1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:01,560 Speaker 1: Hey, what's up everybody. 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 2: This is Joe Thomas, your Hall of Fame left tackle 3 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: from the Cleveland Browns, and this is the Dog's Only Podcast. 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Today. 5 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be talking to Wyatt Teller and Joel Buttonio, 6 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: the world's favorite offensive guards in all Pro football. The 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: cool Well, let's just keep talking about it as on 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: as we're rolling. We're good because that's what all fat 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: guys want to talk about. 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: We were excited for it all day. 11 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Yeah really look Yeah. 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: So one of my favorite things when I was playing 13 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: on the Old line was the amazing. 14 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: Dinners that we've come together and have. And when I 15 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: was a rookie, it was like every week. 16 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: But then as you get old and you have kids 17 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 2: and stuff, it's not as frequent because mama wants you 18 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: home to help with the kiddos. But one of the 19 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: cool things about coming out here for going practices for 20 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: you guys is you get a chance to get together. 21 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 2: You get a little bit more free time maybe than 22 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: you do when you were in Borea for training camp. 23 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: So you guys had a good Old Line dinner last night. 24 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: What were the highlights. 25 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we went to del for Goes Double Eagle, which 26 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: it kind of gave me morble room boties if you like, 27 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: we're in a vault down there. They took care of us, 28 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: you know. A seal steakhouse. They had a lot of 29 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: good things on the menu, but they had these Philly 30 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: cheese steak dumplings that were for not all I was 31 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: dreaming about. I looked at the menu and I was like, 32 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, fat guy thing like just like two days out, 33 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the menu, what I'm gonna order for 34 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: dinner in two days you know, Like I saw those, 35 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, we need to order. I think those were great. 36 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: And a buttercake at them the night A butter Yeah, 37 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: I love going for those buttercakes. Like at the end 38 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: of a nice steakhouse. 39 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: Dinner, you don't want it, you don't need it, You're 40 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: you're already in a lot of pain, with a lot 41 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: of indigestion, but you can't say no. 42 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: It is something so tasty. 43 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, there were some some really good steaks there, Joey. 44 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: It was. It was a good time and was a 45 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: good time just hanging out with the with the boys, 46 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: and like you said, we get away for a little 47 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: bit so we all get to be together and it's. 48 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: Nice So as much as you guys like to eat 49 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: and you're good chefs, you're also good athletes. And I 50 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: don't think our guards on the Browns get enough credit 51 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: for the type of ath into our You were second 52 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: at the combine. I think among all offensive linemen with 53 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: the broad jump. You had a great combine showing off 54 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: your athleticism with the three cone drill, and you've been 55 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: doing that in your entire career. Joel, there's a little 56 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: birdie that told me you may have won a game 57 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 2: of knockout down here in Philadelphia when coach Stefanski took 58 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: you guys all over the University of Penn. 59 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: I think this week, we're still. 60 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: Down here at Philly right now during the joint practice 61 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: is getting ready for the game. So tell us a 62 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: little bit about what happened that allowed you to beat 63 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: the entire Browns team in a game of knockout. 64 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: Well, we were I was kind of shooting on the side, 65 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: like I didn't know how intense it was going to get, 66 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: so I was warming up a little bit, and then 67 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: I jumped in into the games and I was like, 68 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: all right, like my competitive juice is start rolling. My 69 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: flashbacks to high school, Like fifty pounds lighter, you know, 70 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more nimble. So I didn't win the 71 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: first two games. And then I was in it and 72 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: I started making some shots. You know, I think knockout 73 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: the key is how quick you can to hustle for 74 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: the rebound, huh. You know, so I was getting the 75 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: hustle rebound, lay up, put back. You know, Miles was 76 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: out there like wasting his energy trying to like pretend 77 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: dunk you know every time we Yeah, I was like, 78 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: I'm like touching the backboard, you know what I mean, 79 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: But get my giving my layups in And honestly, I 80 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: probably should have lost. I was, you know, I was 81 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: the first shooter with the last two guys, but he 82 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: just kept missing his shot. So I finally got the 83 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: ball back one time and it hit one of the 84 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: top of the top of the key. I was honestly, 85 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: I was just pumped. I put on for the big ones, 86 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: you know, like, oh, I'm stuff. But we had to 87 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: win in there, you know. So I had some flashbacks 88 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: to some high school basketball days there. 89 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: And you were a great high school basketball player. Fourteen 90 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: points and twelve rebounds, I believe was the average. 91 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: No big deal. I mean that's solid. Yeah level. Yeah, yeah, 92 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: I was a double double guy. We played in the 93 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 1: competitive competitive league. I you know, I we had better 94 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: players on our team. 95 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: I was. 96 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: I just tried to do my you know, rebound off 97 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: its rebound, some post moves, some kickouts, you know, repost 98 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: all that fun stuff. But I played basketball, travel basketball, 99 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: you know, from like fifth grade really through high school, 100 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: you know, so I loved it. And then I went 101 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: to Nationals I think when I was like twelve or thirteen, 102 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: and I realized like, I'm probably not gonna play back. Yeah. 103 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: I realized that I'm not seven feet tall run like 104 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: a Yeah. So I was like, I'll be about all dude. 105 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: In high schools, I really enjoyed playing basketball, but you know, 106 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: I knew football is probably my calling to keep playing sports. 107 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: What age did you realize that it was going to 108 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: be football not basketball. 