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Speaker 1: DJ and Bucky here from Move the Sticks. Bucky tell

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Speaker 1: everybody what's coming up On our next episode. We can

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Speaker 1: talk about the top quarterback performances at the NFL combine,

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Speaker 1: well as iTunes. The Around the NFL Podcast agreed to

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Speaker 1: offset contract language. Welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Jnsas and

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Speaker 1: I am joined by Room Feld with heroes Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal. What's up? Boys? I am

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Speaker 1: so excited for today's show. It's exciting. Let's just let's

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Speaker 1: put it right there exactly. It's very exciting. Mark uh.

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Speaker 1: what's going on? I don't I remember being at your house,

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Speaker 1: but I don't remember where that. You wouldn't drop by

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Speaker 1: your mentors home. That is true, I mean I mean

430
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Speaker 1: day got off to an odd start when I didn't

431
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Speaker 1: stop by Greg's right off the bat um and other

432
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Speaker 1: franchise tag news. Uh Von Miller got the franchise tag

433
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Speaker 1: and and Mark do you know why he was unique

434
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Speaker 1: to the rest of the franchise tag field because he

435
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Speaker 1: just won the Super Bowl? Okay, Uh, well, yes that

436
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Speaker 1: would be unique to this class. But he got the

437
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Speaker 1: exclusive franchise tag which nobody else can negotiate. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a Bronco and they'll get a deal done. Cordy Glenn,

439
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Speaker 1: the Bills left tackle he got, You get a franchise tag,

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Speaker 1: and you got a fend he got a franchise anyone.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we looked yesterday. There wasn't a single comment

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Speaker 1: on that. People not plugged in on offensive tackles in

443
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Speaker 1: Western New York. Olivier Vernon this one, Saucy Greg got

444
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Speaker 1: the transition tag in Miami last year. If you remember

445
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Speaker 1: Charles Clay that the h back the Dolphins did the

446
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: same thing, and then the Rex Ryan got over excited

447
00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 1: and the Bills signed him to a big contract that

448
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Speaker 1: the Dolphins opted not to match. Will the same thing

449
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Speaker 1: happen with Vernon? And will that be a big blunder

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Speaker 1: greg by the Dolphins if they let Vernon get out

451
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Speaker 1: the door. It's a strange move. I don't think they

452
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Speaker 1: give them that tag unless they're almost ready to say

453
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Speaker 1: goodbye to him. But it's just it's become their move. Now.

454
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Speaker 1: He's number two on our top ninety nine available players.

455
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 1: He's not technically free agent, but like being free agent,

456
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Speaker 1: but not really because you don't have to give up

457
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Speaker 1: anything to get him. You just sign them to the contract.

458
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Speaker 1: You don't have to give the Dolphins a draft pick

459
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Speaker 1: or anything like it would be with the restricted free agent.

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Speaker 1: So all it does is tells Dolphins fans that the

461
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Speaker 1: front office. It gives them a feeling like they don't

462
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Speaker 1: know what they're doing. Why why did you do this?

463
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Speaker 1: Now we just have to watch the forty nine or

464
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Speaker 1: someone give him fifty million dollars guaranteed frontloaded, not match it,

465
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Speaker 1: and just draw out this process and it feels like

466
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Speaker 1: they don't know what I think he's gone well, and

467
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Speaker 1: it gives agents a chance, like when Alex Mack was

468
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Speaker 1: transitioned to go sign a contract with the Jaguars that

469
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Speaker 1: suddenly included an opt out clause and an no trade

470
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Speaker 1: clause like the asan co in and basically screw the

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Speaker 1: original team, who then if they want to match, they

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Speaker 1: don't have power over that player. That's what the Bills did.

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Speaker 1: They front loaded everything in the Clay contract with a

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Speaker 1: lot of guarantees. They knew the Dolphins are tight to

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Speaker 1: the cap, and the Dolphins are tight to the cap. Again,

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Speaker 1: they're screwing the original team. When the original teams when

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Speaker 1: they messed up and put it, You're right, I don't

478
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Speaker 1: know the original team walked into it, but it does

479
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Speaker 1: give a chance. It's a half It's a half measure.

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Speaker 1: Like Ryan having Ryan Tannehill as your quarterback, it's a

481
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Speaker 1: half measure. Gregg had to go. I mean, I'm just

482
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Speaker 1: saying the listeners, la either find a way to give

483
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Speaker 1: him the franchise tag and cut Cameron Wake and Brent

484
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 1: Grimes or whatever you need to do or or not.

485
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Speaker 1: This was the guy who was on Lauren Tannehill's person

486
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Speaker 1: him in a better position with that family than you.

487
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Speaker 1: What's that last man off the Ryan Tannehill both welcome

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Speaker 1: back to Yes, Mark. I remember you stepping on Lauren's purse.

489
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Speaker 1: She was quite classy about it, but furious, Well, there

490
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Speaker 1: was a loud, distinct crackle inside. I stepped on something

491
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Speaker 1: that smashed into many. Well maybe it was a gun.

492
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: Remember they left that guy. I don't think it was

493
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Speaker 1: one that was stupid. Josh Norman and Mel Wilkerson, Panthers

494
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: and Jets respectively, also got the tag. And speaking of

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Speaker 1: the transition tag, here's somebody that knows a little bit

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Speaker 1: about that business, Alex Mack. Transition guys, that's what it's

497
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Speaker 1: like in this business pcasting. Alex mckis avoided his Browns

498
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Speaker 1: deal that had three years and twenty four million left

499
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Speaker 1: on it, including eight million guaranteed. He's going to test

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Speaker 1: the free agency market. But guess what, Mark don't lose

501
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Speaker 1: hope because he likes you. He likes Sashi. Actually, let's

502
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Speaker 1: get the full Sashi. I'm in the mood, Ladies and

503
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: Jem and he is open to staying in Cleveland, So

504
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Speaker 1: it just no matter if they want to be competitive.

