1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: right now. Appreciates you being with us. Just an update here. 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: We are following closely events in the Hill Country of 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Texas or west of San Antonio, with these horrible floods 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: that I've taken now at least ninety lives I believe, 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: or close to ninety lives with the latest count. 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: We are following us closer. 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: We're going to talk to Congressmanship Roy this is his 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: district that got hit so badly by the flash floods, 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: and we'll talk to him about what's going on in 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: the rescue, search and rescue operations, and also look into 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: could this have been mitigated. I think prevented is unlikely, 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: but mitigated meaning less awful than it was under the circumstances. 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: We'll discuss that with him, and also maybe a little 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: bit of the people that are politicizing this. It's so 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: beneath contempt and so just so grotesque that I don't 17 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: know how much time we really should spend on it, Clay, 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: because anybody who says things like, well, this is a 19 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: maga area. I know there was a doctor who got fired, 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: I just yeah, it's people it's awful. I think in general, 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: when disaster happens, Okay, I'm talking about the disaster itself, 22 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: it is almost impossible to argue, Hey, this person is 23 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: responsible for this disaster. Right, I'm talking about natural disaster. 24 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: Where it is fair, I think to talk is when 25 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: the government doesn't respond, when the government doesn't respond rapidly 26 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: to take care of people, when FEMA does a poor job, 27 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: that's that's a reality. Right At some point that conversation 28 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: is real. I think responde hits flood hits, and you're like, oh, 29 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: this is the president's fault, or it's a senator's fault, 30 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: or it's a voter's fault. I mean the little girls 31 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: who were at that camp. They didn't vote in the 32 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty fourth. When girls at summer camp and if 33 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: kids die, and your thought is this is a political thing, 34 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: I want to respond to it immediately. You need to 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: look at your shore. There's something deeply, there's something you did, 36 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: something broken inside, no question. So hey, we're following this 37 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: close that We've updated you to the best of our 38 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: knowledge about what's going on right now, still search and 39 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: rescue efforts. We can also get to some more of 40 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: your calls on the back half of this hour if 41 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: you want to talk about things that were missed or 42 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: things that we need to know about, or you just 43 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: want to share your thoughts as a member of that 44 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: community we're taking. We have lines lit from people that 45 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: were effectively in the flood areas. Uh so we want 46 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: to hear from from you first and foremost on that. 47 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: I did want to because we've been off for a 48 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: few days, focus on some news stories that deal with 49 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: the economy and and what I think we can expect 50 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: here going forward. Another another moment of what we tell 51 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: you is going to happen generally happens on this show. 52 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: We said it about the Seawan Combs verdict, which is 53 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: very different than the big View a full bill situation. 54 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: But we said that, and we also said that, I mean, 55 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: I was basically ready as soon as the Center passed 56 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: the clay. I was like, yeah, it's basically a done deal. 57 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: And you correctly said, well, the House and then try, yeah, 58 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: I know, I know, but this is not really and 59 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: sure enough, yes, the process was. It went back to 60 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: the House, they didn't do anything. They passed the thing 61 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: as it was. Trump signed it on the big beautiful 62 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: Bill so it happened as we thought, and the objections 63 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: based on budgetary and spending issues, those did not actually 64 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: those did not materialize into anything that got really any 65 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: attention before the holiday. So Trump signed it, and here 66 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: we are. Now let's get into some of what happens 67 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: now on this, because I think this is I think 68 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: there's some important components of this, some aspects of this 69 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: that deserve us to drill in on a little bit. 70 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: First of all, you know Speaker Johnson saying that it's 71 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: going to be jet fuel for the economy. I think 72 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: we actually said exactly that here on the show, so 73 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: you know that that's can't disagree with that. I think 74 