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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. Anyone's still out there, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan Hand is coming to you from a

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Speaker 1: virtual room filled with hero Mark Sessler, right Rosenthal? What

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Speaker 1: is up? Boys? What's happening? Big week? We too training cramp?

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Speaker 1: Let's go training cramp. A lot of guys are gonna

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Speaker 1: get cramps. Who you know these guys gonna be in shape?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm very we've touched down it on

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Speaker 1: this show that, uh, you gotta be a little bit

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Speaker 1: of worried about guys being able to stay healthy once

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Speaker 1: this thing kicks off. And again MLB is the guinea pig,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like half of the premier starters in

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Speaker 1: you know, these these athletes are like so finally tuned

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Speaker 1: the schedule and then we're gonna be wrapping them up

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Speaker 1: to full speed. Just another challenge facing us. I think

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Speaker 1: been working out at home or in the gym or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But people that you know football players and coaches love

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Speaker 1: to talk about the difference between being like in shape

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Speaker 1: and football shape, and the only recipe for football shape

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Speaker 1: is to put on those pads and hit. That's what

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Speaker 1: I say when I play football. Well, yes you do.

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Speaker 1: I mean I feel like if anything like the low

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Speaker 1: the last five plus months. These guys, you saw them.

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Speaker 1: They're all over the place. They're they're just an unusual

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Speaker 1: it just doesn't seem the same to me. But this

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Speaker 1: isn't one where like dude rolls in twenty seven pounds

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Speaker 1: Keith Brown added twenty three pounds this offseason. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's a lot on a hundred and fifty seven pound frame.

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Speaker 1: He plan, Greig, you and I remember we're not big guys, Like,

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Speaker 1: a smaller football player, you know, compared to others his

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Speaker 1: his body shape is in no way similar, even at

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Speaker 1: you scaring that he's scaring that landscaper in the backyard

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Speaker 1: So mm hmm. An, I don't know if that triggered

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Speaker 1: developing slash break. You're moving, you're moving? Are you going

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Speaker 1: with two ships passing in the Western Los Angeles night interesting?

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Speaker 1: All right? Coming up on today's show, Nate Tye, son

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Speaker 1: of former Vikings head coach Mike Tyson, former quarterback in

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Speaker 1: his own right, and he does really nice work in

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Speaker 1: the tape study game. We're gonna speak with Nate about

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Speaker 1: So looking forward to that conversation. But before we do that,

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Speaker 1: with the much scrutinized opt out deadline. We know that

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Speaker 1: guys doing doing very well, Nate, or something like that,

427
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 1: like like a Tiffany song playing from the mall that

428
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: what we're doing. Yeah, we might struggle to get Tiffany cleared,

429
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: but maybe something that sounds like Tiffany that would be

430
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: effect like product. Yes, yeah, exactly. Uh. As he said

431
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: at the top of the show, Nate describes himself on

432
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: Twitter at Nate underscore Tys as a life journeyman and

433
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: he's all done that. Randy ray shio for life. What

434
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: is the Randy ratio? Uh, you know, typical with my

435
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: dad fashion. You know, he always has great ideas, he

436
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 1: just doesn't know how to sell them. So, you know,

437
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: he had a great thought like, get the ball to

438
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: the best player on the team, Randy Moss. If we

439
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 1: do this, we're gonna win the game. It was almost

440
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: like the running back carry stat that we've now realized

441
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 1: this kind of But he on his open press conference

442
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: decided to tell the rest of the league what his

443
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 1: plan was. Let's skipping Randy Moss the ball forty percent

444
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: of the time. So there was a name for it.

445
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 1: He thought that the Randy race, and that became many

446
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: plot lines. Your dad really provided more. Um I was

447
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 1: at Pro Football Talk for part of it. I mean

448
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 1: he provided more content than just about any coach and

449
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 1: he just can't help himself, and it's yeah, exactly no,

450
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 1: And I know he was excited. He probably came up

451
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: with that name, and I like a little think tank.

452
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: I've never actually realized who came up with that name,

453
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: but I was. I was with the rest of the

454
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 1: world during that press conference. But I understood why he

455
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: was doing it. But maybe how he approached the idea

456
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: might have been a little if. I'm sure he took

457
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: out the pencil for behind the Ear and jotted it

458
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: down as neon as he came up with Randy Ratio.

459
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, yeah, that's a winner. Mind's mechanical. So

460
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: I realized that I've become I've become my dad. Is

461
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: that not my cheek? If you ever look at all

462
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: his old pictures? I go, yes, So if you you'll

463
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: see pictures of him, he'll be sitting there just like,

464
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: not his cheek, and I'm like, I'm not like my dad,

465
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: and then my aunts from the pictures side by side

466
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: of bus and I'm just like, oh, yeah, this is good.

467
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: This is good. I love this. I just hope the

468
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: weight game stays off right. So, Nate, you are you're

469
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: really uh, you know the game you understand the game. Obviously,

470
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: you come from a coaching family, You played the game,

471
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: and you're really good at breaking down tape, and we

472
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: thought it would be fun to talk to you about

473
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: some of the twenty nineteen guys from last year. But

474
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: I wonder to start with a veteran and start with

475
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, who this is an important year obviously for Car.

