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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Thursday edition of the Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. Great to be here with all

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Speaker 1: of you across this great land of ours. We have

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Speaker 1: updates on the air campaign against Iran, the War from

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Speaker 1: the Sky, continuing on President Trump weighing in with his

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Speaker 1: assessment of how this is going so far. Concerns rising

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Speaker 1: as the Strait of Horror Moves has become a bit

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Speaker 1: of a ghost town, not a lot of shipping going

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Speaker 1: through there because of concerns about Iranian reprisals, oil prices

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Speaker 1: jumping a little bit, some are starting to hit the

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Speaker 1: Pannikin button. On that one. We will look at the

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Speaker 1: analysis and where things actually are and what is likely

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Speaker 1: to happen. More on that Texas Senate race. More on

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Speaker 1: James Tallarico, and I have to say some of the

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Speaker 1: chatter online is, guys, we have to hold some of

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Speaker 1: these clips until closer to the election because some of

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Speaker 1: them are truly astonishing, and the fact that Democrats believe

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Speaker 1: that this is a person who will win a Senate

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Speaker 1: seat in Texas. I wouldn't want this person in charge

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Speaker 1: of the mister softy stand on the corner. This guy

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Speaker 1: is a loon. This guy is crazy, but we'll get

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Speaker 1: into it. But he quotes the Bible. So if you

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Speaker 1: work for the New York Times, anybody who kind of

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Speaker 1: sounds like this and quotes the Bible has to be

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Speaker 1: a godly man and so he must know something. Even

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Speaker 1: though he thinks that Jesus all about trans all about

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Speaker 1: transing the youth, Big Jesus huge into transing the kids.

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Speaker 1: According to James Tallerico, we'll talk more about this, and

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Speaker 1: also I'm a little too excited about this actually, but

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Speaker 1: apparently it's not the first of its kind. But a rule,

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Speaker 1: a rule for the Skies has nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: our air warn iran, a rule for the Skies when

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Speaker 1: it comes to air travel, that is, I think in

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Speaker 1: defense of Western civilization. I think finally the savages are

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Speaker 1: on their back heels thanks to a United Airlines rule

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Speaker 1: that if you you know, you know, Clay. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to get into right now because we have more

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Speaker 1: important things. But this gets me very excited. And you

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Speaker 1: know what it has to do with headphone usage on planes.

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Speaker 1: The savages can no longer have their way with just

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Speaker 1: playing their iPads and their phones with no headphones. So

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Speaker 1: we all have to hear whatever garbage they're watching or listening.

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Speaker 2: To it is.

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Speaker 3: There's a bunch We're gonna have some fun and also

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Speaker 3: talk about serious things that are going on right now.

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Speaker 3: I love the James Tallarico story because this thing is

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Speaker 3: just an utter disaster. We're gonna go to Israel, by

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Speaker 3: the way, at the bottom of this hour with Yell

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Speaker 3: Extein and hear what it's like in Israel right now,

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Speaker 3: and then our buddy Ryan Gardusky's going to be on

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Speaker 3: with us to talk to some of this Tallarico and

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Speaker 3: decision making as it pertains to the Senate as the

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Speaker 3: primaries have started. But Buck, I think the biggest and

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Speaker 3: most important thing about Iran right now, if you look

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Speaker 3: at the overall trajectory of where we're headed, is what

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Speaker 3: is the exit strategy for Iran in the context of

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Speaker 3: to what extent are they going to reach a leader

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Speaker 3: that we are okay with? Because I would suggest I'm

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Speaker 3: curious if you would how you would analyze this Iran

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Speaker 3: strategy right now I think is going to be, Hey,

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Speaker 3: we'll just take as many bombs as necessary, and the

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Speaker 3: president is not going to stay committed to this long

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Speaker 3: range and all we've got to do is with stand

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Speaker 3: four or five weeks of significant bombing and then we'll

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Speaker 3: stick our heads up, see who is still around, and

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Speaker 3: we'll just elevate somebody. I think this is what the

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Speaker 3: government in power right now is thinking. The next diet

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Speaker 3: is not going to be a lot different than the past.