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Speaker 1: At least that's what he's saying. Do you think Alex

506
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Speaker 1: Mack will be the center for the Browns week one.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, but I definitely didn't think so

508
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Speaker 1: a couple of months ago. And I do think that

509
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Speaker 1: that it sounds like what we heard at the combine

510
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Speaker 1: that there is they are talking. There is a chance.

511
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Speaker 1: It's no surprise at all that he avoided his contract.

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Speaker 1: I would have been stunned if he didn't. But now

513
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: he's going to find out. You know, Cleveland's back in

514
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: in a situation again where they can fight against another team,

515
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: and if you're the Browns, you had to be considered

516
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: fighting uphill battle. Mac has been through what twenty six

517
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks At this point when you're the person having to

518
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Speaker 1: work directly with the quarterback, he's been through seven different offenses.

519
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Speaker 1: I mean the idea of a team that is consistency

520
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: and as a winner, and he said winning is important

521
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Speaker 1: to him. He could be lured away thirty three and

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Speaker 1: seventy nine since he was a first round pick in

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Speaker 1: two thousand nine. They also Mitchell Schwartz. They lose potentially

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Speaker 1: as well in free agency and the one thing that

525
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: they touted as a strength, which it wasn't last year,

526
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Speaker 1: suddenly is not at all and they have a lot

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Speaker 1: of needs. Uh. Elsewhere in the a f C North,

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco and the Baltimore Ravens strike a contract extension.

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Speaker 1: Not a surprise. He had a Drew Breezy type cap hit.

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Speaker 1: Uh coming coming uh Baltimore's way this season. So they

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Speaker 1: decided to essentially give him a new deal. Rip up

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Speaker 1: that contract and it was a three year extension worth

533
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: sixty six point four million, signing bonus of forty million.

534
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Speaker 1: Which this is the other thing got on everybody's radar,

535
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Speaker 1: people lumping in Joe Flacco and Sam Bradford in the

536
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Speaker 1: same tweet to talk about how quarterbacks are overpaid. You know,

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Speaker 1: let's calm down, come back to us. Joe Flacco is

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Speaker 1: a good quarterback, maybe not the greatest thing. He's got

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Speaker 1: a ring in an epic postseason run. If I have

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, I'm keeping him till he's thirty eight years old.

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Speaker 1: And I got no problem how much I pay him.

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Speaker 1: Carried the Ravens to a super Bowl, one of the

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Speaker 1: performances him in the last ten years. And you talk

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Speaker 1: about postseason quarterback runs, eli, uh that uh two thousand

545
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Speaker 1: twelve season Flacco two thousand, two thousand twelve, two thousand eleven.

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Speaker 1: Brady had an amazing run last year. I mean, do

547
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Speaker 1: you pay for those guys? You keep him in your building.

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Speaker 1: Flacco is playing great at the end of last season,

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Speaker 1: and who knows, they mud have ended up with a

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Speaker 1: second Super Bowl title if they hadn't lost that fourteen

551
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: point lead. It certainly wasn't Joe Flacco's fault that they

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00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: lost to the Patriots a couple of years ago. It

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00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: is strange, though, as good as Joe Flatt and I

554
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: like Joe Flac a lot, it is strange that he

555
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: makes the most average salary of any quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It's a little strange he now tops Aaron Rodgers. Joe

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00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: Flacco is number one, and his agent and Joe Flacco

558
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: have done a great job, and they timed it. I

559
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: mean they just timed it perfectly, signing that initial deal,

560
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Speaker 1: getting the Super Bowl run right before, and that's kind

561
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: of set up the rest of it. It's so funny

562
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: to remember the outrage the evening that that Flacco deal.

563
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: I will never forget, just the twitter outrage that Joe

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Speaker 1: Flacco would be paid what he was at quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: then over the course of the from then till now,

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Speaker 1: one quarterback after the next is making bank. I don't

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00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: have a problem. You look at his record and what

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00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: he did with some pretty pretty average ravens teams. It's

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Speaker 1: not just him, it's the rest of that the way

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Speaker 1: that franchises Bill but no problem playing Joe Flacco a

571
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: ton of cash. Give me Joe Flacco that he did

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00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: a good job last year with some lackluster, really lackluster

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Speaker 1: people around him for a while. Then at all it

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00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: fell apart and he got injured. You know, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: wine year old coming out of torn a cl that's

576
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 1: now the highest paid player in the highest paid quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the league and has never really been a top

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00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: five quarterbacks. So if you wanted to, you know, just

579
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: note that. I think that's fair to know. Simone and

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00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: I saw him at the Super Bowl walking down uh

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00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: the avenue and he looked fine. That's breaking news from

582
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler at Mark Sessler Underscore NFL. Was that our hotel?

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Speaker 1: So I saw him, you look good. And finally the

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Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints, New Oldens Saints. Excuse me, um cut

585
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: ties with West. We are losing West. Yes, I feel

586
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: like this is the end of Philadelphia too right now?

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Speaker 1: Who it could Philadel you too? No, they're not gonna

588
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: green light Philadelphia too. It's called Philadelphia to Colin still

589
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: terminally ill. Actually, I think I think we're gonna get

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00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: We're definitely gonna get some movie movie posters based on that.

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00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: It just lest hacking. It was Mike Um anyway, Marquise

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Speaker 1: Colston was a wide Receiverstone. Yes, that's me, that's how. Well,

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00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: there's a different pronunciation. Greg. You always get on Well. Well, downstairs,

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00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: we were talking about this story and I told I

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00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: told Dan, I informed him. You have been saying Marcus

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00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: Colston's name incorrectly for the last three years. It's not Mark.

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00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: Let you tell me if I'm wrong. He's not a

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00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: French dignitary or anything. It's not that or a writer.

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00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: It's not the Marquis to side. It is not plays

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Speaker 1: outside Marcus. Marcus Colston is how you say the name Sydney.

