WEBVTT - Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 125 | Evaluating Position Groups: Biggest Areas for Improvement 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.439 Welcome into Jagsiah. I'm Kinani Stephens, Brian Sexton, and John 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:21.800 Oser are with me today. Jack Wars are getting ready 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:23.800 to head to Las Vegas later this week. But first off, 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:25.159 we're going to talk a little bit more about that 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:28.040 Jets performance against the Jets and then also what they're 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:29.960 doing this week to prepare for the Raiders. So we'll 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:32.120 start out with big thing number one, which is rookie phenom. 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:34.400 As we know, Brian Thomas Junior had a breakout game 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:36.880 against the Jets two touchdowns, one hundred and five receiving 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:40.680 yards and ten receptions, one of his best performances so far. 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.120 And Brian, we've talked a lot about. I made that 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:44.879 not so hot take of that. I think he's the 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:48.600 best rookie wide receiver of this class. But quickly is 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:50.839 he approaching maybe top ten in the league as one 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:52.200 of the better receivers as a whole. 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:53.960 Wait, look, Tuck, he's going to be. I mean it 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:55.760 doesn't matter what you ask him to do. Catch it 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.200 short and run on a slant, or go deep and 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.200 catch the ball like he did against Jalen Rams on 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:04.240 opening Day. He's tall, he's long, he's fast, he's got 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:06.440 game strength. I mean, this is a guy who's got 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.679 everything you could possibly want, and you know we talk 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:11.840 about hot takes. I didn't want the drag Wars to 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:13.200 draft him. I thought this was too good of a 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.240 draft for offensive tackles, that you needed to get big guys, 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.720 and yet they took him, and he turned into one 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.479 of the best Drag Wars draft picks that I can recall, 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:25.240 and one of the best receivers in Jaguars history. I 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:28.240 mean Jimmy Smith right, Thomas Junior. He doesn't say a 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.440 lot about the Jaguars history of wide receivers. There have 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:32.640 been some really good ones, but this guy looked like 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:34.400 he's going to be mentioned among the very best. 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:38.320 I think what's really impressive is I've never seen a 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:42.000 rookie wide receiver who is as good as a rookie 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:43.600 as he is in his third or fourth year, because 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.280 there's so much to learn. There's so much in terms 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:51.120 of route running in it's just NFL knowledge and experience 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.000 that you gained. I'd say he's approaching top ten and 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:56.840 if I could put him there yet. But I was 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:59.840 with Brian. I thought they should have gone big. I 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.040 want this team to get bigger stronger, more dominant up front. 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:07.680 But you also need superstars, and on a team that 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.720 hasn't had enough, especially at that position, which is a 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.880 premier position in the NFL. Now it looks like they 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:14.919 finally have a superstar. 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.639 Kay I told the story back after the Colts game, 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.600 after his fifth week in professional football, that standing next 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.239 to Jimmy Smith and listening to the greatest of the 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:28.040 Jaguars receivers talk about this kid admirably, admirably, you know, 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:30.960 talking about his great traits and what he saw in 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.560 him in just a few games told me everything I 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:35.080 needed to know about Brian Thomas junior. 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:36.680 Yeah, I don't want to think about him. If we 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.040 hadn't drafted him this year, this season without him would 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.000 not have been any fun at all. So let's get 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:42.760 to our second big thing, which is return of the Mac. 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:43.000 Now. 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.120 Mac obviously threw a crucial interception at the end of 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.680 the game against the Jets, but overall, probably his best 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:52.440 game so far in the Jaguars uniform. John and if 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.120 nothing else Mac is entertaining. Is this the Mac We're 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:56.320 going to get the rest of the way or do 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.360 we still not know because of the inconsistency? 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:03.840 Well, I hope. So he's played, he's had moments. He 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:09.160 was certainly better on Sunday than he has been. I 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.639 think you're gonna get it in the sense that he's 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:16.359 gonna throw a pick that breaks your heart. That seems 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:20.360 like it's happened every game. But the other day he 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:22.799 mixed in a lot of energy. He mixed in being 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.800 able to go downfield of Brian Thomas Jr. Really getting 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:30.360 him the ball he distributed, and yeah, it was fun 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.360 to watch him. I think teammates got behind him. So 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.040 I would say, yeah, there's three games left, I would 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:39.040 say you'd see good Mac Mac in two of them 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:40.960 and one of them you'll probably see bad Mac that 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.160 breaks your heart. And I hope not because I like 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:44.480 the kid. 