WEBVTT - Thought Criminal

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<v Speaker 1>Of the law and order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies. These episodes are based on.

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<v Speaker 3>These are our stories.

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<v Speaker 4>Done done, Hello and welcome to That's Messed Up, an

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<v Speaker 4>SVU podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Kara Klank and I'm Liza Traeger. We talk SVU,

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<v Speaker 2>true crime. We catch up sometimes we have guess we're tired.

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<v Speaker 2>Give us a break. We'll get the celebs back soon,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, let them get their houses in order or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why I brought up the fires, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know they're still probably they're settled, right, the fires

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<v Speaker 2>are done.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, They're not fully out, but they're looking good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>kno gonna want people are. People are know, there's been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of great outreach and stuff, and people are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to.

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<v Speaker 3>Hear a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like a neck pillow for a plane and

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<v Speaker 2>it's bothering me.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, you need to take care of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like too tight, but I'm just cold out here

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<v Speaker 1>in my garage.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, is that better? It is better? It just was

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<v Speaker 3>I was like it just looked too like it was

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<v Speaker 3>strangling me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my mother in law got me for Christmas this

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<v Speaker 1>blanket for travel that can go on your suitcase but

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<v Speaker 1>also can shove into itself and become a little pillow.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was kind of good. It's very soft.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess that everything is dirty and disgusting anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't like the idea of like wrapping it

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<v Speaker 2>on my suitcase and then putting it on my body.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're also, oh, it just on the suitcase thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like it's on the metal side.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like on the metal on the metal Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Nowhere wait, obviously, you know the inauguration.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to spend much time on it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was hanging out with a friend, a fellow friend,

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<v Speaker 2>Jared Freed, and I think he's gonna do I hope

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<v Speaker 2>he does this on stage. But he went minute one,

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<v Speaker 2>ahile Hitler like what are you doing? Like minute one,

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's like well, and it's like dum screaming from the rooftops.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even believe it. And people are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, it's just the I mean, it's wild to

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<v Speaker 2>be living in this, but just a full Nazi salute

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<v Speaker 2>that's being denied like we see a Nazi salute and

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<v Speaker 2>they're telling us it's not and yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>He's throwing his heart out to the crowd. It's like,

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<v Speaker 3>since when.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that know what that means? It's not what that is?

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<v Speaker 2>Things mean, things like that's the whole point of things.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like they have Nate words famously. Yeah, another thing

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to rage on and then I will calmm down.

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<v Speaker 2>When on Etsy Luigi merch only two things like impossible,

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<v Speaker 2>shut down, every link shutdown, shutdown. Started looking at other killers.

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<v Speaker 2>You could get ted Bundy stuff, Uni bomber. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>candle that says smells like Dahmer. Smells like Dahmer candle.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get fucking gayyy shit, you can get anything.

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<v Speaker 2>They're shutting Luigi's story down. I'm not crazy. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>just because he's hot, Like I there there is this

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<v Speaker 2>is the case we.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to pay attention to. That is so crazy. No,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll continue following and keeping. They don't like commenting nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's really wild. I played trivia last night

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<v Speaker 1>at a gay bar in Losilis, and one of the

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<v Speaker 1>teams was called what happened to the Luigi Mangioni News cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the name of the team, so people are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to keep his name out there, and I also

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to put in not related to Luigi. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the questions at trivia was in the movie Van Helsing,

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<v Speaker 1>Dracula has three wives.

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<v Speaker 3>They are never named.

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<v Speaker 1>Acy's ears perked up. He hear Dracula they are They

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<v Speaker 1>are not named. Dracula's three wives are not named in

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<v Speaker 1>other places, only in this movie. What are the names

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<v Speaker 1>of Dracula's three wives? So I asked Jared today, he

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<v Speaker 1>goes Van Helsing is so bad it's almost unwatchable. I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot believe that they would do a question about Dracula

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<v Speaker 1>that's from that movie. Anyway, the three wives, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know what two of them are. I forgot one

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<v Speaker 1>of them is Marishka van Helsting. Whatever the wives is Marishka.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just thought, wow, interesting to bring it to

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<v Speaker 1>the pod. Of course, do not bring it. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>would be wild if you didn't bring it up. And

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<v Speaker 1>one more thing that a listener pointed out that I

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<v Speaker 1>knew you needed to know.

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<v Speaker 3>Last week we talked about Baggage.

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<v Speaker 1>For the episode Baggage, we talked about the reality show

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<v Speaker 1>or the dating show you talked about. Guess who has

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<v Speaker 1>been on it? Jack's and Tom Schwartz. Wow, bless this listener,

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<v Speaker 1>Bless this listener. I thank you. They sent me links. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do have an update and then it's back

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<v Speaker 1>to Luigi. But like, remember I told you and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>about how at Soul Cycle the teacher was like, who

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<v Speaker 1>has a crush?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it real or parasocial?

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<v Speaker 2>So today I had the courage to go talk to

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<v Speaker 2>this teacher and I was like, you know, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>quoting you for weeks. I'm like, you really said something funny.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I told her and then we I go

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<v Speaker 2>read us bitch and she goes, I know it's it

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<v Speaker 2>was mostly for me because I love Luigi Mangioni.

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<v Speaker 3>I go, girl, we're connected. Wow. So then we talked

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<v Speaker 3>for a while. We talked for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I cut to you guys getting a

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<v Speaker 1>drink after soul just.

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<v Speaker 3>Well no, I was telling her.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, I was going to go to

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<v Speaker 2>the trial and then come to swifty Saturday class. And

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<v Speaker 2>she goes, I know, but the trial was pushed. I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're connected. Nice. I'm like, but if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>go to trial, before your classes.

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<v Speaker 3>We could do that. Yeah, text me. Yeah, that's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. I love that for you guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to have a trial, buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched Someone messaged and said I have to watch

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<v Speaker 2>Escape to Dana mora At Okay, I loved it. I

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<v Speaker 2>watched it in a day and a half. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>best acting I've ever watched in my life. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know Ben Stiller had that kind of directing in him,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I need to watch Severance now. I was like

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<v Speaker 2>blown away. And then I started watching all the press videos.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm also an obsessive person, but like it

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<v Speaker 2>really was so impressive. It really like paul I. I

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<v Speaker 2>like to say Dano, but that's not how you say.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's Dana. Just yeah, I just watched all

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<v Speaker 2>the interviews Dano. Okay, I'm with you. It makes me

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<v Speaker 2>feel uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>I just ye.

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<v Speaker 1>So.

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<v Speaker 2>But him and Benicio del Toro, like they really embody

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<v Speaker 2>these characters in like a wild amperature shartkit is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's insane. It really is.

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<v Speaker 2>Patricia, we want you on the pod if you're hiving.

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking about it NonStop. I can't stop talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it, So I'm bringing it up in every conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, not, I'm doing spots and I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>to anyone that will. I'm hanging out with me Brick.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, blah blah blah blah blah. They're like, when

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<v Speaker 2>did it come out? I go, oh, like last year

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<v Speaker 2>and I got nominated for a bunch of stuff. They

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<v Speaker 2>look it up, They're like, it's twenty eighteen, you dumb bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>Not talking about it. From a while, They're like, you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it like I just cat you are crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>And then every time they would appear, it was me

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it to someone else and they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, you need to shut the fuck up. This is

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<v Speaker 3>from twenty eighteen. Like I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's like, we need to escape from Lisa's escape to Danima.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember. I have to look over my notes again.

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<v Speaker 2>But they try to make you sympathetic to one of them,

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<v Speaker 2>and it seems like they didn't commit the crime. They

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<v Speaker 2>were with people that committed the crimes, and you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of feel bad for one of them, and I wonder,

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<v Speaker 2>but we.

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<v Speaker 3>Did feel bad, didn't we? Or did he do it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>There was one that you said was like more charismatic

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<v Speaker 1>and was like the show was like running the show,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, but the charismatic one is an he like

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<v Speaker 2>he's the one that was an alcohol and had to

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<v Speaker 2>get ditched.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it really humanized it. But it also made prison

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<v Speaker 2>They shot it for seven months.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa.

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<v Speaker 2>They shot it in the prisons, like in these towns

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<v Speaker 2>in the winter where it's cold, with prisoner like former

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<v Speaker 2>clons as extras, like you know, for seven months. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just like, was very impressive to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>I liked it. Well, I'm glad. I'm glad you watched it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean for Ben Stiller, like he really contains multitudes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well he does. He like direct Severance. Yeah, dude, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta watch Severance. I'm really behind on Severn. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta watch Escape, Dan Mora, I know, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta watch it. I mean, but it's the classic movie.

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<v Speaker 1>They really I mean, looking at these guys, it's like hot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you know, yeah, I mean a fucking hot.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is like you're like, damn, this is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hot. And then you see and then and then

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<v Speaker 1>at the end they do flash the the head not

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<v Speaker 1>the head shots.

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<v Speaker 2>What are the jail opens the mugshots head shots, so

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<v Speaker 2>the mugs. They they flashed the mugshots, and I was reminded,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they're not as hot because I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>should I be writing letters to this guy too?

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm not going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh wait, I wanted to tell you about this

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<v Speaker 1>article I read speaking of like discovering something that's old.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this article got served to me on

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<v Speaker 1>like Instagram from the cut right, and it's about these

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<v Speaker 1>two kids that were like in seventh or eighth grade,

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<v Speaker 1>and they suddenly were they were dating each other, and

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<v Speaker 1>they suddenly started getting texts harassing them, like both of them,

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<v Speaker 1>like be like, you know, telling the girl the guy

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<v Speaker 1>was cheating, telling the guy he was a piece of shit,

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Harass, harass, harassed.

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<v Speaker 1>To the point that like by the time they got

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<v Speaker 1>to ninth grade, they broke up because it was like

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<v Speaker 1>it was too much, like it was happening all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and the parents were like meeting with the school and

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<v Speaker 1>like we got to find out who this is. They

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<v Speaker 1>all think it's this like other girl who's very popular

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<v Speaker 1>who's maybe trying to break them up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like not her.

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<v Speaker 1>They check her phones, but the person's obviously doing it

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<v Speaker 1>from a burner.

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<v Speaker 3>The way it's written is so good. It's like this

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<v Speaker 3>long mystery.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, if you want to read this article fast forward

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<v Speaker 1>whatever two minutes right now, because I'm gonna spoil it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the fucking girl's mom the whole time. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>girl's mom. She's like trying to a real Debbie mazar

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<v Speaker 1>It Yames. Yeah, but like what like then she was

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with getting them back together because she wanted them

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<v Speaker 1>to be together, because she wanted her daughter to be popular.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really really crazy. And I'm sitting there going,

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<v Speaker 1>They've got to make this into a movie. Someone's got

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<v Speaker 1>to option this article. Of course I google it. It

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<v Speaker 1>was made into a Lifetime movie. The Mother played by

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa Rinna Whoa.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to watch that. I was like, what the

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<v Speaker 3>hell it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was the way that they wove the story,

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<v Speaker 1>like you really got the idea of how this was

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<v Speaker 1>like psychologically damaging the kids. Like the kids were just

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<v Speaker 1>like everywhere we went, they could the person knew what

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<v Speaker 1>we were wearing. They knew like what we were doing

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<v Speaker 1>in school, Like the mom.

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<v Speaker 3>No one would suspect it's the mom harassing.

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<v Speaker 1>Her kid, right, yeah, the mom was involving her friends

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<v Speaker 1>to like get her sympathy for all the harassment and

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you guys should go check check in on her,

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<v Speaker 1>like she's upset or whatever. And it's just like this

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<v Speaker 1>wild small townshit in I think in Michigan it was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a wild ride. Anyway, I recommend the article.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll send it to Casey. Maybe we can put it

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<v Speaker 1>in the show notes. And it was I just was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I can't believe we Renna plays the mom.

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<v Speaker 3>That's kind of perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I don't want to get there's so much Housewives

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<v Speaker 1>on right now. I don't know if we can fully

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<v Speaker 1>get into a recap. And Casey just gave us the ten.

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<v Speaker 1>But that text game they played in the Salt Lake

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<v Speaker 1>City finale.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're psychotic.

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<v Speaker 2>So for those who haven't heard and living under a rock,

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<v Speaker 2>basically someone was like someone was like, for us to

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<v Speaker 2>be closer together, how about we find the meanest text

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<v Speaker 2>we have talking about someone at this table and then

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<v Speaker 2>we make them read it, and then that's how we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna all bury the hatchet. And then they all agreed

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<v Speaker 2>to do it, and then they read the meanest texts.

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<v Speaker 2>The one that bron Win read out loud was like

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<v Speaker 2>from Angie, it yeah, insane and she's a psychopath but

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<v Speaker 2>poetic and she's good with words somehow, she's like good

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<v Speaker 2>at a read, like I think because like she grew

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<v Speaker 2>up with like a tough situation.

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<v Speaker 3>With her mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think she got used to like cutting solow

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody like comes for her, you know, like Angie

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<v Speaker 1>goes low.

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<v Speaker 2>But then her and Mary, you know, that was a

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<v Speaker 2>moment moving forward, it was nice, but it's just but

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<v Speaker 2>then Lisa is annoying. It's I hate it. I hate

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<v Speaker 2>the thing of like we're all reading mean things. Everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>putting up with it. I guess yours is the meanest one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now you.

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<v Speaker 2>End the fun and you scream and you need to

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<v Speaker 2>be treated. I really hate Lisa.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she she threw Angie under the bus like

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<v Speaker 1>she she like everyone's like Angie caught strays because it's

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<v Speaker 1>like Angie didn't even do anything to Lisa.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Lisa's like, I heard your husband does circle jerks.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you guys are not interested in real

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<v Speaker 1>housewives as Saltlake City after we talk about it, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what to tell you, like literally, can you

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<v Speaker 1>imagine sitting around with your friends and going find the

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<v Speaker 1>meanest text you have in your phone and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>read them out. We're going to make each other read

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<v Speaker 1>them about loud, like the subject of the text read

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<v Speaker 1>it out loud, like.

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<v Speaker 3>So brutal, like savage, Like I could not believe.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I mean the producers whoever came up

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<v Speaker 1>with the idea, because like you could tell, they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>really scrolling through their phones, like those texts were like

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<v Speaker 1>solid images, you know, like they were ready to be

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<v Speaker 1>read out loud. So that was worked on and executed

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<v Speaker 1>in a insane way.

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<v Speaker 3>I just was like blown away.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait for the reunion, Wait for the reunion.

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<v Speaker 2>Mecki Leaper, Leper, Makai Lepper. What's his name? Mechi Leaper? Yeah, cutie.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was just on Watch What Happens Live. I

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<v Speaker 2>just watched it. But I guess one of the below

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<v Speaker 2>deck people loves the milf but he changed it to

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<v Speaker 2>moms that I like to they get nicer. So they

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<v Speaker 2>played a game called like Millie or Not Milly, and

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<v Speaker 2>they had bedazzled gavels and it was just like they

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<v Speaker 2>would just show MILFs of the Bravo Universe, and they

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<v Speaker 2>went nuts for Luanne, but they did not gavel for

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa from Salt Lake, and I was like, yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>actually want to message him right now and be like

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<v Speaker 2>fuck yes, like fuck that bitch. I really don't like her.

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<v Speaker 2>I really hate I don't like the Lisa worship. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like it. She sucks and.

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<v Speaker 3>The Lisa worship is bad.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lisa worship is to me, side by side with

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<v Speaker 1>the Teresa Judae worship, Like if you're worshiping these two women,

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<v Speaker 1>something's wrong with you. Like it's like it's crazy, like

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa is I don't know that. I guess they're different

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<v Speaker 1>because Teresa's just insanely dumb. Lisa doesn't seem dumb to me,

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<v Speaker 1>but she seems so defensive. It's like I have the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect I've got her.

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<v Speaker 2>She's just not real in any capacity and defensive and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like, I don't know, it's just not fun for me,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you're now you're screaming and you're running away and

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<v Speaker 2>you ruined everything. There was two more texts and they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get to have to read anything. They're gonna make

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<v Speaker 2>them do it on the reunion and then Meredith runs away.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>Meredith doesn't bring enough story to be running away and

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<v Speaker 1>doing stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, she's just a pill popper. Yeah, yeah, she goes.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I never take any medication like that and listen,

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<v Speaker 1>let an international flight or something. I'm like, just the

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<v Speaker 1>way you said international flight, you are on a pill.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's also.

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<v Speaker 2>Ali baba, ali baba, ali bababa. But also like Brittany

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<v Speaker 2>just saying I heard you coughing or like puking or something,

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<v Speaker 2>and then she's like, you implied I had an eat

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<v Speaker 2>disorder and it's like, no one actually implied that, but

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<v Speaker 2>now we think it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now you.

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<v Speaker 1>Were throwing up from drinking or something or just from

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<v Speaker 1>being sick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wait, I do have some SVU stuff. I

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<v Speaker 2>watched the newest episode Amy Landecker former Guests. She didn't

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<v Speaker 2>let us know she was in an upcoming new episode.

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<v Speaker 2>She's back on SVU and it's the pillocock Case, the

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<v Speaker 2>pilicock case.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I can't even.

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<v Speaker 2>Believe it because when the episode started I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck is it?

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<v Speaker 3>What is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>And then when it all unraveled, I couldn't believe it,

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<v Speaker 2>but also I was blacked out drunk, I think, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I do have to rewatch it because today I

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<v Speaker 2>did wake up to go to Soul Cycle, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, how did I get I was like, what

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<v Speaker 2>did I watch?

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<v Speaker 3>And then I did see a bag.

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<v Speaker 2>Of taco bell and then I felt it, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>You unraveled the mystery of what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see it yet, but I did hear from

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<v Speaker 1>several listeners that there's another Tommy in this episode. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to get to the bottom of the Tommy warship

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<v Speaker 1>on SVU, Like I need to know why. Is there

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of beloved cameraman that everybody loves and they

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<v Speaker 1>just want to name as many characters after him as possible?

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, there must be something, or do they just

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<v Speaker 2>it's so easy they don't think about it. But it

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<v Speaker 2>must be a running gag. It must be something on purpose,

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<v Speaker 2>like the something's taped it to Dick Wolf.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's gotta be Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you probably you already mentioned this, but I

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't paid attention to it even though I was catching

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<v Speaker 2>up on SVU, but seeing Kevin Kane in the credits

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<v Speaker 2>is fun, it's nice, it's exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we were.

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<v Speaker 1>Manifesting him becoming a guy, and I'm like a regular

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm happy that he did.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he adds a lot. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to go to a screening of a movie

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<v Speaker 2>that comes out in March.

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<v Speaker 3>So obviously Cool Girl, Cool Girl Plans.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was at the Tribeca Film Center and I'd

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<v Speaker 2>never been there, like where they have, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>Cool Awards. But it was a movie called Bob Trevino

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<v Speaker 2>likes it, Barbie Ferrara, John Leguizamo, and I cried hard.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of the best movies I've seen.

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<v Speaker 1>It could called Jean Trevino liked it. Oh, sorry, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>Bob Trevino likes it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wow, okay, that sounds cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was incredible. When it comes out, I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta see it. Yeah, I think it's like it's an indie.

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<v Speaker 1>It did the fests, but it's like I just was

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<v Speaker 1>so into it. It was really like heartbreaking and a

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<v Speaker 1>good movie and unique and interesting and I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great. That's great and I felt cool. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>that how fifteen people in a room.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I like that only fifteen people at the screening.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn is that she only invited? Like fit? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>was just like, I think that's exciting cool while the

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<v Speaker 3>word is out.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the word is out. I cried so much. It

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<v Speaker 2>really is touching and beautiful. And I love John like Ouizamo,

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<v Speaker 2>like I do really love him. And he is the

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<v Speaker 2>titular Bob Trevino. He is Bob Trevino. Oh and French Stewart,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting? Okay, great, I'm exed. I'll watch it. I'll watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's gonna be popping up when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>out on all my I don't know what streaming or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe theaters.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I don't know that much, but I just, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta gotta let the people know what's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I had more things to talk about besides

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<v Speaker 2>the TV and film that I'm well.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and my one thing we can talk about is

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<v Speaker 1>that today is your Netflix special comes out? Wow?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, today is the day. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thrilling, thrilling, Please watch it, like watch it, put

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<v Speaker 2>it on today if you can on like watch it

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<v Speaker 2>this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can either search Lisa's name or night Owl

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<v Speaker 1>is what it's called. So get on your Netflix, get

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<v Speaker 1>it watching, put it on on mute even after you've

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<v Speaker 1>watched it, and just let it keep playing.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. Yeah, it is super exciting. But also.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm getting a cake made for tonight, and but

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<v Speaker 2>it's inspired by it was David Tell's birthday and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a baker at the cellar that's incredible. But like the

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<v Speaker 2>baking dish, the clear dish, it made it look like

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<v Speaker 2>an ashtray with like cream of or like cookies and

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<v Speaker 2>cream and then cigarettes made out of pretzels dipped in

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<v Speaker 2>white chocolate, and so it looked like this giant ash tray.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, yes, bitch, So I'm hopefully gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have really cool blunt and weed desserts tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, that is really fun. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want an ashtray cake like cool, I know. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I need picks please, oh, because I also like the idea,

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<v Speaker 2>because I hate the idea of cutting cake and passing

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<v Speaker 2>out cake and holding a cake, but like if you're

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<v Speaker 2>just picking up a cigarette and frosting, it's like pop.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean like, it's just like easier to get a

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<v Speaker 2>sweet treat and not like have you not have no and.

