Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me
Speaker 1: Tracy Moore. I was a casting director for film and
Speaker 1: TV and commercials for over thirty years. I transitioned to
Speaker 1: a celebrity acting coach after I cast a film New
Speaker 1: Jersey Drive with executive producers Spike Lee and director Nick Domez.
Speaker 1: I auditioned every rapper from Biggie Smalls to Tupac, and
Speaker 1: I realized that rappers and musical artists they needed help
Speaker 1: transitioning to acting. My clients consist of musical artists from
Speaker 1: Buster Rhymes to Eve, Missy Elliott, Angela Yee from The
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, and Vanessa Simmons to name a few. I
Speaker 1: also coach sports stars and host as well. I feel
Speaker 1: I have the best of both worlds. As a casting director,
Speaker 1: I know exactly what they're looking for, and as an
Speaker 1: acting coach, I can coach you to be remembered in
Speaker 1: that room. Now I know, I know actors want to
Speaker 1: get the job. I get that, but being remembered by
Speaker 1: casting director that is powerful. And now it's time for
Speaker 1: meditation of the day. To love oneself is the beginning
Speaker 1: of a lifelong romance. Oscar Wilde, who I have to
Speaker 1: say amen to that one, because we need to love
Speaker 1: ourselves more. One of the questions that I ask in
Speaker 1: my private sessions is how do you celebrate yourself? And
Speaker 1: I can tell you that fifty percent of the people
Speaker 1: that I ask that they don't. Actually it's probably seventy percent.
Speaker 1: I'm being nice, but people don't celebrate themselves every day.
Speaker 1: I have a challenge for you. It's not TikTok, it's
Speaker 1: not you know, Instagram. It's just a Tracy challenge. And
Speaker 1: I want to challenge all of you to celebrate yourself
Speaker 1: every single day. And it doesn't have to be with money.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite things is just to walk to
Speaker 1: the park and put my feet in the grass or
Speaker 1: hug a tree. So I want to encourage all of
Speaker 1: you to be good to yourself, to love yourself, and
Speaker 1: to be nice to yourself, because no one is going.
Speaker 2: To do it better than you.
Speaker 1: No one is going to love you as much as
Speaker 1: you love yourself, and the love that you give to
Speaker 1: yourself pours out into others. So today, spend time celebrating
Speaker 1: and loving you. Before we get started, i'd like to
Speaker 1: remind everyone to look out for my new show Inside
Speaker 1: the Black Box. I'll be co hosting with the great
Speaker 1: Joe Morton. We'll be on Crackle Network real soon. I'll
Speaker 1: keep you posted. Welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with
Speaker 1: me Tracy Moore. You guys are not ready. You are
Speaker 1: not ready. I already know this, but you're gonna be ready.
Speaker 1: By the end of this interview, you will be ready.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you. One of the blessings that I
Speaker 1: have in my life is relationships. And when I look
Speaker 1: back at how long I have known this gentleman, it
Speaker 1: is amazing to me that we are still in touch,
Speaker 1: we are still in each other's worlds, and we still
Speaker 1: have a diberic friendship. It's just it's a blessing.
Speaker 2: It's a blessing. Okay.
Speaker 1: I need you guys to understand that you are standing
Speaker 1: on this man's shoulders actors, and I want you to
Speaker 1: also understand that our guest and myself we have fought
Speaker 1: from day one for people of color, and we continue
Speaker 1: to fight for people of color. I need you guys
Speaker 1: to understand that because we're in two thousand, twenty three
Speaker 1: and I have known him at least nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2: Three, ninety four.
Speaker 1: I want to say because I started new York Undercover
Speaker 1: in ninety four, Ladies and Gentlemen, a phenomenal human being,
Speaker 1: A caring, loving, supportive human being for y'all, actors, you
Speaker 1: need to know, because you need to know the people
Speaker 1: that stand by you, fight for you. I want you
Speaker 1: to put your hands together and stand up, stand.
Speaker 2: Up in your living room.
Speaker 1: I want you to put your hands together for casting
Speaker 1: director extraordinaire, producer extraordinay director extraordinary. Ladies and Gentlemen, Please,
Speaker 1: my dear friend, my spiritual brother, U Liftisterrrero.
Speaker 3: Wow. Oh the truth, Oh my lord, what an introduction.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: What's brilliant, Juie. The fact that you have an acting background.
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, I kind of do in San Francisco,
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying you.
Speaker 1: When I met you, you were actively pursuing a career
Speaker 1: as an actor, so you have that understanding. And then
Speaker 1: as a professional, this is what you do. And the
Speaker 1: other day you guys. I saw him on live, I
Speaker 1: heard him, I supported him, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: want him on the podcast to talk to you directly,
Speaker 1: because a lot of things have changed since COVID and
Speaker 1: I have so many similar experiences with Julie. I have
Speaker 1: people I don't know why actors. I don't know why
Speaker 1: you guys think that you can just go out and
Speaker 1: come into this profession with no experience. Why would you
Speaker 1: even want to do that and put yourself out there?
Speaker 1: So I, Julie, I'm giving you the platform. Man, please
Speaker 1: talk to these people. I will interject, but I would
Speaker 1: this is your live again on imart Radio.
Speaker 3: Please, I mean, where do we start? What do we
Speaker 3: talk about? I mean, like I said, you know lately
Speaker 3: for me, like you said, is because of Zoom now
Speaker 3: everyone things they can be an actor now, so you
Speaker 3: get a lot of people that harass you to give
Speaker 3: them an opportunity. When you do, it's like they're terrible
Speaker 3: and it's just like the first question to ask them
Speaker 3: is like you know, what kind of training do you have?
Speaker 3: Like training, I'm a natural? I'm like natural? What disaster?
Speaker 3: Because it's like it's just like I can't no more.
Speaker 3: And then it's like, you know, then there's this new
Speaker 3: thing where it's like this thing called influencers now, right,
Speaker 3: so if you bought a million followers, now you think
Speaker 3: I want to put you in a movie. You know,
Speaker 3: but it's like you have to be a good actor
Speaker 3: and ninety nine out of one hundred. Influencers that come
Speaker 3: into the casting are really bad because telling jokes on Instagram,
Speaker 3: we're showing your butt or whatever people are doing to
Speaker 3: get numbers. That's one thing. But acting, it's a craft,
Speaker 3: it's an art form, it's a you know, it's a
Speaker 3: career that you have to manifest. You have to you
Speaker 3: have to train, you have to study like it's a
Speaker 3: full time gig, you know, to get the rewards that
Speaker 3: everybody wants. People want to be like on a serious
Speaker 3: regular on a TV show on a big network, but
Speaker 3: you have to be brilliant to get that opportunity, and
Speaker 3: it takes years. There's no naturals on a TV series.
Speaker 3: You know, anybody in the TV series was a natural.
Speaker 3: I was a natural that got a little independent film,
Speaker 3: woke up, smelled the coffee. Then they trained, and then
Speaker 3: they eventually twenty years later, got that opportunity. So you know,
Speaker 3: like I said, you know, we've both been blessed to
Speaker 3: have a lot of you know, uh, celebrity friends because
Speaker 3: we knew them before they were celebrities and now right
Speaker 3: now they're big, and you know, we might've had our
Speaker 3: hands in that a little bit so they give the
Speaker 3: love and pop up to our classes and stuff, and
Speaker 3: you know, like Louis school Smann. You know, I know
Speaker 3: if you guys know who that is. Yes, he's on
Speaker 3: you know, he's the father on Wednesdays he was you know,
Speaker 3: Colito's wave Wan Pachanga. But but you know, east comes
Speaker 3: to many of my classes and you know he said, uh.
Speaker 3: He was a social worker in the projects, no Eastside project.
Speaker 3: And the friend of his, you know, kept telling me
Speaker 3: should be a movie. She be a movie. She read
Speaker 3: movies and give him an opportunity. And he did a
Speaker 3: little movie and he was so great for everybody loved him.
