WEBVTT - Convos About Selective Politics 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.400 Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.480 Sealers Podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:16.479 loaw glasses Malone. Sometimes I wish my mom was alive 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:19.079 right now so I could apologize to it because a 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:22.520 lot of the shit that I felt like I made 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:26.079 her go through to get some shit that I really 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:27.600 didn't give a fuck about. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:29.800 I genuinely think, like. 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.519 I think men learn love because they love their moms, 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:38.000 you know, pretty much that's the standard, right. 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:42.199 I don't think women learn love and tell true love 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:43.000 till they have a kid. 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:46.560 Yeah. 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.839 Now, I do think some women love their dad, but 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:55.040 then again, most women, the way they love men is 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:56.440 all contingency based. 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:00.480 Yes, I mean, to love is to give, no, not 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:01.880 to receive, you know what I mean. 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.800 I know that's about that, right, because you got a kid, 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:06.319 you got a daughter right now, I've been doing this 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:07.080 little girl since. 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:07.720 She was a little kid. 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:10.640 But you you, and I don't want you to talk 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:12.840 about Jazz, you know what I mean. That ain't the 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.080 point of the pot. But what I do want to 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:18.520 say is I would imagine you could relate to how 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:25.120 much Maria and Jazz are alike short. 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:27.640 Man, they you know, and again. And I love all 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:32.080 my children, you know, all of them. I love them all, 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:40.399 but especially with my daughter. And my daughter there's a 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:44.959 tremendous sense of entitlement. Like me and her, I told 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.400 you about to look tiff that we had yesterday. 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:49.880 Sure, sure, but and she straight up. 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:52.400 Told me at the conclusion of that that, well, you're 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.240 my dad. You were supposed to But. 0:01:55.280 --> 0:02:00.000 I noticed that's not just her, that's a gen z. 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.960 Like I've listened to shout out to my young hommie Jason. 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:08.000 Jason grew up out the Nigga, says, got his life together. 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:15.560 Great things happening. Different kids, man, and they really feel 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:19.080 like their parents are supposed to take care of them, 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.600 like they're entitled to it. Like I've heard so many 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:28.600 different children tell me that, like, oh, you're doing what 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:32.040 you're supposed to do. And I remember telling Jason and 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:37.000 Airy and Jade and all these kids. I was like, 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.560 you know, they're not kids, they're you know, twenty two 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:43.560 to twenty four. And I'm telling them, like, you know, 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:45.480 they could just drop you off at a fire station. 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:50.640 You know, they could just drop you off at a 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:51.200 fire station. 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:56.919 Pretty much up until your responsibility to the letter of 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:01.520 the law ends when a child turns eighteen, eighteen years 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:05.680 of age, they're on their own now, it extends past 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.440 a little bit of that. That's why I don't like 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:11.200 this whole law about someone being Oh you're eighteen, now 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:14.000 you're independent. You don't have to do anything nobody tell 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:18.440 you to do. No more. Right, But they still get 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.880 the benefits of being a child. But yet go talk 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:25.280 to you crazy. That's the first thing they go through 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.359 up in your face is I'm grown now, I'm an adult. 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:32.000 So that's what I'm saying, Like for parents in today's time, 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:40.200 because they're raised with these like I remember. So I 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:44.200 heard multiple stories that from Brandy, from different people. 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:45.880 I heard multiple stories. 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:48.720 Bro that, like a fourteen year old girl when she 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.720 goes to see a doctor, it's her choice to have 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:53.160 her parent in the room. 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:57.640 Oh yeah, we had a big issue with that because Maria, 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.840 of course close to doctor Weig Jasmin. So your daughter 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.360 could be in there because one thing about it is 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.600 She'm gonna say something, and a lot of dads this 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:10.400 is a hard peal of swallow. Your daughter is going 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:14.080 to have sex with someone one day, So if you're 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:17.160 not giving her that same conversation that you give your sons, 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.760 you're doing your daughter a disservice because you're not being realistic. Now, 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:24.400 I do think that that's probably a more comfortable conversation 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.599 I had with a mother and daughter. But they should 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.200 be having those conversations. If they're not, something's wrong, right, 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.960 So naturally, I would imagine that a mother should be 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:35.760 in there with her fourteen year old daughter if she's 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:39.640 in the going to see on a doctor visit, because 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:44.560 what if the girl has a brenario disease or something 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:46.599 and the parents don't know about it. I think that's 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.600 something that the parents should know about it so they 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:52.760 can help educate their daughter on how to properly protect herself. 