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<v Speaker 1>A fork and the crumbs. You're just like dip eat.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. I'm all about less fuss. You know

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<v Speaker 1>that's functional functional sweetness.

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<v Speaker 3>Love it, love it. That's a great idea. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, so Lisa's Night Owl on Netflix. If you

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<v Speaker 1>live in or around DC, we are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>there doing That's Messed Up on the twenty third of

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<v Speaker 1>February at the DC Improv. You can get tickets at

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<v Speaker 1>That's Messed Up live dot com. If you've come before,

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<v Speaker 1>we do a different episode. We have different games. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be really fun. Come check it out.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, stay strong, stay positive, and don't grab your

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<v Speaker 2>phone right in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we usually say this at the end. I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you're listening now and you've never given us

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<v Speaker 1>a review on on Apple or whatever Spotify, go give one.

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<v Speaker 3>Just let people know that you like us. It would

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<v Speaker 3>be helpful for us. I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't ask that much. Dude, I was so blocked out.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I have the Sorry, I have the screen split. Sorry, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>behind a peek behind the curtain, but it's half zoom,

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<v Speaker 2>half chrome, so I could read my notes, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>on movie grid and I, like I said, was so drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that I played. And I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>a finished one, going oh wow, wow, I did well, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. Well let me see, let's show results. Top

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen percent of players in a black while you while

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<v Speaker 1>you're blacked. I was gonna say, good work. Yeah, not bad,

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<v Speaker 1>not bad at all, not the best, but thirteen top

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen percent.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, But I hope.

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<v Speaker 2>I become so successful that I get to they'll be

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<v Speaker 2>I get to pick a movie grid for the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to create a movie Grid presented by Feature

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah special guest movie Grid curator Lisa Trigger. They've got

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<v Speaker 1>to get you. I mean, once you email them off,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they'll be like, we have to let her

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<v Speaker 1>do this.

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<v Speaker 3>So she stops.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder who they are, Like who are these people?

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<v Speaker 2>And are they like this woman is weird? Or like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh she likes what we're doing. Maybe a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of both. Oh, I'm gonna get a library card and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so stupid, Like I went, I got my pieces

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<v Speaker 2>of mail skipped onto the library, so excited brought my laptop,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, of course it's Mlkday, Like that's when

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<v Speaker 2>I decided to make a pilgrimage.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm gonna go.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I'm about to be a library girl. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sick of because then I went to a bar to

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<v Speaker 2>do my work and you get a girl cheese and soup,

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<v Speaker 2>you get one apparall sprits, and then you're thirty seven

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<v Speaker 2>dollars in.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't Yeah, I don't want that. I can't live

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I can't get I mean once in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but it.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't that good. It also wasn't that good.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like but yeah, yeah, no the last

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<v Speaker 1>you're about to be a library girl.

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<v Speaker 3>In wee how I was a library girl. I worked

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<v Speaker 3>there all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Now when I go to a library, mostly with my children,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling them not to scream. But I love that

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Uh, let's get into today's episode. We are

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<v Speaker 1>doing a really really uh you know a thinker. I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, okay, today we are doing thought Criminal Season fifteen,

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:09.360
<v Speaker 1>episode twenty three. This is I would say, in the

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<v Speaker 1>top ten like sort of moral conundrum episodes where they're

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<v Speaker 1>really trying to get you to think about, like what

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<v Speaker 1>what is the role of the law, you know, in society.

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<v Speaker 1>So a very interesting episode. We open on a girl

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<v Speaker 1>like talking to camera. She's like, my name is Lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>When we pull out, we see it's Brookes. So so

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<v Speaker 1>from Orange is the New Black. The actor's name is

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<v Speaker 1>Camiko Glenn. I looked her up and she is working

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. She does a ton of voiceover. She is

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<v Speaker 1>just like vovovio, so good for her. And she's like

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<v Speaker 1>doing an accent because we know the actress has an

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<v Speaker 1>American accent and she's doing a Thai accent. She goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fourteen, I live in Thailand and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>play with you. So this is not a YouTube channel,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not an unboxing.

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<v Speaker 3>This is bad.

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<v Speaker 1>We immediately least see like just a funny scream that

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<v Speaker 1>has a bunch of pop up windows come up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, what is that?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that how they're coming up to the NYPD just

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 1>pop up windows everywhere and they're just text messages that

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:15.360
<v Speaker 1>are popping up. And we're now we're at the precinct

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:18.439
<v Speaker 1>and it's Finn Tomorrow Rollins Live. They're all monitoring the

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<v Speaker 1>responses of this which are coming in fast and furious

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gross, and I happen to pause it with

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<v Speaker 1>enough time to see a few of them, and some

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:27.920
<v Speaker 1>of them are just like, oh, I want to play

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<v Speaker 1>with you, or you're so pretty. One says do you

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<v Speaker 1>like to wear your bra? Which I thought, this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to be the guy that I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>She's that You're probably not gonna be the one she

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<v Speaker 1>chooses to meet up with for you to go do sex.

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<v Speaker 3>Tourism or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, this woman is a plant like live Live goes feeder.

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<v Speaker 1>Some more lines and they're waiting for a response to

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<v Speaker 1>pop up in New York City, Uh and Barba's there,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as Lieutenant Declan Murphy aka Rollin's baby daddy

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh played by Donald and I honestly don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>we are in time here. I don't know if this

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<v Speaker 1>is when they have hooked up or what, but you

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:12.199
<v Speaker 1>know they're there together on screen. After thirty minutes, there

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 1>are eight hundred responses to this, like you know trap

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:19.160
<v Speaker 1>that they're setting. Liv is talking to Lucky the girl

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<v Speaker 1>and she's dropped the accent obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>She said this is a dirty job.

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<v Speaker 1>But I like getting these guys, and Barba's looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the map of the responses and he goes heavy in

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern Bloc China and the American South, and Finn goes

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<v Speaker 1>no comment.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, get they like to get political.

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<v Speaker 1>So so far they've gotten hits in other burrows, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're thirsty for a Manhattan purp and so far only

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<v Speaker 1>one is popped up. And he's got a screen name

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<v Speaker 1>flash and his IP address shows of course he works

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<v Speaker 1>for the city. There is not one civil servant in

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<v Speaker 1>the whole city of New York who's not a PERV

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 1>that is downloading child sex abuse images on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>So they roll up to the cubicle of Gordon mont

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<v Speaker 1>Leaf and it's Kevin from the Office, and wildly, I

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<v Speaker 1>have never known his real name.

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<v Speaker 3>I just looked it up. His name is Brian Baumgartner.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you know that? I feel like I I watched

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<v Speaker 3>The Office, but it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Angela Kinsey, I know the names of the

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<v Speaker 1>other people on the Office.

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<v Speaker 3>He's always just Kevin to me. I've never known his

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<v Speaker 3>real name.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a fucking judge on a last comic standing

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<v Speaker 1>when my husband was on it. Did not ever know

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<v Speaker 1>his real name, like he is my least favorite person

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<v Speaker 1>on the office. Also, like, I watched the Office pretty

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 1>religiously and he always drove me, Like I don't there's

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<v Speaker 1>something about him I don't like.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll be calling him Kevin from the Office the

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<v Speaker 3>whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>He thinks that they're there for payroll, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>do a big reveal.

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<v Speaker 3>Lucky is with them and.

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<v Speaker 1>She takes off her best baseball gap and she's like

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<v Speaker 1>remember me and does her Lucky voice, and Finn's like,

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<v Speaker 1>how about that stud saved you a trip to Bangkok

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:57.959
<v Speaker 1>and he obviously looks terrified. He's like fuck, and they

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<v Speaker 1>arrest him, and Amaro goes, let's go Flash, which feels

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>like a read because he's very unflash, Like, you know,

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 1>there's like nothing flash about this guy. So we go

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<v Speaker 1>to the So now we're at the credits and at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of act one, we're in cement room bars

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<v Speaker 1>and Kevin from the Office is giving the old standby

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<v Speaker 1>I was just chatting. We were just talking and they're

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 1>like about sex with a fourteen year old and he's like, no,

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:22.879
<v Speaker 1>I saw her. She is not fourteen, and they're like,

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter. You thought she was fourteen and He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm arrested for what I was thinking, And that is

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>a good question, like did he have actual Like I

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know, did he have material?

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 3>Did he have plans to meet her? Like who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>Amaro's behind the glass with Murphy and Benson being like,

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 1>let's just lock this guy up, and it's like I

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>did think you have to like show them showing up

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 1>to meet someone. It's like the whole premise of to

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 1>catch a predator. It's like you can't just bust them

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>based on their IP address. You have to have them

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 1>showing up with the Mike's hard lemonade and the condoms,

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, in order to get them. So I do

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>think it's a little weird. Tomorrow's like, let's just throw

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>him in jail. It's like, I don't know if we're there.

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's all very interesting and it's going to keep

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 2>going deeper and deeper in this episode.

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 3>But it is like.

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<v Speaker 2>We always talk about this was socking or it's like,

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 2>well when can we arrest someone? Right, and we'll get

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 2>into it with the real crime too, but it's like, yeah,

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 2>it's a really.

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 1>They do a good job of really getting you to

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>think about the situation, Yes, for sure. So Murphy's explaining,

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 1>he goes, look, this case needs to evolve, like we

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 1>need to use these little guppies to catch the big sharks,

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, like this guy will give us somebody bigger, hopefully.

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Amorrow's like grossed out at the idea of cutting deals

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 1>with pedophiles, and he's like giving Murphy a lot of attitude,

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 1>and then he walks out and lives like he's dealing

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>with some personal stuff right now, and it's like, yeah,

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 1>he hates his wife, and a few episodes ago he

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 1>blindly shot into a hallway and killed an unarmed black teen.

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Like have we ever seen Tomorrow happy one day in

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>his life? Like, I don't think we've ever seen a

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 1>happy day from.

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 3>Eve fucking Rollin. Yes, that a mad mood.

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 1>He was still in a badmin still pissy. It's like,

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 1>you're fucking the hottest woman probably on the squad. And

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the hell I was gonna say,

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 1>the hottest woman ever, But Laura Nanty's also very gorgeous,

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>so you know he's had many hot women.

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 3>He is very hot.

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Back in the room, Rollins is trying to get flashed

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>to give up more info, and he's like, ah, these.

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 3>Guys are sickos. Like I don't want to turn on them.

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 3>They'll kill me, they'll come after me.

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>And Finn, you know, does the thing we just talked

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>about last episode where it's like, yeah, well in prison,

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get raped, like you know, like as a pedophile,

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 1>people are not gonna be nice to you in prison.

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>And Rollins and Finn report to go back and talk

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>to live in Murphy and they're like, I don't know,

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 1>this guy doesn't seem like he has much.

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 3>Murphy goes, maybe he just needs a shoulder to cry on. Finn.

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 3>Now cut to.

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<v Speaker 1>Finn throwing Murphy in disguise into the holding cell.

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 3>This guy fucking loves going undercover.

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Murphy is like, oh, do you guys

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 1>need something that any uniformed crop could do.

0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 3>I'll do it. I'll be there.

0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 1>Like remember when he's in like the cablenit Irish fisherman sweater,

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 1>like soliciting sex workers, trying to get Ellie Porter.

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 3>I think like.

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>He's he's all over the place, uh, you know, trying

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 1>to be undercover.

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 3>So he's in there.

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 1>With like they greased his hair up. He's wearing literally

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>like child molestered glasses. Finn shoves him into the holding cell,

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>calling him Chomo loudly and being like, you two will

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 1>get along. So he tells Kevin from the office that

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>he got tricked by a girl named Lucky.

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, and this guy he's like, he's trying to

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 2>win an Emmy, the Emmy of the Squad, Like he

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 2>is so committed to this performance.

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Yes, like it's it's so funny. He's wearing molester glasses,

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>his hair is greasy, he's so method.

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:44.800
<v Speaker 3>I am like, I went, I went.

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 1>He went home after this idea and like practice right,

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>He's like, let me call my coach.

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 3>He got on. He got on a zoom with his

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 3>acting coach. Definitely. I mean he's crying. He's so hot.

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Why won't you do have we asked him? We got

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>to get him on the pod. We should try to

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>get him on. I watched Grounded for Life. I mean

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 1>he's also in Sons of Anarchy, which you know I'm

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 1>a huge fan.

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, no, I don't know that. Well I didn't know

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 3>he was in.

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I didn't know about Grounded for Life? Is

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 1>that a sickcom He was.

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 2>In yeah, it was kind of like married with like, yeah,

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 2>they were poor, maybe a little roseanny. I think it

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 2>was not a fox, but yeah, grounded for life and

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 2>there was a redheaded daughter.

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 3>We gotta get him, let's put him on the list.

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>But you know, the actor donal Logue is great and

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>also Declan Murphy is a great actor.

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 3>He's crying, he's going.

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>My life is over because he goes, I can't go

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:40.719
<v Speaker 1>back to prison.

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 3>You don't know what they do to us there.

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 1>And then the grand finale he pisses himself and it's

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 1>not like later he goes, yeah, I just had like

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 1>a bag of water in my pocket. Nope, they don't

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 1>ever bring it up that he just fucking pissed himself

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 1>for real. And Kevin from the office is like, dog,

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>you can't piss in here, and he's trying to get cops.

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 3>To help him. No one will even look at him.

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 1>So they've just locked him in a cage with a

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 1>fucking lieutenant with a passion for acting and his piss

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 1>and they're trying to get him to give up more info.

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that is what undercover cops are.

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like men that wanted to do theater their parents

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't let them, and now they're doing a hardcore undercover

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 2>method acting.

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah too at some and sometimes it's just to

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 1>save exotic animals. So cut to tomorrow, he's with Maria

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 1>and Zara. They're walking in the park. Zara wants ice

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 1>cream and Maria a fun killer, goes you can get

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 1>a lemon ice small like you're like, wow, okay, policings.

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Already weird, I know, and then Zara.

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Scurries off to let the unhappy couple chat and Maria's like, listen,

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I got a job offer in La. It's more than

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 1>both of us make. And Nick is like, you're gonna

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 1>take Zara away from me? And she's like no, I

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:57.719
<v Speaker 1>mean I was thinking maybe you could come too, Like

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>you're very chill, laid back by would be a great

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 1>match for California. And she's like, I see what this

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>job is doing to you, like it's killing you. I

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.360
<v Speaker 1>think you could get a fresh start, like lots of

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 1>options out there for detectives. And he's like, are you

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>asking me to move with you? And it's like you

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 1>do not like each other? Why why does this keep happening?

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Like you guys hate each other? And then she's like

0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:23.279
<v Speaker 1>let's just take it one step at a time. And

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 1>he's like, all right, let me think about it, and

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>then it like he's like, I gotta get back to work.

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>So back at the office, they're showing Barbara the mini

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 1>tablet that they've gotten from Kevin from the office, and

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 1>it's like a travel guide to the dark Net. He

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>gave it up in exchange for help, he claims. He's like,

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm just a voyeur. But there's guys on there that

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 1>go a lot further. And this is kind of where

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't really buy it. I don't really buy that

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>on the dark net, on the Internet, there are like

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 1>regular like sort of hobbyist pedophiles hanging out with like

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 1>people that are dark want to buy like organs, want

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>to like murder. Like I just don't think you wander

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 1>into those chat rooms, you know what I mean. I

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 1>think it's like you go where you are comfortable with

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 1>the content that's happening on the dark Web. I don't

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:11.359
<v Speaker 1>really think it's like I just wanted to like talk

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 1>to a fourteen year old girl about her bra and

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>then you're like suddenly these guys are saying they want

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:17.359
<v Speaker 1>to kill people, you know, Like I just don't get

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 1>to think that that's someone can feel free to write

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:21.399
<v Speaker 1>in if you're expert at the dark Web and let

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>me know. But it doesn't feel like it's like AOL

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 1>chat rooms where you can just like ding dong and

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>go into a different one. So he pointed them to

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:31.839
<v Speaker 1>this guy who goes by the screen name Erastes, and

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Barbara reads a post of his out loud, which is disturbing.

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 1>It's about him torturing and murdering a boy that he's

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 1>watching on a school playground, and Barba's like, okay, cool,

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:45.239
<v Speaker 1>this is horrifying, but it's online. It's fantasy. Like, there's

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of horrifying shit on the Internet. And Murphy's like, look,

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 1>we're giving you a heads up. We're not asking for

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 1>your blessing. And it's like wow, he's hungry for more

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 1>undercover work, so he's like, one more undercover meet. If

0:35:56.960 --> 0:36:01.360
<v Speaker 1>it's a fantasy, we walk away. If not live, asks Barba,

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>do you want to be the one who fucked this up?

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 1>So now Rollins and Murphy are dulled up play in

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:11.840
<v Speaker 1>house undercover as an art collecting couple. They've got Rollin's

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>hair all teased up with some height she's in an

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:17.399
<v Speaker 1>all white outfit and they're at this gallery checking out

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 1>photography okay, and it's you know, you can sort of

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:23.479
<v Speaker 1>see that it's of young people, but you can't really

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:26.399
<v Speaker 1>tell anything yet. A woman approaches them and she's like, oh,

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 1>this is my favorite piece as well. And they're like, oh,

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 1>are you a collector and she's like no. The photographer

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Simon Wilkes is my husband. Murphy immediately's like, oh man,

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm a huge fan of Can I meet him? She's like, oh, yeah,

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:41.239
<v Speaker 1>he's over there. And the actor playing Simon Wilkes is

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:46.919
<v Speaker 1>Josh Molina, and he is huge star of West Wing

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and Scandal fame like, he's a regular on both those shows.

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Those are both shows I've never watched.

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:53.439
<v Speaker 1>But I think if you've watched Scandal or West Wing,

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:55.799
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, yes, know this guy very well. He

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 1>must have a lot of nice properties because he's got

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 1>like hundreds of regular credits on his IMDb. Murphy leaves

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Rollins to spend their imaginary money on art, and he's like,

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 1>just get a price, babe, and then he introduces himself

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 1>to Simon as Howard Jeffries and he immediately starts like

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:18.839
<v Speaker 1>drooling over an adolescent boy in a photo and he goes, yeah,

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>flash wasn't wrong, and Simon's like wait what, and he's like,

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 1>he said, you might have some edgier work that would

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>appeal to me, like studies of a schoolyard. I think

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 1>that's like the name of the little poem that he

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 1>put on his.

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:34.799
<v Speaker 2>H But it's also easy, like if you're a peed

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 2>of like this is so I would if someone, I'd

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:38.439
<v Speaker 2>be like, what are you talking about?

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Buy?

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Bye, yeah, it' kind of any money he's rich, Like

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 2>what yeah, why would you risk every But I get like,

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 2>risk it all for your crimes, but to just loosely

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:50.760
<v Speaker 2>just chat with any old guy at your art gallery

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 2>who could easily be a cop. I mean it's not

0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 2>like he's the not cosucking who believes that anyone is

0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 2>into this art like it is family photos. And then

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 2>they show his wedding photo like that he's a wedding photographer.

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Like the two don't meet, Like if you're in a

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 2>gallery selling art, you are not doing wedding photography.

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:11.320
<v Speaker 3>And bar Metzvah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:16.479
<v Speaker 2>It's just all like they it's just the art is weird.

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 2>It's just kids on a beat. It's just it's weird.

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 2>It's weird, yeah.

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 1>It is, And it is like I get that they

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 1>have to do for this show, but it's like, if

0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:26.319
<v Speaker 1>this was real, you would they would just be If

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 1>this was in real life, they would just be following

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 1>this guy online for months trying to get him to

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 1>do something great or say something, rather than going to

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 1>his place of business and being like, hint, hint, I

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:40.360
<v Speaker 1>also love teen boys, you know, but alas this is television,

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Simon picks up what he's putting down. Murphy's like, let's

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 1>set a meet. He takes the bait. They agree to

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:49.640
<v Speaker 1>meet at a bar in an hour near a public school. Okay,

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 1>so at the bar now Murphy is working this guy.