Speaker 3: So they gave him another opportunity and another opportunity. Then
Speaker 3: he got Miami Vice, a big role, and that's when
Speaker 3: he realized he couldn't act and was like, oh shit,
Speaker 3: this thing is hard. And then he went to the
Speaker 3: actor's studio, you know, when he was in Miami Advice,
Speaker 3: he went to the actors studio because that's when he realized, Okay,
Speaker 3: these one line is just cool. Being myself is cool,
Speaker 3: but to get the real money, you have to do
Speaker 3: these pages that somebody else wrote, these characters that somebody
Speaker 3: else created, that's nothing like you, and you got to
Speaker 3: figure out how to become the person on the page.
Speaker 3: And that's when he realized he had to study. You know,
Speaker 3: I want.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you because like I stress to
Speaker 1: all actors that they have to read aloud every single day,
Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty five days a year, like when
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan was practicing every night the free.
Speaker 2: Throws and stuff.
Speaker 1: Because in my experience and just wanting to get your input,
Speaker 1: people can't read Ulie. They cannot read. And when I
Speaker 1: say that to them, I'm saying breathing life into the words.
Speaker 1: Because you know this too, because you know a lot
Speaker 1: of directors and we.
Speaker 2: Got to give a shout out to Jesse. Got to
Speaker 2: give a shout out because that's why that's what I
Speaker 2: do too. Love be so Jesse, But directors.
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with Benny Boom, and Benny was saying,
Speaker 1: like maybe two takes Tracy, maybe two, so there's no
Speaker 1: longer coming on set warm up. You know, you got
Speaker 1: to come on Volcanic cop That's what I tell them, right,
Speaker 1: and have at least ten I say, ten to fifteen
Speaker 1: choices every scene you're doing, so you can have your
Speaker 1: archives to pull out right. But the reading is challenging
Speaker 1: for me, Yulie, because I had a reading for a
Speaker 1: project that I had cast two years ago, and it
Speaker 1: was so difficult getting through that reading because a lot
Speaker 1: of the actors don't know how to read and blow life.
Speaker 1: They're just reading, And I say to them, we don't
Speaker 1: hire readers, We hire characters. Characters have characteristics and.
Speaker 2: They do things.
Speaker 1: So in terms of like, you know, I want you
Speaker 1: to speak on reading, but what other things do you
Speaker 1: highly recommend and stress to these young actors out here.
Speaker 2: Who just think all I need to do is just
Speaker 2: memorize some lines.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like I said, that's what I encourage
Speaker 3: not to do. You know, what I encourage is to
Speaker 3: understand the character. You know, like, like, who is this character?
Speaker 3: You know, what's the relationship with the person you're talking to,
Speaker 3: what's the purpose of the conversation, what's your goal? You know?
Speaker 3: Where are you outside? Is it cold? Is it how
Speaker 3: are you sitting down? You know? How you dressed? How
Speaker 3: do you feel? You know? You know, you know, understanding
Speaker 3: and sometimes this is given in the script, but sometimes
Speaker 3: it's not. And if it's not, you know, you have
Speaker 3: to with the With the majority the information you got,
Speaker 3: you got to make a call or judgment and go,
Speaker 3: you know what, this guy's from here, you know she's
Speaker 3: from there. You know this is the and create the
Speaker 3: backstory because without a backstory, you're only going to be
Speaker 3: the lines. But once you know the objective of the
Speaker 3: scene and the characters and the relationship, now the words
Speaker 3: can come out like the director would like them for
Speaker 3: them to come out. For example, if the line is like, hey,
Speaker 3: how you doing right, and you just the lines, you go, hey,
Speaker 3: how you doing right? But if you know the backstory,
Speaker 3: and the backstory is like, this is the guy who
Speaker 3: was screwing around with your wife for two years? Who's
Speaker 3: your best friend who just found that has been screwing
Speaker 3: your wife? You know, how are you going to say that? Now?
Speaker 3: Now you're be like you no, hey, how you doing?
Speaker 3: You know, like the tune's going to be different, you know.
Speaker 3: And that's what a lot of people, most new actors
Speaker 3: or want to be actors or or or you know,
Speaker 3: first time actors do. They just worry about memorizing these lines,
Speaker 3: and that's how they're coming. Hey, how you doing? How's
Speaker 3: everything okay? Cool? You know what I'm going to kill
Speaker 3: you tomorrow, and it's like, wait a minute, yeah, it
Speaker 3: just happened here. But when you know the backstories, like hey,
Speaker 3: how you doing. You know you're dying tomorrow, right, you know,
Speaker 3: you're like, oh wow, this versus an actor. They did
Speaker 3: the work. But like I said, this is not this
Speaker 3: is stuff that you know they learned in your class,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. These are things you just
Speaker 3: said some things right now. I was like, well, that's
Speaker 3: a good idea. I don't think I've ever done that before.
Speaker 3: So I just learned the jewel talking to you right now,
Speaker 3: you know so.
Speaker 1: So, but it's vice versa, and like I want the
Speaker 1: audience to know that. Like when I first started casting,
Speaker 1: there were like five casting directors, including Yulie, that I
Speaker 1: trusted and that I you know, if they needed anything,
Speaker 1: I would refer saying, you know, we we we help
Speaker 1: each other out like that. So it's never I never
Speaker 1: felt competition. I never felt like, oh, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to take a job from.
Speaker 3: You Ley or whatever.
Speaker 1: I felt we were all blessed back then, and we
Speaker 1: were always working, all of us.
Speaker 2: We were always working.
Speaker 1: So I think that that's a great thing for you
Speaker 1: guys to know is that there's no competition between us.
Speaker 2: We share.
Speaker 1: The other thing is is that I encourage people who
Speaker 1: take my class to take your class after, because well,
Speaker 1: I think I think what's really important is that actors
Speaker 1: get a variety of teachers because not everybody is the
Speaker 1: same and not everybody teaches the same. But like, what
Speaker 1: I've started to enforce basically based on you is creating
Speaker 1: sort of this agreement with actors. You know in the
Speaker 1: beginning that talking to Elsa about but you know, homework
Speaker 1: assignments have to be turned in. I'm not giving you
Speaker 1: homework assignments just because I'm playing teacher. I'm giving you
Speaker 1: homework assignments because the business part of it is what
Speaker 1: you need to focus on the business, and the spiritual
Speaker 1: side is knowing and understanding the manifestation process and the
Speaker 1: usage of your words. If you keep telling me you're
Speaker 1: a struggling actor, you're going to be a struggling actor.
Speaker 2: So you need to make adjustments in your words.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: But when people don't.
Speaker 1: Turn in their homework or they turn it in the
Speaker 1: day of when it's supposed to do, what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to teach you, guys is discipline and routine because if
Speaker 1: you're not a morning person, you got to change your
Speaker 1: life if you plan on being an actor, because we
Speaker 1: shoot our shooting schedule, right, you know, if you're late
Speaker 1: all the time, you got to change your life because
Speaker 1: we need you to be on time. We hire business people.
Speaker 1: So I just want to make that clear because that's
Speaker 1: one of.
Speaker 2: The aspects that I love about Julie.
Speaker 1: When some Sinclair, Juli knows our usual suspects who we
Speaker 1: can tap into Yolanda Hunt that are always to assist us.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: But I have a question in terms of you made
Speaker 1: a really good point in terms of the characters in
Speaker 1: your audition, and now with zooms are you finding because
Speaker 1: you know, I always want to give the benefit of
Speaker 1: the doubt, but if you were to put on a percentage,
Speaker 1: what is the percentage of actors in your opinion that
Speaker 1: are not.
Speaker 2: Training?
Speaker 1: Is one thing, but in the zoom being equipped with
Speaker 1: the proper background sound shooting, what is the percentage of
Speaker 1: actors that are really prepared out there?
