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Speaker 1: in Orchard Party. There you go. There's your highlight, Pat Kine.

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Speaker 1: The Game Rewind presented by Toshiba, the official copy or

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Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bill. Steve. As they say in

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Speaker 1: the movie Godfather, this is the life we have chosen

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Speaker 1: right now, man to turn back. We are neck deep

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Speaker 1: We're ready to talk with you about the Bills. Horrible

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Speaker 1: was because of the way Peterman played. But you make

426
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 1: good points about and I've kind of said this last

427
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 1: week Steve, you know, not paying a due attention to

428
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 1: who would be the backup quarterbacks and making a couple

429
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 1: of moves that you know can clearly be questioned, but

430
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 1: again make And as far as getting another assets on

431
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,640
Speaker 1: the offense, look, that's coming right. They've got all kinds

432
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 1: of deadcap money out there. They had all these draft

433
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,439
Speaker 1: picks and assets tied up to get cholsh Allen. They

434
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 1: did spend money to improve a defense that has clearly worked.

435
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: There were twenty ninth in defense last year. They're third

436
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 1: today in defense. I know everybody's saying, why didn't they

437
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: deal with the offense. Well, you can't do it all

438
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 1: in one year, right, I mean, ye make to it all.

439
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 1: I think it's also true too. They probably believed that

440
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,239
Speaker 1: they could even with the guys they had, and as

441
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 1: as bad as the offensive line is played and the

442
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 1: struggles that they've had offensive which had been epic, they

443
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 1: probably thought, listen, there's no way we can be as

444
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 1: bad as we were last year with these guys with

445
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 1: a new young quarterback or even Nathan Peterman a little

446
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 1: bit more experienced, and they thought, you know what, we

447
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 1: could win some games like we did last year if

448
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 1: we make our defense that much better. I remember last

449
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,479
Speaker 1: last year they weren't statistically weren't that good. They were

450
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: twenty six. If we get a top The thought was, man,

451
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 1: if we get our defense better, which it looks like

452
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 1: we did, and obviously they did, we're gonna win games

453
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 1: that way. We're gonna win games by running the football

454
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: and just staying on the field offensively and getting some turnovers.

455
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 1: They had no idea their offense was gonna flop as

456
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 1: badly as it has. I mean, and you can say

457
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 1: what you want about the quarterback or whoever's playing quarterback,

458
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: let's not forget their offense was barely above kneeling down

459
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 1: in the passing game last year. It I don't know

460
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: where you know, we're in a race to see which

461
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: one's worst passing last year's or this year's. But the

462
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: problem is the turnovers. That's been the huge difference this

463
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 1: year from last year, and the differences in the one

464
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 1: lost record. Their defense is way better than it was

465
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,959
Speaker 1: a year ago when they won nine games. Their offense

466
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 1: is epically bad. Yeah, and I don't think they I

467
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 1: don't think they saw I don't think any of us

468
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 1: I know you did. I didn't see it coming. And

469
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 1: their miscalculations marks right, miscalculations made by decision makers. You're

470
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 1: absolutely right. I think the biggest one may have been

471
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: the drop off on the run game because of what's

472
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: going on up front the offensive line. I think that

473
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: might be the biggest miscalculation made as they get into

474
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: the season. They came into the season, yeah, I thought that. Yeah,

475
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: you're right. They did make that, made some efforts to

476
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: get better. They drafted a guy, but he was in

477
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: the fifth round in Wyatt Teller. They brought Russ Bodine

478
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: over from the offensive line in Cincinnati, who had had

479
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 1: a couple of good years, and then when that offensive

480
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: line started to go south in Cincinnati, Bodine kind of

481
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: got exposed. And they thought, well, it's because the new

482
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: guys around him. He's not playing so well. Now he's

483
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: you know, he's he hasn't gotten back to where he

484
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 1: was early in his career. The two tackles, I probably

485
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: because of the stuff that's going on inside haven't played

486
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: as well either, so all the all the way round

487
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: up front, it's a little bit of a mush. I mean,

488
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: they haven't dominated anyway. They can't win the line of

489
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: scrimmage here. It's Sean McDermott saying it every every week.

490
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: You know, they've got to win the line of scrimmage.

491
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: Well they haven't yet. So all that stuff up front

492
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 1: has had a ripple effect on a young quarterbacking group

493
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: and wide receivers who need a little extra time to

494
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 1: get open and aren't being given it. And that's why

495
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: he ended up with a quarterback yesterday goes thirty one

496
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: to forty nine throwing three yard routes all day. So

497
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: it was it's turned south in a big hurry. And

498
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: I think that's the one thing that it's really I

499
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: got it to ed and I guess it's the first

500
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: time I can I've really thought about it like that.

501
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: They caught me off guard how epically bad this offense is,

502
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: and I did not expect at the beginning of the season.

503
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: Let's hope we've seen the worst of it, right, I

504
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: really hope we've seen the worst of it. And I

505
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah, who knows it's still almost half a season.

506
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Speaker 1: Mike on the line from amours solo, Mike, go ahead, Hi,

507
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: thank you very much for taking my call. Guys. Sure, sure,

508
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: I've got a little different take on things, if you

509
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: don't mind for a moment. The game day experience has deteriorated.

510
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: I've been going since the late seventies to games head

511
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: in what way time, and I just recently got rid

512
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: of my season tickets at the end of last year.

513
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: The concession areas have just gotten ridiculous. They're out of

514
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 1: everything all the time. So you have not gone to

515
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 1: a game this year? Is that what you're telling us,

516
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: MIKEL I was actually at yesterday's game, my friends. Okay,

517
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: was that your first of the year? That was my

518
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: first of the year. That's correct. Okay, So they running

519
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: out of stuff in the concession areas, yes, you're it's

520
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: the third quarter, two minutes and you're going up. They're

521
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: out of popcorn, they're out of pretzels, they're out of burgers,

522
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 1: they're out of pizza, drinks. For some reason, they couldn't

523
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: serve properly. And the first time that's happened in the

524
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: past years. Yeah, that's not that's not good, what and

525
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: what about everything else? Is there anything else that you

526
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: didn't like? What else? I obviously with the team, But

527
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: as you know, Steve, back when the stadium fit more people,

528
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: they had really pretty decent traffic control with the stadium.

529
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: Then they made the changes. They removed beautiful avenue we

530
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: used to have with the pregame show where you used

531
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: to be able to go and you could go across

532
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: the street. It's just taken away so many things for

533
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: the fans, for the people who've been going. I'm not

534
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: were you talking about. I'm not familiar with that, Mike

535
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,719
Speaker 1: way of what used to be when you would come

536
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: walking into the stadium on Abbott Road. Yeah, across the street.

537
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: They used to have that avenue with the radio. Okay,

538
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: now that radio is right over here outside the field house. Yeah,

539
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: you used to have where you would go across the street.

540
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: They had all the tent set up, they had like

541
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: the Duncan booths and all those different activities to participate in. Right,

542
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: you used to have a lot more of the bands

543
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: that we're out there, so a lot more like what

544
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: Baltimore and Washington and Cleveland and Pittsburgh are doing with

545
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: the fan interaction right, so you don't. All right, so

546
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 1: you don't like the outside the stadium right before you

547
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,479
Speaker 1: come in since they made the changes to the new

548
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: super gates and all that stuff. Correct, the super gate,

549
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: it used to take me five to ten minutes to

550
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: get in, it's now taking me forty to fifty minutes

551
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: to get in. Yeah, and that's just the opposite of

552
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: what they were planning on having happened, correct, And then

553
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: how it translates on the field. You know, on the field,

554
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: I don't blame the Bills for what happened with the

555
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: offensive line. You know, things have happened that would beyond

556
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: their control. I do hold them accountable for decisions like

557
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. I supported keeping Tyrod Taylor. But when you're

558
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: mixing the san condition what's going down, and then it

559
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: looks like they're they're just not thinking things through in

560
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: any sense right now? Interesting, Okay, I will say, there's

561
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: my years and we didn't we you know, we do

562
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: a lot of open phones there. Yours is the first

563
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: call we've received from anybody complaining about the game. To

564
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: experience and the issues you talk about, and obviously to

565
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: discount them, but I understand you're experiencing what you're experiencing. Yeah,

566
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: some people. Yeah, And everything is subjective, so some people

567
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: I would think, maybe maybe I'm wrong. There's some people

568
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: who like the new configuration or don't know any different

569
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 1: and don't miss what you miss. There's probably some who

570
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: have been put off, like buy it like you, But

571
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: anytime you go to if you're gonna go, try and

572
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: spend your money at the stadium, they don't. They're out

573
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: of the things you want to buy. That's that is

574
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: a bummer. And plus, you know, having a team that's

575
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: struggling on offense and having trouble winning games at all

576
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: and even looking good doing it, everything stinks. Everything stinks.

577
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: Our radio show stinks. Yeah, right, because they lose because

578
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: they get smoked every Yeah, I mean that's a that's

579
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: a that's a big issue. But you know, I'm telling

580
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: you you should and I know you do that when

581
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: you call this show, and we welcome the call, and

582
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: we appreciated Mike for you letting us know that. But hey,

583
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 1: there's people who will pick up the phone at one

584
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive and listen and here and if you can

585
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: make if there's more than if you know, obviously there's

586
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: a you know, a lot to complain about with a

587
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: game like yesterday, in the last couple of weeks, the

588
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: last first half of this season about the football end

589
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: of it. But if there's anything else, there's people here

590
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: one Bill's drive that will that will listen to that

591
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: because they're always looking to, you know, to improve it

592
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: and do it right. The guy to ask for is

593
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: Andy Major, who is a director of a fan experience

594
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: here and the number is six for eight eighteen hundred.

595
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: Call and ask for Andy Major. Tell them what you've encountered,

596
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: Andy as vice president of Operations and guest Experience, exactly

597
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Mike, Hey, I spent some time

598
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: at the locker room after the game. Of course, Chris

599
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: Brown is doing interviewers as well. Tom and now for

600
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: a listen to what the Bills were saying after the game.

601
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Speaker 1: Around the locker Room, presented by Units Upstate New York

602
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603
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Speaker 1: Units dot org. Here we go around the locker room.

604
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: Quarterback Nathan Peterman. The Buffalo turnovers. The turnovers frustrating anytime

605
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: it happens, so um, regardless of how it happens. Uh

606
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: then the result of a turnover. So, UM, it's frustrating.

607
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: You know, obviously we know that we can't do that

608
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: as an offense. Um, we got to be better in that. Um.

609
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: You know, especially our defense sets us out. They play

610
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: so well. Um, we gotta be better in that area.

611
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: Head coach Sean McDermott struggled to the Buffalo offense. First

612
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: of all, we turn the ball over today. You can't

613
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: turn the ball over, can't give them field position. Um,

614
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: you know we did. We did both of those two

615
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: things we said we couldn't do. We did that today.

616
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: Couldn't get the running game going early, um, you know,

617
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: which is an important thing in terms of establishing the

618
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. So we've got to do better job there. Yeah,

619
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm very frustrating, very frustrated with with just the fundamentals

620
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: of what went on in the game in terms of

621
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,479
Speaker 1: turning the ball over and and uh and giving them

622
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,479
Speaker 1: field position. It's it's tough to win a game when

623
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 1: you do that. Wide receivers A Jones on offensive effort,

624
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't have the exact answer for it. I know

625
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: that guys are giving great effort, don't I don't think

626
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: I see anyone who's not trying to give it there all.

627
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: So that's just the most that's the most discouraging thing

628
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: about the situation right now is the efforts there and

629
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: doing everything you possibly can, just not getting the result

630
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: that we need. Obviously, wide receiver Terrell Prior keeping confidence high.

631
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: We all got to be confident. I mean myself. I

632
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: mean I'm not going who's confidence. Somebody had to me

633
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: I count the dropward guy zone and knocks it out.

634
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: I think things like that happened. You know, they've got

635
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: made a great play. From my standpoint, I think, uh,

636
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: you know, the fires there, you know, the competitive nature

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Speaker 1: is there. I just think we just got to put

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Speaker 1: together and uh make the plays when they're there. And

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00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: we didn't do that today. We turn it over and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, and that's what happens to blow out like

641
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: Bills show. We gotta get better and uh, like I said,

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Speaker 1: I thought, make it a good job getting the ball

643
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Speaker 1: out and you know, you know, a big rush on

644
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Speaker 1: the defensive and Jerry Hughes a couple of small plays

645
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: make a big difference in the NFL. You're margin for

646
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: air so slim, and whenever you leave give the offense

647
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: an opportunity, they're gonna take advantage of it, and that's

648
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: what they did on They scored a couple of times

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00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: that we would love to get back. It's just wasn't

650
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: our day. You know. We always pride ourselves on getting

651
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: the ball out for some turnovers, anything we can to

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00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: kind of help our offensive play, complimenting football, and it

653
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: wasn't in today. Lightning Beacker, Lorenzo Alexander. This Bills team

654
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: lacks consistency. I mean it's frustrating and we put ourselves

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00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: in a position where we're playing from behind a lot,

656
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: you know, not executing turnovers, allowing the score touchdowns in

657
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: the red zone, and it's just not um winning football.

658
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: I mean, we just not put laying up to a

659
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: good enough standard right now and just inconsistent as a

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00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: team right now. You know, defense plays well and then

661
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: the office when we're not doing well. I mean it's

662
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: just inconsistent. So we got to be able to play

663
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: better at the team as a unit if we want

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Speaker 1: to find ourselves and in a position to win a game.

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of what we're fighting for right now.

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Speaker 1: or just getting started here at One Bill's Drive with

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health, I'm Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: Radio ilcome back one goes live from One Bills Drive.

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00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker. Decent day here in Archer Parker

673
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Speaker 1: was beautiful yesterday, just to shame the way the game

674
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Speaker 1: played out, taking calls, reading tweets, been act to being

675
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: demented on Twitter so far today Steve we sound demented? Yeah,

676
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: about about saying, hey, if the game were like tomorrow,

677
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: who are gonna play it? Had? It almost had to

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00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: be Peterman, right, I don't know. I think it had

679
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: to be yesterday. I don't know who else yesterday. Yesterday

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Speaker 1: was the injury question. How they got here? And that

681
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: is my big how did we get here? How did

682
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: we get here? With the Peter? But he had to

683
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: start yesterday. It was a colossal roll of the dice

684
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Speaker 1: to go into the season with um a second year

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Speaker 1: quarterback who didn't start very you know, two or three

686
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Speaker 1: games in Peterman, no matter how he played in the

687
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: preseason it was a roll of the dice to go

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Speaker 1: in with him and Josh Allen. Only now they did.

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Speaker 1: And I knew, you know, AJ McCarron didn't want to

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Speaker 1: be here. He didn't want to be third string and

691
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Speaker 1: he wanted to play. And I think, you know, and

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Speaker 1: I think in looking back at it, when you know

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Speaker 1: your team is gonna draft a quarterback number one, it's

694
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Speaker 1: hard to get a guy to sign here as one

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00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: of those veteran backup guys to come in and be

696
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: at Derrick Anderson what he's gonna be now. They just

697
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: don't want to. They want to play. If they're gonna

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Speaker 1: come in, if all those old guys, those old veterans,

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Speaker 1: mccowns doing it right, Well, he didn't leave. He was

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00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: on a contract. He didn't leave, and that's his thing.

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00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: He wants to keep doing it because he wants to

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00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: be a coach. So he's a he's a special guy.

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Speaker 1: And listen, I was, I was all four, Josh McCown. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you know you're gonna have to pay the guy

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Speaker 1: a lot of money to come in and sit behind him,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think they were willing to do that.

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00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: Although you know, now it seems obviously they should have

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00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: paid whatever it took, you know, not necessarily for him,

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00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: but for better for somebody. Yea. And it took him

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00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: a long time to get Derek Anderson to say yes.

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00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: In the meantime, you know, they trade AJ McCarn who

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00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: they're they're getting crucified. I don't let folks, I don't

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00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: think a J. McCarron is gonna change the outcome of

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Speaker 1: any of these games we've played. It would have made

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Speaker 1: us feel better to have a third guy on there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe what do you think he would

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Speaker 1: have thrown the touchdown? I'm passing Houston may have come

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00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: out of there with a win if he doesn't throw

719
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: the thick pick six. But I don't know if he

720
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: would have been the next guy in anyway. Peterman would

721
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: have been anyway, because Peterman out played him, right, But anyway,

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00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: the point of the matter is they it was. It

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00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: was a colossal roll of the dice in Hinz and

724
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: now it looks like and I think a lot of

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00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 1: people will say they thought this, but I didn't colossal

726
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: roll of the dice to go in with that young

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00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 1: of a quarterback room. They were still looking to add

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00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: some pieces they were trying to get a guy to commit,

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00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: and they finally did, and as soon as they did,

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Speaker 1: somebody went down. So um with Peter. Now Peterman's the

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Speaker 1: last guy standing healthy. So I don't know how this

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00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: is going to change. And I think a lot of

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00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: people would say, listen, as soon as Derek Anderson's healthy

734
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Speaker 1: and Josh Allen's healthy, you know, Nathan Peterman should be

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Speaker 1: out on the street, you know what I mean. That's

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Speaker 1: gonna be the biggest thing that I don't know, given

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Speaker 1: how it's gone. People, what happens is one more guy

738
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Speaker 1: gets hurt, then you're gonna sign him right back because

739
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: he knows the offense. I don't know. It's a it's

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00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: a mess at quarterback because mostly because of the injuries.

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00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I think most of us would be all

742
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: in with Josh Allen self he was still healthy, Just

743
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: go ahead and play him, keep going, keep going, keep going,

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00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: no matter what it looks like. He's going to get

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00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: better because his arm and his abilities are going to

746
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: carry him through some tough spots. I get that. But man,

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00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: now that you've got two guys hurt, Wow, you know

748
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: you can't score points? They cannot score point? Call here

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00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: from Jeff and Raleigh, North Carolina. Hello, Jeff, go ahead,

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00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: how you doing well? First of all, Steve, I see

751
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: why you were always one of my favorite players. Man

752
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: support the Bills all the time. I hope you get

753
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. But I think sale is coming

754
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: around your partner there. Peterman has no business. I'd rather

755
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: said and send Barkley there yesterday, because I know one

756
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: was going to get with with Peter Man. If yesterday,

757
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: what's the best game he ever played? We don't need

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00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: to see anything else. We didn't need to see him yesterday.

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00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: Who do you want to play then, Jeff? Seriously, Barkley, anybody, No,

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00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: he couldn't be worse. He has been worse. It's been

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00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 1: worse than he was yesterday. We've seen Listen, We've seen yeah, Jeff,

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00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: we've seen Peterman. Listen, Jeff, we've seen Peterman play worse

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00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: than he played. Yes, that's what I'm saying, has been worse.