109 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: I honestly think probably I probably still had a glimmer 110 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: of hope before I went to high school. But I 111 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: think once I got to high school, I was like, 112 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: all right, like I'm like a five eleven, you know, 113 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: Saturday on the freshman basketball team, So this is probably 114 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: not gonna go down unless I grow foot. Yeah. But 115 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: I was. I was good with it. I still had 116 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: fun and really, honestly, my high school BASKETBA team was 117 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: way better than my high school football team. Like when's loss? Why? 118 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: So it was always fun to you know, go from 119 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: like three and seven on the football field and company, 120 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: and so when he can go to the playoffs in basketball. 121 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: One of the things that we love to tease you 122 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: about when you were a youngster here and I was 123 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: one of the old men in the hill line room, 124 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: was the fact that you used to dominate Kawi Leonard 125 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: when you were in high school. That was the narrative 126 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: that the Browns media was pushing to everybody. So once 127 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: in for all, can you set the record straight what 128 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: happened when you and Demartin de Rosen and Kawhi Leonard 129 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: would face up on the hardwood floor. 130 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: So the Martin Rose was in our league. He played 131 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: for Compton High School. I went to Long Beach Wilson. 132 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: I don't think we beat him in. 133 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: My next career. 134 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: Would you locked him up? Right? No? I don't know 135 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: how this room we got started. Why do you know 136 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: this room we're gonna stared? There was an article that 137 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: went out that maybe embellished my status slashed the performance 138 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: against some of these players. You know, in my life, 139 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: I did score a couple of basket on Kawhi Leonard. 140 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: We lost the game. He was my last high school 141 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: game ever. We were playing in the playoffs. They had 142 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: the number one two in the state in California, which 143 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: is the pretty impressive. They had Tony Snell, Kawhi Leonard, 144 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: and a couple of D one guys. Both those guys 145 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: played in the NBA, so it was it was a 146 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: tough matchup. But he was in foul trouble all game, 147 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: and so he was following you. They were they were 148 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: playing hack a shack on jaw. Yeah, they were worried 149 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: about you taking the game over. He actually Gardner best player, 150 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: and then they switch him on to me after no. 151 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: And then I got the ball in the post a 152 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: couple times and I'm like, he's not really guard like 153 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,559 Speaker 1: I want to go at him, And so I scored 154 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: like two baskets and then they kind of moved them around. 155 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: But no, I mean there are some great compents. De 156 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: Martin Rosa probably have like six or seven dunks a 157 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: game in high school. Like I remember one time I 158 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: it was a pick and roll high picking roll and 159 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: they had a seven foot cent or two, so they 160 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: were really good. And I jumped out to like, you know, 161 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: heads of screen, and he just crossed over so aggressively 162 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't quite have the lateral 163 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: sweet to day one dribbled down the lane and just 164 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: like posterized our point guard. And I remember after the game, 165 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: my coach, Joe, you gotta cut that off, and I 166 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna try to, but I don't think 167 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: I have that at my back, Like that might not 168 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: be my you know ability, but no, there's some really 169 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: good clay columnists. Thompson was for the He was in 170 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: that area too. He ended up playing I think against 171 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: Kwai like the finals, So there are some really good 172 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: and talented basketball players out there. 173 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: Fourteen points a game, he had to have the green 174 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: light out to the three point line, right like where 175 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: where did your coach allow you to let the ball 176 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: rip from? 177 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: So my junior year, I was definitely more of like 178 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: a role player, like there was another big man that 179 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: we would rotate, so would just be like us, you know, 180 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: like I buy three or four minutes, get tired, go 181 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: to the bench, you know, come back game and play 182 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: and then my senior year, I was probably our number 183 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: two option on offense. We had a guy go to 184 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: East Europe and so he was a good basketball player. 185 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: And that year I probably, I would say I probably 186 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: made can't remember exactly, but five to ten three pointers, 187 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: like you know, the trailer three, like, yeah, I was 188 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: looking for it. Occasion that I hit one. My last 189 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: shot in my high school we were playing it, We're 190 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: down by like ten, I caught one like halfway to 191 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: like half court and I just like threw one up 192 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: and I made it. So we lost the game by 193 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: seven points or whatever plight that was. But my last 194 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: shot was a May three. There we go. So I 195 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: have a little bit of range. I showed it yesterday 196 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: and knockout. 197 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: You know. 198 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, shot, great shot man. I would say majority of 199 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: my points are like offensive rebounds, you know, quite post ups, 200 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: maybe up and under, you know, below the rim game. 201 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, the details of your last high school game and 202 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: shot are impressive. You could tell how important it was 203 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: to you, right, how many times he's told that story 204 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: about going against Kawhi Leonard and nailing at three is 205 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: his last time walking off the high school basketball hardwood. 206 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: I know all about your basketball prowess. It's very impressive. 207 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: But why we never played together. 208 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: So I'm curious what type of high school athlete you were. 209 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: Was it just football? Did you have a chance to 210 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: play some other sports? Did you have some other passions? 211 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I all grew up playing football entire life. 212 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: But my actual first sport was swimming. So my freshman year, yeah, surprising, 213 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: my first my freshman year, my schaar I tricked me 214 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: into getting out to the sweat of teams and I 215 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: should just do it, you know, I think I was 216 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: just gonna, you know, maybe do basketball or some like that, 217 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: which I ended up doing basketball later on in high school. 