Speaker 3: Well, it's unfortunate that I'm gonna have to break this
Speaker 3: down good an a racist or a racial a breakdown,
Speaker 3: But if it's a if it's a Corecasian character. We're
Speaker 3: looking for. Maybe nine out of ten are perfect on
Speaker 3: point type we needed. If it's African American, you know,
Speaker 3: I would say nowadays, in twenty twenty three, I would
Speaker 3: say like seven, seven out of ten, you know, sure
Speaker 3: for sure. And if it's Latino or other they two
Speaker 3: percent two out of ten. You know, it's really it's
Speaker 3: really bad. Like I said, The thing is is like
Speaker 3: you know, you know, you know, we come we come
Speaker 3: from from the big beginning of time where there was
Speaker 3: not much color on TV. So we were part of
Speaker 3: that movement. And you know, so I was part of
Speaker 3: the fight. You know, I did the Black Lives Matter did.
Speaker 3: I was part of all that stuff. But now there
Speaker 3: is opportunity, you know for African American actors, there is
Speaker 3: now so now that there's opportunities, you know, African Americans,
Speaker 3: I stepped up to the plate and taking in the opportunities.
Speaker 3: There's still no opportunities for Latinos or you know, why
Speaker 3: spend money to study if there's no future? Why why
Speaker 3: learn what you have to do if there's no auditions. Now,
Speaker 3: if you're Mexican and you live in LA there's there's opportunities.
Speaker 3: You know to a certain degree, you know, but like
Speaker 3: Puerto Rican or Dominican or another type of Latino, like
Speaker 3: if you don't have the standard accident that they actually
Speaker 3: for on TV. Right now, there's two movies right now
Speaker 3: that came out. One is The The Friedo's I think
Speaker 3: it is with Jesse Garcia. Even then there's another one
Speaker 3: that's on Disney with uh uh. It's called The Lorus.
Speaker 3: The Law is something I just saw it today briefly,
Speaker 3: so I don't know the name of it, but you know,
Speaker 3: just a strong actress, the horror of dolorous, something like that.
Speaker 3: But anyway, you know, if you watch, if you see
Speaker 3: the trailers, you know, those are all my friends. I know.
Speaker 3: Everybody knows movies. Wow, And they don't talk like this,
Speaker 3: you know, they had the thought like this, like everyone
Speaker 3: talks like this, like I don't even know if I'm
Speaker 3: doing it right, but it's like it's like if there's
Speaker 3: a Latin role on the I tell you, I tell
Speaker 3: your story. So I was casting this movie for this
Speaker 3: big studio. We were looking for this specific type of actress, right.
Speaker 3: I don't want to, I don't want to in trouble
Speaker 3: with the studios. I won't see the description. But we
Speaker 3: never found her, so the movie never happened. Big studio,
Speaker 3: nice budget starring role for someone of my ethnicity, with
Speaker 3: my complexion, you know, certain specific things to the title
Speaker 3: and young, young actor, and we couldn't find anybody. So
Speaker 3: the movie never happened.
Speaker 1: You know, wow, and they have the financing and everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ten million dollars, big movie and then potentially a
Speaker 3: sitcom afterwards, and we couldn't find it. We found three
Speaker 3: girls that were amazing, but they were just too old
Speaker 3: supposed to be high school. They were like a year
Speaker 3: two old. We had three amazing options, but they were
Speaker 3: a year two old. And then we found one that
Speaker 3: was young, but she didn't want She didn't agree with
Speaker 3: you know, the sources attached to the character. She didn't
Speaker 3: want to play that kind of role. But anyway, but
Speaker 3: the long story shortness, so the character had a mother, right,
Speaker 3: a Latin mother, right. Every single Latin woman that came
Speaker 3: into the audition out of la was like, let's say,
Speaker 3: the girls that was ironic because like, well you're not here,
Speaker 3: why you're not whole? Like they all spoke like that,
Speaker 3: and I was just like vision, but I knew all
Speaker 3: of them. So I was calling, like, what's this terrible?
Speaker 3: Actually you're doing? You said Latina I know, yeah, but
Speaker 3: not like like where is where does that actually come from?
Speaker 3: It was Mexican. Yeah. I'm like like they're like, yo,
Speaker 3: like that's how it is over here. When they say
Speaker 3: Latin in the scripts over there, that's what that means.
Speaker 3: You have to ask. We all learned it. Wow, learned
Speaker 3: that if you watch all the movies like Ozart, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, the new thing is now we're the new
Speaker 3: black now. So now when you do a movie, there's
Speaker 3: a lead black actor, lead female you know, LGTVQ, all
Speaker 3: these characters, and we're the drug dealers now, like we're
Speaker 3: the drug dealers. We're the ones that get killed in
Speaker 3: the first five minutes, which been to African American actors
Speaker 3: twenty years ago. But the good thing is that we
Speaker 3: have the blueprint now. So as Latinas were like, okay,
Speaker 3: this is the blueprint. This is what they did is
Speaker 3: you know, so now as Latinas, we just got to follow.
Speaker 3: The only difference is that you know, like Tyler Perry,
Speaker 3: God bless him so much, like you know, he had support,
Speaker 3: especially from the church, so he did all those plays,
Speaker 3: so we throw that into films. Every single person that's
Speaker 3: seen those plays ran to the movie theaters to support
Speaker 3: this young filmmaker African American and they all ran to
Speaker 3: the movie to this let's support this great guy. And
Speaker 3: he became successful because he had the fan base. If
Speaker 3: you ever go see a Tyler Perry movie in the theater,
Speaker 3: it feels like church, right right, family, the kids, the grandparents,
Speaker 3: there's hallelujah like. It feels like because he had the
Speaker 3: support from the from the church and everybody follow him.
Speaker 3: The black is well, we do it like we can
Speaker 3: follow the blueprint all we want, But if we do
Speaker 3: the Latin Hollywood shuffle, right, are Latinos gonna go see it?
Speaker 3: You know? Probably not? You know, I don't know. Like
Speaker 3: like I said, there was a Baker in The Beauty,
Speaker 3: which is a bunch of great actors, a great show
Speaker 3: on CBS. Nobody, ABC, nobody saw it. But at the
Speaker 3: same time, too, they didn't market it.
Speaker 2: Either, right because they don't know how.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll put a they'll put it on Moondo is
Speaker 3: a Spanish speaking audience English show. The show that'll make
Speaker 3: no sense. Then there was then there was in the Heights,
Speaker 3: you know, which is an attempt of a Broadway show
Speaker 3: turned to film with you know, I.
Speaker 2: Worked with Leslie Grace on that.
Speaker 1: Okay, you were a called me for her awesome, I
Speaker 1: love her.
Speaker 3: But but but nobody saw that show, right, you know,
Speaker 3: and the average Dominican didn't see that show. Oh no,
Speaker 3: because it didn't see didn't You're a fucking hater, right, sorry? Right,
Speaker 3: curse on the show. Sorry. Then then then there was
Speaker 3: a Galita Chronicles, which I'm the one that cast the girl,
Speaker 3: the lead girl, which is a cute family. Nobody saw that.
Speaker 3: Then there was a uh, you know, West Side Story,
Speaker 3: which had a few latinos in there with but but
Speaker 3: nobody saw it might have been Spielberg's worst movie ever
Speaker 3: and probably the most latinos in it. So it's like, so,
Speaker 3: if you're Hollywood, why would you want to do stuff
Speaker 3: with latinos in it? Right?
Speaker 1: If you see that, there's no profit nobody, why is that?
Speaker 2: Why is it that we don't have that support?
Speaker 3: Because because there's so many of us, I said Freddie Rodriguez,
Speaker 3: you know, he did add he did a great movie,
Speaker 3: Nothing but the Holidays. It was a a Christmas story,
Speaker 3: Christmas story with Latinos in it. Every Latino was in that,
Speaker 3: you know, a bunch of Latino actors in that, and
Speaker 3: nobody saw it, you know. And it was a great movie.
Speaker 3: It was about a land family Christmas in Chicago, and
Speaker 3: nobody saw it. You know. So my whole thing is
Speaker 3: like the different the thing is that there's so many
Speaker 3: different Latinos. Right, if the stars of Puerto Rican, then
Speaker 3: everybody else is hating on it, and even the Puerto
Speaker 3: Ricans are hated on it. The if the if the
Speaker 3: movie is Dominicans, no one's seen that. You know. We're like, well,
Speaker 3: African Americans went through in America. That's what we go
Speaker 3: through in the Spanish community. Like we're the blacks of
Speaker 3: the Latin space. Like if you doing hey I'm dating
Speaker 3: a Dominican, It's like, oh, like why are you doing
Speaker 3: that for? You know? Wow?