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, I met Flash online. He told me

0:38:57.480 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 1>about the Schoolyard series. And it's like, again, why are

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Flash and Erastes even chilling if Slash is sewn not

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 1>into this kind of shit. So Simon talks about how,

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, the ancient Greek celebrated the beauty of the

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 1>young male body, unshaven and unspoiled, and Murphy's like, yeah,

0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's more than just appreciation for us guys, right,

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 1>And Simon's like, well, for me, it's fantasy, and Murphy goes, yeah,

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:26.239
<v Speaker 1>but what if it wasn't. And they moved to a

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 1>more discreete table, like they're at the bar. We can't

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:30.360
<v Speaker 1>have the bartender hearing us. They moved just to a

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:34.439
<v Speaker 1>table five feet away, and Murphy's like, look, i gotta

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:36.840
<v Speaker 1>tell you I'm loaded and I've got the money to

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:41.480
<v Speaker 1>make whatever you want happen. And Murphy's like, we should

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:43.760
<v Speaker 1>both turn off our cell phones as a side of trust.

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 1>So then they're like, where were we. Oh, yes, we

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 1>were talking about money and young boys, and Simon's like,

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and not just sex with them, right, like you with me.

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:55.800
<v Speaker 1>And he's holding like a small knife in his hands

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>suddenly that he's just like using, He's just touching with

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:00.360
<v Speaker 1>his fingers, like it's weird.

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 3>And then Simon goes, this is about commitment. Are you

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 3>willing to commit? And you know?

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:11.320
<v Speaker 1>So now they're playing the tape for Barbara and Barba's like, dude,

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 1>this is very close to entrapman, Like you're the one

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:16.359
<v Speaker 1>who brought up getting a boy, and Murphy's like, yeah,

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.399
<v Speaker 1>but he's the one who brought up getting the boy

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:19.360
<v Speaker 1>for more than sex.

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 3>So they've checked on, they've talked to the wife. The

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 3>wife loves his ass.

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:25.839
<v Speaker 1>Fin's like she's a sick oh too, this guy has

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:29.360
<v Speaker 1>no record, and Barba's like, look, we can't indict people

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 1>for imagining things, like show me something substantial and we'll

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:36.319
<v Speaker 1>have a different combo. But and Murphy's like, lawyers think

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 1>too much. I'm going to get this guy like he's fucked,

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 1>like we're gonna find him. So he tells the gang

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 1>go back to Gordon aka Kevin from the office. So

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 1>now I didn't realize this, but Kevin from the Office

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 1>is at Rikers.

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 3>What the charges I'm unclear.

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the charge is talking to somebody, yes,

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 1>soliciting a miner online, I don't know. So he's at Rikers.

0:40:57.880 --> 0:40:59.840
<v Speaker 1>He wants to He's like begging them, like get me

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:02.600
<v Speaker 1>in to solitary. Like he is wearing his orange jumpsuit

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and he does not enjoy prison life. Finn and Omarro

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:07.399
<v Speaker 1>are like, yeah, yeah, we'll help you, but we need

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 1>some more info on your boy. Erastes like did he

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 1>ever talk about hurting boys? And Kevin's like, I just

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 1>like to watch. I am not into this shit. I

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>don't fuck with that. And he's like a few months back,

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 1>there was this live stream from Estonia and he and

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:25.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like, were you on the live stream to Estonia?

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:26.839
<v Speaker 3>You paid to be on that?

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Like, you don't just stumble on a live stream from Estonia.

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:32.560
<v Speaker 1>That's why I don't get me in. And he's probably lying,

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 1>but still it's like he says he kept sending messages

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 1>to the Master asking him to hurt the boy, make

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 1>him bleed, and Kevin's like, so I turned it off

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 1>because I don't.

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 3>Even know how I got there.

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 1>And later he says Erastes Bragg that he'd watched the

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:51.799
<v Speaker 1>boy die on this live stream. So then Erasi said

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:54.439
<v Speaker 1>to Kevin, we would find we should find a boy

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 1>that nobody would miss. Again, Erasti's is just like, hi, flash,

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 1>my best friend that's not into anything I'm into. Here's

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 1>everything I'm thinking in my mind, Like what do you think?

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:06.799
<v Speaker 1>And Kevin's just like, I don't want to do that.

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 1>And then they just keep being friends online. I don't

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>get it. Well, they're probably starves for connection, you know, right,

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Really he can't wait to talk to someone about a

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:19.359
<v Speaker 1>pedophile I know, Diya rasses could find plenty of other

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 1>people in the dark web who want to hurt people,

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:23.840
<v Speaker 1>like or watch a kid like bleed or whatever, you know,

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:28.840
<v Speaker 1>like it's so it's also gross, but so we should

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:31.759
<v Speaker 1>find a boy no one will miss done done that's like,

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, that to them is like signaling that.

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:36.960
<v Speaker 3>He's ready to act. So back at the.

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Squad, they're filling in the rest of the gang in

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 1>about damage groups, which are online groups where people take

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 1>live requests to torture young kids.

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 3>I googled this term and it's the only.

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Thing it is is about dungeons and dragons, So I'm

0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 1>praying it's not a real thing, and if it is,

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's called damage groups anyway, Finn says,

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 1>the kids with the dark skin in these damage groups

0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 1>get it worse because the bruises don't show, which is

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 1>so sick. They're like, we gave all the info to Interpol,

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:11.680
<v Speaker 1>and Murphy's like, it's not gonna fucking do anything, like

0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>go let's go back to Gordon's accounts. So then Murphy

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 1>asks Finn, why don't you hang back? The gang all

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 1>takes off, including live to like go work on more,

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 1>checking out more of Gordon, this guy who apparently does

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:28.239
<v Speaker 1>barely anything, and Murphy's like, hang back, Finn, and he's like,

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:29.960
<v Speaker 1>oh man, this shit is so horrific.

0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:31.319
<v Speaker 3>How long have you been dealing with this?

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, well, I've been on the show since

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:35.960
<v Speaker 1>season two, so fourteen years before that, I was in

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 1>narcotics for eight years. And he goes and that was worse.

0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:41.280
<v Speaker 1>He's like, there's so much corruption in the drug world.

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:44.080
<v Speaker 1>In SVU, it's black and white. You touch women, your kids,

0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:47.720
<v Speaker 1>your garbage. And Finn's like, I want this Simon Wilks

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 1>guy in a cage, And Murphy's like, how about tonight,

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 1>And Finn's like, name the time and place. So these

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:57.319
<v Speaker 1>two are gonna go rogue. I guess outside they're leaving

0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:00.319
<v Speaker 1>the precinct. Rolins bounces to hit up a gambler's anonymous meeting,

0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:02.240
<v Speaker 1>and Live finally has a chance to talk to Tomorrow

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 1>about his miserable life and he tells her about the

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 1>job offer and Maria suggesting that he goes with and

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Live is like, are you thinking of going? And he's like,

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 1>my life is here, Like I don't want to fight her,

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 1>but she's not taking my kid away from me. I mean,

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:15.880
<v Speaker 1>let's not forget his mother is in New York, his

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:20.759
<v Speaker 1>newly found son is in New York, and so he's like,

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not letting her take Zara. And then Live looks torn,

0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 1>And it's crazy because the look on Liv's face brought

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 1>me back to a place that I was in in

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and like fourteen or fifteen, when I was

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>watching these episodes Live, I really thought her and Tomorrow

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 1>had a thing. I thought they were going to get together,

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>and they honestly aren't. They aren't, And I think part

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:42.400
<v Speaker 1>of me was just like her and Stabler, Her and Stablers.

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 1>So whoever fills the stable role, it's going to be

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:46.880
<v Speaker 1>like another romance. And I just like plugged him into that.

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 1>And like, Liv looks torn in this photo, and I'm like,

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 1>she's sad because she's in love with him, but I

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:54.360
<v Speaker 1>think she probably just doesn't want to lose her partner,

0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 1>lose a good detective, lose a friend. But in my mind,

0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:00.359
<v Speaker 1>I thought she was horny for him, and maybe she was,

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:02.720
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think it's now that I'm watching back twelve,

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 1>now that I've seen every episode twelve times, I don't

0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:05.320
<v Speaker 1>get that feeling.

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:07.719
<v Speaker 2>As much, no, but also like, yeah, I'm sure of

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 2>like everyone wants to fuck Amorrow.

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, yes, It's not like he's some weird, quirky choice,

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:18.080
<v Speaker 3>It's just like that's.

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 1>A man and were and he's simply damaged, which is

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:26.359
<v Speaker 1>what Live has chosen to get. A violent man with damage, yes,

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:30.319
<v Speaker 1>who cannot control himself or his badge and his gun.

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh lie, and break the I mean, god damn it.

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm like so pissed for Live right now, Like, I yeah,

0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why she can't just date somebody who

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 1>with generational wealth anyway. So suddenly we've got Simon, Wilks

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 1>and Murphy undercover meeting with an also undercover Finn, who's

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:58.320
<v Speaker 1>offering them anything they need, drugs, women, anything but guns.

0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Seems like a weird boundary, that's what That's what he's saying.

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Murphy says, how about boys, and Simon's like, yeah, like

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:08.320
<v Speaker 1>younger than teens, Like yeah, just so you know, I

0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:09.879
<v Speaker 1>don't want like a fourteen year old. I don't want

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:13.759
<v Speaker 1>like an old, grosspost pubescent teen. I want younger, and

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Finn just chuckles and goes, no grass on the infield.

0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:18.680
<v Speaker 3>Ugh uh.

0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:22.239
<v Speaker 1>And then Wilkes straight up goes someone no one will

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 1>come looking for. So Finn undercover obviously is like, yeah,

0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:29.880
<v Speaker 1>El Salvador, Mexico. It's doable, but it's gonna be forty

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 1>k all in and Murphy's like, well, we need to

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:35.759
<v Speaker 1>see the kid first, and then Simon's like, no way, wait, wait,

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:37.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't have that kind of cash. And it's like,

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 1>first of all, I thought you were a big photographer

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 1>with like an art gallery, and like you have this

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:42.880
<v Speaker 1>you know whatever.

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:45.279
<v Speaker 3>I thought you were this big photographer.

0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Second of all, this guy Murphy hears telling you he's

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:49.759
<v Speaker 1>going to bankroll the whole thing. Just get the kid

0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:53.319
<v Speaker 1>if that's what you want, and he's like undercover Finn

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:55.000
<v Speaker 1>is like I'm out of here. This guy's got no

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 1>skin in the game. And then Simon goes, no, I

0:46:57.200 --> 0:46:59.720
<v Speaker 1>can do better. I've got a soundproof hitten.

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 3>No way is this better. In no way is this better.

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:04.239
<v Speaker 3>In no way is better. This opens you up to

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:06.520
<v Speaker 3>so much more of a chance of getting caught.

0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 1>It's so crazy, like you would think that in the

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 1>steps of acceleration of an absolute psychopath like this guy is,

0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 1>you'd be like, oh great, I'm gonna let this rich guy,

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 1>buy me a kid and then I'll kill it and

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:22.279
<v Speaker 1>will be good, you know. And then he's like, no, no, no, no,

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:25.279
<v Speaker 1>I want to do like the Tyson versus Paul of

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.719
<v Speaker 1>murdering children, Like what are you talking about? So he's like,

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 1>he goes, I have a soundproof hidden venue, and Finn's like,

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:34.279
<v Speaker 1>and what does that do for me?

0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:37.239
<v Speaker 3>And he goes live stream it. People will pay.

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:40.520
<v Speaker 1>So now suddenly we're gonna be live streaming the murder

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 1>of this kid that we haven't even procured yet. So

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:46.520
<v Speaker 1>now they're at Simon's photography studio and Finn.

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:49.799
<v Speaker 2>Is looking why would he get into this, like like

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's crazy crazy. Suddenly you're streaming like there's no way. Yeah,

0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:00.319
<v Speaker 1>someone in a criminal enterprise would add that to it.

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:02.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean because the guns where you're like, why does

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:04.920
<v Speaker 1>it matter? It's like, I bet it's time. I bet

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:05.759
<v Speaker 1>it's prison time.

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:09.760
<v Speaker 2>I bet like guns are just, unfortunately that's true, worse

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 2>than women are trafficking or trafficking or drugs. I guess,

0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:18.200
<v Speaker 2>like guns might just have a heavier sentence or not

0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:20.719
<v Speaker 2>be worth it, or fingerprints maybe, like that's.

0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 1>Scandal that we covered for sure, there's all kind they're

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 1>always after guns.

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:33.960
<v Speaker 2>No, sometimes I say things out and about and yeah,

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:38.279
<v Speaker 2>yeah in terms of the darkness and the depth that

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 2>we go into certain things is like insane. But sometimes

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:43.520
<v Speaker 2>I do feel like I don't actually know these things,

0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:45.239
<v Speaker 2>like I've never been to law school, but I will

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:47.960
<v Speaker 2>act like I have. Like when I'm out and about,

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:50.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this is my profession actually, and it's like

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 2>I retain no information.

0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 1>But I know stands for Universe University, so that is

0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:01.560
<v Speaker 1>where we went, both of us. We were maledictorians. And

0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 1>that's just that. If you want to show me some law,

0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:06.960
<v Speaker 1>you can show me as many law briefs as you want.

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:09.239
<v Speaker 1>We've already said we don't understand them, we can't read them.

0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Now I am gonna read the Luigi FBI. Yes, like

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:15.600
<v Speaker 2>that is the all I have for myself, and I

0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:18.799
<v Speaker 2>want to do that. Yeah, because it seemed like a

0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 2>woman that I found a video was just like all

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 2>this stuff doesn't make sense, so I want to get

0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 2>in there.

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love experts.

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:28.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm more likely to watch a video of like a

0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:30.080
<v Speaker 1>long YouTube of someone explaining it to me because I

0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:30.680
<v Speaker 1>don't feel like it.

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:31.600
<v Speaker 3>But we don't know where.

0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 1>These people are. That's what I realize. I'm listening to

0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:37.080
<v Speaker 1>these people and I'm like, who are you? You could yeah,

0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:39.760
<v Speaker 1>you can be a hoarder, you could hit your kids.

0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:40.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't know you.

0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:44.239
<v Speaker 2>I know you are bad, like maybe you're a bitch,

0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:47.160
<v Speaker 2>cheer mother in law, Like I don't fucking know who

0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:49.799
<v Speaker 2>you are, but you are telling people how to raise

0:49:49.840 --> 0:49:52.520
<v Speaker 2>their family, and people are listening like this is the

0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:55.479
<v Speaker 2>Jenny McCarthy, Like everyone on her phone is a Jenny

0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:57.479
<v Speaker 2>McCarthy spewing their shit.

0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they don't have anything, none of us. Like

0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:02.840
<v Speaker 1>it's a mess.

0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:05.680
<v Speaker 2>It's a mess I've been because now the check book,

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:07.719
<v Speaker 2>the check mark doesn't matter anymore either.

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:08.799
<v Speaker 3>I can buy that too.

0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:11.319
<v Speaker 2>So it's like there's also it's not like, oh this

0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:14.000
<v Speaker 2>is a professor. It's like I'm sure he raped a student,

0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Like I.

0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Just stop buy it. It's I've been seeing so much

0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:23.399
<v Speaker 1>of that, especially with health stuff like you can't eat,

0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:24.560
<v Speaker 1>you can't eat this die.

0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:26.040
<v Speaker 3>This die is banned in Europe.

0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:29.160
<v Speaker 1>And then it's like they're like, I'm a nutritionist, and

0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:32.080
<v Speaker 1>then another nutritionist who I trust more is like that's

0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:34.719
<v Speaker 1>all lies, Like here's the examples and I'm like, I

0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:37.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know which one of you to believe. So it's crazy. No,

0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:39.359
<v Speaker 1>someone will be like that, dumb bitch.

0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:42.000
<v Speaker 2>And I'm a real there's some plastic surgeons I follow,

0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:45.040
<v Speaker 2>but like there's before and aff like they they look legit,

0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:50.680
<v Speaker 2>like the plastic surgeons. I see the incisions, like I'm in.

0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:54.000
<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't be able to get those photos without being

0:50:54.120 --> 0:50:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, we're.

0:50:54.760 --> 0:50:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Not who fucks. So I really want to read this

0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:03.799
<v Speaker 1>fb I report. But yeah, the U for US views University.

0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:06.080
<v Speaker 3>We gotta get it. We gotta get Okay, maybe I'll

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:09.440
<v Speaker 3>attempt the report as well. We'll see. But now we

0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:10.799
<v Speaker 3>do enough. We do enough.

0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:15.040
<v Speaker 2>But I'm pissed about the Washington Post because it was

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:15.720
<v Speaker 2>a good source.

0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:17.280
<v Speaker 3>But I'm not renewing. I'm not renewing.

0:51:17.560 --> 0:51:21.840
<v Speaker 1>No, they are going down there fucking that. Shit's crazy,

0:51:22.000 --> 0:51:25.479
<v Speaker 1>but it all is fair. It's all like fuck, there's

0:51:25.520 --> 0:51:28.239
<v Speaker 1>no trust in the media. There's no trust in the media.

0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:30.839
<v Speaker 1>But that's what they wanted to do. They like, it's

0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:34.520
<v Speaker 1>just like it's great, Okay, go back to go back

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:37.000
<v Speaker 1>to this fun episode about murdering little boys in a

0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:40.000
<v Speaker 1>torture room. I don't want to think about the realities

0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:44.719
<v Speaker 1>of our leadership. Get this deal a little lighter than

0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>the you know, dissolution of our country's media and journalism

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:51.440
<v Speaker 1>is what's happening at Simon's photography studio, and it is,

0:51:51.480 --> 0:51:55.040
<v Speaker 1>but also this like this like torture Chamber is millions

0:51:55.080 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 1>for sure, and your wife looks like a dumb bitch.

0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Your wife is zannied out. She's like a dumb bitch.

0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:03.720
<v Speaker 2>She'll do whatever you say.

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:04.760
<v Speaker 3>For some reason.

0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:09.040
<v Speaker 2>This woman is wrapped around this little beady man for sure.

0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:13.720
<v Speaker 2>So this isn't a hot dude or charming or cool.

0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:17.240
<v Speaker 2>And the art's bad, Like it's really a mystery. It's

0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:19.920
<v Speaker 2>hard to it's hard to understand. But we find out

0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:22.160
<v Speaker 2>later that it's not the first woman that's falling for it. Okay,

0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:26.000
<v Speaker 2>so we're at Simon's photography studio. Finn's looking at the

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:28.280
<v Speaker 2>pictures on the wall and he goes, not my style,

0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:32.400
<v Speaker 2>and then Simon goes very Samantha Jones, yes, And then

0:52:32.480 --> 0:52:34.200
<v Speaker 2>Simon goes his wife likes him.

0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:35.080
<v Speaker 3>She bought a couple.

0:52:35.440 --> 0:52:38.000
<v Speaker 1>And I just love the idea that the NYPD has,

0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Like what an art budget for people that are going undercover?

0:52:40.840 --> 0:52:43.879
<v Speaker 1>Like they love physically bought some of the art as

0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:46.040
<v Speaker 1>a fake couple in their sting, Like.

0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:50.320
<v Speaker 2>That's where the five point eight billion dollar budgets going.

0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:53.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for their acting passions.

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Yes, they roins, probably Rolin's probably wearing designer. I mean

0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:00.440
<v Speaker 1>they're like, take the tags off, girl. This is all

0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:01.400
<v Speaker 1>going on the NYPD.

0:53:02.120 --> 0:53:03.560
<v Speaker 3>No, every whenever they.

0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Go undercover, it is it is like, you do need

0:53:08.000 --> 0:53:09.720
<v Speaker 2>to have an ID, you do need to have framed

0:53:09.760 --> 0:53:12.880
<v Speaker 2>photos like you do, or your person can die. So

0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:16.440
<v Speaker 2>like I do understand that, and I am curious at

0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:17.600
<v Speaker 2>the reality.

0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Of that for sure, But I bet they could have said,

0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:22.320
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take these two. I'll call my assistant to

0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:24.600
<v Speaker 1>set it up. You don't actually have to like buy

0:53:24.680 --> 0:53:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the artwork of this guy that you're like fucking stinging.

0:53:27.920 --> 0:53:28.319
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:53:28.400 --> 0:53:32.600
<v Speaker 1>That's just so funny to me. So they take he

0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:36.600
<v Speaker 1>takes them back to this like room. He moves like

0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:39.800
<v Speaker 1>a shelf unit out of the way to a secret

0:53:39.960 --> 0:53:43.640
<v Speaker 1>entryway and he goes, I've soundproofed everything. No one can

0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:47.000
<v Speaker 1>hear the screams, and then he holds up a little

0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:50.719
<v Speaker 1>kid's PJ top and like wiggles it. When he says no,

0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:53.399
<v Speaker 1>one can hear the screams, and it's just a very

0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:56.399
<v Speaker 1>disturbing touch by the props department that he just that's

0:53:56.400 --> 0:53:58.319
<v Speaker 1>not in the room, that's outside of the room, just

0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:00.479
<v Speaker 1>a little pair of little boys JS.

