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Speaker 1: Who was the first person to bust your ass?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I can tell you that easy. Damn Williams,

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Speaker 2: Jazz will.

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Speaker 3: Bro Jersey Jersey when they was in the Maryland nowhere

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Speaker 3: they all that.

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Speaker 2: No, he was by himself at the time he first

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Speaker 2: got there. Oh my, I was like, what is how

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Speaker 2: many right the lefts?

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Speaker 1: Did he hit you with that bully?

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Speaker 2: Right? Like once? Who's this light skinned dude coming at

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Speaker 2: me like that? Jone was crazy, think like fifty two

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Speaker 2: or something like that. He got busy on us at

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Speaker 2: the crew. You probably have family, my mom saying he's

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Speaker 2: gonna investigate right yo.

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Speaker 4: You're chilling with the knuckleheads, Q Which and D Miles

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Speaker 4: we on location and my main man, Drew Good who

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Speaker 4: drew a k A d A go in the building

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Speaker 4: house like this but it's happening, you know. And we

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Speaker 4: got a special guest each starter all start. I man,

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Speaker 4: Kimba walk in the building with.

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Speaker 1: This is cute rich and D Niles and knuckleheads.

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Speaker 2: We coach a push up. That's when I knew. I

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Speaker 2: was like, this is.

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Speaker 4: Fact finder right here. This is a story that people

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Speaker 4: don't know.

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Speaker 2: Can't call me soft and you can't disrespect where I'm

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Speaker 2: from I did deal with a lot of losers and

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Speaker 2: that shit sucked and I got it crack.

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Speaker 1: We come from an authentic old jeek standpoint.

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Speaker 2: But it's always good vibe.

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Speaker 5: Yo.

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Speaker 1: What a y'all doing here?

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Speaker 5: I thought I was just coming over to watch the game,

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Speaker 5: and you guys got a microphone set up in the backyard,

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Speaker 5: And okay.

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Speaker 2: I liked it. I liked it. I liked that.

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Speaker 3: You went to school in Harlemah. What made you choose

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Speaker 3: Rice as a high school?

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Speaker 5: All?

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Speaker 2: For me? I really went there because one of my

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Speaker 2: friends went there. One of my friends who I grew

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Speaker 2: up from the Bronx, he was going to Rice. He

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Speaker 2: just he just kept telling me how how fun of

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Speaker 2: a school it was. It was an all boys school.

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Speaker 2: He just telling me how Yeah, all boys boys, Yeah, Lopez.

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Speaker 2: Did you know the history before you went?

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 2: I did. Yeah. I just knew how how much of

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Speaker 2: a powerhouse it was. I had a big name, and

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Speaker 2: I knew I wanted to go to play basketball, but

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Speaker 2: I just knew how many like players in the city.

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Speaker 2: It was ahead of me who was going there and

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Speaker 2: stuff like that, But I went anyway, and that worked

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Speaker 2: out for me. It was the best, one of the

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Speaker 2: best four years of my life. A bunch of point guards.

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Speaker 3: It seemed like New York just breaded point guards like

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Speaker 3: it was Kenny Sadlefield, Eric Barkley a few years before me.

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Speaker 3: My year it came out it was old Mars to leave.

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Speaker 2: Brown being from the Bronx going to Hallow.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't no barriers that you crossed like like they like,

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Speaker 3: he from the Bronx, he can't go Hall.

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Speaker 2: No, not really do that in New York? Have it

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Speaker 2: that Ruckers? Huh No, not really. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: I was. I was a hooper, so you know, you

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Speaker 2: kind of always get that respect a little bit. You

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Speaker 2: can go. Yeah, pretty much, I was.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 2: I was good. I was very I was fortunately. I

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Speaker 2: ain't gonna lie. I know a lot of dudes that

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Speaker 2: that went into into some problems. I was because I

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Speaker 2: was fortunately, I was. I got lucky. I ain't gonna

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Speaker 2: lie man. I got lucky because I used to have

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Speaker 2: to take the train to the bus home, trains to school,

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Speaker 5: Crazy, Yeah, I got, I got. It was a few

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Speaker 5: times I could have got. I could have got that

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Speaker 5: long way Pops put that hoop tape the pops to

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Speaker 5: come home to you feel.

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Speaker 3: What time in the morning you used to have to

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Speaker 2: Used to have to get up at seven catch to

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Speaker 1: Man, getting up at five thirty to get to the city.

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Speaker 2: It's not that bad that the Bronx and hallom ain't

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Speaker 1: It was like going from South to the West Side.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't It wasn't too too much.

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Speaker 3: Your homeboys used to clown you to be like, man,

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Speaker 3: you Harlem representing hall and you.

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Speaker 2: Could have went to a Bronx school. Nah, because everybody knows.

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Speaker 2: Everybody know about Rice. Yeah you're talking.

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Speaker 4: About like they like Man goes to one of them,

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Speaker 4: like New York.

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Speaker 1: They were cool kids and it wasn't you.

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Speaker 4: They ain't dealing with what the little me and west

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Speaker 4: where it's just like you know, like you go to

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Speaker 4: your neighborhood school or you being recruited and they might

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Speaker 4: talk bad to you like this, like that's the wild West.

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Speaker 2: Baby.