Speaker 1: So within the culture like us dealing with light skin
Speaker 1: versus dar skiffs.
Speaker 3: But it's worse, it's worse for us in the Latin
Speaker 3: space than in America that we have more racism amongst
Speaker 3: Latinos than we do in America.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: You know. So, like I said, I just directed this
Speaker 3: thing for Amazon. It's called hip hop or Sam, but
Speaker 3: it's spelled hip hop ex shamp it means hip hop forever.
Speaker 3: And this year with the fifty anniversary of hip hop, right, yes,
Speaker 3: and they did a bunch of shows and specials and
Speaker 3: this and that, and nobody mentioned one latinus.
Speaker 2: Nobody, And I mean truth be told the fever in.
Speaker 1: The Bronx because my ex husband managed UTFO and full
Speaker 1: for so I was always.
Speaker 2: Up in the fever.
Speaker 3: Sala. Yes.
Speaker 2: Now, yes, he was best friends with my ex husband.
Speaker 2: So come on, now, we got to give credit where
Speaker 2: credit is due.
Speaker 3: No, no, But the thing, the thing is that the
Speaker 3: thing is that in the documentary, right. So the first
Speaker 3: hip hop movie ever done was Wild Style. Right. They're
Speaker 3: doing the forty anniversary this week actually New York City,
Speaker 3: and they're aducting some of the guys into the Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame. Right, But the first rap group ever they had,
Speaker 3: they had uh what's his name? Uh? You know the
Speaker 3: Spanish guys that damn, I can't and forget it, but
Speaker 3: I'm a post. I posted it like three days ago. Okay,
Speaker 3: As the first is a rap scene, I send it
Speaker 3: to him. There's a rap scene, and as an African America,
Speaker 3: he starts the rapper. Then the second guy that raps
Speaker 3: is Charlie Chase, which he was the DJ of the
Speaker 3: Crush group of Go Crush, right, he was a DJ,
Speaker 3: but he's the second guy the raps. And then the
Speaker 3: third guy that raps is the rapper from the first
Speaker 3: group ever in hip hop evera like the fifth seed
Speaker 3: was Spanish. Was like just just in this battle scene
Speaker 3: two three first rappers, that rapper Spanish. Yeah, It's like
Speaker 3: how how how how were we not mention you know
Speaker 3: what I mean?
Speaker 1: I know I got here, Yep, Sugar Hill Gang. I
Speaker 1: got here, and that's what I said to run DMC.
Speaker 1: When I first landed here. My girlfriend was being managed
Speaker 1: by Russell Simmons and so I she was my roommate.
Speaker 1: I was at Green Street Studio, and I lived at
Speaker 1: the Feet, I lived at the garage, funhouse, rock scene,
Speaker 1: because these were all the places that UTFO performed. He
Speaker 1: also managed Lisa Lisa and called Jam. So I was,
Speaker 1: you know, around with them, and so to me when
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm coming from San Francisco, I don't
Speaker 1: know anything about Bronx, Brooklyn nothing, So I was always
Speaker 1: going straight to the Bronx. So I thought that that's
Speaker 1: where rap originated, it is. And then the other thing
Speaker 1: that was really huge here was breakdancing and graffiti. And
Speaker 1: the majority of guys that I saw were Latina.
Speaker 2: Yes, so they were.
Speaker 1: I don't understand like the influence because at one time,
Speaker 1: right before my daughter's dad passed, he was in talks
Speaker 1: with sal about doing the movie The Fever. Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: which you would have seen everybody come through there. Madonna
Speaker 1: was there one time. I was there and nobody knew her.
Speaker 1: She was just walking around with Dolly's on. That's what
Speaker 1: I said, with the lace and stuff and fluttering around.
Speaker 2: I'm like, who's this chick?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like I did, but Yulie,
Speaker 1: this is what I did. I was at the Roxy
Speaker 1: because she used to always flirt with my ex husband
Speaker 1: and Russell Simmons, right, and so one day I went
Speaker 1: up to her. I said, listen, chick, I don't know
Speaker 1: who you are, but I'm gonna need you to stay
Speaker 1: away from my man.
Speaker 2: This woman needs you to do Madonna whoever.
Speaker 1: Right then, when my husband, when we got divorced, he
Speaker 1: was like, I'm trying.
Speaker 2: To manage Donna. If it wasn't for you, I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I didn't know.
Speaker 1: It was a great when I tell you, it was
Speaker 1: a great time.
Speaker 2: And then you had like Jive was a Jive I'm
Speaker 2: not Jive one of the Yeah, maybe it was.
Speaker 1: It was one of the smaller record companies that was
Speaker 1: really giving out those deals to rappers at that time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because Russell was there with Jam, but there was an
Speaker 1: Anne Carly worked with Arnelle Records, Yep, Barry Okay, So
Speaker 1: it was very wise at Jive Records. They were handing
Speaker 1: out those deals at that time. And I just remember
Speaker 1: when Lisa hit that. You know, I was tapped in
Speaker 1: even more because what I didn't know was within the
Speaker 1: Latino community, there was Dominicans, there was Cubid like. I
Speaker 1: didn't know the specific groups. And then I learned that
Speaker 1: when I came here.
Speaker 2: Because one of.
Speaker 1: The things you said, I come from California, Mexicans is
Speaker 1: all that I grew up with. So I was saying
Speaker 1: to you, the thing that bothers me is the stereotypical
Speaker 1: images that Hollywood continues to perpetuate today because I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys knew listeners, but they want to
Speaker 1: do the Fidel Castro movie. Hollywood and they want to
Speaker 1: cast James Franco as Fidel Castro instead of John Legammos.
Speaker 2: Who would that would be his Oscar right there? M like,
Speaker 2: where is the.
Speaker 1: Logic in this type of casting with Hollywood?
Speaker 3: And I'm telling you that the logic is that when
Speaker 3: they do put the Latino in there, nobody goes to
Speaker 3: see it and the numbers don't make sense. That's the problem.
Speaker 3: That's why I say everybody can complain. Like I told,
Speaker 3: I told people on my side, if you're into the
Speaker 3: Transformer chain, go check it out because the leader is Latino.
Speaker 3: You know, Anthony Rainmolds is the star Transformers. So if
Speaker 3: you know, if you want to make a change, you
Speaker 3: want to make a difference, go check out the Transformers
Speaker 3: this weekend, because like I said, if the numbers coming high,
Speaker 3: they would be like, oh shit, maybe we should do
Speaker 3: this last thing. But if the numbers coming low, they're
Speaker 3: gonna be like you.
Speaker 2: See, you see technically sorry.
Speaker 3: It's okay, but it'd be like you see, that's that's
Speaker 3: why we don't do it, you know. But But like
Speaker 3: I said, just to just to wrap up on the
Speaker 3: on the documentary we did, the whole purpose of that
Speaker 3: was to start a conversation that you know, we were here,
Speaker 3: we were always here. We grew up in there. We
Speaker 3: came like in the in the nineteen nineteen ninety, nineteen twenties,
Speaker 3: that's when like the Puerto Ricans started coming to the
Speaker 3: United States and stuff, you know, way before hip hop started.
Speaker 3: So yeah, lived in the neighborhoods. We went to the scene.