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:54.680 And I know they say a doctor can do that, 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.080 but no, it's a different conversation coming from your mama, 0:04:58.120 --> 0:04:59.680 because that's a life of death conversation. 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:05.040 Now days, do you think that state is getting to 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:10.400 involved in children and parents raising their children and that 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:14.560 creates well, no, it got to be the parents of 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:15.159 some degree. 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:20.600 But the state dictates a lot of stuff. The government 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:21.720 dictates a lot of stuff. 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.320 I think so, but I don't think think about this. 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.680 G Not to cut you off, bro, but I want 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:30.320 to take you back. I graduated high school in nineteen 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:35.560 eighty eight. Right, the things that happened to me and 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.760 junior high would be considered atrocities today. I got paddles. 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:42.520 You know, a paddle was a thing where the teachers 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.560 had this you know, flat stick, and I got the 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.719 line you wanted office got swatted. Your teacher could swatch you. 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:50.960 You pretty much got an ass whopoping in school right, 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.920 and would get one if they went out the way 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.280 and decided to call your parents. You was gonna get 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.279 another one for climbing in school when you got on 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:02.080 and somewhere along the line they said that that was abuse. 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.000 I know no one of that era that came out 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:11.720 with issues because of that. So the reason you always 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.560 had the parent. Now, then they came with the form. 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.719 Then they then next it was a form that they 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.680 the parent could opt out of having your child if 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:21.919 you don't want your because you always had the mama. 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.479 I don't want y'all hitting on my baby, and they 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:26.160 the biggest fuck up in class. 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:30.360 Okay, we're gonna get back to that, but I want 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.520 to have this conversation about state getting involved in parody. 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:35.920 So one of them, somebody heard. 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:39.800 The podcast Peak the last episode, right conversations about American 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:44.559 TV brands and somebody who's who's been supporting the homie 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:48.520 Mark here, who's been supporting you know, no Selings. 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:49.560 Since the first episode. 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:51.840 So shout out to Mark and anybody else who's been 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.839 supporting the longest journey, you know what I mean. But 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:59.080 he was saying that it bothered him that I always, 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.120 as I'm working things out in my mind, that I 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:06.159 always arrive where you were, right, because I guess in 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.680 theory you're into right wing politics. I guess if you 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.680 would identify, you would identify as a right wing as 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:16.200 a Republican. But knowing you, it's much more complex, right, 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.360 You're like a common sense guy, you know, kind of 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.840 like what makes sense based off of the idea. 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.040 Sure, and you know. 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:30.920 It's always a matter of definitions. People want to you know, 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.280 you can throw a round peg in a square hole 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:35.960 or whatever the hell the expression is. I think I 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:44.040 said it backwards, but you know. 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:42.480 You have to it's for that to be true. 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:45.880 You have to accurately define me in totality and accurately 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:49.200 define what you mean by right wing in totality, because 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.360 a lot of people don't do that either, you know. 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.440 So we gonna jump off for a second. Just just 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:55.160 hold up. 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:57.960 So the first tweet, he said, glasses, can you have 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.440 Van Layton on your show just once when you're working 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:05.520 shit out and always end up siding with Pete's Ronald 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:10.040 Reagan ass politics? And I know why he said that 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:16.440 because Van is, like Van Laythan is a heavy left winger. 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:21.680 Like Van would probably be antifa left wing if he 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:23.800 you know, he's probably a little too smart to be 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:24.680 too antifa. 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:29.040 But that's how he that's how he speaks politics. You 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:29.440 know what I mean. 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:33.720 It's very left wing heavy. And then I laughed, he said. 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:36.439 When I tweeted me back, I laughed. He tweeted me back, 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:41.840 he said, he said, Pete is so intellectually dishonest market 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:45.320 it just really means we're at peak capitalism and the 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:49.959 people he worships deregulated everything and took power out of 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.760 the unions that protected workers in the industry. Then they 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.480 distract voters with racism and anti gay shit. 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:03.600 Okay, but which that's not the point. 