0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:03.879
<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't love that. So in the secret room,

0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:05.440
<v Speaker 3>it's I disagree.

0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:09.600
<v Speaker 1>You're like, you're like, actually throws a great touch. I

0:54:09.640 --> 0:54:12.000
<v Speaker 1>mean it is a good touch for absolutely creeping me out,

0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:15.040
<v Speaker 1>you know. Like so in the secret room, it's a

0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:17.960
<v Speaker 1>full nightmare. It's state of the art surgical equipment. It

0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:19.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of reminds me there's a room like this and

0:54:19.719 --> 0:54:21.279
<v Speaker 1>the girl with the dragon tattoo. I don't know if

0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:23.759
<v Speaker 1>you've seen that, but like the guy has a room

0:54:23.800 --> 0:54:27.320
<v Speaker 1>like this where it's like bright fluorescent lights, surgical tables, saws,

0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:31.160
<v Speaker 1>drains in the floor for blood. Like this is a

0:54:31.239 --> 0:54:34.960
<v Speaker 1>torture chamber, like of the highest regals of your night

0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:36.040
<v Speaker 1>nurse of your nightmare.

0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:41.399
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know what's like turning on torture devices

0:54:41.480 --> 0:54:44.080
<v Speaker 2>and it is like it's it reminds me of the

0:54:44.239 --> 0:54:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Erica Christiansen as he's just gonna ask you sat scary.

0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:50.920
<v Speaker 2>It's scary. I don't want to be tortured in someone's

0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:53.640
<v Speaker 2>torture chamber. It haunts me. It is a big fear,

0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:55.799
<v Speaker 2>and I think about it all the time. But I

0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 2>don't know if I've mentioned this on this podcast, but

0:54:57.600 --> 0:54:59.400
<v Speaker 2>like me, and I'm sure I haven't repeat things all

0:54:59.400 --> 0:55:01.239
<v Speaker 2>the time. But like me and a group, this was

0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:04.200
<v Speaker 2>a long time ago, in my twenties, I guess that's

0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:10.960
<v Speaker 2>not that long ago. Listen, we all did DMT, me

0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:13.320
<v Speaker 2>and my group of friends, and we all took turns,

0:55:13.320 --> 0:55:14.960
<v Speaker 2>and we each went one at a time, and all

0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:18.160
<v Speaker 2>of us have, like, you know, a good time. And

0:55:19.320 --> 0:55:23.280
<v Speaker 2>my one friend he is stressed and he's he starts

0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:25.719
<v Speaker 2>smoking cigarettes and his baths about the window, right like

0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:27.719
<v Speaker 2>he's like stressed out, but he doesn't want to fuck

0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:29.799
<v Speaker 2>with our highs, so like we don't actually know what's

0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:32.120
<v Speaker 2>going on. And then after we all get a turn

0:55:32.160 --> 0:55:33.160
<v Speaker 2>and have our time, he goes.

0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:34.720
<v Speaker 3>That was the worst thing of my life.

0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I was being like strapped to gurney

0:55:39.960 --> 0:55:42.120
<v Speaker 1>being tortured, and there was nothing I could do about it.

0:55:43.480 --> 0:55:46.000
<v Speaker 3>WHOA, I know who you're talking about, because you've told

0:55:46.080 --> 0:55:46.319
<v Speaker 3>me this.

0:55:46.320 --> 0:55:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've said it on the podcast,

0:55:47.840 --> 0:55:51.200
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it is oh so scary.

0:55:51.400 --> 0:55:53.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's what I think when we talk about

0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:53.680
<v Speaker 3>some of these crimes.

0:55:53.680 --> 0:55:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, I truly like if I hit my

0:55:57.239 --> 0:56:00.799
<v Speaker 2>thigh on any corner at my house, I'm like, oh.

0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:02.560
<v Speaker 3>I know, I don't.

0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I know. I would like if I was in a

0:56:05.040 --> 0:56:06.879
<v Speaker 1>d like, you're gonna have to just do this quick.

0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:09.000
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to I can't. That's the whole point.

0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I think I have to act like I like it.

0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:12.560
<v Speaker 1>That's like all I could do. I think I'd have

0:56:12.600 --> 0:56:15.560
<v Speaker 1>to act like I like it, I know, but then

0:56:15.600 --> 0:56:17.479
<v Speaker 1>I would get worse, Like I don't know what I would.

0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I would just like, yeah, I'm trying to decide, like

0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:24.200
<v Speaker 1>what's freakier. Like the signature one is so freaky, but

0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:26.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like in the woods, and they make it extremely

0:56:26.719 --> 0:56:29.600
<v Speaker 1>dirty and like nasty. It's like, no, it wasn't in

0:56:29.600 --> 0:56:29.959
<v Speaker 1>the woods.

0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:31.760
<v Speaker 2>The crime scene was in the woods, but the torture

0:56:31.840 --> 0:56:33.920
<v Speaker 2>chamber was in like storage boxes.

0:56:34.160 --> 0:56:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, in story it was in a storage unit place. Yeah,

0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and it was dirty and gross, right.

0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:41.600
<v Speaker 3>And like I don't remember that. This one is like

0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:45.719
<v Speaker 3>so clinical and procedural.

0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:48.560
<v Speaker 1>It's like they're equally freaky in different ways to me,

0:56:48.680 --> 0:56:52.319
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, torture rooms obviously not a top not a

0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:52.799
<v Speaker 1>great thing.

0:56:53.640 --> 0:56:55.680
<v Speaker 2>No, And then the only thing worse I can think

0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:58.480
<v Speaker 2>of is that submarine case, like being about like being

0:56:58.560 --> 0:57:01.600
<v Speaker 2>tortured in a submarine. You know, there's no way out, Like,

0:57:02.280 --> 0:57:05.239
<v Speaker 2>I just can't believe people go through this.

0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 1>It's really hard to wrap your brain around it.

0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:13.920
<v Speaker 3>It's so horrific, and we don't like deal with the

0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:14.840
<v Speaker 3>root issue.

0:57:15.719 --> 0:57:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and actually which is men, yes, yes, well,

0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:26.880
<v Speaker 1>And a couple of weeks ago, I mentioned this movie

0:57:26.960 --> 0:57:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Red Rooms that I watched over the holiday break, and

0:57:32.480 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Speaker 1>this is very similar to what happens in that movie.

0:57:35.120 --> 0:57:39.120
<v Speaker 1>It's like the serial killer tortures people online for a

0:57:39.160 --> 0:57:41.520
<v Speaker 1>live stream and you don't see any of it, you

0:57:41.720 --> 0:57:47.320
<v Speaker 1>just hear it, and the sound design is terrifying. So

0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:52.760
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, there's obviously people are making media

0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:55.200
<v Speaker 1>about this kind of thing. It's obviously something people fucking

0:57:55.240 --> 0:58:01.200
<v Speaker 1>think about. But it's so gross. And this guy Simon

0:58:01.520 --> 0:58:04.520
<v Speaker 1>is looking so horny in this torture room and he goes,

0:58:04.600 --> 0:58:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the boys I bring in here are henceforth never the same.

0:58:08.320 --> 0:58:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Then he picks up a bone saw and he goes

0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:13.880
<v Speaker 1>you want skin in the game. Let's peel it off

0:58:13.880 --> 0:58:16.840
<v Speaker 1>that boy as a reference to what Finn said earlier,

0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and he starts buzzing the saw and it's really just

0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:24.680
<v Speaker 1>like so scary, like it's it's terrifying. So top of

0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:28.600
<v Speaker 1>act three, the cops have He did not get very far.

0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:31.920
<v Speaker 1>The cops are in the court torture room. They're searching it.

0:58:32.720 --> 0:58:37.480
<v Speaker 1>They're going through every inch. Again, I would have said, great,

0:58:37.640 --> 0:58:41.080
<v Speaker 1>let's go through with this, let's get this, let's find

0:58:41.160 --> 0:58:44.520
<v Speaker 1>a boy, or let's find let's let's like lure him

0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:47.479
<v Speaker 1>more so that we can actually get him. Right, they

0:58:47.520 --> 0:58:50.000
<v Speaker 1>bring him. They figure they've got him because they found

0:58:50.000 --> 0:58:53.280
<v Speaker 1>this torture room. The cops are searching every inch. Barba's there.

0:58:53.560 --> 0:58:56.120
<v Speaker 1>There is a window that looks onto a playground, just

0:58:56.160 --> 0:58:58.320
<v Speaker 1>like what he talked about in his creepy poem about

0:58:58.360 --> 0:59:01.880
<v Speaker 1>torturing kids. Rollins is kind of incredulous that any crime

0:59:01.920 --> 0:59:04.520
<v Speaker 1>has been committed there. She's like it's pristine, Like, what

0:59:04.560 --> 0:59:06.400
<v Speaker 1>do you think he does with the bodies? Like once

0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:09.800
<v Speaker 1>he gets them here, and Murphy's like check the drains

0:59:09.800 --> 0:59:13.400
<v Speaker 1>for chemicals, a bone fragment, any physical evidence. And then

0:59:13.480 --> 0:59:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Finn rolls up with these photos that he found in

0:59:15.600 --> 0:59:18.160
<v Speaker 1>a wall, and they don't show them to us, but

0:59:18.480 --> 0:59:21.840
<v Speaker 1>they're clearly nasty. And now in cement room, bars Live

0:59:21.880 --> 0:59:25.040
<v Speaker 1>and Rowlands are with us Simon and he's insisting this

0:59:25.120 --> 0:59:27.760
<v Speaker 1>is all fantasy, nothing happened, and Lives like, well, we

0:59:27.880 --> 0:59:30.000
<v Speaker 1>found the photos of you torturing boys in that room

0:59:30.000 --> 0:59:33.800
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, oh no, those are photoshopped. He also

0:59:33.880 --> 0:59:36.840
<v Speaker 1>claims that the whole deal to buy a boy who

0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:38.680
<v Speaker 1>no one would miss was a game. He's like, I

0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:40.960
<v Speaker 1>thought we all thought that was a game. And Rollins

0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:43.280
<v Speaker 1>is trying to play good cop. And because Benson is

0:59:43.320 --> 0:59:46.400
<v Speaker 1>going in like really hard and again, this is her

0:59:46.440 --> 0:59:47.480
<v Speaker 1>William Lewis season.

0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:50.120
<v Speaker 3>We got to give her some slack too, I know.

0:59:50.200 --> 0:59:52.960
<v Speaker 2>But they're all so rude about bringing it up, like

0:59:53.080 --> 0:59:55.440
<v Speaker 2>not to bring up the Beverly Hills Housewives, but it's

0:59:55.480 --> 0:59:59.439
<v Speaker 2>like you're weaponizing her experience every time. I mean, you'll

0:59:59.440 --> 1:00:01.680
<v Speaker 2>get to it, but they always are like, are you

1:00:01.680 --> 1:00:03.640
<v Speaker 2>sure your head's in the game. Are you thinking about

1:00:03.680 --> 1:00:05.440
<v Speaker 2>the time you were tortured and kidnapped?

1:00:05.560 --> 1:00:09.240
<v Speaker 3>You know? It's so rude. I hate that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:00:09.680 --> 1:00:13.520
<v Speaker 1>So but Benson's going in hard on the guy, and

1:00:13.600 --> 1:00:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Murphy pulls her out and Live his pissed. She's like,

1:00:16.000 --> 1:00:18.120
<v Speaker 1>i've been here fifteen minutes. You've been here fifteen seconds,

1:00:18.120 --> 1:00:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Like you're pulling me out of an interrogation, like no,

1:00:20.680 --> 1:00:22.680
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, well, you're just yelling at him. You're

1:00:22.680 --> 1:00:25.480
<v Speaker 1>supposed to align yourself with him, get him on your side,

1:00:25.800 --> 1:00:27.880
<v Speaker 1>and then he brings up William Lewis like exactly what

1:00:27.920 --> 1:00:30.280
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, Like is this you getting your anger out

1:00:30.280 --> 1:00:33.680
<v Speaker 1>on William Lewis. It's like, fuck off, dude, and Lives

1:00:33.680 --> 1:00:35.520
<v Speaker 1>like I got the message, and she's like I also

1:00:35.560 --> 1:00:37.439
<v Speaker 1>have a therapist, so you can just fuck right off

1:00:37.720 --> 1:00:40.120
<v Speaker 1>and she leaves and then Murphy's like tomorrow, you get

1:00:40.160 --> 1:00:42.560
<v Speaker 1>in there. You align yourself with Simon and Amarro's like

1:00:42.640 --> 1:00:45.480
<v Speaker 1>ew with this guy and he does not have a choice.

1:00:46.040 --> 1:00:49.000
<v Speaker 1>So Amaro goes in and is like, oh so sorry

1:00:49.080 --> 1:00:51.919
<v Speaker 1>about Benson. You okay, booboo, Like he's like really being

1:00:52.000 --> 1:00:54.560
<v Speaker 1>so nice to him. It's like over the top, and

1:00:54.600 --> 1:00:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Simon is like, I'm an artist. This is art. Art

1:00:57.600 --> 1:01:00.840
<v Speaker 1>is supposed to be shocking and provoke. It's digital trump

1:01:00.960 --> 1:01:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Lloy and Omarrow's like I get it. I see so

1:01:04.720 --> 1:01:06.800
<v Speaker 1>much horrible shit in my job. When I get home,

1:01:07.160 --> 1:01:10.240
<v Speaker 1>sometimes I watch some videos as a release and it's like,

1:01:10.280 --> 1:01:12.920
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't say what's in the videos whatever, but he's implying.

1:01:12.960 --> 1:01:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess that they're He watches fucking child sex abuse

1:01:17.000 --> 1:01:21.240
<v Speaker 1>images for a release and Simon's like, exactly, and then

1:01:21.520 --> 1:01:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Morolins is like, but what about the boy And he's like,

1:01:24.160 --> 1:01:25.040
<v Speaker 1>there was no boy.

1:01:25.080 --> 1:01:26.120
<v Speaker 3>I never paid any money.

1:01:26.120 --> 1:01:29.360
<v Speaker 1>And they're like, and the fully outfitted torture room, and

1:01:29.360 --> 1:01:32.560
<v Speaker 1>he goes, that's my meditation room. I'm the only one

1:01:32.600 --> 1:01:34.800
<v Speaker 1>who's been in it. You won't find anything in there.

1:01:35.360 --> 1:01:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Then in Busts, my big fact Greek weddings start, they also.

1:01:40.120 --> 1:01:41.760
<v Speaker 2>But they also don't even have jigs in there, so

1:01:41.800 --> 1:01:44.160
<v Speaker 2>he's not even like masturbating in there, like he's such

1:01:44.200 --> 1:01:44.920
<v Speaker 2>a little weirdo.

1:01:45.680 --> 1:01:48.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, they they do find DNA in there, so they might.

1:01:48.680 --> 1:01:51.120
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was just fingerprints, Oh it was it

1:01:51.160 --> 1:01:51.840
<v Speaker 2>was the sperm.

1:01:52.240 --> 1:01:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I think they said it was his DNA, and I

1:01:54.080 --> 1:01:56.080
<v Speaker 1>assumed it was jizz, but I'm not okay.

1:01:56.280 --> 1:01:58.280
<v Speaker 3>It could be sweat, it could be anything. Who knows.

1:01:58.800 --> 1:02:02.000
<v Speaker 3>But some of our Dallas is there. We've seen her before.

1:02:02.080 --> 1:02:06.919
<v Speaker 1>She's defense attorney Menona Ephron, and Simon's wife hired her,

1:02:07.000 --> 1:02:08.160
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, get out of here.

1:02:08.160 --> 1:02:09.800
<v Speaker 3>I want the room so I can speak to my client.

1:02:09.880 --> 1:02:11.840
<v Speaker 1>So Amar and Rawlins come out, and Amara is like

1:02:12.240 --> 1:02:14.520
<v Speaker 1>so sickened by what he just had to say to

1:02:14.560 --> 1:02:17.200
<v Speaker 1>get to this guy, and he's like, don't forget. I

1:02:17.240 --> 1:02:19.280
<v Speaker 1>have two kids, including a ten year old son that

1:02:19.320 --> 1:02:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I just found out about. So now at arraignment, Simon

1:02:23.080 --> 1:02:26.480
<v Speaker 1>pleads not guilty, and Barba says, the charges against him

1:02:26.480 --> 1:02:28.840
<v Speaker 1>are especially heinous and I don't know if there's like

1:02:28.880 --> 1:02:31.200
<v Speaker 1>another time where I've heard them say especially heinous on

1:02:31.240 --> 1:02:34.240
<v Speaker 1>the show, so I feel like this is an important milestone.

1:02:34.480 --> 1:02:37.880
<v Speaker 1>And he explains all of the charges and Monona counters

1:02:37.920 --> 1:02:40.520
<v Speaker 1>and is like he's an artist with an active imagination.

1:02:40.640 --> 1:02:44.600
<v Speaker 1>There is no forensic evidence of criminal behavior. Barbara makes

1:02:44.680 --> 1:02:47.800
<v Speaker 1>a interesting comparison. He goes a grenade with a pinpull

1:02:48.240 --> 1:02:50.320
<v Speaker 1>hasn't blown up yet, but it's still a danger to

1:02:50.320 --> 1:02:52.479
<v Speaker 1>everyone around it, and the judge is like, I gotta

1:02:52.520 --> 1:02:53.360
<v Speaker 1>go with you on that one.

1:02:53.400 --> 1:02:53.600
<v Speaker 3>Dog.

1:02:54.040 --> 1:02:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm with that, Like I like that this show kind

1:02:57.000 --> 1:02:59.360
<v Speaker 2>of bends and stuff, but it is just like what

1:02:59.400 --> 1:03:00.919
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna wait, he does get a boy.

1:03:01.120 --> 1:03:03.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes, what are we talking about? Yeah?

1:03:03.920 --> 1:03:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And the judge sets the bail at five million

1:03:07.000 --> 1:03:10.080
<v Speaker 1>dollars cash and Monona's like that's punitive, and the Judge's like, bitch,

1:03:10.080 --> 1:03:13.480
<v Speaker 1>shut up, I'm doing it. So at the precinct, Murphy

1:03:13.680 --> 1:03:16.360
<v Speaker 1>is storming into the bullpen like okay. The good news

1:03:16.480 --> 1:03:19.040
<v Speaker 1>is is that Wilkes has been remanded I guess, just

1:03:19.120 --> 1:03:21.160
<v Speaker 1>meaning that he doesn't have the money to pay for

1:03:21.160 --> 1:03:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the bail and he's getting a psychoval. But the bad

1:03:23.920 --> 1:03:27.640
<v Speaker 1>news is it's tough to try a case with no victims, Like, yeah,

1:03:28.200 --> 1:03:30.840
<v Speaker 1>very tough. Other bad news is that it turns out

1:03:30.880 --> 1:03:34.440
<v Speaker 1>those photos really were photoshopped. Amarro's like, I've got another

1:03:34.560 --> 1:03:37.000
<v Speaker 1>need lead though, there was a special needs boy from

1:03:37.040 --> 1:03:39.560
<v Speaker 1>a nearby school who went missing for six days last

1:03:39.600 --> 1:03:41.760
<v Speaker 1>year and when they found him, he had no idea

1:03:41.800 --> 1:03:44.680
<v Speaker 1>where he'd been. So now we're seeing a montage of

1:03:44.680 --> 1:03:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the gang out canvassing playgrounds with a photo of Simon.

1:03:47.960 --> 1:03:50.800
<v Speaker 1>People are like, no, sorry, don't recognize him. We've got

1:03:50.840 --> 1:03:52.959
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of kids going to lineups. They're not picking

1:03:53.040 --> 1:03:57.680
<v Speaker 1>him out of the lineup. They've got nothing, so except

1:03:57.720 --> 1:03:59.959
<v Speaker 1>some moms recognized him and said they've seen him out

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<v Speaker 1>taking pictures, but nothing else. None of the kids picked

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<v Speaker 1>him out of a lineup that none of these kids

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<v Speaker 1>that are in open molestation cases, and the special needs

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<v Speaker 1>boy who disappeared didn't identify him, so kind of it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>It does turn out.

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<v Speaker 1>That he has an ex wife and a son living

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<v Speaker 1>in Toronto and they're avoiding the NYPD calls. He said

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<v Speaker 1>they also found fluids, prints and all kinds of DNA

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<v Speaker 1>in the torture room, and then Rollins goes the bad news.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all Simon's so I guess he is schureking it

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<v Speaker 3>in there. Well they're like, well, he just cleaned the

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<v Speaker 3>place really well.

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<v Speaker 1>And Rollins's like, no, guys, you don't get it, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how could he there's no sign of bleach. How could

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<v Speaker 1>he get rid of everybody else's DNA but his own?

