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Speaker 1: Hi, SHANEA.

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Speaker 2: Good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for being with this. Shana Rubin, you

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Speaker 1: can find her on x at Shana Rumin. That's s

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Speaker 1: h A y n A r U b i N.

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Speaker 2: She just wrote.

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Speaker 1: The Giants are losing ground fast and running out of

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Speaker 1: games to catch up. I tell you what, you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: The calendar is not in their favor. What do you say,

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Speaker 1: do they get in or not?

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Speaker 3: I mean they're running out of time and the kind

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Speaker 3: of lost their opportunity here against some division fos. So

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Speaker 3: it's it feels like a miracle needs to happen for

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Speaker 3: them to crack the wild card and the Met's one yesterday.

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Speaker 3: They've got the Arizona Diamondbacks that breathing down their back.

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Speaker 3: They got the Cincinnati Reds also in there. So it's

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Speaker 3: it's the room is closing in on them, uh, and

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Speaker 3: they're not really playing their best ball. They have a

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Speaker 3: very tax pitching staff, and it's just feels feels less

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Speaker 3: and less likely, especially just given the four game losing

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Speaker 3: streak there on.

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Speaker 4: Right now, because this team was built not on in

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Speaker 4: my opinion, not on superstars like as far as like

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Speaker 4: everybody can hit the ball, so well and everything besides Raffy,

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Speaker 4: besides you know, almost thirty homers by Willie. Did it

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Speaker 4: feel like the wins went out of the sale when

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Speaker 4: they went back to back games. Logan Web and Robbie

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Speaker 4: Ray they're two aces, they're two best pitchers, and they

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Speaker 4: gave up eleven runs combined between the two of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like there was a major momentum shift

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Speaker 3: because the offense was really powering through the last couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks, and it was that's that's really what powered

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Speaker 3: them through the winning stretch.

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Speaker 2: That they were on.

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Speaker 3: Raffi Devers was smashing the ball, Willie Domas was following suit,

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Speaker 3: everyone else was kind of following suit when Devers sort

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Speaker 3: of caught fire a little bit, And I think that

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Speaker 3: they were really riding the high of what their offense

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Speaker 3: can potentially do. So you were seeing not only glimpses of, oh,

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Speaker 3: this is what the team can look like if they

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Speaker 3: really make a run at the postseas, but also a

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Speaker 3: glimpse of what the team can look like next year

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Speaker 3: is at their best. So there was sort of a

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Speaker 3: lot of hope riding high on you know, how capable

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Speaker 3: they looked Over a couple series, and the wind definitely

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Speaker 3: sort of got knocked out when the pitching staff, that

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Speaker 3: the workload from the bullpen and the starting rotation started

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Speaker 3: to catch up to them, and it caught out to

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Speaker 3: them at the worst time against the Dodgers. And I

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Speaker 3: think that right now you're sort of seeing the trickle

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Speaker 3: down of of that.

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Speaker 4: Do you feel like this team was built to one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent win this year? This is Buster Posey's first year,

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Speaker 4: and Buster would never say, oh, I would never concede

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Speaker 4: a season. That's just not who he is. He wasn't

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Speaker 4: like that as a player. But until they had gotten

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Speaker 4: Raffie and obviously you get Raffi Devers, you're like, hey,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna win. Do you think they were really built

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Speaker 4: to win this year or do you feel like this

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Speaker 4: is kind of a little bit of an over achievement

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Speaker 4: and going into next year now we're going to make

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Speaker 4: that final piece that's going to push us across the

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Speaker 4: finish line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you sort of nailed it there.

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Speaker 3: I think obviously they're never going to say, you know,

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Speaker 3: this is a discovery year for us, so we're trying

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Speaker 3: to sort of hone in on our identity. But they

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Speaker 3: came into the season a completely different organization. They have

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Speaker 3: a completely different guy in charge, completely different guys in charge.

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Speaker 3: So even though they're going to say we want to

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Speaker 3: win and this is a winning year and we want

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Speaker 3: to contend, and they spent in a way that is

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Speaker 3: meant to content, I think that what we're seeing now

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Speaker 3: and the ups and downs and the significant trade on

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Speaker 3: June thirteenth to get Devers and some of the trades

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Speaker 3: at the deadline to reconfigure their bullpen, which was their

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Speaker 3: strongest suit when they were winning. You're seeing that they

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Speaker 3: were competing even though they were going had signs ups

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Speaker 3: and downs, but they're also an underlying purpose of finding

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Speaker 3: their identity, finding out who they want to be next year,

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Speaker 3: sort of rounding into a more complete team. And even

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Speaker 3: though right now they're in a little bit of a skit,

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Speaker 3: it feels like uh and the fans notice it too.