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00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: Yesterday was his best game and it was not acceptable. Well,

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00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: you can't say say he couldn't be worse, but it

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00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: has been worse, has been worse. And also, I mean,

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00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it would be unfair to Barkley and

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00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: the rest of the guys on the team just to

769
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: throw him in there, just because you don't want to

770
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: look at Peterman out there. And listen, let's let's remember this, Jeff.

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00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Jeff, remember three those three I mean

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00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: Peterman had they had four turnovers. Three of them were

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00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: on the receivers and crom I mean that's and he

774
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: the one and the one that he did throw was

775
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: you know, late, once again trying to make something happen.

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00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: But um, and you know what, you're another thing that

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00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: that Peterman did yesterday that everybody's crushing him for and

778
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: I would too. You got to throw the hail Mary

779
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: at the end of the first half. What are you doing?

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00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I get that. I mean that he deserves

781
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: to be he deserves to be punished for that. But yeah,

782
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 1: that do it. Didn't know his limits? Go ahead, Jeff,

783
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: what five yards on the field? That's right? You know, Jeff,

784
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: you know why they got no time to drop back,

785
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: They got no time to let droughts develop. That ball's

786
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: got to come out now, it's got to come out now.

787
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: Have played. That's why Matt Barkley, with a stronger arm,

788
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: could have played Matt Barkley walked in here on Tuesday night.

789
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: You think he was ready to play yesterday throwing passes

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00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: out in the flat, Yes, all day long? All right, well,

791
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: then what do you gained him? Then he's gone. Let's

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00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: go to a phill in North Down. I want to

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00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: hello Phil, Hello John, thanks for taking my call. Sure,

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00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: and I also want to a first comment I want

795
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: to make is that that guy Mike talking about the

796
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: out outside experience at the game, he hasn't been for

797
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: a while. Ever since they went to Disney Parking, the

798
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: tailgating has switched from private lots, So that's where all

799
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: the people are at his radio people are looking for.

800
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: That's where they are. It's not the same experience. It's

801
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: actually a lot better. So he's an exception to the rule. Okay, okay,

802
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: call was going to be about I think Matt Barkley

803
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: should have played because this is one thing that I

804
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: noticed from yesterday. The Chicago Bears had one hundred and

805
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: ninety yards of total offense. I would guess that this

806
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: is the first time the Bill's defense ever held somebody

807
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: under two hundred yards and lost by thirty two points. Sure,

808
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: since the only time in NFL history. Yeah, it's happened.

809
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: How that happens because Nathan Peterman is the worst quarterback

810
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: in NFL history. Not true, not yesterday. He was bad yesterday.

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Speaker 1: They have a terrible offense. They got an awful offense.

812
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: Is awful. Yesterday's problem. Part of it was hang on

813
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: just a second. Can you hang on this second, Phil, Yeah,

814
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: quarterback was part of yesterday's problem. Offensive line was a

815
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: bigger problem yesterday. A lack of production from the white

816
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: receivers is a big problem. They can't get Shanny McCoy

817
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: going on the list of issues, and they have several

818
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball yesterday. Quarterback was

819
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: not at the top of the list. That's all I'm

820
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: telling you. It wasn't good. He didn't play well, but

821
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Speaker 1: it wasn't the worst thing about their offense yesterday. I

822
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: firmly believe that John what I want him to do.

823
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: If Patrick DeMarco should never run out for a pass

824
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: ever again, you should block the guy. It's through the

825
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: leaky offensive line and then maybe any quarterback the day

826
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Speaker 1: the Peterman can throw to somebody else. I've been I

827
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: paid for those tickets yesterday. It's the first time I never,

828
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: I mean hurt me. It's the first time it hurt me.

829
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: I go to every game. Yeah, I get you, I

830
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: get your pain. Yeah, I get you fill every Listen, listen.

831
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Speaker 1: It's guys like you that make the And we said

832
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: it earlier in the show. Feel that the fans right

833
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: now are better than the team, no question about it.

834
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: They're they're doing, they're they're a phenomenal fan fan base,

835
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: and they you know, they deserve better and they got

836
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: it and most of them, and I think Murph and

837
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 1: I both believe it that it's on the it's it's

838
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: in the building. I think that I love the There's

839
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: a lot I love about this this uh, this front

840
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: office and this coaching staff. Certainly they made some mistakes

841
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: about you know, some things have not gone their way

842
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, uh, particularly well on the offensive

843
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: side of the ball, no question. But they're lining it

844
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: up and they've got this point on the horizon where

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00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 1: you know they they're gonna run out of these massive

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Speaker 1: excuses they have. When they came in, they took over

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Speaker 1: a club that was in a disarray financially, the roster

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Speaker 1: was a mess, and they're trying to get us fixed

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna take some time, but they do have.

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Speaker 1: They did make a bunch of moves to get a

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Speaker 1: quarterback that this franchise really needs. And we still don't

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Speaker 1: know if he's going to be the guy or not.

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Speaker 1: But they had every reason to believe that this offense

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Speaker 1: was going to be something a little bit different than

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Speaker 1: what they're getting right now. Maybe not vastly different. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it wasn't going to be the San Diego Chargers or

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs or the LA Rams, but I

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00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: had it plenty of reason to think it was gonna

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Speaker 1: be better than it was a year ago. All Right,

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Speaker 1: we're back with more One Goes Live from One Goals Driving.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Goal's

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Speaker 1: Live gen Rophy Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo studio

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Speaker 1: on this Monday. Following the Bills forty one to nine loss.

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Speaker 1: Sorry just got hung up there, forty one to nine loss.

865
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Speaker 1: I had to think, look at the scores, Steve, the Bills,

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Speaker 1: A wow, the games, they're just weird scores. You don't

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Speaker 1: see forty one to nine, twenty five to six, thirty

868
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Speaker 1: seven to five, forty seven to three. Those are just

869
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Speaker 1: unusual two to nothing, just bad scores, and unusually. I

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Speaker 1: think it's really it's an epic. Hey, um, Steve spread

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Speaker 1: to day in beautiful Seattle watching the Chargers and the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks and comes away with a couple of impressions. Right,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Sideline Sounds presented by Bows, the official headphones

874
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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. I was in Seattle, which is

875
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: notoriously one of the most the noisiest venues. You know what,

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Speaker 1: I heard, Murphy, Not just because I had my BOWS

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Speaker 1: noise canceling headphones on. It was because the Chargers went

878
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Speaker 1: in there. Twelve AFC teams before them had gone in.

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Speaker 1: None of them could win in Seattle against Russell Wilson,

880
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: he was twelve and oh against AFC opponents. The Chargers

881
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: went in and lumped them up. They got off to

882
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Speaker 1: a fast start, got them down by two scores. At halftime.

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Speaker 1: They were up by nine at halftime. Philip Rivers is

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Speaker 1: playing as well at this point of his career. He

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Speaker 1: is playing as well as he has ever played quarterback. Really,

886
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Speaker 1: they are really good. He gets it done. And I remember,

887
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Speaker 1: and I've told you that I've said this on the

888
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Speaker 1: show a number of times Frank Reich was the quarterback

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Speaker 1: coach there before he went to Philadelphia, won the World

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Speaker 1: Championship as the quarterback coach there, and now he's the

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Innneapolis Colts. When he talked about

892
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, he said he was an absolute savant about

893
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: what pre snap reads he got from the defense and

894
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: his ability to discern who was rushing and who was

895
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Speaker 1: not and get himself protected. The Chargers walked into a

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Speaker 1: really difficult environment and silence that crowd. Those are the

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Speaker 1: site sideline sounds I heard, presented by Bose, the official

898
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Speaker 1: headphones of the Buffalo Bills. The Chargers are for real, Murph.

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Speaker 1: They have one problem and just glaring. Their kicker is

900
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: two extra points in a field goal and almost lost

901
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: that game. In a game, they really lumped them up,

902
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Speaker 1: so they're gonna You can look for the waiver wire

903
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Speaker 1: to think maybe the Chargers are gonna change the kickers.

904
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Speaker 1: Caleb Caleb Sturgis might not be a Charger today or tomorrow. Oh,

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Speaker 1: they just cut him. J Harris just told him they

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Speaker 1: cut him today. I'm afraid you recommend anybody else be released.

907
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Speaker 1: Sounds better not. Let's queens gonna call you here for

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Speaker 1: the top of the hour, John and Cheek Dowaga. Hello John,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, Hey guys, thank for Jake mccam um. The

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Speaker 1: players are the players. This is what we have to

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Speaker 1: work with. I mean we just everybody, including the coach

912
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Speaker 1: sect except for this now high problem is other coaches

913
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Speaker 1: in the league will make it justice according to level

914
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Speaker 1: the players that they have. My question to you is

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Speaker 1: is it better is the upsive coordinators? Is he on

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Speaker 1: a fuel or is he in the book? I mean,

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Speaker 1: what do most of them do to me? I think

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Speaker 1: you could see John, that's a good question. They've done

919
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: it both ways. They did it upstairs earlier in the season.

920
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: They were downstairs when Josh Allen started. Um, and if

921
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: you've watched the play selection and all the stuff they've done,

922
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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you it's one of the times. And

923
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Speaker 1: I've heard and I knew this was I knew people

924
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Speaker 1: would say this. Hey, it's the offensive coordinator. I'll tell

925
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Speaker 1: you this. I've seen the play selection and the stuff

926
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Speaker 1: they're doing offensively. They are trying everything they can to

927
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Speaker 1: get somebody to do something offensively. They if they're trying wildcat,

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Speaker 1: they're trying quick passes, they're trying play action passes. They're

929
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Speaker 1: trying quick screens. They're trying you know, the uh, the

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Speaker 1: motions the end around the you know, the quick screen,

931
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Speaker 1: the quick sweeps, you know, the guy coming across the

932
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Speaker 1: trying motion shifts, personnel differences. They're shuffling their offensive line around,

933
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Speaker 1: trying to find a combination that'll work up front. Uh

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Speaker 1: they have go ahead, John, Are they of using their

935
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Speaker 1: own players by doing all that? Well, listen, they got

936
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Speaker 1: to try something. They can't just let go out there

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Speaker 1: and line up in in one tight end, two backs

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Speaker 1: and two wide receivers because they don't have the guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean that they're trying everything because nothing's working, and

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Speaker 1: as if it's not working, they're gonna try something new.

941
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Speaker 1: And it's up to the plat And I don't think

942
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Speaker 1: they're I don't think the players are confused. Um all right, wait,

943
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Speaker 1: I just think he should be upstairs myself. I think

944
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Speaker 1: they'll more. I think they'll see you, you know more

945
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Speaker 1: place three. He can take advantage and he will be hones.

946
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Speaker 1: You got you that guys are beginning. That's so fast,

947
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Speaker 1: and it seems to me like you'd be able to

948
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Speaker 1: hand line the better yeah, and there's different reasons for that,

949
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Speaker 1: and it's a good question. I mean, I think day

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Speaker 1: Ball is a guy who likes to be upstairs. I

951
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Speaker 1: think he's been upstairs before because they see the pig picture.

952
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,280
Speaker 1: They watch so much film and it's the old two

953
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: and they can see it better, like it's like what

954
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: they study from up top. But I think one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons he came down and maybe has come been

956
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Speaker 1: down since, and I'm not sure is he down met

957
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Speaker 1: now Murph. I think one of the reasons he came

958
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Speaker 1: down is because the quarterbacks he's working with have zero

959
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Speaker 1: experience in this offense, and he needs to be there

960
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Speaker 1: with him and they need to have conversations face to face,

961
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Speaker 1: looking at the pictures together. I think it's a communication

962
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Speaker 1: thing between series. As the reason he's been down lately,

963
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Speaker 1: because he got a rookie quarterback. He got Nate Peterman,

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Speaker 1: and he got Derek Anderson trying to get this and

965
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Speaker 1: and Derrick Anderson, you know, he was brand new to

966
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Speaker 1: the offense, so and Josh, I think it was the

967
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Speaker 1: same thing. They needed to have those conversations. So I

968
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: think ideally day Bo wants to be upstairs. But because

969
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: of the situation the quarterbacks are in with who's playing

970
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Speaker 1: and how and how much experience they have or how

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Speaker 1: the lack thereof. He's been down love late. So I

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Speaker 1: agree with you, John, it's a good question. But I

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Speaker 1: believe me I've seen from what I've seen on film

974
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: and watching the games, they are trying everything they can

975
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Speaker 1: possibly think of to find something that will work offensively, personnel, schemes, thoughts, creativity, everything.

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Speaker 1: Thanks John, Chris Brown. Coming up next from Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: dot Com. One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio, Buffalo Bills Radio Network. Sports update update

979
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. Whereas the recovery day for the

980
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills after yesterday's forty one to nine loss to

981
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears on Sunday. The Bills getting set for

982
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: their next game on Monday against the Jets. They've got

983
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: some injury issues. Chris Ivory, running back, led yesterday's game

984
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: with what appeared to be a shoulder injury. May be

985
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: an update on that later today. They're concerned about which

986
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks they might have available for this coming Sunday's game.

987
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: Does Derek Anderson come out of concussion protocol this week

988
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: may get some actors on that when head coach On

989
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: McDermott meets with the media late this afternoon. Maybe not

990
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: those Jets coming up Sunday on the road one o'clock.

991
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: The last game before the bye week for the Buffalo Bills.

992
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: Tom Brady outdueled Aaron Rodgers yesterday and doing the Patriots

993
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: beat the Green Bay Packers thirty one to seventeen, second

994
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: all time matchup between the two future Hall of famers.

995
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 1: Brady threw for two hundred ninety four yards in a touchdown.

996
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: James White ran for two scores. Six straight win for

997
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots. They are now seven and two. Tonight Monday

998
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: Night Football, the Tennessee Titans and the Dallas Cowboys, a

999
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Speaker 1: couple to three and four teams took up in Dallas

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00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: at eight T and T Stadium. Marcus Mariota coming back

1001
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Speaker 1: after rushing for thirty eight yards and throwing for one

1002
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Speaker 1: touchdown and one interception in their last game last week.

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Speaker 1: Rashad Jones of the Dolphins safety pulled himself from yesterday's

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Speaker 1: game against the New York Jets. Dolphins defense with an

1005
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Speaker 1: outstanding performance in their thirteen to six win over the Jets,

1006
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Speaker 1: but Rashad Jones left the game in the first quarter

1007
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Speaker 1: after ten defensive snaps. Head coach Adam gayzays, I've got

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Speaker 1: to look at the video and find out what everything

1009
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Speaker 1: entails and why Rashad Jones pulled themselve from the game.

1010
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Speaker 1: Drew Brees and the New Orleans Saints handed the Los

1011
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams their first loss of the season. Brees competed,

1012
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: completed a seventy two yard scoring past to Michael Thomas

1013
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: for a touchdown late and effectively ended the Rams perfect

1014
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: record and comeback bid as the Saints won at forty

1015
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Speaker 1: five thirty five yesterday at the Superdome. Savers off today.

1016
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: They get back on the practice ic tomorrow. Up next

1017
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 1: for them a road game against Montreal. I'm Thursday. Sabers

1018
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: split their two games over the weekend, one home and

1019
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: one on the road. That's the update from One Bill's Drive,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy's Steam Tasker starting our number two of One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live and joining us right now doing his Adam

1022
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Speaker 1: Schefter imitation again, is Chris Brown. You can't put that

1023
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: phone down for five minutes, Chris Brown, I can put

1024
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Speaker 1: it down, you can pick it up. I'm just saying,

1025
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Speaker 1: can he just won't. Chris Brown, Bills inside of Buffalo

1026
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Speaker 1: Bills dot Com, Welcome to the show. What are you

1027
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: getting text messages about how to fix the offense? What?

1028
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: What do you guys going on? If you are if

1029
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: you are a read them? It's another rough one, Chris

1030
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: in a series of rough ones, now three one sided

1031
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 1: losses in a row for the Buffalo Bills has everybody,

1032
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: I think fans we're hearing from them today, Media guys

1033
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: like you who cover the team and us and especially

1034
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: players and coaches, everybody scratching their head saying how are

1035
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: you going to get out of this? What do we

1036
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: gotta do? Well? I think you got to start with

1037
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: something that's very fixable, which is protecting the football. You

1038
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: don't need a lot of talent to protect the football.

1039
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: You just got to carry it properly, you know, be

1040
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: ready to absorb contact when it's coming and refuse to

1041
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: let go of the ball when people are ripping at it.

1042
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: And I hate to say it, but in the last

1043
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: four games, turning it over fourteen times, we do think

1044
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: the Jets are looking at this week on tape. They're

1045
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: looking at that. Yeah, and now teams are going to

1046
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 1: be trying all the more to rip the ball away

1047
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: from your ball carriers because you've put it on tape

1048
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Speaker 1: for an extended period of time, and you know teams

1049
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: are going to come into games thinking they could feast

1050
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: on you and feast on you know, the players that

1051
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: are handling the ball. What do you think in Nathan

1052
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: Peterman's game yesterday? We've got listening on Twitter accusing us

1053
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Speaker 1: of being demented. Yeah, which is actually better than sometimes

1054
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Speaker 1: other days. But what do you think of the way

1055
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman played yesterday? I mean, the thing that I

1056
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: struggle with is his passing game to me appears limited.

1057
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: Now is that because of the plays that Brian Dable

1058
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 1: is restricted to based on who he has at receiver

1059
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: and based on how long he believes the protection can

1060
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: hold up. I'm sure that's part of it. But the

1061
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: willingness to try to drive the ball down the field

1062
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: seems muted here. And I don't know if it's because

1063
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: they don't believe he can make those throws or if

1064
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: they don't believe they have enough around Peterman to execute

1065
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: those plays. Either way you slice it, it is a

1066
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: severely limited passing game, as evidenced by the numbers. But

1067
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: you go deep into the numbers, you look at yards

1068
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 1: per attempt and things like that. It is very pop gun.

1069
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: Well yeah, it is pop gun particularly and those they're

1070
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: gonna get skewed when it's a team that you know,

1071
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 1: through the ball forty nine times. I mean, that's way

1072
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: out of whack for a team like this. Well, and

1073
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: not only that, they can't run it and they get

1074
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: fall behind so far all of a sudden they're in

1075
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: they're in a hole that they got to feel like

1076
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: they got to throw the ball all over the joint

1077
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: just to get out of And he had thirty one

1078
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: completions and they went for one hundred and what sixty

1079
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: yards one one eighty one yards on thirty thirty one completions.

1080
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not a lot of bang for your buck.