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.360 We are seeing more of the good Mac, right, I 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.120 mean week to week, there's more good than bad with Mac, 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:52.960 and so that you know, boges well with three games 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.800 left that perhaps we'll see some really good Mac before 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:58.440 this is all said and done with. You'd rather be 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.960 the Jaguars with Mac Joones than the Raiders with Desmond Ritter. 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.240 I mean, you got a guy that you know can 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.200 go out and operate and John when I watch him, 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:09.720 I just think you hear quarterbacks described as guys who 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:11.840 can make all the throws, Well, he don't look like 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:13.680 you make all the throws. He doesn't have that deep 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.640 ball accuracy to be able to really take advantage of 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:20.720 someone like Brian Thomas Junior. So the trick for Press Taylor, 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.839 for Doug this week is to figure out a way 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:26.480 to tailor the game plan to do what he does 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:28.360 and still find a way to throw the ball deep 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:28.880 when you can. 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:30.320 Coming up. 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.160 Our final big thing is going to be familiar faces 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:33.920 because we take on the Raiders this week and there 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.040 are a couple of familiar faces on the defensive side 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:39.200 of the football. Former defensive coordinator here Mike Caldwell now 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.960 out the linebackers coach for the Raiders, and also kaylebon 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.040 Chase on who Brian already has three sacks and one 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:47.679 interception this year for the Raiders. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.120 One of the all time worst first round picks in 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.000 Jaguars history, and there have been a lot of them, 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.200 but this is the guy that the Jaguars took instead 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:59.080 of taking Justin Jefferson. And I still think how the 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.640 world in the twenty twenty draft room, can you say, 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:03.640 look at twenty twenty one. We're taking a quarterback no 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:07.400 matter what. So how are we doing this? I mean, 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:10.680 how are we taking this past Rusher who had six 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:12.520 sacks in one year. I'm sorry, I'm going way back 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.120 in the past, but yeah, I'll always remember Caleb On 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:16.840 Chase On as not being justin Jefferson. 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.279 Yeah, they were filling needs in that draft, and when 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:25.920 you reach for needs, you hurt yourself. So look, there's 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.800 anything wrong with Calebon I'm not gonna say here in 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:32.080 the show and Slam. He was not what they hoped 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:35.000 for in four years here, and good for him if 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:38.000 he's having some success, and you know, good for Mike. 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:41.680 Good for Mike callwell too. It's in the past, all right. 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:43.440 We'll talk some more about the Raiders later this week, 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.200 but coming up after the break, we're gonna talk about 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:53.400 what's going on around the NFL. 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We're gonna play the Titans again in two weeks, 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:19.080 but who will be the quarterback will be interesting, as 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.479 they benched Will Levis against the Bengals this week after 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.159 three interceptions, including a pick six, and it got ugly 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.920 really quick. We saw some ugly play from Levis when 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.520 we played them earlier this month, but doesn't look good 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:29.920 for him there. 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:31.560 No I would think that Mason Rudolph would be the 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.000 guy that they would go with. It gives him the 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.520 best chance to execute on offense, and we've been talking 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:37.960 about that here all year. Is making sure that some 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.040 of the young guys, whether it's an offensive lineman or 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:43.800 a skilled position player, they have the best chance to 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:46.520 engage the offense and execute the offense. 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:48.440 And Mason Rudolf is a competent backup. 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:50.880 And at some point Brian Callahan just as to say enough, 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:51.919 I've seen enough. 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:54.800 I need to see my offense work well, And I 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.120 think he probably cares less about seeing the offense work 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.000 in the short term. In the frame is knowing who 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:02.680 the quarterback is going to be. In the long term. 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:07.400 Before the Titans Jaguars game, or was it ten days ago, 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.280 the storyline up there was that Levis had done some 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.440 good things and there was a chance that he could 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:15.480 be the guy moving forward. The reason this is such 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:17.520 an important story for the Jaguars is now you sort 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:19.720 of know he's not gonna be the guy there, So 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.119 you're gonna have a team in Tennessee that gets into 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:28.040 that quarterback building, find dark guy mode again, and that'll 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:29.400 be their storyline until they find. 