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Speaker 1: You are a wise woman from Utah. I'm gonna spell

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Speaker 1: you his first name. You tell me how you would

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Speaker 1: pronounce it and be honest. M A R q U

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Speaker 1: E S. I would say Mark Marquise. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's certain breaking news. Yeah, yeah, breaking news.

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Speaker 1: English language has silent letters all sorts of crazy. Well,

607
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: if you're gonna spell it that way, though, you're inviting confusion. Well,

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Speaker 1: can we just talk about Dan's the only person I've

609
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: heard call him Marquise over the last five years, and

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00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: taking a lot take it to its logical end. Though.

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00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: I also because after a while you hear his name

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00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: said a certain way, you could you know, listen, well,

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Speaker 1: Greg is now banging Dan for not let's listen to it,

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00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: just to say, like, is that his name? Like there

615
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: are no rules. We have abandoned all sorts of rules

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Speaker 1: for how to name and spell children's names. D Why

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Speaker 1: did you fall out that win? How does Brett Farve

618
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: get away with calling himself Brett Farve? That's a fair point. Wait,

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Speaker 1: let's listen to the official pronunciation. This will settle everything.

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Speaker 1: Marquise coaster, Okay, Marquis case closed anyway, he gone, And

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Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. If you have a

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00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: problems for bad for your son, I've got problems. I

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Speaker 1: mean I could just I could walk out of the

624
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: studio right now and say that was a great show.

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00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: It's such a smug look you've got right. Why it's great.

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Speaker 1: I approve of it. I mean, you earned it. He's

627
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: just happy. He you know, used the all time leader

628
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: in in receiving yards in Saints history as a way

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Speaker 1: to do a little bit on mispronouncing his name. By

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Speaker 1: the way, thanks to Sacramento, California is a free agent

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Speaker 1: eagle Makers. We're losing Sydney because oh it's not a

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Speaker 1: good idea for a company to be able to keep

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Speaker 1: like a skyrocketing employee for more than seven months. Got

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Speaker 1: to get them out in the street. Got a risk

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Speaker 1: never getting them back. Good job, California. The top ninety

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Speaker 1: not available players, you could you could get this at

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Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash top ninety nine. And I'm seeing

638
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: a lot of guys on Twitter popping off, running their mouth.

639
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Speaker 1: They are, you know, putting, putting, you know, their own

640
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: lists off their lips. To borrow some parlance from our

641
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: friend Jason lock infora who By the way, lock come

642
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: back to us baby. Uh a late night Uh Combine

643
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: tweet throwing shade at rap sheet? Uh can we read

644
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: that tweet? Can you just bring that up real quick, Greg,

645
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: because this was one of my favorite things of Combine week.

646
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: Kind of got off my radar and missed it, and

647
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: then I plugged in on it on Tuesday. This is

648
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: an NFL insider to another NFL insider Jason lock In

649
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: for a keep at rap Sheet, keep my name off

650
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: your lips. Always remember this. I know you will sent

651
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: it one forty in the morning, Uh in the morning,

652
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: posturing mouth. You gotta be careful. They wow you and

653
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: Laca sharing some DNA. I did think that when I

654
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: when I heard that, maybe I didn't think it was

655
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: an you know, maybe listen to the podcast that I'm

656
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: glad Do you want to run with? Hey? I had,

657
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: I had a message to send that day. I stand

658
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: by it. I didn't get through partner um the top

659
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: ninety nine available players, So anyway, you know, team rap Sheet,

660
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,239
Speaker 1: you know, calm down, come back to this lock off

661
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: Twitter Gangster Top ninety nine available players. This is a

662
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: list that has been done. A lot of care and

663
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: effort has went into this list. You guys the scientists

664
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: we call um Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal. Uh, not

665
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: just because they founded Rhoda World and not only built

666
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: that site html HTML brick by brick, but also physically

667
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: the building that houses all the Rhoda World writers. They

668
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: built that as well. Most of the Rotor World writers

669
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: appear to live in within like ten miles of Evans Silva,

670
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: West I'm building your legends, like make it seem like

671
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: you guys all worked in an office building and cubicles

672
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: all around, like the Brill Building, but you were actually

673
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: in Tybee Island during your time. It wrote as true.

674
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: I don't know how I got all that building working

675
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: on a dock. I don't drink corona. All right, let's

676
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: get into this list, and I think, um, you know,

677
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit. How do we want to

678
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: tackle this because there are, yeah, ninety nine names right

679
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: off the top. I want to start with who made

680
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: number ninety nine, which always gets me excited? And um,

681
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 1: number ninety nine, I thought a little disappointed. I thought

682
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: it was going in a different direction. Is this the

683
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: most off to day version? Okay, number ninety nine on

684
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: this list? Because I thought it was gonna be a

685
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: certain form of washing. He's good call, Thank you very much.

686
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: I apologize Chris Johnson, your number nine nine. You guys

687
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: like to have a saucy guy at ninety nine, even

688
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: if he should be higher or maybe not on the list.

689
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: You always like that. It's the only time science kind

690
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: of gives takes a back seat to a little bit

691
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: of pop and posturing. Well, I like the idea that

692
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: you're the last guy in the list should be a

693
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: memorable name exactly. You want to wow him in the end,

694
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, you want to have a big finish to

695
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: the show like we do every day. And so Chris

696
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: Johnson's a guy who was seemingly out of the league

697
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: and then when he played played last year. It is

698
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: interesting number one on the list that's not as enticing

699
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: a name as number ninety nine, But that's not your fault. Well,

700
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: think about the top five quickly before we get to

701
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: ones we disagree. I mean, these aren't big names. Malik

702
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: Jackson's number one. Everyone was talking at the combine. You

703
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: gotta find your Malik Jackson, the guy who can work

704
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: inside and out so you can put any type of

705
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: front you want. A guy that's seventy football fans had

706
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: no idea existed exactly. And I think he's gonna get

707
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen million dollars year. He's gonna get Andy Dalton,

708
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick money. Then you have Olivier Vernon, who top

709
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 1: five in the league and tackles for loss and quarterback hits,

710
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: but not a big name. Colletche Assemily, which Dan famously

711
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: has never been able to pronounce. How do you say,

712
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: markis Doug Martin? People know Doug Martin and Bruce Servant.