1081
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: And you know it's not all Nathan. You know, yards

1082
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 1: after catch are sorely lacking. Two um, I mean I

1083
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: think this team has maybe maybe two fifty plus yard

1084
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: pass plays. One was the Zay Jones chuck in Week

1085
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: one that he had to come back for fifty seven

1086
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: yards from Josh Allen. The other one was in week

1087
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: three when Chris Ivory on a broken play was wide

1088
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: open on a throwback as Alan's head into the sideline

1089
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: and gets all the way down into a first and

1090
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 1: goal situation. I think that went for over fifty two.

1091
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: I think that's it for over fifty yards on a

1092
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: pass play. Only one of their eight touchdowns this season

1093
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: have come outside the red zone. Everything else has been

1094
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: in the red zone. My point is there's no big

1095
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: play capability to this offense in any way, shape or form,

1096
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: and it affords de opposing defenses to squat on stuff

1097
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: underneath because you've shown no ability to beat anybody over

1098
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: the top, and I think that hurts your quarterback, no

1099
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: matter who it is. Yeah, Peterman's arms not scaring anybody.

1100
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons and probably probably the main

1101
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 1: reason he was taken in the fifth round. And that's

1102
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: how they rate these guys. It's physically, and you might

1103
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: give him some bonus points for you know, if they're

1104
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: a smart guy, or if they're in a pro offense

1105
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: or this, or or if at a high check for

1106
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: him right right, or if they were you know, in

1107
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: a Division one, Power five conference or something like that.

1108
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: You know, that's added on top of the physical nature

1109
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: of it. So Peterman is a fifth round quarterback because

1110
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 1: he's a fifth round talent, which means his arm isn't

1111
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: gonna be like Josh Allen's, who's a top five pick,

1112
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: top seven pick. So that's why these defenses are like,

1113
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: you know, let's see if you can prove it. And

1114
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: in a perfect world, even a quarterback like Peterman with

1115
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: whose arm is not you know, as strong, he's got

1116
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: guys around them. They're gonna make a play for him.

1117
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: He's kind of guys around them are going to scare

1118
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: a defense, and the Bills don't haven't proven to have

1119
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: any of that in there. Arsenal Right's, um, it's an issue.

1120
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think there's any question about it.

1121
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: They're limited in so many areas on offense quarterback notwithstanding

1122
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: due to the fact that you have a physical talent

1123
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen who's experienced, you have a less gifted

1124
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: player in Nathan Peterman who's just as inexperienced, and then

1125
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: you've got a veteran quarterback who's new to the scheme,

1126
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: and those are your three choices. I know Barkley's on

1127
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: the roster also, but he just got here last week. Man.

1128
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: I let even know, if you can count him in

1129
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: the equation at this point, and you look at the

1130
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: receiving corps that's been well documented. The offensive line is

1131
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: in a state where they tried to give it as

1132
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: much rope as they could to show progress, signs of progress.

1133
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: Let's keep them together, see if they can get better.

1134
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: Apparently the deadline was week eight, because here in week nine,

1135
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: they're platooning people at right tackle, at left guard. You

1136
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: know why, a Teller, the rookie even came in at

1137
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: right guard for a little bit for John Miller who

1138
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: limped off the field late in the game. If you're

1139
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: platooning positions on the offensive line in week nine, it

1140
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: is a stark indication that it is just not good

1141
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 1: enough upfront. And I don't think anybody that's watched more

1142
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 1: than two or three games needs to be told that.

1143
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 1: But it was reinforced when the coaching staff basically confirmed

1144
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: it yesterday. Who came in at the guard? It was

1145
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: Wyatt Teller was in for a while. Was Butcher in there? No,

1146
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: it was Jeremiah Searles a tackle a tackle and for

1147
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: Jordan Mills, right. So yeah, I mean I agree with you.

1148
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: I mean all that stuff is true, and I think

1149
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: you know a lion's share of the problems. You could

1150
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: throw it at the offensive line, say hey, they haven't

1151
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: been good enough, because then the running game hasn't been

1152
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: good enough, which leads to problems in the passing game

1153
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: because you got young quarterbacks who aren't supposed to throw

1154
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: at forty nine times. I mean, I think none of

1155
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: us need to really make this comment, but Lashawn McCoy

1156
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: is better than twelve carries or twelve yards and ten

1157
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: carries for ten yards, which is what his numbers are

1158
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: in each of the last two weeks. The guy is

1159
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: a five time Pro Bowl performer, but he's not. He's

1160
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: gonna look like this when the people in front of

1161
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: him can't clear the way. I mean, that's what it's

1162
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: going to look like. And if ten thousand yards rushing

1163
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: in the league's he knows what he's doing. He's got

1164
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: more yards than anybody else in football since two thousand

1165
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: and nine from the running back position. He Chris, We're

1166
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: in the second half of the bill season now, and

1167
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: obviously the offense has been miserable for the first nine games.

1168
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: Is there any prospect of improvement? Because I'm beginning to

1169
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: think that maybe what we should all root for is

1170
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: as quick as possible to return to action. For Josh Allen,

1171
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: a healthy Josh Allen, a guaranteed healthy Josh Allen, and

1172
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: just sort of, you know, get through the rest of

1173
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: the season that way, with watching his development, his ups,

1174
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: his downs, and hopefully his progress. Do you think that's

1175
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: a realistic approach. I'm not saying him throwing him in

1176
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: there if he's not ready, but it seems to me

1177
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: that might be the most realistic way to look at

1178
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: the final seven games this year. What do you think

1179
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's the priority now? I mean, this team is

1180
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: not going anywhere this season. I think that's pretty much

1181
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: been put to bed. You know, you're sitting here at

1182
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: two and seven, and you know, so the priority does

1183
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: have to share, and it's not only Josh Allen. I'd

1184
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: get as many young players on the field as I can.

1185
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: I'd get Ryan Lewis on the field a cornerback. I

1186
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: think he's an intriguing prospect, a very capable physical talent

1187
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: with elite speed and catch up ability plays physically. I'd

1188
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: like to see more of him. Why can't Ray Ray

1189
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: McCloud play more. Why can't Cam Phillips play more. See

1190
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: what you have in these young players. You know, you

1191
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: know what a lot of these older players are and

1192
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: what they can do for you in this scheme, you've

1193
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: seen it for half a season. Put those young kids

1194
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: on the field, get them some valuable experience. You may

1195
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: stumble upon somebody that can make plays that you weren't

1196
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: anticipating even this early in their career, and now is

1197
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: the time to do it. The last seven games are

1198
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: a glorified audition for twenty nineteen as I see it. Yeah,

1199
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: I agree with you. We get a lot of calls,

1200
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: like we always do when the offense has struggled as

1201
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: bad as it has and the quarterbacks are struggling, they

1202
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: can't at the run game going, And why don't you

1203
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: go down the list of things that you've observed, because

1204
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: it always comes down they always say, Hey, the players

1205
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: aren't the problem, it's the coaching staff and the scheme.

1206
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: Go down the things that you've observed, And I just

1207
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: did it last segment, where you know, all the stuff

1208
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: that I've seen them try to get something going offensively.

1209
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: It's not like they've been sitting on their hands doing

1210
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: basic plays. But you're talking about personnel combinations motions. You're

1211
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: talking about wildcat offense. All this stuff have been going on,

1212
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: and it's obvious they're trying to get something, to find

1213
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: something that they will work. But none of it's gonna

1214
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: work if you don't have an offensive line that, as

1215
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: coach has said multiple times this season, they can't win

1216
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. They're not winning their battles

1217
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: up front. And I think that the offensive staff gave

1218
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 1: that group more than enough time to gel, come together

1219
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: and then improve, because I think everybody understands when you're

1220
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: put a new group together up front, it does take

1221
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: time to pull it all together and act as a unit.

1222
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: But this is an offensive line that it's clear to

1223
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: me Brian Dabele does not believe can execute a screenplay.

1224
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: We don't even see those because they're not mobile enough

1225
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: to get out there maybe with the exception of Russell

1226
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: Bodine yesterday, and it was a mess. It was a mess.

1227
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: So that's out of the playbook. You can't use that

1228
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 1: because you know, I know people are coming down hard

1229
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: on Dabele too. You know, he's he's part of the offense.

1230
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: I get it, but I said it this morning on

1231
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: our Monday Morning breakdown show. I think he's calling plays

1232
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: with a hand tied behind his back because you can't

1233
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 1: execute a screenplay. So when you got a defenders pinning

1234
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: their ears back and coming after your quarterback and you

1235
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: want to slow him down with a screen pass, you

1236
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: can't even turn to that as an option. I mean,

1237
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe you'd do a draw play, but man,

1238
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: almost nobody does that anymore. So I think the solutions

1239
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: are limited in scope because you have an offensive line

1240
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: that's limited in ability, and that just takes so much

1241
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: out of your playbook that now you become you run

1242
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: the risk of becoming predictable by virtue of the fact

1243
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: that you have reduced options to turn to because you

1244
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: can't execute the other things that you want to use.

1245
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: What do you think? I mean, you know, stuff comes

1246
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: out of every game, and we've been reinforcing some of

1247
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: our beliefs and some of our fears have been I've

1248
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: come to fruition about this team. But what do we

1249
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: learn about the club from a forty one to nine

1250
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: loss at home to a Chicago Bear team? And what

1251
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: can you take away from that to step forward? And

1252
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: what's the next step? What is the next step? I mean,

1253
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: I'll go back to it again. The first step is

1254
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: protecting the football. I mean, this team can't score points

1255
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: to begin with, so their margin for error in terms

1256
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: of ball security is zero. You can't turn the ball

1257
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 1: over because as soon as you do. I mean, look

1258
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: at the look at the Bears had three scoring drives

1259
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: on offense yesterday, right, Okay, do you want to know

1260
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: what they went for? Twenty three, thirty seven and fifty yards.

1261
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: Half of their possessions started on the Bills side of

1262
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: the football field, six out of twelve. I mean, this

1263
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: is a good defense, but I mean, how much more

1264
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Speaker 1: do you want to ask of that group? I mean, seriously, Well,

1265
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: that's not all. They also turn to pick a fumble

1266
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: recovery for a touchdown and a pick six, right, So

1267
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm not even counting that's right, I know. So that's

1268
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: out on top of that. So the defense and the

1269
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: special teams let them down too. They let Tarik Cohen

1270
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: completely outflank them on a reversal of field and we

1271
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: have the fifteen yard hit out of bounds penalty that

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01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: gives them the ball on the thirty seven yard line

1273
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: instead of their own half of the field. I mean,

1274
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: it's to the point now, and this is the fear

1275
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: that coaches have when you get on a losing streak.

1276
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:33,959
Speaker 1: You know, you just want to get a win, turned

1277
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: the tide, get get the vibe in the locker room

1278
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: better again. When you stretch into three games in a row,

1279
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: four games in a row, five games in a row,

1280
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: you run into a danger area. And I go back

1281
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,919
Speaker 1: to what Lorenzo Alexander told me two years ago. Under

1282
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan, he said, you're always going to have guys

1283
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: in the locker room that do everything the coach asks

1284
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: and more they go the extra mile guys. You know

1285
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna always have those guys, and you're always going

1286
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: to have guys that operate somewhere in the gray, guys

1287
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: that will kind of, you know, get the stuff done,

1288
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, go through the motions a little bit. And

1289
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: when things are going the wrong way in a season,

1290
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: they drift more towards the gray all the more. And

1291
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: that's why that's when you have to rely on your

1292
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: leadership big time. You don't. When you have a losing

1293
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: street that goes this long, that stuff creeps in where

1294
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: guys are like, what am I selling out for every Sunday?

1295
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: If we're not going to win, and that's a that's poison.

1296
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: That's poison, and if that spreads, then you have big problems.

1297
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: And we've seen it here in Buffalo under previous regimes. Unfortunately.

1298
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: You can go back to the two eleven season. The

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01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: team starts five and two and then they have a

1300
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: bad loss. The loss turns into two losses. That team

1301
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: ends up losing nine of their last ten and a

1302
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: five and two start turns into a six and ten finish.

1303
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't you can't let that creep into

1304
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: this locker room. And they are in one more loss here,

1305
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 1: and we're getting into that danger zone where you know,

1306
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: guys start a splinter off and man, what am I

1307
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: bust in my tails? Well it might be some now,

1308
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not in there, but I'm just saying,

1309
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 1: you're the momentum is building in a in a bad

1310
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: way where you run the risk of having some splinters,

1311
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, peeling off of you know, that team, And

1312
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: you don't want that, because that's that that jeopardizes everything

1313
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: that you're trying to build here. Chris Brown builds insider

1314
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: Buffalo bills dot Com. Let's take a call or two

1315
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: for Chris Eric in Connecticut. Hello, Eric, ahead, you're on

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01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: the air. Hey Murph, thanks for taking my call, Steve.

1317
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: I love the show, Hey, Chris Um. I know we've

1318
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: kind of been talking about it here for the first

1319
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: ten minutes, but I think you know, the dominoes that

1320
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: you mentioned, the office line, the playmakers, a wide receiver.

1321
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot that that table doesn't have

1322
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 1: to work with. And I get it, I totally get it.

1323
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: But how long is his leash? Do you think is

1324
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: it really? Because you know, I look at these plays

1325
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: and you mentioned before, Chris, and I think it's really

1326
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: from a fan standpoint, and I've seen every play. I

1327
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: just don't get what Dable's trying to do. I think

1328
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: he's trying to survive. I really do. I think he's

1329
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: that hamstrong. I mean, if you go top to bottom

1330
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: on this roster, on the offensive side of the ball,

1331
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: it is I mean, it's it's a barren wasteland in

1332
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. And you know, I get it.

1333
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's a performance based business and the offense

1334
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: hasn't performed. But I don't know if removing the coordinator

1335
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: from his position is the way to go here. That

1336
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: would be the third coordinator in three years under Sean McDermott.

1337
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 1: And I think we just agreed a few minutes ago

1338
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: Murph that priority number one here going forward is to

1339
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: develop the quarterback, Josh Allen. If you scrap the offense

1340
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: and bring in a new scheme, do you hamper that?

1341
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: Do you hinder that? I think you do. We've seen

1342
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: previous quarterbacks here have to go through changes in offensive schemes.

1343
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 1: We've seen it before and it hasn't boded well for

1344
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: any one of those guys. So I mean, if it's

1345
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: that bad and you feel you got to change it,

1346
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: I guess you change it. But I'd be hesitant to

1347
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: do that. I would rather fortify the roster with better

1348
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: personnel and see if that makes you better. I mean,

1349
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: it comes down to execution on the field, and you

1350
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: gonna have the best play call in the world, and

1351
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 1: you could be a genius as a play caller, but

1352
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: if you don't have people that execute those plays, you're

1353
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: not gonna look that smart. And here's another thing too, Eric,

1354
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: did you got to remember it? Brian Daybole is working

1355
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: for a defensive head coach, and that defensive head coach

1356
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: knows what they're good what they're doing offensively. He's in

1357
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: that room, Brian day Bole is explaining the play calls,

1358
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: the tactics, the whys and the wherefores of what they're

1359
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: doing offensively, and Sean mcdermot's got to be sitting in

1360
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 1: there going, yeah, what about this? What about this? What

1361
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: about that? And if Brian Dable's got a lot of

1362
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: good answers for the reasons he's doing the things he's doing,

1363
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: you can bet they're not going to fire him. He's

1364
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: they're thinking through everything they do, and Sean mcdermot's going

1365
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: to take that into consideration. There's no question if he

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01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 1: If he thinks Brian day Ball or any other assistant

1367
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 1: coaches dropped the ball or is not doing enough or

1368
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 1: given the players enough to work with, there will be

1369
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: some changes made. But you can bet if there aren't

1370
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: changes made, then that's a head coach and a coordinator

1371
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 1: who knows it's the players. They got to change out

1372
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: some players, and there's going to be some of that

1373
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: and maybe a little bit of both, But I don't

1374
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: think it's I don't think at this point with the

1375
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 1: guys that I've seen on the field for the Bills,

1376
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: you can't throw this at the offensive coordinator and say

1377
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: you stink because these great players you have on offense

1378
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: aren't playing well well. Murph and I discussed this earlier

1379
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 1: this morning. One other indication of the lack of talent

1380
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: that you have sometimes can rear itself in the penalty count.

1381
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: This team has got seventy penalties on the season. It's

1382
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 1: the third highest total in the league. And yes, pre

1383
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,600
Speaker 1: snap penalties are the ones you should correct. It's a

1384
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: mental error, granted, But when you have those physical penalties

1385
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: like holding, like pass interference, things like that, and you

1386
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,560
Speaker 1: have high numbers in those, it's an indication that you

1387
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: just don't have players capable of making the play based

1388
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 1: on their own ability. Got a cheat on the play

1389
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: to make a play, And Murph and I were discussing

1390
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: that this morning, and it's because you have a lack

1391
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: of talent in certain areas and they have to commit

1392
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: those penalties to try to make a play. And they've

1393
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: got seventy of them, I mean seventy penalties in nine games. Yeah,

1394
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: that's desperation penalties. You know, plays where you're you're getting

1395
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: beat any hold or you're you know it, pass interference,

1396
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,560
Speaker 1: all those stuff that happens in a play where you

1397
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 1: start to get beat and you start panicking about giving

1398
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: up a touchdown. Or they set a record yesterday, one

1399
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty three penalty yards in a game. That's

1400
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: the most enfranchise history for the Bills. Yeah, and it's

1401
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: also the most they've ever had by both teams get

1402
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: concepted combined, it's been the most ever for both for

1403
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 1: any game the Bills have played in. Both teams had

1404
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 1: more penalty yardage than any game in the history of

1405
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 1: either of this franchise. So yeah, it was a it

1406
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: was an ugly, ugly day. Recalled from a Ray in Buffalo.

1407
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Ray, you're on the air. Yes, Um, I

1408
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 1: feel this way. Listen, Um, the coach and their staff,

1409
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: they need to get rid of that because look, we

1410
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 1: don't we don't really have anybody basically like we don't

1411
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 1: have a quarterback. Um, we don't have no veterans. And

1412
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: the whole point is is that, you know, we did

1413
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 1: go to the playoffs. We had a good team, and

1414
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: now they got rid of all the good players. Now,

1415
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: now what they expect for the people that we have

1416
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: now they can't really, they can't really do it. They're young,

1417
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 1: they're young players. I mean, yeah, I mean I think

1418
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 1: you're off turning a little bit. Ray Um. They made

1419
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year, they won nine games last year.

1420
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 1: But I do think that most people understood that with

1421
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: the release of Tyrod Taylor, with the assets put into

1422
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,560
Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback in the first round and drafting that

1423
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 1: quarterback and committing to developing that quarterback, they may take

1424
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: a step back. The step back has been dramatic, much

1425
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: more dramatic than anybody thought it would. We talked about this, Steve.