218 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: But baseball also was all. I always played baseball. I 219 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: want to be like, my brother wasn't half as good 220 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: as ten, but he always likes to say he wasn't 221 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 3: even an eight as good as me. And football, so 222 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 3: you know, it was I always grew up playing sports. 223 00:08:55,640 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: My mom was a physical education teacher, so jim coach 224 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: and she, uh, you can't say, right, she yeah, So 225 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: she always instilled that, but she as a teacher, she 226 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: also instilled like, you know, just you know, sports matter, 227 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: put your academics matter more. So she would always you know, 228 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 3: incentivize playing or you know, whenever, and she had to 229 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: pay for a sport or something like that. She like, yep, bees, 230 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 3: you need to make some lakes and so, you know, 231 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: school was always very important. But you know, growing up 232 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: at you know, I wrestled when I was younger, which 233 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 3: you know, I don't think I was very good at. 234 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: You know, I think, uh well, I wasn't bad at 235 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 3: but by I think I was in fourth grade. I 236 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 3: started wrestling sixth graders, you know that two years and 237 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: in wrestling is a lot. So I started started losing 238 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: a little bit, nothing like that, but I was always competitive. 239 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 3: You know, where I grew up, it was kind of 240 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 3: a small town. So you know, a little bit bigger 241 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 3: than my wife's town, but uh still a small town. 242 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: So you know, if you didn't play two sports of 243 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 3: free sports, you know, that was just different. You know, 244 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 3: in Long Beach, you know, it's probably a little different. 245 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: The talent pool was absolutely crazy, but in fuck your county, 246 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: there wasn't. There wasn't the same amount of talent. 247 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: Was your speedo, your favorite uniform. 248 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: You or war never wore speed jammers or the leggings 249 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 3: if you see, like swingers nowadays. Yeah, the body. Yeah, 250 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 3: well I never know. 251 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't that serious. I would actually like to see 252 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: a race here because Joe Thomas pretty good swimmer. 253 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: I've seen it. 254 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: I'm okay, I'm okay, and I'm curious how good you 255 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 2: were at swimming, because like everybody can sign up for the. 256 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: Swim team, but were you winning meats and stuff like that. 257 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I usually placed first or second and whatever 258 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: I swim in by the time that I s yeah, 259 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 3: by that time, I know, by the time that I 260 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,599 Speaker 3: uh finished our first meet, they put me in the 261 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: craziest things because you know, growing up swimming, not everybody 262 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: knows breast up. Now everyone knows backstro some people don't 263 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: trust it. So uh, you know, by the two hundred am, 264 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: I think I had regional times, first meet, regional times, 265 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: and almost everything I swam my gosh. Yeah, so I 266 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 3: the new gate some weight. 267 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: And then I gave a little bit late some more 268 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: buoyant help. 269 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just sunk later. But you know it was 270 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: by sophomore year. You know, I don't even think I 271 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 3: buy the baseball was about this art Okay, So I 272 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: you know, the regional times, I was like, this is yeah, 273 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 3: this is just a fun time. I'm not not taking 274 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 3: it too serious. I wanted to do the fifty meter freestyle, 275 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: and because I've been a sprind of my entire life 276 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 3: and they always put me in the long distance stuff, 277 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 3: not a long distance guy, even though I was doing 278 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 3: all of it, you know, I wanted to. I think 279 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: that I could have got a state time and uh 280 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: fifty three, but we had to you know, they kind 281 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 3: of have to give that to the kids that don't 282 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: know as much because kind of participate in. 283 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: Safety swimmin a half mile, yeah exactly, so I think 284 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: that it was a little bit of say, precaution. 285 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: But you know, I asked the swim coach if I 286 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 3: can move to fifteen meter free and they said no, 287 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 3: And I was like, all right, well I want to 288 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 3: go if I want to have state times, I'm not 289 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 3: going to states. I'm not going to regional. I'm not 290 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: going to districts. I just want to, you know, do it. 291 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: So they ended up not you know, baseball was the 292 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: next week and I ended up, you know, not finished season. 293 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 3: But I think we had the saying regional times and 294 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 3: I didn't even act upon but it was cool. And 295 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: then in baseball. You know, like I said, I always 296 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: did it. I want to be like my brother. And 297 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 3: then you know, it wasn't very good of it. You know. 298 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: I think I averaged like the three fifty bag average, 299 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: which isn't bad, but I mean, you're not going to 300 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 3: college on that. 301 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, three fifteen high schools like fifty yeah, examinated. 302 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was ended up. You know, it was 303 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: fun played it, played baseball my first two years, and 304 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: then our football coach was like, hey, it's it's time 305 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 3: to start folks to know football, so said sir. Yeah, 306 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: and I just you know, my senior year, I wanted 307 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: to be a three sport athlete just before because I 308 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: knew that I was gonna be playing football. I you know, 309 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: basketball and baseball would probably a past in my life. 310 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 3: So I went and played. I do remember my last 311 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 3: baseball game. In my last basketball game, basketball wasn't as 312 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: eventful as yours, but baseball, I had a walk off 313 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: double or I think it might have been a walk 314 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 3: off single that brought the guy from third Okay, So 315 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 3: we tied for districts for the first time since my 316 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: brother was at the same high school. So it was 317 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 3: eleven years old and mean, okay, it was. It was 318 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 3: a big deal. But again, you know, my brother would 319 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: have probably sent that over there. 320 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Did they have a parade for you in the 321 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: hometown where they took you on. 322 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 2: The fire engine from your district congratulation? 