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Speaker 1: They trying. Everybody's trying to win, everybody going.

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Speaker 4: From different places. Everybody like we have he like ain't

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Speaker 5: Like, yeah, like people people, these people from Brooklyn went

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Speaker 5: to Rice. I got your teammates.

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Speaker 2: Like one of my teammates from Brooklyn, he went to

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Speaker 2: school in the Bronx, went to say the Raymonds, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. So it was that was normal,

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Speaker 2: wasn't the brom.

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Speaker 3: What was the craziest like street ball story, like Barrows

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Speaker 3: came together to come see and you was just like

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Speaker 3: you remember that moment?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, it was like two thousand and seven. Thing.

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Speaker 2: This was like the summer going into my junior year.

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Speaker 2: In Rucker Park, I was playing against White Chocolate from DC.

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Speaker 2: No White, they call him White from DC. He was

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Speaker 2: on battle grounds. I remember that. All I know is

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Speaker 2: he was talking so much trash, Like I didn't notice

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Speaker 2: before the game, but I like seeing like a little

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Speaker 2: highlight where he was like, yeah, we're gonna show this

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Speaker 2: young boy how the old guys rock out like something

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Speaker 2: like that. But I just know I'll kill him though,

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Speaker 2: Like what I was the young boy. This was in

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Speaker 2: Rucker Park fifty fifth I know I gave him. Me

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Speaker 2: and k Sad was on the same team. Actually we

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Speaker 2: won it that year. I was like sixteen. I think

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Speaker 2: I was like I think I was like one of

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Speaker 3: You got your you got your riverside Gauchos, you goucha

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Speaker 3: for sure, for sure.

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Speaker 1: All the rights players to go to the Gaucho A

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the majority riverside was dangerous.

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Speaker 1: We can't.

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Speaker 4: We bobbed them riverside riverside of Gaucho. They ask you

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Speaker 2: Who you is? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: One of what was cool they won river side?

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Speaker 3: Gotcha had them hitters, bro I'm talking about they coming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: How old were you when you got a chance to

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Speaker 3: play on the big court? Because I know it's like

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Speaker 3: all right, all right, guys play here, Scruggs player ball

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Speaker 3: us play on this court and they play on nothing

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Speaker 3: but this court.

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Speaker 2: How old you when you I probably was, like I

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Speaker 2: want to say, probably like my freshman year of high school.

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Speaker 2: So I was probably like fourteen something like that. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: who you've seen.

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Speaker 3: Out there that you was like nobody probably know this

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Speaker 2: Was like, man, I want to be like so and

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Speaker 2: so I think for me it was like K Sack

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Speaker 2: because K Sad is from the Bronx. Yeah, he from

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Speaker 2: where I'm from, so we'll always play with each other.

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Speaker 2: We always playing with each other and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: So kse sad, Dre Barrett, them dudes is from where

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Speaker 2: I'm from. So I always seen those guys. And Dre

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Speaker 2: Barrett even took me to work out with him one time,

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Speaker 2: like in Jersey, took me, came to pick me up

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Speaker 2: that's one of the one of the big homies, right.

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Speaker 5: I went to the I went through the Bronx one

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Speaker 5: time with sat like that was my first tool. That's

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Speaker 5: I was like, oh he went to the same school.

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Speaker 5: Sack went to his ABCD camp in ninety eight and

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Speaker 5: he was like, let's go across the bridge and we

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Speaker 5: was in a Jersey teen Nick New Jersey's like, let's

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Speaker 5: go in a tunnel of bridge. It was one of them.

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Speaker 5: And I remember we went to like this pizza shot

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Speaker 5: to have these flies in the spot. He's like this

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Speaker 5: the best one in town. And I was like, damn,

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Speaker 5: you know, like bxes grind me like you got you

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Speaker 5: got the damn flies all on the pizza and that's

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Speaker 5: the best spot. And I just remember him just we

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Speaker 5: experience because you know, I'm from Oakland, California. I ain't

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Speaker 2: The sound view that's where I'm from. He come canceled, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I think that's at the time. That was the sound

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Speaker 2: view where it was cracking over there.

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Speaker 5: And I had an opportunity as at Oakland, Oakland kid

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Speaker 5: to kind of see that back in the nineties, you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean. And so I know where you're from. Man,

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Speaker 5: you know that piece of shop I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. I mean, it's so many, so

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Speaker 2: many New York you got so many pieces.

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Speaker 3: I got a piece of my hat. I love me

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Speaker 3: some pizza boy. You know who I used to like

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Speaker 3: on the and One Circuit that's.

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Speaker 1: To Black Widow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was that black tough boy, tough he was

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Speaker 2: black out there tall, like.

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Speaker 3: I gotta to play against them. At Gacho's gym, we played.

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Speaker 2: With I'm supposed to play.

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Speaker 1: We went with Bib while.

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Speaker 3: He was doing the like mic thing and we supposed

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Speaker 3: to play that Rutger but it rained phone too and

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Speaker 3: he was on the other team. So I got out

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Speaker 3: there like I'm finna play with him and all that stuff,

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Speaker 3: and he like kind of almost ripped me. I was

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Speaker 3: north south in his ass, left and right. I just

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Speaker 3: didn't play with him. I ain't finna get out here

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Speaker 3: and play with you.