Speaker 3: We were there, we were at the park. And then
Speaker 3: what happened was graffiti started first because people were writing
Speaker 3: on the walls to like, you know, just make a
Speaker 3: statement like you know, right leave or I was here
Speaker 3: or you know, I'm important, that makes sense. Then the
Speaker 3: DJ started second, where they started like taking loops I
Speaker 3: mean like yeah, like samples and scratching them. And then
Speaker 3: the breakdancers started happening, and then the DJs were like yes, yes, y'a,
Speaker 3: you don't staff throw your hands in the air like
Speaker 3: you just don't care. And then and then people were
Speaker 3: like and then started throwing stuff on that, and then
Speaker 3: raps started happening. So hip hop is is has those
Speaker 3: four pillars of breakdancing, graffiti, uh mcen, and DJ and
Speaker 3: but Msteen was the last one to flourish, you know,
Speaker 3: and I guess the most importance. But that's what this
Speaker 3: documentary was, just to show that, but also show how
Speaker 3: we were there, We were there, were still there and
Speaker 3: now you know we we're the highest thing in music
Speaker 3: right now. You know, you knows get the most views,
Speaker 3: and music now is based on views you got. You know,
Speaker 3: if you look at the top ten most watched videos
Speaker 3: and YouTube history, nine or Latino or eight or Latino,
Speaker 3: So you know, I mean billions of views. And I'm
Speaker 3: blessed to say, you know, I've directed or my brothers
Speaker 3: directed half of them, you know, so so you know,
Speaker 3: But like I said, look, the bottom line is, we
Speaker 3: have to support one another. That's why you called me. Uh,
Speaker 3: Tracy called me. She never calls me, so you call
Speaker 3: me is for a good reason. She said, hey, are
Speaker 3: you available tomorrow too? I mean at twelve, I was
Speaker 3: like done, that's it. I don't know what I was
Speaker 3: coming from.
Speaker 2: We also have other plans for you too in season three.
Speaker 2: Well we're not.
Speaker 1: I can't talk to you officially about it until we're
Speaker 1: supposed to know. They told us ten days on Friday,
Speaker 1: we'll get the official word. So I think we're at
Speaker 1: day seven now. But once we get the official word.
Speaker 1: I have plans because what you don't know is that
Speaker 1: when that article first came out about Fidel Castro, I
Speaker 1: sent it to Crackle and said, this is why inside
Speaker 1: the Black Box is here. It's a platform to bring
Speaker 1: awareness to these things because we need to focus on
Speaker 1: solutions because we you know the problem.
Speaker 2: What are the solutions to this?
Speaker 1: Because that's what I want to So once we get
Speaker 1: that official word, you'll get another call from me then
Speaker 1: And now I'm thinking, Ulie, we have to do something
Speaker 1: like I'm thinking maybe you and I partner up and
Speaker 1: maybe do.
Speaker 2: A workshop or something like.
Speaker 1: I feel like within both communities there needs to be
Speaker 1: more support.
Speaker 2: There needs to be the self love.
Speaker 1: It starts with self love, because if you love yourself,
Speaker 1: it's a natural extension to help other people. And so
Speaker 1: this whole competitive jealousy thing, there's enough out there for
Speaker 1: all of us. We're in streaming world right now. You
Speaker 1: can make a film on your phone, so there's no
Speaker 1: more excuses. It really is about us coming together as communities,
Speaker 1: and you know, culturally, I mean, because what this world
Speaker 1: is going to look different in ten years. I keep
Speaker 1: telling my granddaughter who's ten Hunger Games and I keep
Speaker 1: telling Radiance and Miles hunger games, like, so we're going
Speaker 1: to have to learn how to help each other and
Speaker 1: work together.
Speaker 2: Otherwise I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We've got three minutes and I want to give them
Speaker 1: all to you. Whatever you want to give to the
Speaker 1: act in terms of tips, what they need to do,
Speaker 1: here's your platform, just real quick.
Speaker 3: The problem is, like you said, we have to support
Speaker 3: one of the John Levuzamo was the first Latino ever
Speaker 3: to go against Hollywood and say I have a problem
Speaker 3: with this shit, Like how how do we finally have
Speaker 3: an amazing leading role opportunity for Latino male and you
Speaker 3: don't give it to us? You know, how can we
Speaker 3: get oscars? How can we make We can't sell Latin
Speaker 3: stories because we don't have a face to put in
Speaker 3: the poster, you know, And now there's an opportunity for
Speaker 3: a face for a poster, you give it to the
Speaker 3: white guy. Like come on, guys, and you know who
Speaker 3: supported him?
Speaker 2: Who?
Speaker 3: Nobody?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 3: One latino now, one Latino? Now, one latino said Hey,
Speaker 3: I got you John. This is some bs you know.
Speaker 3: You know why because all the Latinos that are famous
Speaker 3: enough they got the they're the number fifth person on
Speaker 3: the TV show, you know, the sixth character on that
Speaker 3: movie living a great life. They don't want to damage that,
Speaker 3: don't want They finally got in thirty years later. Finally,
Speaker 3: you know, and then I got to Rock the boat.
Speaker 3: And nine out of ten Latina women in Hollywood are
Speaker 3: married to a a Caucasian menal you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 3: so they're not at the Latin party. They're not they're
Speaker 3: not after the Latin uh protests. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: They're not there. So it's like, you know, so that's
Speaker 3: the problem. No one's no one could take a chance
Speaker 3: to say, hey, what's up Hollywood? Because they got their spot,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. That's why they ain't. No
Speaker 3: Latin Lives Matter protests, you know.
Speaker 1: Listen, well you know they finally stimulate something. But we
Speaker 1: we need you to talk about this because it doesn't
Speaker 1: like I just how you know, we're America is a
Speaker 1: pulpourri of cultures. How do you just focus on one
Speaker 1: culture and just exclude other cultures or give them brand?
Speaker 2: Break comes here and there?
Speaker 1: Like what's going to happen, which I feel is that
Speaker 1: culturally we're going to start empowering ourselves. At least we
Speaker 1: should start empowering ourselves, like you know, blessed we have
Speaker 1: a Tyler Perry or a Shanda Rhymes or Ava, you know,
Speaker 1: but we need to start empowering ourselves in our communities
Speaker 1: and not feeling like lack or I'm missing out. That's
Speaker 1: not you know, you help someone in that it's going
Speaker 1: to tenfold with everything else, and you can't have the fear.
Speaker 2: People said, are you afraid to do the show? No,
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid to do the show because this is
Speaker 2: the truth. This is what's really going on and people
Speaker 2: need to know that.
Speaker 1: So prayerfully you and I will be a part of
Speaker 1: continue to be a part of the change.
Speaker 2: But I'm going to brainstorm and put some energy out there.
Speaker 2: We got to do something.
Speaker 1: We got to do something together, like in addition to
Speaker 1: what other other plans I have for you. So we're
Speaker 1: not at the end of the show, you guys. We're
Speaker 1: just at the end of the interview, and we're going
Speaker 1: to invite Elsa and our actors, our two actors to
Speaker 1: come on and ask your question.
Speaker 2: Our three actors.
Speaker 1: Well, we have Rain is gonna be a part of
Speaker 1: class and session. So Elsa, do you have.
Speaker 2: The actors you can introduce?
Speaker 4: Yes, today, I think you can come on Kim and.
Speaker 2: Hey, you guys say your name for Ulie. He is
Speaker 2: a casting director.
Speaker 4: First question will be from Epic Virus.
Speaker 5: Hi am epic. First question, Well, first, what's one I
Speaker 5: know that you guys delved into the black thereof of
Speaker 5: the Latin roles and whatnot. What's one role that you've
Speaker 5: seen just tastefully done that you say you're proud of.
Speaker 5: Because I am a Latino woman, I'm African American and Latina,
Speaker 5: so it's important that the conversation.
Speaker 2: You guys were having really important. But has there been
Speaker 2: a role where you're like, not, that's the way to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 5: But when you think of it, it's portrayed eloquently, tastefully
Speaker 5: when it comes to the heritage of Latin America, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. That's a good question, Like, I
Speaker 5: know we made zero in on the negative and what
Speaker 5: we may lack, But what is one where you're like,
Speaker 5: you know what, this was done? Well though, we can
Speaker 5: keep up this caliber.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of. I mean, I'm a big
Speaker 3: fan of John and I'm just.
Speaker 2: Sure me too.
