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My dog Finny very excited on 21 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: a Friday morning. Mike, Yeah, how about that? 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 4: For this week's edition is Stupodity, which will feature not one, 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 4: but two future Hall of Famers. 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: A couple of Hall of Famers cut it up. How 25 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: about that? 26 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 5: Three Hall of famers. 27 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: You yeah, Radio Hall of Fame. 28 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 4: I'm waltzing in. Why am I waltzing in? We waltz 29 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 4: into the Hall of Fame? 30 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 5: Why the hell are we doing this in the morning? 31 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: Because I because step. 32 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 4: That's because we were supposed to do it Wednesday, and 33 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 4: then we were supposed to do with Thursday, and then, stupotity. 34 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 6: We were supposed to do it Monday. Then we were 35 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 6: supposed to do it Wednesday. Then we were supposed to 36 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 6: do it Thursday, and here we are that morning, stupoity. 37 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 4: Let's get right to it, Tony Bisselli, it did not 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 4: make it into the Hall of Fame, even though I 39 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 4: promised he would get in this year. And we'll discuss 40 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 4: after all your efforts, I did exactly nothing. 41 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: But I'm gonna do it this year year. 42 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 4: Uh So, future Hall of Famer Tony Piselli gonn to 43 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 4: join us at Dwight, freddie Get to enjoined us. After that, 44 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 4: hopefully we'll have them both on together towards the end 45 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 4: and we'll have a couple of Hall of Famer future 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 4: Hall of famers. 47 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: Cut it up like that. But first let's get to 48 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: Tony PSELLI. How you been by the way. 49 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: I've been good man. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean 50 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: you failed the game with the Hall of Fame. You're 51 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: all talk. 52 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 5: I mean, you're how many years your year is gonna 53 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 5: take for you to realize that? Tony? 54 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: I realized that I'm just waiting for like the anomaly 55 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: where he actually does something he says he's gonna do. 56 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 3: This is the year, listen. 57 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 4: I thought COVID nineteen was gonna take care of it 58 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 4: this year, and I didn't have to do anything. And 59 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 4: even that was not enough to get you into the 60 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. Man, what the fuck? I told you 61 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 4: that early on? How are you feeling? By the way, 62 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 4: for those of you who don't know, Tony tested positive 63 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 4: for COVID, I want to say it feels like a 64 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 4: year ago, and described it as something that brought him 65 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 4: to his knees. And Tony Bisselli is in as good 66 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 4: as shape as anyone I know in my life. So 67 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 4: how are you feeling, you know, that far removed from Corona? 68 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel fine, you know, no issues at all 69 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 2: working out. I got really fat after Corona. I don't 70 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 2: know if it was because of COVID nineteen. I just 71 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: got really fat. It's probably because of eating too much 72 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: and too many dope beverages. But so I lost some 73 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: weight after our the years. I feel great working out, 74 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: you know, a few days a week and no lingering 75 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: effects I know about. I mean, I had a bunch 76 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: of work at the Mayo Clinic where they took pictures 77 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: of my lungs and no scarring and they did EKG 78 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: and all that stuff. So the heart looks good, so 79 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: I got I got zero complaints at this point. 80 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: Good. 81 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: We're certainly we're certainly happy to hear that I lost 82 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 4: my mom recently to COVID Tony. 83 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: I'm not certain. 84 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: No, I didn't know that. 85 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's And I had those words I just because 86 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 4: I know, I know how much pride you take it 87 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 4: staying in good shape, even after playing in the NFL, 88 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 4: And I had those words kind of resonating in my 89 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 4: head where you had told me that that thing had 90 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 4: you think it by to your family, where you it 91 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 4: had brought you to your knees. And so when my mom, 92 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 4: at seventy six years of age, it was already going into. 93 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 3: It with chronic. 94 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 4: Chronic arthritic conditions and autoimmune issues. We had a pretty 95 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: good idea that you know where that whole thing was 96 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 4: headed and so I really, Tony, I went back and 97 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 4: listened to the time we had you on to try 98 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 4: to help me kind of guide myself through it and 99 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 4: help guide my mom through it. 100 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: And I will tell you, and I haven't told you 101 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: this because I wanted the way to have you on 102 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 3: it was super helpful. 103 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 4: Like your word, your advice of getting through that thing 104 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 4: were super helpful to me, my family, and and even 105 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 4: my mom who didn't make it, but she fought really 106 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 4: really hard. 107 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's uh, I mean, listen, it's 108 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: been a tough year. I mean, it's it's amazing if 109 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 2: you think back where you know, we sit here end 110 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: of February, it's almost been a year since I got 111 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: COVID and then really when the whole world shut down, 112 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: I was early in the whole thing, and uh, and 113 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: a lot we've all been through a lot, and it's 114 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: it's been just a nutty year and uh and unfortunately, 115 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: you know, hopefully we're getting close to our side. Hopefully 116 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: it was a vaccine and a bunch of you know, 117 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: you know, we'll kind of stop this thing and get 118 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: back to living some sort of lives where we can 119 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: be with each other and communicate and be with their 120 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: loved ones. Especially you know, I got to you know, 121 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: my dad's older, and you know, he has cancer, and 122 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: so I worry about him all the time and getting 123 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: you know, getting COVID and and uh and it really 124 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: does affect you know, the older population, as you said 125 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 2: to do and got it took it, took your mom 126 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: and uh. And there's a lot of people like you 127 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: and and the families out there that have lost some 128 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 2: of the COVID and and uh. It's it's no fun. 129 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 2: But all we can do is keep fighting, keep pressing 130 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: forward and and and I'll tell you one thing that 131 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: you know what it does also I don't know about 132 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: it's done it for you is it makes you appreciate 133 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: just the little things, like just like changes your perspective, 134 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: like enjoy today. Like we worry about so many other things, 135 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: and we worry about what's going to happen next to 136 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: you here. And you know, if I'm going to get 137 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 2: this or I'm going to get that. I mean we're 138 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: joking about the Hall of Fame and and not that 139 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to be in the Hall of Fame 140 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: obviously be a huge honor but this year was different 141 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 2: from me the whole perspective. I mean, because of what 142 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: I went through with COVID. My wife had COVID. My 143 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: wife had two cancer issues she dealt with after COVID, 144 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: and she's fine, she's doing great. My you know, my 145 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: dad got care. I mean, you look at all these 146 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 2: things and it's you have a couple of options. You 147 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: can feel sorry for yourself and say, man, life's not fair. 148 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 2: At stinks and COVID stinks and everything else. Or you 149 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: can say, you know, I'm going to really appreciate what 150 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: I do have and not worry about the little stuff, 151 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: Appreciate times and family and the relationships, and maybe not 152 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: take life quite so seriously, laugh a little bit more 153 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: and enjoy. And I know you have no problem with 154 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: the laughing a little bit. 155 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 4: But I've even found we found laughter. Listen on our 156 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 4: show We Find Laughter and everything. We found laughter and 157 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 4: my mom passing away. We found laughter at my mom's 158 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 4: funeral where there's one hundred Jewish women trying to figure 159 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: out how to use zoom. 160 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, and don't I mean, I don't know about you, 161 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: but like you want, you want to live a rich life, 162 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: and the way you live a rich life is enjoined 163 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: the moments and uh and I remember when I you know, 164 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: when I found out I didn't make the Hall of 165 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: Fame this year, which is the fifth year in a rows. 166 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: I'm maybe I'm just gonna used to it. 167 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 3: It's my fault. Yeah, it's your fault. 