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Speaker 1: I played.

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Speaker 4: I played in that twice, like you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Both times it got rained out. The one time he

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Speaker 4: talking about with the like mic there. Then the other

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Speaker 4: time I went. I was with with Chris Gotti with murder,

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Speaker 4: and we were supposed to be uh playing at the Rutger,

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Speaker 4: but it got rained out. And I ain't got none

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Speaker 4: of the whole shaking banking that I will stricty buckets,

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Speaker 4: a forty piece walking, I'm gonna get ten.

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Speaker 2: Pins, put backs, all that.

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Speaker 4: But I ain't got not one shaking bank move for you.

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Speaker 4: If you're looking for that. I might get a dunk

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Speaker 4: or something, but it ain't about to be no party,

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Speaker 4: no none of that. I'm about to he hey, you

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Speaker 4: got a lot of buckets. May not have been no losing,

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Speaker 4: but I'm gonna get a buckets.

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Speaker 1: They like bucket too. Tell you what. I got an

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Speaker 5: like all right, twenty thousand. I was like damn. I

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Speaker 5: He said thirty thousand, like man, they're gonna kill me.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand how serious thing used to be because I.

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Speaker 4: Never forget, like when I finally went out there with

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Speaker 2: Yo.

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Speaker 5: There was like shock City here for twenty d you

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Speaker 3: Jay Z to play with jay Z, So I fenna

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Speaker 2: Right before I got ready to go, a blackout in

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Speaker 1: Remember that USA. The USA team was after the same time.

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Speaker 2: The whole city was blacked out. Crazy.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. But people don't realize how crazy that.

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Speaker 4: The atmosphere you had to do with the microphone walking

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Speaker 5: Happened, like oh baby, yeah, got and one cracking. That's

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Speaker 3: I mean all that street ball. If anybody ever killed

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Speaker 2: Nobody that you gave thirty and he had thirty two?

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Speaker 4: Name one of it, like the nastiest, like it might

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Speaker 2: It was like this, dude, we can't forget lancetough street ball,

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Speaker 3: Sebastian brought him out to Portland to play in the

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Speaker 2: Lance was he. I never never beat Lance in high school.

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Speaker 5: Restaurant was unbelievable. Me and Brown was at a restaurant

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Speaker 5: He was like seventh. He was like he next, he

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Speaker 1: That's classic New York.

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Speaker 4: I paid for the nixt Yo like any type of

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Speaker 4: like your son yo to Richester's son.

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Speaker 1: Yo, you gotta see my son. Yo, my son.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, all, like, who is your son? He's like, yo,

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Speaker 4: he's seven, he's seven. Like no, son, he's nice, Yo,

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Speaker 4: Like he's nice.

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Speaker 4: They'd be like, dude, real shuttle Words time that boy

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Speaker 3: I committed the same John strictly off just the New

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Speaker 2: They win everything.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, What made you choose you

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Speaker 2: Well, another school, another place that just had a lot

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Speaker 2: And he was like, if you come here, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: for my career, you know, just that grittiness, you know

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Speaker 2: was right. So you know, I was just a freshman,

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Speaker 4: So it worked out for me with you going And

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Speaker 4: and the Garden and we are seen it you every

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like making the boy fall,

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Speaker 4: Dude falling that big boy, light skinned kids made them fall,

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Speaker 4: nap like you know what I'm saying or something right

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, this kid is out here buggy fools,

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Speaker 4: Real playground style on the big stage though, Like like

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Speaker 4: how was that for you? Like when you get to

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Speaker 2: At it was crazy. I just always loved going home,

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Speaker 2: I've been there, we never beat Pitt. So I'm like,

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Speaker 2: stuff like that, but we fought that way back. Was

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Speaker 1: It was Okay, That's when I said this is a.

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Speaker 2: Bad Actually I actually had missed the shot. I missed

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Speaker 2: I mean that kind of made my career right there.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember the first time you played in the garden, Like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the first time I'm playing the gun. It was

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Speaker 2: We played against. It was Rice versus Saint Patrick's. I

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Speaker 2: The atmosphere was was unbelievable. It's actually a matchup between

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Speaker 2: He went to Louisville and him versus Corey Fisher who

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Speaker 2: It was crazy, crazy New York. Yeah crazy, but it'd

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about that championship run at JUCA that year

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Speaker 2: It was like it was like a story book.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't even but I still can't believe it. I

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Speaker 2: I think we lost like two out of our last

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Speaker 2: After the last Yeah, we was on the public for sure,

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Speaker 2: but we had we lost, like we was winning and

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Speaker 3: It's a privilege to have a nickname. It's an honor

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Speaker 3: nickname for the world to be calling you something. Cardiac Kimber, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: like that's that's one of the best ones out there

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Speaker 3: right there.

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Speaker 1: When did you get that?

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Speaker 3: When you start really hearing it and how do you

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Speaker 2: I got that when I had to shot against and

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Speaker 2: everybody like in the world, probably no more than anything,

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Speaker 2: but back home at Rucker Park they called me easy pass.

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Speaker 1: Y'all know, we got to stop, got to stop. I'm

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Speaker 5: I didn't know why they called it a freeway until

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Speaker 5: So that's what they called it, the free the easy Past.