476
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: I think you have some thoughts about him entering this

477
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: season that we're interested to hear on the show. But

478
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: I also want to play. Something that went down just

479
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: yesterday in a Zoom meeting between or a Zoom press

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00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: conference between Car and uh Raiders reporters. Here's what Car

481
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: had to say about the idea of playing this season.

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Speaker 1: Are opting out. I have a lot to prove to myself,

483
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: I have a lot to prove to some more organization.

484
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna being complete. Honestly, I'm tired of being disrespected,

485
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: so there was no question I was gonna play this year. Well,

486
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: you know, most athletes are gonna always find something to

487
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: motivate them. I don't know if you can say it

488
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,719
Speaker 1: every year that you're being disrespected. You know, before you

489
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: used to coach, you used to know, wou be an

490
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: offensive coach for so you watched him. So let's see

491
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: a guy that you know, he he noticed people talking.

492
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean he could be talking about his owner or

493
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 1: his coach. They kind of disrespected Mark Davis essentially said publicly,

494
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: I'd rather have Tom Brady exactly. And that's that's the thing.

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00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: It's like a lot of these athletes, they look for

496
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 1: any motivation they can get, you know, when you're already

497
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: paid here. So the first I feel like being around

498
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: Derek that first goal and I think a lot of

499
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: players goals and I'm just gonna be blunt about it

500
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: to get that second contract, you know, get you know,

501
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: get off the rookie deal and get paid. I mean really,

502
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: And I think that's what a lot of his motivation

503
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: early on, not just that he wanted to win m VP.

504
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: He wanted those things. And I think now he was like,

505
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: oh that's not good enough. So his motivation has made changed,

506
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: and it's now it's all I'm being disrespected. I did

507
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 1: all that. But it's also one of those things is

508
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: that NFL is is you got what have you done

509
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: from me lately? I mean it's the ultimate league in that.

510
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: So it's you know, it's it's his way to find motivation,

511
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: but he also have to prove it. So I'm trying

512
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: not to like disavow with our go against what Derek

513
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: is saying, but you kind of have to prove it. Well,

514
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,239
Speaker 1: we're putting you in enough spot here. You're talking right

515
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: off the bat. We're talking about a guy who um

516
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: who's blocked Dan and I on Twitter in the past famously.

517
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: We had to bring him on our show UM for

518
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: his well David David, his brother had a broker apiece

519
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 1: with Derek on our show to get Greg and I unblocked.

520
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: So it can be it could be dicey sometimes to

521
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: talk criticism positive or negative. It does seem like a

522
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: guy who hears the criticism a little bit. I think

523
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: that's fair and I and I also think he is

524
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: coming off the second best season I would say as

525
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: a pro probably where he feels like he established himself

526
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: again as a top guy, and yet there is still

527
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: a feeling Nate, and I don't want to put you

528
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 1: in tooth top a spot because I know you, you

529
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: know him and everything, but I think football Twitter has

530
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: stills a lot of doubts on him and probably why

531
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: it is because of the style that he plays. And

532
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: to me, the reason why he doesn't inspire a lot

533
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: of people is because he plays a very safe style

534
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: and you sometimes watch them and you say make you know,

535
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: try make the throw down field. Don't always just take

536
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: the check down so quick. I think John Gruden gets

537
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: frustrated about that. Do you think that's a fair criticism?

538
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: Is that part of his game is as something his

539
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: coaches have had to deal with him that like he

540
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: plays a little too close to the vest sometimes. Absolutely,

541
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: And I think that's a great, great point, and that's

542
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: with a lot of them. Is almost you have to

543
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: take away his safety valth you have to just go like, hey,

544
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: we are throwing this post. I'll just make something up.

545
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: We are throwing this post like this is why we're

546
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: throwing it. He's a guy that when he wants to attack,

547
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: everything has to be perfect, which is not what It's

548
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: never gonna be perfect in the NFL. It just is.

549
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: And you have to throw off platform, you have to

550
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: throw up side arm, you have to just you have

551
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: to take a hit in the chin as you're throwing it.

552
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be where you sit there like a

553
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: statue and throw deep. It's just you don't get those

554
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: Drew Bledzell moments anymore or not as much. Uh, the

555
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: game's changed. And I think for him is that he

556
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: thinks it has to be perfect to throw those and

557
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: so you almost have to take it away from and

558
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: go like, hey, we're throwing this, and we're throwing this,

559
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: you've got nothing underneath. You gotta chuck it. And I

560
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: think when that happens he does. I think sometimes when

561
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: he knows he has the safety valve, he's like, I'm

562
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 1: not gonna throw this pick that might get picked off.

563
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check it down and get six yards. Hey

564
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: I got six yards. But it's like, yeah, that was

565
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: a fine play. But sometimes where you want the great place,

566
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: you want the difference maker, play those six plays a

567
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: game that win you games. I mean, that's what football

568
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: really comes out to it. Sixty plays on each side

569
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: really comes down about time or side of the place

570
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: really changed the game. And I think for him it's

571
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: like he thinks he's doing the right thing, but you

572
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: need to emphasize you need to take it away from him,

573
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: or you need to be you need to be kind

574
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: of blunted with him and go, no, we don't want

575
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: that because he honestly just doesn't think he's doing the

576
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: wrong thing. And I think that's why he gets frustrated.