323 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: Last games that don't matter matter and so that Joel 324 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: game that you nailed, that game where. 325 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: Oh it wasn't it was so you could lose my 326 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: last of the double digits. Congratulations. Uh, that's awesome. So 327 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: you guys obviously had a broad background in sports growing up, 328 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: but football ended up being your love. Obviously, part of 329 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: it is because that's what you're really good at. That's 330 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: what God says, Hey you're gonna be three hundred pounds. 331 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: You're probably not gonna do a whole lot of other stuff. 332 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: But was there a. 333 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: Point in college that you realized like, hey, I might 334 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: be good enough at this to be able to go 335 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: home and play at the next level. 336 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 337 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: No, I mean for me, you know, I was always 338 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 3: I was highly recruited out of high school, so out 339 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 3: you know, blessing that and that degree. But when I 340 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: got to college, you know, they were like, you know, 341 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 3: you can play defensive long and you're gonna pay defensive line, 342 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 3: and about two months in I didn't play defensive line. 343 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 3: They knew what they were doing. Ah, you know, ended 344 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 3: up being the best thing for me. You know, I 345 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: have guys who you know, were much better athletes, who 346 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: you know, didn't really get that opportunity. One, you know, 347 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: I had injury in my best friend video Mahoda. He 348 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: was a great player, but he had knee injuries. And 349 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: you know, he was faster than me, smarter than me, 350 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: and stronger than me. And you know, by the time 351 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 3: that we left college, I was stankful that I moved 352 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 3: offensive line. I found that niche, you know, a little 353 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: moller off off the left side. I never played tackle 354 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: like you know Joel Joels an athlete, you know, and 355 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: I was stuck inside. But uh, you know it was 356 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: it was a blessing. And I'd probably say, like, you know, 357 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 3: after my sophomore maybe my retro sophomore year, I realized that, 358 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 3: you know, I was good at what I was doing, 359 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 3: but I still, you know, didn't really believe it. Just 360 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: you know, you don't really think about it in the 361 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 3: future of the future of the future. You're just so 362 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 3: focused on the moment day by day, So you know, 363 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 3: It wasn't until like my my junior year that I 364 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: really realized that, you know, I could play this at 365 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 3: the next level. And then my senior year I had 366 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: kind of a downturn and play picked it up towards 367 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: the end of the season. But you know, ended up 368 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: being drafted their day like you guys, You guys are 369 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 3: pretty good. But you know I had to wait any 370 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 3: all five years and I needed all three days and 371 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: it worked out. 372 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: So you started out on the defensive side of the 373 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: ball d MS. Yeah, I think that's the tails all 374 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: his time, right, and you recruit the big white yes, 375 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: two weeks in the campus like line. 376 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: We had offensive line coach Bob Wiley, and he always 377 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: said that the offensive line is the last bus stop 378 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: on the bus line because after that you're going to 379 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: be coaching, because there's no other positions that take less 380 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: athleticism and less talent than the offensive line. And typically 381 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: it starts out as tackle, and if you can't do that, 382 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: they move you to guard, and if you can't do that, 383 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: they move you to center, and from there they moved 384 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: you to coach and quality control. So Joel obviously. 385 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: Played tackle at Nevada or Nevada how you said, if 386 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: you're from I tend to correct people on the bat. 387 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: Why it says I say it right now? 388 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: He said, well, it's apple action, right, So if someone 389 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: said appellations. 390 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a running joke. So Joel, when 391 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: did you know that you were probably gonna move to 392 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: guard at the next level. It was tough when I 393 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: was going to the Senior Bowl, so I played I 394 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: played right. We had a weird offense, but I uh, 395 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: one year in college was like strong side week. 396 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: So I played right. 397 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: Man, Like you remember the right yes, yes, you know, 398 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: awesome job. But I played right. I played left, so 399 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: I had some experience everything. I went to the Senior 400 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: Bowl and they're like, hey, we'll get some reps at guard. 401 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: So at that point I was kind of like, all right, 402 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: they want that, and then like our tackles got hurt. 403 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: So I ended up playing left tackle the whole Senior Bowl, 404 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I did pretty good. You know, 405 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: we'll see how this turns out. And then you know, 406 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: I get drafted completely Browns and they happened to have 407 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: a left tackle that's already kind of played a lot 408 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: and a right tackle. You a good left hand, Yeah, 409 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: pretty good left tackle, and they're like, yeah, you're probably 410 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: gonna play guard for us, and I was like, I 411 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: can do that, you know that, And you know, I 412 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: gotta obviously between you and Mac. And that was kind 413 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: of the position that I got worked into. So I 414 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: didn't really know like that. There was a few teams 415 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: that might have given me a chance out at tackle, 416 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: but I think it worked out really well. I think 417 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: I fit, you know, the you know, six four or not, 418 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: the longest arms, you know, and something like that. So 419 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: I think I said, well a garden it it worked 420 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: out well for me. 421 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: It's obviously worked out well for both of you guys. 422 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 2: But Joel, you were a second round pick for the 423 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: Browns right at the top there. Why he took a 424 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: little bit longer route to get to the Browns. You're 425 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,239 Speaker 2: drafted by Buffalo, we said, fifth round, fifth round, and 426 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: then after starting some games your rookie year, you get 427 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: traded to the Browns. What was that emotion like after 428 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: having some success there as a rookie has a later 429 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: round pick and then being dull immediately right. 