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Speaker 1: That's like you like the name.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love it like like your doctor crazy.

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Speaker 2: I like that nickname a lot.

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Speaker 1: Either one you can't go wrong.

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Speaker 3: Do you think if y'all wouldn't have won the tournament,

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Speaker 3: you wouldn't went first round and draft?

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Speaker 2: I think I would have went first, But I think

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Speaker 2: I probabuld maybe yeah, yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 3: You think that people start really believing, like, oh that's something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. But even then, even then, I

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Speaker 2: he traded up for me. So you know, killer always

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Speaker 2: see another. He murdered, he got a lot of dead.

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Speaker 2: I know you he collected here. How did that field

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Speaker 2: to know?

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Speaker 4: Like you got picked by em and he moved up

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Speaker 4: to get you and did something like and then how how.

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Speaker 1: Is that feel?

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Speaker 2: It was crazy? My whole mindset changed. I'm just like

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Speaker 2: I got to give him everything. Mike believe in me

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Speaker 2: for as long as I'm here. I got to give

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Speaker 4: And then you on Jordan brand, like everything is a luxury.

445
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 4: Then you get to cheer with MJ. You know what

446
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,120
Speaker 4: I'm saying, like just talking about I know for us,

447
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 4: like when we came in, it was super early, and

448
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 4: then now it's like crazy in the game.

449
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 2: So it's like.

450
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,679
Speaker 4: Way, way, way just more stuff out there and just

451
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 4: way crazier things happening.

452
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 2: Just like how was that to be a part of Man,

453
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 2: It's it's a blessing. Man, Like, at first I wasn't

454
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 2: with him, so it took me a while to get

455
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 2: with the brand. But now I ain't got to buy

456
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:54,880
Speaker 2: no more Jay. That's all I wore. You know, through

457
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,679
Speaker 2: our college I was playing in jas and stuff like that.

458
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 2: So even when I was coming out, I was hoping

459
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 2: and praying I saw them, but it took some time.

460
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 2: But now, I mean, get everything early. We're going on trips.

461
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 2: So so what's your favorite retro to hooping? For me?

462
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 4: I love the thirteen thirteen, like my favorite Jordan like hoopy. Yeah,

463
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,679
Speaker 4: I felt like that was like like the most comfortable

464
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 4: I had different ones that I like like overall, like

465
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 4: that was like my.

466
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 2: Favorite shoot, just hooping tents. That's why I'm hooping it

467
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 2: right now. It's like the.

468
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Speaker 4: Last and seeing that, who I was gonna say, I

469
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 4: see you hooping them all the time.

470
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, the tennis, I mean those the most comfortable ones.

471
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 2: I got so many pass of them.

472
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 4: I feel like it's a cheat code for all of

473
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 4: the Charlotte players though, Like all right, they give out

474
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 4: the basic bomb whatever the.

475
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Speaker 1: Nikes they giving Jordan's out.

476
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 4: They get about team colors, all of this straight, like

477
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 4: you fly, like if you ain't got no shoe deal, no.

478
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,360
Speaker 2: No, all right, we're the only joint.

479
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 4: Like look, team year bags every thing, All Star game.

480
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 5: Jersey's a drop man like that, And I'm just playing

481
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 5: elevens even you know, I like the.

482
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Speaker 1: Elevens d moms. You know what. That's my favorite too, because.

483
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 5: Even if you have a bad game, you still look good.

484
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you look good.

485
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 2: By the way, that's a dope shirt you got on there.

486
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 2: Thanks bro.

487
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Speaker 4: For those who can't see, I'm rapping some new knucklehead swag.

488
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 2: Nobody can see you, man, this is a podcast.

489
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Speaker 4: Right right, Well, if you want to go check out

490
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Speaker 4: some of our swag. Head to the players Shop. You

491
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 4: can cop knuckleheads merch as well as some other cool

492
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Speaker 4: stuff from the Players Tribune.

493
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Speaker 2: Yo q, Where can I find the player Shop?

494
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Speaker 4: Go online to shop dot players Tribune dot com. That

495
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Speaker 4: shop dot players Tribune dot com.

496
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Speaker 3: That's dope. I know where I'm going after. But back

497
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 3: to what I was saying about myself. When I first

498
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 3: met Mike, I was like in tenth grade and I

499
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 3: went down to center board and I've seen him and

500
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 3: I was like I got bombed, and I'm like, man,

501
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 3: this is Michael Jordan. Then he was like cussing, like

502
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 3: I was just so like Michael Jordan's cuts, Like what's

503
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 3: you the funny that you was like, man, Michael Jordan's

504
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 3: do that?

505
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Speaker 1: Oh man?

506
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 2: Like you drinking soda every day.

507
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: All the time.

508
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: He talks somewhere his trash, like, oh man, I come in,

509
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 2: I go in the training room. He we just had

510
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 2: a game the night before. He like I had a

511
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 2: bad one too, Like damn, what the hell was that

512
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,239
Speaker 2: last night? And like what kind of game you had

513
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: last night? Like what you was doing you went up

514
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 2: night before? Like something like he always talking trash. That's

515
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 2: my god, man, go down to earth. Man. That's what

516
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 2: the world don't know.