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Speaker 3: They're they're showing up a little bit more than they

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Speaker 3: were last year. I think they're starting to become more

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Speaker 3: more clear heading into the offseason and maybe next year.

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Speaker 5: You forgot that they had a four nothing they had

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Speaker 5: last night also Shana by the way and lost that.

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Speaker 5: So let's not forget that. But what is their identity?

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Speaker 5: What you're saying, it's become clear, what's their identity?

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 6: Is it?

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Speaker 5: Raffie Devers and eight other guys and Willia Damas, like,

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Speaker 5: what is it?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 5: Logan Webb, Robbie Ray and Justin Verlander?

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Speaker 2: Next year?

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Speaker 5: What is their identity? Because they traded away a lot

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Speaker 5: of their bullpen, they've they've made some moves, they have

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Speaker 5: some aging veteran starters. What is their identity for the

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Speaker 5: years going forward?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because I think I mean not, I

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Speaker 3: think it's pretty clear. Going into the year, the proclaimed

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Speaker 3: identity was that they're pitching and defense team, and they

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Speaker 3: kind of shifted more towards you know, we got more

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Speaker 3: power and thumb in the in the heart of the lineup,

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Speaker 3: and there's some good defensive players. But I wouldn't say

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Speaker 3: that that's been the identity of this team at all.

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Speaker 2: I think that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you have Matt Chapman, who's probably one of

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Speaker 3: the best, if not the best, third basement in baseball.

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Speaker 3: You got one of the best, Patrick Bailey, best catcher

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Speaker 3: in baseball. But they a lot of what went wrong

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Speaker 3: had to do with sort of the missteps and fundamentals

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Speaker 3: and the pitching staff. You know, they have a pretty

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Speaker 3: good one two three, but in the rotation, but they

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Speaker 3: went through a lot of transformations in the in the bullpen,

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Speaker 3: and and a lot of the young pitching didn't really

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Speaker 3: live up to with the exceptional Land and Roupe didn't

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Speaker 3: live up to expectation. So the pitching and defense identity

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Speaker 3: seems to be a little bit more in flux. And

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Speaker 3: it seems like that that's not to say that they

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Speaker 3: don't have a lot of good options that always add

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Speaker 3: some pitching, but it feels like there's more of an

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Speaker 3: emphasis on the offense, the bats and having sort of

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Speaker 3: a more powerful offense than maybe it seemed that they

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Speaker 3: you know, it's it's right now. It feels like they

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Speaker 3: go when their offense goes, they go, when Devers goes,

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Speaker 3: they go when a Damas and Chapman and maybe Jung

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Speaker 3: is swing is maybe and I say the identity is

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Speaker 3: getting clearer. Maybe it's just sort of we're starting to

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Speaker 3: see more of what the Posey front office is looking

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Speaker 3: to direct next year towards.

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Speaker 4: So these last two weeks, these last eleven games, are

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Speaker 4: we going to be able to tell how they're going

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Speaker 4: to use Bryce Eldred next year because he sat against

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Speaker 4: the lefty. No, he sat against the lefty last night.

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Speaker 4: I supposed to be the most elite a power prospect

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Speaker 4: that the Giants have ever had ever, more than Brandon Bell,

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Speaker 4: more than any of these guys. And he sits in

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Speaker 4: his second game in the big leagues against Eduardo Rodriguez,

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Speaker 4: not like he's not sitting against Chris Sale, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think what we're seeing now is probably not what

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Speaker 3: they want to envision for Bryce Elders in the future.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he kind of came up in a situation

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Speaker 3: left handed bat. No, the left handed bat infielder. He's

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Speaker 3: not going to play first base to our understanding. But

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Speaker 3: I think that what we're seeing right now him, I

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Speaker 3: don't think that. I think the future Bryce Elders, they

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Speaker 3: would not want him to be sitting against left hand

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Speaker 3: or they see him as a future cornerstone of the franchise.