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.920 The guy interesting interesting. I thought it was gonna be 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.800 the Colts maybe, but Anthony Richardson has been playing a 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:36.040 bit more too, so I guess we'll see. 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.840 Well, Anthony Richardson, listen. I mean when you look at 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.320 him as a pastor, you still think what's he doing? 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:43.800 And then you watch him run and make a couple 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:45.960 of throws on the run and think, well, maybe, you know, 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:48.160 maybe they can refine that. But they're gonna have to 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.160 be really patient until he comes way around. 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.880 Yeah, it's awfully hard when all you can do is 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:58.680 run as a quarterback. They're great runners Kyler Murray and 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:02.520 Lamar Jackson and guys like that, but they are much 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:06.600 more polished and you know can win from the pocket 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:08.840 at times. Anthony richards right has to have time every 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:09.400 winning for the box. 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:11.480 Well listen, I mean Lamar Jackson came into the league 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:13.560 and he was a better passor than Anthony richards and 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.080 he has done it more at Louisville. You know, Heisman Trophy, 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:18.840 but he wasn't as polished as he needed to be. 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:20.960 And when you see him the last couple of years 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.600 in particular, he's really lifted his game. So I mean, 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.680 I would have some hope for Anthony Richardson because I 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:28.200 hear he's a good kid and works hard. 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:31.760 We will see, we will see development game for sure. 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:33.719 As far as the Raiders that we're going to be 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:35.760 facing off against this week, they played on Monday Night football, 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:37.600 so it's a short week for them taking on the 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:41.160 Falcons in a barn burner twelve to nine. 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.280 So is that the offense we're gonna see? 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.440 I guess, or I guess the Falcons haven't fallen off 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.360 as well. With Kirk Cousins not playing very well. 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:49.920 It's so hard to know what you're going to get 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.880 from a team that's out of it. With he's a 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:57.040 third quarterback. They've had so It would have been easy 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:01.280 last week, right for fans and say, well, the Jaguars 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.200 can't score against the Jets. We all sort of did it, 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:05.680 but they came out found something and they got twenty 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.800 two points. So you can never say with the team 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:12.199 that's out of it just because this happened, it is 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:19.400 gonna happen. They're depleted. Both teams should strive to get 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.200 out of the teams and I would guess the team 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:24.040 that scored seventeen or more wins, but I thought that 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:24.760 last week too. 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.400 Just to your point on the Falcons, they're seven and seven, 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:31.440 but you know they have Bejon Robinson, right, and they 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:35.080 have big, toll fast receivers. That's suppose that they went 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.079 and gavee Kirk Cousins all that money because they thought, 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:39.120 here we go. I mean, this is our year to 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.520 challenge and they're still in it in the NFC with 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:43.880 a couple of games left to go. That's a perplexing 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.880 team because there is a lot of ability up there 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:48.480 and they just haven't got enough from it. 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.080 A lot of parody around the league. Definitely interesting to 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.280 watch it all go down. Say well, so we're going 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:54.840 to do a little this or that after the break 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:04.920 for eleven years, Dreamfinders Homes I'm been proud to call 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.199 themselves the official home builder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. 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Is there a position group that you 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:42.120 think specifically is one that is a need at this 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.440 point or that you want to see younger players step up? 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:45.480 Or who are you kind of looking at. 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.560 Well, I'll stick with the defensive line because I've been 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.000 on that and not the X to your guys, obviously, 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:51.920 you know what you have with Josh and with Trayvon. 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.120 You've got to be able to stop the run. And 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.520 this team there was a section of the season where 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:01.320 they just couldn't do anything at the line of scrimmage. 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:05.240 On defense, you draft Mason Smith and Jordan Jefferson. I 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.319 need to see those guys and we haven't seen them 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.680 on the field together. We haven't even seen him active 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.480 on the same game day when Jefferson was active in 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:16.120 doing things in London, and just after London, Mason Smith wasn't. 