1426
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: It's it's been a total collapse of the offense. But

1427
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: still I think it might be beneficial to you, Ray

1428
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: and all of us to at this point, nine games

1429
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: in or midway through the season, to take a step

1430
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: back and say, what did we expect this year? What

1431
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 1: were the goals this year? I maintain the goals the goal,

1432
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: the primary goal is to get Josh Allen developed and

1433
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 1: ready to play. Yeah, I think it was on the table,

1434
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,759
Speaker 1: but I think by and large, what fans are expecting.

1435
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 1: I think a lot of fans are realistic about that. Murph.

1436
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 1: I think what they're what's bothering them is they're not

1437
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: seeing progress. You know, from week three or four, you know,

1438
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: even Okay, they blew a game in Houston and the

1439
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: offense didn't come through. Fine, here we are three weeks

1440
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: later and we're not seeing progress. I think that's what

1441
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 1: bothers them. They don't need dramatic progress, like, hey, we

1442
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: scored forty points this week. I think they're just looking

1443
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: for them to show and demonstrate some measure of prot

1444
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: And granted, the quarterback injury situation has supremely compromised a

1445
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 1: lot of that because it's a new guy every week,

1446
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,799
Speaker 1: and that certainly hurts. I mean, it's the most important

1447
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 1: position on the field, and it's been a revolving door

1448
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 1: of guy coming through. But I think they're saying, where

1449
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: is the progress? You know, Okay, we're we got young

1450
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 1: guys that are coming along. Let's see him come along,

1451
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: and we're not seeing that. I agree, and I think

1452
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 1: that's the frustration. It's a young it's young quarterbacks and

1453
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: experienced quarterbacks playing with a B and a bad offense

1454
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: with bad talent around him, with guys who aren't playing

1455
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,600
Speaker 1: well around him, and you know it's gonna look like

1456
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 1: it does yea. But here's the thing. I'm not ready

1457
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: to chuck the whole kitten caboodle and start from scratch again.

1458
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: What this franchise had the wherewithal to do. And with

1459
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,719
Speaker 1: a defensive coach, you'd expect it. He fixed the defense

1460
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: right away, thinking that defense would be enough to keep

1461
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: him in games. And I said this earlier. Nobody saw

1462
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: this colossal failure on the offensive side of the ball.

1463
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: Nobody did. And even with a young even with young quarterbacks,

1464
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 1: you would think somewhere in there there's gonna be enough

1465
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: guys in there to give them a chance to be successful.

1466
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: It has not materialized. So I'm so you got to

1467
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: know that's job one for this coaching staff. If you

1468
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 1: bring if that all goes away, if you're going to

1469
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: chuck the whole thing into the into the dust bin,

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Speaker 1: you can't. I mean, you can't do that. When it

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01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 1: comes down, it comes down, it's a huge mistake. It's

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01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: a confluence of events, it really is. You know, it's

1473
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 1: it's turnover being upside down on the turnover differential. I mean,

1474
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: the Bills are minus nine on the season. In the

1475
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: last four games alone, they've got fourteen turnovers, four takeaways.

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01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: That's a minus ten. And then you've got an offensive

1477
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 1: line that can't establish the line of scrimmage, you can't

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01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: run the football, and you've got a revolving door a

1479
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: quarterback do primarily to injury more than ineffectiveness in the

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01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: players that are playing are limited by the talent they

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01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 1: have around them. So you add all those three things

1482
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: together and it's the reason why the Bills are scoring

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01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: touchdowns at a rate of seven and a half percent

1484
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 1: of their offensive possessions. They are eight for one hundred

1485
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 1: seven this season touchdowns. I mean, that's the lowest in

1486
01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: the NFL. You didn't have to tell Yeah, we knew.

1487
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: We don't need to feel it. We feel we feel

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01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: that in our bones. We don't need the numbers keeps

1489
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 1: us awake at night. Hey there, Chris, Before I let

1490
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: you go, there is a long list of injury concerns. Uh,

1491
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,560
Speaker 1: they'll take us through the week. Maybe McDermott answer some

1492
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: questions about him today, maybe not, but just take us

1493
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: through the list. There's a lot of guys that we're

1494
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 1: gonna have to keep an eye. Yeah, I mean typically

1495
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 1: on Monday we'll get at best, you know, either a

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01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 1: week to week or a day to day designation for

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01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: a player. I think a lot of people feel fearful

1498
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: that the Chris Ivory injury was pretty serious and he

1499
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:33,719
Speaker 1: was a guy that was one of the few people

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01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 1: that could actually move the football on the ground for

1501
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 1: this offense. He was came into last week's game third

1502
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: in the league and yards after contact, and we all

1503
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 1: know the running backs are seeing an awful lot of

1504
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 1: contact even before they get to the line of scrimmage.

1505
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: But you know, we're gonna get a designation on him. Yep. Um.

1506
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 1: You know, Trent Murphy, where is he at? He's missed

1507
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 1: the last two games with the knee injury that he

1508
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: suffered in Indianapolis. Derek Anderson, Tremaine Edmonds. Are they out

1509
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 1: of concussion protocol? Are they still in the protocol? You know,

1510
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: so there's a there's long list of guys, and obviously

1511
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 1: Josh Allen we started throwing late last week. You know,

1512
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: from what we understand, has been doing some rehabilitation throughout

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01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 1: the weekend. So where is he at? You know, we

1514
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 1: know that coach talked to our television partner w KBWTV

1515
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: after the game yesterday did say he did throw. Didn't

1516
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: want to rule him out for this week, but it

1517
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 1: seems like things are trending toward him getting back in

1518
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 1: the lineup after the bye week, but hopefully coach shed

1519
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 1: some light on that. All of these answers coming up

1520
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 1: on Buffalo bills dot Com. Right, yeah, we'll have me

1521
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: a question, you can. We'll have me a quick hits,

1522
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 1: so after he's done, we'll get to work, all right,

1523
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 1: all right, man, Chris Brown Bills inside of Buffalo Bills

1524
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 1: dot Com. Steve and I back with more Mini Schmida's

1525
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 1: gonna join us talking about the New York Jet. That's

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01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:42,759
Speaker 1: coming up next is One Deals Live from One Bills

1527
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 1: Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back, One Bill's Live

1528
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 1: from One Bills Drive, Jamber. If he team tasker in

1529
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 1: our beautiful, sumptuous one Buffalo studio inside the someone's got

1530
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: to be good like that caller earlier complained about the Burghers,

1531
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, someone's good here, isn't. The studio is great.

1532
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: We got that going on. We're still buddies, We're still friends,

1533
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: still plowing through the day. We're here until three. Today

1534
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 1: we got Fred Jackson coming up at two, joining us

1535
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 1: now right now on the Subway Fresh Day Hotline. Happy

1536
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 1: to have the guy who was the beat reporter covering

1537
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: the New York Jets for the New York Daily News,

1538
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 1: Venishan Meta, Hello on h John Murphy and Steve Tasker

1539
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. Are you I'm good. How are you

1540
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: guys doing. We're okay, We're I feel like we're leading

1541
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 1: parallel lives in some respects. Right, you know what interceptions

1542
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: look like, you know what a struggling offense looks like.

1543
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 1: After the Jets game yesterday, Yeah, that was pretty rough

1544
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: to watch. I thought it was Sam Donald's worst game

1545
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: of the season prior to that. You know, I don't

1546
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 1: know about statistically, but I thought his worst performance was

1547
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 1: Week three on that short week in Cleveland. But he

1548
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 1: was just unsure of himself. You know, he didn't see

1549
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: the field particularly well. He looked like a rookie. I mean,

1550
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,759
Speaker 1: he probably looked like a bad rookie, to be perfectly honest.

1551
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 1: And you know, you know, I don't want to pile

1552
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: on here, but I think the fact that a playing

1553
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 1: the Bill next week, you know, might help matters. Yeah,

1554
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 1: I mean, they the Jets really have to think that

1555
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 1: they're going to be, uh, you know, have their way

1556
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills. The way their offense has been playing. Certainly,

1557
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 1: the Bill's defense is playing really well, but you know,

1558
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 1: a field goal may do it next week. Yeah, Look,

1559
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Jets uh at least the

1560
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 1: way they've been playing recently over the last several weeks.

1561
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're in a position to blow

1562
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 1: anybody out. I know that their eight point favorites over

1563
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 1: Buffalo for whatever that work. But the fact that it

1564
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: is a home game certainly bodes well for them. They

1565
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: just not have not you know, they have not looked

1566
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,640
Speaker 1: good offensively, frankly, for these last three weeks. It's it's unusual,

1567
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 1: you know, in a you know, nine weeks into the season,

1568
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 1: to have two three game losing streaks. But that's kind

1569
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 1: of where the Jets are sitting at. And their defense.

1570
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 1: You know, you had mentioned Steve that Buffalo's defense, you know,

1571
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: for the most part, has been pretty solid. This defense

1572
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: over the last several weeks for New York has been

1573
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,040
Speaker 1: very good. And yesterday, frankly, I still can't believe that

1574
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: they lost the game in which they gave up only

1575
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: seven first downs, one hundred and sixty eight totally yards

1576
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: and three point one yards of play. You know, typically

1577
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 1: that's the dominant performance in this league, and you should

1578
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 1: win barring something you know crazy, I'll see, I'll see

1579
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 1: you that nine. I mean, we had our four turnovers,

1580
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 1: you had the four interceptions by Donald, Right, that's the

1581
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,560
Speaker 1: common thread there. Yeah. Look, look the last one was

1582
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 1: a you know, desperation fourth down eve. But that being said,

1583
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 1: you know, three interceptions is bad. And to be honest

1584
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: with you, there were at least two times that I

1585
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 1: can remember in which Miami UH defenders dropped the ball,

1586
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: you know that literally were in their hands and it

1587
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 1: was a bad read by Donald. I think the issue

1588
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 1: with Donald right now is that he is having some

1589
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: difficulty moving off of his first read. I think it's

1590
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 1: more of an internal thing with him. You know, when

1591
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 1: do you move off that first read and go go

1592
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 1: to the second and third read. It seems like it's

1593
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: you know, simple, like when you talk about it, you know,

1594
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 1: UH on talk radio amongst fans. But for him that

1595
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 1: it's been really an issue over the last several weeks.

1596
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 1: He just hasn't been able to pull the trigger in

1597
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 1: terms of moving off a first read that's covered and

1598
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 1: if he waits too long that kind of ruins the

1599
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 1: entire play. So I think, you know, moving to that

1600
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 1: second and third progression for him is the next optacle.

1601
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 1: You know, he had not had real issues with it

1602
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: earlier in the year, but he seems to be having

1603
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 1: that in this middle portion of his rookie season. Well,

1604
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 1: let's still talk about Sam Donald though he overall give

1605
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 1: us a big picture. I mean, it seems as though

1606
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 1: he was he maybe a little bit of a roller coaster,

1607
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: but it does seem like he's getting better. Despite what

1608
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 1: happened yesterday, He's still I don't think very many people

1609
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 1: are gonna pull the rip chord on his career just yet.

1610
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 1: I think there's still a lot of hope and a

1611
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 1: lot of upside scene in Sam Darnald despite yesterday's poor performance.

1612
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 1: Of course, this is his rookie year. He's halfway through

1613
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: a one game past the midpoint of his rookie season. Now,

1614
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 1: I thought he was trending in the right direction the

1615
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 1: first six weeks. Against Indianapolis in Week six, he completed

1616
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: eighty percent of his passes, had thirteen hundred fourteen I

1617
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 1: think passer rating if if I remember correctly, it's just

1618
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: these last three weeks against Minnesota and then on the

1619
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 1: road in Chicago in some rough weather, and then in

1620
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 1: Miami yesterday in which he is now he is taking

1621
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 1: a step back. I know you have to be objective

1622
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: about it, but you know he has taken a step back.

1623
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: That doesn't necessarily mean he's regressed, because in my mind,

1624
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 1: regress means that you're making the same mistakes over and over.

1625
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 1: You're not learning from the errors that you are making.

1626
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 1: And look, every defensive coordinator is going to throw something

1627
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 1: new at Sam Darnold, something that he hasn't seen before

1628
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: because he's only been in the league for nine for

1629
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:40,599
Speaker 1: nine games, so this is a growing process for him,

1630
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,679
Speaker 1: a learning process for him. What I thought was interesting

1631
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 1: yesterday after the game was that when Todd Bowles was

1632
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 1: asked if he would consider benching Sam Darnold, he said

1633
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,640
Speaker 1: not at this time, And to me, he would be

1634
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 1: a really a grievous mistake to bench Darnold at any

1635
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 1: point barring injury. Of course, this season, you need him

1636
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 1: to go through everything he's going through. He's gonna make

1637
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:03,639
Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes. He's gonna make a lot of mistakes,

1638
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 1: So be it for the betterment of him as a player,

1639
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 1: and most importantly the betterment of the organization. You have

1640
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 1: to allow him to experience failure and see him, uh,

1641
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, respond to it. Maybe he won't be favorably

1642
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: in twenty and eighteen, but certainly if he is the

1643
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 1: player that everybody believes that he will be, then I think,

1644
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 1: you know, all of the mistakes, all of the rough

1645
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 1: patches this year will be for you know, it will

1646
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 1: be for good ultimately. With Menischmida, who covers the Jets

1647
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: for the New York Daily News their NFL columnists Minisha,

1648
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: I've seen maybe four Jets games so far this year.

1649
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 1: Each one of them, I've come away impressed with the

1650
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: work of safety Jamal Adams, a former first round pick.

1651
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 1: And then I saw his quotes from Miami yesterday. He

1652
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: was really bothered by that loss yesterday, right, and said,

1653
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm not a loser. It sounds like they're almost at

1654
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,640
Speaker 1: a boiling point down there. Huh. Well, look, I think

1655
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams takes losses terribly. Every loss. Yeah, he just

1656
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 1: kind of in ternalizes it. Yesterday. It was the first

1657
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,640
Speaker 1: time in which he was somewhat expansive in terms of

1658
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 1: expressing his frustration. What I will say is that even

1659
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 1: though he's the second year player. He's really the leader,

1660
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: without a doubt, the leader of this defense. You can

1661
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 1: make a strong case that he's the leader of the

1662
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: team at this point, which is unusual for a second

1663
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: year safety. But he's a player that people listen to,

1664
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 1: and people on offense, people on defense. People have been

1665
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 1: in the league for ten years or you know, one

1666
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: or two years, so he has that presence about him.

1667
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 1: I don't think anything he says is malicious in any way.

1668
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 1: I don't think it's said or meant in any kind

1669
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 1: of way to divide the team. In fact, I think

1670
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 1: it's quite it's the opposite. He's he's the primary galvinizer

1671
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 1: inside that locker room. So that's just frustration. You know,

1672
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 1: he's you still winning culture at LSU. He obviously won

1673
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 1: a lot in high school, like most of these guys did.

1674
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, losing eleven games last year

1675
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,639
Speaker 1: and now losing six at seventeen games and he's probably

1676
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 1: never lost seventeen games in the first twenty one twenty

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Speaker 1: two years of his life were mine. So you know,

1678
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: that's a tough pill to swallow. But you want guys

1679
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 1: like that, you want alpha guys like that, competitive guys

1680
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 1: like that. Who are not gonna be okay with losing

1681
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 1: because you get into that malaise, then you'll never you'll

1682
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 1: never break out of it. So, frankly, I think this

1683
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: team needs a lot more Jamal Adams on the roster. Well,

1684
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: he's he's pretty frustrated. They gave up thirteen points in

1685
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:26,560
Speaker 1: the loss yesterday to the Dolphins. Who else on the

1686
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 1: Jet defense is playing well? I mean they are playing

1687
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 1: extremely well. Give us some other names about guys who

1688
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: maybe have emerged or maybe who have flown under the

1689
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,759
Speaker 1: radar until this year. But is it a group effort

1690
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 1: or are there some guys standing out well. Avery Williamson

1691
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: was a good free agent signing for them. They got

1692
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,919
Speaker 1: him from Tennessee. He's kind of been the their quarterback

1693
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 1: on the defense, anchoring the middle of that defense on

1694
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 1: the linebacker spot. In the first about you know, four

1695
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 1: or five weeks. Henry Anderson, a guy who they made

1696
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:58,560
Speaker 1: a draft day traits for with Indianapolis, has done a

1697
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 1: good job and he's kind of a guy who's playing

1698
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 1: the role that the Jets doot Nathan Shepherd, their third

1699
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 1: round pick this year, would ultimately play, and the Shepherd's

1700
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:08,879
Speaker 1: kind of getting worked in a little bit, but Anderson

1701
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: certainly stood out in the first you know, I would

1702
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 1: say probably five maybe six games of the season. Avery

1703
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:16,640
Speaker 1: Williamson again is kind of a rock solid guy in

1704
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 1: the middle, and Darren Lee hasn't been exceptional, So I

1705
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 1: don't want to mislead you, guys, but he's certainly played

1706
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 1: better than I know a lot of people in the

1707
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 1: building thought he would play this year. He's a first

1708
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 1: round pick. You expect a lot of big things out

1709
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: of first round picks, but he did have a kind

1710
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 1: of a, you know, a rocky first couple of seasons.

1711
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 1: So he's clearly playing the best football that he has

1712
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 1: played since he came into the league. Again, not exceptional,

1713
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 1: but he's probably, as weird as it sounds, overachieved to

1714
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 1: this point in his third seasons. Thanks for this. We're

1715
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 1: looking forward to getting down there this week. Maybe we'll

1716
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 1: get a decent game to look at on Sunday. Thank

1717
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: you very much, Thanks guys, Take care. Niche Matter covers

1718
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 1: the Jets for the New York Daily News. He is

1719
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 1: their NFL columnists. He joined us Sound of the Subway,

1720
01:24:56,439 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 1: Fresh Day, Hotline, Subway Eat Fresh Steve Tasker, Murphy one

1721
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

1722
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: It's the snap five man rush. Trubisky gets away from pressure.

1723
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 1: Now he's in trouble, gets away to the right side.

1724
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: Full come tout us modeled the forty scrambling to row

1725
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 1: for it. Let's say evens got it the Bears recover

1726
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 1: back of the forty one yard line. Julian Stanford, Bills linebacker,

1727
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,560
Speaker 1: started yesterday's first start in a couple of years. He

1728
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: comes up with the advanced Alarm defensive play of the game.