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: it's going to be incredibly powerful. The US is close 75 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: to a couple of trade deals that was being reported 76 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: on last night. Scott Best in the Treasury Secretary looking 77 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: at this clay. There is the tariff pause that Trump 78 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: put in place that ends next week. So the negotiating 79 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: period is coming to a terminus here, or at least 80 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: the negotiating period as set forth the last time around, 81 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: is coming to a point here. But the people that 82 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: have been saying that this is going to result in 83 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: disaster the whole time and it's all going to be 84 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: skyrocketing prices. They were wrong before, I think they're gonna 85 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: be wrong again. And I think we could get some 86 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: very big things, big things done here in terms of 87 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: trade in the days ahead. And I think Trump has 88 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: bought a lot of goodwill from people out there to 89 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: finish this negotiation because so far the econ he's been 90 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: doing really well, and the scary stuff about the trade 91 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: negotiations have not come to fruition at all. And I 92 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: think this is another example where expert opinion that in 93 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: some way, having tariffs put in place and negotiating these 94 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: trade deals, we're going to destroy the United States economy. 95 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: I mean, on Wednesday or Thursday, right before the July 96 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: fourth holiday, we were at an all time high in 97 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: the S and P five hundred stock market in general, 98 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: and we're still basically there now today. So look, is 99 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: it going to potentially come back a little bit, Yes, 100 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: But I think the doom and gloom the world is 101 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: going to collapse. Catastrophists have been proven wrong when it 102 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: comes to tariff negotiations and what the impact is going 103 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: to be going forward. 104 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 2: I just think they're wrong. 105 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean that there may not be challenges 106 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: ahead A can somewhat yes. Look to me, we talked 107 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: a lot about this on Wednesday or sorry, Tuesday. To me, 108 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: the pivot now that the big beautiful bill has passed 109 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: is growth, growth. 110 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: Growth. 111 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: The way that we are going to get our financial 112 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: house in order now is we have to get the 113 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: economy moving at higher than three percent level. Growth is 114 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: the best thing that can happen. Economic growth to start 115 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: to bring in way more revenue to start to balance 116 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: the budget. That's what's going to have to happen. And 117 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: the bill was imperfect, as all bills are. We talked 118 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: about this. A lot of people just don't want to 119 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:51,119 Speaker 1: address the reality of government spending and debts. There isn't 120 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: the political will to address it. Part of me, Buck, 121 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: I think I said this on the show, but part 122 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: of me feels like politicians are just going to be 123 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: fine with having to cut benefits because the math doesn't 124 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: add up, and they're just going to say, hey, the 125 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: math is what it is and avoid having to make 126 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: any decisions in advance, and then in twenty thirty three 127 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: or whatever the year is, they're just going to be 128 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: They're going to look at it and say, hey, everybody 129 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: gets seventy percent of what was promised because the money 130 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: isn't there, and we're sorry, but that's the reality, and 131 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: you have to deal with it because otherwise it would 132 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: require having real conversations about it, and it doesn't feel 133 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: like anybody wants to have a real conversation. We're just 134 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: kind of living in this magical era where what the 135 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: math shows us is going to happen down the line. 136 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: We're not going to acknowledge it until basically we're there. 