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to think of all the films I
Speaker 3: watched to see which one was my favorite is.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I will have to say this, Really
Speaker 1: he did a film on HBO with Rayleiota, Got Rest
Speaker 1: his Soul, where he was investigating an arsenist, and it
Speaker 1: turned out that Rayleiota was the arsonist and that was
Speaker 1: his boss. It was a real trilogy twist, and that
Speaker 1: was some really great work of John really great, you know,
Speaker 1: going head to head with Rayleota. I thought that was
Speaker 1: some great work. But Wow, for us to even be
Speaker 1: thinking like this is yeah, because.
Speaker 3: There is no I mean, like I said, anything that
Speaker 3: comes to mind for me is like all Latin Latin film.
Speaker 3: Like I saw this movie called Rudy and Cursey, which
Speaker 3: you know, I was on a road trip in Miami
Speaker 3: and a road trip in Mexico and my brother and
Speaker 3: we stopped in ten different cities and every theater was
Speaker 3: sold out for the day. And it's like, that's what
Speaker 3: I understood why Hollywood wants Mexican actors, because you have
Speaker 3: the theaters in Mexico, so if it does well there,
Speaker 3: you get all your money back there. So we couldn't
Speaker 3: see it anywhere, and then finally our last stop was
Speaker 3: Cabo and Gobo's More where all the tourists come. So
Speaker 3: so we saw it there. It wasn't sold out there,
Speaker 3: but we saw it there. It was two of you know,
Speaker 3: Mexico's greatest actors of all time, and they were going
Speaker 3: neck connect with each other, and it was just it
Speaker 3: was just brilliant. It was just brilliant. These actors like
Speaker 3: like Diego Diego Luna and Guillello.
Speaker 2: From Scandal.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I guess I don't watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah he was. He was one of the least I.
Speaker 3: Don't watch TV stuff, but but yeah, so but but
Speaker 3: so that that went definitely, you know, it made me
Speaker 3: understand why it was sold out in every city, and
Speaker 3: it was just like, you know, it was just great acting.
Speaker 3: You know, just create act Those those guys are like
Speaker 3: they're different, you know, they're different, you know, because I
Speaker 3: think the problem now with a lot of Latinos I
Speaker 3: see is that they don't want to go after they
Speaker 3: want the residuals that actors get. Like like like like say,
Speaker 3: I started teaching and I started doing seminars and talking
Speaker 3: to the kids because I feel like when when when
Speaker 3: hip hop took off. You know, I was one of
Speaker 3: the top casting directors in the music video space. So
Speaker 3: they did a thing called Access Granted on BT and
Speaker 3: MTV Nigga Video, and I was on that thing almost
Speaker 3: almost every week because they used to do everybody's videos,
Speaker 3: so I was on there almost every week, so you
Speaker 3: would see me there where like the biggest stars in
Speaker 3: the world. And I feel like kids were like, I
Speaker 3: want to do casting, I want to direct, because they
Speaker 3: wanted to be on Access Granted with the celebrities and
Speaker 3: the hot models, but they didn't really want to direct.
Speaker 3: They didn't really want to do Cassie, they didn't really
Speaker 3: want to be an actor. They just wanted what they saw.
Speaker 3: And that's why my Instagram you never see unless I repost,
Speaker 3: which is out of respect and love. I don't put
Speaker 3: nothing up showing the glamor of this lifestyle because I
Speaker 3: don't want to continue to, you know, mis mislead people
Speaker 3: to what this is because it's seven days a week.
Speaker 3: Twenty four was a day you don't have no friends.
Speaker 3: You're home alone most of the time, like it's a
Speaker 3: lonely place. You know, your friends think you're crazy. You know,
Speaker 3: it's like you know, it's just it's now what people
Speaker 3: think it is. Now. Once a month, i might get
Speaker 3: invited to the Oscars and I'm chilling with superstars and
Speaker 3: it looks like I'm living the glamorous life. But for
Speaker 3: the next thirty days, I'm here. I'm here all the time.
Speaker 3: This is where I'm at most of the time in
Speaker 3: my life. But yeah, like I said, that's a problem.
Speaker 3: Like say me trying to think of a role of
Speaker 3: a long person. I was thinking in English and I
Speaker 3: couldn't figure it out because I mean, how many how
Speaker 3: many starring rolls are there? Not many? Or it was
Speaker 3: so long ago I don't remember, you know. But Spanish,
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you a couple in Spanish, because that's
Speaker 3: what they give us. They give us Spanish speaking budgets,
Speaker 3: budgets for Spanish speaking material, because there's numbers on the
Speaker 3: board of successful Spanish movies, but there's numbers on the
Speaker 3: board for English movies with Spanish people in it. You know,
Speaker 3: Like I said, right now, we just sold the Fat
Speaker 3: Joe series. You know, we sold that was going to
Speaker 3: change the game. But the network we sold it to,
Speaker 3: which is a big network, I'm not sure if they
Speaker 3: publicly folded yet or not. You guys have that same network,
Speaker 3: but they folded, but it's under the bigger umbrella. So
Speaker 3: now we're in limbo waiting to see, you know, do
Speaker 3: they put it on the other channels they have or
Speaker 3: do they give it back? But everybody wants to show,
Speaker 3: but it's not out yet. We haven't started yet. But
Speaker 3: it's going to change the game. The first time. You're
Speaker 3: going to see a bunch of Latinos that look like us,
Speaker 3: that speak like us, no accents, maybe New York accent,
Speaker 3: with a big studio, big budget behind, and a big
Speaker 3: you know ken you Baris, you know, Kenya Baris is
Speaker 3: like the god you know, he's like godfathers. He's the
Speaker 3: leader of this whole thing. So it's like he got
Speaker 3: he just dropped to two hits the what is it?
Speaker 3: The you people?
Speaker 2: Was it? Yeah, he's yeah, he has two out. I
Speaker 2: don't know if the other show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, white and then white Man can't Jump. But I'm
Speaker 3: just saying he's like, you know, he's the he's hitting
Speaker 3: home runs right now, and he's the one that that
Speaker 3: picked this project up and sold it and made it happen.
Speaker 3: So so so this potentially could change the game. And
Speaker 3: then Joe has the marketing love from everybody, so the
Speaker 3: minute of this drops every celebrity of repost and this
Speaker 3: and that, so people to watch. Is a great story.
Speaker 3: And then now for the first time ever, there will
Speaker 3: be something on the board like wait a minute, this
Speaker 3: project with latinos got numbers. Yeah, to try another one,
Speaker 3: but right now we don't have that. There's no show
Speaker 3: with Spanish people that speak English that grew up in
Speaker 3: America on TV that's a hit. None.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to Teddy your question and we could
Speaker 1: just edit it just a little. We have to jump
Speaker 1: into class and session. So what's your question?
Speaker 3: How are you doing your listen?
Speaker 6: My question is with the writer's strike that's at now,
Speaker 6: what advice would you give to not only just actors,
Speaker 6: but people who are looking.
Speaker 2: To become producers and scripts.
Speaker 6: Advisor anything else as far as actors just getting into
Speaker 6: the industry with the writer strike going on, it will
Speaker 6: be your plan of attackle of your vision on how
Speaker 6: to navigate with that happening now.
Speaker 3: I mean me personally. We just shot a movie that
Speaker 3: we just wrapped last week, so we took advantage of
Speaker 3: that and we got Tier one crew to work for
Speaker 3: after rate because they weren't working. So we took advantage
Speaker 3: of that, and we're actually getting ready to shoot something
Speaker 3: in a couple of weeks because of it. So we're
Speaker 3: taking advantage of it. It's like, you know, well, Marlon
Speaker 3: Wayne's told me many years ago, He's like, you know, uh,
Speaker 3: you just got to do it yourself. If you're waiting
Speaker 3: for them, it's never gonna come, especially you who looks
Speaker 3: like you're on TV. Nobody. So who's in the cast
Speaker 3: you nobody? So you got to do it yourself. So
Speaker 3: you know, efor strike or like who cares? You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Are you depending on them? You know,
Speaker 3: take advantage of That's why acting class is so dope
Speaker 3: because you meet other peers, other people. One guy's a writer,
Speaker 3: one guys a director. Guys you put the piece. Like
Speaker 3: all my students, they're all shooting shit now you know,
Speaker 3: every single one of them they connected. This was a writer,
Speaker 3: was a director. Shout out to Derek, you know, he's
Speaker 3: a director. One of my classes. They're putting stuff together.