168 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 7: Once again. 169 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: You didn't do anything you said you're gonna do. 170 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: It's that guy. 171 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 4: I gotta tell you, it's that guy at the Hall 172 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 4: of Fame. He's like the pitchman for you. Have you 173 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 4: seen that video because it's not a I should be 174 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 4: making that pitch video. 175 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: Well, no, we know we don't want that because you'll 176 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: you want to show up, You'll forget to. 177 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 7: Show up that. 178 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I want to because I hear a lot 179 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: about that and Twitter and everything. First of all, that 180 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: was only the first three menu of an eight minute presentation. 181 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: Sam Cavars does a good job. I've talked to people 182 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: in the room. Uh, and he does a great job presenting. 183 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,119 Speaker 2: That's not why I'm not in It's not okay, Samvar's fault. 184 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: He doesn't. He does a lot of research every fields. 185 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: I'm not in there because you know, for the last 186 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: five years, I think five guys more deserving than I 187 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: am and that line. 188 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: But I might agree with you on everyone, but Fanica, 189 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: I mean, get. 190 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: The hell out of here. He deserves to be there. 191 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 3: I'm good, I know. 192 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: The But I remember when I found out and I 193 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: called my wife and I called a couple of close friends, 194 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 2: and my wife was so mad, and I'm like and 195 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: I go like, relax, like it's all good, Like we 196 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: have a good life. Like it's like tomorrow morning we're 197 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: to wake up. You know, we're still gonna be married 198 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: and have great kids, great life, gonna go do whatever 199 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 2: we do. And my perspective has definitely changed after twenty 200 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: twenty and again I want to be in the Hall 201 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: of Fame, Huges honor, you know, individual honor in the 202 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: game of football. But at the same time, Stude, I mean, 203 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 2: I'm sure you went through the same thing. You want 204 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: to remember the moment you had with your mom and 205 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: the great laughter and the good times and stuff like that, 206 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: and not focus on the fact that some crappy disease 207 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: ended up maybe you know, ending her life sooner than 208 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: it should have been. But let's enjoy the moments that 209 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 2: we have. 210 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's interesting because I did test positive. 211 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: My mom did. 212 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 4: My mom went through that, and I'm interested because you 213 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: haven't been through COVID Unless you've been through COVID, Tony. 214 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 4: It doesn't what you see on TV the decisions I 215 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 4: had to make on behalf of my mom and my family, 216 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 4: or decisions I wish no son or no daughter would 217 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 4: ever have to make on behalf of their family. I 218 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 4: think just having someone super close to you, I don't 219 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 4: want to say, affects you in the same way, but 220 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 4: it's super stressful. And I'm certain when you were positive, 221 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 4: your wife and your kids went through exactly what me 222 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 4: and my dad and my brother went through. Where it's 223 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 4: almost equally as hard on the family as it is 224 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 4: on the person who has COVID, because there is a 225 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 4: loneliness to this, Tony, where I could not be there 226 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 4: for my mom, who has been there for me physically 227 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 4: my entire life. 228 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it was one hundred percent number one. 229 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 2: I mean, studies will tell you this. A lot of 230 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: times these serious medical condition and disease, cancer, COVID, whatever 231 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: it is, heart disease, were someone's impacted quite a bit. 232 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: It's every bit as harder or sometimes harder for the 233 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 2: caregivers because of the stress and an impact that it 234 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 2: goes on them. I mean, I remember thinking back when 235 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: I was in the hospital and it's stunk. I felt 236 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: like crap. But I'm just focused on that moment of 237 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: just trying to fight and get through it. Because you're 238 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: sitting there and my wife will tell you, which is funny, 239 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: you're like this, she goes, I'll be honest, she was 240 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: sick too. At the same time, she goes, I wasn't 241 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: even I was just glad you're at the hospital so 242 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: I didn't have to worry about you and deal with you. 243 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 7: She couldn't. 244 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: She couldn't get out of bed for like five days, 245 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: so she was But I think back to my kids. 246 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 4: Even in those moments, she was being your wife. 247 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: Yes, if I told you this last night, stupid. A 248 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: day before or maybe it's a day and a half 249 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: whatever before I went to the hospital, my wife literally 250 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: was making fun of me because I was feeling I'm like, 251 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: I don't I don't feel good, and I'm like I'm 252 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: I'm I starting to have trouble breathing, I'm like freezing, sweating, fever, 253 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: can't sleep, and literally and she doesn't feel great either. 254 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: By the way, and at one point she looked at me, 255 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 2: she says, stop being a blankety blanket. Get in bed 256 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: and go to bed and go to sleep. 257 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 5: Sleep it off. 258 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 3: Drop some turnoff. 259 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: She said, I thought you were I thought you were tough. 260 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: And then a day later I having that I see you. 261 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: But I but going back, I think about my kids. 262 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: They were I mean, they were sitting there all worried, 263 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: and it was it was more stressful for them because 264 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: here's their dad, right and they're you know, in college 265 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: age and all the way down to eleven, and they're thinking. 266 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 2: And it was probably harder on them than me because 267 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 2: I was sitting there just I'm just trying to get 268 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: through it. You're just like you just get. 269 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 3: Through the next day like crazy. 270 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, for you, like with your mom and your your dad. 271 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: I mean you are sitting there like just constantly thinking 272 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 2: about her and like what can I do and why 273 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: can I help and all those things, and and I 274 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: think that's every bit is hard or harder than the 275 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: person who's fighting. 276 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: So Tony, that's interesting. 277 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 4: So because you went through this and your family's been 278 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 4: through some stuff. The Hall of Fame vote, while disappointing, 279 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 4: did feel nearly as did You're going to get in 280 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 4: you know that. 281 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 3: I think you know that, yeah so, but but it's 282 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 3: changed your perspective, Tony. I think that's that's super interesting. 