Speaker 1: My name is Trim and this is Saigon, the story
Speaker 1: of my family and of the country that shaped us.
Speaker 2: The United States will not stand by and allow any power,
Speaker 2: however great ape over.
Speaker 3: Another time.
Speaker 4: Or a naturally expo And I brought on the commuty.
Speaker 5: Land a bad bady battle.
Speaker 3: Don't landed e bable.
Speaker 6: That can be no peace without justice, And that can
Speaker 6: be no justice without peace.
Speaker 1: Chapter three.
Speaker 2: Yesterday Besembus nineteen forty one, a date which will live
Speaker 2: in infamy. The United States of America was suddenly and
Speaker 2: deliberately attacked by naval and their courses of the Empire
Speaker 2: of Japan.
Speaker 1: America had stayed out of the wars in Europe and
Speaker 1: Asia until the attack on Pearl Harbor. Then they were
Speaker 1: all in and immediately began calling up every able bodied
Speaker 1: American willing to fight for freedom and liberty. Which is
Speaker 1: how Joseph Sherman came to be flying a p from
Speaker 1: the famous Flying Tiger Squadron based in Kunming, China.
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is Flying Tiger RB five to kod Mean
Speaker 7: Air Base Coon Mean, can you read me?
Speaker 5: I've taken a hit from Japanese ground fire.
Speaker 8: Leaking oil.
Speaker 7: I got low fuel pressure, No got engine failure, losing
Speaker 7: altitude to me, you.
Speaker 5: Read me, you can't get can't be stuck? Is anyone
Speaker 5: hearing me?
Speaker 6: Coon me.
Speaker 8: Could me?
Speaker 7: I'm somewhere near that trying to Vietnam boarder and sell
Speaker 7: the jungle Down there I.
Speaker 1: Can parachuting into jungle trees knocked Joseph unconscious. When he woke,
Speaker 1: he was on the floor of a wooden hut, covered
Speaker 1: by a soft blanket.
Speaker 9: Ah, you're awake.
Speaker 5: Where am I?
Speaker 9: You're safe? Joseph. You're in Packba, northern Tonkin, about a
Speaker 9: kilometer south of the Chinese border. Some Loong tribesmen found you.
Speaker 3: And brought you here.
Speaker 1: Joseph stared at the man talking to him. He was
Speaker 1: thin with a wispy beard.
Speaker 9: And yet are you I can't be yes, it's me Kim.
Speaker 9: We heard a few days ago from a local commander
Speaker 9: that an American had crashed in the jungle, and he
Speaker 9: gave his name, and here I am my friend.
Speaker 5: I don't know how to thank you. You saved my life.
Speaker 9: We share a common enemy. And now you can find
Speaker 9: another day. Keep resting. I will be back soon.
Speaker 1: In a few minutes, Kim returned with a man who
Speaker 1: looked like an older version of himself, thin of hair
Speaker 1: and stature, but with piercing eyes.
Speaker 4: Ah, mister Sherman brought an honor to meet a pilot
Speaker 4: from the famous Flying Tiger Squadron.
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you, sir. I'm in your debt.
Speaker 4: My name is Jorchi mean they called me Alcoho and
Speaker 4: we are the vietname and the lions are paid is
Speaker 4: fighting to liberate our country. We're waiting guerrilla warfare against
Speaker 4: the Japanese outposts in this region.
Speaker 2: Just like you.
Speaker 4: You could say we are brothers.
Speaker 5: What about the French? Do they help help us? Not
Speaker 5: at all?
Speaker 4: The surrender to Japan and then supported invasion. We hope
Speaker 4: when Japan is defeated, the French will accept our independence.
Speaker 4: But if they do not, well, the America is our inspiration.
Speaker 4: It was the first colony in the world to win
Speaker 4: independence through revolution. If it must, our little country will
Speaker 4: emulate that deed.
Speaker 5: That sounds determined.
Speaker 4: Oh, Vietnam will win independence, mister Sherman. But in the
Speaker 4: short term, we're asking you to carry a message back
Speaker 4: to your American commanders at the airbase in Quinming.
Speaker 10: Well, I would if I, but how can I if
Speaker 10: we're in talking it must be a long way, yes,
Speaker 10: about two hundred kilometers.