1729
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 1: Advanced Alarm providing Western New York's homes and businesses with

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01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: the finess and security and home theater the preferred alarm

1731
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 1: and home theater provider of the Buffalo Bills. John Murphy,

1732
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here in our one Buffalo studio. Fred Jackson

1733
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 1: coming up at two. I'm gonna talk more in the

1734
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:54,679
Speaker 1: next hour or more about the yesterday's loss, that forty

1735
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 1: one to nine loss for the Bills to the Chicago Bears,

1736
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 1: but also stuff going on on the leat or going

1737
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 1: on around the league. Steve, a couple of amazing celebrations

1738
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 1: yesterday one in the NFL. I want to show you

1739
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 1: if you're watching on television, or at least talk about

1740
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:11,839
Speaker 1: with Steve. The Saints get a touchdown, a league touchdown,

1741
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 1: go up by ten points. Michael Thomas scores and then

1742
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 1: proceeds to the bottom of the goalpost where he had

1743
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 1: previously secretly implanted a cell phone. It's a mirror image

1744
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 1: of a celebration, a touchdown celebration from Joe Horn back

1745
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 1: in two thousand and three. He digs out the cell phone,

1746
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 1: pulls it out. It's a flip phone, the guy you

1747
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: would have in two thousand and three, and that's his

1748
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 1: touchdown celebration. He'll be fined. He was penalized Saints one,

1749
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 1: so I guess no problem there. They won by about

1750
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:47,799
Speaker 1: ten points. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah, hey, listen with your breezes,

1751
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: your quarterback. You know, somebody's gonna catch a touchdown pass

1752
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 1: and to go out there pregame, you know, hang out

1753
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 1: and then kind of surreptitiously slide the cell phone under

1754
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 1: the thing and actually catch a touchdown in that end zone.

1755
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 1: That's pretty that's pretty cool. I think there's a phone

1756
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 1: in the other end zone too, may have you know.

1757
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 1: I think he put him in the smart I think

1758
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: he had some stats. Yes, so he figure it's crazy. Yeah,

1759
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: what if he doesn't score? It is he setting somebody

1760
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 1: out there after the game. Well, there's something I left

1761
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 1: under the goal post. And again it might have been

1762
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 1: like a two dollar toy phone too. I mean, listen,

1763
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: you know they weren't. You know, it's an amazing Jim

1764
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 1: Nance said when Joe Horne did it a cell phone

1765
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 1: perceptions and there's horrible you know it was fake, all right,

1766
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:29,719
Speaker 1: And here's the celebration of the day, and it happened

1767
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 1: for there they the Ottawa Red Black, the Ottawa Red

1768
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 1: Blacks in the CFLA, and it is one phenomenal celebration.

1769
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 1: You gotta look it up. If you don't, if you're

1770
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,600
Speaker 1: on radio, you gotta take some time. Uh, it is

1771
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:47,719
Speaker 1: absolutely awesome. So the the lineman caught they score, runs

1772
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 1: to the sideline, grabs a beer from his girlfriend in

1773
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:53,759
Speaker 1: the first row and shoot some beer and it's too

1774
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: crushes the can against his helm, and he scored the

1775
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: touchdown and ran in hoard the whole beer down his

1776
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,640
Speaker 1: down through his face mask and then crushed the can

1777
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 1: against his That's pretty good. Great, that's great. I find

1778
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:09,600
Speaker 1: what do you think it might be one of my

1779
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 1: all time favorites. Head on the back, Oh all of that.

1780
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: Here's what he said after, what his reasons for doing that,

1781
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 1: What he had to say after shooting a beer after

1782
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 1: scoring a touchdown in the CFL game. Here he is, Yeah,

1783
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 1: I got a little thirsty, I thought, Quinci. So now

1784
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:27,640
Speaker 1: that was good fun. It was all fun. It was

1785
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 1: the last regular season game. It's it was all good fun.

1786
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 1: So hopefully I don't get into trouble too much. So

1787
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 1: let's sen Was it something you had thought of trying

1788
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 1: to do earlier in the season, or just one spontaneous

1789
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 1: small where the synapses were clicking and you said, I'm

1790
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 1: gonna go with this and see where it takes me.

1791
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 1: It was like probably four years ago. I thought about it,

1792
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: and then I finally pulled the trigger. So that was

1793
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: it was. I thought about it before, so finally pulled

1794
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 1: the trigger on it. That might have been some poor student.

1795
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 1: That's like a tell dollar beer. And then you took problem.

1796
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 1: That was my girlfriend? Was it? Now? How's my girlfriend?

1797
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 1: That could be an expensive beer? Though now I think

1798
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 1: she got a calm too. That's great. Yeah, it's one

1799
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 1: of the all time greats. That and you know he

1800
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,680
Speaker 1: thought it was the last regular season game up in

1801
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 1: the CFL and the playoffs start next weekend, and and

1802
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:20,640
Speaker 1: he probably figured it's time now, you know that. Uh

1803
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 1: it was. It was great. He pulled it off really well,

1804
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 1: sat there, chugged it. Teammates waited for him, and he

1805
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,640
Speaker 1: crushing a can against his helmet. Was the was The

1806
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 1: cappert was a great, great one. A couple of good

1807
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 1: celebration yesterday. We're gonna talk about Fred Jackson next time

1808
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 1: with the show. Come on back for that. One Bill's

1809
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 1: Live presented by Collat of Health. From One Bill's Drive.

1810
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:53,799
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio, All Bills Radio Network. Story suck.

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01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 1: The update from One Bills Drive A familiar feeling on

1812
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 1: this Monday. After four consecutive losses, the Bills are right

1813
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 1: back Kata, trying to put the pieces back together, trying

1814
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 1: to get ready for another game, one more game before

1815
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:05,599
Speaker 1: the bye week. They had to New York to play

1816
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 1: the Jets next Sunday. Bill's coming out their forty one

1817
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 1: to nine loss to the Chicago Bears yesterday, a game

1818
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 1: with the four turnovers for the Buffalo Bills. They've got

1819
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: to fix that, obviously. They've got injuries to deal with

1820
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 1: as well. It remains to be seen when they get

1821
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback Josh Allen back. Able to get in some

1822
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 1: light throwing over the last few days, but Bills are

1823
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 1: not saying yet whether he will be ready to play

1824
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 1: this week. Maybe they'll wait till after the bye week.

1825
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:30,639
Speaker 1: They had an injury a couple of injuries yesterday, including

1826
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 1: the running back Chris Ivory, who's been their best running

1827
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 1: back over the last several weeks. Here. Chris Ibory left

1828
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 1: the game with what appeared to be a shoulder injury.

1829
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 1: Charles Clay left yesterday's game with a injury as well,

1830
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 1: a hamstring pull. Do they get Trent Murphy back after

1831
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 1: a couple of games out with his knee injury. We

1832
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 1: may find out a little about that today and other

1833
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 1: injuries as well. Head coach Sean McDermott meets with the

1834
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 1: media late this afternoon. Some details may be coming out then.

1835
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 1: Then the Bills come back for practice on Wednesday to

1836
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:59,679
Speaker 1: get ready to play the New York Jets on Sunday. Yesterday,

1837
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 1: Breeze and the New Orleans Saints handed the Los Angeles

1838
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 1: Rams their first loss of the season. Breeze completed a

1839
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 1: seventy two yard touchdown passed to Michael Thomas in the

1840
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 1: winning moments of the game, and the Saints beat the

1841
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 1: Rams thirty five, ending the Rams bid for a perfect

1842
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 1: record there now eight and one. The Saints record is

1843
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 1: now seven and one. The Dolphins turned in an excellent

1844
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:22,640
Speaker 1: defensive performance yesterday in their thirteen to six win over

1845
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 1: the Jets, four sacks, four interceptions, but one of their

1846
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 1: top players, safety Rashad Jones, left the game in the

1847
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 1: first quarter. He played ten defensive snaps did not return

1848
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 1: to the field. Dolphins coach Adam Gates trying to figure

1849
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 1: out what the story is with a tonight Monday night

1850
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 1: football for the Tennessee Titans and the Dallas Cowboys, a

1851
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 1: couple of three and four teams hooking up at eight

1852
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 1: and T Stadium outside Dallas that kickoff schedule tonight at

1853
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 1: eight fifteen, and the Buffalo Sabers off until Thursday when

1854
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 1: they play a road game against Montreal. The Sabers split

1855
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,560
Speaker 1: their two games over the weekend, including the loss in

1856
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 1: the Garden against the Rangers last night. Here we Go,

1857
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:56,680
Speaker 1: hour three of the show John Murphy Steve Tasker one

1858
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 1: does live from one does drive. You're ready to go

1859
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 1: for a Thur number three? There, let's go, man? Are

1860
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 1: you ready joining us on the line right now? Happy

1861
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 1: to have him. He is a co host of Bills

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01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 1: Tonight with Mike Catalina eleven thirty on MSG. Longtime Bills

1863
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 1: running back Fred Jackson on the line with us. Hello, Frankis,

1864
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tasker here in Buffalo. How you doing?

1865
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 1: Fella's not doing well? How are you guys doing? Not badly?

1866
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,640
Speaker 1: You know, we're trying to cope with the fourth consecutive

1867
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 1: loss and really an offense that has been in kind

1868
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 1: of a stall for most of the season. Fred, what

1869
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 1: do you see? What are the issues you think for

1870
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:31,599
Speaker 1: this Buffalo offense? Uh? I wish I knew. Uh, it's

1871
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 1: it's it's it's definitely tough to watch, I think. I mean, obviously,

1872
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 1: being a running back, I think if they can get

1873
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 1: that running game improved, it's gonna take a lot of

1874
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 1: weight off of, you know, everybody else's shoulder. But you know,

1875
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 1: I think they need to get you know, everybody on

1876
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 1: that offense just has to step up and hold themselves accountable.

1877
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:52,639
Speaker 1: And you know, it's not it's not a lack of effort.

1878
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 1: You know, you see everybody out on the feel trying. Um,

1879
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 1: they just gotta start making more plays. And I think

1880
01:32:57,479 --> 01:32:59,679
Speaker 1: that once they do that, you know, it definitely feel

1881
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 1: a lot in that locker room. What is it like

1882
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 1: when you get out there and what every good you're

1883
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 1: doing seems to be sabotaged by turnovers? I mean it's

1884
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 1: a team they turned it over four times yesterday, got

1885
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 1: a couple of tipped interceptions, they fumbled it away once

1886
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 1: as well, and then uh, you know then they got

1887
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:16,640
Speaker 1: a good catch on an interception as well. So I

1888
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 1: mean four turnovers and given the given the Bears short

1889
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 1: fields to have three scoring drives and really put the

1890
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 1: game away, how frustrating is it? And when you're in

1891
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 1: the locker room is an offense, what do you say

1892
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 1: to your teammates about turnovers? Yeah, I mean it's it's

1893
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 1: the hardest thing to overcome in the game. You're out

1894
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 1: there playing against the top five defense anyway, and the

1895
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 1: worst thing you can do is help those guys. So,

1896
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:43,640
Speaker 1: m it's frust It would be frustrating, And it is

1897
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:46,800
Speaker 1: frustrating when you're trying to get something established and every

1898
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 1: time you go out to make a play. You know,

1899
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,639
Speaker 1: you have a tip balled, at least a pick six,

1900
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 1: you have a strip fumbled at least so another you know,

1901
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 1: six points. So as an offensive unit, all you can

1902
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: do is just keep going back to work, keep plugging

1903
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 1: at it, uh and you know, hopefully get some things

1904
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:06,639
Speaker 1: turned around. Uh. They looked good at moments yesterday where

1905
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 1: they were moving the ball. UH, And I think they

1906
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 1: just got to focus on that. If you focus on

1907
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,759
Speaker 1: the things that you are doing well and uh continue

1908
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 1: to do those things well and not turn the ball over, uh,

1909
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:19,680
Speaker 1: it definitely gives you a better chance to win football. Now,

1910
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 1: if Fred, in your years in Buffalo, you've been around

1911
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 1: some seasons that have gone horribly wrong and not really

1912
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 1: not too much in the in the distant past, I wonder,

1913
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 1: what's it feel like when things are going bad as

1914
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:33,719
Speaker 1: four straight losses? Now for the Buffalo Bills. You played

1915
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:35,720
Speaker 1: on a on a four win team back in the

1916
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 1: two thy ten here in Buffalo, you played on some

1917
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 1: other rough seasons. What's it what's it feel like when

1918
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 1: things start to go south like this? Well, I mean

1919
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 1: it's definitely not a good feeling. Um. But the bottom

1920
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 1: line and at the end of the day. Uh. You

1921
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 1: just gotta keep going to work. You just gotta keep

1922
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 1: coming back, you know, keep plugging away at it. Uh,

1923
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: And you gotta be real, you know, critical of yourself.

1924
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 1: What is it that you can do better to help

1925
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 1: your teammates. And I think as long as those guys

1926
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 1: continue to do that. You see the effort that the

1927
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 1: guys are putting out on the field, it's not from

1928
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 1: a lack of effort. There's just you know, things that

1929
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:10,439
Speaker 1: are not going their way. You know, they first possession

1930
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:12,680
Speaker 1: of the game for the for the Bears, they get

1931
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:14,639
Speaker 1: a strip and a bumble laying around on the ball

1932
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 1: and they just weren't able to get on it. It's

1933
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 1: things like that that you know, eventually, stuff like that

1934
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:21,599
Speaker 1: has to turn. You just keep trying to create those

1935
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:26,919
Speaker 1: turnovers or forcing interceptions, and the defense is playing tremendous.

1936
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 1: You know, as long as those guys keep doing what

1937
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 1: they're doing, they're gonna keep the office you know, motivated

1938
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 1: through out there and try and make plays for him.

1939
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 1: And there's still a lot of season left, you know,

1940
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 1: as long as you focus on that, focus on them,

1941
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 1: taking it one week at a time, being critical of

1942
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 1: yourself and what it is you can do better. I

1943
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:45,600
Speaker 1: think they haven't shot at turning around Fred. Last night

1944
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night Football, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers faced off,

1945
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:52,720
Speaker 1: really for probably the last time they'll ever get to

1946
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 1: do it. Did you How interested were you in seeing

1947
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 1: those two guys face off and what did you think

1948
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:01,639
Speaker 1: of the outcome? Oh? Man, it's it's always fun to watch,

1949
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 1: you know, two guys that I think two of the

1950
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 1: greatest to ever do it. So, uh, it's always fun

1951
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 1: to sit back and watch what kind of show they're

1952
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:12,680
Speaker 1: gonna put on, especially in a you know, national televised game. Uh,

1953
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 1: you know, they're gonna bring their a game, and everybody

1954
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 1: around him is gonna bring their A game. So it's

1955
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 1: always fun when you can sit back and watch those games.

1956
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:21,600
Speaker 1: And I was definitely excited to watch it, you know,

1957
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 1: being able to compete against both of those guys, you know,

1958
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:26,720
Speaker 1: at a point my career was you know, something that

1959
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:30,839
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed. So, um, I think, you know, obviously

1960
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 1: with the outcome of the game, uh Tom, Tom kind

1961
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 1: of cemented that he is, you know, the better of

1962
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 1: the two quarterbacks. But I think you give yourself a

1963
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 1: chance to win with either one of those guys. Hey,

1964
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 1: Fred Dum, I wonder what you think about this. And

1965
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:46,559
Speaker 1: you know you watch that game, you watch the Rams

1966
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 1: and the and the Saints. Maybe a little bit earlier yesterday,

1967
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 1: maybe you didn't watch it, might have been tied up

1968
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:53,639
Speaker 1: doing your show here. But the point is people will

1969
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:55,560
Speaker 1: will tell you, and I think there's some truth to that.

1970
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 1: The NFL is such a pass heavy league right now.

1971
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 1: It's such a league that you know, the best teams

1972
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 1: are the teams that throw the ball. Well, what does

1973
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 1: that put the Bills? And not just this year, but

1974
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 1: even you know, in the next couple of years. They've

1975
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 1: got a rookie quarterback this year they're gonna try to

1976
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 1: develop and get him up to speed with the top

1977
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 1: flight passing game. But do you feel like the Bills

1978
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 1: are you know, a dollar short here day late in

1979
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 1: the dollar short? When it comes to the recent offensive

1980
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 1: trends around the NFL, Well, I mean you kind of

1981
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 1: obviously have to think so, uh, you know what all

1982
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:30,679
Speaker 1: the numbers and the touchdowns and the yards and things

1983
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 1: that are being put up and not to be able

1984
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 1: to do the same thing. Uh, you gotta look at

1985
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:37,800
Speaker 1: yourself and figure out what it is that you're doing

1986
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 1: wrong because it's definitely geared towards offensives to score a

1987
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 1: lot of points. Uh, put up a lot of yards receiving,

1988
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 1: you know, throwing the ball. So if you're not doing so,

1989
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 1: you got to figure out what it is that you're

1990
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 1: you're not doing to take advantage of the way it

1991
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 1: is set up right now. So, uh, we're on pace

1992
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 1: throughout the league right now to break every passing record

1993
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 1: there is and every touchdown record, scoring records, whatever it

1994
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:05,719
Speaker 1: may be, because the rules of geared towards the offense

1995
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 1: and allowing them to put up some of the numbers.

1996
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 1: So when you're looking at your your offense and it's

1997
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 1: so stagnant and you haven't put up some of those numbers,

1998
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 1: you got to figure out what it is that you

1999
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:16,639
Speaker 1: need to do to be able to do so well.

2000
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:18,800
Speaker 1: Two teams that are relying on their offense, the Saints

2001
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 1: and the Rams. The Rams the lasting undefeated team coming

2002
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 1: into this weekend, and the Saints handed them their first loss.

2003
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 1: This was the kind of game I think that the

2004
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 1: NFL is kind of shooting for, right the forty five,

2005
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 1: forty one, thirty five, forty five thirty seven, you know,

2006
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 1: high scoring very close game and the Saints came out

2007
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:41,639
Speaker 1: on top. Yeah. I think a lot of people love,

2008
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 1: you know, obviously, seeing offenses, you know, throw the ball

2009
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 1: seventy two yard touchdown with what three to four minutes

2010
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:49,639
Speaker 1: left in the game to kind of seal the deal,

2011
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 1: I think is what everybody tries to tune in for

2012
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:54,720
Speaker 1: when you see quarterbacks, you know, throwing the ball for

2013
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 1: four hundred yards. Every week there's a quarterback throwing for

2014
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 1: four hundred yards and four touchdowns, um, and offensive explosions.

2015
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 1: I think that's really what you know, fans tune in

2016
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 1: and seeing what get what gets everybody excited when you

2017
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 1: got guys throwing the ball around like that. So, um,

2018
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 1: it's a fun game to watch. You know, as a

2019
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 1: defensive player, you might not like it as much, being

2020
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 1: that you can't hit people the way you used to,

2021
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:21,560
Speaker 1: or you can't even uh, you know, touch them in

2022
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:23,800
Speaker 1: the back into things without you know, having to worry

2023
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 1: about being called for a file. So but as long

2024
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 1: as people are continuing to tune in and there's continue

2025
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:32,360
Speaker 1: to be forty forty five points scored in a game,

2026
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 1: I think that the league is gonna be happy about that.