713
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: That's the top five. So not not nice little player. Yeah,

714
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: well it's hard. Great players don't get the free He's

715
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 1: gonna get ten million a year. I like Bruce Irvan.

716
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: I think he's an above average starter in the middle

717
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: of his career. There's defense, there's there's not that many,

718
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: you know, I would Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril round

719
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: you here, April April, listen everyone, and everyone's allowed to

720
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: pronounce the name off target that is there. The top ten.

721
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: Five is Irvin, six is Jpp And I'm sure we're

722
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: gonna bring that up in a second. Mario Williams, who

723
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: we discussed earlier. Seven, Eric Weddle, the charge of safeties. Eight,

724
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: Danny Trevathan, the Broncos linebacker nine and Jennars Jenkins and

725
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: uh Ram's cornerback ten. Not happy of course that Truemaan

726
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: Jackson got the tag, but he's probably gonna be happy

727
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: when things are all set and done because people got

728
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: money to spend and a cornerback that is entering his

729
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: prime is gonna get paid. He'll be Okay. At the end,

730
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: he reportedly turned down a five year, forty five million

731
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: dollar contract and then he fired his agent. It's that

732
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: that's always a you know, they have red flags going

733
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: into the draft. It's always a red flag when you

734
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: fire your agent three days before free agency. It's always

735
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: like the players that are a little that fly off

736
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: the handle. Are you? Are you saying generous? Jenkins, based

737
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: on his Twitter feed, is definitely a guy you gotta

738
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: manage closely. But you're calling that move to fire the

739
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: agent after that offer a sounds like that. No, I'm

740
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: not blaming the agent. I'm saying when players are firing

741
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: agents three days before free agency started or a few

742
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 1: days before, it just seems like a weird, unstable person

743
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: type of move. Okay, So let's let's break this down.

744
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: And I guess we'll start here. Um, you guys West

745
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 1: and Greg, when you can make this list, you basically

746
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: talk out each player and and this is what I

747
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: pick up. And Mark, let me know if you um

748
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: involved in this segment. We are outsiders. Don't worry about

749
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: I want to hear it. You guys got to pick

750
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: it apart. Mark, you have like you know how you

751
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: have fantasy corner during uh A draft segment, there'll be

752
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: something similar, will be like sesss uh Street corner or

753
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: maybe like Cess's beach bench. Each bench sitting and watch

754
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: the sea. You throw it over the beach bench when

755
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: you need to. Okay, cool anyway, So you guys disagree

756
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: on certain names, and you you guys talk it out

757
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: and you try to slot someone in, and every once

758
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: in a while, you guys are in totally different places

759
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: on a player. So let's talk about some of those players,

760
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: and UH, Greg get us going. Which name jumped out

761
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: immediately when I just said that, as some of you

762
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: guys were not on the same page on Jason Pierre

763
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: Paul was the number one guy. I see a guy

764
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 1: who was by far the best player in the Giants

765
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: front seven last year when he came back. Was an

766
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: impact player. And if you put him on the free

767
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: agent market two years ago, he'd be signing a five year,

768
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar contract. And there's that sort of ceiling

769
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: for JPP now. And I think you get him at

770
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: a relatively bargain type of rate, maybe a two year

771
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: deal twenty million dollars, and there's a chance you get

772
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: a top ten defensive player in the entire league. So

773
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: I had him on our initial list even before all

774
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: the tags. I had him as the number five player.

775
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: West did not have him in the top twenty five. No,

776
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: I didn't, and I don't. I don't think that you

777
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: can say that the ceiling for a seven and a

778
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: half finger player is the same ceiling as we saw

779
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: him fail to wrap up guys multiple times he was.

780
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: He wasn't the best player on the front seven. Robert

781
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: Airs was, and Jason Pierre Paul had one sack in

782
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: eight games because he Tackling is one of the most

783
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: basic elements in football. If you can't do it, you're

784
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 1: not as valuable. And I don't think Jason Pierre Paul

785
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: gets too much credit for just running into the backfield

786
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: and failing to make plays. I mean, if we're seeing that,

787
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: aren't gms and scouts seeing the same? Why Why do

788
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: you assume that the guy coming off of a devastating

789
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: injury playing football in a different way for the first

790
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: time in his entire life is just gonna be that

791
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: guy for the rest of his career. Why can't you

792
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: get better at playing with the but you're asking someone

793
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: go put a lot of money. I don't the assumption

794
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: that he is well, I think it's a I think

795
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: it's a buy medium with a big time reward. I

796
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: don't think it's it's gonna be. This isn't a guy

797
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: coming back from an A C L tear and it

798
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: takes him a year to get right. This is a

799
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: guy that and West put it quite literally, has seven

800
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: and a half fingers now and he's not going to

801
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: grow more fingers. So you don't buy medium on the

802
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: number six player on this list. Well, depend this. This

803
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: isn't a ranking of who's going to get the most money.

804
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: I think he'll have an okay deal. You said, you

805
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: know he might not grow back the fingers actually will not.

806
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: The scientists we you know, we didn't want to reveal

807
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: this different. Well that is it's possible he was a

808
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: really good player last year. Everyone is over rad under

809
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: radium because if the West had any confidence in your

810
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: ability as a duo to grow back fingers, he wouldn't

811
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: have put him outside of his twenty five. If you

812
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: talk about how your hand functions when you're trying to

813
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: grab a quarterback, you're diving after him and you slip

814
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: off of his rump. Or his back or his pads

815
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: because you can physically grab that player your hand doesn't work.

816
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: I think it was a good layer when he came back,

817
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: and he's only got to get better. And people are

818
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: under radiant because of that one game that was on

819
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: Sunday Night football where he missed a bunch of tackles

820
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: and Chris Collinsworth pointed out, remember he wasn't where there

821
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: was an issue what the Panthers on a Sunday afternoon

822
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: and he had major issues tackling Cam Newton. Take a chance. Alright,

823
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: how about another player west that you jumps to mind?