137 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: You know, there are Democrats who are saying this is 138 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: going to be what results in disaster in the midterms 139 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: for Republicans. First of all, if Trump hadn't if this 140 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: hadn't gotten pasted, and this had gotten if this had 141 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: fallen apart on the on the shoals, if this had 142 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: come apart on the shoals of cong ris in fighting, 143 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: that would be far worse for the Republicans because you'd ask, 144 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: what exactly are they doing if they can't do this, 145 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: and because they have the votes, as we saw, Republicans 146 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: have the votes, they got it through. Trump's very excited 147 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: about it. I would note the attacks on it are 148 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: along the lines of the cuts to Medicaid. Uh, and 149 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: it's not really cuts, as Scott Beston has pointed out, it's. 150 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: A decrease in the increase over it. 151 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: He talked about this, Yeah, they they've allowed the idea 152 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: of a cut is just slowing growth. So it's like, hey, 153 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: you're fat, but instead of putting on ten pounds of 154 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: extra weight this year, you put on six. Nobody would say, boy, 155 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: that's a real cut. You're still getting fatter. You're just 156 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: getting fat or slower. Scott Bessant reminded Dana batt, Oh, 157 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,119 Speaker 1: we should do the CNN. Megan Kelly did a breakdown 158 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: of the CNNMSNBC ratings, and it's it's just crazy over there. 159 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: No one's watching these channels anymore that we know. We 160 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: grew up with CNN as. 161 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: This brand, global news and all this stuff. 162 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: And he's completely falling apart. But anyway, he went on. 163 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: Scott Bessent was talking to Dana bash about the Medicaid 164 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:15,239 Speaker 1: work requirements cut three and listen to him explain reality 165 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: a bit. 166 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: I think to have them register twice a year for 167 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: these benefits, that is not a burden. 168 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: My impression of the Republican Party is that historically wanted 169 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: to cut through the red tape and not create more 170 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: red tape. 171 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 3: Well, no, no, no, But we've also wanted to put in 172 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: work requirements, which somehow was very popular under Bill Clinton, 173 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: was popular under President Obama, and this Democratic Party blew 174 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: out the deficit in twenty twenty, and you know they 175 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 3: never want to bring it back. But work requirements even 176 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: pull well with the median Democratic voter. Maybe not the 177 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: fringe work requirements play. You have to actually do something 178 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: if you're an able body. We're not talking about you know, 179 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 3: mom with kids, We're not talking about disabled people. You 180 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: have to be willing to check in and say, hey, 181 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: I'm trying to do something productive for society, and therefore 182 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 3: please continue to give me healthcare welfare, which is what 183 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 3: Medicaid is. 184 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: It only requires twenty hours for able body, mostly men, 185 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: and twenty hours of work is considered to be enough, 186 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: and some of that can be charity work. So I mean, 187 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: we're talking legitimately about hey, just do something. There's a 188 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: huge percentage and I hope that some of the deportations 189 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: are going to impact this in a positive way. There's 190 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: a huge percentage of men that just don't work. And 191 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about sixty five year old men. I'm 192 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: talking about twenty five, thirty five, forty five men who 193 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: are in the prime earning years of what should be 194 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: their work life and just don't work, just don't do anything. 195 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: And why should they get Why should we who are 196 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: out there working give them benefits? 197 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: I got fired up over the weekend. 198 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: You know, the big beautiful bill has passed, but it 199 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: preserves thirty seven percent tax rates. Right, that's the highest 200 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: level tax rate. Think about that for a minute. Well, 201 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: we've just accepted as reality. That means that if you 202 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 1: are out there paying thirty seven percent tax and I am, 203 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: that means I work Monday Tuesday every week just for 204 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: the government. Presume that I don't work seven days, which 205 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: I basically do, but five days a week Monday to Friday. 206 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: If you're paying thirty seven percent, this doesn't even count 207 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: state taxes, property taxes, all those other things, just the 208 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: federal government every day of the week. I work Monday 209 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: and Tuesday for the federal government. 210 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: That's kind of. 211 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: Crazy that we just accept thirty seven percent tax rates. 212 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: And a lot of you out there, if you live 213 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: in California, or you live in New York or you 214 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: live in Illinois, you're actually paying over half every work week. 215 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: Half of the time. You basically are an employee of 216 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: the u United States government or your local tax authority. 