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Speaker 1: Good morning swim. Then welcome to a bonus episode of

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Speaker 1: the No Dunks podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Saturday,

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Speaker 1: November twenty fifth, twenty twenty three. I'm jay E Skeets

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Speaker 1: here in the yard solo dolo like a sicko to

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Speaker 1: break down all of Friday Night's NBA in season tournament scores,

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Speaker 1: look at the advanced scenarios for the group play winners,

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Speaker 1: and maybe some predictions when it comes to the wild

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Speaker 1: cards and the quarterfinals. If you're watching me live on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: and review. I'm gonna try and get you in and

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Speaker 1: out here in twenty minutes. Because Friday's IST game that

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Speaker 1: didn't disappoint, almost every one of them featured significant sort

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Speaker 1: of tournament implications. I thought we should really break it

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Speaker 1: down because I was walking Luna thinking, you know, we

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Speaker 1: got to play our part here as part of the

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Speaker 1: quote unquote media in trying to sell this ist or

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Speaker 1: at least explain it to people, because it can be complicated.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to try and do my small part

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Speaker 1: in helping this succeed because I'm having fun with it.

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Speaker 1: It's cool that these games mean a little bit more

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Speaker 1: here in November and as we get closer to the

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Speaker 1: knockout stage big picture for everyone, this is where we stand.

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Speaker 1: We're looking for six of the eight teams still to

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Speaker 1: advance to the knockout stage. Again, lots of games on

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Speaker 1: last night, but at the end of it all, we're

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Speaker 1: still looking for six more teams to actually make the

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Speaker 1: knockout stage.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, the Pacers and Lakers, they're both in.

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Speaker 1: We knew this. They have now both finished with a

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Speaker 1: four and oh record. They both won their respective Group

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Speaker 1: a's so Pacers and Lakers, you're good.

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Speaker 2: Their fans are pumped. The NBA is probably very excited.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers are going to have a shot in the

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Speaker 1: knockout stage. And we're also fairly confident a third team

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Speaker 1: has sort of punched its ticket to the knockout group there,

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Speaker 1: knockout stage. I should say that's the Phoenix Suns, but

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Speaker 1: we'll get to them in a second. Here's what happened

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Speaker 1: last night, though, I'm gonna move with some pace Friday's

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Speaker 1: action began in the afternoon with a statement win from

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Speaker 1: the Magic over the Celtics, who not only positioned themselves

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Speaker 1: Orlando Magic they're for real. And it was Mo Wagner,

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Speaker 1: not Franz brother Moe, who had twenty seven points leading

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Speaker 1: the Orlando Magic over the Celtics, spoiling Boston's attempt at

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Speaker 1: clinching East Group See. If they had won that they

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Speaker 1: later in this pod, I'll look ahead to the Tuesday games,

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Speaker 1: the final night of the group play in the IST

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Speaker 1: and sort of what could happen or what needs to

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Speaker 1: happen for teams to advance. Following that game, though, the

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Speaker 1: Suns comfortably crushed the Grizzlies that puts them in pole

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Speaker 1: position for the Western Conference wildcard spot. Booker scored a

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Speaker 1: season high forty got NBA TV analysts calling him beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Eric Gordon added twenty. They played with out Katie in

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Speaker 1: Of course, Phoenix led by as many as eighteen. The

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Speaker 1: Jordan Goodwin scored eight straight for the Suns in the

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Speaker 1: one of the four matchups in the knockout stage the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: With that plus seventy four point differential, they're going.

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Speaker 2: To be the top seed in the West.

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Speaker 1: They're the top seed, and then the Suns, by virtue

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Speaker 1: Those games are going to be played on December fourth

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Speaker 1: with the bingbong. That's right, bing bong. The knicks ist

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Speaker 1: dreams are alive. They trailed a ninety six eighty seven

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Speaker 1: They go to two and one. They're plus eighteen point differential,

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Speaker 1: Bucks got it done though wild game two ties nineteen

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Speaker 1: they're saying he's gonn gonna be okay? Has he been

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Speaker 1: still undefeated and they are top East Group B. With

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Speaker 1: Jalen Green twenty five points, elprin Shnggun twenty one and fourteen.

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Speaker 1: this is dominant victory. Here, Houston improves to two and

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Speaker 1: Remember what the Suns were, they were a plus thirty four.

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Speaker 1: They could win the group because Pelicans fans and their

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Speaker 1: players and their coaches. They are now the biggest Mavericks

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday night with Houston visiting Dallas, Okay. Pels want

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Speaker 1: Rockets want to win and they're in finally in West

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Speaker 1: Group CE. On Friday night, Deer in Fox Star Fox

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Speaker 1: loving this, by the way, seeing star Fox go off here.

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Speaker 1: Kings prevented the Wolves from clinching a spot in the quarterfinals.

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Speaker 1: They they shot like forty nine percent from three in

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Speaker 1: their eleventh straight loss. They can't even spell when Minyama's

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Speaker 1: the head to head tiebreaker. Okay, that's everything that went

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Speaker 1: of group stage play on Tuesday. I want to give

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Speaker 1: a huge assist here to Sam Quinn and Jack Maloney

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Speaker 1: at CBS Sports, Tim Bontemps a Despn Hollinger is always

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Speaker 1: great with this stuff. Again, they are doing incredible work

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Speaker 1: what has to happen. If the Bucks beat the Heat

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Speaker 2: A wildcard team in the East.

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Speaker 1: In East Group C, Orlando has played all four of

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Speaker 1: and make it very simple for the Magic fans. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: that's okay, the Magic also advance. But if the Nets

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Speaker 1: and right now the Magic plus twenty two Nets plus

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Speaker 2: So that was a lot.

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Speaker 1: But Magic are feeling pretty good, not only because they

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