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Speaker 3: Dyea tola, and we will try to rebuild from the

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Speaker 3: destruction that is there. I think the question is to

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Speaker 3: the longer this goes on, the tougher it gets for Trump.

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Speaker 3: But the reality is when we're bombing from a distance,

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Speaker 3: I don't think it really impacts a lot of Americans

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Speaker 1: Well, this is what I mentioned war angle, the oil

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Speaker 1: take into consideration here the Straight of Horn moves he

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Speaker 1: has to change. Trump meanwhile saying this has cut fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Things are going great from the aerial warfront, even better

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Speaker 2: We're doing very well on the warfront.

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Speaker 4: To put it mildly, I would say, somebody said, on

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Speaker 4: the scale of ten, where would you're ready?

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Speaker 2: I said, about a fifteen.

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Speaker 1: The leadership is just rapidly going.

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Speaker 2: Everybody that.

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Speaker 1: Seems to want to be a leader, they end up dead.

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Speaker 1: And it's an amazing, amazing thing that's taking place. And

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Speaker 1: he's saying on a scale of ten, I would rate

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Speaker 1: one of the big parts of this is tracking and

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Speaker 1: things that US and Israeli planes are looking to pick off.

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Speaker 1: Not only are we picking them off at the moment they

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Speaker 1: to the Iranian regime. The military out gunning that we

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Speaker 3: And again, one of the things that is so interesting,

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Speaker 3: start to see an evolution rapidly. You've seen it with

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure you know how long it's going to exist.

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Speaker 3: But I think there's an argument that boots on the

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Speaker 3: And let me hit you with this question, Buck, because

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about it this morning as I was

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Speaker 3: and we could have taken out Saddam Hussein. We didn't,

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Speaker 3: In today's technology, we would have just been able to

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Speaker 3: that would have changed nineteen ninety and two thousand and

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Speaker 3: think that President Trump, who just said to Axios Kahmane's

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Speaker 3: I have to be involved in the appointment, President Trump

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Speaker 3: to Axios, I have to be involved in the appointment.

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Speaker 3: So the current kid that they're trying to elevate, I say, kid,

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Speaker 3: And Trump says, I need to be involved in the

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Speaker 3: So I think what you're seeing is the White House

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Speaker 3: sees this as a Venezuela like situation. Now the wild

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Speaker 3: You're skeptical on that that it's more difficult without us

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Speaker 3: being boots on a ground to actually have a regime change.

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Speaker 1: Well, I gotta tell you. And we have so many veterans,

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Speaker 1: what they are in the areas that are Kurdish. But

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Speaker 1: you get big problems. There's big problems in Iraq and

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Speaker 1: it could cause I think, big problems in Iran. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's why the administer, the administration knows. I

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Speaker 1: First of all, you have to get out of You

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Speaker 1: We've taken out the major military equipment, but until people

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Speaker 1: I think what they want is a constitutional monarchy. Rather,

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Speaker 1: I think that would be the best situation. You bring

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Speaker 1: back the Shaw, you have a constitution, you have elections.

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Speaker 1: of time. Maybe that's the way, but this is the

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Speaker 1: big missing piece here. I mean, I feel much better

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Speaker 1: about what's going to happen in Venezuela, or I should

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Speaker 1: say higher confidence level about what's going to happen in

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Speaker 1: Venezuela over the next three years than I're on right now.

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Speaker 1: It's just an unknown.