217 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: It's crazy that we have just accepted this as reality, 218 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: but that's where we are. Medicaid here, according to GROC 219 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: which I do find a very useful and fun tool 220 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: on the fly to use, Medicaid spending in twenty twenty 221 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: four was a little over six hundred billion dollars. Six 222 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars. And remember that's that's not including Medicare, 223 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: which is for people sixty five and up. That is 224 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: the amount of money that the country is spending on 225 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: for people who, for one reason or another are unable 226 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: to get insurance or health care coverage themselves. That is 227 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: a very large sum of money that is going toward this. 228 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's what it's approaching like the Pentagon budget 229 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: that we spend on Medicaid. 230 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: What do you think. 231 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: That actually the big problem we have. I think there 232 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: are two major broken parts of America or right now. 233 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: One is the tax code completely broken. Two is healthcare. 234 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: It's completely broken. Regardless of what your politics are. That's 235 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: six hundred billion dollars. You just said, how much of 236 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: that do you think actually benefits health? In other words, 237 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: if it weren't spent, that there would be a precipitous 238 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: decline in overall health. 239 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: There. 240 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 1: There was a big study the Oregon Study years ago, 241 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: a study out of Oregon that showed that the actual 242 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: health outcomes for people with Medicaid versus people who are 243 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: similar socioeconomic status who do not have access to Medicaid, 244 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: they they could find no difference. Remember emergency emergency services. Anybody, 245 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: you walk in the emergency room, you get treated, although 246 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: these days you might wait twelve hours in a hallway 247 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: because there's a ton of illegals who are going for 248 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: frontline care and everything. But put that aside for a moment, 249 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: emergency room care, and that's you know, there's a moral 250 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: obligation that society has accepted where if you need medical treatment, 251 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: you get treated. Okay, fine, But Medicaid is more the 252 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: routine that going in for this checkup or that or whatever. 253 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: How much of that is waste and how much of 254 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: that isn't even benefiting the patients who are going in 255 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: for I think any one really knows. If you ask me, 256 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: I think we could cut half of all medical treatments 257 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: in America, all of them half, and I think we 258 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: would see no impact in quality of life or length 259 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: of life. Right In other words, we're just wasting money 260 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: so much every single day and getting not great outcomes. 261 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: And if you question that, just look at the average lifespan. 262 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: We spend way more money in America on healthcare than 263 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: any other country. 264 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: We don't live the longest. So this is the Oregon experiment. 265 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: This is published in a really radical right wing thing 266 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: called the New England Journal of Medicine. Randomized controlled study 267 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: Medicaid coverage generated no significant improvements in physical health outcomes 268 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: in the first two years that was a decade ago. 269 00:14:59,560 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 270 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: No, they can't even say that it makes it healthier 271 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: at all in any way. I mean, I think, just 272 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: based on data, look at life spans and correspond them 273 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: with money spent there is we are not getting our 274 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: money's worth if you compare how long we live to 275 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: other countries that spend a fraction on healthcare of what 276 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: we do. 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I was just telling people off air 302 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: Ali and the team awesome time down on the Gulf 303 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: of America. 304 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: Met a lot of Clay and Buck. 305 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: Listeners outkickreaders like that is definitely our wheel house down 306 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: down on thirty eight down on the Gulf of America 307 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: the Florida Panhandle. But I was flying back and on 308 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: Southwest Airlines and one of the flight attendants came over 309 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: and she said, you know, basically, you look like Clay Travis, 310 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: but he's a lot taller than you. And I really 311 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: had no idea how to respond. And part of me 312 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: was like, hey, I should be like, yeah, you know 313 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: Clay Travis, he's like six', five super. 