Speaker 4: Comrade came, well, and sure you make it back. Then
Speaker 4: you can tell them about us and what we are
Speaker 4: doing to repel the Japanese, and how much more we
Speaker 4: could do for America if we had jeeps, machine guns, grenades, radios.
Speaker 10: Of course, I'll do my best. I can't promise that
Speaker 10: they'll listen, but I'll give it everything I got.
Speaker 4: Yes, we understand that.
Speaker 5: Do the best you can.
Speaker 4: Comrade Kim has spoken highly of you, and take care,
Speaker 4: mister Sherman.
Speaker 5: Yes, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 9: Don't worry, Jose, It'll be a few more days before.
Speaker 5: We leave, Kim. I can I just ask about land.
Speaker 8: My sister?
Speaker 5: Yes, do you have any news, any news at all?
Speaker 9: I suppose she has stayed in Sego, but I haven't
Speaker 9: heard from her since the day my father threw me out.
Speaker 10: She said she was going to marry Paul de Rou
Speaker 10: That was nine years ago. You remember, Paul, I.
Speaker 9: Remember all the difference. My father used to grovel to
Speaker 9: them all the time.
Speaker 3: It made me sick?
Speaker 5: Was it you come? I have to know me what
Speaker 5: Paul's father? Did you kill Paul's father?
Speaker 8: Paul?
Speaker 5: Paul didn't think you could, but you were the last
Speaker 5: person seen with him.
Speaker 9: Joseph, the people it's will killed Jack Diville. That's the truth.
Speaker 9: You should try standing up. We'd have to get stronger
Speaker 9: so we can start the journey. Yeah, I give you
Speaker 9: a hand.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 1: It would be another week before they left the gorilla
Speaker 1: camp at Pac Foe, and three weeks before they finally
Speaker 1: reached the Flying Tiger air base that cut Ming. Then,
Speaker 1: after hearing Joseph out, America did join force with Ho
Speaker 1: Chi Min's Vietnamese nationalists. It is one of the least
Speaker 1: known quirks of history. America supplied Ho Chi Minh with equipment, weaponry,
Speaker 1: and three US advisors, one being Joseph Sherman, who spent
Speaker 1: months back in the Pacbo jungle training Ho Chi Min's
Speaker 1: rebel army. Together, America and Ho Chi Minh did drive
Speaker 1: the Japanese out of Vietnam, and by late nineteen forty
Speaker 1: five their defeat was complete. A month after the devastation
Speaker 1: of Hiroshima, a triumphant Ho Chi Minh marched into Hanoi
Speaker 1: and opened his victory speech by quoting from America's Declaration
Speaker 1: of independence. For more than eighty years, he continued, the
Speaker 1: French imperialist abusing the standard of liberty, equality and fraternity,
Speaker 1: have violated our fatherland and oppressed our fellow citizens. Hoe
Speaker 1: then recounted how the French had capitulated to the Japanese
Speaker 1: in nineteen forty, and how it had been his Vietnam nationalists,
Speaker 1: with America's help, who had finally freed Vietnam. For these reasons,
Speaker 1: Hoe concluded, we, the members of the Provisional Government, declare
Speaker 1: that from now on we abolish all the special rights
Speaker 1: the French have unlawfully acquired in our fatherland. We are convinced.
Speaker 1: He finished that the Allied nations, which have acknowledged the
Speaker 1: principles of self determination, will not refuse to acknowledge the
Speaker 1: independence of Vietnam. Unfortunately, Hoe's can was misplaced. He wrote
Speaker 1: three letters to President Truman seeking American recognition for his
Speaker 1: Provisional Government and never received a reply. Meanwhile, the French
Speaker 1: were telling everyone that Vietnam was still rightfully theirs. By
Speaker 1: the time Joseph returned to Saigon as a liaison officer
Speaker 1: between the Vietman and the American army, no one was
Speaker 1: sure who was governing what anywhere in Vietnam.
Speaker 8: Can I park here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, But Joseph also knew that in a world of change,
Speaker 1: some things stay the same. And as the sun set,
Speaker 1: he was pretty sure that if Paul Devereux was in
Speaker 1: town an off duty.
Speaker 5: Joseph Sherman, Paul, I knew i'd find you here.
Speaker 1: He would probably be in the terrace cafe of the
Speaker 1: Continental Palace Hotel.
