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Speaker 1: Hey Colts fans, I'm JJ Stankowitz and welcome into another

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Speaker 1: episode of The Colts Show in Indianapolis. Colts Podcast we

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Speaker 1: are presented by our friends at Microsoft Surface co Pilot

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Speaker 1: plus PC. Good episode coming up today, got Mola Cox

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Speaker 1: about his career, his growth as a run blocker, his

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Speaker 1: role on this Colts team. But look, we got to

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Speaker 1: start with the Colts loss on Sunday to the Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs. The Colts had a twenty to nine lead

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Speaker 1: going into the fourth quarter. They squander that the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: wind up winning in overtime. A lot of different places

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Speaker 1: to go, a lot of different thoughts I had driving

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Speaker 1: back from the airport on Sunday night about how the

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Speaker 1: Colts lost that game. The first ones that kind of

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Speaker 1: hit my mind were, I didn't feel as bad about

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Speaker 1: the play calling, about Shaneesticken's play calling as I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of folks maybe did. In the moment, I

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Speaker 1: understand it. I mean, when you lose a game in

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Speaker 1: the way the Colts did, your thoughts immediately turned to well,

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Speaker 1: what could they have done better? And I totally understand why.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you're watching this. You're listening to this,

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Speaker 1: you may very well have thought, we'll just give the

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Speaker 1: ball to Jonathan Taylor because he's the best running back

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, and you've got an eleven point lead.

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Speaker 1: You want to turn some clock in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: When I went back and I watched it on Monday,

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Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily feel like the Colts needed to give

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Speaker 1: some situations. You know, we'll hear from Shane stick and

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Speaker 1: later with taping this Monday morning, we'll hear from him later.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he'll feel like there are some situations there. But

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Speaker 1: those Chiefs linebackers did a really good job in this

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Speaker 1: game dropping Taylor in the backfield. They were firing through.

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Speaker 1: Duke Trankle played awesome in this game. Nick Bolton at

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Speaker 1: a really good game. Leo Schanall was really good. Those

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Speaker 1: guys were consistently getting into the backfield, and while Taylor

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Speaker 1: can occasionally make one miss, it's hard to make two

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Speaker 1: and he was dropped for a loss on three of

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Speaker 1: those plays, and the first one. One of those, by

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Speaker 1: after the frank Zire Franklin force that fumble, Mooneyward recovers

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Speaker 1: it on the six yard line, they handed off to Taylor.

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Speaker 1: They immediately lose two yards and then Spags just heats

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Speaker 1: up Daniel Jones on back to back plays the Colts

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Speaker 1: up to punt. The next drive the Colts had, they

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Speaker 1: then that last drive the Colts had Daniel Jones drop

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Speaker 1: you know, just to it wasn't necessarily to me like, well,

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Speaker 1: they would have won the game because Kansas City was

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Speaker 1: doing a very good job defending the run of this game.

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Speaker 1: Kind of like I was just thinking about, so maybe

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Speaker 1: there's a chance there. I don't know. Again, interested to

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Speaker 1: down to execution. And that's what I heard from players

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Speaker 1: in the locker room after the game was the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: have like Hall of Fame level players on their team,

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Speaker 1: obviously Mahomes and Kelsey. Chris Jones, you know, might get

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Speaker 1: himself a bust in Canton one of these days. Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid's a Hall of Fame coach from IMNDY. Andy Reid

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Speaker 1: might be the best coach in NFL history, Steve Spagnolo

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Speaker 1: The Colts have not made the playoffs since twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: you had one team that's still kind of learning how

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Speaker 1: just again, tiny little margin there. They hit that fourth

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Speaker 1: he did that other than he's one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: Just those tiny margins and you know, talking to Trevari's

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Speaker 1: should say those came back to bite the Colts again.

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Speaker 1: It's those tiny little margins. You know, you get the

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Speaker 1: see from this Colts team going forward is like, what

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Speaker 1: did they learn? What did they learn from this game?