283 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it started last year because I remember, and I 284 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: think I told you on the last podcast I was 285 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: on that when last year I was so deaf. I 286 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 2: was really upset last year and I didn't get in 287 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 2: the year before in beginning of twenty twenty, and it 288 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: bothered me, and I remember thinking and and everything else, 289 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 2: and I remember everyone telling me that that year, oh, 290 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: next year is your year. Well obviously they were wrong, 291 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: but I remember saying that and it felt hollow when 292 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 2: I would hear that. And then fast forward a month 293 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: and a half, I'm laying in the ICU at the 294 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: Mayo Clinic, and for whatever reason, because I'm pondering life 295 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: after the Pullman hallogist just came in and said, we 296 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: don't know what's gonna happen to you, right, I'm sitting 297 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: there thinking, I'm like I could, am I gonna die? 298 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: And you know you have all those thoughts, but one 299 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: of the thoughts that came in to do was this, like, oh, 300 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: don't worry, next Year'll get in, and I at that moment, 301 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: I thought, I don't care about next year. I don't care. 302 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 3: About care about next hour. 303 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: I'm worried about that. I hope I get to go 304 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: see my family, to get to get out of this 305 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: dang place. And that's really from that moment on, I 306 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: was like, I'm not gonna worry about next year. And 307 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: it's when I didn't get in, I was disappointed, and 308 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: I said, Okay, let's move on and it's time to 309 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: you know, I kind of I think what I've done 310 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: a little bit is you kind of compartmentalize it. You're like, 311 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 2: all right, then put this in the box. I can't 312 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: worry about it. Nothing I can do about it. You know, 313 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: next year we'll deal with it again. But I'm gonna 314 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 2: worry about I'm not gonna worrybout next year because as 315 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: I told David Baker when he called me and told 316 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 2: me I didn't get in. And David, I've known him 317 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: for years because it's someone with the USC, I said, 318 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: and he goes, he goes, you know, started about talking 319 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 2: about next year in la and all that, and I said, David, 320 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: that's great. If I'm on planet Earth, still still living, 321 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: it'll be great and I'll worry about it. 322 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: Then all right, listen, we are going to double up 323 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 4: our efforts. If I double up, we're finally going to 324 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 4: do something. 325 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: So how do you explain to me how you double 326 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: up from zero? Like if you double zero, it's still zero? 327 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 5: All right, triple up? 328 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: Instead doubling or tripling up, how about you just do 329 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: something like just like I'm trying to think, what's the 330 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: lowest common denominator that Stu Gotts can do in this 331 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 2: like even like maybe mention it on the show with Dan. 332 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: I mean that right there would be groundbreaking, Like if 333 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: you just kidding well that said anything, that's fair. 334 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 4: Listen, Dan thinks you're a We both think you should 335 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 4: have been in the Hall of Fame. But Dan, I 336 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 4: grew up watching you with the most menacing tackle we 337 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 4: both ever seen. Here's what I've done. Okay, I have 338 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 4: summoned No, I'm telling you, I have put calls it. 339 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 3: I'm not bullshitting you this time. Okay. I reached out 340 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: to Jason Taylor. We're gonna put together a video. Jason 341 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 3: Taylor believes you should be in the Hall of Fame. 342 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 4: Dwight Freeney, who's become a recent friend of mine also 343 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 4: believes that you should be in the Hall of Fame. Okay, 344 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 4: and then I become friendly with Shag Khan's son, Tony. Okay, 345 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 4: so the three of us, well the four of us, 346 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 4: I should say, and I am going to voice a 347 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 4: hype video for you. 348 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: How about that. 349 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 4: That's gonna get you in. But remember the deal we made. 350 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 4: When I get you in, I make the speech total. 351 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: The funny thing is is what you said the first 352 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: time is more accurate. The three of them will do something. 353 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 4: When I reached out to love it who handles all 354 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 4: Jason Taylor stuff, he was like, JT. 355 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: Really wants to do this. What do you want to do? 356 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 3: And I go, I'll just follow JT. 357 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: I don't think you have a bigger fan than Jason 358 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 4: Taylor and he's a Hall of Famer. 359 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 3: So you know that helps coming from the inside. 360 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: Yes, your first thought was I know it, dude, Like, 361 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: what's the least amount of work I can do and 362 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: get the most credit for. 363 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 7: Bingo? 364 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: And it was called j T. I want. 365 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 4: I'm wondering Tony as a uh, you're still in Jacksonville. 366 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 4: You're you're you're doing And by the way, me and 367 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 4: you're getting itching very closer to you and I doing 368 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 4: after your drive at Jacksuville. 369 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: You're making your way out of like. I love this 370 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: journey you and Dan are making. It's perfect. 371 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, well listen, you told us if we left 372 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 4: the ESPN, you would no longer listen to the sp 373 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 4: I know. 374 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: I don't need that. 375 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 7: I don't listen anymore. 376 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: That we love you. 377 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 4: I am wondering how you felt though at the exact 378 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 4: time the Jaguars hired urban Meyer. 379 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 3: What were your thoughts. 380 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was. First of all, it's hard 381 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: to argue the higher I mean, the guy has won everywhere. 382 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: And my favorite is when people say, oh, yeah, we 383 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: want to Florida and Ohio State because he got better 384 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: players than everyone else. Okay, what's number One's part of 385 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 2: the job. But if you look at he won a 386 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 2: Bowling Green, you're telling me he was getting five stars 387 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: at Bowling Green. No, he went at Utah when Utah 388 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: was like, he went undefeated and beat Alabama. I think 389 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 2: it was in a bowl game. 390 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: I mean, so the dude turned down Smith in the 391 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: number one pick of the Yeah. 392 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: The dude's won everywhere, and so the question I always 393 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: said he's like, Okay, can he translate from the college 394 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: game the program. You don't know until he does it. 395 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: I like the hire from the standpoint. Listen, this team 396 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 2: was one and fifteen last year. It's been one of 397 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: the worst franchises in the last decade, I mean, and 398 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 2: so what they had been doing was not working, and 399 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 2: so I liked out of the box thinking. I like 400 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: the aggressiveness of Seag Cohn of going out there and saying, hey, 401 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 2: we're I'm gonna go find a guy who's won, who's 402 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: a leader, and he knows how to lead men. So 403 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go get that dude. And you know what, 404 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: I applauded. He was aggressive, it was a swing for 405 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: the fences, and and he's the head coach. Now. I 406 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: don't think anyone thought, well, you know, when the rumors 407 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: started getting out there, I got, is Urban really going 408 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 2: to go to Jacksonville? Because jacksual hits his things to 409 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,239 Speaker 2: you know, this is like it's the afterthought a lot 410 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: of times, and partly because they have it one forever, 411 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 2: We have it one forever. And so I liked it 412 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 2: from that standpoint. I think Urban is a leader and 413 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,959 Speaker 2: he's had success and I'm hoping it can translate from 414 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: the college game to the program. 415 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 3: I will tell you, until recently, the Bucks and the 416 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 3: Dolphins weren't much better. 417 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: So that's right, that's right. Florida teams have struggled. 418 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, they have so all right, And I agree 419 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 4: with you because I think the the head coaching position 420 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 4: is more CEO type, a guy who I just who 421 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 4: can motivate, who can galvanize, who can bring the right 422 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 4: people in. 423 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 3: But speaking of. 424 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 4: Bringing the right people, and it's just a colossal mistake 425 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 4: for someone who I admire from a CEO standpoint, someone 426 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 4: who I think could be good at this. Urban Meyer 427 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 4: in the NFL for his one of his first hires 428 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 4: to be Chris Doyle, the strength and conditioning coach from 429 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 4: the University of Iowa who was let go from Iowa 430 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 4: because several players started voicing their feelings of their time 431 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 4: with Chris Doyle and some of the racial allegations that 432 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 4: went along with that. What did you make of that, Higher, 433 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 4: Because to me, it was an unnecessary hot here Tony, 434 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 4: and it was not for that to be one of 435 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 4: your first moves. 436 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: Not the brightest move by Urban Meyer. 