517
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 4: He acts like, you know, the world don't know, looking

518
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 4: about like.

519
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: You're not like you act like you know, like you

520
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 1: want to and something right.

521
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 5: He is normal because I remember when when I first

522
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 5: met y'all at his camp back in Santa Barbara. I'm

523
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 5: talking about back back in the day and I was

524
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 5: walking back from the gym back to the dorms we

525
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 5: used to stay at and him and Rod Higgins pulled

526
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 5: up on me and they was all like, m J

527
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 5: specifics like, you need a ride back over there. I

528
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 5: was shaking. I was like, no, I'm good. I would

529
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 5: have hopped in, should have just hopped in with him.

530
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 5: But it's the fact that he didn't really know me.

531
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 5: He's about to give me a ride back to where

532
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 5: I needed to go. I was like, MJ silent. I

533
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 5: was scared as hell, you.

534
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 2: Know, m J. M J was my all moment, like

535
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Speaker 2: J all moment, like the first person. He was like

536
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: no question. So when I first met him was the

537
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 2: next night after after draft had to go to your

538
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 2: city and meet him and all that. It was more

539
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 2: my pop stole, my pos going crazy love, I don't

540
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 2: care my pop love m J like, so my Popps

541
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 2: and he was my popt is looking at like like damn,

542
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 2: that's rarely. So I think that for me that that

543
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 2: that was, that was like, yeah, that was right there.

544
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: Mat him. I called him Michael.

545
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: I didn't know.

546
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to say. I was like, do

547
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: I call him Air Jordan's do him Mike? Do I

548
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: call him mister Jordan's say Michael, I don't know.

549
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 5: I'm just starstruck.

550
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: Man.

551
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 4: We all know him talking a lot of stuff. Have

552
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 4: you ever had to tune him up on the practice

553
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 4: court one time? Like when he talking like he don't

554
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 4: he don't step out to him eventual.

555
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: Out that more?

556
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: I mean that was sometimes sometimes sometimes comes shoot around.

557
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: I know, I know.

558
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna come talking. That's what I'm saying.

559
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 4: Now, he's just gonna shoot you no more that I think.

560
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 4: You know, we can't have cardiac killer putting putting it.

561
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 4: I'm saying, welcome, I want to drop my guy to drop.

562
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 3: Would you would you rather cross somebody up and make

563
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 3: them fall.

564
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: Or dunk on the seventh field? I mean what I

565
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 2: want to do? Would I rather do?

566
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 5: You?

567
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: Said? I wish I could dunk crossed, make them fall, man,

568
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: I ain't. I ain't dunking so long. Man, I wish

569
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: I could anybody. Have you got anybody in lead, tip,

570
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 2: bop or anything. No. The closest, the closest I got

571
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 2: was like I think one time, what's his name, Gustavo Iron?

572
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he like he like, yeah.

573
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 2: He jumped past me a little bit, like my teammates

574
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 2: counted though they counted as a dunk Milwaukee was I

575
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 2: was there there, Yeah, he was there. Actually this is

576
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: my second it's my second year in the league. It's

577
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 2: my second league. Yeah, definitely.

578
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 3: What you think about the the court, Yeah, like y'all

579
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 3: got one of the most exclusive courts in the league.

580
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the throw back one, Yeah, I love it.

581
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, name and everything back. Like I was like,

582
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 4: it's sick, right. The bobcast never said, well with me.

583
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: You you saw that transition.

584
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 5: From man, but like the whole city responded to that

585
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 5: big because it was like it was what you knew.

586
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,479
Speaker 1: Everybody remember the till and man remember they had. I

587
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: was like the.

588
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 4: Like feeling himself came at himself.

589
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: Like because what was his name was? I was like, okay,

590
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: you feeling, I said, when you got it? You do

591
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: you got it? I paid for it, Like yeah it was.

592
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: But like when that came back, I was like, okay,

593
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: yeah it was.

594
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: The city was they was hyped for the Hornets to

595
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 2: come back.

596
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 4: I feel for you this year, like but you having

597
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 4: a cold. See you know what I'm saying. I mean,

598
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 4: you've been an All Star before. We talk about how

599
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 4: different it is to get that starting not and like

600
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 4: that achievement.

601
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: If I was just talking to somebody today, man, Like

602
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: you know, as a kid, you see the starters coming out,

603
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: you see everybody coming through the floor, the starters, I'm like, yo,

604
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: whatever's gonna I want to come through the floor. I

605
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: wanted to like that fact, like one day I want

606
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: to be able to come through that, to come through

607
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: that for that floor on the stage. Man, So to

608
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 2: get to get voting as a starter.

609
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 5: I mean.

610
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: It was. It was crazy like and like like you said,

611
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: just the respect on my pairs, like the dudes who

612
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: are going against every single night and really see you

613
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: know how much blessed and I give every day to

614
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: this game, every night to this game. So now I

615
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: respect the guys that I play with, man, because they're

616
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: the ones who really got me over the top to

617
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: get into the game as a starter.

618
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 5: So how is it this year playing with a guy

619
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 5: like Tony Parks.