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's not how it works, Like if there was,

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<v Speaker 1>if it was bleached, it'd be completely clean, no DNA,

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<v Speaker 1>and Amaro's like, but he told us what he did

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<v Speaker 1>to kids in there, Like why would anyone make that up?

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<v Speaker 1>Cue the psychical Okay, and we got our boy, George

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<v Speaker 1>Hwang back in the box and I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, you know, very calm.

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<v Speaker 1>He like, I'm a guy from both sides that agreed

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<v Speaker 1>to evaluate you.

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<v Speaker 3>So here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>George Wang says, have you ever been in therapy? And

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, no, I never had the need. Okay, red

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<v Speaker 1>flag and he's like, the only thing I did was

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke to the wrong people about my fantasy life.

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<v Speaker 1>And Huang's like, yeah, let's explore your very graphic fantasy life.

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<v Speaker 1>But Dick Wolf does not want us to hear that conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>so we cut to Barbara Benson and Murphy walking and

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<v Speaker 1>talking with Wang, who tells them to be honest.

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<v Speaker 3>He scares me.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the biggest things is he's never sought treatment,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's been having these fantasies in his head since childhood.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd become more graphic over time. A few years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>the thoughts evolved into the photoshop photos, then building that room.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's escalating, like an addict.

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<v Speaker 1>Will he act on these impulses, they ask Huang, and

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<v Speaker 1>Huang is like, listen, some people talk about taking their

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<v Speaker 1>own lives. We worry about them when they buy a gun.

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<v Speaker 1>And that torture chamber is an arsenal. So that's when

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<v Speaker 1>you start to worry, you know. So now the meeting

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<v Speaker 1>with him and his lawyer, and she's like, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you offering? And Barbara goes intensive supervision. He moves

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<v Speaker 1>out of a school zone, and he goes on the registry.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that sounds fair, fair, right, Like I think

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds pretty good for like you won't cry your south,

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<v Speaker 1>No one cares. Yeah, I don't know how many barmetzvahs

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be getting into around teens. But uh, Simon

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<v Speaker 1>seems jazzed. He goes no jail time, and Manona's like,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, he didn't even do anything and lives like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but a jury is not gonna love the photos of

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<v Speaker 1>that torture chamber, like the saws, the chairs, the drains,

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<v Speaker 1>And Manona's like, okay, so you're just gonna go after

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<v Speaker 1>this man for his thoughts. That is a gross violation

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<v Speaker 1>of civil liberties. And Barbara comes for her and goes,

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<v Speaker 1>who are you representing here? Your activist friends looking for

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<v Speaker 1>a test case so they can fundraise, or your client,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she calls his bluff and goes, Simon, Barba's

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to make you doubt me, and she shoves

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<v Speaker 1>the offer back in their face and is like, I

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<v Speaker 1>dare you to take this to trial. So no, I

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<v Speaker 1>loved it. They're just trying to shake your confidence in me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I was obsessed with her here. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>just had it handled. Not stressed, but pissed and like

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<v Speaker 1>put them in their place. Yeah, and she you could

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<v Speaker 1>tell she's totally like this is a landmark case about thought.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a psycho bitch? Wasn't she not?

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<v Speaker 2>William Lewis's attorney. She's a dumb bitch, was she? I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like she was.

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<v Speaker 1>She's definitely represented some psychos. She definitely has whole on.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see few. Let's see who her clients are. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>she's had Jeremy Jones from the episode Criminal Hatred, Lena

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<v Speaker 1>Olsen from Rapist Anonymous, Simon Wilkes, and then Jenna Scott.

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<v Speaker 3>She represents the girl who raped her friend in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode we just did, the girl who catfished her friend

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<v Speaker 1>and then like came in and like, what's rape in

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<v Speaker 1>the night?

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<v Speaker 3>I remember that? Okay? Well, she represents a rapists anonymous.

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<v Speaker 1>It's basically like making a murderer where the guy gets

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<v Speaker 1>out of jail exonerated. Then he kills the daughter and

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<v Speaker 1>then the mother kills him. I think, and she represents her.

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<v Speaker 2>She's really such a bigger fix, that's in my head

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<v Speaker 2>because then she also gets this guy, like I think

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<v Speaker 2>he hates being gay and he like rapes sky people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Jeremy Jones, serial rapist Robert will Later a murderer, but

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like he.

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<v Speaker 1>Is ah okay, and I was completely wrong about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Lena Olsen is a totally different person.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a recovering alcoholic who stocked and murdered her lover,

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<v Speaker 1>fellow alcoholic Jean Firestein, when he refused to lie.

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<v Speaker 2>This is This is the one where we had Amanda

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<v Speaker 2>Seifried's husband on it and it was like the AA

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<v Speaker 2>meetings and the fifteenth Steps. That was that I can't

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<v Speaker 2>believe that this is it. So she those are her

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<v Speaker 2>known client. I'm like shocked. Those are her four Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>in my head, she's been in fifteen episodes and was

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<v Speaker 2>William Lewis's attorney.

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<v Speaker 3>That is.

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<v Speaker 4>She.

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<v Speaker 2>But she just gives me evil bitch but like good

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<v Speaker 2>at her job. I don't know, It's like tough, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So now we're in court Barba's questioning Finn. He explains, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Simon told me he wanted to torture a young boy

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<v Speaker 2>to death in there. And now it's Monona's turn and

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<v Speaker 2>she's like, well, in your hundreds of crime scenes that

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<v Speaker 2>you've processed in your many years on the job, how

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<v Speaker 2>common is it for there to be zero evidence of

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<v Speaker 2>a crime? And Finn's like, it happens, and then she's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of running circles around him.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, we can't know for sure. He even brought

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<v Speaker 1>another person into that room, like you know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>not this is a nothing burger basically, which I hate that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>If I was on the jury, I'd be like, keep

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<v Speaker 2>this man off the streets totally.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care. I would have totally been like guilty. Yeah. Same.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's Amorrow's turn and she brings up him talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Simon about watching videos for release.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, was that true?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, no, I was trying to get on

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<v Speaker 1>his side, and she's like, so you shared a fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>to get a reaction. Isn't that what Simon did? And

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<v Speaker 1>Tomarro goes, he built a room, which that to me

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<v Speaker 1>is like the crux of the episode. Yes, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just about your your thoughts, like you can have as

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<v Speaker 1>many fucked up thoughts as you want. He built a

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<v Speaker 1>room that would facilitate those thoughts, you know what I mean. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she I love his line.

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<v Speaker 3>Reading of that. He just goes, he built a room

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<v Speaker 3>like it's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>And then now she bates Tomorrow about judging people's behavior

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<v Speaker 1>based on past statements and goes, could anyone have predicted

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<v Speaker 1>that you would snap one night and go after three

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<v Speaker 1>boys with a baseball bat? And Tomorrow's like, they came

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<v Speaker 1>after me, they sprayed my house with bullets. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even remember what that's from.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's people being pissed when he murdered

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<v Speaker 2>that kill someone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, probably from Amorrow's one to eighty.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just like blacking it out. But Barbara, like

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<v Speaker 1>Barba objects and she goes with drawn like she's doing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of dirty move with heraw like that's like

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<v Speaker 1>where she brings up incendiary shit and then goes, what's ron,

1:11:05.960 --> 1:11:06.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a very it's.

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<v Speaker 3>A Buchanan move. I feel like Buchanon does that a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, now they've.

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<v Speaker 1>Got Wong on the stand, Yes, we do love. Delaney

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<v Speaker 1>Huang is on the stand and Monona is having a

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<v Speaker 1>harder time getting at him, like she's like, are you

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<v Speaker 1>telling the jury you can predict beyond a reasonable a

1:11:27.720 --> 1:11:30.040
<v Speaker 1>doubt when someone is going to commit a crime, And

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, bitch, my job is to evaluate.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm giving you my evaluation.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she takes a dig at him, calling him

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<v Speaker 1>a psychic, and there's an objection.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like with drawn again.

1:11:38.360 --> 1:11:41.600
<v Speaker 1>So she's being now she's being petty and caddy and

1:11:41.720 --> 1:11:44.880
<v Speaker 1>nasty to our Huong. So outside the courtroom, the gang

1:11:44.920 --> 1:11:46.479
<v Speaker 1>is discussing it. They're like, I don't know if the

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<v Speaker 1>jury's going to go for this. And then finally a

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<v Speaker 1>little like array of hope, a little bit of good news.

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<v Speaker 1>Rollins gets to get a text the what ex wife

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<v Speaker 1>is willing to talk to them?

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<v Speaker 3>So did they call her on the phone? Did they

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<v Speaker 3>get on Skype?

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<v Speaker 1>No? They send tomorrow and Rollins to Toronto toot Sweet

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<v Speaker 1>to speak to paula Walker who looked so familiar to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I looked her up and her name, the actress

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<v Speaker 1>is Welker White, and she looks very familiar to me.

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<v Speaker 3>She's been in two other.

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<v Speaker 1>Svus, some that we've one that we've covered, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's been a bunch of Scorre Sasey movies. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I see that she's married to another actor, So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a click. I click on who he is

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<v Speaker 1>she is married to? You know the episode we do

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<v Speaker 1>with some of our live shows, or just look like

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<v Speaker 1>one from season one, Remember how there's like a douchey

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<v Speaker 1>novelist named Hampton Trill and they go to his amazing apartment. Yeah,

1:12:37.400 --> 1:12:41.479
<v Speaker 1>him and munch like fight. She's married to Hampton Trill. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I love a little SVU. Connect the dots. The guy,

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<v Speaker 1>the actor's name is Damian Young. He's in a bunch

1:12:47.040 --> 1:12:49.240
<v Speaker 1>of law and order, like so is she she's in.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in a bunch of regular law and order and

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<v Speaker 1>criminal intent and stuff like that. I think, or just

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<v Speaker 1>look like one is his only SVU. But so anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like a little theater couple. She's like, she's like

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<v Speaker 1>a well known I think theater coach and professor and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff are acting coach and stuff. So anyway, I liked

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<v Speaker 1>looking that. And she's been in all these Scorsese movies.

1:13:09.479 --> 1:13:13.599
<v Speaker 1>She's in Goodfellas anyway, She shocked they found her. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I change my name, I got off the internet. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even think that Simon knew where I moved after

1:13:18.080 --> 1:13:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I remarried, So like, she's really surprised that they've been

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<v Speaker 1>able to track her down. She says when she first

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<v Speaker 1>met Simon, he was magnetic. She was very attracted to him. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa doesn't get it. I don't get it, but there's

1:13:29.880 --> 1:13:32.400
<v Speaker 1>something there with these women. They're loving him. But she

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<v Speaker 1>said he had a darkness. She could feel it. She

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<v Speaker 1>started to notice the way he would slam his laptop

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<v Speaker 1>shut whenever she entered the room, and then one day

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<v Speaker 1>he left it open, and he was messaging with people

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<v Speaker 1>about her and about their son, Bobby, and about the

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<v Speaker 1>things that he would let these people on the internet

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<v Speaker 1>do to his wife and son.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you believe how fucking timely this is crazy? I

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<v Speaker 3>was thinking that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is like that woman, this is

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<v Speaker 1>like Giselle Pellico, like this is crazy. And Bobby at

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<v Speaker 1>the time was six years old, and this guy's online

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<v Speaker 1>going here's what you guys can do to my wife

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<v Speaker 1>and son. He said it was a game when she

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<v Speaker 1>asked him, But she's like, you know, he knew he

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<v Speaker 1>had to get the hell away from us, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just told Bobby that his dad was sick, and I

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<v Speaker 1>made a deal with him that if he agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>never see Bobby again or be around children, I would

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<v Speaker 1>keep quiet. So she's like, you're telling me this torture

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<v Speaker 1>room that you found is across the street from a

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<v Speaker 1>grade school. She's like, clearly he broke the deal, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So back in court, Simon is on the stand. Against

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<v Speaker 1>his lawyer's advice, Monona needs to let everyone know I

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<v Speaker 1>did not want this for him, okay, and he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want the jury to see that I am

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<v Speaker 1>super normal and that they too could be targeted for

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<v Speaker 1>simply their thoughts and constructing a probably million dollar fucking

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<v Speaker 1>torture room in their studio. Now it's Barba's turn, and

1:14:55.439 --> 1:14:58.479
<v Speaker 1>he brings up Simon's ex wife and son and asks

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<v Speaker 1>are you in contact with them? And he's like, I don't.

1:15:01.520 --> 1:15:02.960
<v Speaker 1>He's flustered. He's like, I don't see what that has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with anything, and then boom, the timing always

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. It's like they've got PA's and they

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<v Speaker 1>go to the ex wife and son. Let's go so

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<v Speaker 1>as he's on the stand talking about his ex wife

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<v Speaker 1>and son. They walk into the courtroom. Okay, the son

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<v Speaker 1>is a teen now. He looks very awkward. He's I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's very awkward to say, we need to go

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<v Speaker 1>to New York so that we can see your dad.

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<v Speaker 1>You haven't seen in like ten years. He's got a

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<v Speaker 1>torture room. We're not sure if he did anything, but

1:15:27.680 --> 1:15:29.599
<v Speaker 1>you just get in the car. Like, So they bring

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby and Simon is. Simon makes a long eye contact

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<v Speaker 1>with his ex wife right like, she's like, you know

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm here.

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<v Speaker 3>You went against our deal.

1:15:41.400 --> 1:15:44.599
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So Barbara asks again, why aren't you in touch

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<v Speaker 1>with your ex and your son? And he's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>knew I couldn't be around them because of the pictures

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<v Speaker 1>in my head.

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<v Speaker 3>And he goes.

1:15:52.280 --> 1:15:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Barba goes, didn't your ex make you leave because she

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<v Speaker 1>was afraid you were going to act on your urges?

1:15:56.439 --> 1:15:58.519
<v Speaker 1>And Simon goes, no, no, it was my decision. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't hurt him, he's my son, never hurt him. But

1:16:01.160 --> 1:16:03.800
<v Speaker 1>he's getting upset like he knows like maybe he would

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<v Speaker 1>have hurt his son. He is, and Monona looks like, fuck,

1:16:07.000 --> 1:16:10.280
<v Speaker 1>this really just fucked my I was really smooth sailing

1:16:10.360 --> 1:16:14.200
<v Speaker 1>until just now. So now it's Barba's closing statement. He

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<v Speaker 1>mentions the torture videos that Simon's watched. He's describing the

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<v Speaker 1>horrible torture room, the saw, the drains for blood, Like

1:16:21.520 --> 1:16:22.720
<v Speaker 1>did he get a plumber in there?

1:16:23.080 --> 1:16:25.120
<v Speaker 3>Drains don't just go to nowhere? You know what I mean.

1:16:25.120 --> 1:16:28.400
<v Speaker 3>You can't like self installed drains to plumbing.

1:16:28.160 --> 1:16:30.519
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, he doesn't give me the YouTube and do

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<v Speaker 2>it myself vibe.

1:16:32.000 --> 1:16:34.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I'm confused about the plumbing needs that he

1:16:34.960 --> 1:16:38.040
<v Speaker 1>uh employed to maake this room happen. But anyway, he's

1:16:38.080 --> 1:16:40.600
<v Speaker 1>like telling the jury, if Simon was so afraid that

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<v Speaker 1>he might hurt his own son that he left him,

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't we be equally as concerned. And Monona's turn now

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<v Speaker 1>with her aggressive side part. I mean, her hair is

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<v Speaker 1>like all the way to the side is once again

1:16:53.960 --> 1:16:57.960
<v Speaker 1>bringing up the zero victim, zero nobody, no crime, right

1:16:58.120 --> 1:17:01.120
<v Speaker 1>like zero victims, zero evidence, zero crime. He's an artist

1:17:01.200 --> 1:17:04.479
<v Speaker 1>who pushes boundaries and then she goes, have you ever

1:17:04.520 --> 1:17:06.960
<v Speaker 1>had thoughts you knew you'd never act on? I know

1:17:07.080 --> 1:17:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I have cheating killing your spouse? Think about it? Actually

1:17:11.320 --> 1:17:13.599
<v Speaker 1>don't think about it, or you'll be where mister Wilkes

1:17:13.640 --> 1:17:17.240
<v Speaker 1>is now. And it's like she has a fucking point.

1:17:17.240 --> 1:17:19.160
<v Speaker 1>But the room, I mean, it all goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>the room. If the room didn't exist, we would not

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<v Speaker 1>be here. Monona muscles her way into the elevator in

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<v Speaker 1>the next scene to confront Barbara.

1:17:26.640 --> 1:17:30.360
<v Speaker 2>She's like, nice, it's also like, we're usually meaner pedophiles

1:17:30.400 --> 1:17:34.000
<v Speaker 2>to this idea of like it's just the fantasy he has.

1:17:34.080 --> 1:17:37.120
<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, we don't like people that fantasize and

1:17:37.160 --> 1:17:40.400
<v Speaker 2>go on sites that have like, yeah, him visiting the

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<v Speaker 2>sites should have at least gotten him lesser charges.

1:17:44.439 --> 1:17:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And also, are you allowed to photoshop material like that?

1:17:50.240 --> 1:17:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Or I mean, are you allowed to photoshop child sex

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<v Speaker 1>abuse images? Like you're not right? Like I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>its own charge. It's like, but I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it's if that's the whole thing they're saying, now,

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<v Speaker 1>how all this child sexabaste images is made up of

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<v Speaker 1>not real children?

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<v Speaker 3>So is that okay?

1:18:05.479 --> 1:18:08.439
<v Speaker 1>If it's like a fully digitally created child that's not

1:18:08.600 --> 1:18:12.679
<v Speaker 1>real in these in this material? Is that illegal? That's

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<v Speaker 1>like a whole thing that people are discussing. I don't

1:18:15.200 --> 1:18:21.599
<v Speaker 1>fucking know. It's it's like horrible, but I don't know, Okay.

1:18:21.680 --> 1:18:24.479
<v Speaker 1>In the next scene, Monona muscles her way into the

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<v Speaker 1>elevator to confront Barbara. She's like, nice move with the

1:18:27.320 --> 1:18:29.519
<v Speaker 1>X and the kid bringing them in to rattle him,

1:18:29.880 --> 1:18:32.880
<v Speaker 1>and Barba's like, ever, wonder why he's so rattled, Like

1:18:33.040 --> 1:18:35.439
<v Speaker 1>what are the thoughts in his head about his own son?

1:18:36.120 --> 1:18:37.600
<v Speaker 1>And then she goes, do you want to live in

1:18:37.640 --> 1:18:39.200
<v Speaker 1>a world where you can be put in prison for

1:18:39.240 --> 1:18:41.880
<v Speaker 1>what's in your head? And, like I wrote here one

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<v Speaker 1>of the top moral conundrum SVU episodes. I don't want

1:18:45.400 --> 1:18:47.320
<v Speaker 1>anyone to go to prison for what's in their head,

1:18:47.560 --> 1:18:49.240
<v Speaker 1>but I want to go in prison when they buy

1:18:49.320 --> 1:18:52.080
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of saws and they are clearly escalating. It's

1:18:52.080 --> 1:18:54.840
<v Speaker 1>like what you said about stalking, Like I can think

1:18:54.880 --> 1:18:57.360
<v Speaker 1>about Brad pitt All, I fucking want. I can have

1:18:57.560 --> 1:19:01.000
<v Speaker 1>dreams that we are having sex for hours. If I

1:19:01.040 --> 1:19:03.280
<v Speaker 1>start sitting outside of his house and then I buy

1:19:03.280 --> 1:19:05.679
<v Speaker 1>a gun, that's when we have to start talking about

1:19:05.760 --> 1:19:08.760
<v Speaker 1>what's going on with me, you know, Like that's it's

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<v Speaker 1>just to me, Like the room is everything, and the

1:19:11.680 --> 1:19:13.200
<v Speaker 1>saws and the drains.

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<v Speaker 3>So at the court it's verdict time.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh oh, not guilty on all charges or on both charges.

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<v Speaker 1>The gang looks stressed, disappointed. His wife hugs him. She's

1:19:25.520 --> 1:19:27.519
<v Speaker 1>been standing by him the whole time. She's like, what

1:19:27.600 --> 1:19:30.360
<v Speaker 1>can I say? I love my bar Mitzvah photographer husband

1:19:30.400 --> 1:19:34.800
<v Speaker 1>who dreams about like fully murdering children, like in a

1:19:34.880 --> 1:19:35.559
<v Speaker 1>violent way.

1:19:35.840 --> 1:19:37.639
<v Speaker 3>What can I say? He's just an artist. You guys

1:19:37.680 --> 1:19:38.280
<v Speaker 3>don't get him.

1:19:39.000 --> 1:19:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I say that, But then it's like every

1:19:41.080 --> 1:19:44.880
<v Speaker 1>single serial killer has a wife they met like in prison,

1:19:45.040 --> 1:19:47.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, or like people that have like a million

1:19:47.160 --> 1:19:49.439
<v Speaker 1>women writing them in prison. So I guess I get

1:19:49.479 --> 1:19:52.400
<v Speaker 1>why people are can be into this kind of thing.