2027
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:40,160
Speaker 1: Who's your MVP, Mahomes, Breezes, Girly, Brady. I mean, there's

2028
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 1: a list of guys that are in the conversation. Who

2029
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 1: do you think is the MVP at this point of

2030
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 1: the season anyway? Oh man, It's it's kind of hard

2031
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 1: to say, you know, but you know everybody's playing well.

2032
01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 1: You just name three guys that would automatically jump off

2033
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:56,799
Speaker 1: the page, and me right now would be Brees, Mahomes,

2034
01:39:56,840 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 1: and Girly. Um. But me, being as biased as I am,

2035
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Gurley. I think he just continues

2036
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 1: to produce every time he steps out on the field,

2037
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 1: knowing that guys are gonna key on him, knowing that

2038
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:12,479
Speaker 1: he is the focal point of that offense. As long

2039
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 1: as he's going there, going and you know, he's still

2040
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:17,840
Speaker 1: going out there and turning out the numbers, being a

2041
01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 1: key cogging that offense, and as long as he's still

2042
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 1: doing that, and those guys are eight and one now

2043
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 1: after their loss, I think it's hard for you not

2044
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 1: to say that he is the MVP of the league

2045
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 1: right now. If Fred, did you see Ben Roethlisberger's punt.

2046
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:31,800
Speaker 1: He's done it before seven times, I think in his

2047
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 1: NFL career, but he did it again this weekend, first

2048
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:36,680
Speaker 1: time in five years or so. What do you think

2049
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 1: of that strategy, having a non punter, even though he's

2050
01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 1: capable of doing it, surprise people with a quick kick

2051
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 1: a punt like that. What do you think? Yeah, you know,

2052
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 1: I think it could be a useful weapon for you.

2053
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:48,839
Speaker 1: But when you got guys that are on the opposite

2054
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:50,840
Speaker 1: side of the team or the opposite side of the

2055
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 1: field of you that are you know, savvy vets themselves,

2056
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 1: like Eric Whittell. You know, he figured out something was

2057
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:58,560
Speaker 1: about to happen and you know he went back. He

2058
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 1: got a good decent return out of it. So I

2059
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 1: think it kind of goes both ways. When when you

2060
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 1: know you can catch a team off guard, I think

2061
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 1: it's a great weapon to have. And um, I think

2062
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 1: you know, it's something that he's he's worked on, you know,

2063
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:13,760
Speaker 1: he wanted to be good at it, and uh, it's

2064
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:15,519
Speaker 1: worked for them throughout the years, and I think as

2065
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 1: long as he's playing, it's something you definitely have to

2066
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:19,320
Speaker 1: be prepared for. And on the topic of the Steelers,

2067
01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm wondering about your take on James Connor and

2068
01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:24,719
Speaker 1: the fact that as one Steelers veteran told the media

2069
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 1: last week, we didn't even think about Levyon Bell anymore.

2070
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:30,320
Speaker 1: It sounds like they mean it too down there. Huh yeah, yeah.

2071
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's real easy to forget about a guy

2072
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 1: like Leban when you got James playing the way he is.

2073
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:38,839
Speaker 1: You know, he's doing a lot of you know, dynamic

2074
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:41,600
Speaker 1: things for that teatman. Uh, not only just catching or

2075
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:43,439
Speaker 1: running the ball out of the backfield. He's catching the

2076
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 1: ball well out of the backfield. He's doing some great

2077
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:48,760
Speaker 1: things and pass blocking and um. And they're winning football games.

2078
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 1: So when you're winning and you know, everybody's you know,

2079
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:56,599
Speaker 1: feeling good about themselves about wins, Uh, it's real easy

2080
01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:59,680
Speaker 1: to forget about somebody. If they start struggling, though, you know,

2081
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 1: I think it becomes a different story. But as long

2082
01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 1: as he's going out and he's credit to him, he's

2083
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 1: playing tremendous taking advantage of that opportunity to be that

2084
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:11,799
Speaker 1: lead bell call for them. As long as he continues

2085
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:13,559
Speaker 1: to do that and they continue to win football games,

2086
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:15,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna make it real easy for them to forget

2087
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 1: about what Levion brings to that team. Is it better

2088
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:22,280
Speaker 1: for the Steelers if Levion Bell does not show up, well,

2089
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 1: I you know what, I don't know what that locker

2090
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:28,280
Speaker 1: room's like, but I think with a guy like Levion,

2091
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 1: I think everybody in that locker room cares for him.

2092
01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:33,320
Speaker 1: They just they just wanted him there. I think once

2093
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 1: he comes back, if he does come back, I think

2094
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:38,760
Speaker 1: they welcome him. I think. But obviously he's gonna have

2095
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Speaker 1: to work to jump back in that starting role with

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01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 1: the way that h Connor's playing right now. And I think,

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01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:47,759
Speaker 1: you know, even he realizes that, knowing that they're winning

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01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 1: football games and they're doing a tremendous are without him

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Speaker 1: being there. Before I let you go too, nine football

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Speaker 1: issues I want to deal with Fred. First of all,

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Speaker 1: A week ago, when we had you on the show,

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Speaker 1: you told us about your a little bit about your

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01:42:57,760 --> 01:42:59,759
Speaker 1: Halloween plans. How did that turn out? What'd you dressed

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01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 1: up at? That's what the family do for Halloween? Oh man,

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01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:04,600
Speaker 1: that was a lot of fun for Halloween. We we

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01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 1: had the whole neighborhood, about five or six families got

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01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 1: together and we all were Mario Kart characters, so we

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01:43:10,479 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 1: had I was out there, of course, I was Donkey

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01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 1: Kong got there throwing bananas that everybody and stuff. So

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Speaker 1: my brother was a bowser, so we had a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun with it. We got to enjoy it. We

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Speaker 1: were out on some motorized scooters riding around through the

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Speaker 1: neighborhood getting candy. So anytime you get to do stuff

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01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 1: like that, it's always a joy. And the last thing

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Speaker 1: is Steve is a little bit worried. He wanted me

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01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:32,880
Speaker 1: to ask you. He wanted me to warn you. He

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Speaker 1: thinks there's a fire in the background there in the

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Speaker 1: room that you're sitting there. We can see it on

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Speaker 1: the video. Schame what it is? There? A fire? You

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01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 1: know there's a fire burning behind you there? Yeah, I do.

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01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 1: That is just uh, that was a great idea my

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Speaker 1: wife had. It's a ventless fireplace that we had and

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01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 1: you know it's we put it on just to kind of,

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01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:51,720
Speaker 1: you know, help with the heat bill. We don't have

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01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:53,280
Speaker 1: to worry about paying the heat bill when we got

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01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 1: a fireplace in ours. I can feel the heat even here,

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01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:58,800
Speaker 1: can't you see it's hot here in Buffalo? Thanks? Fred,

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01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 1: good chocolate. We're talking. Thanks all right, Thanks fellas. I

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01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 1: appreciate you having me. Fred Jackson, former Bills running back,

2130
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 1: joined US every Monday. He is co host of Bills

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01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 1: Tonight on the MSG eleven thirty on Sunday nights, co

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01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 1: host set with the Mike Catalana. They've got highlights of

2133
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:15,599
Speaker 1: the game, They've got the postgame locker room reaction. Fred

2134
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 1: and Mike do a great job of that show, and

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01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 1: we thank you for joining this year today. I've never

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Speaker 1: seen a ventless fireplace like that. Do you have one

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01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:24,640
Speaker 1: of those? I think has a vent though, I mean

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01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 1: it's like one of those gas fireplaces that's enclosi, you know,

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01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:30,720
Speaker 1: but you don't you know, I don't know if there's

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01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:34,719
Speaker 1: a vent. There is a vent outside but not inside.

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Speaker 1: You weren't worried about that flame in the background, No,

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Speaker 1: I was not. I was not. I'm making me the

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01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 1: guy I did the punchline. No, well, I'm used to.

2144
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 1: He's probably thinking, Hey, I let these guys into my

2145
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: house and to make fun of what we got here,

2146
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:51,720
Speaker 1: and so I wanted to throw the shade on you here,

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01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 1: to throw me under the blacks exactly. Why not? I

2148
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:57,840
Speaker 1: was trying to recover from yesterday's forty one to nine

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01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:00,559
Speaker 1: loss to the Chicago Bears. What do you think? Give

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Speaker 1: us a call? Eight oh three five fifty toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Russ

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01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 1: on the line in New Jersey. Hello, Rusco ahead, you're

2153
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:15,679
Speaker 1: on the air. Ross Gone. Steve tweet sheet is active today.

2154
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 1: Many of the tweets we cannot or will not read.

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01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 1: But here's one from Nathan Earl. The call to fire one,

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01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 1: the call to fire everyone by this fan base on

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01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:29,120
Speaker 1: social media is destructive, he says. Nathan says that type

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01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:31,880
Speaker 1: of thinking instant gratification does not happen in the NFL

2159
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 1: and has plagued this franchise for a long time. Hope

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01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 1: ownership can stick with players and coaches despite recent results. Yeah,

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01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think that has been so.

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01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 1: If someone never to ask you, if somebody ever asked me,

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01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:45,280
Speaker 1: how could the Bills go seventeen years and I'm making

2164
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 1: the playoffs? My answer, simple, Steve, is because they kept

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01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 1: changing coaches every couple of years. We are nowhere near

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01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:53,599
Speaker 1: that sort of consideration here now, and there's no indication

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01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 1: that they're going in that direction right now. North should

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Speaker 1: there be. You make fun of the process all you want,

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01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 1: make fun of anything you want. With his coach, he said,

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Speaker 1: But they do want to They do want to build

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01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:06,000
Speaker 1: it and build it the right way. And we're in

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01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 1: the initial difficult stages right now of this build. And

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01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 1: it's it's tough. It's tough to lose forty one tonight.

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Speaker 1: It's tough to lose by thirty points, twenty five points

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks in a row. That's where we're at,

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01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:21,519
Speaker 1: unfortunately right now. Yeah, And it's the problem is it now?

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Speaker 1: Even so nobody got injured in this last game, or

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Speaker 1: no quarterback got injured. Peterman finished the game, started it

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Speaker 1: and it went well, not well, but it went as expected.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy went in there, and you know

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01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna fix everything. But what I'm trying to

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01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 1: say is now we still got a quarterback question. Who's

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01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:41,639
Speaker 1: gonna be healthy? If Derek Anderson's healthy, is he gonna

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Speaker 1: get back in there? Is Josh Allen gonna be healthy enough?

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Speaker 1: And I think we all agree and maybe not, But

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Speaker 1: if Josh Allen's healthy, he's the guy they plug in.

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01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:53,280
Speaker 1: They got to find out about him. What happens if

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Speaker 1: Derek Anderson gets healthy, Josh Allen is healthy, do they

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01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 1: still keep do they say, you know what, Nate thanks

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01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 1: for stopping by. We're done. Maybe let me say this,

2191
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:08,560
Speaker 1: if let's put Josh Allen aside for a minute and

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Speaker 1: talk about this week. If Derek Anderson, out of concussion protocol,

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01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 1: is healthy enough to play, and if Nathan Peterman is

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Speaker 1: healthy enough to play, he should be I'm going with

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Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman, Steve. I mean, he is of the two

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Speaker 1: of them, has the most potential for development. Derek Anderson

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01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 1: was his career was over right up until a month

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Speaker 1: or so ago, three weeks ago. So I don't think

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's even I would hope that they

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01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 1: would stay with Peterman. See where they're at with him,

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Speaker 1: See if he can get better. He did not play

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Speaker 1: well yesterday, but he was not awful yesterday either. Let's

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Speaker 1: see where they go with him. So if the choice

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01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:40,840
Speaker 1: you're asking, you didn't ask me, But if you ask me,

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Speaker 1: I'm asking if my choice is Derek Anderson or Peterman

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Speaker 1: this coming Sunday, I'm going with Nathan Peterman. I don't

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01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 1: even even think you know, yeah, I mean, think about

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01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:53,599
Speaker 1: how it looked when Derek Anderson was in the game. Now,

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Speaker 1: they didn't play any better than they did yesterday. They

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Speaker 1: turned the football over in all of those games, and

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01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 1: they were uh, you know, there were big losses. So

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01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, I mean, you can flip a coin.

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01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:07,920
Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, Yeah, I'd like to see Peterman,

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01:48:08,280 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 1: you know, play better. He played certainly this was his

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01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 1: best game yet. So I mean, if you're gonna say that,

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01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:17,280
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, yeah, he's getting better. Okay, but that's wow,

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01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:23,519
Speaker 1: you know. But still, Derek Anderson isn't going to give

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Speaker 1: anything that Nathan Peterman gives you. I mean, he has

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01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:30,839
Speaker 1: no Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's a chance that Peterman

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01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 1: could become a decent backup, a chance he hasn't played

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01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:35,639
Speaker 1: well yet, but a chance that he could well. Yeah,

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01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:37,240
Speaker 1: I mean there's so many There's so much more that

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01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman has to learn, and you think that when

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Speaker 1: he does learn that and begins to get on top

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01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:44,360
Speaker 1: of the knowledge and the and the keys and reads

2226
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:46,600
Speaker 1: and defense and reading defense in the league, that he

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01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 1: would play better than he has. So there is that

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01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 1: Derrick Anderson is what he is. He's a he's a

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01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 1: long time veteran quarterback who's exactly what you think he's

2230
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 1: gonna be, and he's not gonna get better. He could

2231
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:00,760
Speaker 1: play better in this offense than he has with new

2232
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:03,640
Speaker 1: knowledge about the offense. But as a quarterback, you know

2233
01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:06,880
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get Nathan Peterman. There's still at side

2234
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 1: of you that says, you know, there's something in there

2235
01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 1: that makes him a quarterback that you know that is

2236
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:15,320
Speaker 1: worth maybe take rolling the dice and letting Josh Allen

2237
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:17,840
Speaker 1: have another week on the bench to get healthy. Let

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01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 1: Peterman get you through one more game before Josh Allen

2239
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 1: gets plugged in after the bye. All of that, But

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Speaker 1: I still think that's you know, that's the thing you're at.

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01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 1: You're shaking your head, shrugging your shoulders, gonna listen. Does

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01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 1: it really matter which one of those guys you play?

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01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 1: And I say, which one do you want to see

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01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 1: a lot of people say I do not want to

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01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 1: see Nathan Peterman again, and the other and just because

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01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:36,599
Speaker 1: of the lesser of two evils, say give me Derek Anderson,

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01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 1: just because you know, I haven't seen him throw, you know,

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01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 1: like I've seen Peterman throw, you know what I mean.

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01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 1: It's almost like the lesser of two evils. It's not

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Speaker 1: a good choice. It's not where the team wanted to

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01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:49,519
Speaker 1: be um. You know, we all kind of want to

2252
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 1: see Josh Allen get healthy and get back in that.

2253
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:53,920
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's kind of where the elephant the room.

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01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:55,720
Speaker 1: That's what we're waiting on at that point, then the

2255
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Speaker 1: season again can move forward, almost like we're being held

2256
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:00,920
Speaker 1: hostage by Josh Allen's injury here, right, I mean a

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01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:03,840
Speaker 1: little bit offenses. Well, plus the team can't put together

2258
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:07,280
Speaker 1: a winning effort without with him or without him right now.

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01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 1: So let's get to that and make that the priority

2260
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 1: and see what we can do because um, you know,

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01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 1: it's just you know that it's hard to even fathom, um,

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01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:21,040
Speaker 1: anything else being that important. Now a call here from

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01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 1: Charlie on his cell phone. Go ahead, Charlie, you're on

2264
01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 1: the air. Yeah, guys, how are you doing today? Good?

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01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:30,680
Speaker 1: All right? You know, I feel bad for Peterman. To me,

2266
01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:33,960
Speaker 1: it's my opinion, I don't see, you know what more

2267
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:37,639
Speaker 1: of a guy could have died yesterday. His receivers definitely

2268
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:40,840
Speaker 1: let him down to fumble. Uh you know, the the

2269
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:43,600
Speaker 1: interceptions are you know, the returns you know, uh, you

2270
01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 1: know from fumble for an interception, the points that were

2271
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 1: scored off that I mean, you know, and and forgive

2272
01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:51,920
Speaker 1: me if you guys talked about it earlier, you know,

2273
01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:54,400
Speaker 1: the scramble player there. I think it was fourth down

2274
01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 1: and I can't remember what quarter. It was third, early fourth.

2275
01:50:57,560 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 1: He threw the bar rolling call from Bendmick. He catch

2276
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 1: that ball. He threw that right there, and it was

2277
01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:05,000
Speaker 1: right on the money. He should have brought that down.

2278
01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 1: And I just feel bad for Peterman. He's got just

2279
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:09,800
Speaker 1: got a bad stigma on him, you know. And and

2280
01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 1: you know, had had those interceptions not happened, you know,

2281
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:16,040
Speaker 1: dropped all the fumbles. You know that, you know the

2282
01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:19,639
Speaker 1: tip ball he was driving, I mean, he was actually driving,

2283
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:21,960
Speaker 1: you know, the offense a little bit. I think he

2284
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:25,160
Speaker 1: gives your butter shop in Anderson to drive our offense.

2285
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 1: And that that's just my opinion. I hear you. I

2286
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 1: heard you're saying. You know, there's an interesting postgame quote

2287
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:34,400
Speaker 1: from Sean McDermot at the podium yesterday that I hope

2288
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:37,360
Speaker 1: gets fottled up on um. He was asked about Peterman,

2289
01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:39,720
Speaker 1: and you know, obviously he's going to defend Peterman at

2290
01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:41,840
Speaker 1: the postgame podium as much as he can. But he

2291
01:51:42,160 --> 01:51:44,400
Speaker 1: made a point I mentioned, get your take on this

2292
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:47,120
Speaker 1: team he was asked about the assessment of the way

2293
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:50,639
Speaker 1: Peterman performed. Mcdermot's quote, I thought there was some look

2294
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:52,760
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the result wasn't what

2295
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 1: we wanted it to be, but I thought there were

2296
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 1: some throws that were made that were on target, and

2297
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:00,320
Speaker 1: we could have made more plays on the ball which

2298
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 1: led to a couple of those turnovers. I think he's

2299
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:05,080
Speaker 1: spot on, McDermott. We could have made more plays on

2300
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:07,719
Speaker 1: the ball. You need and you you play the position.

2301
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:10,200
Speaker 1: Receivers have to make a play in the ball, right.

2302
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:11,439
Speaker 1: You don't sit there and wait for the ball to

2303
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 1: come to you. You have to make a play on

2304
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 1: the ball. You have to go get it. There's not

2305
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 1: a whole lot of that. It hasn't been a whole

2306
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:17,800
Speaker 1: lot of that going on in the receiving court. Yeah,

2307
01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 1: you're shaking your head because I agree. I agree, you're right.