620
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: Man, It's it's been First of all, I mean it

621
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: was a surprise to even get him when he left,

622
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 2: saying I'm like he living coming to Charlotte. But I mean,

623
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: he's a guy who I looked up to for a

624
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: long time, you know what I mean, Like if I'm

625
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: watching like after the season as a young as a

626
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: young and like to my second my second in the

627
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: league in the summertime, like my coaches giving me filming TP,

628
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: Like that's a dude who I'm They want me to

629
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: like try to get my game. Like, so when we

630
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: got him, like damn, I can't believe he got TP.

631
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: And he's been helped me a lot.

632
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 5: But he being real humble right now, he was like, Hey,

633
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 5: I looked up to Tony Parker, go get him. Yeah,

634
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 5: he making the shots, he calling the shots now.

635
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 3: I played against Tony Parker when I came out the

636
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 3: McDonald's game. We playing the USA National Game. Tony Parker

637
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 3: was on that team. When I seen him, he was

638
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 3: one of the good best players on that team and

639
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 3: played against When I seen him go with San Antonio.

640
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, dude, must really be be somebody.

641
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: And that was the first time I ever heard of

642
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: Tony Park.

643
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 5: The first time I saw him was nineteen that playoff

644
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 5: series really against GP when he gave GP fits g

645
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 5: people kicking slap him and he was giving him the

646
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 5: business at like nineteen.

647
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: How many years you've been in Charlotte. It's my eighth season.

648
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: So you're a country boy now, I guess.

649
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: So I had to be a big city New York.

650
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: Boy going down to the South.

651
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 3: Right there, You're in the South.

652
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: Now you're a country boy. I love it.

653
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: I love it, man. I'm more. I'm more chill, laid back,

654
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: slow pace, sure, yeah I can't. The fast pace ain't

655
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: really for me. Yeah. So the town and everything you

656
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: just just love. I'm just I'm normal out there, man,

657
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: which I love. I'm able, I go to the mall

658
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: man hoality. I'm never like, I never feel overwhelmed when

659
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: I'm out, you know what I mean. That's that's what

660
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: I love. I don't like too much attention, you know

661
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: what I mean. So I like to be able to

662
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: be out and enjoy myself and not being I mean,

663
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: don't get a twisted. People come up to me, but

664
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: it's always with the most respect, you know, never like overwhelming.

665
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: So that's what I love it so much. That's what's up.

666
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 4: So I say, you you big in the community in Charlotte.

667
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 4: What made you want to be giving back?

668
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: See?

669
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: I mean, you know us as athletes, everybody, we get

670
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 4: a lot of money, make a lot of money. But

671
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 4: the impact we make when we show up and we

672
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 4: put the time in and that's the you know, the time,

673
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 4: giving your time. I think that's the biggest thing you

674
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 4: can do. I mean, we all all of us here

675
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 4: do charitable things and show up in the community, talk

676
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 4: about some of the stuff like I know you with

677
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 4: the boys and girls, the big sisters, brothers sisters.

678
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I work with four kids, two boys and two girls.

679
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: So the reason I want to work with them is

680
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: because you know, I just know I could be out

681
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: talking to thousands of people, hundreds of people, and I

682
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: probably I'm probably not gonna impact them as much as

683
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: I can impact four kids, you know who I can

684
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: spend a lot of time with. You know, I've been

685
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: helping them a lot. You know, They're grades have been improving,

686
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: they've been improving as as human beings, and that's how

687
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: I wanted it to be.

688
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 4: That's huge, man, Like, for real, you putting in that

689
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 4: personal time with them is like, could you imagine you

690
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 4: as a kid like some been starting all about to

691
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 4: come kick it with me and talk to me about

692
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 4: doing better in school or whatever. It wouldn't even matter.

693
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 4: I'd just be like here, like you know what I'm saying.

694
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 5: Like the timeshot is that I'm gonna talk to a

695
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 5: thousand kids.

696
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: Hey with a check, I'm gone.

697
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 5: You know the other way you can you can be

698
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 5: but to be able to say, hey, man, I could

699
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 5: talk to a thousand people, but I can't affect them

700
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 5: as if I could be before. To hear that from you, bro,

701
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 5: that's that's big.

702
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: When you was coming up, who's the person that every

703
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: time you was like, man, he gets buckets, he'll walk

704
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: in bucket giller.

705
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, y'all just got right to the point. No question.

706
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: I was. You know, we simular height, similar body bills,

707
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: so you know, yeah, I was like, you could do

708
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: a question, no question.

709
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 5: So when you say that, when you say that's your favorite,

710
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 5: when you say that's your favorite player.

711
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: He's one of them. He's one of them for me.

712
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: For me, one of my favorites is Tim all the way.

713
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: Okay killer, So that explains a lot. That explains a lot.

714
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved him all the way man. So you

715
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: pad in your game crossover and just getting anyway he

716
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: could he wanted to, damn.

717
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 5: So how was you able to watch Tim hardaway on

718
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 5: the East Coast?

719
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: It's like midnight you the YouTube?

720
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: There wasn't no YouTube? Yeah, so you like, we had tapes,

721
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 2: you know, my dad would.

722
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: My pops love So what you say is that is that?

723
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 5: Oh?

724
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, the game question got you, no question?

725
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: He grew up.

726
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 4: Wasn't them superstars tapes and stuff like you know when

727
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 4: it used to be you know, Lee used to feature

728
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 4: like nine dudes on the tape and you get to

729
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 4: see them on the tape and.

