growing season in and it is going

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01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 2: to have like a heated coil system underneath, you know,

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01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 2: so the ground never freezes there so it'll be able

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01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 2: to continue to grow even when you know your lawn

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01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 2: and my lawn is you know, hibernating for the winner, right,

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01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 2: So it's kind of cool to see all the different

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01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 2: things they're doing over there. While we had Therm on

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01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 2: with us, the Bills activated Cedric van pran Grainger from

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01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:33,520
Speaker 2: active pup or from a reserve pup or whatever designation

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01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 2: he had. The point is he's on the fifty three

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01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 2: man roster now, so he passed a physical activated off

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01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 2: pup and he's now going to take a spot on

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01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 2: the fifty three man roster. So that's where that is.

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01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 2: And we also saw in case you are just joining us,

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01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 2: the latest reports have Casey Rogers, Kendrick Green, Derek Forrest

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01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 2: among the player releases we've seen being reported through the

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01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 2: course of the day. Bills have not made anything official yet.

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01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 2: We don't anticipate they will do that until the four

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01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 2: pm deadline, so stay tuned to Buffalo Bills dot com

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01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 2: for that news as soon as it's made public. So yeah,

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01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 2: I mean Cedric Van Praying Granger was a guy that

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01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 2: missed the entire training camp and pre season due to

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01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:28,560
Speaker 2: a calf muscle injury. But he's healthy now, Steve and

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01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 2: I actually saw him running around yesterday in the field

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01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 2: house getting some work in, so that was encouraging to see.

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01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 2: And here we are one day later and boom, activated

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01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 2: past the physical, good to go. So he's got some

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01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 2: reps to catch up on, as we know.

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Speaker 1: But he's been in the building all last year.

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Speaker 3: He's been Yeah, I mean he's acclimated, and it's not

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Speaker 3: like he hasn't been able to go to meetings and

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Speaker 3: all that.

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Speaker 1: He's tests and taking a live rep. That's his only issue.

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Speaker 2: So he'll get ramped up, you know, between now and

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01:15:56,479 --> 01:16:00,040
Speaker 2: week one, and I guess if he shows well, and

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01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 2: who knows, maybe he's even active as a backup lineman

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01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 2: for week one or maybe they want to take a

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01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: little bit longer and he's in active week one, but

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01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 2: he's on the roster and I don't think he's going anywhere.

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01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 2: So that's that we're also asking you at eight oh

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Speaker 2: three zero five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two

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01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 2: five point fifty is the roster deep enough? You tell

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Speaker 2: us your thoughts on that subject. We did want to

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01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 2: check in on the tweet sheet. Tweet sheet brought to

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Speaker 2: you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company

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01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills, and Joe starts by saying, this

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01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 2: is the deepest Bills team I can remember. When guys

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01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 2: like kJ Hamler, Dane Jackson, and Big Jordan Phillips are

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01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 2: on the practice squad. Reportedly, that's pretty awesome. Matthew has

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Speaker 2: more of a question. He says, can you address what

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01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 2: these terms mean today? For those of us who love

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01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,719
Speaker 2: the Bills but don't get the lingo. Clear waivers, release,

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01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 2: pup et cetera. I get confused as to some of

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01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 2: the inside football terms on cutday, go ahead.

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01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 3: Clear waivers mean the waiver wires. This the draft order

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01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 3: the teams. The waiver wire goes like they you put

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01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 3: your name your player, you release him, he goes on

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01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 3: the waiver wire. What that means is the team with

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Speaker 3: the first pick of the draft, which was Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: I believe, yes, s caam Ward.

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01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 3: They start there and they get the first pick of

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01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 3: everybody on the waiver wire, and that goes just like

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01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 3: the draft order. So all these names get the team

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01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 3: with the worst record record from a year ago gets

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01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 3: first pick of all the guys that get cut from

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01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 3: the NFL today. Then it goes to the second pick,

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Speaker 3: which was I don't know, Arizona or somebody I don't

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01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 3: know who was whoever that draft, whatever the draft order was,

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01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 3: it goes all the way Giants or third, you know,

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Speaker 3: that goes all the way down through and they have.

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Speaker 2: To want to put a claim in on somebody.

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01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 3: They get first craft, they put a claim in on it.

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01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,799
Speaker 3: So if you and you don't know, so the club

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01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 3: like the Bills, will put a claim in on a guy.

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01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 3: Then they find out now there's two teams ahead of you,

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01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 3: and they have they got priority. So if they want

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Speaker 3: if the and the guy, the player I don't think

1518
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 3: has a has an option, he just goes Yep, you've

1519
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:08,879
Speaker 3: been You've been claimed.

1520
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: That's it.