1:19:52.920 --> 1:19:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I can fix him. So after court, we haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>this before. The gang is at a restaurant, dream in

1:20:00.240 --> 1:20:02.479
<v Speaker 1>their stars away at a little circular table. It looks

1:20:02.520 --> 1:20:06.400
<v Speaker 1>like it looks like very midtown, right, It's like or downtown.

1:20:06.479 --> 1:20:10.000
<v Speaker 1>It's got like like leather red booths, white tablecloths, and

1:20:10.040 --> 1:20:13.360
<v Speaker 1>no one's eating. They're just all drinking and they're drinking

1:20:13.360 --> 1:20:15.800
<v Speaker 1>their stars away. They're trying to tell Barbara, hey, no

1:20:15.840 --> 1:20:18.480
<v Speaker 1>big deal, you did it. You did a really good job. Considering,

1:20:18.960 --> 1:20:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and then Simon and his wife a Monona walk in

1:20:22.160 --> 1:20:24.599
<v Speaker 1>which I don't think we've seen a post court wink

1:20:24.640 --> 1:20:28.160
<v Speaker 1>wink at the same eating establishment and Manona like nods

1:20:28.200 --> 1:20:30.479
<v Speaker 1>to Barbara and Nick like can't handle it, like he

1:20:31.080 --> 1:20:34.080
<v Speaker 1>there's this scene is solely to build up Nick's rage,

1:20:34.120 --> 1:20:36.080
<v Speaker 1>like Nick wants to pop off on this guy, like

1:20:36.160 --> 1:20:39.519
<v Speaker 1>so bad. So next thing we see is him kissing

1:20:39.600 --> 1:20:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Zaragobye putting her in a car, and he's like, okay, Maria,

1:20:43.120 --> 1:20:46.000
<v Speaker 1>so we'll keep talking then and she's like, actually, no, babe,

1:20:46.040 --> 1:20:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking the job. And he's like what the fuck

1:20:48.960 --> 1:20:51.280
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, no, no, you can come too, and

1:20:51.320 --> 1:20:53.719
<v Speaker 1>he's like, and do what check Id's at a movie

1:20:53.760 --> 1:20:57.360
<v Speaker 1>studio gate, which is fun. You could probably do more

1:20:57.400 --> 1:20:59.960
<v Speaker 1>than that, sir, like, but it was a funny little

1:21:00.439 --> 1:21:02.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a funny little nod to what he thinks LA

1:21:03.000 --> 1:21:05.000
<v Speaker 1>is for people with like detectives.

1:21:05.439 --> 1:21:07.479
<v Speaker 3>I have my He's like, I have my mom my

1:21:07.560 --> 1:21:11.040
<v Speaker 3>recently discovered son. Like I'll fight you on this, and she's.

1:21:10.840 --> 1:21:14.679
<v Speaker 1>Like, honey, you think that the court is gonna give

1:21:14.800 --> 1:21:18.080
<v Speaker 1>the kid to you? Who shot an unarmed black teen

1:21:18.200 --> 1:21:21.839
<v Speaker 1>has all these like aggressive like incidents on your jacket

1:21:21.960 --> 1:21:22.439
<v Speaker 1>or whatever.

1:21:22.800 --> 1:21:23.240
<v Speaker 3>She goes.

1:21:23.320 --> 1:21:24.760
<v Speaker 1>If you want to fight me, you want to take

1:21:24.800 --> 1:21:26.600
<v Speaker 1>me to court, I'm gonna have to bring up stuff that.

1:21:26.600 --> 1:21:28.400
<v Speaker 3>You really don't want on the record. So you better

1:21:28.439 --> 1:21:28.960
<v Speaker 3>let this go.

1:21:29.360 --> 1:21:32.479
<v Speaker 1>Like you attacking a guy I was dating, like all

1:21:32.560 --> 1:21:35.840
<v Speaker 1>that shit, you know, like, and Nick's like, fuck, she's right.

1:21:35.880 --> 1:21:38.040
<v Speaker 3>I didn't even think that's true because.

1:21:37.760 --> 1:21:41.160
<v Speaker 1>We interviewed that guy for mus Dominic r Yah yeah dominic.

1:21:41.240 --> 1:21:41.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:21:41.520 --> 1:21:44.120
<v Speaker 2>And I'll never forget when he goes theater. People are

1:21:44.200 --> 1:21:50.840
<v Speaker 2>the best. And I go, honey, like what, let's be real,

1:21:51.720 --> 1:21:53.360
<v Speaker 2>But I'll always remember him for that.

1:21:53.840 --> 1:21:55.240
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, a blessing.

1:21:55.320 --> 1:22:00.599
<v Speaker 1>So Nick stupidly thinking because he's a fucking idiot man

1:22:00.640 --> 1:22:03.479
<v Speaker 1>who just literally does everything in his life without thinking,

1:22:03.680 --> 1:22:05.960
<v Speaker 1>never thought for a second. Oh wait, actually, if she

1:22:06.080 --> 1:22:09.080
<v Speaker 1>just wants to take zar to California, she probably could.

1:22:09.120 --> 1:22:11.479
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of fucked up stuff I've done, like,

1:22:11.880 --> 1:22:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it's gonna work out in court.

1:22:14.280 --> 1:22:18.040
<v Speaker 1>And so next thing we see is fucking torture room

1:22:18.120 --> 1:22:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Tommy Simon Wilkes with a big ass paparazzi camera just

1:22:22.400 --> 1:22:25.400
<v Speaker 1>snapping pictures of kids on a playground without consent. I

1:22:25.439 --> 1:22:28.680
<v Speaker 1>don't think that's legal, but he's just doing it and

1:22:28.800 --> 1:22:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Nick walks up to him and goes, you got five.

1:22:30.760 --> 1:22:33.680
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe they couldn't even get him to a

1:22:33.760 --> 1:22:35.920
<v Speaker 2>deal where it's like you can't be on a playground

1:22:35.960 --> 1:22:38.800
<v Speaker 2>like right, I just feel like the prosecute the city

1:22:38.960 --> 1:22:42.160
<v Speaker 2>fucking flopped, like you can't get him on anything.

1:22:42.680 --> 1:22:45.280
<v Speaker 1>And now he's more empowered than ever. He's like I'm untouchable.

1:22:45.320 --> 1:22:49.320
<v Speaker 1>They can't get me. Right, So he's sitting there snapping

1:22:49.360 --> 1:22:52.000
<v Speaker 1>away at these kids, like he's snapping through a fence,

1:22:52.080 --> 1:22:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Like how good are these pictures gonna be?

1:22:54.360 --> 1:22:57.960
<v Speaker 3>But also how is not one parent like popping off?

1:22:58.320 --> 1:23:03.240
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Like for I feel like that's an immediate you're

1:23:03.240 --> 1:23:04.120
<v Speaker 1>not even supposed to be.

1:23:04.520 --> 1:23:07.479
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm imagining the snake park in Highland Park, like

1:23:07.520 --> 1:23:11.920
<v Speaker 2>if some they're snapping photos, they would be the Richard

1:23:12.000 --> 1:23:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Ramirez mob, Like there's no way that would.

1:23:14.040 --> 1:23:15.679
<v Speaker 3>Be, no way, no way.

1:23:16.280 --> 1:23:18.560
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of these parks do have rules that

1:23:18.600 --> 1:23:20.280
<v Speaker 1>you're not allowed to be there without a kid.

1:23:20.320 --> 1:23:21.680
<v Speaker 3>But he is on the sidewalk.

1:23:21.720 --> 1:23:23.760
<v Speaker 1>This guy fucking knows how to skirt the wall all

1:23:23.840 --> 1:23:25.920
<v Speaker 1>the time, like he's not in the playground.

1:23:26.000 --> 1:23:28.160
<v Speaker 3>He's on the sidewalk, so that's what he says.

1:23:28.240 --> 1:23:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Nick goes, you got five seconds to put that camera down,

1:23:30.400 --> 1:23:32.599
<v Speaker 1>and he goes, this is a public sidewalk. You can't

1:23:32.640 --> 1:23:36.519
<v Speaker 1>control me. And then he goes smile and goes to

1:23:36.560 --> 1:23:37.760
<v Speaker 1>take a picture of Amorrow.

1:23:38.240 --> 1:23:39.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean that's on him.

1:23:40.000 --> 1:23:44.599
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, Yeah, like you deserve to get like that, Yeah,

1:23:44.640 --> 1:23:46.040
<v Speaker 1>like taking a picture without consent.

1:23:46.320 --> 1:23:49.479
<v Speaker 3>So Amorrow goes to grab his camera and then Simon

1:23:49.560 --> 1:23:52.800
<v Speaker 3>punches him, and that sets Nick all the way off.

1:23:53.160 --> 1:23:56.160
<v Speaker 1>He starts beating the shit out of Simon, like he

1:23:56.280 --> 1:23:58.280
<v Speaker 1>is down on the ground at Tomorrow is just punching

1:23:58.280 --> 1:24:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and fucking kicking and going to town on Simon. The

1:24:01.120 --> 1:24:03.360
<v Speaker 1>cops come. Nick's like, I'm on the job. I'm on

1:24:03.439 --> 1:24:07.479
<v Speaker 1>the job. But they take him away, and that's dick

1:24:07.560 --> 1:24:10.920
<v Speaker 1>wolf baby of Amorrow making probably I think his last

1:24:10.960 --> 1:24:13.519
<v Speaker 1>bad decision on us for you, Like I think this

1:24:13.600 --> 1:24:15.479
<v Speaker 1>is this is the end of the road for him.

1:24:15.600 --> 1:24:20.759
<v Speaker 1>But go on and tell me all about the real crime.

1:24:20.840 --> 1:24:21.880
<v Speaker 3>And I hope it's not.

1:24:23.479 --> 1:24:36.800
<v Speaker 2>There's no room with drains, drainless drainless crime. Okay, so

1:24:37.880 --> 1:24:41.320
<v Speaker 2>this is Gilberto Valley. I would say, I'm gonna say

1:24:41.320 --> 1:24:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Gilberto Valley and, as The New York Post called him,

1:24:46.800 --> 1:24:47.840
<v Speaker 2>the cannibal Cop.

1:24:48.120 --> 1:24:50.559
<v Speaker 3>Okay and cannibal cops.

1:24:50.560 --> 1:24:53.559
<v Speaker 2>First article that comes up is from January twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>First and it's Cannibal Cop dishes on Army Hammer's scandal.

1:24:57.680 --> 1:25:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, they brought him in as a celebrity sour,

1:25:01.040 --> 1:25:04.719
<v Speaker 1>so no, and.

1:25:04.960 --> 1:25:07.160
<v Speaker 3>The New York Post does not quit. Here are some

1:25:07.240 --> 1:25:08.000
<v Speaker 3>more headlines.

1:25:08.520 --> 1:25:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Cannibal Cop dishes on how his twisted role plays come

1:25:12.400 --> 1:25:18.639
<v Speaker 2>to a boil. Cannibal Cop says he's a hot dish

1:25:18.760 --> 1:25:22.280
<v Speaker 2>on the dating scene. And then one of them says,

1:25:22.280 --> 1:25:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Cannibal Cop interested in attending law school, so I will

1:25:27.560 --> 1:25:31.599
<v Speaker 2>fill you in on everything. So basically, his estrange wife

1:25:31.640 --> 1:25:35.320
<v Speaker 2>discovers a porno collection on his computer and contacts the FBI.

1:25:35.920 --> 1:25:38.839
<v Speaker 2>So in October twenty twelve, this New York City police

1:25:38.840 --> 1:25:43.040
<v Speaker 2>officer is charged with conspiring to kidnap, torture, cook, and

1:25:43.160 --> 1:25:47.320
<v Speaker 2>eat women whose names he listed in his computer. He

1:25:47.479 --> 1:25:51.080
<v Speaker 2>was twenty eight at the time from living in Forest Hills, Queens.

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<v Speaker 2>He also is charged in conspiring to cross state lines

1:25:55.240 --> 1:25:59.680
<v Speaker 2>to kidnap the women, and with illegally accessing a federal database.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, that's honestly the reaction I wanted. That's

1:26:06.040 --> 1:26:06.799
<v Speaker 3>so scary.

1:26:08.960 --> 1:26:11.960
<v Speaker 2>So if you want to eat women and cross state lines,

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<v Speaker 2>you also can't be a cop.

1:26:13.320 --> 1:26:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Like, sorry, it is too much pick a lane. That's

1:26:20.520 --> 1:26:21.439
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we're not lost.

1:26:21.479 --> 1:26:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Cultureisas but that is rule of cult. That's a rule

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<v Speaker 1>of culture. If you want to eat women across state lines,

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot be a Cops are not.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>So the maximum sentence for these crimes could be life

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<v Speaker 2>in prison. And this started when investigators uncovered a file

1:26:40.240 --> 1:26:43.000
<v Speaker 2>on Valley's computer containing the names and pictures of at

1:26:43.080 --> 1:26:46.600
<v Speaker 2>least one hundred women and the addresses and physical descriptions

1:26:46.640 --> 1:26:49.680
<v Speaker 2>of some of them. And it said he had undertaken

1:26:49.720 --> 1:26:52.560
<v Speaker 2>like surveillance of some of these women at their workplace

1:26:52.760 --> 1:26:57.040
<v Speaker 2>and at their homes. So excerpts from a July online

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<v Speaker 2>cop So he had like three co conspirators as well,

1:27:00.120 --> 1:27:02.120
<v Speaker 2>So like he was talking to real people on the

1:27:02.160 --> 1:27:06.200
<v Speaker 2>internet about real plans, and so there are like these

1:27:06.280 --> 1:27:10.840
<v Speaker 2>unnamed people so whatever from a July online convo, He's

1:27:10.880 --> 1:27:14.080
<v Speaker 2>quoted saying I can just show up at her home unannounced.

1:27:14.520 --> 1:27:16.840
<v Speaker 2>It will not alert her, and I can knock her out,

1:27:16.880 --> 1:27:19.080
<v Speaker 2>wait until dark, and kidnap her right out of her

1:27:19.120 --> 1:27:23.040
<v Speaker 2>home and this is ruders. And then she also, I

1:27:23.120 --> 1:27:26.160
<v Speaker 2>was thinking of tying her body onto some kind of apparatus,

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<v Speaker 2>cook her over a low heat, keep her alive as

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<v Speaker 2>long as possible.

1:27:31.240 --> 1:27:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Like that's what I mean.

1:27:32.000 --> 1:27:34.360
<v Speaker 2>You can't be punished for your thoughts, but like you

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<v Speaker 2>can't have these thoughts, like sorry, yeah, you can't want

1:27:39.720 --> 1:27:42.680
<v Speaker 2>to cook women on a low temp because if you

1:27:42.760 --> 1:27:44.760
<v Speaker 2>have an opportunity to do it, you would take it.

1:27:45.600 --> 1:27:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why are you not seeking out help that these

1:27:50.080 --> 1:27:50.759
<v Speaker 1>are your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, that's from the episode.

1:27:52.640 --> 1:27:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I don't even need therapy and like that's

1:27:55.520 --> 1:27:58.760
<v Speaker 2>what long was so on the money with, Like you

1:27:58.800 --> 1:28:02.240
<v Speaker 2>don't even think something's wrong with these fantasies that you're having.

1:28:03.200 --> 1:28:04.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, anyways.

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<v Speaker 2>Other quotes This is from the New York Times. Part

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<v Speaker 2>of me wants to put her in the oven while

1:28:09.280 --> 1:28:11.719
<v Speaker 2>she is still alive, but at a very low heat,

1:28:12.120 --> 1:28:19.200
<v Speaker 2>makes some bacon strips off of her belly. He said

1:28:19.280 --> 1:28:21.559
<v Speaker 2>he would kidnap a woman for five grand and he

1:28:21.600 --> 1:28:26.479
<v Speaker 2>had a document called abducting and Cooking a blueprint. This

1:28:26.600 --> 1:28:29.800
<v Speaker 2>is truly like a Simpsons episode to have more evidence.

1:28:31.600 --> 1:28:35.680
<v Speaker 2>This evidence is so funny, Like, I mean, he was

1:28:35.800 --> 1:28:38.120
<v Speaker 2>legit googling, like how do I chloroform a woman?

1:28:39.720 --> 1:28:42.080
<v Speaker 3>Like he was googling all of these things, and you're

1:28:42.080 --> 1:28:42.519
<v Speaker 3>a cop.

1:28:42.640 --> 1:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>You don't even know they're gonna like they can check

1:28:44.920 --> 1:28:46.599
<v Speaker 1>your Google history, like I mean.

1:28:47.600 --> 1:28:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Other descriptions stringing a victim up by her feet and

1:28:50.680 --> 1:28:53.320
<v Speaker 2>cutting her throat, letting her bleed out, than butcher her

1:28:53.360 --> 1:28:53.800
<v Speaker 2>while she.

1:28:53.880 --> 1:28:55.400
<v Speaker 3>Hangs the New York Times.

1:28:55.439 --> 1:28:59.719
<v Speaker 2>God, she'll be trussed up like a turkey, terrified, screaming

1:28:59.760 --> 1:29:03.840
<v Speaker 2>and trying the daily news. His cop buddy involved in

1:29:03.840 --> 1:29:07.320
<v Speaker 2>an investigation, said that this was just an online fantasy game.

1:29:08.439 --> 1:29:13.120
<v Speaker 3>Just a game. That's the big thing. It's just a game.

1:29:13.439 --> 1:29:15.639
<v Speaker 2>He goes, I became part of the cyber community where

1:29:15.680 --> 1:29:19.639
<v Speaker 2>people are exploring deviant thoughts and exploring their fetishes. Make

1:29:19.720 --> 1:29:21.800
<v Speaker 2>you try and out to the other person. Who could

1:29:21.800 --> 1:29:24.479
<v Speaker 2>be the sicker one, who could be the more depraved one?

1:29:24.640 --> 1:29:27.000
<v Speaker 2>The baby was sleeping, the mom was sleeping. There was

1:29:27.040 --> 1:29:27.920
<v Speaker 2>just nothing to do.

1:29:28.840 --> 1:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>So, oh my god, you're BOREDE So you're like, how

1:29:32.920 --> 1:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>can we torture and kill someone the most disgusting way?

1:29:36.479 --> 1:29:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, let me just ask a question as I'm

1:29:40.360 --> 1:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>thinking out loud. I don't know if I have a

1:29:41.760 --> 1:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>point here, because this is obviously disgusting and these are

1:29:44.200 --> 1:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>bad thoughts to have, but like, there are people making

1:29:47.520 --> 1:29:49.640
<v Speaker 1>movies of this kind of shit all the time. Like

1:29:49.720 --> 1:29:51.679
<v Speaker 1>Jared just told me about this horror movie he saw

1:29:51.720 --> 1:29:55.479
<v Speaker 1>from Taiwan that was horrific. He told me about one

1:29:55.520 --> 1:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>scene in it that I was like, that's so disgusting.

1:29:58.400 --> 1:30:02.760
<v Speaker 1>And people are fully making movies and physical representations of

1:30:02.800 --> 1:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>these things happening all the time. So do you think

1:30:07.000 --> 1:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>these guys think like, oh, yeah, we're just kind of

1:30:09.760 --> 1:30:12.559
<v Speaker 1>like doing that, but with our friends on the internet, Like,

1:30:12.640 --> 1:30:16.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I hate it. This is why I

1:30:16.280 --> 1:30:18.920
<v Speaker 1>don't watch horror movies. It's not fun for me to

1:30:19.240 --> 1:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>see people in pain or to imagine people in pain

1:30:21.880 --> 1:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>as a fantasy, But yet people love horror movies. Casey

1:30:28.040 --> 1:30:28.760
<v Speaker 1>cared away in.

1:30:30.320 --> 1:30:30.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

1:30:30.880 --> 1:30:34.080
<v Speaker 5>I think it's I think there's a difference there between

1:30:34.160 --> 1:30:38.040
<v Speaker 5>like making an art piece that's representative of an idea,

1:30:38.479 --> 1:30:42.360
<v Speaker 5>whereas these guys want to be a part of it's

1:30:42.400 --> 1:30:45.640
<v Speaker 5>more involved than yeah, creation.

1:30:45.360 --> 1:30:48.960
<v Speaker 3>It's not passive viewing. It's because I want yellow jackets.

1:30:49.040 --> 1:30:51.519
<v Speaker 2>They're can they're eating each other, and I'm not like

1:30:51.600 --> 1:30:52.719
<v Speaker 2>we got to get her.

1:30:52.960 --> 1:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I mean, yes, they're eating each other, like

1:30:56.040 --> 1:30:58.639
<v Speaker 1>from Survival. And also a lot of horror movies, of course,

1:30:58.680 --> 1:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>have deeper themes, like they're not just about murdering and

1:31:02.040 --> 1:31:05.439
<v Speaker 1>torture and whatever, like, there's often themes about other things

1:31:05.439 --> 1:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>in it, so it is art.