314 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 2: Ripped he's, not you, know fat and. 315 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: Short by the, Way i'm six feet BUT i was just, like, 316 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: WELL i think she was, like maybe it's just because 317 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: you're sitting. DOWN i got a picture taken with her 318 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: AS i was. Leaving but have you ever had somebody 319 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: say you look like someone except you're not as good 320 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: as they might otherwise have. BEEN i had no idea 321 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: how to. 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Today 342 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: the racial spoils, system, everybody let's talk about this for 343 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: a little, bit shall. We racial spoils. System that's actually 344 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: how it was referred to in A Supreme court. DECISION 345 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: i want to, say By elido at one, point and 346 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: as you, know you're not allowed to for college admissions 347 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: discriminate on the basis of race. Anymore schools are still 348 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: doing it left and. Right The trump administration is going 349 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: to have to sue a lot of, them and other 350 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: people are going to have to bring a lot of. 351 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: Lawsuits they're going to have to feel the financial pain 352 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: of their, racism because that's what it is. Now because 353 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: the same system that said you're allowed to take people 354 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: based on their skin color over other, people or based 355 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: on their, ethnicity you, know indigenous, persons, background whatever it 356 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: is for you, Know Native, americans that same system now, says, 357 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: no that's actually. Wrong you shouldn't do, that and you're 358 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: no longer able to do. That and this brings me 359 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: To zoran And clay still. By his middle name Is 360 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: kwame Yep Zorn quame Mam Dami mamdani applied in two 361 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: thousand and nine To. Colombia New York times wrote about, 362 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: This there's a lot going on here, everyone and he 363 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: claimed that he Was African. American, now just so we 364 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: get the, facts let me just get the facts out 365 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: black the clip the clip the box that he checked 366 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: Is African american or? 367 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 2: Black? 368 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: Right, well, well if he's he's hanging his hat so to, 369 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: SPEAK i mean he's he's you, know claiming that The 370 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: African american part of it is like because he was 371 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: Qualified africa because he was born In. Africa so we're 372 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: gonn talk about this in a, second, Right, so, uh 373 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: he says He's African american and slash. 374 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: Black now we know that's that's he's clearly not. Black. 375 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: Uh and but this goes to a few. Things first of, 376 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: all this guy is AND i don't think he didn't get, in, 377 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: right he did not get admitted To. Columbia now there's 378 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: only two there's only really one. WAY i think that 379 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: that's possible based on because Now Chris, rufo you don't 380 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: Want rufo on on your on your. Tail you don't 381 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: want him coming after. You he has his Whole columbia. 382 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: File have you seen? This, no he has this Whole 383 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: columbia admissions. File Somehow Chris rufo got. This and he 384 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 1: has HIS sat, scores he has. Everything Chris rufo has 385 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: all this. Stuff so here's here's what we. Have he 386 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: got a twenty one forty out of twenty four. HUNDRED 387 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: i wish it was out of the sixteen hundred BECAUSE. 388 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: I don't know what twenty one to forty. 389 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: REALLY i, MEAN i guess that's like a seven hundred, 390 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: Equivalent so maybe it's like a fourteen, hundred which is 391 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: not a bad, score it's a GOOD sat. Score but For, 392 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: colombia if you're white Or, asian that's probably not going 393 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: to cut, it not even. Close so this guy he, 394 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: Applied he. Applied the point here is everyone he. Did 395 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: he pulled In Elizabeth. Warren all, right let's just let's 396 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: just get right down to This Clay KUAM i mean 397 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: a month, Sorry Zoran Kwame momdami Figured i'll pretend to 398 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: be black to get for the purposes of, admission to 399 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: get Into Columbia. University it didn't. WORK i think they 400 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: figured it. Out that's WHAT i was gonna say. BEFORE 401 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: i think they knew this guy wasn't really. 402 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: Black. 