824
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: You guys definitely were not on the same page on Well,

825
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: let's let me look at this link you let's start.

826
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: I think Dwayne Allen, whom I have a lot of

827
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: faith in, I'll always be an unapologetic Dwayne Allen supporter.

828
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: We heard Steve Kim at the combine had one of

829
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: the most fascinating discussions on tight ends. It basically it's

830
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: two different positions. Now, there's no such thing as a

831
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: tight end because you're either in f or y and

832
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: one of those just blocks, the other one just receives.

833
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: Dwayne Allen is one of about a handful of tight

834
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: ends that can do both when he's healthy. Healthy. Health

835
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: is the big question for him. He wound up and

836
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: this is our Visan two that went up after all

837
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 1: the franchise, like he wounded up at number forty six,

838
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 1: you had a much much higher I see your point

839
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: on this one. I think if you're taking a chance

840
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: with a young tight end in this market, I'd go

841
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: with Ladarius Green out of those two, who is again

842
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: later areas Green is great, but he's basically just a

843
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: big wide receiver. He can't fulfill every function like Dwayne Allen.

844
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: Don't you think don't you think the offensive coaches and

845
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck would have found a way to get Dwayne

846
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: Allen going in the last couple of years At some point,

847
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: I have no faith. I have no faith in the

848
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: Colts offensive coaches. West. So sometimes when you're making this

849
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: list with Greg, do you ever wonder yourself was Greg

850
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: even watching the same games as me? Only only during

851
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: the Jason Pierre Paul discussion. I'll give me a break.

852
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: First of all, Dwayne Allen, let's uh, let's go over

853
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: his production macause Greg ever privately confessed to you some

854
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: issues that he has with West. In terms of talent evaluations,

855
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: Duade Allen missed the entire two thousand thirteen season, He's

856
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: often in Jared, and he has gained a total of

857
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: five yards the last two years. This evaluation isn't based

858
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: on stats. My valuation if Duyne out is purely based

859
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: on game filmed greg No, I argue with that. I

860
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: I did too. That's what I put him like sixteent

861
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: to me, I think is pretty high, you know, compared

862
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: to other people. For instance, I put him fifty spots

863
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: ahead of guys like that. We're much more productive at

864
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: tight end, like Zach Miller or Ben Watson or players

865
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: like that. You mean another one, how about Mario Williams,

866
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: which we mentioned a little bit, but you know, West

867
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: really thinks Mario Williams would be a good a good bye.

868
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: He wound up when you when you averaged out his

869
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: two two numbers, he ended up being number seven on

870
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: our list. But I think it's a it could be

871
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: a big waste of money. Well, I just here's how

872
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: I decide where to put Mario Williams. Find Jason Pierre

873
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: Paul and put him above him. That's pretty easy to see.

874
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: That's what happened. That's what happened sometimes in these that

875
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: you're looking at the rankings. That is not a direct hit.

876
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: But let's let's put a sandwich on it right now.

877
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: We don't need to wait for the free agency show.

878
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: Who has a better season? Jason Pierre Paul or Mario Williams.

879
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: And we're gonna have a committee of three. Mark Sessler,

880
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: Dan hands this, and David Eally behind the desk will

881
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: be the third person. Okay, change, actually a bad choice.

882
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: Why would you go with over like Connor or Patrick? Okay, Connor,

883
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: Connor and Patrick will be a fourth person. It'll be

884
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 1: a committee. Then we'll we'll okay, we'll workshout this. Yeah,

885
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: who has a better season? James? I feel bad now

886
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: because wait, listen to this. Why don't you guys just simplified.

887
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: I know, you know, because you're basically asking us the

888
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: PF the situation, who has more sex? No, I want

889
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: you guys, he knows that Jason Pierre kids at quarterback.

890
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: I want you guys to having about Jason p Paul

891
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: is a great run defender. So better season based on

892
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: our committee's finding store. Okay, it's the new Warren Commission. Here,

893
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: here's the name. That I think you would find into

894
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: resting Dan. I ranked Ryan Fitzpatrick much higher. I had

895
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: him as my twy desperately trying to get Dan. That's right,

896
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: funny fifth initially and that's moved up with all the text.

897
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: West had him in the mid forties, barely had him

898
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: as a top fifty player. Let me let me say this,

899
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: and because I kind of think I know where West

900
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: is coming from on this one. I think, first of all,

901
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: he had a great season, with the exception of a

902
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: bad quarter at the end of the season, which wasn't great.

903
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: But he has much more value to the Jets playing

904
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: in that offense than he does to any of the

905
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: thirty one other teams. And I would think that's probably

906
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: where West is at on this You can't sign bringing

907
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: Marshall and Eric Decker along with Ryan Fitzpatricks. I get that,

908
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: And that's why Ryan Fitzpatrick had a great season. He's

909
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: throwing to one of the best wide receiver duos in

910
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: the NFL. Well, I mean, it's probably the best red

911
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: zone duo. Get he was smarter, he he improved as

912
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Here's the thing. You get a quarterback bump though.

913
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: I mean if Kirk Cousins gets twenty million dollars. Then

914
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick gets a bump and he's right right now,

915
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: he's twenty three and Reggie Nelson and Georgia Loca, so

916
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: he's got a big Bengal safety sandwich. What did Ryan

917
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick cost the Jets last year three and a half million?

918
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: That's when you want to Here's what I'm saying. Kirk

919
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: Cousins had a great season for the Redskins. He maybe

920
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: the Redskins took him off the market, but you could

921
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 1: have pride him away for a lot cheaper. Chase Daniel,

922
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: to me, is a very similar quarterback to Ryan Fitzpatrick.

923
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: Why pay one of them fifteen million a year and

924
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: the other one four million? But isn't like this list.