577
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: But I as a coach and being in those rooms

578
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: with them, it is frustrating from a coaching perspective because

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Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we got eighty yards there,

580
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: but a touchdown to a lot better, isn't it? Like

581
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: you know, and I and again, I just don't think

582
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: he thinks he's doing the wrong thing, and you you

583
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: have to protect him in a different way, you know,

584
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: like Deshaun Watson, you protect him by maybe not having

585
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: him throws so deep and giving him a safety vale

586
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: and going, hey, check it down, let's save yourself about

587
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: twelve hits this game. For him, it's opposite. It's like, hey,

588
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: you have no checkdown, throw deep, like make a play

589
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: with Let's do something. Because he's never gonna add lit either.

590
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: That's the other thing that's really frustrating I think with

591
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: Derek um and I get it from a Famaist perspective,

592
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: and the coaching perspective sometimes is he's a pretty good athlete,

593
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: but he never uses it. He's never gonna add live.

594
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: You a play and off schedule place like he is.

595
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: He is a old school pocket quarterback in an athletic body.

596
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: So it's kind of he just like he just doesn't

597
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: have that mindset where he's like he wants to sit

598
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: from the pocket and dissected like a dissect. He thinks

599
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: that is what it is. He really needs to get

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00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: let it loose and maybe run around and try and

601
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: make a guy make a play or just um add

602
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: little play and just you know, the quasi scrambled drills

603
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: that like Aaron Rodgers does or a lot of quarterbacks

604
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: to these days, my homes does. When he does them,

605
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: I call it the maddened drop back where he just

606
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: kids falling backwards and then play you know, but he's

607
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: you know where you're just holding down on the downstick

608
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: on the left stick, just all right, get away from

609
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: the Russian's throwing. But he has the arm to do that.

610
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: That's a whole another story. But Derek doesn't have those

611
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: adlete moments and that's kind of frustrating. Where this league

612
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: is headed. Now, where our league is headed is how

613
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: quarterbacks making moves with their legs and their arm, and

614
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: this idea that he has that in him to not

615
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: unlock that I can imagine why it would be so

616
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: frustrating for a coaching staff, whether it was you or

617
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: the recurrent one. Yeah. And and that's the thing. I mean,

618
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: he's he almost has a hundred starts at this point.

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00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean, we gotta get to the point where it

620
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: is what it is. He is what he is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: a hundred starts is a hundred starts. That's a lot

622
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: of starts in the NFL. It's not two seasons and

623
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: it would be okay, yeah, but I mean we're on

624
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: the third offensive staff. Uh, he almost has a hundred

625
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: starts now. And that and I'm not taking away Derek

626
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: did have his second best year last year. He did

627
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: play really well last year. It's just it's he is

628
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: where he is, and I think whatever coach is coaching

629
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: m is going to be frustrated at some of those aspects,

630
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: and fans for that matter. Yeah. I mean, and Derek

631
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: Carr is a good study of the fact that you know,

632
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: quarterbacks on We're seeing certain quarterbacks that in year two

633
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: they look like they've arrived, they're fully developed, they're changing football.

634
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: Derek Carr is um. You know, he may feel disrespected.

635
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: He's just lower tier for me on that front. But

636
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: if you look at this nine team class and I'm

637
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: just you know, I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna let you

638
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: decide where you think the answer to this is because

639
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: I have my own opinions. But we've got guys like

640
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and and uh Patrick Mahomes who year two,

641
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: they just blow up the league. When you look at

642
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: this cast of characters that were drafted to drafts to go, who,

643
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: in your mind, um can make the jump as soon

644
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: as week one, week two, week three this year and

645
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: become the guy that everyone is talking about. I mean

646
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: Aaron answer answers Kyler, but he already kind of showed that.

647
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: But I actually looking and reviewing these guys again. I'm

648
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: becoming a bigger, bigger fan every day of Daniel Jones,

649
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: which I was with everybody else with that draft last year.

650
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: We're watching it and I'm in a preface this I'm

651
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: gonna cop out a little bit. So I was with

652
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: the a F the year before. So I watched none

653
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: of these guys in college other than some TVs you

654
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: know where I'm just watching Front Office, right, Yeah? Yeah?

655
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: What was you were the Atlanta Thrashers allegence. I wish

656
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: we were the Thrashers. Act. I saw my purple starter jacket,

657
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: so uh, I'll maybe over that next time. But yeah, yeah,

658
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: and so I Daniel Jones though it's like I just

659
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: keep watching bad Greg. We talked a couple of times

660
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: about him, but it is I like him so much

661
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: more than I did last year, Like when I was like,

662
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: really this guy, you know, yeah, he has some town

663
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: I see. I get it, like I get him as

664
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: a first rounder. I did see that, but a top

665
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: ten pick, no, And now I'm kind to get it.

666
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: Like he does a lot of nice things. And I

667
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: mean there's a couple of notes like I wrote down

668
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: just rewatching them. I mean it's, yeah, the first thing

669
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: I said, it's better than I thought he'd be. But

670
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: he's tough. I mean he's like he goes downfield when

671
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: there's pressure in his grill. He like that does not matter.