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Speaker 3: So if if that's the case, then what we're seeing

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Speaker 3: right now is definitely not what we would see next

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Speaker 1: Team, Shana, when you think of cornerstones of the Giants,

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Speaker 1: I always used to think, of course, and I still

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Speaker 1: do to a certain extent, of Buster Posey, And I

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Speaker 1: just don't feel like this team has been the same

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Speaker 1: since Buster Posey was not behind that, you know, not

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Speaker 1: doing what he does offensively as well. I mean, are

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Speaker 1: they still kind of searching for that? It's kind of

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Speaker 1: like the Cardinals with Yadi or Morelna, right when Yatty

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Speaker 1: decided to retire. Are they still searching for that quintessential

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Speaker 1: starting catcher that just kind of leads the way the

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Speaker 1: way that Buster did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that it's not only just a starting catcher,

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Speaker 3: but a leader in general. I think they're looking for

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Speaker 3: sort of. I think every team ideally would like to

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Speaker 3: have a player like Buster where they're the star of

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Speaker 3: the show, They're the face of the franchise. The young

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Speaker 3: get called up to the time that they potentially lead

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Speaker 3: them to greatness.

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Speaker 2: That's that's sort of the dream situation.

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Speaker 3: And I think that the pursuit of Raphael Devers was

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Speaker 3: the front office's acknowledgment that they want to have not

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Speaker 3: necessarily just a leader, but someone that is compelling in

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Speaker 3: the same way that that Buster Posey was compelling and

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Speaker 3: that team was compelling. I mean, Buster says the memory

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Speaker 3: making he said, they want to recreate the memory making business.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just want to They want to get

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Speaker 3: people excited about a star player playing at their home

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Speaker 3: ballpark again. That hasn't really happened since Buster retired. So

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Speaker 3: I think that that's where the conversation with Bryce Eldridge

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Speaker 3: comes in. That's there's this sort of underlying hope or

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Speaker 2: So many years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely hard to replace, There's no question about that.

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Speaker 1: Do you see any reason in which Bob Melvin would

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Speaker 3: I think at one time it felt pretty possible, possible

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Speaker 3: and it definitely was. I think there's always it's always

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Speaker 4: Does Buster Posey have the ability to debunk the narrative

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Speaker 4: they got Willia Damas, Williadomas didn't have, didn't have anybody

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Speaker 4: else that was courting him like that. Does he have

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Speaker 4: he resigned. When he's there, he's loved it. Willia Domas

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Speaker 4: I don't want to play in San Francisco because it'll

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Speaker 4: for it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean I think that there is potentially a change

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Speaker 3: and this guy really understands how to how to sell

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Speaker 3: just watch growing up. Having a guy like that not

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Speaker 2: Good a.

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Speaker 4: Jay krautzy Go, First, Oh, my question is on My

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Speaker 4: question is on Justin Erlander. He came in maybe like

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Speaker 4: the outside chance of getting closer to that three hundred

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Speaker 4: didn't happen this year. Three wins isn't going to do it,

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Speaker 4: but his era is now below a four day in

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Speaker 4: like there's another year? Probably not in a Giant's uniform.

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Speaker 4: For Justin Verlander in Major League basball, I.

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Speaker 2: Would say, I would say so.

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Speaker 3: I think that even just the way that you've seen

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Speaker 3: at a high level. Still, I think that the a

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Speaker 3: but that's mostly just to do with the fact that

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Speaker 3: he's really he's arguably been, you know, one of their.

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Speaker 2: Best starters, and I would be I would be. He

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Speaker 2: hasn't given any declarative.

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Speaker 3: Definitive answers one way or the other to us, but

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Speaker 3: I would be surprised if this was.

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Speaker 2: It for him.

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to play forever.

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Speaker 2: I think he wants to.

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Speaker 3: Taste.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he does, three hundred wins is important.

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Speaker 5: Shana are you you're at the ballpark, I'm guessing right

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Speaker 5: now by your back.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Do you just take.

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Speaker 5: Your computer and move it a little bit, because that's

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Speaker 5: the one ballpark I've never done a game in, So

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Speaker 5: I actually want to know what the press box looks like.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm in a printer room.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, well you showed me that, because that's more.

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Speaker 5: That's more than I've ever seen of Chase Field. So

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Speaker 5: just if you can just see the.

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Speaker 2: Camera, the essence of Chase Field.

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Speaker 7: All right, looks looks cozy, all right, Yeah, definitely doesn't

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you that right now. So it's a.

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Speaker 3: Little bit different vibe here, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: Not bad, it's just different, Yeah, very different.

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Speaker 1: It's a dry heat, remember that, SHANEA. We appreciate it

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Speaker 1: very much. We appreciate the inside. Good luck the rest

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Speaker 1: of the way. Hopefully we'll be talking San Francisco in

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Speaker 1: the postseason. According to AJ, it's not gonna happen. The

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Speaker 1: Mets are in, but time will tell. Shane rub And

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you taking the time to be with us

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Speaker 1: on foul.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me