925
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: If you could go and find out where every one

926
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: of them are gonna land and then re rank it

927
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: by player and fit, that's a totally different list. Maybe

928
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: it will be because what happens is last year and

929
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: the year before the number one guy, some team, some

930
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: desperate team goes out and overpays for someone, and then

931
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: they vanished to some degree, some of these players. Because

932
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: it's I would much rather take Matt Forte on the Patriots,

933
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: then Eric Weddle on some terrible football defense. Well, you're

934
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: right number one on this list, and I did one.

935
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 1: I went back and looked before West arrived, dark days

936
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: at the NFL back then. But then the number one

937
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: player has not always worked out. Peyton manning that that

938
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: worked out fine? Uh, Mike Wallace not so good. No,

939
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: Jari's bird who injury issues fired? Irishman, irishman. You see

940
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: how quick city is on that on that iPad. That's

941
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: what we need from you. Start now, he's doubt and

942
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: heard skills. Wow. In Dominican Sue is the guy last year,

943
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: so we'll see. Um, I was surprised you had Chris

944
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: Long in the top twenty by your logic with JPP,

945
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: you had Chris Longham. Chris Long has ten fingers. Can

946
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: I can I head over to the uh the beach

947
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: bench with Mark Sessler to ask you a question, Mark,

948
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 1: who do you believe will be the most overpaid player

949
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: in the top ninety nine overpaid? It's a wild question. Um,

950
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: didn't we just have this exercise and written form? I

951
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: mean I think it's written potentially j APP, because I

952
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: fall very much in line with Chris were like, I

953
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 1: want to I don't want to invest in a player

954
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: that potentially can't tackle. You know who, maybe Malik Jackson.

955
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: Who was your answer when we wrote it? You don't remember,

956
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: like was that over because oh for that, just for

957
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: that situation and come back to us. I'd have to look.

958
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, Oh I had I had Bruce Servant,

959
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: all right, tell us about Bruce. Every everybody just just

960
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: wipe out everything. The last I was like, oh, this

961
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: is cool. I can just relax. The next no one's

962
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: gonna call on me. Was this. I don't even know

963
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: if this was overpaid, but I think the Bruce Servant

964
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: things on the beach, yeah, it is paid too much.

965
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: I think Bruce Servant is the kind of guy that,

966
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: like a lot of players coming out of that Seattle

967
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: what did you what did you hit before you going

968
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: out to the beach bench? What do you mean? I

969
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: don't know in the morning, right, Why would Bruce Irvan overpaid?

970
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 1: Because I think he's a pass Rushers and cornerbacks tend

971
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: to get overpaid in free agency and then they leave

972
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: the you know, super Bowl level defense they're on. They

973
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: go to a bad defense where you don't have the

974
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: supporting cast around Bruce Servant that's helped make him what

975
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: he is. And he's a good player, but he's gonna

976
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: get overpaid, no no doubt my mind, the Falcons and

977
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: be part of a bad defense. Let me throw out

978
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: a name here because the if you really want to

979
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: get spooked, if you're a team that really needs to

980
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: rebuild your offense in a hurry, um, take a look

981
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: at the wide receiver class. Because you have Marvin Jones,

982
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: who I I like a receiver. I think he could

983
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: he could uh kind of take the next step and

984
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: in the right position, kind of like a Golden Tate

985
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: next step guy like him a lot. Mohammed Sanu though

986
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: his uh um Jones teammate at Cincinnati's number two on

987
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: your guys list of wide receivers, number sixty one overall,

988
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: and you you put him in the nice sub subhead category,

989
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: which I agree with needs the right role. If he

990
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: goes to a team and he gets paid number two

991
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 1: receiver type money four oh, he's fourth Boden and Travis

992
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: Benjamin or ahead of Okay, he's number fo war and

993
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: if you give him number two wide receiver type money,

994
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: I mean, if you watch this guy attracted his career

995
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: at all. He can disappear for stretches, doesn't always catch

996
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: the ball. Uh classic And I think Connor or wrote

997
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: a peace during Combine week house. Maybe it's not a

998
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: great thing to have ton of money in free agency

999
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: because you might overpay for a guy that said, we'll

1000
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: be putting a bad role right. Most of these guys

1001
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: that make it are solid starters. They're not superstars or

1002
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: else their team would keep them. Uh. Our NFL media

1003
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: insider I rap Wars sent us an email while while

1004
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: we've been up here, just kind of think his name

1005
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: off your lips, bro, thinking about guys who he thinks

1006
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna do very well in free agency that might

1007
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: not be getting a lot of attention. And there are

1008
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: a lot of our favorite players Chris on our list

1009
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: we did agree for the most part, and most most

1010
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: guys William Hayes from the Rams, who has been one

1011
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: of the best rotational ends for a while, Patrick Robinson,

1012
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: who has had a couple of good years at quarterback,

1013
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: Danny Trevathan Jay Howard, who's who made our list the

1014
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: best bargain picks. Maybe he not going to be a

1015
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: bargain ian thinks he might get eight That's right, eight figures,

1016
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: which means he would be making ten million a year.

1017
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: Jay Alaric, that's a little too rich for my blood.

1018
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: Brandon Brooks, Robert as Lair, Darius Screen who he likes.

1019
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of those kind of middle tier

1020
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: guys that wind up getting big time, big time juice.

1021
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: Anybody want to throw out one more overpaid guy or

1022
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: do we want to move on to uh, the best

1023
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: values the guy that Jeah for nice. Let's move on

1024
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: to that and we'll start with Chris Wesley on the West.