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Speaker 3: I think all that is is well said. Here's one

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Speaker 3: thing that I would I would say, I think the

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Speaker 3: way we could get out as we declare victory, we

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Speaker 3: allow someone that we don't think is actually anywhere near

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Speaker 3: as bad as the Ayatola to come to power. And

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Speaker 3: here's the stick. The cart is Okay, you're the new

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 3: We have demonstrated that we can kill any leader of

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Speaker 3: Iran basically whenever the president of the United States or

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Speaker 3: if you get a new ruler, that the president is

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Speaker 2: I think we can discount the ferocity of the Israel

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Speaker 2: Well, what we're seeing is the war of good versus

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Speaker 3: What is the general goal in your mind? Yell, and

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Speaker 2: Well, October seventh changed everything for Israel and also, I

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Speaker 2: We have seen miracles, Clay and viag and you are

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Speaker 3: One of this super positive potential outcomes here is Saudi

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Speaker 3: The Abraham Accords have been a tremendous success, I think, y'all,

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Speaker 3: the past? How would you assess the larger picture here

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Speaker 3: right now?

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Speaker 2: What I know for a fact is that darkness hates light.

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Speaker 2: And so when you're talking about Saudi Arabia potentially joining

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Speaker 2: this Abraham Accord, that would be historic, that would change

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Speaker 2: the entire Middle East and would change the entire world.

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Speaker 2: Really through this alliance between Israel and Saudi Arabia, between

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Speaker 2: the Western world and Saudi Arabia. Yes, I think darkness

444
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Speaker 2: tried to do everything in order to destroy that. But

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Speaker 2: we know at the end of the day, from the

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Speaker 2: stories and the scriptures of Bilam and Balak, those who

447
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Speaker 2: tried to curse end up blessing. We know from the

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Speaker 2: story of perm that just took place, that wicked Hayman

449
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Speaker 2: tried to kill all the Jews, but in the end

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Speaker 2: he ended up being hung on the same gallows that

451
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Speaker 2: he prepared for the innocent people. This War of October

452
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Speaker 2: seventh began because many people like you, believe that they

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Speaker 2: wanted to stop the Abraham Accords from growing, they wanted

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Speaker 2: to stop normalization. But we're seeing as the same historic

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Speaker 2: biblical story that we've seen time and time again, they

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Speaker 2: went out to curse and they ended up blessing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, your daughter is in the IDF right now. I

458
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Speaker 3: think a lot of Americans who have military members in

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Speaker 3: their families think about this battle in a different way

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Speaker 3: as a result, because they're directly connected to virtually everyone

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Speaker 3: in Israel with children has children in the IDF, grandchildren

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Speaker 3: in the IDF. I think a lot of Americans still

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Speaker 3: have not really understood that. So can you talk about

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Speaker 3: not only obviously you represent the IFCJ and you have

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Speaker 3: a lot of responsibility on that front, but you're also

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Speaker 3: a mom with a kid in the IDF, and so

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Speaker 3: are a lot of moms and dads and grandmas and grandpas.

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Speaker 3: How does that impact the way this battle and this

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Speaker 3: war hits in Israel and maybe a way that's different

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Speaker 3: than other places.

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Speaker 2: It's a great question because for each one of us

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Speaker 2: it's so personal. My nineteen year old daughter right now

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Speaker 2: is on the border of Gaza, protecting this land, making

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Speaker 2: sure that no terrorists can come in. When I dropped

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Speaker 2: her off at the army base after she had a

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Speaker 2: few days off, and she went so proud, and I said,

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Speaker 2: are you Are you scared? And she said, Mummy, of

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Speaker 2: course I'm scared. But I believe what I'm doing is meaningful.

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Speaker 2: I believe what I'm doing is not only for protecting

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Speaker 2: the people of Israel, but protecting the values that I

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Speaker 2: hold dear that are very strong in America and Europe

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Speaker 2: and everywhere else. If I'm not standing here, the darkness

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Speaker 2: will spread. And so for each one of us is

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Speaker 2: personal in the sense of I think my prayers are

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Speaker 2: full of maybe more tears. I think the hope for

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Speaker 2: peace is not just a saying, but it's in my heart.