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Speaker 1: Did you know? Are there things that Shane Stikeen's going

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Speaker 1: we learn from that game? Well, the Colts went out

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Speaker 1: the Falcons the next week the Rams game. What did

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Speaker 1: So the Colts have not lost two in a row

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Speaker 1: not falling. The Indianapolis Colts are still a very good

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Speaker 1: the Colts, we control our own destiny. The Texans are

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Speaker 1: in the New York Times playoff simulator. So right now,

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Speaker 1: with six games to go, the Colts have an eighty

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Speaker 1: two percent chance to make the playoffs. That's really high

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Speaker 1: the Texans is a massive swing game, Like we're talking

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Speaker 1: their playoff odds will go to ninety eight percent. If

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Speaker 1: playoffs are still good. Their underlying numbers are still good.

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Speaker 1: They lost to the Chiefs on the road by three.

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Speaker 1: It is a disappointing loss, a game everyone in that

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Speaker 1: sure everyone watching and listening to this is still like,

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Speaker 1: how do the Colts lose that game? This is a

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Speaker 1: How you doing, man, I'm doing good. Thanks for having

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Speaker 1: me so you're doing the podcast double here, the Colts podcast.

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Speaker 1: All, that's all Jack, right there, Media Star Jack Doyle.

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Speaker 2: Shoot, it really was until uh it was a what

433
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,160
Speaker 2: year did we have Trey and Jack twenty twenty twenty? Yeah,

434
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 2: twenty twenty cause Jack was a little banged up, Trey

435
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,879
Speaker 2: got hurt. There were a couple of games I had

436
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 2: to start, and I got more and more rese I remember,

437
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 2: I think Minnesota was my first start, and then I

438
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,720
Speaker 2: came to the Sign I was like, dang, I don't

439
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,439
Speaker 2: know how Jack does this every game, playing a million plays,

440
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,160
Speaker 2: and but like that year really helped my experience cause

441
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 2: I was playing a lot more offensive plays and things

442
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,239
Speaker 2: like getting the block a lot more cause they they

443
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 2: were banged up. So that's when I really like realized it.

444
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 2: And I also met like some of the person I

445
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 2: got something like that you could be a real good

446
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 2: why in this league and things like that. But like

447
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 2: you know, come from basketball, I wasn't really understanding. I'm

448
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,399
Speaker 2: just like doing it. But then actually actually when you

449
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,119
Speaker 2: got that full understanding of what a true why I

450
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 2: can do and different things like that, I think my

451
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 2: confidence took off to another level.

452
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,239
Speaker 1: I used to cover the Bears, So I remember that

453
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,919
Speaker 1: touchdown you had only touchdown of that game that the

454
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 1: Bears that Yeah, no fans dead, silent, Philip Rivers talking

455
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 1: smack to Roquwan Smith across the line of scrimmage. Something

456
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 1: that Ryan Kelly once told me about like tight end

457
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 1: blocking is he's like, as an offensive lineman, all we

458
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 1: want is for our tight ends to like die a

459
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 1: slow death was the line that he used. Yeah, and

460
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 1: it was in reference to I think it was like

461
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 1: a block that drew through on Jeffrey Simmons in a

462
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 1: game in like twenty twenty three where it's like when

463
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 1: you're blocking a guy like that, it's just like, hey,

464
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: just just do enough to make sure the running back

465
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 1: can get through. What have you learned about like what

466
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: offensive linemen maybe appreciate about your game and about like

467
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 1: run blocking is a tight end.

468
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like they see in a meeting room,

469
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 2: coach goes back on the film and like they'll show

470
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 2: one of our good blocks. Q will be one of

471
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 2: the first person like yeah, mo, yeah, a tree or

472
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 2: something like that. So they definitely do a good job

473
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 2: of hyping us up when we do get our blocks.