1521
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 3: So that's what clearing waivers means. Release means just you

1522
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 3: no longer work for us.

1523
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 5: You're released off the roster.

1524
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 3: P up is physically it's an acronym p physically unable

1525
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:27,560
Speaker 3: is you and to perform, perform you're physically unable to perform.

1526
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 1: That's a pup list, So you have.

1527
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 2: To pass a physical to get off of that list.

1528
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 2: And that's what Cedric Van Pray Granger did today, right,

1529
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 2: So he is now on the active roster with no

1530
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 2: injury designation. So hopefully that helps for you.

1531
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 5: Uh.

1532
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones though at eight oh

1533
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 2: three oh five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty

1534
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:50,919
Speaker 2: two five fifty and we go to Austin here in Rochester.

1535
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:51,679
Speaker 2: What's up Austin?

1536
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,679
Speaker 7: So is La Viscus channel getting released? Do you think

1537
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 7: Tyrol Shape now makes the roster?

1538
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 2: Uh? I thought he did enough in the preseason to

1539
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 2: make the roster, and he put on a show Saturday

1540
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 2: Night with the one handed catch, also made a big

1541
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 2: play on special teams. I mean I said it during

1542
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 2: the broadcast. He might have just made the roster with

1543
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 2: that one handed catch.

1544
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1545
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 2: I think it was trending that way already, but that

1546
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 2: might have cemented.

1547
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 3: And he he The thing about him I think that

1548
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 3: is maybe different this year than it was a year

1549
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 3: ago or two years ago, is that he's just more consistent.

1550
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: You don't see him disappear.

1551
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 5: His releases are better.

1552
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 3: Off the lines is better, every part of his game

1553
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 3: is better. And yeah, he has put in the work.

1554
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's just all there is to it.

1555
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 3: He didn't disappear for any stretch during training camp. He

1556
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 3: performed consistently and at a high level throughout there.

1557
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: You have it.

1558
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 3: So, I yes, I'm with all the Bills fans. I

1559
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 3: would be stunned if Shavers isn't on the roster.

1560
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 2: I think he did enough, and Schault was one of

1561
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 2: his chief competitors, you know, on the back end of

1562
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 2: the receiving cores roster. And the reports have indicated out

1563
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 2: there today that Leviscus Channault has been released. So again

1564
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 2: nothing official from the team, but if that is in

1565
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 2: fact the case, things are looking enormously brighter for Shaver's

1566
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 2: chances because that was one of his chief competitors for

1567
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 2: a roster spot. Rob says, it's unsettling putting all our

1568
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 2: chips in on Bosa when he hasn't been able to

1569
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 2: stay healthy. If he goes down, we are in the

1570
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 2: exact same boat as every other year. I would respectfully

1571
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 2: disagree on that because Solomon in year two, I think

1572
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:40,759
Speaker 2: is going to give you a little more. I'm assuming

1573
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 2: he makes the roster and then Landon Jackson. Steve and

1574
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 2: I have talked about this. I think it's going to

1575
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 2: be a slow burn with land and Jackson. I don't

1576
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 2: think he's just going to burst onto the scene week

1577
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 2: one or two and have like three sacks and never

1578
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 2: look back. I think we're going to see steady progress

1579
01:20:57,439 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 2: from land and Jackson, and that's, you know, another young

1580
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 2: player in the mix that you didn't have that last

1581
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 2: year in terms of depth, and certainly not in the

1582
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 2: form of.

1583
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 5: A third round draft choice.

1584
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 3: Mike Hoyt changes that equation when he comes back into

1585
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:14,679
Speaker 3: the roster as well. I think the young defensive tackles

1586
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 3: are going to give you a little something more than

1587
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 3: you've been able to get in years past. I don't

1588
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,719
Speaker 3: think Daikwon Jones is going to see too many pass

1589
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 3: rush opportunities this year, at least not on passing downs.

1590
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 3: I just think they're going to be a notch better everywhere.

1591
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 3: So maybe a notch better is not good enough, but

1592
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 3: it is better. And I'll say this, they put some effort,

1593
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 3: They threw some assets at that.

1594
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 2: They didn't put all their chips on Joey Bosa. They

1595
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 2: spread it all around the table. Yeah, Michael Hoyt, Joey Bosa,

1596
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 2: Landon Jackson, Javon Solomon, another year of development in addition

1597
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 2: to Rousseau who got a full blown extension. So they

1598
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 2: spent a lot of money, and I think spent a

1599
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 2: lot of assets, and they invested in numbers.

1600
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 1: And I also think TJ.

1601
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 3: Sanders is going to give him a little something something

1602
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 3: in the pass rush as well, even up to the

1603
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 3: point where he's it's gonna be like Ed Oliver, He's

1604
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 3: gonna he's gonna flirt with with a good sack number

1605
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 3: after his rookie year or not.