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Speaker 2: It's that my children are on the front lines. I

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Speaker 2: know my son in a year is going to be

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Speaker 2: joining the army, and so it's very personal. But that

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Speaker 2: personal association with this war, that personal prayer that comes

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Speaker 2: between every single news headline, every single siren, and every

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Speaker 2: single piece of information that's coming out of this war.

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Speaker 2: It's holding two maybe you could say conflicting emotions, but

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Speaker 2: really they're the same. On one hand, I want this

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Speaker 2: war to be over. I want this to end, and

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Speaker 2: on the other hand, I know that this is a

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Speaker 2: war that is needed to protect my children and my grandchildren,

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Speaker 2: that it can't end until we have fulfilled our objectives.

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Speaker 2: And while we're in the middle of fighting this war,

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Speaker 2: what we can do every one of us. My daughter's

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Speaker 2: on the front lines, but you know what, I'm going

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Speaker 2: bomb sheltered, bomb sheltered, delivering food Holocaust survivors. My daughter

503
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Speaker 2: is on the frontline, but I'm going to schools and

504
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Speaker 2: placing bomb shelters on behalf of the fellowship. What I

505
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Speaker 2: see is that everyone can do their part to bring

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Speaker 2: more light. We can't just sit back and complain. We

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Speaker 2: can't just curse the darkness. We can't just be consumed

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Speaker 2: by self righteous anger. We have to go out and help.

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Speaker 3: Yell, I appreciate you coming on telling us what's going

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Speaker 3: on in Israel right now. Stay safe, keep your family

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Speaker 3: safe as well, and know that a lot of people

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Speaker 3: all over the United States are praying for you, guys,

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Speaker 3: and for everybody who is involved in fighting evil right now.

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Speaker 2: We feel it. Thank you so much, God bless you.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking more about all of the Iran

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Speaker 1: news today. We'll also get into the James Tallerico situation

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Speaker 1: in Texas. UH, and we'll talk to our friend Ryan

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Speaker 1: Gerdusky about them. Where some of that is President Trump

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Speaker 1: reportedly going to endorse in the Texas primary, which is

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Speaker 1: an interesting change of pace. So we shall we shall

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Speaker 1: get into some of that. Podcast listener David in Texas

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Speaker 1: wants to weigh in on the Iran situation. Play h

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Speaker 1: David in Texas. I have a thought to allies USA,

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Speaker 1: Israel and anyone else that wants to play along knows

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Speaker 1: where the rallies are happening against the regime in Iran air.

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Speaker 2: Drop weapons to the people.

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Speaker 1: We keep talking about how the biggest problem.

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Speaker 2: For the people is that they're unarmed.

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Speaker 1: Well, get them armed and they can overthrow their own government.

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Speaker 1: I wish it was that easy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well here's the challenge. It's one thing to say, hey,

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Speaker 3: they're going to overthrow the government. You could speak I mean,

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Speaker 3: I bet you did a bunch of deep dives on

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Speaker 3: how the government.

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Speaker 1: The government overthrows in my day can neither confirm nor deny.

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Speaker 3: So my point on it would be, look, we are

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Speaker 3: kicking Iran's ass because we have much better men and materiel,

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Speaker 3: and we are exposing the gap between what Iran Iran

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Speaker 3: claimed to be able to do and what they're actually

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Speaker 3: able to do. All that's very positive. The average poorly

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Speaker 3: armed Iranian military group dwarfs any kind of opposition armament

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Speaker 3: that could rise up against them. Right, And so this

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Speaker 3: idea that what you need to have happen, And you

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Speaker 3: tell me if I'm wrong or right on this based

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Speaker 3: on your actual expertise in this. You have to have

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Speaker 3: the military get behind someone new in order to have

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Speaker 3: any kind of successful attempt to overthrow the existing government. Right,

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Speaker 3: and unless the military is willing to line up behind

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Speaker 3: someone new, this idea that you're going to have oh

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Speaker 3: X number of people stored a facility, Like, as long

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Speaker 3: as the military is committed to the government in power,

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Speaker 3: there's almost no opportunity at all to ever have a

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Speaker 3: successful coup. Would that be a pretty succinct analysis of

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Speaker 3: where we are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is why you generally see either a general

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Speaker 1: or maybe the head of the security service in a

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Speaker 1: coup situation, which is what we're really dealing with here.