437 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was surprised, and I think it's 438 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: I thought I found out about a week or so 439 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 2: before that that was the direction that he was thinking 440 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: about going just through the grape vine here Jacksonville. And 441 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 2: I remember thinking of myself, I said, I don't understand 442 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 2: the higher and I don't know Chris Doyle, and I'll 443 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 2: be honest, I haven't dug into the allegations and the 444 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: study and everything else. All I know is that he 445 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 2: was let go because of accusations of racial behavior or 446 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: that was not good and mistreatment of players, you know that, 447 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: physically whatever. 448 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: That's all I know. 449 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: And so when I heard that we were hiring, and 450 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 2: I'm like, Urban Meyer has is a great leader as 451 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: a CEO type coach that you talked about, and he 452 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 2: has credibility coming in. But no matter what how much 453 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 2: credibility you have coming in, you still to earn the 454 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: trust of the players because those players who are coming in, 455 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 2: they're gonna say, Okay, let me find out what Urban 456 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: is about. Let me understand, like who this dude is, 457 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: and how is he going to treat us, and how's 458 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 2: he gonna lead and what you know, and because in 459 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: today's professional sports, and I'll just talk about football more 460 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: than ever, more than when I played. You have to 461 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: develop relationships with the players, and those relationships have to 462 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 2: be built on trust. It's just the way. I mean, 463 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: I think it's always been that way, but even more 464 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: now because of the culture we live in, and you 465 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 2: know how it's moved more towards players having a little 466 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: bit a bigger voice than everything else. And so if 467 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: you want to lead them, and I think this is 468 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: in any industry, by the way, not just sports. If 469 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: you want to lead people, they have to know you 470 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: care about them and they have to trust you. But 471 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 2: that's how you can be most effective. Well, when you 472 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: hire a guy I wrongly or rightly, I'm not making 473 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 2: a judgment about Chris Doile because I don't know enough. 474 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 2: It wouldn't be fair for me to do that. But 475 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: when you hire a guy that was fired to let 476 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 2: go from his last job because of racial allegations, the 477 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 2: perceptions out there, this guy has some issues and you're 478 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 2: gonna hire and bring him in as one of your 479 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: first moves. When you know as a leader you have 480 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 2: to go build that relationship and build it based on 481 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 2: trust and your audience and the men you were leading, 482 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: the majority of them are black men, yes, And so 483 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: I didn't understand the move. What do we do you know, 484 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: because you're communicating something to this group of people you 485 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 2: don't have a relationship with that It would have been different, 486 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 2: in my opinion, if Urban had been a coach at 487 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 2: Jacksonville for five seven years, had won, had built relationship 488 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: with his players, had a leadership counsel and everything else, 489 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: and he really felt like Chris Doyle was the best 490 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: guy for the job. That Chris Doyle had learned changed 491 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: because I do believe people deserve a second chance and 492 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 2: everything else. And he went and met with his team 493 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: and said, hey, guys, this is what I'm thinking about 494 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 2: out with the leaders of the team and said give 495 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 2: me your input. And they built that and they said, okay, 496 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: we're in Okay, fine, But when you're trying to do 497 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 2: it for the first time and build that trust, I 498 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: just didn't understand this, Toue. I thought it was a 499 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: really risky call. I thought it was a misstep. And 500 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: this was before it was proved right, I mean, it 501 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: was a misstep. And he took him twenty four hours 502 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 2: to realize that, hey, we need to make a change 503 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: here because this is not the right. 504 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 3: Call right, And for such a listen. 505 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 4: You could say what you want about erban Meyer, and 506 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 4: I've said plenty of bad things about him, but for 507 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 4: such a smart man to make such a stupid higher, 508 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 4: and you're right, I think five six years down the road, 509 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 4: when Urban has built up some equity with the team 510 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 4: in the organization and then he wants to sit down 511 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 4: and make a controversial higher. But he gets this team 512 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 4: to buy in on it, that's a little bit different. 513 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 4: But to spring this on his players, specifically his black 514 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 4: players who he's trying to build relationship with and trying 515 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 4: to establish trust with. 516 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 3: If I'm a black player in that locker room, I'm 517 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: scratching my head and I'm wondering about my head, coach, 518 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 3: aren't you, Tony? 519 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, And that's the thing, and so that at 520 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 2: some level the damage has been done, even though you 521 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: fire christ Doyle twenty four hours later, because the question 522 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 2: now is is like, okay, what's going on here now? 523 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,239 Speaker 3: And you're also left to want and you're also I'm 524 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 3: sorry to cut you off. 525 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 4: You're also left to wonder if they got rid of 526 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 4: christ Doyle amid media pressure, did irban Meyer really want 527 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 4: to get rid of christ Oile or did he do 528 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 4: it because there was so much pressure. 529 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 7: I mean, you and I both know that it could be. 530 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: We don't You'll never know, but that, but that happens 531 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: all the time, you know that. I mean, people make 532 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 2: decisions because of the of course, the perception, the power 533 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 2: of the media. And in today's world we live in 534 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: with social media, I mean, people get just canceled as 535 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 2: the saying goes, and get pushed into a corner whether 536 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: they like it or not. Sometimes. And so that's why, 537 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 2: because you're right, Urban is such a smart man. 538 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 7: I mean, the guy is successful. 539 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 2: And that's why I didn't understand, like, and here's the other, 540 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 2: in my opinion, a little bit of a failure. Where 541 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: were the people around him saying, whoa time out? 542 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 7: Do we time out? 543 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: Let's take a time out. 544 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 7: Let's think about this. 545 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 2: What is the message we're sending to our locker room again, 546 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 2: our locker room is the majority of the men in 547 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 2: that locker room are black men. But what are we 548 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 2: sending him the message that everyone regardless of their race, color, whatever. 549 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 2: And I think that that question must not have been 550 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 2: asked or they felt like or they under estimated, which 551 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: I don't understand how especially. I mean, we live in it. 552 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: We live in a it's a it's a it's a 553 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: topic that is being addressed daily in every industry, you know, 554 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: as far as race and relationships and how we in 555 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 2: equity and everything else. I just don't know how that 556 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: one was missed. But I don't think it's impossible to 557 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: overcome for Urban I mean Urban, I mean, he's it's 558 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: just you got to build that relationship. You have to 559 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 2: build that trust. Yeah, that's that's the amazing Unfortunately, and 560 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 2: here's their thing. There's not a but own in my 561 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 2: body that thinks Urban Meyer is a racist or he 562 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: made that. I mean, there's not like at all. I mean, 563 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: there's nothing in it. I mean I look at his 564 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 2: track work of what he's done. I mean, listen to 565 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: the players that played for him, how they talk about 566 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: him as someone they respect. And so I just think 567 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: it was a misstep. And I think leaders all the time, heck, 568 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 2: we all make missteps. And now it's gonna be on 569 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: Urban just to fix it and build a relationship, and 570 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: it's just gonna be a little bit harder, But it 571 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 2: doesn't mean it's nothing. You can overcome it, and to 572 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 2: your point you go three and oh four and oh 573 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: five and one stuff like that. You know, all of 574 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 2: a sudden, everyone feels a lot better about the situation. 