1606
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: He might have something to learn and all that he

1607
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 1: might be, but he has shown.

1608
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 3: To be very effective in the pass rush for a

1609
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 3: rookie defensive tackle. And of course Dion Walker, the sky's

1610
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 3: the limit if if he shows up and plays like

1611
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:27,679
Speaker 3: he did against Tampa Bay. So I don't think, uh yeah,

1612
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 3: I'm with I'm with Brownie. I see what you mean. Though,

1613
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 3: they may be depending too much on Bosa, but I

1614
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 3: don't think they are. I don't think they are. I

1615
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 3: don't think they're really depending on him. I think they're

1616
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 3: they've covered their bases, so that if he indeed isn't healthy,

1617
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 3: he might lead.

1618
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 5: The charge, so to speak.

1619
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 2: I mean, he's the he's the name, he's the record.

1620
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 3: If he's healthy. If he's healthy, he is the best

1621
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 3: pass rusher they have. If he's health one hundred healthy.

1622
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 2: And he's got through a training camp in pre season

1623
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 2: without any issues knock on wood. So hopefully that's the

1624
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 2: case for the balance of the regular season as well.

1625
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 2: Steve says, I don't believe our roster will be deep

1626
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 2: enough at the beginning of the season. After we get

1627
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 2: players back from pup ir and suspensions, it definitely will be.

1628
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,640
Speaker 2: I could see why you feel that way, because the

1629
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 2: story of this training camp has been injuries.

1630
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 5: Unfortunately.

1631
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, if they get healthy, yes they're deep enough.

1632
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 2: Just about every team probably feels that way.

1633
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, every team should feel that way, So.

1634
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 2: Make of it what you will. But it's good that

1635
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 2: they're already showing signs of getting healthier. Cedric van prang

1636
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 2: Grange with the latest example coming off the pup list

1637
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:39,799
Speaker 2: today and added to the active roster after passing is physical.

1638
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 2: Joey says, since I don't know the cuts being made today,

1639
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 2: I'll just say this I do think the roster is

1640
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 2: deep enough because Brandon Bean has a very strong percentage

1641
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 2: of drafting talent and bringing in free agents. Our coaching

1642
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 2: staff is loaded with great teachers who don't get enough credit. Yeah,

1643
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 2: that goes all right, right back to what I've been

1644
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 2: saying for seven years. Development, The Bills developed players. They're

1645
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 2: good when they get here. This Bill's coaching staff makes

1646
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 2: them better. And they not say that about a lot

1647
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 2: of other clubs in the NFL.

1648
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 3: They've got a good program here and we've said it

1649
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 3: on about a couple of guys this year. You know,

1650
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 3: Tredevius White didn't want to talk to anybody unless it

1651
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:23,959
Speaker 3: was Buffalo, and same thing with a big Jordan Phillips.

1652
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 3: He said he'd retire before he played for anybody else. Right,

1653
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 3: it's real, Well, it's a good atmosphere. It's an environment

1654
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 3: where these guys can thrive. Sean McDermott has made it

1655
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 3: a top priority that he doesn't want anybody to come

1656
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 3: in these doors and play, have a level of play

1657
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 3: here and then go someplace else and play better. He

1658
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 3: wants them to be able to play their best football

1659
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 3: inside this building, and in large measure they have done

1660
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 3: that year in, year out, year over year.

1661
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the proof is in the pudding. I mean,

1662
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:59,839
Speaker 2: you've seen players here, you know, play really good football,

1663
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 2: go elsewhere and they don't look the same. Gave Davis

1664
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 2: is probably the latest example.

1665
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 3: Even Tremaine Edmonds who signed a big contract and is

1666
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 3: still playing on that extension. Yeah, there's there have been

1667
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 3: guys who've gone away and but I don't know they

1668
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 3: they don't look better to me.

1669
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, one segment to go. We'll

1670
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 2: get some final thoughts on the tweet sheet and give

1671
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 2: you a heads up as to what you can expect

1672
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 2: from us on tomorrow. Show coming up on One Bill's Live,

1673
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 2: presented by Kalida Health.

1674
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 14: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1675
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 2: All right back here on One of Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

1676
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you and some final thoughts on the

1677
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 2: tweets sheet here where we have been asking you today

1678
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 2: do you think the Bill's roster is deep enough? And

1679
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 2: Herb says, I believe in some areas the Bills will

1680
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,440
Speaker 2: be Okay. I pray to God nothing happens to Josh.

1681
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:07,600
Speaker 2: Without him, our team just wouldn't be the same. I

1682
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 2: worry about the back end with all the injuries we

1683
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:15,560
Speaker 2: have right now. Yeah, still no prognosis on Tredavious White's injury.