430 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: After that year. Yeah, I know, it was weird. 431 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: You know. 432 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 3: When I came in, I think a couple of weeks 433 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: before the draft. They had Eric Wood, who you know, 434 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: they kind of knew that Eric Wood was going to 435 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 3: be playing. He had a neck injury. You know, I 436 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 3: think he was on year eight or nine. And then 437 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 3: Richie Hangnito year thirteen. You know, you just finished his 438 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 3: thirteenth year. You know, they didn't know that he wasn't 439 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 3: gona be playing until about a week or two before 440 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 3: you know, I got drafted, so that wasn't on there 441 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: their plan, but they kind of got got me as 442 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: a depic. So when I first got there, I was, oh, 443 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 3: you know, Richie, you know, I'm following twenty three years 444 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: the interior year talent. You know, it's gonna be awesome. 445 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 3: And all of a sudden that changed. They were both 446 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: both retired, and you know, it was it was. It 447 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 3: was definitely, uh, definitely tough to you know, Eric was 448 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: always around but and a great guy. But you know, 449 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: so I got to talk to a little bit, but 450 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: he wasn't playing, so I didn't to really see his 451 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 3: you know, you know, his work or anything like that. 452 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 3: But you know, absolute great guy. And you know, Ritchie, 453 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 3: I never got to really meet Richie. But you know, 454 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 3: everything I've heard about him, you know, intense. The way 455 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 3: he worked out, the way he trained was you know, unbeatable, 456 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 3: so you know, respect to that. And then you know 457 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 3: i'd watched that and try to try to emulate the 458 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 3: last stuff. That's really hard. You know, you're thirteen. You 459 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 3: know your technique, you know your fundamentals. So it's a 460 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 3: little weird. 461 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: Uh. 462 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: You know, I think I started by game nine, so 463 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 3: I think I had seven starts to my first year. 464 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 3: And uh, you know it was it was definitely rough. 465 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 3: We didn't have the season. They went from playoffs the 466 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: year before. You know, new new quarterback, new new middle linebackers. 467 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 3: It was a little bit of adjustment and you know, 468 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 3: I just to be honest, didn't put my best play 469 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 3: out there. You know, ended up getting traded after the 470 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 3: uh after camp the next year. But you know, I 471 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 3: thank God for that every day because it brought me 472 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 3: to somewhere where you know, maybe I wasn't you know 473 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 3: that not valued, but just like you know, they they 474 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 3: knew that I had a price that they could get 475 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 3: draft picks or something like that, and the Browns went 476 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 3: to a team that really wanted being you know, and 477 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 3: blessed for that. 478 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: Uh. 479 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 3: And then you know, I think I started nine games 480 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 3: the next year, and then a full season the next year, 481 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 3: and then full season. 482 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: Bill Callahan the offensive line coach here in Cleveland with 483 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: the guys, one of the most respected old line coaches 484 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 2: in the NFL. What's it like being coached by Bill 485 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: every day? Yeah, it's it's it's hard some some days 486 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: more than others. You know, he's a great coach. 487 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: Uh. You know, he's extremely smart, is extremely talent to 488 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 3: what he does. He's done it for so long. His 489 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 3: experience speaks for itself, you know. And his ability to 490 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 3: you know, teach pretty complex techniques in a you know, 491 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 3: kind of elementary way is what makes him so good. 492 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: You know, he can take a guy. I think in 493 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: the year before he came to Cleveland, I think he 494 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: had like something like fifty to sixty different combination of 495 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: office wide and including guys that did want to play 496 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: the week before and came out and started for him. So, 497 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 3: you know, it shows that his ability to get guys 498 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 3: ready is amazing. You know. So he's a great coach 499 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 3: and you know, I'm blessed to have him. 500 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 2: Scottie Peters is the offensive line assistant. He was the 501 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 2: guy that hung around before he was the coach here, 502 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: when Bob Wiley was around, so I got a chance 503 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 2: to listen to some of his thoughts on the ole 504 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 2: line plan. He was always a very different thinker as 505 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: far as your technique goes, very ahead of his time 506 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 2: for a line coaches. What does he bring to that unit, 507 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: what does he bring to that room on the offensive 508 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: line coach standpoint. 509 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think his you know, the technical side of things. 510 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: And like you said, I knew him like three or 511 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: four years before he got hired, and we went through 512 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: some things, and to be honest, I was a little unsure. 513 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, this doesn't seem, you know, 514 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: like it works. But he's always like crafting his his 515 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: techniques a year after year, like we changed different strikes 516 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: and stuff. But he has such a good understanding of 517 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: the body and leverage that he shows away like hey, 518 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: playing long independent handstrikes recovery, which is like one of 519 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: the biggest things I would always tell people, you know, 520 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: like Joe Thomas's ability to recover. He wasn't always in 521 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: the perfect position, but yes, he had this uncanny ability 522 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: to recover, and like he does a lot of things 523 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: with that as well, and so to match him together, 524 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: you know, with with Coach Callahan and the scheme and 525 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: then him with the technique in the in the past 526 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: bro and really trying different things. Yet you know, I 527 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 1: know it was a huge jump setter. They get here 528 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: and they want us to gell a lot more, you know, 529 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: And so I've learned to incorporate that type stuff in 530 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: my game. But just having that guy and he's fun 531 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: because he gets out there with the guys and he's 532 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: probably one of the stronger guys. Scotty like this is 533 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: this is unbelievable. He kind of runs a little bit 534 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: like you. He gets like people thinks he's Joe Thomas 535 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: a lot like he's like Joe. Maybe he's yeah exactly. 