Speaker 5: Some thing's never changed. Find the best table in town.
Speaker 6: Mon dieu, of all the people, how long has it been?
Speaker 6: Can't believe you're back a drink?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 10: Thanks, Yeah, I've been up in the north for a
Speaker 10: couple of years now. I signed up to the Air Force.
Speaker 10: I got posted out to kuon Ming.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm glad they let you come down to Saigon
Speaker 6: before sending you home.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know it feels different this time.
Speaker 6: The world work and have that effect on the place.
Speaker 10: True, true, true, But still it used to welcome builders. Yeah,
Speaker 10: Now everyone looks suspicious, like they don't know who's on
Speaker 10: what side.
Speaker 6: Well, the Americans left Lison Gli in charge after Japan
Speaker 6: was beaten, but they're about to hand it back to us,
Speaker 6: so it won't be too long before everything gets.
Speaker 5: Back to normal, you think, So, what about the Viet Min.
Speaker 1: What about them?
Speaker 6: We can't let them run things? Why not, it'd be
Speaker 6: a recipe for chaos. Look, our army is back here properly.
Speaker 6: Now we know this country. Most Vietnamese want the French
Speaker 6: in charge.
Speaker 5: Are you sure about that?
Speaker 6: Come on, Joseph, of course they do. There is a loud,
Speaker 6: fanatical fringe we have to deal with, but they are
Speaker 6: just a fringe. Vietnam will only prosper when it's back
Speaker 6: under French control.
Speaker 10: Well, you always were the optimist, Paul. I'm not sure
Speaker 10: the locals would agree with you.
Speaker 6: But well, Sante, So how's land fine? As far as
Speaker 6: I know, you haven't seen that much of each other.
Speaker 6: Oh well, obviously I joined the army. I'm on constant
Speaker 6: tours of duty. But when everything settles down, we'll get
Speaker 6: back to a proper married life. She's staying with her
Speaker 6: parents at the moment. Our battalions off again tonight, flying
Speaker 6: up to Hanoi. I won't see her for another three
Speaker 6: months at least. Enough aut me. What about you, Joseph?
Speaker 6: Married children?
Speaker 5: Well, yes, married to Marilyn. Ah, we have a son,
Speaker 5: and we have a place.
Speaker 1: Joseph briefly recounted the last nine years, but with little passion.
Speaker 1: He had married a Californian woman and settled into a
Speaker 1: tolerable state of affairs. The following morning, he drove his
Speaker 1: army issue jeep straight to the Hugh family villa.
Speaker 9: Ah.
Speaker 5: Madame Hugh, how are you?
Speaker 11: Yes?
Speaker 10: Oh, sorry, I know it's been a long time, but
Speaker 10: we have met before. It's Joseph Sherman. Oh, I was
Speaker 10: briefly here eight or gosh nine years ago, and our
Speaker 10: two families spent some time together a decade before that.
Speaker 11: When my father brought us out, I didn't recognize you.
Speaker 5: Yes, well, it's been a long war.
Speaker 10: I probably don't look like the young man you remember,
Speaker 10: and I should not have assumed you would. My apologies,
Speaker 10: but yeah, I have such fond memories of your whole family,
Speaker 10: Madame Hugh, then especially your wonderful daughter Land. And when
Speaker 10: I posted back here for a few weeks, I thought
Speaker 10: I should drop in and say.
Speaker 11: Hello, did you, Monsieur Sherman.
Speaker 5: Well, yes, yes, I.
Speaker 11: You might have fond memories, but I'm afraid we do not. Goodbye.
Speaker 5: Don't wait, I don't understand.
Speaker 11: We do not have fond memories of your last visit.
Speaker 11: You made our daughter very unhappy and then disappeared.
Speaker 5: No, I didn't.
Speaker 10: She was marrying Paul Devreux. How could I make her unhappy?
Speaker 10: Please go, I would never want to see your daughter unhappy.
Speaker 5: Please please, Madame Hugh. I must, I must, I have
Speaker 5: to know what I did. I cannot now no.
Speaker 8: Very well.
Speaker 5: Waiting there, thank you.
Speaker 12: I will tell Land. She has a visitor.
Speaker 1: That night one night that I'm going here?
Speaker 12: Is that Ombia.