1684
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean said on your preseason run up to kickoff

1685
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 2: on the television side that it was a lower leg injury,

1686
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 2: but did not give a timetable. So we don't know

1687
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 2: what that holds, and we'll have to wait and see

1688
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 2: and then Max Harston, there could be a decision to

1689
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 2: be made there with respect to the fifty three man roster.

1690
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 1: That'll tell us something as well.

1691
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, put him on IR designated to return today. You know,

1692
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 2: they can do that with two players before they even

1693
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 2: get to fifty three if they wish.

1694
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:46,639
Speaker 5: So we'll have.

1695
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:48,560
Speaker 2: To see what comes of that in terms of the

1696
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 2: decision making, which would tell us a lot. It would

1697
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 2: mean that maybe with Harrison it's taking a little longer

1698
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 2: than they anticipated and he's going to need a longer

1699
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 2: run up to get back to playing, and that would

1700
01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 2: take him out of the first four games of the year.

1701
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 2: But if you think kept on the active roster, that

1702
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 2: could be an encouraging side.

1703
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think they're.

1704
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 3: Probably going to put him on the four game you do,

1705
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 3: I do, just because of how young he is, and

1706
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 3: even if he's ready before that, I mean, he missed

1707
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:17,679
Speaker 3: all the camp or most of camp, you know, except

1708
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 3: for like one week, and they'll give him a chance

1709
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 3: to ramp up at a higher level, maybe even be

1710
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 3: active and not play for a week, you know, that

1711
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 3: kind of thing, give him a slow run up until

1712
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 3: he actually plug him in and it takes the pressure

1713
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 3: off him thinking he needs to get healthy faster than

1714
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 3: he's able to get healthy. There's a lot in that,

1715
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 3: so maybe they'll do that. I think it might be

1716
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 3: a good move, but I don't even know if he's

1717
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 3: close to it, maybe that he's ready for week one

1718
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 3: for all I know, you know, none of us know,

1719
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 3: But there is that in it if it's if it's

1720
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 3: truly a seven to eight week or six to eight

1721
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 3: week injury.

1722
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:01,719
Speaker 2: As far as the draft class go, Steve Cayden Prather

1723
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:05,480
Speaker 2: right now is the only guy that we know definitively

1724
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 2: will not be on the fifty three man roster because

1725
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 2: he was waived injured last week and reverted to injured reserve.

1726
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 2: His season is over.

1727
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 1: That's a tough, but he's here. That was a tough

1728
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 1: room to make the team, it was.

1729
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 2: But everybody else still alive. No reports of any of

1730
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 2: the members of the draft class getting released as of yet.

1731
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 2: So you know guys like Chase Lunt and Dorian Strong,

1732
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Speaker 2: you know, players like that.

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Speaker 3: There's been one report they only have ten offensive linemen

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01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 3: on the roster right at this moment.

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Speaker 1: Lump would be a part of those, so I mean.

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Speaker 5: That is correct.

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Speaker 2: There are ten, so we'll see the ten that have

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01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 2: not been you know that are have not been reported

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01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 2: as a player release. Van Pran Granger was just activated, Osirus, Torrance,

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01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 2: Connor McGovern, Tyland Grabile, Alec Anderson, Dion Dawkins, Ryan Vandermark,

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01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 2: David Edwards, Chase Lunt, Spencer Brown, right, and they they

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01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 2: kept nine offensive linemens last year, ten defensive linemen, so

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Speaker 2: we'll see if that number flips to the other side

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01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 2: and maybe they can make that work with the two

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01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 2: players suspensions.

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Speaker 5: We'll have to wait and see.

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Speaker 11: See.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned to Buffalo Bills dot com because they will

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01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 2: have all of your updates on player transactions when the

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01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 2: deadline arrives at four PM, and they'll have full coverage

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Speaker 2: for you there as well some analysis amongst things.

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Speaker 3: Everybody will still be at fifty three tomorrow at showtime

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01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 3: because the four o'clock window, the twenty four hours after

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01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 3: four o'clock goes off tomorrow obviously after our show comes

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01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 3: off the air, So tomorrow we'll know the fifty three,

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01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 3: but we won't know the practice squad, not yet, and

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01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 3: they'll probably be a handful of different names on it.

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Speaker 2: Big show tomorrow though, because we've got great Cosel from

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01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 2: NFL Films joining us to assess the roster, and we'll

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01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 2: also have Brandon Bean who is set to address the

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Speaker 2: media at two thirty tomorrow. We'll have that for you

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Speaker 2: live here on our air, so we will see you

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Speaker 2: tomorrow at one