672
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: Pressure does not phase him. And we just touched upon

673
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: a second ago is that's what this league is. You're

674
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: not gonna get the pocket moments and or the statue

675
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 1: moments anymore. You just don't. You get him like twice

676
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: a game. Everything is you have to move, you have

677
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: to take. You have to take a hit. You just

678
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: have to be tough at the quarterback position nowadays, and

679
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: that's where these big athletic guys are like the Donalds

680
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: of the world, um, the Joneses of the world. This

681
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: is why these guys are so great. They can take

682
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: these hits. And I mean, I don't want to say

683
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: like they shouldn't take twenty hits a game, but they

684
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: can take these full on blitzes because the pressures are

685
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: so much different these days and so much better these days.

686
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: But was just going off of what we said about Derek.

687
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones can addlet he can do those off platform throws.

688
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: He can make the funky throws. I just posted a

689
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: clip of him on The Naked where Michael Bennett just

690
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: came straight at him and he was taking a shot

691
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: he threw and Dan Jones through the ball almost like underhand,

692
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: but he completed it. But those are the throws you

693
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: have to make. It's not gonna be perfect over the top,

694
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: and you know, he's a good athlete. I just think

695
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: the thing with him is he's still learning to anticipate.

696
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: And you know, a guy who has a lot of starts,

697
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: I thought maybe he'd be a little better at that.

698
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: But I think for him, he's just gauging his own arm,

699
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: his own talent about what he can get away with.

700
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: So I think sometimes he's no. I was gonna say,

701
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: I wonder what's gonna happen if he does break out

702
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 1: this year and uh, like how people do mental gymnastics,

703
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: not to give Dave Gentelman any credit for it, I'm

704
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: just wondering how that can't keep doing those gymnastics at

705
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: that point. It's true because I think I'm I I've

706
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: had this like longest dating um you know article which

707
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 1: I think might come out this week on on this

708
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: class of nineteen, and Jones was the guy who who

709
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: surprised me the most just in terms of the style

710
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: that he was because he's a hard guy. Had to

711
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: compare anyone too. To me, it seems like he's athletic eli,

712
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: which maybe it's like too easy because he was like

713
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: a you know, it was a Giant's quarterback. But he's

714
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: like athletic in that right. But he doesn't have it.

715
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a big arm. He he does not

716
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: have a big arm for an NFL starter, He's probably

717
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: got less than average and but he is not afraid

718
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,479
Speaker 1: to make a throw. Um. And he was the guy

719
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: that just had way more wow factor of all the

720
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: rookies from last year than I ever expected. I thought

721
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: he had more just like holy cow plays in the

722
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: last five or six weeks of the season than any

723
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: of the rookies or even like the class of a

724
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: team type of guys. Now, he made a ton of

725
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: mistakes too, and he was under a lot of pressure. Um.

726
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: I think he had the second highest rate of pressure

727
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: and Donald was was the highest in terms of like

728
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: they had the worst offensive lines in terms of pressure.

729
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: But the thing I was impressive, like unlike car, like

730
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: you mentioned, he did create a lot. He made a

731
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: lot of big plays, and you hope it's a little

732
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: easier to coach the aggressiveness out of him. Another comparison

733
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: to me could be, you know, a young Jamis Winston

734
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: or you or Ryan Fitzpatrick, but a bigger, stronger, more

735
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: athletic Fitzpatrick and those guys kind of never turned down

736
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: that aggressiveness, you know, for better or worse. You know,

737
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick is a fun guy to watch, but he's been

738
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: up and down. Jamis Winston never really turned it down,

739
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: But man if if Jones is as smart as everyone um,

740
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: you know, you know, seems to be in terms of

741
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: eventually he's gonna pick things up, you would expect that

742
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: to get better in year two, three four, and I

743
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: thought like, Okay, maybe he's not gonna be a top

744
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,479
Speaker 1: five guy, but he kind of looked like he could

745
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: be a borderline top ten type of guy, and like,

746
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: look that's what you want, you know, Like that's that's

747
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: a lot better than everyone I think expected when he

748
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: was coming out. Let me ask you about somebody else, um,

749
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: because this is somebody that second round pick and I

750
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: got Broncos Twitter after me for months now. I'm not

751
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,439
Speaker 1: as sold on Drew Lock based on what we saw

752
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: on the end of the season. I know he did

753
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: some good things, but the fact that John l he

754
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: thinks he found his guy, uh moving forward, seems a

755
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: little bit presumptuous to me. What have you seen from

756
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: Drew Lock? And so it's going off with Greg just

757
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: said about Jones being so smart and everything. They ran

758
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: a real offense with him last year, And I'm gonna

759
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: dovetail this with my lock. When I'm gonna talk about Lock,

760
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: is they ran an actual offense. He was making checks, kills,

761
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: he's doing protection stuff. It looked like a guy in

762
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: year two as opposed of your one. It did mentally.

763
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: Now we talked about lock block, seemed like day one

764
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: rookie installed, especially the Chargers game his first start, which

765
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: I totally get. It's his first start, Okay, I get it.

766
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: I I could see the coaches just going, hey, let's

767
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: take the load off of him, let's make it easy

768
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: on him, which is get his feet wet a little bit.