403 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: Uh and he's now saying because he was born In, 404 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: Africa well under that, Standard elon musk any White South, 405 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: african anyone born In egypt Or North, AFRICA i might, 406 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: add if You're, algerian there are Many algerians players are 407 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: as light skinned as you AND i. Are, okay there's 408 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: a whole ethnic berber B r b E r there a. 409 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: Lot some of them have blue eyes and light hair 410 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: and light. Skin live In North africa and been indigenous 411 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: To North africa for like a thousand years or. 412 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 2: Something all, right they've been there a long. 413 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: Time if you applied as A North, african as An 414 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: African american, slash, black people would would flip. 415 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 2: Out if you Were. 416 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: Egyptian cairo is a huge, city millions of mons of, 417 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: people they would flip. Out mamdani tried to pull the 418 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: card of, Oh I'm Kwame, mamdani the black guy applying To. 419 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: Columbia let me. In the guy's a. Fraud he played 420 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: The Elizabeth warren and now we know. Yes AND i 421 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: think also to build on the analogy MADE i, Mean 422 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: charlie's tarone is From South, Africa Elon musk is From South. 423 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: Africa If Elon musk had gotten government contracts because he 424 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: had Marked African american on applications for the government contract he, 425 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: Said i'm a black small business, owner give me loan, 426 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: preference people would lose their. Minds AND i think what 427 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: this really kind of brings up Is the reason he 428 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: did this is because his test scores were not. Incredible 429 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: according to this, article eighty ninth. Percentile it's good to 430 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: be top ten percent most. Things that's not good enough 431 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: to be a white or An asian kid and get Into. 432 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: Colombia so he was trying to pretend that he had 433 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: black background because the standard to be. 434 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: Admitted if you are. 435 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: Black that would be good enough to get. In and 436 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: here is this racial spoil system in, general it just 437 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: has to. Vanish it really does have to to once 438 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: and for, all give up the, ghost so to. Speak 439 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: if you want to go to these elite schools and 440 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: they want to only take kids who are, amazing right 441 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: like getting over fifteen, hundred sixteen hundred's on THE, sat thirty, 442 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: four thirty, five thirty six on THE, act GREAT ap, 443 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 1: scores good, GPAs all those. Things that's, fine but they 444 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: should do it on a race blind. Level and if 445 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: they really want to focus on, diversity the only diversity 446 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: that matters is diversity of, thought because otherwise you have 447 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of people who look different but think the exact, 448 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: same which is unfortunately what has become the case in 449 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: so many elite institutions out. There SO i think this 450 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: should be. Disqualifying and you can, say, okay well he 451 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: was only eighteen years. OLD i, mean look at the 452 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: standard that they put in place For Rachel. Doleozol Rachel, 453 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: dolesol for those of you who don't, remember was a 454 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: white woman who was pretending to be black THAT i 455 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: believe ran The Spokane WASHINGTON naacp. Chapter they found out 456 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: that she was actually just a white woman who was 457 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: somewhat dark skinned and was pretending to be, black and 458 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: she was ostracized from popular, society from, politics from all that. 459 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: World this guy is clearly trying to trade on the 460 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: racial spoil. System the fact that his middle name Is. 461 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: QUAME i guarantee you he got HIS sat scores and 462 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: he looked at it and he, said there's no, way 463 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: as An asian or white kid THAT i would get. 464 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: In but my middle name Is. Quame MAYBE i can 465 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: confuse people by Clicking African american or. Black here's the other, Thing, 466 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: buck AND i think this is. Important he wasn't Actually African. 467 00:25:55,359 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: American he did not become An american citizen in till twenty. 468 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 2: Eighteen so even if you're. 469 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: Going to give him, though, well he was born In, 470 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: Africa so it's fine for him to Click African. American 471 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: we know what the intent of the racial box there. 