536 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 3: He has Spain's running down. 537 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: Like the ward and. 538 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 2: That's awesome having him around and being able to give 539 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 2: you just different ways to skin the cat, right. 540 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: I always said that there's. 541 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: A lot of good offensive linemen out there, and none 542 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: of them do it the same way, and so I 543 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: think having different perspectives is so important to be able 544 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: to teach a big group of guys because not everybody's 545 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: gonna be able to do it the same way. 546 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: You got to find your own method. 547 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: I'm always thought and you know, when Joel was young 548 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: left guard, we give him tips and stuff, but his 549 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 2: body was just built differently, so it took him a 550 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: little while to figure out what worked perfect for him. 551 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: I mean, his ankles don't. 552 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 2: Bend, they're completely welded together, so he's gonna play in 553 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: his toes. 554 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: But that's all right, Like you gotta find what works 555 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: for you. And this year. 556 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: A lot has been made this offseason about this is 557 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: Deshawn's offense, this is what he's comfortable with. Him and 558 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 2: Stefanski spent a lot of time together putting together offense 559 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 2: that works for him versus last year where it was 560 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: kind of Kevin's offense with a stack of plays that 561 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 2: DeShawn did well. So from your guys' perspective, you know, 562 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: how do you think this offense has evolved and what 563 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 2: do you think is going to be different about it? 564 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: What are you guys gonna emphasize that you didn't last season? 565 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, last year I think was a little weird. He 566 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 3: came in. We had every intention that he was, you know, 567 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 3: gonna play early, ended up not played early. Game eleven 568 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: was when he came back, So it was like kind 569 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 3: of make a little transition with the quarterback. We did, 570 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 3: you know, personnel stuff like that. So it's just a 571 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 3: little bit different. This year, we have a full offseason 572 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: with him as our in the helm. You know, so 573 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: blessed with that. You know, we're thankful that, you know, 574 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 3: we can really work the place that we're gonna be playing. 575 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: You know, last year it would be like we did 576 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 3: all these different uh you know, personnels and plays with Deshaun, 577 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden we got Jacobe and it 578 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 3: was run the day ball and it was nice, you know, 579 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 3: and then and uh Jaco Jacoby, you know, he played great, 580 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 3: and you know, then Deshaun came back, and it was 581 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 3: just a little bit different of a play style. You know, 582 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 3: you got to stay in front of your block because 583 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 3: you don't know if he's going to be going out 584 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 3: the B gap for the A gap, you know, d 585 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 3: Kobe he. 586 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: Would sit right there for as long as. 587 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: He could and then throw the ball and you know, 588 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: he was he was tough. He also you know, sold 589 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 3: the the late hits a little really well. So yeah, 590 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 3: you know, learn from the best. Yeah, but he was 591 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 3: he was great and uh you know, you know just 592 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 3: speaking of him as a guy. You know. I remember 593 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 3: one day after a press conference we ended up winning 594 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: the game and he was wearing a Joel the NFL 595 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 3: things NFL and it had so as a quarterback, I've 596 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 3: worn that a few times. Yes, yes, yes, and you 597 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 3: know as a quarterback to sporting your guys like that. Yeah, 598 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 3: he was big. That's got to feel pretty good. 599 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's different blocking for Deshaun versus like Jacoby? Like 600 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: what makes it difficult having a guy that you don't 601 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 2: know where he's gonna escape Because I never really played 602 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 2: for a true scrambling quarterback like that where you have 603 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: no idea where they're gonna be outside of two three 604 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 2: seconds into the shot talk. 605 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: I think especially for tackles, like knowing the depth of 606 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: the pocket, like how far back someone drops and how 607 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: you can you know, marry your sets and stuff like that. 608 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: Also knowing what you got to get a feel for 609 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: when he scrambles. So like last year, I definitely got 610 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: a call for holding ones where I was like I 611 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: got locked up and then the Shawn and runs out 612 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: of the pocket. You just like don't let go quick enough. 613 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: So I think getting that feeling of like all right, 614 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: my guy's going that way, not aren't the quarterback? You know, 615 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: I can let him go here getting them to say 616 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: of that. Just having a little bit more of those 617 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: quarterback runs in the playbook, you know where it's gonna 618 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna open things up. 619 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:40,959 Speaker 3: Though. 620 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: You see a team like you know, we just practiced 621 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: its Eagles, and they have so many RPOs and things 622 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: that are working in this league. I think I would 623 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: a guy like the Shan can add those into the 624 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: into the playbook. So it's really just get to feel 625 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: the timing, the depth of the pocket, really understanding you know, 626 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: what he does well, and I think we've learned that. 627 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: You know, you always think a blocked forever, but with 628 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: the Shawn, it's like he wants to make the big play, 629 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So he'll hold on that 630 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: ball and he's he's pretty strong in that pocket though 631 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: it's all the other night. You know, he take ahead 632 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: and he can still still get out of there. So 633 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where we're just we're just 634 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: learning each other. 635 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you have to run after the play 636 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 3: because he's trying to you know, run for don't anybody 637 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 3: hit him, you know, makeing sure you're the first one 638 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 3: there to pick him up. 639 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be really fun for us fans being 640 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: readier on the cusp at the start of the season, 641 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 2: to be able to have that quarterback that you feel 642 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: like can make those big, explosive game changing plays at 643 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: any moment, and you're gonna have them for the entire season. 