474
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 2: And and just in general, you just want to get

475
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 2: your block, so you don't wanna be that weak clink

476
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 2: on the line of that guy who they're pointing gup

477
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 2: isn't getting their block. So even though like some of

478
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 2: the young guys or something like, even if you don't

479
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 2: completely dominate the block, just win it for two three seconds,

480
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 2: that's enough time for the running back to get through.

481
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 2: And it's not always gonna be pretty with us, cause

482
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't just solely focus on blocking and

483
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 2: practice and different things like the linement. They only focus

484
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 2: on blocking past block, run, but we have to go

485
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 2: run routes and do a bunch of other things. So

486
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 2: just like it's longer, our culture says it, it doesn't

487
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 2: have to be pretty, but just get the job done,

488
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 2: and we just try to echo that. And sometimes it's

489
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 2: just dominant. Sometimes it might not be. But if JT

490
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 2: gets a positive play, hey, it's a positive play.

491
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: How has JT's ability to break off those explosive runs, Like,

492
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: how is that maybe forced you to really finish through

493
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 1: plays knowing that he can take anything to the house

494
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: in any moments.

495
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 2: Definitely, especially on on the front side, you always wanna

496
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 2: finish the play, different things like that. But when you're

497
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: on the backside, like we always harp on how important

498
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 2: it is to finish your block, make sure you cut

499
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: off your guy, and different things like that. And we

500
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: saw that on what play was it the eighty three?

501
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 2: You saw Ap on the backside cut his guy all

502
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: the way off, And we always talk about the backside

503
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 2: is really what makes runs go because a bunch of

504
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 2: guys take the backside off because they're not really involved

505
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: in a player and their guy might come in and make

506
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 2: the tackle. So a good thing we do in Our

507
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 2: offense in general is just focusing on finishing our backside blocks,

508
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 2: because with a running back like JT, he's liable to

509
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 2: break at any point.

510
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: The Cardinals game, the last run JT had, you had

511
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 1: a backside block on the safety on that play. Yeah,

512
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: and JT winds up. I think he got tackled. He

513
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 1: got the first down end of the game. But like

514
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: if that was in a situation where JT broke through there,

515
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: wah yeah, but I mean you still got the block

516
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: on him, and you like you just see I mean,

517
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: you're like fifteen twenty yards down field there. I mean

518
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: that that's gotta be a really like cool thing, knowing

519
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 1: that you've got a guy in JT that can at

520
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: any moment score from anyway.

521
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,719
Speaker 2: Sure. I mean the way JT runs, and it's like

522
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 2: it goes to the type of person he is, also,

523
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 2: like you want to block for me? Such a good guy,

524
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: so nice to everybody. Ultimate teammate is like, bro, I'm

525
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 2: gonna go extra hard so he could kill whoever he's

526
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: out there on the field.

527
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: I know you've you've only been here, but I've heard

528
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 1: from some other players. You know, sometimes when you get

529
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: the superstar there's almost like a little bubble around him.

530
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes JT, it doesn't seem like there's a bubble around him.

531
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: He's one of the bubble at all around JT. JT

532
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: is definitely one of the guys, super outgoing, talks to everyone,

533
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: and all our lockers are right by each other, so

534
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 2: we all talk to each other all the time. And yeah,

535
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 2: he's real down to earth, like if we do stuff

536
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 2: outside the building, he comes and hangs out with us

537
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 2: and different things like that. So yeah, definitely not a

538
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: diva at all.

539
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: Do you have a like a sense though, of like

540
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: how special this season is that JT is putting together?