Speaker 3: It's like you got to take matters into your own hands.
Speaker 3: You can't wait for anybody if you're waiting for somebody
Speaker 3: like people that tell me, you know, they hate me
Speaker 3: because I ruined their acting career because I never hired them.
Speaker 3: I'm like me, how about the other two nine hundred
Speaker 3: ninety nine casting directors, Like won't you blame them but
Speaker 3: to me for you know, like you can't wait for nobody,
Speaker 3: got it? You gotta And then now, like Tracy said earlier,
Speaker 3: you can shoot something with your phone. It's like it's
Speaker 3: like there's no excuses more for us. Back in our day,
Speaker 3: you got to buy the film rolls of film, you
Speaker 3: have to get the cameras. Impossible, You need at fifteen
Speaker 3: thousand dollars to do a five minute idea. Now you
Speaker 3: can do for zero dollars and zero cents. So that's
Speaker 3: why I'm so hardcore. Tracy's like I'm always speak to
Speaker 3: truth or so or core whatever because like there's no
Speaker 3: excuses in me. No, you know what I'm saying, There's
Speaker 3: no excuses. Get up off your butts and let's go.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: That's it. So thank you you guys, Thank you Elsa.
Speaker 1: If we could just switch gears and go into class
Speaker 1: in session, we are going to go right in a
Speaker 1: class in session where Elsa's going to bring.
Speaker 2: Our actors back up.
Speaker 1: We have one actress that is joining us and and
Speaker 1: so else. If you could do the introduction to the scene,
Speaker 1: and let's jump in the class and session for you, and.
Speaker 2: Then to do the intro to class and session and
Speaker 2: then I'll pull.
Speaker 1: Okay, what is go into I'm just I'll say, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm Andy kin edited. So we're just gonna go right
Speaker 1: into class and session right now.
Speaker 2: I was just going to use that as the intro.
Speaker 4: Okay, So today on class in session we have miss
Speaker 4: Epic Vargas and mister Sidius Kane and we will have
Speaker 4: a narration by Reina.
Speaker 2: Sedania like how Raina says it.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're gonna take our cameras on on our
Speaker 1: We're gonna put on mute and you guys on action.
Speaker 2: We can begin the same Raina that's on you. Oh
Speaker 2: I didn't hear it. I didn't hear I'm at you, Okay.
Speaker 7: In Syria, Grandla's country Club evening, the ballroom is vibrant
Speaker 7: with purple neon strobe lights shining and beaming off the
Speaker 7: huge glass chandelier over the dance floor, which is packed.
Speaker 7: Everyone is turned up it's that kind of wedding, jagged edged,
Speaker 7: let's get married just dropped. Mary heads over to the
Speaker 7: dance floor to join the party when Hr and Ben
Speaker 7: lock eyes again.
Speaker 6: Excuse me, I had to come over and say something.
Speaker 5: Hi and Ben, I know where you are, sleeve. Congratulations,
Speaker 5: this is beautiful.
Speaker 3: You're beautiful.
Speaker 7: Mary's taking a back surprise. She also realizes they're still
Speaker 7: holding hands since they greeted hello. She quickly drops her hand.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Who are you here with.
Speaker 2: Angie?
Speaker 5: I'm Angie's sister, so I'm her date tonight, the neighbor.
Speaker 2: That'll be the one. Exactly.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 7: The attention is in their locked eyes towards each other
Speaker 7: is undeniable. Mary notices his wife looking for him as
Speaker 7: the song is appropriate.
Speaker 5: I'm actually gonna go get a drink. Yeah, I think
Speaker 5: your wife is looking for you.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, wait look look look, excuse me, wait, excuse me.
Speaker 3: Look.
Speaker 6: I know this is this is very inappropriate, but in
Speaker 6: all honesty, I've been locked on you since I saw
Speaker 6: you in the church.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 3: I just really wanted to know and I need to
Speaker 3: know that I see you again.
Speaker 7: Ironically, Mary feels it as wrong as it is. She
Speaker 7: hesitates what.
Speaker 6: Me too.
Speaker 7: Mary notices that his wife has found him and it's
Speaker 7: on her way over.
Speaker 2: She snaps out of it.
Speaker 5: Congratulations again, yeah, Mary smiles and heads off.
Speaker 7: He watches until he's interrupted by his new wife.
Speaker 2: From behind.
Speaker 7: She hugs on him as the DJ gets on the mic.
Speaker 7: Can we get a bend? And his beautiful wife Shauna
Speaker 7: to the dance door.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 1: See see thank you? All right, Okay, it's on you, Yulie.
Speaker 1: Whatever you want to throw at them, you can.
Speaker 3: Ah, I'm gonna say sorry first before I speak. You know,
Speaker 3: sometimes my my direction might feel hardcore, so so don't
Speaker 3: don't take hard feelings. So what I say, So number
Speaker 3: one is what's the girl's name that's reading rain Raina?
Speaker 3: So number one like, I don't know why you're reading,
Speaker 3: you know, but if you're reading because you want to
Speaker 3: be a reader, or you want to be considered to
Speaker 3: be an actor, or because you're part of the team
Speaker 3: or something, you know, like this is how it started.
Speaker 3: You were like this, yeah, and then you were just like, oh,
Speaker 3: I gotta go. I even hear I gotta go now.
Speaker 3: So let me just naurish. So it already put me
Speaker 3: like that that that interrupted my energy now. So now,
Speaker 3: so now the actors are in trouble now because I
Speaker 3: was already like I didn't I didn't come into this
Speaker 3: with good energy because you were just like you don't
Speaker 3: want to be here.
Speaker 2: You were just like to be Oh that's okay. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying like, that's how it felt like. You
Speaker 3: got punished. You got punished. And Tracy said, come read
Speaker 3: like damn it, and he was just like, so, I'm
Speaker 3: just saying, so if you're an actor, right, if you're
Speaker 3: an actors, people that read for me, they're actors, so
Speaker 3: they read, they could be in my eye lines, so
Speaker 3: the producers can see them, so they can have some
Speaker 3: kind of energy so we can consider them for other
Speaker 3: roles or whatever. But your energy, you know, wasn't good.
Speaker 3: It is what I'm saying. So if you're if the
Speaker 3: camera sees everything, right, so this is everything, so you
Speaker 3: should always be here, like I can't wait, I can't
Speaker 3: wait till you know, like I can, so.
Speaker 2: Can actual questions. So as a narrator, I can be.
Speaker 7: Just as projective as the actors that are acting for
Speaker 7: their roles.
Speaker 3: Of course, yeah, of course, right right? Why right? Why
Speaker 3: do it then? Okay, Like, nobody's a reader. All my
Speaker 3: readers are actors, you know what I'm saying. And they
Speaker 3: try to they try to overkill it, like and then
Speaker 3: they come into the house it startled, you know, and
Speaker 3: they try to make it entertaining. So we could like you.
Speaker 3: We could like you and be like are you an actor?
Speaker 3: You know what? She can't be good for the Vanessa role,
Speaker 3: Like that's why you read to be in the room
Speaker 3: with us, to be hanging out with us, to start
Speaker 3: to get the relationship is everything, you know. So once
Speaker 3: you in the building, in the building with with Tracy
Speaker 3: Moore is like, wow, that's big. Now you're in the
Speaker 3: building with me, so it's like you should be like
Speaker 3: ready to have both of us fall in love with you,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And this part head, this
Speaker 3: thing right here was like okay, and then she spoke
Speaker 3: actually you were like huh.
Speaker 7: So I was telling I didn't you know, I didn't you.
Speaker 2: I didn't your action market.
Speaker 3: I don't even you to explain. I'm just telling you
Speaker 3: how it felt to me, how it felt to me.