644 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 2: So I'm curious for you guys, being that you've been 645 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: grinding and training damp for a little bit a while though. 646 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: Here was there something that you did this summer or 647 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: maybe in the offseason to help kind of recharge your 648 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: batteries as you guys are getting ready for the grind 649 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 2: of a football season. 650 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, there was definitely. You know, I had a baby, 651 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: so you know, I've had a you know, definitely a 652 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 3: time that focused on him. But you know, also like 653 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 3: you know, training a little differently. You know, instead of 654 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 3: just lifting six hundred pounds over your head, you know, 655 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 3: quad and six hundred pallets, you know, you're you're doing 656 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 3: conditioning while also lifting weights, you know, Zurcher carry stuff 657 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 3: like that, where it's like, you know, we're gonna be moving, 658 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 3: so we gotta be ready to go. You know. When 659 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 3: I came in I think, uh, you know, I think, uh, 660 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 3: our Dexas were low as a as an offensive line, 661 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 3: which is good. You know. It means that we're you know, 662 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 3: burning the burning the fat often getting. 663 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: Ready to go. Now about you, Joe, I, I enjoyed 664 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: a lot of golf, so I mean great Golfer's great golfer. 665 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say great, but I appreciate that way. No, great, No, 666 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: we you know, I spent the time in California with 667 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: the family and my family, you know, most of my 668 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: family's out there, but the kids, uh you understand, like 669 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: kids running around. We visited Wisconsin, so I gotta see 670 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, all the Zeitler's. Yeah, you know, wiscons the 671 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: Palace up there, Wisconsin, and that was that was my 672 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: first experience out there besides playing you know, in Green Bay. 673 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: So it was fun. But really for me now it's 674 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: getting away, spending the time of the family because you know, 675 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: in season it's a little bit it's a little bit more. 676 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: But you know, I kind of know where my body's 677 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: at now. So yeah, it's like I could train, I 678 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: can do all the work. But me and me and 679 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, Corney have picked up golf and and I'm 680 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: trying to play a bottom. You know, I was shooting 681 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: in the eighties this year also time. So I'm feel better, 682 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully when I lose some weight, get some 683 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: more rooms. Yeah, you know, and I think my inkle 684 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: mobility has improved him bringing that up. You know, I 685 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: don't plan my toast as much as I didn't. Really, 686 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: I still do play my toes though there's nothing. He's fast, 687 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. I know you got to have stiff ankles 688 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: to be fast. Yeah, you've checked out box. I still 689 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: thought about that. I see you've got a lake with 690 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: country club add on WI. You like to get out 691 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: on the golf course and swing the sticks. 692 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't. I don't. I'm not as good 693 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: as Joel, so I'll spend as much time on the 694 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 3: on the golf course. But we did actually get to 695 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 3: go out and play. And uh, you know, anytime that 696 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 3: Joel was in the sand, he was. It was amazing. 697 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 3: It's a hoping to get out. 698 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: And so you're saying he was on the sand a lot, 699 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: a lot. 700 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 3: You know, some people say, you know, you you lay up, 701 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 3: and he just absolutely going on. I've never said the 702 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 3: Joel as up, but anything but it was, it was 703 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 3: it was impressive, you know, watching him play, and you know, 704 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 3: I think there was a couple of holes there where 705 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 3: I was just putting out of my mind. 706 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: Anybody had like ten straight one plus? Yeah, it wasn't 707 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: maybe pretty getting to the green, but he was making everything. 708 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: So we've been a scramble team. Yes, yes, so you 709 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: took all of his money, is what you're trying to 710 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: tell me. I'm happy to hear that. Hopefully that you guys. 711 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: Bought a few dinners for each other here in training camp, 712 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: and make sure to return the fillure for all those 713 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: beautiful eighteen whole rounds that you bought for each other. 714 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 4: Uh, let's finish up with a little bit of rapid 715 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 4: fire questions because everybody love is the rapid fire question 716 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 4: and this can be anybody on the team, so it 717 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 4: doesn't have to just. 718 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: Be present company here. So who is the most likely 719 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: to dance. 720 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 3: At a club? 721 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: John Kelly? Yeah, John Kelly a good dancer? Does he 722 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: like to show off in the always dancing? You know 723 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: what I mean? It was the first name that popped 724 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: on in my head. I don't know. 725 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 3: And Delon can dance a little bit. He's always the 726 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 3: same music. He's always got his headphones. 727 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: But Fellows might be the best dancer. If he danced 728 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: at a club, he could definitely. We had a Halloween 729 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: party a couple of years. 730 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 3: He was really he thought I had no We got 731 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: to get some video that that'd be amazing. All Right. 732 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: Who's the most likely to pick up a check at dinner? 733 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 3: Jack? Joel? I mean when it comes off, it's a line, 734 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 3: you know. 735 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a pretty good rotation. We have like 736 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of older guys. You have a lot of 737 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: rich guys. 738 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: What you're saying, Nobody minds picking up last night, you know, Jed, 739 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: but no Green Byre I picked it up last night, 740 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: Jack and White picked up. 741 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: So we have a good little yeah, and no one ever, 742 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 3: you know, argues with it. It's like, hey, you're picking 743 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 3: up Yeah, so Jed, yous tinner? 