541
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely. I was here when he almost one

542
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: offense player to year the other year and I was

543
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 2: telling dude, I was like, cause some dudes the last

544
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 2: couple of years, JT's been kind of banged up. He

545
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 2: had the holdout then he was heard had his thumb

546
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 2: ankle and different things of that, and they were like, dang,

547
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: he's killed. I was like, man, this is just like

548
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 2: seems like twenty twenty all over again. But he's getting

549
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 2: way more touchdowns, like he's already a seventeen And I'm

550
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 2: just like, man, I've seen this before, so it's like,

551
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: I'm not it doesn't really surprise me. I've seen what

552
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,959
Speaker 2: type of caliber player he can be when he's fully healthy,

553
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 2: and right now he's fully healthy and he's just making

554
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: things go and as offense, we're just trying to open

555
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: those gaps as much as possible for him so he

556
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 2: could just do his thing and if it's not there,

557
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: you know, JT. He makes things happen regardless.

558
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: I know something that Shane has been really intentional about

559
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: is like giving everyone on this offense a role and like, hey,

560
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: this is what your role is, go execute it to

561
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,719
Speaker 1: the best of your ability. When you've got eleven guys

562
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: on the field and you know several others on the

563
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: sideline who can come in at any moment, who are

564
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: who understand their role and are fulfilling it to the

565
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: best of their ability, is that why? Maybe is that

566
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: like a starting point for why this offense has been

567
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: so good?

568
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say so, because every year when we

569
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 2: start the season, we go through a roles meeting. The

570
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 2: whole team's in there, the coaches are in there, and

571
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 2: he lists off everyone's role, group by group, position by position,

572
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: so he literally lets everyone know what your role is

573
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: for the season, and I mean you got to accept it.

574
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: I mean if you don't want to accept it, I

575
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: mean somebody if somebody else is gonna want to accept it.

576
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: So that's I think that's why guys have no ego,

577
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: because we already know what's expected of us, what they

578
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 2: want us to do with different things like that, and

579
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 2: I think that helps us mesh a little bit better.

580
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 2: And as things go on, like the coaches like, they're

581
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 2: probably not too stretched because they know we understand what

582
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: our role is and we're gonna go out there and

583
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: attack that role.

584
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: For this team. Then the role that you're in, whether

585
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: you want to share it or not, to be able

586
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: to go out and fulfill it. And you know, looking

587
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: at the tape doesn't lie you're playing really good football

588
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: this year, whether it's as a blocker or you know,

589
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: catching passes or even as a pass protector on some

590
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: of these plays. To kind of go back to, you know,

591
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: we were talking about the team and how like fulfilling

592
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,719
Speaker 1: must be for you to, you know, to see the

593
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: success of this team after being here for so long,

594
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: for you personally to be able to be a part

595
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: of this success. What does it mean to you. Definitely,

596
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: it feels great. Well, he said, My roles primarily be

597
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: the blocker. Yeah, so, I mean, you know, I'm on

598
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: a bunch of those blocking plays, point of attack and

599
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: things like that. But in the past game also a

600
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: lot of pass bro and things like that. Body else

601
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: says when the ball comes outway and make the play

602
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: and different things like that. And I think done a

603
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: great job in the run game. I mean shoot or

604
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: number one and rushing the numbers don't lie, don't lie.

605
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 2: But for me, I just take it, like I said earlier,

606
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: week by week. I if any a lot of people

607
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 2: who know me know I don't get too high or

608
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 2: too low, so like it's kind of rare when I

609
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: show tons of emotion and things like that. But it's

610
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 2: not that I'm not excited. I've just I just I

611
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 2: just like to keep it going.

612
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: Does the team need to mix of guys who are like.

613
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely. I mean we got the guys who

614
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: are the rah Ra super up hype and things like that,

615
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: So you definitely need a mix of guys like that

616
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: and even kill because I think it gives it a

617
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: good balance and things like that.

618
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: What is something about Daniel Jones that you think might

619
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: surprise some people who maybe don't know him, who maybe

620
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: aren't around him as much as you are. I really

621
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: so let me give you an example. The thing that

622
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: when I asked Alec this question, he was like, he

623
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: will always grabble across stick and try to like shoot

624
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: a l across ball.