Speaker 11: Joseph?
Speaker 5: Hello, La, you've lost eight ah, Yes, diet the second
Speaker 5: casualty of war, the.
Speaker 11: Tacomah.
Speaker 10: I saw Paul last night. This is my first time
Speaker 10: back in Saigon. He said you were here, so I
Speaker 10: had to come. Even though you never answered my letters,
Speaker 10: you did get my letters. I thought of you often,
Speaker 10: lend more than I should admit. I didn't know what
Speaker 10: to think when you never replied.
Speaker 11: It was impossible.
Speaker 5: It's impossible.
Speaker 11: You have a wedding ring?
Speaker 10: Well, yes, but that that wasn't until I mean, it
Speaker 10: was three years after I had left. I'd heard nothing.
Speaker 10: I believe there was nothing. Her name's Marilyn. We have
Speaker 10: a son Gary.
Speaker 5: She's a good woman, but not like you. No one's
Speaker 5: like you, Lenn, don't. How's life with Paul, it is
Speaker 5: what it had to be.
Speaker 10: Your mother told me I made you very unhappy, but
Speaker 10: I loved you and you were marrying Paul. Then you
Speaker 10: never answered my letters.
Speaker 5: Please, Landa. I just want to understand.
Speaker 11: I had a baby, Joseph, Oh god, our child, a
Speaker 11: little girl, Oh my God. After you left, I found
Speaker 11: out I was pregnant and Joseph, you were the father.
Speaker 11: But I was marrying Paul, so I couldn't tell you that.
Speaker 11: But I couldn't lie, so I couldn't write. Paul knows nothing.
Speaker 11: He was away so much and my parents told him
Speaker 11: I was ill. I needed country air to recover before
Speaker 11: the wedding, so he never knew anything. No one did.
Speaker 5: Where is she? I need to see her?
Speaker 11: Wait here. Her name is too Yette. This is the
Speaker 11: only picture I have of her because of the shame
Speaker 11: he will bring on the family. My father gave her
Speaker 11: to a servant and paid for his silence with a
Speaker 11: house and a wife in one of the villages outside Hey.
Speaker 11: This was taken on her third birthday. I had begged
Speaker 11: to see her and my parents had refused, but finally
Speaker 11: my mother agreed to arrange for one photo. If I
Speaker 11: never mention her again she looks.
Speaker 6: Like me.
Speaker 11: Yes, she has your eyes.
Speaker 5: Do you know where she is now?
Speaker 11: I know where she was, But that whole stretch of
Speaker 11: coach in China is now in famine. The Japanese burns
Speaker 11: the crops as they retreated. There is no rice. I
Speaker 11: have spent the last few months thinking of nothing else,
Speaker 11: just worrying how she's surviving. Joseph, do you have a car?
Speaker 5: H yes, right outside.
Speaker 11: But help me, please help me find our daughter.
Speaker 1: And in less than an hour they were heading north,
Speaker 1: driving through the middle of the country.
Speaker 12: The further they.
Speaker 1: Drove, the worse things looked. The land became burnt and barren,
Speaker 1: and signs of people in livestock were fewer and fewer. Finally,
Speaker 1: eight hours from Saigon, the occasional farmhouse gave way to
Speaker 1: a huddle of shops and huts on either side of
Speaker 1: the road. A lifeless silence hung heavily in the air.
Speaker 11: Is this it? I'm not sure? Oh?
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 11: Is it's one of these places between here and Canton?
Speaker 5: What's that?
Speaker 4: Hi?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 12: Come ye.
Speaker 11: Made it?
Speaker 5: Look what she's saying.
Speaker 11: Yeah, she's saying. The Japanese destroyed all they could as
Speaker 11: they were treated and killed the adults burnt everything. Then
Speaker 11: the Allies swept through, and now there's nothing. She says,
Speaker 11: it's hell on earth.
Speaker 1: The next three villages were the same, but at the
Speaker 1: fourth there was a grand old colonial hotel that had
Speaker 1: miraculously survived the devastation.
Speaker 5: We've seen less than a dozen people in fifty kilometers.
Speaker 5: There's no one left.
Speaker 11: We can't give up now, Joseph. We have to keep going.
Speaker 11: We must.
Speaker 5: We need to get out of the rain.