730
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 5: The pops hoop that he hoped he said he did

731
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 5: no footage of that, no footage and no records of that.

732
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: Shots fired and pops back to see something you need

733
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: to see?

734
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: Have you ever told you with a bust you all

735
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: the time. I wish y'all could hear some of his stories.

736
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: It's hilarious, especially with the accident. Y're gonna cry and laughing.

737
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 5: So was he like a pops that will take you

738
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 5: to the park to go watch yeah cats and everything.

739
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went to we went to the party. We

740
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: sued to go every Sunday. Every Sunday, me and my dad,

741
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: my brother, one of my cousins. We used to go

742
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: every Sunday and we usuedld just hoop all day. And

743
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: then when the o was it half quarter? Was it

744
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: fully full? Court?

745
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 5: Go down and your brothers be shooting on the other side.

746
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: I mean it depends because sometimes the court be broken

747
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: one riomor be broke, so we probably had one rim,

748
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: so depending yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

749
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 4: This is one thing I noticed about a lot of dudes,

750
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 4: teammates or people I played against or know that you

751
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying from New York, y'all boys be dancers,

752
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, Like for real, like y'all.

753
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 4: Like I heard, like, so, so you you dance at

754
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 4: the Apollo when you're coming up?

755
00:34:54,880 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: I heard, Yeah, this.

756
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: Came out just all them shaky and stuff.

757
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 5: That's a whole lot different than being on Apollo though,

758
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 5: Like like that's not you nice though, right, Like what's

759
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 5: like what type of.

760
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 1: Like was it the street dancing. Was it peanut butter jelly?

761
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: It was like it was like routines and all that

762
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: I was. I had a little group he was with,

763
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: Like you had a group, okay, Like it was gonna

764
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 2: get it hockey with you. It's necessary.

765
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: Was it was legit.

766
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: It was legit. It was legit. It was crazy. I

767
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: can't even believe I did that. I mean some time out,

768
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: Like you think that helped your game?

769
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 4: It all like the moods or footwork or any of that,

770
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 4: Like you think any of that translated your pop?

771
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 2: Say that said all the time? Man, he said all

772
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 2: the time. He got an accent, but he always be

773
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 2: like because the way you always tell me you having

774
00:35:54,760 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: them dancing out though you So you gotta from island?

775
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: Where come from? Yeah? I got an African name year.

776
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: Yeah you AI.

777
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: Y'all are type of players.

778
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 3: Sometimes it takes coaches a while to get y'all to

779
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: kind of get y'all game, to know how y'all can

780
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,479
Speaker 3: succeed because y'all scored so much.

781
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: Of y'all scored so well.

782
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 3: What's your your take on, like how how coaches take

783
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: some coaches you have take their time to really realize

784
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: what your game is and what you can bring to

785
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 3: the table with a team.

786
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: I've been fortunate enough to have some some coaches who

787
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: kind of let me know, do my thing. But at

788
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: the same time, I did have to learn. I had

789
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: to learn how to be a point guard, you know

790
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: what I mean, how to how to how to balance

791
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: my my scoring and winning and whining and passing, you know,

792
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: because you know, nobody want to play with a guy

793
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: who I mean, I know I score a lot, I

794
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: know I shoot a lot as well, But nobody want

795
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: to play with a guy who's not getting rid of

796
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 2: the basketball either. But I'm I'm I'm unselfish and I

797
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: mean fortunately to play with some great dudes who understand,

798
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: you know, knowing if I if I got to get

799
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: rid of it, I'm gonna get rid of it. I

800
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: always make the right play.

801
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 3: Is your competitive as one of these things too. You

802
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 3: got Kyrie, you got Steph Curry, you got Westbrook.

803
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: Got them.

804
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he ain't got but I know that

805
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: he's out of them, know.

806
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just saying what to keep your confidence

807
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 3: and keep your motivation, Like, oh man, they ain't screaming

808
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: my name, they got you got these players, and then

809
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 3: you know that you're the Gihnt Walls and the Damon Lillard's,

810
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 3: but you got catch like you the Mike Conneys who

811
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: don't really get the type of credit dude that that

812
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: really fused you to keep on, Like, man, I gotta

813
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: go ahead them.

814
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: No, I don't really care. I ain't gonna lie. I'm

815
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: not really into like people saying my name or not

816
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: talking about me because when I play against them, like

817
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: I'm giving it everything, you know what I mean? So yeah,

818
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: I could care less of people talk about me. Honestly,

819
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: I rather than not talking about me. You all start

820
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: starting now. So price is on your head, no question.

821
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: If it's something that gets you, like like I used

822
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: to be like at somebody, like I really wanted to

823
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: fight him. What what give you that competitive it? Like,

824
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: what's that thing you look for to be like I'm

825
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: at them, I ain't gonna lie. It ain't much have

826
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: looked for because like when I'm playing against Steph, I'm like,

827
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: that's Steph. You know what I mean? I like that

828
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: you just like to kill.

829
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: It's a must at that position, and.

830
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: You gotta.

831
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: Get the point position is for really.

832
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: I'm playing is Kyrie Staff for us, John Dame, Yeah,

833
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: you got the young guy Dan Fox.