625
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: A lacrosseic. I haven't seen the lacrosse anywhere, but they

626
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 2: hang out a lot, so AP will know. I would say,

627
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: let me see, Well, I think everyone knows about his

628
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: work ethic. Hm.

629
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: Maybe within that work ethic though, like.

630
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: Oh, like the Jones even in here on Tuesday in

631
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: the weight room. Yeah, he's always in the weight room

632
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: pre practice, post practice. Every time I go in the

633
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: weight room, he's in there. Every Tuesday, I coming, I

634
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: get my cardio in, He's in there getting work done

635
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: every day. So I would say, just how that his

636
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: dedication is like second to none. I would say, because

637
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: no matter, because I go in there a lot, and

638
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: he's always in there doing something to make sure he's

639
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: at his best for Sunday and available for the team.

640
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: So I would say definitely, that's one thing a lot

641
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: of people might not know about him.

642
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: That's interesting because Yeah. When when we hear about his

643
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: work ethic, it's like I picture him just constantly in

644
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: the meeting room dissecting film, you know, a team dinners

645
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: watching film on his his phone, you know. But yeah,

646
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: the weight room. That's interesting with the weight room, yeah,

647
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: because I mean, you got to be able to sustain.

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Speaker 2: The long season. The quarterback. I mean some games you

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Speaker 2: get hit a lot more than others. Injo he's good

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Speaker 2: with his legs, so he's scrambling a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think graveye first had a bloody picture after that

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Speaker 2: ran a game, but like he's as tough as they come.

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Speaker 1: Were you in that huddle?

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Speaker 2: I was not in. I think that was a two

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Speaker 2: like a two minute Yeah, yeah, because I'm come. We

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Speaker 2: were running on a field for field goal, trying to

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Speaker 2: death shake his hand, and all I see is a trap,

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Speaker 2: blood and bloody mouth. Like the heck is going on.

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Speaker 1: I mean when you when you see something like that,

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Speaker 1: you see that picture going around or you just you

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Speaker 1: kind of see that like competitive drive in that in him.

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Speaker 1: For that to be coming from your starting quarterback, what

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Speaker 1: does that make me do for the rest of this I.

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Speaker 2: Mean it just ign that's a fire on everybody, because

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Speaker 2: that's somebody you want to go to war for. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that happened, He's sprinted back out there, next play, ran

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Speaker 2: the next play like then called for a sub or

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Speaker 2: anything like that. Just and I think that's the kind

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Speaker 2: of fight that everybody in the team wants to see

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Speaker 2: from your quarterback. And that's a guy that everybody's gonna follow.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious, like, because you played with Phil, how they're

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Speaker 1: obviously not completely similar. They're two different people, different quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: but like in terms of like get you guys in

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Speaker 1: the right play, how similar is he to Phil?

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Speaker 2: Very similar? For sure. Philip was always making checks at

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Speaker 2: the line. Daniel's always doing it. He's always getting us

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Speaker 2: in the right look all the time, and different things

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Speaker 2: like that. They differ in the way they talk because

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Speaker 2: Phil is a big trash soccer, but as far as

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Speaker 2: the x's and nose and things like that, they're they're

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Speaker 2: extremely similar.

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Speaker 1: What's your favorite Philip Rivers trash talking moment?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, there's a couple, but.

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Speaker 1: I mean mine is that one.

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Speaker 2: We're that's your That's Chicago one. It's probably my favorite,

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Speaker 2: just because JT did turn the corner on it. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Philip Philip Philip, Philip and d Leonard used to go

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Speaker 2: at it a lot in practice. I don't remember all

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Speaker 2: the words being said, but definitely their banter.

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Speaker 1: It was also good couple dad guments in there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure, does Shane sound like Philip all sometimes?

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Speaker 2: See? I didn't think so at first, but then the

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Speaker 2: micd up spot. Yeah, when I see the mic ups,

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Speaker 2: it reminds me of Philip for sure.