769
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: You would just hope, you know, I get it. He

770
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: was hurt, he missed, you know, the first half of

771
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: the year and probably didn't get a lot of reps.

772
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: But you would hope a guy with so many starts

773
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: in college would maybe have a little more apted two

774
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: for a playbook at that point. Um. But that that's

775
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: what it was, and that's what I have to figure out.

776
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: What lock so might answer is tvd um. But he

777
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: was always looking at his wrist band, like there was

778
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: a lot of like, well you would be too, Greg,

779
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I know out there and like you know, lady,

780
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: But he made you think even though like there was

781
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: kind of basic and he was, there was a lot

782
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: of confusion. He he did make plays. He did. And

783
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: that's the thing with him is he has that willingness

784
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: to make a play, which again is I'm never That

785
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: is a huge trait. It really is, guys, that and

786
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: being tough as a quarterback are huge traits. Willingness to

787
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: take a risk. It really is. You don't want the

788
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: guy to throw five picks because okay, that might be great,

789
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: but that might also just mean he might be not

790
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: throwing at ten times down the field like when you

791
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: want him to. But with with Lock, it's one of

792
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: those things. Yeah, like you said, you're looking at his

793
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: risk a lot. The place that he you can tell

794
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: he's run before the spacings, the curl flat hank also

795
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: known as good. He's actually progressing. He's going one to

796
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: two good good every week. In the NFL, your game

797
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: plan is gonna be very opponent based. You know, it's

798
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: gonna change every week. There's gonna be certain adjustments you

799
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: have to make everybody. Those are the places he struggled with.

800
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: I think for those places he was like, Okay, I'm

801
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: sorry to fishing my hair. I hate looking at myself.

802
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: Um So it's one of those things where uh, I

803
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: just took that shower grect and it's one of those

804
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: like he's like, do I need to like get get

805
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: showered for this? It's YEA, trust me. It was like

806
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: it don't we that was useless? Um yeah, I know.

807
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: I was like trying to give a shout out like

808
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: yeah whatever. But but you know, with with with Lock,

809
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: with some of that stuff, it was just like if

810
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: it was a new play. You can tell is a

811
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: new play because he's looking where not where he's supposed

812
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: to be looking. He is like totally wrong side of

813
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: the field. Like it's like stuff like I'm not saying

814
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: I got no everything what's going on. I'm not in

815
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: those meeting rooms, but you can tell. And it's one

816
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: of those things that's what we have to figure out

817
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: as the chicken or the egg. Is it the coaching

818
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: staff making easy on him or is it him being

819
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: a slow learner. And I have known nothing about your lock,

820
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: so I do not want to say his don or anything,

821
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: but he does do though he does have some wild moments.

822
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: But it is one of those things I have to

823
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: he's tv D. I mean, we just don't have enough

824
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: on them at this point. And I hate copying out

825
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: like that great first appearance Nate. Finally, Nate, what, um,

826
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: what would your thoughts be on Dwayne Haskins. Where do

827
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: you stand on in By the end of this season,

828
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: assuming there is a season, do you believe the Washington

829
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: Football club will feel like they have their intrenched franchise

830
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: guy or will be new vera in Washington include finding

831
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: a new quarterback. Uh, you know, I I'm not as

832
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: high on him as maybe as Lock a little bit. Uh.

833
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: Haskins isn't a great athlete. Uh. And you know he

834
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: has some footwork stuff that really throws me off. He

835
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: makes it work like he'll just it looks like his

836
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: feet go dead right before he's about to throw it,

837
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: like all sudden. It's just like he just stops moving

838
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 1: his feet and throws it like this, and it's like, Okay,

839
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: that came out nowhere. Uh he needs again. I just

840
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, we can cut paste, copy and paste

841
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: my way or bad? Is that I don't know. I

842
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: don't know that it leads to inconsistency. So some guys

843
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: make a like my home. My homes doesn't have great feet.

844
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: He has unbelievable flexibility and can create torque from angles,

845
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: but you can't coach that, you know, it's not I'm

846
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: not gonna go hey, watch my homes. Okay, now you

847
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: do that, says some high schooler. You know, but I

848
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't show Haskins because I would be like, no, I

849
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: don't want you to do that either, because his feet

850
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: just kind of go dead and he's like the ball

851
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: goes out. It works, but whatever. But again a copy paste.

852
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: Some of the lock talk is that he needs more reps.

853
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: He's he came out as a sophomore. He doesn't have

854
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: a lot of starts. That offense from a house state

855
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: is extremely QB friendly passing game wise. That's why the

856
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: receive yours get to put a lot on them in

857
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: that offense and those Urban Myer offenses, they have a

858
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: lot of adjustments, a lot of reads. The interception you

859
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: saw justin fields throwing the playoffs, it's because he was

860
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: waiting to see what adjustment receiver made, and an adjustment

861
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: that receiver second guests himself and build out of it,

862
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: and that's why the interception happened in that playoff game.

863
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: So that's why you see some of do the Hio

864
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: State receivers take a bigger leap in the NFL because

865
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: it's kind of easy when now I don't have to adjust.