Speaker 3: So the point of that is like, once you're here,
Speaker 3: it's action. Yeah, right now, this is called with the studio.
Speaker 3: The director of narrators is big, and we always have
Speaker 3: to show up looking great once you're on the camera.
Speaker 3: You know, all the time you've been a little figs.
Speaker 3: This is it. I can't wait. Okay, sure, let's go right.
Speaker 1: Okay, And I just want to say this the most
Speaker 1: important thing for a reader. I have stressed this, Yuli
Speaker 1: since Urban World. You have to you you set the
Speaker 1: tone for the scene. You set the tone. And I've
Speaker 1: set this a thousand times a narrator. That's why you know,
Speaker 1: we have to find narrators, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because not everybody can be And this is a good
Speaker 1: teachable moment for you, Raina, because it is about energy
Speaker 1: and a narrator, like Julie said, a narrator is just
Speaker 1: down a narrator.
Speaker 2: We're looking at you as an actor.
Speaker 1: So it's the energy that you present yourself with is
Speaker 1: going to set the tone for the actors.
Speaker 2: That's all I had to say.
Speaker 3: And like I said, you know, and sometimes for me
Speaker 3: to express myself, it might come out hard, short, it
Speaker 3: might see me. Yeah, it's just for you to never
Speaker 3: do that ever again.
Speaker 2: So next day. No, that's what I'm here for.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, okay, now you two up there right. I
Speaker 3: think you guys were equally the same as far as
Speaker 3: your performance. You guys both seemed like trained actors, like
Speaker 3: you've studied for a long time, and you guys are
Speaker 3: You guys are actors. That's what That's what I got
Speaker 3: out of it. But I felt like you guys followed
Speaker 3: every lesson taught to you guys. You know, I felt
Speaker 3: like there was a lot of thinking in the head,
Speaker 3: like let me pause here, let me do this expression,
Speaker 3: like it was overthought. Like I don't think you guys
Speaker 3: were there at all. I think you guys were overthinking,
Speaker 3: you know. I feel like every expression, everything you did,
Speaker 3: you guys thought about it, Like when she says that
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this, and when he says that I'm gonna,
Speaker 3: you know, be confused like this, and and and That's
Speaker 3: how I felt with the performance. But I felt you
Speaker 3: guys are good actors, so I would give you directions. Okay, guys,
Speaker 3: let's stop the bullshit. Let's do it again. Smack him
Speaker 3: in the face like like kiss him, like whatever the
Speaker 3: energy was, I'm like, let's let's do that. Like, let's
Speaker 3: let's do it again. And I would like to do
Speaker 3: it again if we have time. I don't we have
Speaker 3: time to do it again? Do it?
Speaker 2: We don't? They get one time to make a first impression.
Speaker 3: Okay, so but I'm saying, but you guys came off
Speaker 3: like strong actors to me, for sure, right, but I
Speaker 3: felt like every night, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3: What was your name? Uh?
Speaker 2: Epic?
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this epic question to you?
Speaker 3: Were you there one thousand percent? Were you in the
Speaker 3: or were you thinking? Let's be honest, I was there.
Speaker 5: I feel like, what made me what kind of doo
Speaker 5: me off?
Speaker 2: Was?
Speaker 5: I forgot to call my window and I started to
Speaker 5: hear noise outside and I kept wanting to close the window.
Speaker 3: So I was, yes, you were doing it, was closing
Speaker 3: windows and the people outside. Okay, how about you? What
Speaker 3: were you thinking?
Speaker 6: I was, like you said, you know, honestly, I was
Speaker 6: really trying to grab the moments, and I was more
Speaker 6: focused in the moments because the words, Yeah, no, I
Speaker 6: was really trying to because this is not what I'm
Speaker 6: used to, so like me getting used to this.
Speaker 3: And yeah, that's exactly one hundred percent. So thank you
Speaker 3: guys for being honest. But like I said, I saw
Speaker 3: the skills, I saw the you know, you guys are
Speaker 3: trained actors, correct, yes, sir, yeah, I saw that a
Speaker 3: mile away. But I just saw the overthinking that that
Speaker 3: interfered with with the real energy and the real expressions
Speaker 3: and the real movements. All that was like I felt
Speaker 3: with thought, you know. So so that was so that
Speaker 3: that's my that's my critique.
Speaker 2: But that's just why I love him, Ladys and gentlemen
Speaker 2: all day.
Speaker 3: But that performance works for TV all day, like you know,
Speaker 3: because I think half the shows on TV is that
Speaker 3: you know, hey, I'm finding you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't watch you see you later bye,
Speaker 2: because that's network. That's the fular network. You know so.
Speaker 1: Well, Ladies and gentlemen, I want you guys to stand
Speaker 1: up for real. I want you to put your hands
Speaker 1: together for real, for the amazing, phenomenal dynamic. Mister you
Speaker 1: listen Terrero casting directors, there, director, producer story and I'll share.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you I'm so so happy and so
Speaker 1: grateful you came on because I just need people to
Speaker 1: hear and I need actors to hear what you have
Speaker 1: to say. And I'm so glad that this is going
Speaker 1: to come on next Tuesday and everybody is going and
Speaker 1: the drop with to be playing at just twenty four
Speaker 1: hour rotation so that people can come on the show
Speaker 1: next Tuesday and see you. But I just want to
Speaker 1: thank you again for being there and taking my call.
Speaker 3: No, you're crazy. Thanks, So I'm honored to be here.
Speaker 3: So thank you for letting me your space and your
Speaker 3: and your Spirited Actors world and appreciate you.
Speaker 2: You're always in my world.
Speaker 3: Yulie.
Speaker 1: I talk about you so much it should be burdened.
Speaker 1: I was talking about you the other day to Ian Gelfan.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, yeah, because he directed fifty show on BT
Speaker 1: and we were talking. I was like, he comes to
Speaker 1: his class like you know, like Julie, Julie OUI is
Speaker 1: the man. So but I just again, you guys have
Speaker 1: been very, very blessed. I pray that you took all
Speaker 1: this information in and that you listen to his last comment.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so be great and be humble. That's my advice.
Speaker 3: Be great and you humble. Now you can't lose, absolutely can.
Speaker 1: Those are great words you guys to meditate and to embrace.
Speaker 2: When we come.
Speaker 1: Back to the Spirit Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore,
Speaker 1: I am going to be giving you love.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna give you some love,
Speaker 2: and now it's time to give love.
Speaker 1: It takes discipline to live your life. And I'm talking
Speaker 1: about you. I'm not talking about everybody else. I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about your job. I'm not talking about your children.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about you. It takes discipline to eat right
Speaker 1: and to eat healthy. It takes discipline to work out
Speaker 1: and move your body. It takes discipline to have these
Speaker 1: evening routines of the you know, washing your face and
Speaker 1: putting sarah Va on and toner and all of that.
Speaker 1: It takes discipline to live your life every day, make
Speaker 1: an effort to be disciplined, to practice something every single
Speaker 1: day and be consistent with it.
Speaker 2: If I thought that inside the Black Box.
Speaker 1: Was not going to happen, I would have stopped believing
Speaker 1: eighteen years ago. But I had the discipline and the
Speaker 1: focus and the passion and the commitment to see it through. Practice, practice,
Speaker 1: every single day, disciplining yourself. Maybe cutting out instead of
Speaker 1: having three cups of Starbucks, maybe you have one. Instead
Speaker 1: of going to bed at twelve, Maybe you try going
Speaker 1: to bed at nine every single day.
Speaker 2: Make an effort to practice discipline.
Speaker 1: Don't forget to look out for us on our new show,
Speaker 1: Inside the black Box. My co host will be Joe
Speaker 1: the Legend Morton. It's going to be this Spirited Actor
Speaker 1: Podcast on steroids.
Speaker 2: We'll be streaming on the Crackle network. I'll keep you posted.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on the Spirited Actor Podcast
Speaker 1: with me Tracy Moore. I look forward to our next
Speaker 1: Spirited podcast.
Speaker 2: Thank you.