2308
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:22,840
Speaker 1: You gotta go get it, right, somebody's gotta make a

2309
01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:25,760
Speaker 1: play for the guy. Yeah, the two to interceptions, he

2310
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:28,320
Speaker 1: bangs it off. I mean this it's you know, he

2311
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:31,720
Speaker 1: bangs it off guy's hands and he bounces up in

2312
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:34,559
Speaker 1: the air and gets picked off, and you know, I mean,

2313
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:38,840
Speaker 1: what are you doing you know, make catch the ball,

2314
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:41,679
Speaker 1: get both hands on it, make a play, be strong

2315
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 1: on the football, hang onto the ball, tuck the ball away.

2316
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you got a guy back there

2317
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 1: in Nathan Peterman who's been through, you know, the worst

2318
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:56,120
Speaker 1: possible scenario in the start to his career. And he

2319
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:59,240
Speaker 1: comes in and he works his tail off to earn

2320
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 1: a spot because listen, how many people were thinking Nate

2321
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:06,080
Speaker 1: Peterman would be even in football last year at this time.

2322
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 1: They thought he they had him like selling insurance, right,

2323
01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:13,439
Speaker 1: So he goes through everything you can imagine that he

2324
01:53:13,479 --> 01:53:15,000
Speaker 1: had to go through to get back on the field

2325
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 1: and actually even stay on the team. Does it and

2326
01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:20,160
Speaker 1: he gets back in and you know he's got guys

2327
01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:22,760
Speaker 1: batting the ball up like it's volleyball for anybody to

2328
01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 1: grab it. And he needs help. Look listen, his arm strength,

2329
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:30,760
Speaker 1: his arm talent is limited now and to help. And

2330
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 1: unfortunately that's that's the case for the Bill. I mean,

2331
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:35,840
Speaker 1: he's he needs how he's a young quarterback, Josh Allen

2332
01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 1: needs help when he's in there. Nate Peterman's gonna need

2333
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 1: it when he's in there. That's the way it works.

2334
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:43,479
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson's gonna need help when he's in there, and

2335
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:46,280
Speaker 1: nobody's given it to him. They're getting zero help from

2336
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:49,679
Speaker 1: anybody else on this offense. That doesn't excuse all their mistakes,

2337
01:53:49,800 --> 01:53:53,639
Speaker 1: doesn't excuse Nate Peterman for his for his total effort,

2338
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:56,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't excuse anybody else. Uh, they all got to

2339
01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:59,120
Speaker 1: do it together. And on the offensive side of the football,

2340
01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:01,960
Speaker 1: nobody's getting it done. I mean that it is epic.

2341
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:09,280
Speaker 1: It is epically bad. It is it's it's laughable because

2342
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:11,720
Speaker 1: you know, they're scoring ten points a game when the

2343
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:15,320
Speaker 1: league average is like what it's like almost thirty. I mean,

2344
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:20,280
Speaker 1: it's crazy talk. And that's you know, say you can say, hey,

2345
01:54:20,360 --> 01:54:22,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback is the most important position on that Listen,

2346
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 1: he's getting zero help. Neither and Derek Anderson was getting

2347
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:31,800
Speaker 1: zero help. Josh Allen was getting zero help. I mean,

2348
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 1: they've got to have everybody on that side of the

2349
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 1: football play better or they're gonna get They're gonna get

2350
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 1: slaughtered by thirty points every week. And before you jump

2351
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 1: on Twitter and accuse me and Steve maybe of a

2352
01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:45,800
Speaker 1: defending Peterman, look, he did not play well yesterday. We've

2353
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:47,880
Speaker 1: said that over and over and over again. He's got

2354
01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:51,839
Speaker 1: to play better. But he needs help, right because he's limited,

2355
01:54:51,880 --> 01:54:54,800
Speaker 1: and he's a young quarterback who's got who's gotten in

2356
01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 1: there because of injuries, and he's you know, he's not

2357
01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:00,960
Speaker 1: that good yet. Even if he had Josh Allen's arm

2358
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:04,000
Speaker 1: and his athletic ability. You know what, do you think

2359
01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:06,360
Speaker 1: they they're gonna score thirty five points? That's gonna be

2360
01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:09,160
Speaker 1: the difference. I don't think so. The guy needs to

2361
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:11,960
Speaker 1: learn a call from Dougan Blazell. Go ahead, don't you're

2362
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:16,480
Speaker 1: on the ear? Yes, how are you guys doing great?

2363
01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:22,240
Speaker 1: We are doing great, Doug, Thanks, go ahead. Here's my question.

2364
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:25,400
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm seventy six years old. I've been

2365
01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:31,440
Speaker 1: through about eighty Buffalo Bills rebuilds. Here you go, okay,

2366
01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:37,360
Speaker 1: a couple of oh yeah, eighty rebuilds fifty In view

2367
01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:40,000
Speaker 1: of the way things are going, why did they get

2368
01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:43,480
Speaker 1: rid of Tyrode? Wouldn't Tyrode have been a great second

2369
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:46,480
Speaker 1: string quarterback because now we went out and got us

2370
01:55:46,600 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 1: quarterback to be the backup to teach the young guys.

2371
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, here's the thing, and

2372
01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 1: I get it. You're right, it's money. It's it was

2373
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 1: a money thing. It was like twenty million dollars I

2374
01:55:56,480 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 1: think eighteen millions, Like there's a big nut to pay him.

2375
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:03,080
Speaker 1: And also they want to get better. They didn't want

2376
01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:05,600
Speaker 1: to repeat. They got something value. They got a third

2377
01:56:05,720 --> 01:56:09,080
Speaker 1: round pick for him, that helped them grab Hermaine Edmonds.

2378
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:11,879
Speaker 1: So you know, there's a little bit of a domino effect.

2379
01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:15,480
Speaker 1: And there's some things that Tyrod did well that would

2380
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:18,160
Speaker 1: really serve the team well this year, but there are

2381
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:21,600
Speaker 1: also some deficiency that Tyrod had and Tyrod to me

2382
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 1: and I'm seeing follow my line, Tyrod was what he was.

2383
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:30,720
Speaker 1: He was not getting better. He was not getting better

2384
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:35,920
Speaker 1: as a quarterback, and that wasn't good enough for this

2385
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:38,280
Speaker 1: team to step forward. Now, they were willing to take

2386
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:40,080
Speaker 1: a there's no doubt they were willing to take a

2387
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 1: step back from Tyrod at that at that place, they

2388
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:45,560
Speaker 1: knew that they were going to turn the football over

2389
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 1: more this year because Tyrod really refused to do that,

2390
01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:52,400
Speaker 1: and he was frustrating to watch sometimes, just like this

2391
01:56:52,640 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 1: offense is frustrating to watch at times, but for different reasons.

2392
01:56:56,400 --> 01:57:00,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, Tyrod probably would have given done some things

2393
01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:03,000
Speaker 1: better on the field this year than the guys whoever

2394
01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:06,400
Speaker 1: has been out there has have done. But I think

2395
01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:09,280
Speaker 1: you're it's hard sell for me. I mean, a lot

2396
01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:11,760
Speaker 1: of people may believe it that this team should have

2397
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 1: kept Tyrod and played him before they played Josh Allen.

2398
01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:17,880
Speaker 1: I can't get there. Certainly, he'd be better in spots

2399
01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 1: now than they were. I mean, listen, they got two

2400
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:22,120
Speaker 1: guys hurt. You know, they got guys all knicked up

2401
01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:25,520
Speaker 1: all over the place. So yeah, if a healthy Tyrod

2402
01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:27,680
Speaker 1: Taylor would have been better in a number of occasions.

2403
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:31,360
Speaker 1: But I wasn't ready to trash everything that they did

2404
01:57:31,400 --> 01:57:35,640
Speaker 1: in the offseason just to keep him and plus pay

2405
01:57:35,720 --> 01:57:39,360
Speaker 1: him twenty million dollars. So I was totally on board

2406
01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:43,240
Speaker 1: with what happened with Tyrod. I you know, obviously, the

2407
01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:48,920
Speaker 1: result thus far has been anything but satisfactory. I mean,

2408
01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 1: you gotta it's been. It's been a total meltdown at times,

2409
01:57:52,240 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 1: and that's that's hard to watch, particularly when you had

2410
01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 1: a guy that was, you know, Tyrod okay, he was okay.

2411
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:04,640
Speaker 1: Here's a call from Nancy in South Buffalo. Hello, Nancy, Hi, Hi, Hi,

2412
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:08,200
Speaker 1: go ahead. I just wanted to share that I thought

2413
01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:12,400
Speaker 1: Nate Peterman did an old kage job. And given the

2414
01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:17,760
Speaker 1: fact that the team is lacking in consistency and familiarity

2415
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:21,360
Speaker 1: with one another and each other's strengths, and they're trying

2416
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:25,000
Speaker 1: all different things from different angles, they got the team

2417
01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:28,400
Speaker 1: functioning like a jack of all trades master of none.

2418
01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:34,920
Speaker 1: Right now, you have to pick a spot, pick an area,

2419
01:58:36,040 --> 01:58:38,840
Speaker 1: put in a lot of effort into uniting the team.

2420
01:58:39,120 --> 01:58:42,000
Speaker 1: The offense is what I'm talking about. Yeah, you're making

2421
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:45,480
Speaker 1: a good point, Nancy. In fact, my Sunday partner Markelso

2422
01:58:45,680 --> 01:58:47,320
Speaker 1: said it now for about a month he said, I

2423
01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:50,280
Speaker 1: don't know what their offensive identity is, and he's right,

2424
01:58:50,520 --> 01:58:52,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. They don't do anything well on offense,

2425
01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:55,360
Speaker 1: so they have no identity. You're right, Jack of all trades,

2426
01:58:55,400 --> 01:58:57,920
Speaker 1: master of none. They've tried everything, right, They've tried you know,

2427
01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:02,080
Speaker 1: the direct snaps, the um you know, trying to yesterday.

2428
01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:05,320
Speaker 1: They have a direct snap to Terrell Prior. I mean,

2429
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:08,120
Speaker 1: they've lined up with the heavy formations, they've lined up

2430
01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:11,480
Speaker 1: spread formation, and nothing is worth Jack of all trades,

2431
01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:14,600
Speaker 1: master of none, You're absolutely right. They have no offensive identity. Yeah,

2432
01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:17,280
Speaker 1: they have no offensive identity because they haven't been successful

2433
01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:19,560
Speaker 1: enough doing anything. Because they don't have a good player.

2434
01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:24,640
Speaker 1: They don't. Yeah, they're yeah, they're they're struggling on all

2435
01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:29,360
Speaker 1: fronts offensively and uh, and we'll see how it transpires

2436
01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:31,280
Speaker 1: the rest of the way. But there's no question that

2437
01:59:32,160 --> 01:59:35,080
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's not even in the ballpark of where

2438
01:59:35,080 --> 01:59:36,680
Speaker 1: they wanted it to be. One more call before we

2439
01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:39,000
Speaker 1: go to break, Mike and Cheek Dwaga. Hello, Mike, go ahead,

2440
01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:42,040
Speaker 1: you're on the air. They guys, how you doing. First,

2441
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:45,160
Speaker 1: I just want to say, Steve, I'm voting for you

2442
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:49,120
Speaker 1: to go into the Hall of Fame. Vote for Steve.

2443
01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:51,640
Speaker 1: Look at that you're getting an election days tomorrow. You

2444
01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:53,640
Speaker 1: should wreck up some big votes tomorrow, I would think.

2445
01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:57,320
Speaker 1: I think you should have been in years ago. Yeah, okay,

2446
01:59:57,520 --> 02:00:02,040
Speaker 1: thanks Mike. Anyways, there's and I'm calling is like you guys,

2447
02:00:02,080 --> 02:00:05,200
Speaker 1: they've been a Bills fan forever, you know, and they've

2448
02:00:05,240 --> 02:00:08,760
Speaker 1: had good years, they've had bad years. And I now

2449
02:00:08,800 --> 02:00:10,320
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is

2450
02:00:10,360 --> 02:00:13,720
Speaker 1: the first year that I can remember where they actually tried,

2451
02:00:14,240 --> 02:00:18,280
Speaker 1: they're actually trying to build a team, and they lost

2452
02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:21,840
Speaker 1: a good portion of their offensive line. I think that

2453
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:25,880
Speaker 1: they got a couple of guys that were disappointments, especially

2454
02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:30,960
Speaker 1: in the receiving end. You know, I think Josh Allen's

2455
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:32,920
Speaker 1: the guy for the future, I really do. I think

2456
02:00:32,960 --> 02:00:34,720
Speaker 1: he's going to be something that everybody's going to be

2457
02:00:34,760 --> 02:00:39,720
Speaker 1: shocked with. But as far as Nate goes, Peterman and

2458
02:00:39,880 --> 02:00:42,640
Speaker 1: you know, support guys getting put into a bad spot,

2459
02:00:42,720 --> 02:00:46,720
Speaker 1: he's got you know, he's trying his best and they got,

2460
02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:49,200
Speaker 1: you know, receivers that dropped the ball. They I don't

2461
02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:51,320
Speaker 1: think they're running the right route that you know makes

2462
02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:53,800
Speaker 1: him look bad as passes behind him, and I'm sure

2463
02:00:53,920 --> 02:00:56,080
Speaker 1: some of it's on his shoulders that he makes a

2464
02:00:56,160 --> 02:01:00,000
Speaker 1: bad pass. But you know, I just think that everybody

2465
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:03,480
Speaker 1: should just relaxed. Let these guys build a team. The

2466
02:01:03,640 --> 02:01:05,440
Speaker 1: general manager and the coach know what they have in

2467
02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:10,560
Speaker 1: front of them. What do you guys think? I kind

2468
02:01:10,600 --> 02:01:13,080
Speaker 1: of agree with you, Mike, I don't. I am nowhere

2469
02:01:13,200 --> 02:01:17,880
Speaker 1: near ready to bail on this all ever present process

2470
02:01:17,960 --> 02:01:19,640
Speaker 1: that we keep hearing about. Now, you know, at this

2471
02:01:19,760 --> 02:01:21,200
Speaker 1: point and when you get to these games, you know,

2472
02:01:21,240 --> 02:01:23,440
Speaker 1: everybody likes to use that word and all the stuff

2473
02:01:23,480 --> 02:01:26,000
Speaker 1: that Sean McDermot has been preaching. You kind of use

2474
02:01:26,040 --> 02:01:28,480
Speaker 1: it as a punchline, because nothing's going well on the

2475
02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:31,960
Speaker 1: offensive side, but they've got the defensive side buttoned up

2476
02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:34,800
Speaker 1: extremely well. They're playing really good over on that side

2477
02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:39,080
Speaker 1: of the football. They did they did commit a lot

2478
02:01:39,160 --> 02:01:41,680
Speaker 1: of assets and a lot of draft picks and trade capital,

2479
02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:43,800
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to that side of the football,

2480
02:01:44,240 --> 02:01:46,640
Speaker 1: and I think now you owe it to them with

2481
02:01:46,840 --> 02:01:49,160
Speaker 1: the way they've got their finances lined up and the

2482
02:01:49,280 --> 02:01:51,840
Speaker 1: salary cap lined up to give them a chance to

2483
02:01:52,040 --> 02:01:55,720
Speaker 1: get the offensive sidelined up straightened out. They got one

2484
02:01:55,800 --> 02:01:58,040
Speaker 1: side straightened out and it should be straightened out for

2485
02:01:58,080 --> 02:02:01,000
Speaker 1: the foreseeable future. They've they've got some guys under contract,

2486
02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:03,320
Speaker 1: they've got some young players they're finding out about. They've

2487
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:05,920
Speaker 1: got some young players that are really contributing, and now

2488
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:07,360
Speaker 1: they need to do that on the other side of

2489
02:02:07,400 --> 02:02:09,200
Speaker 1: the football. And certainly you would have liked to have

2490
02:02:09,280 --> 02:02:12,400
Speaker 1: seen him do it better this last offseason, but they

2491
02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:13,960
Speaker 1: decided they were going to try and go with what

2492
02:02:14,080 --> 02:02:16,280
Speaker 1: they had and it turned out to be probably the wrong,

2493
02:02:16,840 --> 02:02:19,040
Speaker 1: without a doubt, the wrong decision. But I think he

2494
02:02:19,040 --> 02:02:20,520
Speaker 1: got to give him a chance to do the same

2495
02:02:20,600 --> 02:02:22,520
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the football. Given the fact

2496
02:02:22,520 --> 02:02:24,720
Speaker 1: that they're gonna have a lot to work with this offseason.

2497
02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:28,040
Speaker 1: I think, I think you owe it to him to

2498
02:02:28,120 --> 02:02:30,520
Speaker 1: do that, and I'm ready to let him try. We

2499
02:02:30,640 --> 02:02:32,600
Speaker 1: are in the and we've said this before, even on

2500
02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:35,480
Speaker 1: this show. I believe Steve, we are in the deepest,

2501
02:02:35,640 --> 02:02:38,920
Speaker 1: darkest stages of the Rebuilder right now. And it's hard.

2502
02:02:38,960 --> 02:02:41,320
Speaker 1: There's no question it's hard. And I salute those fans

2503
02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:44,400
Speaker 1: who showed up, those sixty eight thousand folks. We've said

2504
02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:46,120
Speaker 1: it again, We've said it. The fans have been better

2505
02:02:46,200 --> 02:02:49,960
Speaker 1: than the team. They were really good. But it's tough.

2506
02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:53,400
Speaker 1: But this is Yeah, it's a process. I know people

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Speaker 1: hate to hear that, but this process is in the

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Speaker 1: it's the natter. It's the low point of the process

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Speaker 1: right now. There are better times ahead. Maybe not this week,

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Speaker 1: but there are better times ahead. I believe, say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we'll see they could be the Jets a break. Here,

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Speaker 1: We're back with more. One does live from one Bill's

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Speaker 1: Driving Buffalo Bill's Radio, Peterman under center and they motioned

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Speaker 1: Saint Jones. Peterman keeps in himself driving towards the end.

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Speaker 1: Zony is in touchdown Buffalo Haythan Peterman from one yard

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Speaker 1: out Boy, it feels good to say that. And that

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Speaker 1: Was that too snarky? I meant that it felt good

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Speaker 1: to say, touchdown, Buffalo. It's been almost a month. It

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Speaker 1: was yester, Yeah, yeah, Towns. It wasn't being I wasn't

2522
02:03:49,840 --> 02:03:52,800
Speaker 1: meaning snarky, not me. No, I thought, hey, that's cool,

2523
02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:54,800
Speaker 1: they got a touchdown. I'm glad that. What can I say?