866
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: I can just oh, I just run a fourteen year

867
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,479
Speaker 1: grow up. Cool. I don't have to like read cover

868
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: two and read this. Oh that's easy, you know. And

869
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: I think that the quarterback on the flip side of

870
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: that is the quarterback doesn't has a lot that they

871
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: have to worry about. It's just, hey, we have a

872
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: really good player when I'm getting open, you know, that's

873
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: I'm totally like, just put it in a box. There's

874
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: more to it. But that's why he doesn't have a

875
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: lot of real quote unquote reps. And so he had

876
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: to starts last year in a turmoil situation. So this

877
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: year is basically could be his rookie year all over.

878
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: And and I think I'm high on Scott Turner. I

879
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: think he is gonna do a nice job. Um and

880
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: they have an ex receiver and scary Terry, so you know,

881
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have some pieces, but he needs

882
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 1: he needs some stuff, and he's learning a new offense.

883
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: I think that's been under an under soul thing with

884
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: lock too and with Daniel Jones. Thinking about this rookie

885
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: classes like Pat Shermer really gonna come in there and

886
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: like give him, give Drew Lock a schematic advantage, probably not.

887
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: So that's a that's a guy at best. You're hoping, well,

888
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I mean, you're just hoping that he's

889
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: I think Pat Shermer at this point. You're hoping he's

890
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: a he's a solid coach, but he's not gonna be like, Hey,

891
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: this is the guy that suddenly just turns you great.

892
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: He's just gonna be You're hoping it's the middle of

893
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: the road, but you're it's a new coach. Um Jones,

894
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: says Jason Garrett Um Scott Turner. You know with Washington

895
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: the one thing like Haskins didn't show as much early

896
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: and so then you worry about the numbers. Like Lock

897
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: did some things where it's like he avoided sex really well,

898
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: he avoided negative plays. He made some place whereas Haskins,

899
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: like you didn't see. I know it's a little all

900
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: over the place, but when you talked about um Haskins

901
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: coming from that offense, it actually makes me think of

902
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray a little bit. And I know PFF got

903
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: like a little grief that they ranked Kyler Murray going

904
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: into this season and they didn't really have him very

905
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: high last year in terms of how he played. Despite

906
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: the numbers, they actually had him significantly lower than like

907
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and was kind of in the in the

908
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: area of lock. He's a tough guy to evaluate sometimes too,

909
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: because like the the the skill sets there, it's obvious

910
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: he's so athletic and his arm is so good. But

911
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: when you watch that offense last year, you know there's

912
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: a like that's like watching a college offense in some

913
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: way that like most of the time it was just

914
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: get rid of the ball, a five yard throw in

915
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: the first few seconds and that was it, and you

916
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: could go. You could go a few games where Kyler

917
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: Murray wasn't really doing a lot more than that, which

918
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: is why I think PFF probably graded him low, which

919
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: it feels unfair, But like, like, do you think there's

920
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: any warrant to like some concern about that when it

921
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: comes to Tyler Murray? Uh not? I mean, Kyler makes

922
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 1: everyone better, that is not that was not a talented

923
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: roster last year, and he made him look he was.

924
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: He made him competitive every single game. And the thing

925
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 1: with Kyler is not only is he an unbelievable athlete,

926
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: and that throws one of the prettiest deep balls in

927
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: the league already and could make all three level throws.

928
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: Is that he knows what he is. Um, he's the

929
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: best slider in the league right now. He knows how

930
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: to get down quick. I know that's such a random

931
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: trait to have, but he is. I mean, the baseball

932
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: background comes into play. He said he knows how to

933
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: not take a hit, which is a huge skill too.

934
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: For his body type. He can. That's very a huge

935
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 1: thing for him when with that offense. Though, it really

936
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: impressed me to Cliff because I'm not gonna I'm not

937
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I'm with a lot of I'm younger, but

938
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: i still have some of that older NFL mindset, Like

939
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 1: I'll believe it when I see it kind of thing.

940
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: You get a guru every year. So I've seen Sony

941
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: Guru's quote on quote burnout after eighteen months and then

942
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: you never hear from her again. I mean, you guys

943
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: know that too, uh. And with Cliff, what really impressed

944
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: me was he's not just an aread coach. He's a

945
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: very creative coach. He is willing to adapt, which was

946
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: I thought gave him a lot more cred credibility than

947
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: I was going into the year. I thought, no matter what,

948
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: he was gonna stick with ten and eleven personnel and

949
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: just try and just feed his head against the wall

950
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: by passing of all six seven yards like you're just saying.

951
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: But he they played New Orleans. They got blitzed out

952
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,479
Speaker 1: on every third down because they had to throw hot.

953
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 1: The New Orleans defense figured out their all third out package.

954
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: They can every every single throw out. They had to

955
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: throw hot. It was third and ten, they're getting five

956
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: yards done, they're off the field. Saint just ran them

957
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: out of the building and they But what happened after that?

958
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: They adjusted, and I think with Cliff what I was

959
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 1: really going back. I mean, I know we're talking about Kyler,

960
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: but Cliff is very He's creative enough to know what

961
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: he has. They went from a ten personal team to

962
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: a twelve and thirteen personnel team. They were in wing

963
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: set to two tight ends at the end of the year,

964
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: like the last six weeks that's all they were running.