834
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 6: God at it. Every time I'm in the mix, I'm

835
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 6: in there and go to pick for both, I'm.

836
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: Like, it's a lot of that's my that's my brother

837
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 2: right there, John Man. We've been me and John playing

838
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: each other and dollars and we got cool ever since then.

839
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 2: And you know when we're in between them lines though,

840
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: we're gonna add it.

841
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 4: But for you, like you say, every night it's shark

842
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 4: infested waters, like not just for like yeah you you

843
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: you going out there and they gotta guard you, but

844
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 4: you got to talk about having to guard the guards

845
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 4: that you got to guard from night to night. Basis,

846
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 4: these dudes is like probably as elite and the skilled

847
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 4: as ever at the point position. And now you can't

848
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 4: touch them. You can't do this, you can't do that,

849
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 4: and all this freedom of movement stuff. It's like you

850
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 4: out there on the.

851
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: Island, man, listen.

852
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 4: Like a young boys by DM and Foxes, lines of balls, everybody.

853
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: It's crazy. That's what I've been looking at life.

854
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: The point is sick, man, that the point of composition

855
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: is insane. Man. It's like it's literally every single night,

856
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: I don't know I people understand that much. You know,

857
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: I'm a competitor, so I'm trying my best to play

858
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 2: defense and compete defensively. I still got to score for

859
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: my team, you know what I mean. So it's it's

860
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: it's literally every single night for me.

861
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 4: And that just speaks and volume, and it just speaks

862
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 4: volumes about his accomplishment to be a start on the

863
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 4: All Star team in this league with it right now,

864
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 4: with this many like top flight sick point guards, you

865
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like somebody get left off every

866
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 4: time because just because it's too many of y'all. It's

867
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 4: like coh and it's only so many they could go

868
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 4: like that's like that's a that's a huge accomplishment. Though

869
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 4: you're doing your and it's like, you know what I'm saying,

870
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 4: you and little bitty Charlotte where it ain't really like

871
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, it's hard to do, Like

872
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 4: you're doing it in a place where it ain't as

873
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 4: easy to do it. So it's like that's where that

874
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 4: you know, you having that chip come in. It's like

875
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 4: you just grinding it out because you're in an unlikely

876
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 4: scenario for where you at.

877
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

878
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: Period, what was something that you bought?

879
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: You was like, man, I just played so and so

880
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: thousand for that, Like I ain't never spent that much before.

881
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: All that once was the biggest. Like the first thing

882
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: was probably my mom's crib, my my parents' house when

883
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: I when I was able to by my mom my

884
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 2: pops day first they first crib.

885
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 5: Was that?

886
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 2: What was up? That was crazy? Yeah, that was a

887
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 2: couple with that was a couple of hundred thousands. I'm

888
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 2: really about to do this, hih. But you know, anything

889
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 2: for anything for my people, anything from my parents, that's much,

890
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: you know, question, no question. But if you've been counting

891
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: that my house outside of the houses and cars, outside

892
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: of that, it.

893
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 3: Might have been a watch. It might have been something

894
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: that he was like, man, I paid for that.

895
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 4: We see, got the hoops, got the got the MJ

896
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 4: influence going on, Got the diamond hoops.

897
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, besides the houses, probably my chains, my change.

898
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: But even though it still wasn't no hundreds, No, it

899
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: wasn't none of that, but it was still expensive. And yeah,

900
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,959
Speaker 2: I was like when he told me the price, I'm like, damn.

901
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: But I went in boord Any. I'm like, you know what,

902
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: I deserve it, man, Like I worked hard, so I'm

903
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 2: gonna go get me this chance for sure. Yeah. And

904
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: the follow up question, what's your top five rappers?

905
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 4: Oh, top five rappers? Five rappers is the one you're

906
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 4: gonna get everybody like.

907
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: Yo, son yo, people die every day. B that's the

908
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: fact that's paiding for right there. I'm loving music right now.

909
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: I can't lie. I think I'm into I think I'm

910
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: into music more now too, now that I'm a little

911
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: bit older. Top five Biggie is this in or no order,

912
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 2: no bigge, big part jay Z, You're gonna have to

913
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: give a couple of the new dudes some love. You're

914
00:42:55,239 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: gonna fight over these to the new guys in the

915
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Drake Boom, body blow. He's in there.

916
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 2: He's in the time five see the fifest it's always

917
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 2: a challenge.

918
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: We want to go down south man.

919
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 5: You want to say, I ain't going down there, going down,

920
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go nas.

921
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: Okay with that.

922
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: That's that.

923
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 4: So let me see he got Biggie park Jay Nasz.

924
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: Right in that. Don't be in there one day for sure.

925
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: I just name him now. If he's not now, he's

926
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: gonna be there for sure.

927
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: He ain't missed. I think he's in the mix. He

928
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: miss missed millenniums and missed.

929
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: He don't miss I don't know what he's don't miss yo. Man.

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Speaker 4: We want to thank the special guest House Drew Gooden

931
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Speaker 4: for housing us tonight, Bro and Man, we definitely appreciate

932
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Speaker 4: Campbell for coming out in rock. You will just click

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Speaker 2: Just tell wherever they can get it. Wherever you can

935
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Speaker 2: find this motherfucker, get it.

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