575 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: Now they're coming off of one and fifteen records, it's 576 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: gonna be harder. 577 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but Erba came there for Trevor Lawrence, 578 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 4: I think, and so it'sclusion well, I. 579 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 2: Mean, as far as I'm concerned, Yes, I mean you. 580 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: I mean you hear the rumblings you know on Twitter 581 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 2: and other sports talk radio, like the Zach Wilson kad 582 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 2: out and BYU might have jumped ahead of him in 583 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 2: some people's minds. I can't listen. I have watched enough film, 584 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 2: but even tell you, one way or another, I watched 585 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: TV like everyone else. 586 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 4: Tony, please take Zach Wilson and leave Trevor Lawrence to 587 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 4: the Jets. Please, I'm begging you. I mean, you have 588 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 4: influence of that organization. Make him take Zach Wilson. 589 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I have that kind of influence. 590 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean still to your point, I'd be shocked, 591 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 2: shocked if they don't take Trevor last. I mean, I 592 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 2: just can't imagine it. He's speaking of your Jets. You 593 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 2: hired one of you guys, hired one of my good buddies, 594 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 2: Robert Salive. 595 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 3: There's your head coach already. We had him on two 596 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 3: episodes ago. 597 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: He was fantastic, Robert saw I'm telling you Urban Meyer 598 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: was a great hire by the Jaguars. After set Urban aside, 599 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 2: I thought Robert Saula was the best hire of assistant 600 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 2: coaches out there in the NFL. Now I'm buying he's 601 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 2: a friend. But I think Robert sall you talk about 602 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: leadership and like that CEO quality. He's obviously a great 603 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: defensive mind. I mean he's proved that he was trained 604 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: under Gus Bradley and you know, did a great job 605 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 2: and took it even uh to San Francisco and was 606 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 2: an amazing defense cornator. I mean that's why he said coach. 607 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 2: But the greatest quality that Robert saul is not that 608 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 2: he's a good defensive coordinator. The greatest quality that he 609 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: is a bona fide leader. I mean he will lead 610 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: that organization and he'll do a great job. I thought 611 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: the Jets hit a home run with that hire. 612 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 4: All right, I'm adding, Robert solid Mikey make it out 613 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 4: of this to the hype video to get to the 614 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame because he. 615 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 3: Is the guy. 616 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 4: I don't think anyone else needs to speak under the 617 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 4: Robert Solid because you're right, Oh no, he is. 618 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: I mean he is a leader man. That came off 619 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 3: in five seconds. 620 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 5: So then what are you gonna do? 621 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: Nothing? Gets Solid to do it. 622 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: You know, here like this is what this is what 623 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 2: Stuve's gonna do. 624 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 8: At the end of it, like it'll open with the 625 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 8: picture of Stu like is the start, and then like 626 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 8: at the end, like producer Stu Gott, director Gott's creative mind, 627 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 8: Stu Gotts and then like at the bottom of the 628 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 8: credit told list like Jason Taylor, roberta. 629 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 3: Very very small print that goes by very quickly. It 630 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,719 Speaker 3: will also say introductory speech. 631 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 2: Reason he's in the Hall Fames got Come on, Yeah, 632 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 2: I mean I was he good on this show? Was 633 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: Robert good on the show? 634 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 3: Oh no, he was fantastic. 635 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 2: He was. 636 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 4: He was amazing on the show. And I'm super excited 637 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 4: to have him. Is that dwy Freedy who just popped 638 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 4: into our zoom chat there day. 639 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 5: He popped in and popped out. 640 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 3: He did, he popped in and he popped out. It's 641 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: so great. 642 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 4: Tony, Tony, I wanted to I wanted to ask you 643 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 4: a quick question before we get you out here. First off, 644 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 4: you were breaking my balls about being up at seven 645 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 4: forty five of the morning. 646 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 3: Why are you doing that? Man? Because you are? 647 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 2: You? 648 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 3: Are you like the Army. You've done more before seven 649 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 3: am than most people do all day? Is that what 650 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 3: you're doing? 651 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 2: I do get her. I do get up early, but 652 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: I go to bed early. I'm getting old, and it's 653 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 2: like I like my parents, Like it's like nine thirty 654 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh gosh, I gotta go get bed. 655 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: So but I get up early. I'm like an old 656 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 2: man's dude. 657 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 7: I know. 658 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 2: I just know you like anything before like eight. He's like, 659 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: You're like, oh my gosh, I mean how a bed? 660 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: I mean you have kids? 661 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 3: I mean kids, Like, listen, my kid's a seventeen year 662 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 3: old high school girls. 663 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: They sleep and when they're seventeen, they sleep until like eleven. 664 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 3: Yes, oh no, listen. 665 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 4: They are furious that I am speaking this loudly. I'm 666 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 4: pretty certain name of school too. 667 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 3: They'll give me ship. 668 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 4: Uh, Tony, I know you got a run. Dwight Freedy 669 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 4: is in the chat right now. He's gonna be part 670 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 4: of my hype fade, you know, get you into the 671 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. 672 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 3: Okay, you know what, let's go, let's go. What's up, man, Dwight. 673 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 3: It is a listen. 674 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 4: I've I've been telling Biselli for years. I haven't done 675 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 4: anything about it. I've offered to help, and I haven't 676 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 4: done anything trying to get him in the Hall of Fame. 677 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 4: But Baselli for five or six years was the greatest 678 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 4: left tackle. 679 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 3: I've ever seen. Dwight. He deserves to be in the 680 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. 681 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 7: Tell about absolutely. He's a legend. Okay. 682 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 9: I I've never played against him, but I heard about 683 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 9: the legend from Jacksonville. 684 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 7: Man, just going out and just destroying guys left right. 685 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: Man, Hey, Stu, I'll say this. You know, I like 686 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: playing against anybody, but watching Dwight play with that that 687 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 2: dang spin movie you had, I was like, I don't 688 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 2: want to play him up in the RCA Dome, man, 689 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 2: because that's bid move. I've watched White destroyed. I watched 690 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: White destroyed Hall of Fame tackles, and that's good move. 691 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 4: Oh yes, and listen, Dwight, such I forgot how great 692 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 4: of the athlete all you guys are, but Dwight specifically. 693 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 4: I went up and played golf with them last week 694 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 4: thinking I was gonna kick his ass. Dwight Freedy's a 695 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 4: scratched off or hits the ball three five yards off 696 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 4: the t Tony, well, Stu, it's not hard. 697 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 7: To beat you. 698 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 2: I mean, what's your average? What's your average? I mean, 699 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 2: you're the guy who's hitting like a part like one 700 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: hundred and forty part three. You're like knocked down this 701 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: hybrid trying to get. 702 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 7: Exactly right downdown driver. But he's always in the middle, 703 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 7: and he's always in the middle. 704 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: And come on now, thank you. 705 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: You can't hit it far enough to get to the rock. 706 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 2: That's why I gotta go. 707 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 7: Let's catch up right. Good seeing you many man, I 708 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 7: see you. 709 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 3: Man, Tony, thanks for everything. Man. I look forward to 710 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 3: appreciate all the help. That was a great Tony. 711 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 4: But Freddy, I had no idea you were joining us 712 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 4: today this. I was gonna leave you alone because it's 713 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 4: your birthday. 