965
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: Not all they're running, but that was a big chunk

966
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: of what they're running. He was like, this is what's working,

967
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 1: this is what we are. They became a really good

968
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: run team and it's just that impressed me a lot

969
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: with Cliff and then that's gonna baby. Kyler is with

970
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: the perfect guy like Lamar's with Greg Roman. Perfect. We're good,

971
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: Breezes with Sean Payton, We're good, like just that perfect

972
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: matchup coach, skiing and player, and I think Kyler's in

973
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: that perfect situation. He's just a one of one guy.

974
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: You need a coach that knows how to work with him.

975
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: You just it's just like my homes. It's not teaching

976
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 1: tape like. He just does his own thing and then

977
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: you just hopefully control it. That's good organized chaos, Nate Tys,

978
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: You've said it all. It's so much Derek Carr. You know,

979
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: is Na going to get a caller? Text him Derek?

980
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 1: Maybe that's possible at this point, probably the second year. Guys,

981
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: I feel like we're more enlightened because of Nate. And

982
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: check him out again on Twitter at Nate Underscore Tys

983
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: where he's chopping up the film and with a lot

984
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: of good insight as you as you can hear, and

985
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: we'd love to have you on again sometime May. Thank

986
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: you for joining us, Thank you guys for having me there.

987
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: We goes well, next time, you know, was worth it?

988
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: Really you had to take it anyway at some point

989
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: I think you should. I mean I have done a

990
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: few of these shows without taking a shower? Have you not?

991
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 1: From from the beginning of Corona until now? I don't

992
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: mean like walting into the studio in years past, but

993
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: been on showered once or twice as long as like,

994
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 1: have you done it after one of your nude workouts

995
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: in the backyard? Like do you go straight from a

996
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: beach body workout to the show? Or is there showering

997
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: between those that has not occurred? Nor that That's not

998
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: really like a strategy that I'm like hoping to to

999
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: bring to the to the show either. Anyways, Um, all right,

1000
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: that was good. So we you know, ran a little

1001
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: short on time there. Would love to get some Minshewell,

1002
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: you to Minshew a question, but um, you know, I

1003
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: I'll save it for the second time that we meet him.

1004
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: The Minshew does get kind of forgotten in this uh

1005
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: this kie not by me, since he had like better

1006
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 1: numbers basically everyone. He exceeded almost what every other rookie

1007
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 1: from that class did. I'm with, well, it's just forget

1008
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: totally dismissed. It's like, what a year it was. You know,

1009
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: we know he was good and we haven't had a

1010
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: lot of d Jones docky. He deserved it before we go.

1011
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: You know. At the top of Monday's show, Um, Greg,

1012
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: you would. I was happy you did too. You would

1013
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: pointed out that Canada represents a pretty solid level of

1014
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: listenership number three and number three UK. To be fair,

1015
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: it's a pretty big gap, but Canada's a strong three,

1016
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: right and that is and then I, you know, I

1017
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: got you know again, these colors don't run. I got

1018
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: a little excite. It started talking about the old US

1019
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: US of A and I, you know, left me with

1020
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: a bad taste of my mouth because I love Canada too.

1021
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to, uh, at the end of

1022
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: the show, share my the top ten things that I

1023
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: love about Canada, if that's okay with you guys. Number ten,

1024
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: the national anthem, It's nice, little bop is the kid

1025
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: solid one? I mean, if that's ten, you know this

1026
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 1: is gonna be a good list. Number nine, everything about

1027
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: the Sky Don't the fact that it was the first

1028
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 1: retractable ruth, the fact that there's a hotel in Center Field,

1029
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: where people can do it during a game. Joe Carter

1030
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: WrestleMania six, Hogan Verse Warrior and the eighty nine opening

1031
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: festivities on YouTube. Check it out. Number eight that one

1032
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: tragically Hipsie the I own Nice. What what was that? Mark?

1033
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: I know we're only at number eight. I mean, like,

1034
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: let's that was a long seven number. It was a

1035
00:52:54,200 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: beef number nine. Seven interesting political leaders, Rob Ford, you

1036
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: know that guy was due the hunk Prime Minister that

1037
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: looks like handsome Hank Nice. Six Drake Drake's good. I

1038
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: like Drake. Five the Kids in the Hall. Four John

1039
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 1: Candy rest in peace, buried right here in Culver City.

1040
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: Three Bill Hartman, also gone too soon. The greatest SNL

1041
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: cast member all ever. Number two Vancouver. I've never been there,

1042
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: but everyone says it's really clean. And the number one

1043
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 1: the number one thing that I love about Canada. That

1044
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: one part of the Bear Naked Lady song. And one

1045
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: that's Bianna that's number one, one of their best fans.

1046
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: I mean you could argue, you could argue, like Chicken

1047
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: each China, the Chinese Chicken is even more iconic than

1048
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: than not even close to me, maybe to you, and

1049
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: I respect that if that's your call, but to me

1050
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: better than I I literally almost went on a bar

1051
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: naked ladies cruise um many years back. I literally that

1052
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: was my favorite band for a while. And let me say,

1053
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: two of you, the two of you this whole campaign,

1054
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: I get it. Pick a country and then all these No,

1055
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm not letting you onto Estonia corner. I am going

1056
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 1: to present my top ten Estonian elements on on Friday show.