1025
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: Who is someone in this top ninety nine that you

1026
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: can get on the cheap, relatively and could make a

1027
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: big difference In Twilight, I wrote about Dwayne Allen, but

1028
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: since we already talked about him, I will go with

1029
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: the other guy, Derek Shelby from the Dolphins. I watched

1030
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: his film because he intrigued me. I remember watching him

1031
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: at the end of the year when he was filling

1032
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: in for Cameron Wake. He's a really strong run defender

1033
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: with really strong hands, and he pushed his offensive lineman

1034
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: back into quarterbacks. He was batting a pass per game

1035
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: in December, bat down one past per game. He's never

1036
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 1: gonna be quick enough to be like a double digit

1037
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: sack guy, but he's a do everything defensive in I'll

1038
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: give you one. Uh, Mitchell Schwartz right tackle. I think

1039
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: that he a couple of seasons ago had real issues

1040
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: and was probably the weak spot of that Brown's line.

1041
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: But he uh, he's grown a lot. I think that

1042
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: you could probably get him at right tackle for he's

1043
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: gonna get paid, but you're not gonna have to break

1044
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: the bank for him, and he's young. Could center your

1045
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: offense around him, your offensive line around him for a

1046
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: long time. Walter Thurmont too. Maybe it's safety. Walter Thurman

1047
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: had a really good year. Like, Yeah, I'm a little

1048
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: surprised May switched. They aren't going too crazy to keep him,

1049
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: it sounds like, but maybe they just they've spent a

1050
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: lot of money. If you think about what they've done

1051
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: this offseason, I've been I'm doing this piece. West is

1052
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: doing the a f C version I'm doing NFC team

1053
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: needs heading into free agency. He Goles have a pretty

1054
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: good roster. I don't think that's a bad team to

1055
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: take over. They resigned Vinny Curry, They've resigned Bradford of

1056
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: course their defense. Um, who's your guy? Dan? I got?

1057
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: I have a couple of we have a written, we

1058
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: have a written. He's for a lot of this free

1059
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: agent business, free agent bargains. You can find it on

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Speaker 1: It's in the centerpiece right now, at least as the

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Speaker 1: taping of his podcast on the homepage Little Industry Insider Talk.

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Speaker 1: But I like more than certainly Greg Rosenthal. I like

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00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller a lot. I think that, uh don't if

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Speaker 1: he ends up with the team that takes advantage of

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00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: his talents, I think he can uh really make a

1066
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Speaker 1: big difference. And since running backs don't get paid, I

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00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: think he'll have value. And I also like Chris Ivory

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00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: not with the Jets and and not um, mostly because

1069
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: they have so many issues. Well, he'd look great with

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00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots, wouldn't he. I do not like to imagine that,

1071
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: but I totally you would give him a hundred and sixty.

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00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: He basically would replace legera blunt right and be a

1073
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: much better version of hun same thing with Lamar Miller.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to give him too many And that's

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00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: why I'm just gonna I threw it out there in

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00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: the piece. How about if you need a complete reboot,

1077
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: and you don't want to go through the draft. You

1078
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: signed both Chris Ivory and Lamar Miller. That's a nice

1079
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: one to punch. Come on, get excited people. I mean, Chris,

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00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: you wont you won some games and you know September

1081
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: to December. Let's let's start winning some games in January February.

1082
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: Come to the Patriots. I like that at fourte would

1083
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 1: be another one. And because of what you said, running

1084
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: backs are so cheap, someone's gonna pay a third for

1085
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: Matt Forte this season. Of what a guy like Jay

1086
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: Howard is gonna make just for this season, just for

1087
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: one season. There's no way he is not going to

1088
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: help your team. I think Chase Daniel who he mentioned,

1089
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 1: and and a guy right next to your guy, Derek Shelby,

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00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: who I like, Nick Fairley. I know, I know he's

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00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: a he's a risk off the field, but I'm telling

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00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: you he's a difference maker. He question he questioned Mario

1093
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: Williams work ethic and motors, and you go out promoting

1094
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: Nick Fairley. Well, it's all relative. You're not gonna I

1095
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna have to pay him an insane

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00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: amount of money, and I think he played pretty well

1097
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: for the Rams last year. I'll throw out another one,

1098
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: but just because I'm loyal to the making the leap

1099
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: Klan and the the entire roster dating back to two

1100
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Speaker 1: thousand thirteen. Ladarius Green, who came earlier today, He's You

1101
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: could probably get him very cheap. You put him in

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00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: the right offense a little bit with a good pass, sir,

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00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: and you and you put him in a role where

1104
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: you can spread the field, he might be a breakout guy.

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00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: You won't have to pay a lot for him. He

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00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: is someone you talked about watching the tape. He was

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00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: really impressive last year. He to me, had a breakout

1108
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: season without the numbers to back it up, because he

1109
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: just wasn't a big enough part of that offense and

1110
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: he had to stay into block and he missed a

1111
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: couple of games injured. I thought he was really good

1112
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: for that team. I'm gonna throw out one more name.

1113
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: It is just a weird name. He would be in

1114
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: the top three if there was no nothing going on

1115
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: with him. Alden Smith remember him. Do you sign a

1116
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: guy that's could you get think a little left field

1117
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: and sign a guy that suspended for the for the

1118
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: first half of the season. That even allowed what was

1119
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: signed Darryl Washington. While you're at it, well he's on

1120
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Speaker 1: the car, does though um negotiating with O. J. Simpson

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00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: to be a pro player In persons, true, I always

1122
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: liked the guys that you take a chance, and we didn't.

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Speaker 1: We didn't rank Greg Hardy high at all. He was

1124
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: he was buried. Other free agent added to the breaking

1125
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: news just came across the wire on Twitter. And I

1126
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: don't know if he makes your top ninety nine. He does.

1127
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: Roddy White released by the thought he will not be

1128
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: in the top two hundred. Wow, that's just mean. I mean,

1129
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: we don't even have a top two hundred. Almost singlehandedly

1130
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: sambotaged the Falcons offense. Damn was I know that's fine,

1131
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: but this is one of my favorite receivers of the

1132
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: last decade. He's had a great career. I had a

1133
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: great career. But this is the end. Well that's Chris

1134
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: Westling colon, Roddy White, the John Wilkes booth of Falcons offense.