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:07.160 So I so I so I DM, and I say, Mark, 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.680 I said, give me five questions to ask Pete right, 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.800 and then mind you right, I told him for ten, 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:17.680 but he gave me five. And and it's funny because 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:22.360 I'm gonna read the tweet again. He said, the people 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:26.240 he worships the regular the people that Pete worships, deregulated 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:29.319 everything and took power out of the unions that protect 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:33.080 workers in the industry, then distract voters with racism and 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:36.440 antigay shit. So I asked him for five questions. And 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.559 the thing that I noticed about these five questions was. 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:41.199 They were like. 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.600 All kind of rooted in race, and I was thinking 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.239 of my stuff, like in his mind, he don't. 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:49.800 Realize how much. 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:56.800 Both sides, both wings, both wings of that bird leaned 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.600 into race to have conversation. And they only lean into 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.520 race because they know that strikes at the court of 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:06.520 humanity of human beings in America. So he gave me 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.320 these five questions. I'm gonna run through them, and then 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.400 we're gonna get back to why I asked these questions 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:16.280 within this conversation, and he said, why do conservatives spend 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:22.280 more time marketing culture, race shit, gay shit to their 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:26.280 base and economics if all they supposedly have policies that 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:28.560 work best for everybody economically. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:38.080 Uh, I don't know the extent. The extent to me, 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.520 I disagree with some of the premise to some degree. 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:49.760 When you say race shit, does that mean? I get 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.320 the sense a lot of times that when people push 0:10:53.440 --> 0:11:00.400 back on race positive let's say ideas with the race 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:05.880 neutral ideas that obviously in the binary you can call 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.520 the other one race driven, you know, from the other 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:10.520 side of the argument. 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.439 Still, do you people, I do get what you're saying. 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.040 That's funny. I do get what you're saying, which. 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.400 Kind of is my thought I and I and it's 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.920 fucked up because I don't like mark I'm saying it 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:26.040 makes sense, Like I watch both sides spend a lot 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:29.400 of time using race to market politics. 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:30.360 Do you feel like that? 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.800 Do you feel like politicians still use too much race 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:34.920 to market politics? 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:36.439 Definitely? 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.280 Definitely, Okay, definitely for sure. 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.000 So the next question he asked is how does free 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:48.360 market capitalism actually help regular black people and the current 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:51.959 climate that is bought and paid for by corporations. 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:56.880 Well, I mean, in numerous ways. It depends on you know, 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:01.160 who is regular like employed. I mean regular black people 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:05.320 are employed, they're making their bills, they're they're they're not 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:10.560 be billionaires. But they're not indigent poor into projects on government. 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:17.439 So the number one thing that capital the free markets 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:25.240 provide is competitive learning curves to bring down prices of 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:28.559 goods and services. That's the number one thing that they provide. 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:33.000 So I just got, you know, another email from you know, 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:37.239 the economist Gail Pooley who wrote the time price economics 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:43.400 books analyzing how the basically over the last one hundred years, 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:49.360 the escalation in wages has outpaced the escalation in goods, 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:50.400 And a lot of it has to do with the 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:55.600 fact that while inflation has fucked off the value of 0:12:55.640 --> 0:13:00.960 the dollar, it's pretty tied in, like there's not a 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:06.079 lot of there's not as much you know, learning curves 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:08.319 as like you can always say we're gonna cut costs 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:10.320 by just not giving you a raise, or we're gonna 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.160 cut costs by just saying you can be fired, or 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:16.719 you can take a pay cut. But the efficiency, the 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:21.920 technology whatever, has driven the cost of things down relative 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:25.640 to time at a greater rate than it has manipulated 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:26.800 the price of wages. 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:27.400 You know. 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:31.960 All Right, Still, so I don't want to leave you 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:35.760 out of this conversation. So but I want to also 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.719 kind of phrase the question like, I don't think. I 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:40.440 keep telling you, I don't think me and you are 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:44.400 really savvy on politics. I think I get base ideology 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:45.800 and then that's what I work from. 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:47.160 I can't like. 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:50.040 My problem is I don't switch because of what's going on. 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:54.040 So I'm gonna ask you a question that makes politics. 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.640 But I'm not a political pundit at all. Don't claim 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:56.840 to be. 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.000 Okay, well, I don't know if you should use the word. 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.280 Did you study politics as much as you keep up? 