1057
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 1: I had no strategy, non Canada on my side and tweets.

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Speaker 1: My brother went to mcguil, I made a number of trips.

1059
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 1: Great place to visit, especially when you're in high school

1060
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: and your brothers in college. Forget about it. Montreal is

1061
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: an amazing place. Rufus Wainwright. You know Laurent DuVernay tardif

1062
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 1: I mean you know Michael J. Fox Canadian like the French,

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00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: the Jews, the French Canadie d and Jews are a

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Speaker 1: special are a special breed that I'm just I'm a

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00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 1: big fan of Dan. How how many times has as

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Speaker 1: Gregg mentioned Canada in the ten years that we've known

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Speaker 1: him before this week? First time this week I actually

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Speaker 1: at podcast as unless you mel you mentioned mcguil, You

1069
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: mentioned mcguil. But beyond that, you know, you know, I

1070
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: would just say something feels, something's in the air, and

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00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: I sense it, and I trust my intuitions. When these

1072
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 1: things double up like this how personal campaign, there is

1073
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 1: no thought because I don't trust it. I don't trust

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00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: just nice things coming from anyone on this show. Not

1075
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: just nice things do not That's not how this one.

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00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: I don't come up with a strategy. Can you drop

1077
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: a second before the show of like what America knows

1078
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 1: exactly what I'm talking about? This is a mess, you know?

1079
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: Do you know what I think Mark talking about? That

1080
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: came from a genuine place, It really did. Yeah, I

1081
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: mean I feel like a third part round. Yeah, I

1082
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: don't know. I love Canada. Canada first of all, like

1083
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: it happens three days after become a Toronto Blue Jays fan. Okay,

1084
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: like outshining that actually, like there are things that I

1085
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: really like about Canada. But I don't need to like

1086
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 1: waltz around telling ten thousand people about it. I it's

1087
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: in my heart and so my love for Canada, I

1088
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 1: don't need to, you know. And there's a good quote

1089
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: it's like you often betray yourself about what you notice

1090
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: in others. So you noticing that, like we're that you

1091
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: think we're like scheming to make a move before the show.

1092
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 1: It's absolutely troubling. It's a little it's it's it's actually

1093
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: deadly accurate. WHOA Anyway, I like Canada and I'm glad

1094
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 1: that I got that list out there, and I'm looking

1095
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: forward to the Estonia list from Mark. It's gonna be

1096
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 1: it is sincere. The only reason was because we're changing,

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00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: They're they're getting rid of our a Are publishing platform.

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00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: So I was getting some of those numbers before it's

1099
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: all gone, because I'm always thinking we might need these

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Speaker 1: numbers someday. I'm gonna go download all these numbers. And

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00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: then I saw I saw about Canada, and I was

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00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: like about Canada. Yeah, Greg, you fascinated me, Like the

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00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: things that you care about and don't care about. I

1104
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: would have guess you would have been the last person

1105
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: that I was like, I need to get to our

1106
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: metrics platform to download all the data before it gets wiped.

1107
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: I would have never thought that you would be millions

1108
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: of downloads every every month and people need to know

1109
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: and who knows, we might be in a spot where

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Speaker 1: we're gonna need that data because the NFL is like

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00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: to see you guys later. So that in our back pocket.

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Speaker 1: And how about our PR department get on board here

1113
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 1: and you know, publicize some of the stuff I see

1114
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: other Hey, this podcast got twenty thousand listeners last month. Like, um,

1115
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: excuse me, I've got a story you could tell if

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00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: you wanted to. Do we have a PR or is

1117
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: that like a me thing we have? All we worked

1118
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: in heavy and NPR media has a PR. You know,

1119
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: Andrew Howard does a great job, say our radio interviews

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00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: sometimes and and helping us out. He got Baldy for us,

1121
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: he got some of our guests. You know, Andrew Howard's

1122
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: a great man and a and a good Philadelphia sports fan.

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Speaker 1: I I think we work for a small boutique here

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00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: and you can't expect there to be a PR arm

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00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: and that's that supports us. You can't just can't expect

1126
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: that publicity too much to ask it's fair? All right?

1127
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,919
Speaker 1: All right? Well that was good. Um, we'll be back

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Speaker 1: on Friday with another show. And uh and sincerely, Mark,

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Speaker 1: I am looking forward to your stony Ac countdown. Is

1130
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: not this I I we don't need to dig back

1131
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: into it. I have learned, at age forty six to

1132
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: trust my intuition um, which rarely fails me, and so

1133
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but I'm not going to convince

1134
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: myself I'm wrong. I'm sticking to this. You never found

1135
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: out wrong because it's you know, that's up to you.

1136
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: Each show is its own planet. We're leaving this planet.

1137
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Speaker 1: None of these hard feelings will exist on Friday. We'll

1138
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: see you that there's hard feelings back. See you offended

1139
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: by my intuition, which is like precise and dead on.

1140
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do about that. Get out

1141
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: of here at the end of these shows are going

1142
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: wild lately, all right, signing off for the whole game.

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Speaker 1: I love you guys. Still fact Si