1135
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: In you don't think I will get a job? I

1136
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: was overstated. He he failed. He couldn't separate for two

1137
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: years straight now and the Falcons had no speed on

1138
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: their offense after Julio Jones, so that was a problem,

1139
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: all right, Jacob Tammy's a slow tight end and they

1140
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: had nominal meder. I never understood the articles that were

1141
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: saying they were going to keep right anyway, So I

1142
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: think that Dy White was writing those articles and Kwan

1143
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: Balden can't separate from anyone, and he's like number forty. Well,

1144
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm bold is one of the most physical wide receivers

1145
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: in NFL history. Though, this is the second Roddy White

1146
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 1: to get the boot from the Falcons in two years.

1147
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: Remember the guy Roddy White who was piping in crowd noise?

1148
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: We could totally it's sae, it's what they need to

1149
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: do A thirty for thirty on that that the too

1150
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: Roddy Whites forget that too? Uh what is it that

1151
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: to the two Escobars, the too Roddy White. I think

1152
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: you should be respectful to of internal promotion. It should

1153
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: be a football life that we do know, and you

1154
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: were great. I went overboard, and I apologize to Roddy White.

1155
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: He's had a great career. What did Wilkes Booth say

1156
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: after he assassinated Lincoln six semper tyrannus something like that.

1157
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: Other than that, how is the play Mrs Lincoln was

1158
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: in him get a copy about catching the Ryan his pocket?

1159
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: When he did? Then, yes, what is that's? That's Lennon's

1160
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: assassin that. Oh see, things are a little weird over

1161
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: on the beach bench. You know, I don't know where

1162
00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: you're coming from and something. Do you think that I

1163
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: actually thought that someone in a Lincoln civilization, Lincoln era

1164
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: America was sharing capture of the Rye around in their pocket.

1165
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: That's what I considered fact. Okay, listen, sorry, I could

1166
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: see you being a big Salinger guy when you were younger. Okay, yeah,

1167
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. My friend and I tried to

1168
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: find his house, couldn't find it. You were not the

1169
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: first you have a movie about that. I know. Then

1170
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: it became cliche. We tried it earlier, you tried it

1171
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: before Field of Dreams. What Okay, I got where you're

1172
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: going West. But it's all right, So let's let's stick

1173
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: a pin in our free agency talk. It doesn't mean

1174
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: it's over because next time we uh we join you,

1175
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 1: which will be Monday, we'll we'll continue to talk free

1176
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: agents West you're heading off the Tybee Island. Uh he.

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00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: It's masked loosely as a charitable endeavor, but it's really

1178
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: a place for you to recover from bronchitis and have

1179
00:58:54,440 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: a what's the charity again, what's the name? It's Tybee

1180
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: teen Cuisine And I to my Twitter page. I have

1181
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: the tweet pinned with all the details if you would

1182
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: like to give to charity. You know, I make one

1183
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: joke and Greg's like, that's not fair. Well, I was

1184
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: distracted because of your incorrect information you gave all our listeners.

1185
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: We have a show on Thursday with Lindsay Road. Do

1186
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: you don't have to wait till Monday to listen. That's

1187
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna be coming back at you with a big

1188
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: time star Lindsay. Yes. No, I'm not going to Tybee

1189
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: to recover. I think that would be impossible. I'm worried

1190
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: that you come back in the box. I've said that.

1191
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: I thought we were maybe gonna call West on Tybee

1192
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: while you were there, but there was some discussion. You know,

1193
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: we always had the call West whenever Western Tybee. We

1194
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: gotta get on the horn and call up huck A

1195
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: Poo's And that's the best place to reach west, which

1196
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: is a little uh a beachside bar on this island

1197
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: off the coast of Georgia. Correct, you have called Hucka

1198
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: Poos and I think I've been there almost every time

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Speaker 1: you called. When you walk in, is it like a

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00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: norm moment? Yeah? I was like, well it is. It's

1201
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: my face replaced. I mean, you have your softball jersey

1202
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: retired there, don't you. It's so big, like, yeah, there's

1203
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: a big it's not a statue, but it's like a

1204
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: big softball with my name on it on the ceiling.

1205
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: How many people are in there at nine thirty eight

1206
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: in the morning. Nobody. I think it's still locked at

1207
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: Is there any resentment among the islanders about um, you

1208
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: moving to the big city out west, so when you

1209
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: come home and you're getting shower of praise. Is there

1210
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: any guy in the corner and being like that dirty westling,

1211
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: I'll get him? I don't think so. These are some

1212
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: of my dearest friends. I don't think there's anyone. But

1213
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: you never know about the element because you haven't been there.

1214
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: Like I'm too cool for school now, like I'm too

1215
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: good for they. I don't think you are. But maybe

1216
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,439
Speaker 1: there's someone on the island. And there could be someone

1217
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: in the corner who's like, oh Wesley moved to l

1218
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: a that quit West I'll show him there could there

1219
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: could be a villain lurking that you don't suspect. It's

1220
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: all tofu and spray hands. Now he's trying to inspire

1221
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: drama now in other places too, He's like, go after

1222
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: him Tybee. I know you're listening that quest wrestling, hell

1223
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: get Hays. If it's the last thing I do. Yes,

1224
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: we'll be back Thursday. Um. The old guy from the

1225
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: amusement park on Scooby Doo is no now hanging out

1226
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: in Tybees. Yes, so Lindsay steps in for Chris Westling.

1227
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: That is quite a change. Uh in terms of roster

1228
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: we will also, um, just because you're a lot different

1229
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:25,479
Speaker 1: as people, not better or you know, we will also.

1230
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: We meant to do it today but ran out of time.

1231
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: iTunes comments, Uh have to wait the good and the bad. Uh,

1232
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: We'll do that on Thursday. But that's it. That's it

1233
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: for this show. Thank you for listening. This is Dan

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01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: hands As signing off. Four Quiet storm over on the

1235
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: beach bench, the mailman, the boss and I see it

1236
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: behind the Glass One more show, Darling, it's down Thursday,