714 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 7: Happy birthday, birthday. Appreciate it. 715 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 3: And then Mikey must have pushed you to join. 716 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, enjoyed. It is what it is with my family. 717 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 7: So it's all good. 718 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 5: You guys intimidating. 719 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: Yes, happy birthday man. What are you doing today? What 720 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 3: do you doing for the brother? 721 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 7: You know what I'm doing all right? 722 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 9: In about about thirty in about thirty minutes, about to 723 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 9: be tee it all all right, no better way to 724 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 9: bring him up book? 725 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 7: All right? 726 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 5: All right, Dwight. I pushed you on because I need 727 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 5: to ask you a question. 728 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 6: Yes, So Stu was talking a whole lot of trash 729 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 6: when you guys were talking about golf, and Stu's like, listen, 730 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 6: I'm good, all right, I'm not good, I'm great. 731 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 5: And you were playing the Yeah, you know, I just 732 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 5: got into it. 733 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 6: You know, I'm just starting to learn, and I'm sitting 734 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 6: there going he's ah, it's a world class athlete. 735 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 5: Okay. So here's what I want to know. So Stu 736 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 5: shows up and you rip a driver three twenty down 737 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 5: the fairway. Did you catch his face? Because I want 738 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 5: to know how much his face fell? Like, oh no, 739 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 5: I might have. I might have stepped out of bout. 740 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 7: You know what it's all about. Perspective. Okay. 741 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 9: Now, I don't know who Stu plays with on a 742 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 9: day take basis world class. 743 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 3: I love you not Michael Jordans. 744 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 9: I love you to death, but I don't know who 745 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 9: you play with. And I'm not saying you're a bad 746 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 9: golfer because I have seen way. 747 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 7: Worse than you. 748 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 9: Okay, but I've been I've been blessed. I haven't blessed 749 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 9: to be playing with guys who absolutely make me eat 750 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 9: dirt in golf. Now that being said, I'm playing guys. 751 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,719 Speaker 9: I'm playing with professional golfers. I'm playing with Ricky Fowler. 752 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 9: I'm playing with guys who you want to quit the game, 753 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 9: you know, like Dustin Johnson ads. Guys I'm playing with, 754 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 9: you know, and maybe I should probably stop playing with 755 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 9: those guys and play and play more rounds with you. 756 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 5: So I like that idea. 757 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 7: My golf game, right, I. 758 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 4: Will tell you and Sean that's playing with the mon 759 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 4: is like playing with Fowler fellas exactly. 760 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 9: I mean, you got a mon who's ancient, right, and 761 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 9: he's lived three to four lives, all right, you know, 762 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 9: compared to me, and he drives me by ten fifteen 763 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 9: yards like it's nothing. 764 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 7: It's like it's nothing. 765 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 3: Mikey Height Well, hold on, Mike, I want to I 766 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 3: want to listen. 767 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,439 Speaker 4: I just I need to blame someone real quick, okay, 768 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 4: Because I showed up to Grove twenty three, which is 769 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 4: it's heaven on earth and so, and my wife was 770 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 4: so excited. My wife never plays golf, doesn't care about 771 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 4: anything that I do golf related. 772 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 3: She was so excited for this. 773 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 4: Because I explaining the course to where she made me 774 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 4: go out and buy a new outfanit. I'm gonna blame 775 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 4: this on my wife, mike Y. Yet she made me 776 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 4: go out buy a new outfit a belt. I was 777 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 4: dressed nicely. I never do that at my course. I 778 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 4: roll into Grove twenty three, go up to the driving range. 779 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 4: There's Dwight Freedy. 780 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 3: He's wearing Jim Schwartz and a T shirt. And I'm uncomfortable, 781 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,959 Speaker 3: like everything's tight on me. I don't feel And Dwight 782 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 3: knows you need to be comfortable to play golf. Well, 783 00:34:59,200 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 3: and I was not. 784 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 7: Go the man. 785 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 9: She sets you up and I don't know what's going on. 786 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 9: There is no rules, absolutely no rules. You go out 787 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 9: there just as you are to play barefoot if you 788 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 9: want to. It does not matter, man, Just go out there, 789 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 9: have a good time. That's it hard enough as it is, 790 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 9: Mike right, Golf's enough. 791 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 5: As it is, so next time you wear comfortable clothes 792 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,919 Speaker 5: and you'll beat Dwight. That's what you're saying. 793 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 7: That just means you can't use and golf. 794 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 9: You have to have a whole bunch of excuses to 795 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 9: why you lose. I mean, that's just part of the game. 796 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 7: Okay. It was the ball, it was the lie, it 797 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 7: was my clubs, it was my dress, all. 798 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 9: Typ of reasons, because you got to bring it up 799 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 9: because there's no other reason why you didn't play good 800 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 9: other than it's your fault. 801 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 7: And it's hard to well, why. 802 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 3: Were there, Dwight. 803 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 4: I will also that was not I usually play for 804 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 4: the Blue Tea's. You guys play from the tips, the 805 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 4: Carolina Blue. I mean, you know that's where the pros 806 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 4: play from, and you're problem. 807 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 7: I'm definitely not pro football. 808 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 3: And I will tell you this, there is a level. 809 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 4: I always wondered what it would be like on the 810 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 4: first team of Augusta, Like, how nervous that would be 811 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 4: if I actually ever got to play that course, Dwight, 812 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 4: just playing with you in a mod at Jordan's courts. 813 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest here, I I choked like I 814 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 4: was played. I made a I played a much better 815 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 4: back nine than I did a front nine. But I 816 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 4: I had like I'm sitting there thinking to myself, on 817 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 4: with two world class athletes and Dwight Fredy is a 818 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 4: mammoth of amazing who's smashing the ball, and I choked, 819 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 4: I got nervous. 820 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 7: Don't get we're not playing football. 821 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 5: Is sounds like he might have a better shot at 822 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 5: beating you with football. 823 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 7: That's a different game. 824 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 3: But Dwight, I paid, Dwight, I paid right after the round. 825 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 3: I owed you a lot of money. 826 00:36:58,920 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 7: Stand up, guy. 827 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 2: Hey, that invite is open anytime you want. 828 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, all right, I'll see you later tonight. 829 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 7: Exactly. 830 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 4: Wait, Dwight, And I'm being serious here because I don't 831 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 4: want to ask you anything I can am I allowed 832 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 4: to ask you like Jordan's birthday, how that go how 833 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 4: that goes down? 834 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 7: Or no, oh, you can ask him whatever. It was good? 835 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 7: He went out. 836 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, So we we went out his birthdays a 837 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 9: couple of days before months. All right, So we went out, 838 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 9: you know, a bunch of his friends, you know, and 839 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 9: we all played some golf and I pretty much just 840 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 9: ship the bed. 841 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 7: Okay, I was. I was his teammate so, so you know, 842 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 7: it's kind of like, you know. 843 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 2: You got, you got. 844 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 3: I think that's the I think that's the worst shob 845 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 3: of the planet. 846 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 9: It's kind of like, Okay, you got m Jay and 847 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 9: Pippin and Scottie and then you got White and in 848 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,919 Speaker 9: golf and he's relying on me and I'm sculling the ball. 849 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 9: I'm doing all types of crazy stuff that I never do. 850 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 9: He was like, happy birthday. Okay, I been around. 851 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 7: He's just dishing out money. I'm looking at it. 852 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 2: I'm like I like this. 853 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 7: I'm like this. 854 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 9: Oh no, my man, Hey, sorry, sorry, sorry, happy birthday. 855 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 7: I love you, my brother. Yeah, it was bad. It 856 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 7: was bad. 857 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 4: It's not bad to have to be able to celebrate 858 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 4: your your own birthday, your own golf course. 