472 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: Was he wasn't Even African, american so he actually. Lied 473 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: now here's a question for you THAT i THINK i 474 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: hope people are going to look. Into was he admitted 475 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: as a minority to the school that he ultimately went, 476 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: To Boden, boden WHICH i couldn't even pronounced fourteen hundred At, 477 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: boden he'd get. 478 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: In that's that's that's not so you think he got in. 479 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: REGARDLESS i, MEAN i went to A nescac, school So 480 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: boden's technically a, competitor and you, Know boden's not that 481 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: hard to get. Into oh, snap The boden alumni are 482 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: going to flip out at The amherst. Guy but, sorry, 483 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: no it's a very good. School but he. Was that's the, Thing, 484 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: Clay boden is the school you know that this guy 485 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: Would that's that's the school that he would get into 486 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: for on his own. Merit he tried to get Into 487 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: columbia pulling The I'm Kwame Mamdani mandani, card, right that's 488 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,239 Speaker 1: the Now here's where he may have gotten caught his 489 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: dad was actually a faculty, member so the admission staff 490 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: may have looked into, this AND i wonder if they 491 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: rejected him because they thought that he was lying about usually. 492 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: Background it actually blew up on. Him and this is 493 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: a huge. 494 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: Deal this is a huge deal BECAUSE i know this 495 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: from friends of mine who work at. UNIVERSITIES i have 496 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: a friend who works At Columbia, university for, example don't 497 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: want to name, them don't want to get fired for 498 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: being friends with. Me but his children can go To 499 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: columbia for, free which when you think about that, value 500 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: and then on top of, that the unspoken part of 501 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: the deal is if your child is even vaguely, child you, 502 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: know young adult when they're going to, college if your 503 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: kid is vaguely, qualified they are much more likely to 504 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: be accepted and they go for. Free a Huge These 505 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: Ivy league schools a Huge this is true of all THE, 506 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: ivs a lot of schools in, general but The ivy's 507 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: for sure a huge benefit To. NOW i think it 508 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: might only be for like tenured. Professors there's probably some you. 509 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: KNOW i don't know if you're the guy who you, 510 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: know like sweeping the floors of the, auditorium but MAYBE 511 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: i actually don't. Know i'm getting beyond my brief on. 512 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: That but there's this other STORY i just want to 513 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: remind everybody of from twenty. FIFTEEN i interviewed this, guy you, 514 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: Know Mindy, kaling the actress slash comedian from The. Office, 515 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: yes her, brother her. Brother, YEAH i wondered if he 516 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: tell this story for people who THE dj Chokol ingham 517 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: was his. 518 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: Name he Was. 519 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: Indian Mindy kaling is his. Sister so she's a famous, actress, 520 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: comedian she's from the. Office she's The South asian descent 521 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: woman in the. Office so you've the one who's like 522 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: anyway you know she is if you've seen the. Office 523 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: He clay didn't get Into uh he had very mediocre, 524 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: scores didn't get into the medical school programs he wanted, 525 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: to so he, reapplied shaved his, HEAD i, believe, yes 526 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: shaved his, head darkened his uh you, know tried to 527 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: like change the photos so he would look darker in the. 528 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: Photo he tried to appear more black and changed his 529 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: name To Jojo and guess, what same, score same, person 530 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden getting into top medical programs across the, 531 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: country and the left. Went he wrote a book about. It, 532 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: Right was it a book or a movie he made about? 533 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: This it was a website ALMOST i, Mean i'm just 534 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: telling you what it's. Called almost black dot com was 535 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: the website that he. Launched you know what it goes 536 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: to is it points out the absurdity he got looked 537 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: at as An indian guy and didn't get in. Anywhere 538 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: because CAN i tell you? Something this is, Yeah oh, sorry, 539 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: YEAH i just this is the amazing. Thing this IS, 540 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: cnn which is now like about to be on the 541 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: trash heap and turned into a channel where they sell 542 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: Like sawrowsky crystals or something to, You clay THE cnn 543 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: piece on, this there's little evidence to suggest that his 544 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: posturing as a black applicant helped him get into the following. 545 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 4: Schools there's nothing but ev he, applied didn't get it, 546 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 4: anywhere says he's, black changes his appearance and gets into 547 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 4: a bunch of, schools And CNN's, like there's no evidence 548 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 4: that being black helped. 549 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: Him this was a delusion that we were all supposed 550 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: to live. 551 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: In not only, THAT i mean the fact that the 552 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: if you care about minority, advancement. 553 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: All of These indian. 