Speaker 8: At least.
Speaker 5: Do you think that place over there is still in business.
Speaker 11: It won't be America if it is all right.
Speaker 5: Well, let's see.
Speaker 8: Hello, anyone here, welcome a young ja home on those guests.
Speaker 5: Hello, we wondered if you had a room available.
Speaker 3: Let me see hmmm, yes, oh, it seems we have
Speaker 3: a room available for how many nights?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Just one night? Thank you?
Speaker 8: Hmm.
Speaker 3: Okay, and let me to arrange for your luggage to
Speaker 3: be taken up.
Speaker 5: We have no luggage. Yeah, it's just just us, the.
Speaker 3: Girl, Madam monsieur. If you will follow me, I will
Speaker 3: escort you to your suit.
Speaker 11: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Of course, we have seen better days.
Speaker 13: Once we were known at the finest hotel in the
Speaker 13: province that could offer to release civilized compirsed.
Speaker 3: Is discerning visitors.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 13: We had the top French administrators, politicians, sportsmen, those who
Speaker 13: came to head even loyalty. The grand ballroom mhm, the dancing,
Speaker 13: the music, sometime all night, such time they wear, Madam,
Speaker 13: It's just such time.
Speaker 8: Ah, come.
Speaker 3: Number sieur.
Speaker 8: You should.
Speaker 3: Towels are in the bathroom, extra blankets in the wardrobe.
Speaker 5: Electricity no electricity issue.
Speaker 3: We are waiting for the engineer.
Speaker 2: But we have water.
Speaker 8: Resting the pipes.
Speaker 3: Let it run for a little and it will become clever.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 3: Is there anything else I can help you with?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 11: Everything is perfect.
Speaker 3: Then I will leave you to settle. Dinner will be
Speaker 3: served in alf an hour.
Speaker 9: Okay.
Speaker 11: Well, we have a ceiling and a bed. We can
Speaker 11: make do what.
Speaker 5: Could possibly be on the menu for dinner. You can't
Speaker 5: have any food left, Shirley.
Speaker 1: They were dining by candlelight and with a flourish of
Speaker 1: culinary triumph.
Speaker 14: Well, okay, a perfect jeury, Madame monsieur, hard boiled eggs
Speaker 14: and overcooked rice.
Speaker 5: Not certainly a French culinary experience.
Speaker 11: We will find you yet tomorrow. I can feel it, Joseph,
Speaker 11: someone will.
Speaker 5: Help us yes, we may not, though, land We're not
Speaker 5: even sure where to look.
Speaker 11: She's out there somewhere alone, frightened. Someone has to know something.
Speaker 5: Well, I might know someone. We both know him. Actually, Oh,
Speaker 5: your brother.
Speaker 11: Kim.
Speaker 10: When I was shot down over Tong Kin and I
Speaker 10: spent a few weeks at the Viet Min rebel base
Speaker 10: in Puckbow, and.
Speaker 11: Kim was there.
Speaker 5: Yes, Oh my, how is he well, he's a trusted
Speaker 5: Viet Min comrade. He's high up in their structure.
Speaker 11: I miss him. I was so upset when my father
Speaker 11: disowned him.
Speaker 5: He misses you too, Lan. We talked of you often.
Speaker 5: He's well connected. He could help us find too. Yet,
Speaker 5: when we get back, I could try to reach him.
Speaker 11: You have to, and he would help. I'm sure he would.
Speaker 5: H Are you comfortable?
Speaker 11: Yes, hold my hand. Listen to the rain. That reminds
Speaker 11: me of my childhood. M I used to listen to
Speaker 11: it and wonder if it would wash everything into the
Speaker 11: perfumed river, all my worries.
Speaker 5: Did you hear that?
Speaker 6: Here?
Speaker 9: What?
Speaker 2: Hm?
Speaker 5: There's someone outside of our room. Let's just stay there.
Speaker 5: I'll be back.
Speaker 7: What are you going to do?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 9: What?
Speaker 8: Now? Money?
Speaker 2: Give me?
Speaker 11: What?
Speaker 8: Give me money? Didn't get money.
Speaker 12: Don't argue, Joseph.
Speaker 11: They have nice.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, all right, okay, money more money, Okay, hold on,
Speaker 5: come on, come on.