1:31:07.000 --> 1:31:11.519
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know, these fucking guys are just tell

1:31:11.600 --> 1:31:15.360
<v Speaker 3>us the TaiWhen he's seen, tell us what he told you.

1:31:15.640 --> 1:31:16.479
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know.

1:31:16.560 --> 1:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I guess the brief description I was given was that,

1:31:19.280 --> 1:31:22.760
<v Speaker 1>like this, you have this disorder that like makes your

1:31:22.800 --> 1:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>inhibitions completely go away, so you're everybody is just turning

1:31:25.880 --> 1:31:30.559
<v Speaker 1>into like a full psychotic, like fucking murdering crazy person

1:31:30.600 --> 1:31:33.439
<v Speaker 1>when they get this sickness. And this guy, this woman's

1:31:33.479 --> 1:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>eye gets ripped out of her head and then he

1:31:35.560 --> 1:31:38.120
<v Speaker 1>he he has sucks with the eyehole. And I know

1:31:38.240 --> 1:31:40.439
<v Speaker 1>that skull fucking's not a new thing, but it seemed

1:31:40.520 --> 1:31:42.759
<v Speaker 1>it sounded so disgusting to me when it was explained.

1:31:44.120 --> 1:31:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Is that not that doesn't seem like it's really making

1:31:47.120 --> 1:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>a big impact on either of you.

1:31:49.600 --> 1:31:55.160
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's disturbing and uh, Jared really seeks this

1:31:55.280 --> 1:31:55.800
<v Speaker 5>stuff out.

1:31:55.920 --> 1:32:01.520
<v Speaker 1>That's so hard, Like while while she's alive, as she's alive,

1:32:02.400 --> 1:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>she's alive.

1:32:03.320 --> 1:32:06.840
<v Speaker 3>Sorry I should have mentioned that, like that change is out. Yeah.

1:32:06.920 --> 1:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, it's not like an empty skull that's like you

1:32:09.000 --> 1:32:10.519
<v Speaker 1>find No, she's alive.

1:32:11.680 --> 1:32:12.479
<v Speaker 3>Does she get away?

1:32:13.520 --> 1:32:15.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what happens. I didn't watch this movie.

1:32:15.640 --> 1:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>That's like all I heard of that. Of that one scene.

1:32:19.320 --> 1:32:21.599
<v Speaker 1>I literally sent it to Alison and Halle and was like,

1:32:21.800 --> 1:32:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Jared says, you guys should do this for Ruin.

1:32:24.200 --> 1:32:27.040
<v Speaker 3>Sorry Alison, but.

1:32:29.240 --> 1:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so anyway, I don't even know what I'm trying

1:32:32.400 --> 1:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>to I obviously know it's different. It's just like I

1:32:36.720 --> 1:32:39.519
<v Speaker 1>could see these fucking weirdos go, Yeah, we're just trying

1:32:39.520 --> 1:32:41.720
<v Speaker 1>to talk about what's more disgusting to each other on

1:32:41.760 --> 1:32:46.240
<v Speaker 1>the internet. But then again, much like in the episode,

1:32:46.320 --> 1:32:50.840
<v Speaker 1>this guy having a list of real women circled and

1:32:50.880 --> 1:32:52.759
<v Speaker 1>the database and that he's talk.

1:32:52.800 --> 1:32:56.080
<v Speaker 3>To another level. That's not my kids. Yeah, that's not

1:32:56.120 --> 1:32:57.000
<v Speaker 3>like my kids asleep.

1:32:57.040 --> 1:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>So I'm online talking to some random dudes about what's

1:33:00.320 --> 1:33:02.280
<v Speaker 1>than something out like trying to one up each other

1:33:02.320 --> 1:33:06.879
<v Speaker 1>in grossness like that that changes it. But well, anyway,

1:33:07.240 --> 1:33:09.839
<v Speaker 1>talking about this fucking psychocop.

1:33:09.400 --> 1:33:12.759
<v Speaker 2>So he claims, uh, you know that once he shuts

1:33:12.800 --> 1:33:15.400
<v Speaker 2>down the computer, he goes back to being regular him.

1:33:15.760 --> 1:33:18.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's just his fantasy life. But that's just

1:33:18.400 --> 1:33:18.840
<v Speaker 2>not true.

1:33:18.920 --> 1:33:19.320
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

1:33:19.800 --> 1:33:22.600
<v Speaker 2>According to the Federal Park one of the federal prosecutors

1:33:22.640 --> 1:33:23.679
<v Speaker 2>Hadasa Waxman.

1:33:24.400 --> 1:33:29.560
<v Speaker 3>I bet a jew. I wouldn't bet against you on

1:33:29.640 --> 1:33:32.760
<v Speaker 3>that one, Hadasa. I do like that.

1:33:33.080 --> 1:33:37.120
<v Speaker 2>I know someone of the Pomeranian named Hadassa, and pretty fun.

1:33:37.240 --> 1:33:40.920
<v Speaker 1>It was the name of Sarah Silverman's puppet on Crank Anchors,

1:33:41.000 --> 1:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't it.

1:33:41.760 --> 1:33:43.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. That's a big.

1:33:45.560 --> 1:33:47.760
<v Speaker 2>She said to The New York Times that he communicated

1:33:47.800 --> 1:33:50.879
<v Speaker 2>with three co conspirators about his plans, like I mentioned earlier,

1:33:51.160 --> 1:33:53.639
<v Speaker 2>to commit this crime, and even used a police car

1:33:53.800 --> 1:33:57.240
<v Speaker 2>while in uniform to conduct surveillance of a woman. He

1:33:57.360 --> 1:34:00.639
<v Speaker 2>used the fucking National Crime Information Center to get information

1:34:00.720 --> 1:34:02.320
<v Speaker 2>on women, and he had files on at least one

1:34:02.360 --> 1:34:06.439
<v Speaker 2>hundred of these women, So fuck off. Judge Henry Pittman

1:34:06.479 --> 1:34:08.960
<v Speaker 2>denied him bail, and like in the episode, has attorney

1:34:09.040 --> 1:34:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Julia Gado, but she was a public defender argued it's

1:34:13.200 --> 1:34:16.000
<v Speaker 2>all talk and according to Ruters, there's no actual crossing

1:34:16.040 --> 1:34:19.479
<v Speaker 2>the line from fantasy to reality, your honor, but there was.

1:34:19.560 --> 1:34:22.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he searched online for methods, used the database

1:34:22.479 --> 1:34:26.599
<v Speaker 2>to collective info on victims, and was conducting surveillance. So

1:34:26.800 --> 1:34:30.200
<v Speaker 2>the Manhattan Federal prosecutor, like I said, Jadasa told the

1:34:30.280 --> 1:34:33.479
<v Speaker 2>judge that, like damn, he came as close as he

1:34:33.520 --> 1:34:37.160
<v Speaker 2>possibly could come short of kidnapping a woman, drugging her

1:34:37.240 --> 1:34:40.880
<v Speaker 2>and cooking her and actually eating her, Like excuse me,

1:34:43.560 --> 1:34:47.000
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck are you talking about? Like what do

1:34:47.080 --> 1:34:49.840
<v Speaker 2>you actually want him to do? He used his job

1:34:49.920 --> 1:34:53.000
<v Speaker 2>to get secret information on women that he wants to cook, Like,

1:34:53.680 --> 1:34:55.880
<v Speaker 2>fuck you, what do you want of him?

1:34:55.920 --> 1:34:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay? So, and he knew some of the women, like

1:34:59.160 --> 1:34:59.880
<v Speaker 3>he and his wife.

1:35:00.000 --> 1:35:02.639
<v Speaker 2>I went to visit one of these call old college friends,

1:35:02.640 --> 1:35:05.000
<v Speaker 2>and he wrote about her. When I see her Sunday,

1:35:05.040 --> 1:35:06.440
<v Speaker 2>my mouth will be watering.

1:35:07.200 --> 1:35:07.880
<v Speaker 3>And he wrote that.

1:35:08.520 --> 1:35:11.720
<v Speaker 2>He wrote that three days before the brunch, and then

1:35:11.760 --> 1:35:15.240
<v Speaker 2>he wrote eyeing her from head to toe and longed

1:35:15.240 --> 1:35:18.040
<v Speaker 2>for the day I can cram a chloroform soaked rag

1:35:18.120 --> 1:35:18.839
<v Speaker 2>in her face.

1:35:19.600 --> 1:35:21.720
<v Speaker 3>New York Times.

1:35:22.360 --> 1:35:24.040
<v Speaker 2>And like I said, googled how to abducts a girl,

1:35:24.040 --> 1:35:27.680
<v Speaker 2>how to chloroform a girl that's planning. He was convicted

1:35:27.720 --> 1:35:30.360
<v Speaker 2>of kidnapping conspiracy in March twenty thirteen.

1:35:30.600 --> 1:35:33.360
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, he was, I mean, you're not gonna be okay.

1:35:33.400 --> 1:35:35.960
<v Speaker 2>So then he was fired from the police department upon

1:35:36.040 --> 1:35:40.400
<v Speaker 2>his conviction, which I'm actually shocked about. And then the

1:35:40.479 --> 1:35:44.519
<v Speaker 2>United States Attorney in Manhattan, pre Bahara, said, the jury

1:35:44.880 --> 1:35:48.479
<v Speaker 2>of six men six women unanimously found that he mister

1:35:48.560 --> 1:35:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Valley's detail and specific plans to abduct women for the

1:35:50.960 --> 1:35:53.960
<v Speaker 2>purpose of committing grotesque crimes was very real, and that's

1:35:53.960 --> 1:35:56.840
<v Speaker 2>The New York Times also found guilty of illegally gaining

1:35:56.880 --> 1:36:01.000
<v Speaker 2>access to a law enforcement database. He thinks nothing ever

1:36:01.160 --> 1:36:05.240
<v Speaker 2>left the internet, so nothing happened to anyone, Okay. So

1:36:05.320 --> 1:36:08.800
<v Speaker 2>then the summer of twenty fourteen, the officer's conviction is overturned.

1:36:11.240 --> 1:36:13.800
<v Speaker 2>The federal judge said there was not sufficient evidence to

1:36:13.880 --> 1:36:14.439
<v Speaker 2>support it.

1:36:15.280 --> 1:36:15.680
<v Speaker 3>Paul G.

1:36:15.960 --> 1:36:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Gardefi, the federal he's the judge in the Federal District

1:36:20.400 --> 1:36:23.519
<v Speaker 2>Court of Manhattan, acquitted him on the serious count of

1:36:23.600 --> 1:36:27.200
<v Speaker 2>kidnapping and conspiracy, which was like, that's what gives you

1:36:27.240 --> 1:36:30.800
<v Speaker 2>the life in prison. He just said that the prosecution

1:36:30.960 --> 1:36:33.719
<v Speaker 2>did not demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt that he entered

1:36:33.760 --> 1:36:36.360
<v Speaker 2>into a genuine agreement to kidnap a woman, or that

1:36:36.439 --> 1:36:40.560
<v Speaker 2>he specifically intended to commit a kidnapping the times The

1:36:40.680 --> 1:36:44.280
<v Speaker 2>judge did, however, uphold Valley's conviction on the second count

1:36:44.280 --> 1:36:47.720
<v Speaker 2>of illegally gaining access to the database, which carries just

1:36:47.880 --> 1:36:51.040
<v Speaker 2>a max of one year sentence. He got like one

1:36:51.080 --> 1:36:53.280
<v Speaker 2>year of probation and needs to continue to get mental

1:36:53.320 --> 1:36:56.040
<v Speaker 2>health treatment. He can't contact the women involved in the case,

1:36:56.040 --> 1:36:59.160
<v Speaker 2>and he can't visit any fetish websites. He was also

1:36:59.280 --> 1:37:02.400
<v Speaker 2>given like house, but he had already served twenty one

1:37:02.400 --> 1:37:04.519
<v Speaker 2>months in prison during this time, during all these courts

1:37:04.560 --> 1:37:06.240
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, he like wasn't a lot of bail and

1:37:06.320 --> 1:37:09.840
<v Speaker 2>so and then seven of those months were in solitary confinement,

1:37:10.720 --> 1:37:12.920
<v Speaker 2>and so all of that was counted as time served.

1:37:14.200 --> 1:37:15.519
<v Speaker 3>And oh my god.

1:37:15.880 --> 1:37:17.840
<v Speaker 2>And another fun little fact that while he was on

1:37:17.880 --> 1:37:19.880
<v Speaker 2>the inside, he became the prison cook.

1:37:19.920 --> 1:37:24.320
<v Speaker 3>He was a cook in prison. No he's read no,

1:37:26.200 --> 1:37:26.920
<v Speaker 3>oh man.

1:37:28.280 --> 1:37:31.360
<v Speaker 2>The government appealed and wanted the conviction to be reinstated,

1:37:31.400 --> 1:37:33.320
<v Speaker 2>but they lost in the US Court of Appeals on

1:37:33.360 --> 1:37:37.280
<v Speaker 2>December third, twenty fifteen, and they upheld Vale's acquito Valley's acquittal,

1:37:38.000 --> 1:37:40.479
<v Speaker 2>and he just kept being like, I'm not capable of violence.

1:37:40.560 --> 1:37:43.280
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't hurt anyone. You're a cop with a gun

1:37:43.320 --> 1:37:44.799
<v Speaker 2>and a baton. What are you talking about?

1:37:45.320 --> 1:37:49.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Have you literally not trained to commit violence against someone?

1:37:49.240 --> 1:37:49.800
<v Speaker 3>If you have to?

1:37:50.000 --> 1:37:53.439
<v Speaker 2>I have a non consequential detail for my research. So

1:37:53.479 --> 1:37:57.839
<v Speaker 2>his you know, his mom is a boy mom, Elizabeth Valley,

1:37:58.160 --> 1:38:03.360
<v Speaker 2>and in The New York Times wrote about her, she

1:38:03.479 --> 1:38:06.120
<v Speaker 2>picked crumbs of pound cake that she has been eating

1:38:06.200 --> 1:38:08.280
<v Speaker 2>off her skirt before the hearing began.

1:38:08.720 --> 1:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>And I just think that's like us so Gray painting

1:38:13.160 --> 1:38:16.720
<v Speaker 1>a picture. This is the kind of journalism you can

1:38:16.800 --> 1:38:21.920
<v Speaker 1>kiss goodbye. And the new regime everyone.

1:38:21.760 --> 1:38:23.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just fucking love it.

1:38:24.760 --> 1:38:28.280
<v Speaker 2>As of twenty nineteen, he worked in construction, but he's

1:38:28.320 --> 1:38:32.000
<v Speaker 2>not happy about it. And now here's a twist, all right,

1:38:32.240 --> 1:38:38.639
<v Speaker 2>case serre listening. He writes extreme horror novels. What yeah,

1:38:39.280 --> 1:38:41.920
<v Speaker 2>So if you wanna, I have okay, So then if

1:38:41.960 --> 1:38:44.360
<v Speaker 2>you want to read his novel, So there's one and

1:38:44.400 --> 1:38:47.400
<v Speaker 2>the cover is a tied up, bloody woman and it's

1:38:47.439 --> 1:38:50.880
<v Speaker 2>called a Gathering of Evil, Evil, Gathering of Evil and

1:38:51.000 --> 1:38:55.280
<v Speaker 2>was optioned in twenty nineteen for a movie. It's gut

1:38:55.360 --> 1:39:00.439
<v Speaker 2>churning according to Goodreads lol, and it's about violent, wealthy

1:39:00.520 --> 1:39:03.519
<v Speaker 2>sadists that meet online through the dark Web and then

1:39:03.560 --> 1:39:08.439
<v Speaker 2>turn their twisted fantasies into realities. The hunt is on, well,

1:39:08.479 --> 1:39:11.920
<v Speaker 2>the Praise Survive, The Gathering of Evil and the Prey

1:39:12.000 --> 1:39:15.679
<v Speaker 2>is you know, two women, and his good Reads bio

1:39:16.080 --> 1:39:19.120
<v Speaker 2>he goes, listen, I was wrongfully arrested, and it's like,

1:39:19.160 --> 1:39:22.719
<v Speaker 2>you were found guilty. You did, you were found guilty

1:39:22.800 --> 1:39:25.719
<v Speaker 2>of something you did use a database at your job wrongly.

1:39:27.360 --> 1:39:30.360
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, he has a memoir called Raw Deal, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he also has a sequel to Gathering of Evil.

1:39:33.400 --> 1:39:37.559
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why I can't say evil Avail.

1:39:40.360 --> 1:39:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Gathering of the social catalog of Prey. And

1:39:46.680 --> 1:39:49.760
<v Speaker 2>he's like a guest at Crime Con and Killer Core

1:39:49.960 --> 1:39:52.400
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, and I think he's doing fine. And if

1:39:52.400 --> 1:39:55.559
<v Speaker 2>you want to watch a film, there's something called Thought

1:39:55.640 --> 1:39:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Crimes where he is featured heavily.

1:39:59.000 --> 1:40:00.479
<v Speaker 3>I think it was HBO or something.

1:40:01.040 --> 1:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think I heard of the HBO. Is

1:40:03.960 --> 1:40:04.720
<v Speaker 1>it it's a doc?

1:40:05.479 --> 1:40:07.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Yeah, it's a dock because he's like

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<v Speaker 3>being in a kid what the fuck?

1:40:11.400 --> 1:40:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Yeah, they're so similar, but this is this

1:40:14.800 --> 1:40:17.280
<v Speaker 1>one is like, yeah, there's no fucking torture room, but

1:40:17.320 --> 1:40:19.080
<v Speaker 1>this one's worse because it's like a cop with all

1:40:19.120 --> 1:40:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the access.

1:40:20.439 --> 1:40:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he should have gotten more than a year. I

1:40:22.760 --> 1:40:25.479
<v Speaker 2>guess he was inside for twenty one months, but like

1:40:27.479 --> 1:40:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Oh my god, I think misusing your

1:40:32.040 --> 1:40:34.280
<v Speaker 2>power as a cop to look at files you shouldn't

1:40:34.280 --> 1:40:37.479
<v Speaker 2>look at should give you more time. Yeah, but also

1:40:37.600 --> 1:40:39.639
<v Speaker 2>the co conspirators, did they get charged?

1:40:39.680 --> 1:40:42.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, there's like a lot of questions.

1:40:42.640 --> 1:40:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I really feel like I've been like like I feel

1:40:45.000 --> 1:40:46.559
<v Speaker 2>like I'm having an Elwoods moment.

1:40:47.560 --> 1:40:49.360
<v Speaker 3>Why the sperm? Why? Now?

1:40:50.479 --> 1:40:53.519
<v Speaker 2>I've really been unlocked in a huge way with this

1:40:53.640 --> 1:40:54.479
<v Speaker 2>Luigi trial.

1:40:55.400 --> 1:40:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna unlock? You know that it unlocks the

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<v Speaker 1>ammonia clyglothelate.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't say what the thing?

1:41:02.280 --> 1:41:06.519
<v Speaker 2>I can't. I can't. I can't even try to say it.

1:41:07.160 --> 1:41:09.080
<v Speaker 2>And you know what, now that we finished, I'm so

1:41:09.240 --> 1:41:11.679
<v Speaker 2>hungry and I have half the sandwich in my fridge,

1:41:11.760 --> 1:41:12.680
<v Speaker 2>like wow.

1:41:13.040 --> 1:41:16.479
<v Speaker 1>Ready to go? And he tried to have you're allowed

1:41:16.479 --> 1:41:18.040
<v Speaker 1>to eat a sandwich. You're not allowed to eat a

1:41:18.040 --> 1:41:19.280
<v Speaker 1>woman that you cooked at low temp.

1:41:20.560 --> 1:41:22.120
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe I read all that, and I'm like,

1:41:22.160 --> 1:41:24.479
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to eat this bacon sandwich, Like I'm

1:41:24.520 --> 1:41:25.719
<v Speaker 2>truly about to eat bacon.

1:41:26.160 --> 1:41:29.439
<v Speaker 3>Serious, truly about to eat bacon. Oh my god.

1:41:29.680 --> 1:41:31.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, we don't have a guest, so we're just gonna

1:41:31.600 --> 1:41:33.920
<v Speaker 1>pop right into the post mortem.

1:41:37.960 --> 1:41:38.760
<v Speaker 3>Thought criminal.

1:41:39.000 --> 1:41:41.840
<v Speaker 2>It is a thinker. I like when it's open ended.

1:41:42.400 --> 1:41:46.879
<v Speaker 2>I mean, no, he's beat up soon, but I.