554 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: Kids are so successful In america that they're actually being 555 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: penalized for Being, indian and same thing is true Of Chinese. 556 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: JAPANESE i, mean we've talked about this, BEFORE i think 557 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: on the. Program but do. 558 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: You know the highest earning race and sex group In, 559 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: america It's asian. Men asian men on average make more 560 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: money than anyone In. America, Okay so you have all 561 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: these young first and second generation immigrants that want to be, 562 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: doctors and they're being used their race against them because 563 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: there's too many of them doing so. Great this guy 564 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: pretends to be black can suddenly get in. Everywhere Nigerian 565 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: american immigrants out earn Native american you, know native Born. 566 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: AMERICAN i should, say, yeah, households, yes SO i mean 567 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: you got to but substantially they're actually a high earning 568 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: is a perfect distillation of the actual lack of. Racism 569 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: that you could come here From nigeria and immediately become 570 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: wealthier than the average person who's been born. Here the 571 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: fact that people From nigeria are desperate to get, here 572 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: or the fact that people from any part Of africa 573 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: Or asia Or Latin america destroys the racism argument on its. 574 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: Face why would you want to come to a profoundly racist. 575 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: Country BUT i actually give credit to. THAT i remember 576 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: that story Because Mindy kayaling is actually a super, leftist 577 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: at least publicly in the way that she is. 578 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: Embraced, yeah of, Course. 579 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: Claid it's also the reason they got upset about this 580 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: is because it exposed the absurdity of the whole situation 581 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: as well as the truth of. 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Podcasts welcome back In Clay Travis Buck Sexton. 636 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: Show we're gonna be joined By Congressman Ship roy at 637 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: the top of the next. Hour hearing about ten, minutes 638 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: he represents the area Of texas that was so horribly 639 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: flooded over the, weekend over ninety lost lives so. 640 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: Far we'll update you on the absolute. 641 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: Latest THERE i was, reading, continuing we're talking about Mom 642 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: donnie lying about being black And African. American he, scored 643 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: according To Chris rufo in the eighty ninth percent. Aisle 644 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: they've changed the way that they handle scoring On SAT's. 645 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: Acts eighty ninth percentile generally pretty, good but buck the 646 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: eighty ninth percentile, score which is around to twelve, eighty 647 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: would have been nowhere near good enough for An asian 648 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: kid to be able to get into a top, school 649 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: which is why he's pretending to Be African. AMERICAN i 650 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: did The, YEAH i, Mean i'm glad you pointed this. 651 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: OUT i did the back of the envelope math on, 652 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: that AND i, assumed, okay well divide. It it's like 653 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: a seven, hundred seven hundred times. Too, no, no if 654 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 1: it's more like a twelve. Eighty his chance of getting 655 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: in as a non minority To columbia basically, zero no. 656 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 2: CHANCE i mean not even with even with his dad 657 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 2: as a. Professor. 658 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: Professor, yeah, yeah it's just they would have said you're 659 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: just not, qualified like you won't be able to handle 660 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: the you, know the low so kind of rough For, Boden, 661 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: BODEN i thought you were taking a fourteen hundred Sorry, 662 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: boden twelve. Eighty, no let me say this too for 663 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: people out there that might BE i do think this 664 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: is a story because if he marked Black African american 665 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: On colombia's, APPLICATION i wonder if he might have gotten 666 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: a minority scholarship at a place Like boden or somewhere 667 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: else that he ended up. Applying because his middle name 668 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: Is quame and he's saying He's African american or, BLACK 669 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: i think it's reasonable to assume that he might be mixed. Race, 670 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: well they would give HIM i would probably be financial. 671 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: AID i don't think That. Boden those small ness packs 672 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: Like emerst didn't have, Scholarships but some people go for 673 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: free based on the financial aid they. 674 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 2: Get so he might have. 675 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: Got but he has wealthy, parents so did he get you, 676 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: know he has well off. 677 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 2: Parents did he get a lot of financial? 678 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: Aid clay to your, point because he pretended to be, 679 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: black possible real question