859 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 7: If you can do that, yeah, you're doing things right. 860 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 7: You're definitely doing things. 861 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 4: Wait, so if you're playing with Michael so yours teammate, 862 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 4: If you're playing with him and you contribute to him 863 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 4: losing money, does he like you know about it? 864 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 7: It is the worst. 865 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 9: You remember all those stories, you know, all those stories 866 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,919 Speaker 9: you like, uh, you know you're watching like his documentary. 867 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 7: You know him and how he is with his teammates. 868 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 7: It's a real. 869 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 3: Punching of Steve the face that happens. 870 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 7: You're not touching me, you might punch me in the stomach, but. 871 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 2: But it is. It is. 872 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 7: But seriously, you know we're so. 873 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 9: Competitive, man, Me and him were so competitive. I probably 874 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 9: felt worse and he felt about how bad I played. 875 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 9: It's just like, you know, that's just the competitive juices 876 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 9: in me that I gotta stand up. I got, you know, 877 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 9: I Man, this is his birthday. My guy has to 878 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 9: win on his birthday. 879 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 7: How can you lose? How can it be because of me? 880 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 7: I have to take the next day off. I can't 881 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 7: even believe I did. 882 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 3: What was? What was am I doing? Was was the 883 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 3: honest team against. 884 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 2: You know what? 885 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 7: My plays against him and my plays great. 886 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 3: Man. 887 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 7: Mon is just so smooth. He's just so smooth. He 888 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 7: just he just hits the ball. Oh yeah, I hit 889 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 7: it three thirty. Yeah, that's just what I do. 890 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 9: I get, you know, man, he hits the ball into 891 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 9: the mouth, into the water, and there's no way he's 892 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 9: not going to get wet. All of a sudden, the 893 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 9: water just splashes everywhere but him. This is a mon 894 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 9: You know, this is how Amon going. 895 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 7: I don't know how. 896 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 3: Yes, but listen, we all we all pray, and none 897 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 3: of us will, but we pray. We call that good. 898 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 4: At the age of seventy, I remember Bob Surah who 899 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 4: we saw in the golf course whispered to the guy 900 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 4: he was with. 901 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 3: That guy is seventy years. 902 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a shot every single time, a shot to 903 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 9: your system. And then you realize, man, listen, Like for me, 904 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 9: it's like, look, mind, you look like that at seventy 905 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 9: I'm doing something wrong at forty one. 906 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 7: Right now, I gotta get I gotta get on whatever 907 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 7: you're on. Man, I don't know what you're on, but 908 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 7: I gotta get on it. 909 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 3: All right. 910 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I got a couple of football things for you, 911 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 4: and I'm gonna let you go because your birthday and 912 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 4: I want you to go celebrate and enjoy your birthday. 913 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 4: Does your does your wife like, how does this work 914 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,399 Speaker 4: with the birthday? You have a baby three month old? 915 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 3: How does this work? His wife? For you to get 916 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 3: a day off from all parental responsible. 917 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 7: Absolutely not, Yeah, exactly. 918 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 3: I might have to do more now. 919 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 7: Birthday you know it's. 920 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 5: Don't you want to spend your birthday with your daughter? 921 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 7: Guys, I want to do, don't you No, I want 922 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 7: to spend it with Jay exactly. It's good though. 923 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 9: She's allowing me to go play golf, you know something. Yeah, 924 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 9: doing the things that love and obviously come back home 925 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 9: and spend some time with her. 926 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 3: Nice. Uh. 927 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 4: Before before I get you out of here, a couple 928 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 4: of things JJ Watt asking for you and I talked 929 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 4: about this a bit. In fact, it broke the day 930 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 4: that we played golf where JJ Watt asked for his 931 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 4: release from the Houston Texans. 932 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 3: How'd you feel about JJ asking for that? 933 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 9: Listen, I don't blame him, you know what, at that 934 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 9: stage of his career, he wants to go out the 935 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 9: right way, you know, and he doesn't want to go 936 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 9: out a loser. And I'm sorry, the Texans aren't heading 937 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 9: in the right direction right now. So he wants to 938 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 9: go out find an an organization who he could win with. 939 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 9: You know, a guy like that wants to win a ring, right, 940 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 9: So he's gonna find a place where he's gonna have fun, 941 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 9: win some football games, all right, and have an opportunity 942 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 9: to get to the big one. And I think that's 943 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 9: all great. I think that is one thing that they 944 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 9: want to check off their list by the end of 945 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 9: their career. Is that they had an opportunity to win 946 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 9: the big win and they did all right, And JJ 947 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 9: had a heck of. 948 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 7: Career, and I think that he deserves that opportunity so 949 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 7: more powers. 950 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 4: So I'm wondering, Dwight, because you were in contention just 951 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 4: about every year playing with Peyton Manning on those great 952 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 4: Colts teams. But had you not had the fortune of 953 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,720 Speaker 4: playing with Peyton and being so great yourself and playing 954 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 4: on those great teams, would you have maybe considered doing 955 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 4: the same thing at the end of your career where hey, 956 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 4: I gave it all I had here, I'm thirty one, 957 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 4: thirty two, thirty three, now I want to try to 958 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 4: go win a title. 959 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 3: Is that would you have tried that? 960 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 7: Well? 961 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 9: POSI, if I hadn't have a career put it this way, 962 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 9: if I had a situation like JJS where yeah, they 963 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 9: made for the playoffs and then they don't, you know, 964 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 9: it's it's it depends on the relationship that he has 965 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 9: with that team and they're moving things in the right 966 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 9: direction to trying to win a championship. Okay, not in 967 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 9: a rebuil. Building things Okay, you don't trade away your 968 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 9: best receiver, the best receiver in the game, and you 969 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 9: know you're eating your starting quarterbacks ready to leave. And 970 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 9: so it's one of those situations where if I was 971 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 9: in his shoes, based on his scenario, I would Now 972 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 9: you have other scenarios where teams try to build up 973 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 9: their team and just don't happen to get there, but 974 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 9: have all intentions on getting there. 975 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 7: You know, there's some loyalty to you have to your city. 976 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 7: Right you played there, you become the face of. 977 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,760 Speaker 9: The franchise, and as long as that franchise is moving 978 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 9: in those directions and you're seeing it as one of 979 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 9: the star players, a key player, then it's going to 980 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 9: be hard to leave and abandon that because they're doing 981 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 9: the right thing. 982 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 7: But if I was on. 983 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 9: Another team where they were trading getting rid of Marvin 984 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 9: Harrison and Reggie Wayne and got rid of you know whoever, 985 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 9: the kind of like, well, what are we doing here? 986 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 9: And why am I here? Why do I have to 987 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 9: sit around? And you guys have no you know, you 988 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,800 Speaker 9: guys are worried about five ten years from now, and 989 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 9: I'm not going to be around that long. 990 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's crazy. The Texans have really mismanaged that organization. 991 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 4: And then quickly, I'll let you go on this as 992 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 4: a former cult, your feelings on them with that trade 993 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 4: with Carson Wentz yesterday, So Carson Wentz the new cult 994 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,879 Speaker 4: quarterback reunited with Frank Wright. 