1:41:46.920 --> 1:41:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Like, I mean, I don't think Amaro beating him up

1:41:49.960 --> 1:41:52.559
<v Speaker 1>is gonna stop him. He's gonna like heel up and

1:41:52.600 --> 1:41:55.599
<v Speaker 1>like start back on his quest to find I mean,

1:41:56.000 --> 1:41:58.280
<v Speaker 1>that guy probably eventually moves out of the city and

1:41:58.320 --> 1:42:01.000
<v Speaker 1>goes somewhere where he can like easily and torture kids

1:42:01.040 --> 1:42:06.320
<v Speaker 1>without being so under the microscope now that the NYPD

1:42:06.400 --> 1:42:08.880
<v Speaker 1>has his number, or really actually do it.

1:42:08.960 --> 1:42:10.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, you want to go to jail? What

1:42:10.840 --> 1:42:11.720
<v Speaker 3>you have brought a kid in?

1:42:12.040 --> 1:42:14.880
<v Speaker 2>They arrested too early to like make this point of

1:42:14.920 --> 1:42:17.880
<v Speaker 2>an episode, But in terms of police work, I feel

1:42:17.920 --> 1:42:20.280
<v Speaker 2>like they would have waited and like set up a

1:42:20.320 --> 1:42:23.800
<v Speaker 2>fake kid, you know, like right, like god, ur yeah,

1:42:23.880 --> 1:42:26.200
<v Speaker 2>they had more evidence and like built up a case

1:42:26.640 --> 1:42:29.240
<v Speaker 2>like right, Yeah, that's that's my guess if it was

1:42:29.280 --> 1:42:33.680
<v Speaker 2>real life. Yeah, because they usually like whenever they've done stings,

1:42:33.720 --> 1:42:35.840
<v Speaker 2>they're like, oh, you can't, like if it's one of

1:42:35.880 --> 1:42:38.000
<v Speaker 2>the ladies, like dressing up as a sex worker, it's

1:42:38.080 --> 1:42:40.160
<v Speaker 2>like you can't do anything until they show money or

1:42:40.240 --> 1:42:42.920
<v Speaker 2>like whatever. You know, Like there's always like I wonder

1:42:42.920 --> 1:42:46.280
<v Speaker 2>if I wonder how stings work with like kids though,

1:42:46.439 --> 1:42:48.760
<v Speaker 2>like if you could get like if there's ever like

1:42:48.800 --> 1:42:50.639
<v Speaker 2>a nine year old or something that they can get,

1:42:50.680 --> 1:42:51.760
<v Speaker 2>well you but.

1:42:52.040 --> 1:42:53.720
<v Speaker 3>Just the money has to be exchanged.

1:42:53.800 --> 1:42:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the photos speaking like that, you don't need to

1:42:56.360 --> 1:42:59.439
<v Speaker 2>bring in a kid or you bring in you know

1:42:59.479 --> 1:43:00.600
<v Speaker 2>that girl, what is it?

1:43:00.680 --> 1:43:01.519
<v Speaker 3>Turner syndrome?

1:43:01.680 --> 1:43:05.880
<v Speaker 1>You get, you get you get someone to Turner syndrome exactly.

1:43:07.439 --> 1:43:10.200
<v Speaker 3>Episode. But what were you do? You had something?

1:43:10.280 --> 1:43:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Ye know?

1:43:10.800 --> 1:43:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually because like because of this show, you know,

1:43:13.720 --> 1:43:18.040
<v Speaker 2>it's like you know, I'm always looking for what's going on.

1:43:18.800 --> 1:43:23.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I'm suspicious. But basically I was out with people,

1:43:24.200 --> 1:43:27.120
<v Speaker 1>but three of us girls were waiting for a car,

1:43:28.200 --> 1:43:31.240
<v Speaker 1>and our guy friend just went by and started walking

1:43:31.280 --> 1:43:33.080
<v Speaker 1>away and didn't wait for us to get in our ubers,

1:43:33.120 --> 1:43:35.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like livid and I'm gonna have a talk.

1:43:35.520 --> 1:43:38.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm like pissed. I'm like, I, yeah, what are you doing?

1:43:38.920 --> 1:43:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Why would you just I'm like, I have actually not

1:43:40.840 --> 1:43:45.600
<v Speaker 2>one friend in my life any gender that would do that. Yeah,

1:43:45.680 --> 1:43:47.840
<v Speaker 2>you wait for the people with the ubers to leave

1:43:47.880 --> 1:43:48.439
<v Speaker 2>if you live close.

1:43:48.520 --> 1:43:51.240
<v Speaker 3>Like what are we doing here? Yeah that's so true.

1:43:51.720 --> 1:43:53.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean I'm always the last.

1:43:52.760 --> 1:43:55.240
<v Speaker 1>To leave, so like, I yeah, I feel like I

1:43:55.280 --> 1:43:55.920
<v Speaker 1>wait for people.

1:43:56.600 --> 1:43:59.679
<v Speaker 3>But that's yeah, I'm pissed. You got to give a talk.

1:43:59.720 --> 1:44:04.919
<v Speaker 3>He's going to get a talk. He's getting a talk anyway.

1:44:05.120 --> 1:44:07.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't know this was a good actor.

1:44:07.400 --> 1:44:09.720
<v Speaker 2>The wife's a dumb bitch, Like why are people so

1:44:09.960 --> 1:44:13.960
<v Speaker 2>lenient with pedophilia and torture? Like and like even if

1:44:13.960 --> 1:44:17.360
<v Speaker 2>he didn't have a body of a body victim, I

1:44:17.800 --> 1:44:20.320
<v Speaker 2>don't you think a torture room would be grounds for divorce?

1:44:21.560 --> 1:44:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Like is that how desperate the state of the world is?

1:44:23.920 --> 1:44:27.040
<v Speaker 2>You're just you listen, it's a torture room. It's fine.

1:44:27.160 --> 1:44:28.080
<v Speaker 2>What are we doing here?

1:44:28.160 --> 1:44:28.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1:44:28.400 --> 1:44:28.599
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1:44:28.680 --> 1:44:31.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like it's because I want to know did she

1:44:31.560 --> 1:44:33.679
<v Speaker 1>know about the torture room? And if that's you finding

1:44:33.680 --> 1:44:35.639
<v Speaker 1>out for the first time or you're not, like okay,

1:44:35.640 --> 1:44:37.959
<v Speaker 1>but honey, I think you spent like a million dollars

1:44:38.040 --> 1:44:40.680
<v Speaker 1>on your hobby and didn't tell me anything, like on

1:44:40.760 --> 1:44:43.240
<v Speaker 1>your fantasy or whatever you're calling it, you know, like

1:44:44.120 --> 1:44:47.200
<v Speaker 1>so and to show up in court every single day

1:44:47.520 --> 1:44:51.240
<v Speaker 1>to support Now she's something she's pilled up or something

1:44:51.640 --> 1:44:52.599
<v Speaker 1>she's not following.

1:44:52.800 --> 1:44:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, she reminds me of Martin Schwart's wife in that episode.

1:44:56.200 --> 1:45:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Sebastian, Yeah, yeah, she's like he loves.

1:45:01.680 --> 1:45:05.639
<v Speaker 3>Me, but yeah, good fucked up.

1:45:05.960 --> 1:45:10.599
<v Speaker 1>But like again, now that we have this shitty government

1:45:10.600 --> 1:45:13.439
<v Speaker 1>for the next four years, it does make me wonder

1:45:13.680 --> 1:45:17.960
<v Speaker 1>like what kind of stuff Not obviously to the point

1:45:17.960 --> 1:45:20.439
<v Speaker 1>of making a torture room, but I don't know. This

1:45:20.560 --> 1:45:23.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing makes you think about, like what can

1:45:23.120 --> 1:45:26.160
<v Speaker 1>you be get in trouble for saying or thinking or

1:45:26.200 --> 1:45:28.880
<v Speaker 1>like you're you're if you're putting out weird shit on

1:45:28.920 --> 1:45:31.040
<v Speaker 1>the internet, Like I think he's gonna fucking punish people

1:45:31.080 --> 1:45:33.120
<v Speaker 1>that are writing shit on the internet. So I'm like,

1:45:33.640 --> 1:45:35.840
<v Speaker 1>we are about to be punished for thought crime soon.

1:45:36.800 --> 1:45:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Maybe allegedly he's fucking rich loser dorks and the men

1:45:42.880 --> 1:45:47.160
<v Speaker 1>who have such a warped idea of well, I didn't

1:45:47.200 --> 1:45:49.120
<v Speaker 1>watch I didn't watch any of the podcast you saw.

1:45:49.200 --> 1:45:54.240
<v Speaker 3>Jeff Ross was at the inauguration. He was, yeah, I

1:45:54.280 --> 1:45:54.720
<v Speaker 3>mean I.

1:45:54.760 --> 1:46:00.160
<v Speaker 2>Followed I should have a long time ago, Like yeah.

1:45:58.960 --> 1:46:00.639
<v Speaker 3>That means I can't go to his How any morny

1:46:00.680 --> 1:46:02.679
<v Speaker 3>is such a nice pool, forget it. I'm not going.

1:46:03.280 --> 1:46:06.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, It's like the line needs to be drawn

1:46:06.520 --> 1:46:08.759
<v Speaker 2>because we're gonna be seen as crazy. Like I already

1:46:08.760 --> 1:46:11.400
<v Speaker 2>saw this podcast that I really like the two guys

1:46:11.439 --> 1:46:14.080
<v Speaker 2>being like, stop, you don't get Carrie Underwood, like what

1:46:14.400 --> 1:46:17.080
<v Speaker 2>like you would say no if the sitting president asks

1:46:17.120 --> 1:46:18.920
<v Speaker 2>for an interview, you do it. It's a it's a

1:46:18.960 --> 1:46:21.640
<v Speaker 2>bucketless thing. Why are you blaming people? And it's like

1:46:21.680 --> 1:46:24.320
<v Speaker 2>I would never sit down with a psychopath like that,

1:46:24.439 --> 1:46:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Like no, stop saying that. Stop normalizing it. And they're

1:46:26.880 --> 1:46:30.920
<v Speaker 2>making us seem alarmist and wild and how everything is normal,

1:46:31.000 --> 1:46:34.080
<v Speaker 2>like oh you're And it's like, no, making this seem

1:46:34.120 --> 1:46:36.759
<v Speaker 2>normal or not a big deal or business as usual

1:46:36.920 --> 1:46:40.000
<v Speaker 2>is the craziest thing of all, and that we can't

1:46:40.080 --> 1:46:41.200
<v Speaker 2>let them gaslight us.

1:46:41.880 --> 1:46:43.760
<v Speaker 3>My My one cool.

1:46:43.479 --> 1:46:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Thing is I get to go on stage all the

1:46:45.200 --> 1:46:47.760
<v Speaker 2>time and there's people from other places and I get

1:46:47.760 --> 1:46:48.639
<v Speaker 2>to say crazy shit.

1:46:49.040 --> 1:46:51.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you get it. That is good

1:46:51.720 --> 1:46:54.599
<v Speaker 1>your help. Maybe you're changing anybody's mind.

1:46:54.600 --> 1:46:55.639
<v Speaker 3>I know they probably go.

1:46:55.680 --> 1:46:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Back home and go we we need to we need

1:46:57.960 --> 1:46:59.320
<v Speaker 2>we need to put leashes on the women.

1:46:59.400 --> 1:46:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Put it in.

1:47:01.360 --> 1:47:03.200
<v Speaker 1>But there's a comedy in New York. They let him

1:47:03.240 --> 1:47:05.640
<v Speaker 1>talk into mics. We got to stop this before it

1:47:05.680 --> 1:47:08.479
<v Speaker 1>gets here. But there was so there's a comic.

1:47:08.560 --> 1:47:11.880
<v Speaker 2>You know this is but they do more like more music,

1:47:11.920 --> 1:47:14.400
<v Speaker 2>so like they do kind of sing songy crowd or

1:47:14.439 --> 1:47:16.920
<v Speaker 2>like it's kind of a show. It's you know, it's different.

1:47:16.920 --> 1:47:19.080
<v Speaker 2>And they were he was like, oh, how's the crowd?

1:47:19.080 --> 1:47:21.800
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, honey, I don't we do different things.

1:47:21.800 --> 1:47:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I just told him I want rich people's blood in

1:47:23.400 --> 1:47:25.559
<v Speaker 2>the street. It's like, I think you'll be fine with

1:47:25.640 --> 1:47:29.760
<v Speaker 2>your callin callin. Think you and your ukulele will be fine. Yeah,

1:47:31.880 --> 1:47:34.400
<v Speaker 2>but people liked it. I don't know, but I think

1:47:34.479 --> 1:47:36.880
<v Speaker 2>that's like all I have until my voice is taken

1:47:36.920 --> 1:47:39.840
<v Speaker 2>away is how I feel. And I'm privileged, Like it's

1:47:39.880 --> 1:47:42.439
<v Speaker 2>not like I'm gonna be I'm not first under attack,

1:47:42.640 --> 1:47:44.720
<v Speaker 2>but we have to be like there for all the

1:47:44.760 --> 1:47:46.240
<v Speaker 2>people that are so vulnerable right now.

1:47:46.640 --> 1:47:49.800
<v Speaker 3>But obviously I'm scared for my future too. Yeah.

1:47:50.000 --> 1:47:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, totally, and I'm scared I will be uh silenced.

1:47:55.200 --> 1:47:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't watch any of it because I was just like,

1:47:57.080 --> 1:47:59.360
<v Speaker 1>I can't. My kids accidentally turned on the cable and

1:47:59.479 --> 1:48:01.320
<v Speaker 1>it was on. I was like, get this off the TV.

1:48:01.800 --> 1:48:03.640
<v Speaker 1>So I was like not watching any of it. But

1:48:03.760 --> 1:48:06.680
<v Speaker 1>then I did see obviously the Hyle Hitler and all

1:48:06.720 --> 1:48:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the comments underneath on CNN were like, oh my god,

1:48:09.560 --> 1:48:11.559
<v Speaker 1>you guys will come up with anything. Just what you're saying,

1:48:11.680 --> 1:48:14.840
<v Speaker 1>like gaslighting, acting like that's not what he's doing. And

1:48:16.080 --> 1:48:21.160
<v Speaker 1>then like also just the fact that the four tech

1:48:21.280 --> 1:48:25.040
<v Speaker 1>billionaires were in front of the cabinet members. They're upfront,

1:48:25.280 --> 1:48:27.120
<v Speaker 1>they're in front of the people that he's chosen to

1:48:27.200 --> 1:48:30.880
<v Speaker 1>lead the country is besos and whatever, all the if

1:48:31.040 --> 1:48:33.640
<v Speaker 1>the Google guy and Musk and all of them, like

1:48:33.760 --> 1:48:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and Zuckerberg, what a fucking fuck.

1:48:36.439 --> 1:48:36.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

1:48:37.160 --> 1:48:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's, uh, we're gonna do our best the

1:48:40.160 --> 1:48:42.200
<v Speaker 1>next four years, but I don't fucking know what's happening.

1:48:42.439 --> 1:48:45.560
<v Speaker 3>Uh should we get into our what would sister peg do?

1:48:46.600 --> 1:48:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Sure?

1:48:46.880 --> 1:48:48.160
<v Speaker 3>Should we jump off a bridge?

1:48:48.240 --> 1:48:48.400
<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>I did like the Obama clip of him going what

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<v Speaker 2>can we do to stop this? There was Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>said it to George Bush when he walked on there

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<v Speaker 2>and he was like, hey, what's up, like you know

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<v Speaker 2>the deaf girl?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so she uh so, she was like that. She

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<v Speaker 3>said that Obama said what can we do to stop this?

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<v Speaker 2>Or I wish there's something we could do to stop this,

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<v Speaker 2>and like George giggled a little, you know, well I

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<v Speaker 2>just saw a clip of Jenna Bush or yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 2>the one on the Good Morning America or without with Hoda.

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<v Speaker 2>So she said that she told Ben Stiller during his

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<v Speaker 2>severance press that her mom's favorite movie is Zoolander. Barbara

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<v Speaker 2>Bush's favorite movie is Zoolander. That's hilarious, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Barbara is George's mom. Yeah, Laura Bush, Laura Bush, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Laura Bush. She said, like, that's hilarious. That's even more

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<v Speaker 1>funny to me.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes going around in circle people were like talking

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<v Speaker 2>about movies and shash and she said she recently went Zoolander.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder who's going to take over for Hoda or you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know right now they have such good people because in

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<v Speaker 2>my head, I'm like Michelle Buteau. Yeah, would she want

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<v Speaker 2>that but she's about to be in a movie, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, I don't know. I'll text her try

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<v Speaker 2>to get some gos out of her.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to be up at like four three am

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<v Speaker 1>every day, but then you're done, but then you're with

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<v Speaker 1>your kids and you're done. But she's also a workaholic,

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<v Speaker 1>so she would still probably do stand up and figure

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<v Speaker 1>out time how to film.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wonder if she'd want something that daily or

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<v Speaker 2>like coming in and out. I loved I loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you you obviously saw this, but just in case

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<v Speaker 1>she did this, Like interview with Hoda where she was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how when she worked at Channel four, which

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<v Speaker 1>is New York NBC local affiliate, she was editing tapes.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't even know Michelle did that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have like similar experiences with people at NBC,

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<v Speaker 1>like when I was a page, Like Hoda was so

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<v Speaker 1>nice to me when I worked on the Today Show

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<v Speaker 1>at the Olympics, and I was just like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is so sweet that like someone's telling her how nice

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<v Speaker 1>she was to like the little people who like, quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote don't matter because we were bottom. I was, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I was a PA runner at the Olympics, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to be nice to me, but she

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<v Speaker 1>was really nice. But so was Matt Lauer. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes all kinds. Uh, let's get into our web

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<v Speaker 1>with sister peg do. Oh my god, I can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't talk about this. We got to edit it

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<v Speaker 1>into the beginning, I feel.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we'll do it.

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<v Speaker 2>This will be for the people that really fucking listen

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<v Speaker 2>to the end. Okay, hopefully all of you. Okay. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to this guy that like works within a

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<v Speaker 2>spa whatever. So I'm like talking to someone mutuals mutuals,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's like a gathering bonding over Simpson stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>then this person walks away that I've had probably a

1:51:37.280 --> 1:51:41.400
<v Speaker 2>twenty minute great conversation with and they tell me, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know that he's punched a woman? And I go,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that, and then they go, yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 2>also served a year in prison for stabbing someone, and

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<v Speaker 2>I go wow.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I was thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>About like a few weeks prior, I was in a

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<v Speaker 2>little tussle with someone and they were like, I know predators.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not a predator.

1:51:59.479 --> 1:52:02.080
<v Speaker 2>He's not a Like you really don't know, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like I couldn't believe that I had this moment of

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<v Speaker 2>just like chatting and enjoying someone's company and being like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, you recently punched a woman in the

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<v Speaker 2>face and then you did stab someone.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do believe in like, you know, rehabilitation and

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<v Speaker 3>certain right.

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<v Speaker 1>But but he pled he pled out to the punching

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<v Speaker 1>and went, yeah, he pled out for the punch.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, did you know he's punched a woman?

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<v Speaker 1>I did not.

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<v Speaker 3>That is like wow, wow, wow wow. Yeah, it is hard.

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<v Speaker 2>It's if it was just the punching or the stabbing

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<v Speaker 2>and there was like more, I don't know, it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>to have both them. Like I don't think we could

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the Simpsons again. I know, I think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna step back from this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm gonna take a big step back, but wish

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<v Speaker 1>you well in your uh, you know, recovery and back

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<v Speaker 1>to or what not not.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, reintroduction into post incarceration. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like I don't want people to go back to prison.

1:52:59.200 --> 1:53:01.200
<v Speaker 1>But I'm also like, wow, you punch, you punched a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But but then I'm thinking about all these firefighters and

1:53:05.280 --> 1:53:07.760
<v Speaker 2>how I want them out, but yeah, a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's more robbery, Like you can't be a

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<v Speaker 2>firefighter if you assault it like sexual assault.

1:53:14.479 --> 1:53:17.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like there was no rape firefighter, Like I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking, it wasn't even like violent defenses at all, Like

1:53:20.280 --> 1:53:22.880
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't even be assault or battery or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, well, honestly I'd love the update on the

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<v Speaker 1>next time you run into this person.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Then this person's like, make sure you tell nobody, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, for sure, for sure, Yeah on the pod,

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<v Speaker 2>Hey listeners, Hey, best guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So for what was mister Peg our weekly segment

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<v Speaker 1>where we direct you towards. Usually we direct you towards

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<v Speaker 1>like blogs, articles, books, docs about what happened in today's episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and today I thought, if you're interested in more information

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<v Speaker 1>about this case, you can go check out Thought Crimes,

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<v Speaker 1>The Case of the Cannibal Cop. It's on Max right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But for our what would sister Peg, I would like

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<v Speaker 1>what we talked about in the intro and outro that

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, Trump kicked off his presidency by declaring

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