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.800 Mason Smith's been active the last couple of weeks. That 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.040 was a second and a fourth round pick. Those two 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.679 guys have got to come through in a big way 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.040 or you've got to go at the top of the 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:28.560 draft next year and be looking for defensive tackles because 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:30.680 you're just not big enough and strong enough inside on 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:31.679 the defensive line. 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:35.160 Yeah. I kind of think it doesn't matter what these 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:37.480 guys do. At the end. I think you need to 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.840 get stouter, bigger in the defensive line. And I'm not 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:44.160 sure that you know. We need to stop playing depth 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:45.840 chart football. I call it in the alf season with 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.679 the defensive line and just get as many guys as 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:50.640 you can because you need six or seven really good 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.520 players up there to do it, and I think they 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:55.079 have it. I'll go defensive back. For the point of 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.560 the question, you really wonder what safety is gonna look 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.040 like next year. Yeah, I don't think Cisco is going 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.760 to be back. Dewey, who I liked very much as 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:07.040 a player, hasn't really gotten on the field very much. 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:12.120 Antonio Johnson struggled. So I think you keep playing those guys. 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.760 You get Antonio into the lineup, you get DeAndre Prince 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:20.199 into the lineup, but they need some bodies and some 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:24.040 young bodies without regard to depth chart defensive back and 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:27.640 defensive line, because there's just not enough there there. 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:31.280 No, And I don't want to see him play in 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:34.679 free agency at all at all. You like to just 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.600 shut it down and not go there at all. They 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.880 will go into it. It's what the Jaguars have done historically. 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:42.760 Safety is a place where you might be able to 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:44.400 go find a couple of guys who can come in 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.080 and help you. But I'm with you, you have to 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.480 overhauld the position and scheme might have something to do 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:53.040 with it. Yeah, you know, the defensive scheme doesn't work. 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.439 I don't know whether you ask Ryan Nielsen to change 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.000 it or you change that. I don't know what you 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.679 do there, but maybe that has something to do with 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:00.960 how these guys can play better. 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:04.000 And here's what we're talking about with free agency. Look, 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:09.160 I like Darnell Savage, he's been good, but you pay 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:13.200 a veteran guy to come in and be what you 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.040 would hope that you could get a second year guy 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:18.920 to be. And I darn Hosk have a good, long career, 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:22.080 but I don't know that paying that to bring it 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.480 in is better than having second year guy to bring 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.320 it in. And they've got to start having second and 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:30.280 third year guys playing these roles that they're bringing these 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:31.000 veterans into play. 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:32.520 Well, let me qualify it. Then I don't want him 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.360 to play in heavy you know, in big name free agency. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.199 But go find a couple of guys who you can 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:42.280 bring in here to off the level of competition, that 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.839 second tier, that third tier of guys, big bodies who 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.280 can run, and that you can coach them and figure 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.440 out whether they can play or not. Because other than 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.720 Antonio Johnson, you don't you don't look like you've got anybody. 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:54.720 I mean Savage. 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:58.280 But we know that the big dollar free agent doesn't work, 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:00.320 not long term think. 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.200 So not short term much either. But we'll make it 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.200 happen for my second this or that. Today I'm looking 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.120 a little bit. We talked about both of these guys already, 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.600 but Mac Jones doesn't Ritter. These are backup quarterbacks in 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.880 this matchup. We're gonna see on Sunday. Which of them 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.280 has a better opportunity at this point, Who do you 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.200 think is making a better case for themselves? Obviously doesn't, 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.560 Ritter hasn't hasn't had as many games as Mac thus far. 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:21.360 But towards the end of the season. Who's gonna have 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.120 this better chance? Who's gonna take advantage of the opportunity? 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:30.960 Well, I think realistically both, I'm trying to dodge the question. 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:32.200 I think both of them are gonna be back ups. 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:37.240 They're the same guy, and uh, they haven't really shown 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:41.360 that magic or his azz. I don't know that gms 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.560 are gonna be sitting boy. We've got to have that 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:48.360 at a starting level salary. As opposed to, you know, 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.240 let's go draft. Are you gonna bring Mac Jones in 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.440 next year if you're the you know, a team in 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.400 the A C West, for example, to say, okay, we're 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.160 gonna start him. I don't think so. I think they're 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:00.600 both gonna be good backup quarterbacks. 