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Speaker 1: We can use that word. I mean we are Essentially,

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Speaker 1: we are trying to midwife a coup into existence. We

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Speaker 1: are trying to bring about a coup in Iran. That

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Speaker 1: is what this air campaign ultimately is, and I think

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Speaker 1: we should be honest about that. But you've got about

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Speaker 1: a half a million, half a million Iranian men, six

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand Iranian men under arms, plus you've got tens

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Speaker 1: of thousands of besiege. Those are the Iranian or the

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Speaker 1: Islamic Revolutions brown shirts. They go around and they're they're

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Speaker 1: the street thug. So they've got tens of thousands of them.

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Speaker 1: So this is comp It's very complicated too, because the

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Speaker 1: answer Clay is yes, you do need. By the way,

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Speaker 1: this is why in Afghanistan. Yeah, we use the Northern

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Speaker 1: Alliance to kick out the Taliban, but then do you

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Speaker 1: know who we had to work with Pashtun warlords, province

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Speaker 1: by province, guys who had guys on the payroll with guns,

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Speaker 1: and some of them were very bad ombres. But that

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Speaker 1: was that was what we had and it didn't end

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Speaker 1: up working out for us in the long term. But

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Speaker 1: there really wasn't another option, uh, and that included a

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Speaker 1: major you know, eventually included a major US occupation force

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Speaker 1: and it still didn't work. So you want to work

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Speaker 1: within the existing power structure to the greatest degree possible

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Speaker 1: while lopping off the head of the power structure. It's

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Speaker 1: not a not an easy thing to uh to pull

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Speaker 1: off here. I I wonder, like I said Venezuela, I

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Speaker 1: think it's a pretty straightforward pathway. And I think I

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Speaker 1: think veneze Whala is on a trajectory of things just

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Speaker 1: getting better and better. I really do iran fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 1: This thing could go either way. I'm just being honest.

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Speaker 1: This thing could go either way. So we will continue

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Speaker 1: to monitor this.

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Speaker 3: And in terms of the political ramifications, what I told

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Speaker 3: you yesterday is I think where this is going to go.

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Speaker 3: Democrats are not able to oppose the taking out of

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Speaker 3: Kameni because they recognize that he was a terrorist. In

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Speaker 3: America is safer without him gone. But what they're going

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Speaker 3: to do is they're going to say, hey, gas prices

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Speaker 3: are going up. The number one issue in the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty six midterm is going to be the economy and

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Speaker 3: in particular affordability. And if they are able to argue

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Speaker 3: that Trump has gotten dragged into a cesspool a morass,

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Speaker 3: a quagmire in the Iranian marketplace. In that battle, then

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Speaker 3: it's going to cost all of us more money to

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Speaker 3: fill up our guest nanks, and that is going to

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Speaker 3: be a Democrat talking point in twenty twenty six. So

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Speaker 3: I think Trump wants this thing resolved. If I were betting,

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Speaker 3: I think Trump wants this thing resolved by May. So

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Speaker 3: that gives him about two months to really kind of

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Speaker 3: go to town here. And Iran knows that, and so

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Speaker 3: you've got a different calendar of sorts in the way

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Speaker 3: that Iran is thinking and the way that United States

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Speaker 3: is thinking. And then you toss in the wild card

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Speaker 3: of Israel and we will see. But I do think

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Speaker 3: you're right. Venezuela is on track to be an incredible

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Speaker 3: success story in our backyard. Effectively. We'll break down that

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Speaker 3: and more what's going on in the Senate in Texas.

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Speaker 3: That's next