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Speaker 1: For for you, I want to get you out here

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Speaker 1: on this, like when you you've been in the league

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Speaker 1: now for seven eight years, you know, seven years on

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Speaker 1: the fifty three eight years since joining the Colts, you're

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Speaker 1: thirty two tight ends who are of your skill set

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Speaker 1: can play until they're I mean, look at Mercedes Lewis. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 1: do you ever think about, like I could I could

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Speaker 1: keep doing this for a really long time or do

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Speaker 1: you have to just kind of stay so in the

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Speaker 1: moment and not ever think about maybe the big picture

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Speaker 1: of your career.

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Speaker 2: You know, coaches and people always tell me I could

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Speaker 2: play for so like twelve plus fifteen years. Me, I

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Speaker 2: just try to take it year by year, just because

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Speaker 2: you know the way this league goes, anything's possible. Injuries,

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Speaker 2: differently things like that, So I just try to focus

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Speaker 2: in a moment. Of course, it's in the back of

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Speaker 2: your mind when you hear it and things like that

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Speaker 2: you think about it. But I just like, I'm literally

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Speaker 2: a day by day guy, season by season guy, and

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Speaker 2: just try to be the best I can in the

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Speaker 2: possible moment and then let the rest take care of itself.

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Speaker 1: So I was learning from Jack kind of the best

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Speaker 1: lesson of all that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, I would say so. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Jack Doyle, host of the Jack Doyle Podcast. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: media guy. All right, Mahley Cox, appreciate you joining me

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Speaker 1: here on the podcast. Man, this is a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: All right back here on the Colt Show. Thanks to

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Speaker 1: tight End mo Ali Cox for joining me here on

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Speaker 1: day is game Day. I had a question for the

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Speaker 1: mailbag kind of in the hopper, but it's sort of

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Speaker 1: got blown up by the what happened on Sunday, so

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Speaker 1: it didn't. It doesn't carry a ton of relevance anymore.

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Speaker 1: So no mail bag this week. Still get your questions

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Speaker 1: in at colts dot com slash mailbag. You can send

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Speaker 1: you can drop them in the comments of this episode

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Speaker 1: as well. I am going to do a mail bag

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Speaker 1: on colts dot Com this week. That's gonna come out

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Speaker 1: on Friday with your questions after Thanksgiving. So get those in.

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Speaker 1: Try to bring a mail bag back here on the

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Speaker 1: podcast next week. We'll see what we're talking about next week.

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Speaker 1: I think the Colts have a really good chance to

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Speaker 1: come back home, take care of business. Colts haven't played

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Speaker 1: at home in over a month. Can't wait to get

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Speaker 1: back in front of the crowd at Lucas Oil Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Get on the mic, Get get these fans who I

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Speaker 1: give Kansas City credit. They've got really good fans, Colts

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Speaker 1: fans are are awesome, like the advantage we have at

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Speaker 1: Lucas Oil Stadium because the way that you guys take

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Speaker 1: care of business with making noise and knowing when to

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Speaker 1: make noise and how to make noise, it's legit going

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Speaker 1: around the league. It is legitimate. How good of an

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Speaker 1: atmosphere we have at Lucas Oil Stadium. So bring that

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Speaker 1: energy on Sunday. If you're going to the game, you know,

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Speaker 1: work off, work off those Thanksgiving calories by screaming at

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Speaker 1: the top of your lungs a little bit. You know

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be It's gonna be a fun one.

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Speaker 2: We got.

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Speaker 1: We got to show show CJ Strada how strong of

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Speaker 1: a crowd we are. Right, Let's let's bring it on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait again, you know, get me how the

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Speaker 1: mic for this game hit a couple of big third

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Speaker 1: downs and hopefully a week from today on the pod,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about a big Colts win over the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: That'll bump those playoff odds right back up over ninety percent.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for this episode of The Colt Show,

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