744 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: And I'm coming this that. Who's the most likely to 745 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: be an NFL coach? Joe No on the whole team? Yeah, 746 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: on the whole team. Joel's gonna be. 747 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 3: Golfing too much. 748 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the point. I appreciate that. Yeah, I'm gonna go. 749 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: I think Dobbs's mind to do it, you know, but 750 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: he might want to do you know his ascro not. 751 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's pretty smart, you know I think that, Uh 752 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 3: you know Ethan Post, He's a He's really an intelligent guy. 753 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 3: You know, Nick Harris, I feel like. 754 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: I Shobe and like high school, like he just love 755 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: he just loves be around the guest. Yeah, yeah, I 756 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: like that. 757 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: Who's got the dirtiest locker was the biggest slob? We 758 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: talked about this all the time. 759 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 3: There's guys who might have a dirty locker, but they 760 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 3: keep everything in their locker right, And there's people who 761 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: who don't do that as much. You know, I'm not 762 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get. 763 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: Well you can names nobody podcast So Jeremia y room. 764 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 3: I catch myself walking by their lockers all the time, 765 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 3: picking up, Like. 766 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: I have a lot of clothes to have a lot 767 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: of years. So my locker looks like it's like messy, 768 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: but it's all clean clothes, just piled up. You know. 769 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 3: He knows where everything is though it's a big Hey, 770 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 3: do you know where that's yours? All the night out? 771 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: Yere, that's amazing. Does Joel have a favorite shirt? Is 772 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: there like that one? Go two shirts that he just 773 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: wears every day. 774 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 3: Every year you kind of have like a different shirt 775 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 3: and everyone fit. 776 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: Okay, whatever, I love this. Things look good. Yeah, well 777 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: I don't have you know, the the dryers at the facility. 778 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: I believe shrieks and shirts. I'm not getting weight. I 779 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: know that, so of course not I've never waives myself. 780 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: But I do have this footy for my rookie year 781 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: that the sleeves are cut off that if I'm doing 782 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: a big arm pump, it's only once or twice, you know, 783 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: I camp or something like that. 784 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: But that's my my go to you probably, Yeah, I 785 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 3: noticed the sweatshirts. After a couple of washes they start doing. 786 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 3: They'll tell you we can fat pani. That's all you know. 787 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 3: I know it's in season, but. 788 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 2: Come on, Yes, big guys always have that fat anxiety 789 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: and the little of this season. 790 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: Like I wait myself, but this shirt's getting really tired. 791 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get in trouble here. 792 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: They're gonna send me to fat camp after practice and 793 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to ride the bike. 794 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: Last question, I appreciate the time from you guys today. 795 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: Who's the one person that you would never allow controlling 796 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: the music in the weight room. I feel like people 797 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: have allowed me to. But I know that no one 798 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 2: likes to put on some country and everything. 799 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 3: They won't say anything. I guess I respect, but uh, 800 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 3: you know, Jack Coglan, he puts on this. Man will 801 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 3: put on like eighty m and it's like are we 802 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 3: in a club lifting it? 803 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: I love it? I love it? 804 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 3: Like like what's that two Friends? Is that the band 805 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 3: that does the Big Booty mix or something like that? 806 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: Put that on SoundCloud? Yeah, like Switches song? 807 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, it's like focused the focus. 808 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,959 Speaker 3: It's like, right, you're about to get to the good 809 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 3: part of the song. 810 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: It does rushure me because then like that, you know, 811 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: a good song will come on. I'm like, oh yeah, 812 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: and it changes. But I'm like the least music guy 813 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: in the weight room. Like I'm kind of one of 814 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: the older guys. Now they're like Joelie, get the music, 815 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, really don't want that responsibility right now, 816 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, so I kind of let it flow. 817 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 3: He always turns on how Chili Peppers. 818 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: It's I do like Kelly Vibes is kind of like 819 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: what you listen to in those formative years like middle school, 820 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: high school, Like whatever you listen to. 821 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: That's what you're going to go back to when you're 822 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 2: in your thirties and forties. Not to say you're old 823 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 2: or anything, Joel, but if you do like country in 824 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 2: the weight room but nobody else does, there's some good 825 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: country medim. 826 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: Mixes on SoundCloud. 827 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 2: MC forty is like a DJ group that does mix 828 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 2: ups and mashups with country and electronic, which is really good. 829 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: So you guys should check that out. I feel like 830 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: that might be a crowd. Please. 831 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 3: Jelly Rolls come out with some really yeah they don't 832 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 3: like some. 833 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: Hip hop country crossover that I feel like might appeal 834 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 2: to some anybody. 835 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, broader audiences. 836 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 3: So it's hard when you put on you know, Eric 837 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 3: Church and every song is a little slow, and. 838 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want slow in the way room. I'm 839 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: getting old because we've had the rookie scene for us, 840 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, doing thing, and I think I'm one for 841 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: like ten on doing what I say. 842 00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 3: Everybody starts chanting and the like, Yeah. 843 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta help my music game. You're back 844 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 2: to your crossword puzzle. You're like, all right, you guys, 845 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: tell me what you're done. Yeah, well for another podcast. 846 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: Keep you sharp and engaged in your crossroads. But I 847 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 2: really appreciate you guys coming on the podcast today. We 848 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 2: should the best of luck the rest of the preseason 849 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 2: and as we start the season. Thank you, Thanks guys. 850 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: Hall of. 851 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 3: Hall, of all the fame, all. 852 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 5: The walking Payton was a warrior running with bees and 853 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 5: rookies couldn't hold them. Wait up in one of his 854 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 5: creet as a creek through the zone. I am known 855 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 5: as a monster, the new Larry zarka ball and hall 856 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 5: going monks and somebody eatans and trying to stop Barry 857 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 5: Sanders and shunks in the game. You Justice Salamander never 858 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 5: had the boundary. Running through Yell Town, keep your head 859 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 5: up and rush. We looked like Jim Brown.