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.440 Yeah? I keep up with politics, that's proper. 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:10.280 So the question he's asking is how does capitalism, how 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:16.000 can capitalism help black people? And what's the simple definition 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:16.760 of capitalism? 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:20.400 Pete, did he say capitalism or free markets? 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.760 I mean, well, he said free market capitalism, which what's 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:27.120 funny is I totally disagree. I think that was the 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:30.000 point of the American TV Brand conversation. I don't agree 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:34.280 with this global free market capitalism in America. 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:35.880 I think that there is a. 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:41.440 Perversion of a failure to properly separate the definition of 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:46.000 capitalism and the definition of corporatism though those aren't not 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.760 the same thing, and they are at odds with one another. 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:49.600 MMM. 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:54.520 So I think does corporatism help their average working class 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:55.200 black person. 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.080 No, it hurts hm. 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:04.800 I like that corporate corporateism, a corporate versus. 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:08.160 Corporatism which usually involves market manipulation. 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:10.960 Well, correct me if I'm wrong, But it's at all 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:15.360 capitalism just the ability to put a price on the 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.920 demand of a product, like supplying demand. You can charge 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:19.880 what you want to for it. 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:21.880 Essentially, it kind of depends on who you ask, you know. 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.680 I mean some people are adamant that capitalism was just 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.480 a term that, as we know it was largely defined 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:28.160 by Marx. 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:34.240 Like what California is a great example of capitalism, right, 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:38.760 you have a one bedroom apartment downtown Los Angeles, you 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.680 have a one bedroom apartment in paaramount, people are going 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.800 to pay. They can charge a higher premium for that 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.960 same apartment that may be actually inferior to the one 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.800 a paaramount, but based on the location where they're at 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.360 and it convenience of certain things, they can charge what 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:56.200 they want to for it. There's no sept mark saying 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.360 where you have to cut it off right here. I 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.440 think that's what rent control kind of has to do. 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:05.040 But that's capitalism, right, you know, the ability to be 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:07.040 able to call your own shot kind of for something 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.880 that you may own. And I think us as black people, 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:14.720 before we can profit, you know, capitalism could do some 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:16.840 good for us. We got so many other things that 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:18.800 we got to get together. Man, We got to start 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:22.520 learning how money operates in a host of other things, 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:26.280 you know, m hmm. It's like we talked about earlier. 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.080 The average person in the hood that wins a lottery 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.160 is in bankruptcy court within five years. 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.720 The average person who wins a lottery period. But that's 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:39.240 a whole other story. Average American. Yeah, one thing, I'll say. 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:42.440 One thing. 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:47.840 One thing my intellect tells me is black people's problem 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:51.520 in American in America are American problems. They're pretty standard 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:55.760 for most Americans. I think most Americans aren't taught money. 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:59.720 I know that sounds crazy, but I think our problem 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:01.760 are truly American problems. 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:06.400 I don't think it's the truth. Like, yeah, I think. 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.960 Now when we start getting into like uh, because I 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:17.320 don't I don't think like like let's say, police brutality, 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:22.960 I think at that point that becomes like racism. And 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:26.120 and I think most problems in America are racist problems. 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:27.880 I think, And it's it's. 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.280 Maybe we get the worst of it, you know what 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.760 I'm saying, Like, like people that look like us get 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.679 the worst of it. But there's a few things that 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.919 I feel like that are really I don't think America 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.520 as a country does a great job of teaching its 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:47.280 citizens about money. You know, I just think they do 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.040 a horrible I don't remember, like I had all ap classes. 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.800 I don't remember taking anything about money. I mean, none 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.080 of it was. You would think they had certain courses 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.720 that are requirements. None of them are required about money. 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:02.639 Which really, like I said, so, our issues with economics 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.480 are very much American problems for most American citizens. 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:07.560 They're raised. 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.840 Gee, if they think about this, the average person when 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.960 we usually let's keep it let's be honest here, right, 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.200 most black people when they do come up on something 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:22.120 that's very rare, that is from a traditional field, right, 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:26.360 they're used the exceptionalist something either sports, music or whatever, right, 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:30.399 whatever have you, Right, and they get this nice summer money, 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:32.680 which you find out later on you really ain't got 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:34.480 no money, right, you know, you get one hundred thousand 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.760 dollars check. Your life is not gonna change that much. 