Speaker 11: My Yeah, you carry a gun.
Speaker 5: I'm in the military land, of course I do. We
Speaker 5: don't make it obvious, but I'm always armed.
Speaker 12: Who were they?
Speaker 11: Do you think?
Speaker 1: Not just these?
Speaker 5: It's a country full of desperate people.
Speaker 11: They had machetes. Wait, where are you going south?
Speaker 5: No, Joseph, we have to keep Look, we can't land.
Speaker 5: It's hopeless.
Speaker 11: It's hopeless.
Speaker 1: As dawn broke, we were back in the first village
Speaker 1: they drove through.
Speaker 11: Look it's that woman again.
Speaker 1: It was the same old woman they'd seen the day before.
Speaker 5: I think she's all right. She's bleeding. Her face is bruised. Wait,
Speaker 5: la land Wait, Land.
Speaker 12: That hit zoyady money light lamp loveday gone.
Speaker 5: I'll move.
Speaker 12: Please, she says. A gang of kids have been living
Speaker 12: in the caves. She thought they'd left, but they haven't.
Speaker 12: Whenever they get cold or hungry, they come out and
Speaker 12: steal whatever they can.
Speaker 5: What caves where.
Speaker 12: A donkey over there to the west, and.
Speaker 5: The embers are warm. They must be close.
Speaker 11: They are Look in the cave, what they're watching us,
Speaker 11: so should we go up there?
Speaker 3: What do we do?
Speaker 11: Let's see if we can make them come out? How
Speaker 11: food before we left to act, bananas, grapes, bread, Oh,
Speaker 11: nice thinking.
Speaker 1: Joseph kept his eye on the cave as Land spread
Speaker 1: the snacks across the hood of the jeep.
Speaker 12: We've brought food.
Speaker 5: Do on, go on, go on, it's okay.
Speaker 1: Almost immediately a pair of wide eyes appeared from the
Speaker 1: dark gloom of the cave's interior. Then another.
Speaker 5: We're friends, bond friends, friends, Okay, come.
Speaker 1: It wasn't long before three boys carefully inged forwards.
Speaker 5: I think they're coming.
Speaker 11: Eats food, Stay still, we don't want to scare them.
Speaker 5: Oh look, there are others. Get more of the food out.
Speaker 5: That's good, that's good.
Speaker 4: God.
Speaker 5: Oh they're scared. Step back, give them some space.
Speaker 8: Good. Yeah.
Speaker 11: Joseph looks a little girl on the left, hiding behind
Speaker 11: the other hand. She looks different in we know.
Speaker 6: Is that.
Speaker 11: To yet?
Speaker 1: It took three days before they tempted the child close
Speaker 1: enough to take their food.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hi there, Yeah, that's it, have it? Yeah, there
Speaker 5: you go.
Speaker 11: What's your name?
Speaker 6: Me?
Speaker 11: Ti?
Speaker 5: Yet too yet?
Speaker 6: Me?
Speaker 5: Joseph, you too yet?
Speaker 1: And it took a week before she trusted them enough
Speaker 1: to get into the jeep, and for the rest of
Speaker 1: her life there was always a splinter of doubt about
Speaker 1: the world around her. I know this because she was
Speaker 1: to be my mother, and Lane and Joseph are my grandparents.
Speaker 1: But let's not get ahead of ourselves. There's still so
Speaker 1: much to tell.
Speaker 6: Zigon is a production of Thoroughbred Studios, gold Hog Productions
Speaker 6: and iHeart Podcasts, starring Kelly, Marie Trn and Rob Benedict.
Speaker 5: Based on the best selling novel Cygone by Anthony Gray.
Speaker 5: It is created for audio by Greg Hadrick and Jeremy Fox,
Speaker 5: written by Greg Hadrick and directed by John Scott Dryden.
Speaker 9: Original music is by Sasha Putnam, with additional performances by
Speaker 9: Non mgnir and Letipig Cheer.
Speaker 5: Editing and sound design is by Elouise Whitmore.
Speaker 6: The series producer is Emma Hernon.
Speaker 5: The producer in Vietnam is Fatmung Nihen. The executive producers
Speaker 5: are Jeremy Fox, Greg Hadrick, John Scott Dryden, Howard Stringer
Speaker 5: and Jason English.