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.840 Yeah, I don't think Mac has earned the free agent contract. 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.200 I don't think any would argue that he hasn't earned 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.240 the free agent contract. I'd like to see Mac back 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.160 here as a backup, right, I mean a guy who 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.160 can play in his hometown for a number of years. Listen, 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:16.760 how much should Chase Daniel make the former Saint and 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:18.520 he was around the league with a couple of different teams, 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.920 the Eagles for a while. He made like forty seven 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:24.160 million dollars in fourteen years of being a backup quarterback. 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.400 It is a lucrative way to make a living, So 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.680 maybe that would work. I think both of these guys 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:31.760 are the same guy. It's hard to say who has 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.520 a greater opportunity. I'll go with Mac because he's got 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:35.840 Brian Thomas Junior on the field. 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:37.680 That certainly doesn't hurt. And we'll get to see it 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:39.320 Labin in person on Sunday, so we'll be able to 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:41.280 judge a little bit better after that. I imagine, stay 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:42.560 with us. We'll tell you what's going on the rest 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:42.680 of the. 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:43.680 Week for the Jaguars. 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.280 Jags fans, if you want customized Jaguars furniture for your home, 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.120 checkout zipchaer dot com to Browns all the customizable options. 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:59.560 Zip cher Is furniture for fans. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.960 Staying right here, y'all be playing We're good brown man 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:09.880 about right here, y'all didn't get away. It's a ship 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:11.280 six year. 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:20.080 Sure he. 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:27.080 Lay the back flip that led the back up. You 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:27.760 ain't said. 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:31.840 I when y'all dam though you walked the. 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:32.800 Way that's the back floor. 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:37.120 You lie like hell man, You ain't said it. You 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:42.520 ain't hear it. Hit the bat ain't clean, bigga bad blow. 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:49.840 How I missed that? Let's Trayvon Walker miked up? Missed 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:50.680 the back flip. 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.480 I don't know how because you two feet away from it, 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.280 but apparently didn't see it. And uh thought Josh high 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.000 Down was on too, because Josh does that a lot. 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.480 Super impressive. But was I the only person who was 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:03.480 thinking about when Buccaneers kicker Martine Gramatica did the same 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:05.639 thing in towards a CEO? Remember that a couple of 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:06.800 years ago on Monday Night football. 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.040 A couple was about twenty three long ago. Yeah, we 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:11.560 do didn't see that long. It was a hike for 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:15.640 guys like you and me. It's not longer. I thought 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:17.720 it was really cool. That was really funny, and yeah, 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.400 probably gonna do it every play. I was a little scary. 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:23.600 I wasn't gonna make the full rotation, but the one 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:23.960 got hurt. 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:24.840 Awesome athlete. 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:25.720 It was good. 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:30.119 Three hundred pound backflip is impressive. Coming up this week, obviously, 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:31.560 we're getting ready to head to the West Coast our 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:32.080 first West. 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.639 Coast game, I think this season. Yes, I don't think 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:38.040 we went last season either. Anytime you could avoid going 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:39.600 to the West Coast, it's a good. 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:40.720 Deal, probably for the best. 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:42.280 Yeah, it is. Is it a bit of track? 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:43.840 Of course we had the London trip in there, so 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:46.160 there's always that. What are you guys looking at this week? 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:46.760 Who are you talking to? 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:48.840 I'm going to talk to you Richard and Google the 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.520 tight Ends coach about Brenton Strange. You know, we spent 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.040 so much time on Brian Thomas Junior, and rightfully so. 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.840 I mean, he's the story of the season, but quietly, 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:01.840 Brenton Strange has carved a roll out for himself bigger 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:03.639 than I think a lot of people thought possible in 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.600 year two, especially after year one was kind of limited. 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:10.200 I think he's got big time potential and I'm excited 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:11.639 to talk to Richard and Google about him. 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.639 Yeah, he's turning into a nice player. I'm hoping to 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.600 get Mac Jones. Sometimes the quarterback can be busy during 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.840 the week, so I think it could be fun. We 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:24.120 can talk about Southside Private School Jackson. 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:26.680 Listen, it will be more than fun. I mean, you'll 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:28.720 just have to sit back and let him do all 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:29.200