2524
02:03:54,840 --> 02:03:58,720
Speaker 1: It needed to be said eleven plus quarters without a touchdown,

2525
02:03:58,720 --> 02:04:00,760
Speaker 1: they finally scored. It was good to say, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show, John Murphy's team Tasker, One Bill's Live from

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02:04:03,600 --> 02:04:06,480
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive here until three o'clock today, and talking

2528
02:04:06,480 --> 02:04:08,920
Speaker 1: about yesterday's game, the forty one to nine loss to

2529
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:11,640
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. It was rough. The show has been

2530
02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:14,120
Speaker 1: a little rough too, No, not really. Show has been fine.

2531
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Speaker 1: Thank you for producer, fine, thanks for all the caller's

2532
02:04:16,200 --> 02:04:18,200
Speaker 1: calling in. I mean, you know, we get I think

2533
02:04:18,200 --> 02:04:22,400
Speaker 1: everybody at this point because when the season was in doubt,

2534
02:04:22,520 --> 02:04:24,360
Speaker 1: it's not in doubt now, but when the season was

2535
02:04:24,400 --> 02:04:26,560
Speaker 1: in doubt, it was you're kind of mad that it goes,

2536
02:04:26,720 --> 02:04:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, it goes wrong, and now you can tell

2537
02:04:29,200 --> 02:04:32,960
Speaker 1: a lot of our callers are like, yeah, all right,

2538
02:04:33,200 --> 02:04:35,640
Speaker 1: it's rough. I'm like, well, here's how we got here.

2539
02:04:35,720 --> 02:04:39,320
Speaker 1: There's a little bit of a sign of resignation, but

2540
02:04:40,120 --> 02:04:42,280
Speaker 1: particularly given the fact that the way the team is

2541
02:04:42,360 --> 02:04:45,520
Speaker 1: losing these games, man, it is really disheart all right,

2542
02:04:45,560 --> 02:04:48,320
Speaker 1: here we go. I'm already thinking to tomorrow's show. Let's

2543
02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:50,280
Speaker 1: hear it was just talking to our producer Jay Harriston

2544
02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:52,360
Speaker 1: to break here's our topic for tomorrow unless you guys

2545
02:04:52,400 --> 02:04:55,800
Speaker 1: overrule me. Best case scenario for the rest of the season,

2546
02:04:55,880 --> 02:04:57,920
Speaker 1: final seven games, and it's something along the line. And

2547
02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:00,640
Speaker 1: because I know what my best case scenario is, Josh

2548
02:05:00,720 --> 02:05:03,440
Speaker 1: Allen returns soon, maybe not this Sunday, but soon maybe

2549
02:05:03,440 --> 02:05:06,200
Speaker 1: after the buy and gets better and we see development

2550
02:05:06,240 --> 02:05:08,560
Speaker 1: from Josh Allen in the final seven six games of

2551
02:05:08,600 --> 02:05:10,880
Speaker 1: the year. To me, that's best case scenario. Don't answer

2552
02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:13,160
Speaker 1: because it might be the model show topic. But what

2553
02:05:13,240 --> 02:05:15,360
Speaker 1: do you think? Because I think you're right. People are

2554
02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:19,800
Speaker 1: kind of like, okay, seven, where are we going, evaluating

2555
02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:22,800
Speaker 1: their expectations and I get it, and then and rightfully

2556
02:05:22,880 --> 02:05:25,000
Speaker 1: so at this point, I mean, the offense, it's just

2557
02:05:25,120 --> 02:05:27,840
Speaker 1: not they're just not good enough at any level of

2558
02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:30,240
Speaker 1: their offense and there and it's and it's a shame

2559
02:05:30,280 --> 02:05:33,240
Speaker 1: too because their defense is, oh my gosh, more than

2560
02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:35,880
Speaker 1: compe there like top three defense. They are number three

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02:05:35,880 --> 02:05:38,720
Speaker 1: in the end, number three. Our defense is number three

2562
02:05:38,760 --> 02:05:41,280
Speaker 1: in the end. We're gonna win that bet, and nobody cares.

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02:05:41,640 --> 02:05:44,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna win that bet. Yeah, the non existent bet,

2564
02:05:44,720 --> 02:05:47,400
Speaker 1: the non existent bet. There were no stakes when you

2565
02:05:47,480 --> 02:05:48,920
Speaker 1: told me the Bills are gonna be top ten. It

2566
02:05:49,080 --> 02:05:52,160
Speaker 1: was such a you should have bet something, man, I

2567
02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:55,560
Speaker 1: would have paid, but you bet nothing. Their third right now.

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02:05:55,600 --> 02:05:59,280
Speaker 1: We'll see how it turns out anyway, eight three fifty

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Speaker 1: to three one eight five two fifty Gammon on the

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Speaker 1: line in Clarence. Hello, Gavin, go ahead. What's going on, guys?

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02:06:05,600 --> 02:06:08,360
Speaker 1: How you doing? We're good man? What's up? I got?

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02:06:08,560 --> 02:06:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm a little flustered with the whole Nathan Peterman situation,

2573
02:06:11,560 --> 02:06:13,440
Speaker 1: and I kind of want to know what McDermott and

2574
02:06:13,600 --> 02:06:16,160
Speaker 1: the rest of the coaching staff believes in this In

2575
02:06:16,240 --> 02:06:18,640
Speaker 1: this guy, I think that the best quarterback on the

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02:06:18,720 --> 02:06:21,320
Speaker 1: rocks of yesterday. He was the last. It was Nathan,

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Speaker 1: He was the last done. What would you have done

2578
02:06:22,880 --> 02:06:25,680
Speaker 1: Gavin Damn. He was the last guy standing. Yeah, I

2579
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:27,640
Speaker 1: think I think that we got to look in the

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Speaker 1: free agency now and now. Yeah, seriously, seriously, I think

2581
02:06:34,920 --> 02:06:38,960
Speaker 1: who would you bring in? And why? Why hasn't played

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02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:40,600
Speaker 1: in two years? Have you seen him? He looks like

2583
02:06:40,640 --> 02:06:42,720
Speaker 1: he weighs about one hundred and eighty five pounds anyway,

2584
02:06:42,760 --> 02:06:45,440
Speaker 1: Why he's ready to play? You're gonna plug Colin Kaepernick

2585
02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:49,160
Speaker 1: in instead of Josh Allen. No, not instead of Josh down,

2586
02:06:49,200 --> 02:06:51,880
Speaker 1: but instead of Nathan Peterman. We need someone. You got deep.

2587
02:06:51,960 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 1: You got Derek Anderson to plug instead of Nathan Peterson

2588
02:06:54,440 --> 02:06:57,400
Speaker 1: and Josh and Derek Anderson is good for the rocker.

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Speaker 1: You don't know why playing two games? Did he? Did

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02:07:03,440 --> 02:07:05,040
Speaker 1: he have a touchdown in those two games? I don't

2591
02:07:05,080 --> 02:07:08,520
Speaker 1: think so? Oh? I all right, okay, so you think

2592
02:07:09,240 --> 02:07:13,080
Speaker 1: bring it in yet another free agent quarterback? Cutting Matt Barkley,

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02:07:13,120 --> 02:07:15,680
Speaker 1: I take it. Unless you want five quarterbacks on the roster.

2594
02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:18,919
Speaker 1: You cut Brett Matt Barkley, you cut j Nathan Peterman,

2595
02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:23,200
Speaker 1: You bring in Colin Kaepernick or who whatever else, whatever

2596
02:07:23,560 --> 02:07:25,400
Speaker 1: other caller wants to bring in. You bring the guy

2597
02:07:25,480 --> 02:07:27,240
Speaker 1: in and you start getting him up to speed over

2598
02:07:27,280 --> 02:07:33,640
Speaker 1: the bye week and Josh Allen's healthy, and then what Yeah,

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02:07:33,720 --> 02:07:36,200
Speaker 1: I say, it depends on if Kaepernick's doing. Okay, we

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02:07:36,240 --> 02:07:38,080
Speaker 1: do get Kaepernick and he gets a good shot in

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Speaker 1: there and he does well, then then we play a

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Speaker 1: year to year or game the game. But okay, you're

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02:07:44,440 --> 02:07:48,280
Speaker 1: you're telling me you're gonna plug anybody else in there

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02:07:48,840 --> 02:07:51,720
Speaker 1: over a healthy Josh Allen. No, no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 1: But if that's not what I'm saying. But if Kaepernick

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Speaker 1: is on the team, does well and we're winning games,

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02:07:57,800 --> 02:07:59,640
Speaker 1: then I don't see a reason to put Josh Allen

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02:07:59,640 --> 02:08:02,320
Speaker 1: back in. Well, if we're winning games, I agree. Look,

2609
02:08:02,680 --> 02:08:04,840
Speaker 1: let's let's let's let me tell me slow both of

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Speaker 1: you down. Colin Kaepernick is not coming here for a

2611
02:08:07,440 --> 02:08:10,640
Speaker 1: variety of reasons, including the fact that he probably can't

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02:08:10,680 --> 02:08:12,880
Speaker 1: help the Bills or anybody else, hasn't played in a

2613
02:08:12,920 --> 02:08:14,760
Speaker 1: couple of years, doesn't look like he's ready to play,

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02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:17,280
Speaker 1: and there's a political aspect too that keeps him out

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02:08:17,280 --> 02:08:18,800
Speaker 1: of the NFL. I don't deny that, but he's not

2616
02:08:18,880 --> 02:08:20,920
Speaker 1: coming here. You don't think that either. What are you

2617
02:08:21,000 --> 02:08:23,120
Speaker 1: talking about not coming? We really, really, come on, I

2618
02:08:23,160 --> 02:08:24,800
Speaker 1: don't think that at all, But I do think that

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Speaker 1: we need to look for a better backup quarterback. Well,

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02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:30,200
Speaker 1: they're probably not one available right now in the off season.

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Speaker 1: I'm all. I'm with you. I'm right along with you, Gavin,

2622
02:08:32,400 --> 02:08:34,839
Speaker 1: in the offseason that let's get better at backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I'm good with that. Caul here from Ray and Rochester. Hello, Ray,

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02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:42,440
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Hi guys, Hi, Um,

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Speaker 1: here's here's my main thing. I've been a Buildsan oh God,

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Speaker 1: for thirty plus years. We've gone through numerous quarterbacks. You've

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Speaker 1: gone through numerous receivers. And you know, I'm watching those that, uh,

2628
02:08:59,160 --> 02:09:02,200
Speaker 1: the Packers and angling, I'm watching the Saints and the Rams.

2629
02:09:02,240 --> 02:09:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm watching them play, and yeah, they have better quarterbacks,

2630
02:09:06,720 --> 02:09:12,360
Speaker 1: but any they have decent better receivers overall. But the

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02:09:12,520 --> 02:09:15,000
Speaker 1: main thing they have that I don't see the Bill's

2632
02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:18,800
Speaker 1: head had and I don't know how long is blocking?

2633
02:09:19,880 --> 02:09:23,200
Speaker 1: How can you do good on offense? I don't care

2634
02:09:23,480 --> 02:09:26,200
Speaker 1: if you're Aaron Rodgers. I don't care if you're Tom Brady,

2635
02:09:26,760 --> 02:09:28,680
Speaker 1: I don't care. If you have the best receivers, the

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02:09:28,760 --> 02:09:33,680
Speaker 1: best running back. You cannot run an offense without blocking.

2637
02:09:33,840 --> 02:09:36,080
Speaker 1: And they don't have it, and they haven't had it.

2638
02:09:36,160 --> 02:09:37,960
Speaker 1: They haven't had an offensive line and I don't know

2639
02:09:38,040 --> 02:09:40,640
Speaker 1: how long. Well, three years ago they led the NFL

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02:09:40,840 --> 02:09:43,160
Speaker 1: for two years straight and running rushing, so they were

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02:09:43,160 --> 02:09:45,040
Speaker 1: pretty good a couple of years ago. Then you know,

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02:09:45,160 --> 02:09:47,440
Speaker 1: they lost some good players. Doesn't give them time to

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02:09:47,560 --> 02:09:49,400
Speaker 1: drop back and throw a pass either, though, does it.

2644
02:09:49,520 --> 02:09:54,760
Speaker 1: So they had to run obviously because they couldn't pass. Well, yeah, right, Okay,

2645
02:09:54,920 --> 02:09:59,280
Speaker 1: So you can't run an offense without blocking, it's impossible.

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02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:01,920
Speaker 1: I agree. The offensive line is the biggest problem, I

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02:10:02,040 --> 02:10:06,240
Speaker 1: believe Ray for this offense. They've got a litany of

2648
02:10:06,280 --> 02:10:08,240
Speaker 1: issues on offense, but at the top of the list,

2649
02:10:08,320 --> 02:10:10,480
Speaker 1: on top of my list, is bad played by the

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02:10:10,560 --> 02:10:13,680
Speaker 1: offensive line. Worse than the quarterback question, worse than the

2651
02:10:13,680 --> 02:10:15,680
Speaker 1: white I think. And I think the coaching staff has

2652
02:10:15,720 --> 02:10:18,120
Speaker 1: proven that they agree with you because they started platooning

2653
02:10:18,200 --> 02:10:20,520
Speaker 1: these guys. They're starting to shuffle all kinds of people

2654
02:10:20,600 --> 02:10:23,360
Speaker 1: in or anybody they can end the offensive line, starting

2655
02:10:23,440 --> 02:10:26,200
Speaker 1: looking at younger players and different players in different combinations.

2656
02:10:27,320 --> 02:10:29,840
Speaker 1: They're getting to the point of I think that without

2657
02:10:29,880 --> 02:10:32,840
Speaker 1: saying anything, nobody they are talking like this, But I

2658
02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:35,840
Speaker 1: think it's a point of desperation. They're trying anything, and

2659
02:10:36,040 --> 02:10:39,240
Speaker 1: the offensive line is a big part of it. So yeah, Ray,

2660
02:10:39,320 --> 02:10:41,600
Speaker 1: I think we agree with you, and I think the

2661
02:10:41,680 --> 02:10:44,360
Speaker 1: coaching staff has proven through the guys who were playing

2662
02:10:44,400 --> 02:10:46,800
Speaker 1: that they agree with you as well. One more tweet

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Speaker 1: before we go to break. I can't believe the show's

2664
02:10:48,520 --> 02:10:51,200
Speaker 1: almost winding down here. Team Many twenty two love you guys,

2665
02:10:51,240 --> 02:10:54,480
Speaker 1: but come on, big excuse makers apologists. Just a few

2666
02:10:54,520 --> 02:10:56,800
Speaker 1: weeks ago, it's don't give up on the season, easy

2667
02:10:56,880 --> 02:10:58,960
Speaker 1: schedule coming up. They're not out of it now. It's

2668
02:10:59,000 --> 02:11:02,160
Speaker 1: a rebuilding. Players aren't good enough. You're excusing poor coaching.

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02:11:02,280 --> 02:11:04,800
Speaker 1: Dable is not good. Team Many twenty two love you too.

2670
02:11:05,800 --> 02:11:08,280
Speaker 1: A few weeks ago, they've lost four in a row. Yeah,

2671
02:11:08,400 --> 02:11:10,480
Speaker 1: things have changed. In the last four weeks, they've lost

2672
02:11:10,520 --> 02:11:13,440
Speaker 1: four straight games. Yes, things have changed. I'm not saying

2673
02:11:13,480 --> 02:11:16,120
Speaker 1: give up on the season, but the days of looking

2674
02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:18,960
Speaker 1: at winnable games are over. Until you start scoring touchdowns

2675
02:11:19,000 --> 02:11:22,320
Speaker 1: on a regular basis, it is transitioning into a rebuild.

2676
02:11:22,360 --> 02:11:24,320
Speaker 1: It is you're right about that. I don't know if

2677
02:11:24,360 --> 02:11:27,480
Speaker 1: we're excusing poor coaching, are we I'm not what I mean.

2678
02:11:27,840 --> 02:11:30,680
Speaker 1: People say, you gotta they gotta be accountable, accountable. They've

2679
02:11:30,680 --> 02:11:33,200
Speaker 1: got their one loss record out there. They have more coaches,

2680
02:11:33,240 --> 02:11:35,880
Speaker 1: have more accountability than any any any of us do

2681
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:38,600
Speaker 1: in our professions. They got a one loss record. That's

2682
02:11:38,640 --> 02:11:40,600
Speaker 1: what they're accountable for. And if they lose one than

2683
02:11:40,600 --> 02:11:42,160
Speaker 1: they win, they will have to answer for that. What

2684
02:11:42,240 --> 02:11:44,560
Speaker 1: do you want us to do? What do you mean accountability?

2685
02:11:44,640 --> 02:11:47,640
Speaker 1: You know you're excusing poor coaching. I'm not excusing anything

2686
02:11:47,880 --> 02:11:51,760
Speaker 1: can excuse? All right? Sorry? Did I go ahead? Area

2687
02:11:52,360 --> 02:11:54,800
Speaker 1: a breath, Take a breath and break. Coming up with more.

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Speaker 1: of this Early on a one o'clock hour, and he

2695
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Speaker 1: talked about the offensive struggles for the Buffalo Bills. This

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02:12:30,840 --> 02:12:33,720
Speaker 1: is an offensive line that it's clear to me, Brian

2697
02:12:33,800 --> 02:12:36,720
Speaker 1: Dabele does not believe can execute a screenplay, so that's

2698
02:12:36,760 --> 02:12:39,280
Speaker 1: out of the playbook. You can't use that. I think

2699
02:12:39,320 --> 02:12:41,960
Speaker 1: he's calling plays with a hand tied behind his back

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02:12:42,040 --> 02:12:44,800
Speaker 1: because you can't execute a screenplay. So when you got

2701
02:12:45,360 --> 02:12:47,600
Speaker 1: a defenders pinning their ears back and coming after your

2702
02:12:47,680 --> 02:12:49,040
Speaker 1: quarterback and you want to slow him down with a

2703
02:12:49,080 --> 02:12:51,480
Speaker 1: screen pass, you can't even turn to that as an option.

2704
02:12:52,160 --> 02:12:56,640
Speaker 1: So I think the solutions are limited in scope because

2705
02:12:56,640 --> 02:12:59,800
Speaker 1: you have an offensive line that's limited in ability, and

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02:13:00,480 --> 02:13:04,280
Speaker 1: that just takes so much out of your your playbook

2707
02:13:05,000 --> 02:13:07,360
Speaker 1: that now you become you run the risk of becoming

2708
02:13:07,600 --> 02:13:11,040
Speaker 1: predictable by virtue of the fact that you have reduced

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Speaker 1: options to turn to because you can't execute the other

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Speaker 1: better tomorrow, Come on back tomorrow. Production assistance from George Blast,

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