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Speaker 1: Ron An Anian and I realize I'm off on a tear,

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: The thing that really amazes me is all the car

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Speaker 1: manufacturers talk about extending the oil change interval, and then

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Speaker 1: the car Doctor. It amazes me how they think that

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Speaker 1: people that buy new cars are morons. You buy a

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Speaker 1: new vehicle, it's got fifteen thousand miles on it, You're

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Speaker 1: following the manufacturer recommended maintenance schedule, and then they try

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Speaker 1: selling you something you don't need because it's dirty. Well,

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Speaker 1: in my mind, if you follow the manufacturer recommended schedule

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Speaker 1: and it's dirty, isn't that their problem?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of ron An Aian, the

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Speaker 3: Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car

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Speaker 3: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on

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Speaker 3: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal,

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Speaker 3: pick up the phone and call in. The garage doors.

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Speaker 1: Are open, but I am here to take your calls

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Speaker 1: at eight five, five hundred and now.

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Speaker 1: Did you hear the one about Behinda No? Start story.

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Speaker 1: Of course you didn't. I haven't told it to you yet. Hello,

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Speaker 1: and welcome Ron and Aenei and the car Doctor here

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Speaker 1: at eight five five five six, so ninety nine hundred,

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Speaker 1: here to take your calls and answer your questions. Whatever

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Speaker 1: If you're out there driving on a road in an automobile,

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Speaker 1: even two wheels, we could get into those questions once

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Speaker 1: a while, a car wanders into the shop that really

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Speaker 1: defies a great deal of the effort, and everyone makes

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Speaker 1: that effort and a lot of repair shops across this

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Speaker 1: fights you every step of the way. And because of that, boy,

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Speaker 1: the steps seems to repair it get longer and they

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Speaker 1: this past week, we were really rolling along into a

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Speaker 1: risonably reasonably busy week. It was a full shop.

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Speaker 2: It was a good mix.

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Speaker 1: It was, you know, as we like to think. We

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Speaker 1: smiling and happy and like gold yay. Then this nineteen

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Speaker 1: You're there to continue to fix cars and make people

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Speaker 1: that the vehicle had to be jump started like a

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Speaker 1: dead battery, Cathy said, but it wasn't. I went out

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Speaker 1: Can you duplicate the problem? In this case? No. The

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Speaker 1: for currents current amp was fine.

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Speaker 1: The week sort of went well, let's just say things

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Speaker 1: Come on, everybody out there, as a regular listener knows,

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Speaker 1: it's we're gonna look for. We're gonna look for spark,

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Speaker 1: I call it, gave it a little and relay clicked.

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Speaker 1: You've got to keep your head about you and diagnose

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Speaker 1: Took the old relay, which I knew would at least

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back Ron Ending and the card Doctor. Glad

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Speaker 1: Terry from Springfield, Vermont and talk about his two thousand

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Speaker 1: and six Chevy pick him up truck. Terry, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. How can I help you, sir? Terry?

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Speaker 2: Are you there?

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir?

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Speaker 1: Hey, sir, hey, there you go. So a little bit

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Speaker 2: So good.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good man, I'm rocking and rolling. I'm ready

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Speaker 1: to answer some car questions today. So what's going on?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 2: What can I do for you?

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Speaker 4: There we go, my twenty five h I'm having a

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Speaker 4: problem with my mission key. I put the key in,

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Speaker 4: I go from uh to start to you know, it

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Speaker 4: doesn't it does not unlock.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well when you say it, well, when you say

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Speaker 1: it doesn't unlock, Terry?

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Speaker 2: What you you you You put the.

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Speaker 1: Key in and the lock tumbler doesn't turn correct?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Is the steering wheel cocked at an odd angle so

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Speaker 1: you could kind of you could wiggle and jiggle the

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Speaker 4: I can read it on the steering wheel, and I

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Speaker 4: rad it on and jiggle the key, pull it out,

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Speaker 4: turn around, turn over, put a back in to the

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Speaker 4: same thing, and it will not unlock until I play

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Speaker 4: and play and play and play with it, and then

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Speaker 4: it finally comes unlocked.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: And it doesn't do this all the time. It's very intermittent.

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Speaker 1: How many miles are on the truck?

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Speaker 2: All right? What does the key? What does the key

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Speaker 4: It happens that the key side?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Are they both Are they both good clear cut keys?

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Speaker 1: And you know in the sense you're a good good

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Speaker 4: That's a great area because one of one of my

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Are they.

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Speaker 1: Are? They both original keys that came with the truck. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's got good definition to it sort of eliminates the

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Speaker 1: keys as a probable possible cause. Okay. You know we're

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Speaker 1: either dealing with something in the lock column itself is

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Speaker 1: the tumblers line up, you know you're done. It goes so,

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Speaker 1: if the lock cylinder, if I could turn the truck

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Speaker 1: the liquid graph fight. But I don't spray it in

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Speaker 1: the lock cylinder. I very gently put a couple of

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Speaker 1: cylinder itself is just jamming up and there's not much

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Speaker 1: more you can do with it. So have you say

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Speaker 4: I have seen a lot of this because there's my

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Speaker 1: You know where I see it a lot. I see

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Speaker 4: I'm to soil of these maintenance. I drive it nine

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and well, And the reason I say constructions crews,

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Speaker 1: you know, the short trip guys, they get in, they

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Speaker 1: get out, they turn it off. They you know, they

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Speaker 1: not maybe you're not doing that, but you still amassed

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Speaker 1: B it's going to be replaced the lock cylinder. Just

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Speaker 1: for the doors, say that again? Yeah right, and you

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Speaker 1: it'll cost you an extra fifty dollars. Guess what, life's

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Speaker 1: too short. At least you have something you'll like, all right, Terry?

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Speaker 4: Okay, Ron, thank you very much for answer the question.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Terry, I appreciate it. I'm glad to be

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Speaker 1: of our many affiliates. Hey, quick piece of email. Ron

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Speaker 1: love the show No more order repair shows in Boston.

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Speaker 1: So I happen to find your show on tuneing. Well, listen,

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Speaker 1: As the car Doctor pushes everybody else out my question

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Speaker 1: two thousand and three, Chevy Trailblazer just hit eighty thousand miles.

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Speaker 1: I've had it since New Lately. When I come to

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Speaker 1: a stop, my front breaks, grunt. I hear it. I

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Speaker 1: I've had both rotors pads replace break fluid flus. It

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Speaker 1: I think it might be speed sensors or question mark

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Speaker 1: Farber Cancer Institute, Brookline IV and Boston mess Edward, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what. What it sounds like you've got is

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Speaker 1: you've got a false ABS event going on. ABS. The

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Speaker 1: rust build up around the sensor and the tone ring

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