995 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 7: You like it. 996 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 2: I love it. 997 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 7: I love it. 998 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 9: Frank and him have a great relationship. I think in 999 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 9: twenty and seventeen, you know, he had a great year. 1000 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 9: I think he had over thirty touchdowns and less than 1001 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 9: ten interceptions in the second year in the league. 1002 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 7: Man. 1003 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 9: So I think having that relationship there, that's very important, 1004 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 9: you know, from a play calling standpoint, trusting your quarterback, 1005 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,720 Speaker 9: the quarterback trusting the play caller. 1006 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 7: All right, that's Frank, all right. 1007 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 9: So there is a lot of like familiarity there, you know, 1008 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 9: and confidence there. The confidence brings brings success. So I 1009 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 9: think it's a really good good for the Colts. I 1010 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 9: don't know about the Eagles, but good for the Colts. 1011 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 3: You don't care about all right. I'm gonna leave you 1012 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 3: on this note. Happy birthday to you, Dwight. We love you. 1013 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 3: Here is just a couple of poll questions from yesterday's 1014 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 3: Dan Lebondard Show. 1015 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 4: Winste Gotts. Does a mad Rashad make you feel like 1016 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 4: he's known you for his entire life? 1017 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Just is just great, man. 1018 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 7: And a mon is just you meet him Mod and 1019 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 7: he you just just meet him on Min's like, you know, 1020 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 7: it's just like I just met you, Like I don't understand, like, 1021 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:45,839 Speaker 7: you know, how. 1022 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 3: Do you do that? 1023 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 2: He is great. 1024 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 4: I was telling it because I was telling Lebonzard yesterday 1025 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 4: he said, is a Mod a fan of you? 1026 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 3: Is he a fan of the show? I said, I 1027 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 3: don't know, but he certainly made me feel. 1028 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 7: Like, yeah, absolutely, man. 1029 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,839 Speaker 9: But man, you know, you know he's he knows who's 1030 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 9: still involved and who's still in you know, who's in 1031 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 9: the media, what's going on, and has his ear to 1032 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 9: the vine. 1033 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 7: You know, Mod's still in there, all right. 1034 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 3: I love I love your dynamic. Mikey. Hey, my favorite 1035 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 3: part of the round is after the round, Dwight Freedy. 1036 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,320 Speaker 4: And a mad Rasha okay, legends of the game fighting 1037 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 4: about whether or not there's actually zone blitzes the NFL. 1038 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,240 Speaker 4: Fredy getting so fucking man because he's like, I've executed 1039 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 4: zone blitz before. 1040 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 3: I'm screaming in the restaurant. 1041 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 4: I paint that picture because I love the dynamic between 1042 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 4: you and I'm on It's like it's like an older 1043 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 4: brother younger brother relationship. 1044 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,479 Speaker 3: It's so cool to watch. 1045 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,280 Speaker 9: It's something out man, and that's like what you witnessed. 1046 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 9: It was a classic me and a mod just disagreement. 1047 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 9: It's just like, Aman, what the sky is blue? 1048 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? 1049 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 3: No, it's not. 1050 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 7: It's it's teal, it's it's it's tempted with. It's not blue. 1051 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 7: Scott can possibly be blue? That's impossible. I'm like, how 1052 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 7: do you argue with somebody who just doesn't see the sky? 1053 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 3: Is like? 1054 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 2: That is boom? 1055 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,240 Speaker 7: That's boom. What are you talking about? 1056 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 2: You know? 1057 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 7: He doesn't. 1058 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 3: He would not. 1059 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 7: He would. That's why I love him though he won't. 1060 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 2: Budge. 1061 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,240 Speaker 4: All right, here's the here's the second pole question. Should 1062 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,720 Speaker 4: Steve Gotts have been more excited to meet Bob Surah 1063 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 4: or Bob more excited to meet? 1064 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 7: Where's a coin? 1065 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,319 Speaker 2: Let me let me right? 1066 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 7: That's what? 1067 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 3: Then the last question we had yesterday, should J J. 1068 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 3: Wako play for Army? Oh? 1069 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 7: Wow, I told you I'll do that with JJ. 1070 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 3: He's the first ballot JJ, but you were better. 1071 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:05,919 Speaker 7: We don't compete. That's same, same side of the ball. Okay, Okay, all. 1072 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 4: Right, hey, go enjoy your birthday, man, have a great 1073 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:13,839 Speaker 4: round of golf. We appreciate you coming on. Holy fuck, Mike, 1074 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 4: I love He's so good. 1075 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 3: He is so good. Listen. I I love Tony Boselli. 1076 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 2: I do. 1077 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,320 Speaker 4: He's a dear friend. He is a legit friend, Dwight Freedy. 1078 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 4: There's a budding friendship, a growing friendship. I fucking loved him, Okay, Okay, 1079 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 4: the effort Fredie stands for fucking love you. 1080 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 2: Man. 1081 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 6: I'm gonna go full stew Gotts with your permission, obviously, 1082 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 6: and I'm gonna say I discovered him because I did 1083 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 6: book him on this podcast, and I'm gonna say I 1084 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 6: discovered him. So I'm gonna go ahead and take credit 1085 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 6: for everything he does from this point forward. 1086 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 3: Listen, you and I have both been doing this. We've 1087 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 3: been in this industry for. 1088 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 4: A long time, and every once in a while and 1089 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 4: natural comes along, okay, where it's just like what lights 1090 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 4: up the sky? 1091 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 3: Okay, like dwife Freeny. We never explain this to him. 1092 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 4: I'm pretty certain he's never done any of this before. 1093 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,760 Speaker 4: He's now been on with us twice. He has crushed 1094 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 4: it twice. You and I never walked him through this, 1095 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 4: talked him through this. He just came on and started talking. 1096 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 4: And sometimes that's enough because his personality is so engaging 1097 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 4: and Mikey, the. 1098 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,720 Speaker 3: Most important thing is he does not take himself seriously. 1099 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:19,320 Speaker 3: That's it. 1100 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,320 Speaker 6: And I knew that, which was why I was so 1101 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,760 Speaker 6: excited to ask him about your round of golf, especially 1102 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 6: when you told me how he kicked your ass and 1103 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 6: I and it makes so much sense here he is, 1104 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 6: He's playing eighteen with guys like Ricky Fowler, and you're 1105 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 6: getting tips from your neighbor Joe, and you know, Joe's like, 1106 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 6: keep your elbow in and Ricky Fowler's playing eighteen holes 1107 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 6: of giving him tips, and you're wondering why this world 1108 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 6: class athlete is whooping your ass on the golf course. 1109 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 4: He totally fucking dude me, I'm telling you. And the 1110 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 4: reason he keeps inviting me out there is because he 1111 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 4: sees the money. Yes, he's a fucking shark, dude, I'm 1112 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 4: telling you. And I'm a piece of chumming Dwight Freddy's 1113 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 4: Oh shit, that's all I am. Jesus Mikey three fifty 1114 00:49:59,280 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 4: down in the middle. 1115 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 7: I'm joking. 1116 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 3: He drove a part four. He was on the grade 1117 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 3: of one. I mean it took me four shots to 1118 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 3: get there. 1119 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 5: How many pairs of pants would you need to be 1120 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 5: Michael Jordan's teammate on his birthday? 1121 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 3: Oh my god? 1122 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,879 Speaker 4: Well, I mean Freani did point out that, as bad 1123 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 4: as it could possibly get, Michael is not punching in face. 1124 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,240 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean Dwight Freeney again, world class athlete. 1125 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:23,879 Speaker 5: That's not a dude. 1126 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 3: I listen, I don't even listen. 1127 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 4: Even being Scotty Pippin was difficult, and he's like, he's 1128 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 4: a top fifty all time player. A lot of people 1129 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 4: credit Scotty for being the reason that Jordan finally won, 1130 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 4: But even being Scotty was tough for Scotty. And he's 1131 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 4: the best teammate Jordan's ever had. So no, I would 1132 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 4: not want to be Michael Jordan. 1133 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,320 Speaker 5: And you were the best. You were the best teammate 1134 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 5: Dan Levittard's ever had. 1135 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 3: Stupidity, Yes, Brads, cow Host 1136 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:55,359 Speaker 2: Oh Man