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:40.000 It's nice, and it's lovely, But how many times have 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:40.800 we had that happen? 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:46.160 And I think, like real quick, like in any field. 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:50.280 Of work that requires you having an agent, you're gonna 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:53.760 have some real problems with money because your agent's job 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:58.359 is to not only do represent you, but they're also 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.200 selling themselves to you again to other agents, so they're 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:04.119 setting you up with an expectation that there always is 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.399 going to be more money there than there really is, 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:10.800 whether you're an athlete and music, an actor, whatever it 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:15.840 might be. I don't think that the rate of squandered 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:21.120 fortunes among successful black attorneys is above one in a thousand, 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:28.840 you know, But in professional athletics it's fairly high. 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:32.400 You're right, And that's what I'm saying because an attorney 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.000 has to do what in order to be in order 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:36.879 to practice this trade, he has to go to school 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:39.520 a certain amount of years. So these people are very 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.760 savvy at a number of different things. My sister is 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:45.439 an attorney in Atlanta, and she's great with money. She 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:49.480 lives very well, almost below her means, not saying that 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.440 she living in squalor, but you know, if she don't 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:55.320 have a big ten bedroom house, she has a two 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:59.159 bedroom condo with her dog, and she's been driving the 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:02.359 same truck for the past ten years, and I'm pretty 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:03.960 sure she can go out and get the new test 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:05.800 of truck if she wanted through. She sees all that 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:11.760 stuff is just irresponsible her mind, like that's irresponsible. It's like, 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.000 why do you need that? You just need a vehicle 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.919 to go where you need to go. She goes on 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:19.120 trips now where she does spend money on his trip, 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:23.040 but she doesn't do the frugal stuff most and that's 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:25.800 just something. Most people that I know that do have 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:28.199 it to spend not any of that stuff. I know 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:31.679 a guy that's a billionaire. He was just telling me 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:34.399 about some construction he just completed off to six o 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:36.800 five right, that's gonna pay him something like seven hundred 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:41.159 thousand a month. He drives F one fifty and been 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:44.440 driving that same F one fifty for the past fifteen years. 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:49.160 So I noticed the people that don't have money spend 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:51.680 it like they just it's never going to end. It's 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:53.720 like a well somewhere. They got an ATM in they 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:56.320 closet to where they can just pull out money. I've been, 0:20:56.800 --> 0:21:00.320 I've been, I've done that, I've been. Here are your 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:01.280 responsible with money. 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:06.840 Third question, if racist white folks at the top have 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:11.479 a history of using racism to distract poor and mediocre whites, 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:15.120 why should black folks align with their policies? 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:21.240 You know what I'm saying. 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:23.520 I'm not saying I don't understand the question, but I 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:24.560 don't understand like. 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:30.640 Which policies and which folks. 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:34.119 Like in the previous episode, I was making the case 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:38.639 that a lot of that stems from old white Democrat 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:46.160 politicians and their policies. You know, Republican policies don't really 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.760 do the same thing. So like, it's not such a 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:51.359 cut and dry question to answer. 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:55.560 You know what I'm saying, I don't reading these questions 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:56.560 and market smart. 0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:58.840 But it's also again. 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:03.840 Man, racial issue can make you irrationally emotional. Now I'm 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:06.439 not saying this is what's happening in his case, but 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:11.400 I'm saying the question reads like I get. 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:14.800 The gist of what he's saying from a rationale standpoint, 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:16.800 but from a bolt standpoint. 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:19.359 Yeah, I don't rationale standpoint. I get it from an 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:20.760 emotional standpoint. 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:21.600 Yeah. 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:22.919 No, I mean, I mean, I mean I get the 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:25.000 process of where he's coming from with the question, but 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:27.320 I think the nuts and bolts of the way I 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:29.920 want to answer the question don't align with the questions 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:30.920 framing itself. 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:34.240 Sure again, because. 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:45.560 Okay, the greatest fear so Black people, for the most 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:51.040 part in this country are raised with conservative values, right 0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:56.600