1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Live from the East Room of the White House in 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: a wide ranging news conference approaching two hours in length. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: At times went far off script as the President tries 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: to take control of the narrative on the eve of 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: his first anniversary at the White House. I'm Joe Matthew 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: in Washington. Welcome to a rather truncated edition of Bloomberg 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: Sound On. We're gonna get instant analysis from the panel 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: with Bloomberg Politics contributors Jeanie Chanzano and Rick Davis, and 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: we'll keep you posted throughout the evening on voting rights 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: debate and and voting for that matter in the U. S. Senate. 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: The President speaking from the podium, as I mentioned, for 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: almost two hours, backed by the iconic gold drapes in 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: the East Room, where he faced a group of reporters 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: downsized by COVID but certainly pent up with a lot 15 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: of questions. As you might expect, the President opened with 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: the good stuff from a year of challenges, as he 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: put it, but also a year of enormous progress. Three 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: child poverty dropped by nearly the biggest drop ever in 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: American history. New business applications grew by the biggest increase ever, 20 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: and for the first time a long time, this country 21 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: is working. People actually got a raise, but with persistent 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: challenges like inflation, failure to pass the rest of his 23 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: economic agenda build back better. The first question in this 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: marathon session was whether the president overpromised on what he 25 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: could accomplish in his first year. I did not anticipate 26 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,639 Speaker 1: that there'd be such a stalwart effort to make sure 27 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: that the most important thing was that President Biden didn't 28 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: get anything done. Think about this, What are Republicans for? 29 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: What are they for? They be one thing? Therefore, and 30 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: so the problem here is that I think, which happens? 31 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: What I have to do in the in the change 32 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: in the tactic, if you will, I have to make 33 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: clear to the American people what we are for. We 34 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: passed a lot and to that, and he says, I'm 35 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: gonna get out of this place more often. Let's get 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: to the panel. I've been looking forward to this. Bloomberg 37 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: Politics contributors Jeannie Sheanzano and Rick Davis have been listening 38 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: along with us and are here now to help us 39 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: unpack what we heard today. Jeannie, one hour and fifty 40 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: two minutes later, did the President help himself today? Or 41 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: did he hurt himself. Well, I thought he started out 42 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: very strong. I thought it could have gone a little 43 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: bit shorter. Um. I think he started out strong, as 44 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned, talking about what he thinks he has achieved, 45 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: and I did think I learned something some things, particularly 46 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: early on. He's going to run again, Kamala Harris will 47 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: be his running mate, he said. He also talked about 48 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: the fact that he seems willing to try to push 49 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: for things like build back better and voting rights in 50 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: smaller chunks, so maybe taking a lesson from Bill Clinton 51 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: after he had a difficult midterm and trying to do 52 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: some smaller things. He mentioned the Electoral Count Act for instance, 53 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: And I also thought it was fascinating how he previewed 54 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: what I think we're going to hear going into the 55 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: mid term, that his big question about the GOP is 56 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: going to be what do they stand for? Absolutely nothing? 57 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: So you know, I thought those things were very interesting. 58 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: And then to your last point, he talked about what 59 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: he's going to do differently, get out of d C, 60 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: which makes sense, although I don't know how effective it 61 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: will be, solicit input, and focus on the bid term elections. 62 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: That's those are the three things he said. He's going 63 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: to do. Rick Davis, what's your take on this? You 64 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: help to advise politicians for a lot of years. Would 65 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: you have told anyone to go out there for almost 66 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: two hours and take every question on every topic under 67 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 1: the sun. Yeah, Well, I mean I've I've seen a lot. 68 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: I mean my years of going to press conferences with 69 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: John McCain. He you know, he didn't like anybody to 70 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: get between him and a microphone. But this set a 71 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: whole new standard. Uh, it didn't. Yeah, in fact, I'm 72 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: a little surprised, and just invite the reporters up and 73 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, have him, have them come up to the 74 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: podium and have a little conversation. Um. Look, I think 75 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: I think Jenny's riot and that Like, I think he 76 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: made a good pitch for his program, all of them, 77 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: I think, not just the ones that were important and uh, 78 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: but I would say I thought the foreign policy pieces 79 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: to this were really disturbing. I mean, like, did he 80 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: just give Vladimir Putin a pass on only going into 81 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: Ukraine and so far? Um? You know, did he wishwah 82 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: about uh NATO countries that border Ukraine? Uh, not having 83 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: a security interest in what Russia? Does? I mean like 84 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: did did he actually talked to President Chee in China 85 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 1: about the origins of the uh covid um uh disease? 86 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: Because nobody seemed to know that at the time. So, 87 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: I mean, like, there are a lot of unanswered questions. 88 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: I think when we see the morning papers, as if 89 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: anybody will wait that long as shows my age, I 90 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: think you're gonna see that the real question marks are 91 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 1: going to be uh where he went on the foreign 92 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: policy questions, supposedly his strong suit, Uh, not so much 93 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: on the domestic plans that everyone actually thought were going 94 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: to be the hotspots. Indeed, what's the purpose of this exercise, though, 95 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: I'll ask both of you here. Is it to have 96 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: a digestible sort of narrative that people could watch on television, 97 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: listen to on the radio, feed headlines tomorrow morning, Rick 98 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: to your point? Or was this some sort of abstract 99 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: exercise that you know what they were gonna be grabbing 100 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: headlines all over the place. We're in an online world now, 101 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: nothing matters, Genie. Nobody watches these things in their entirety anyway, 102 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: Why go for two hours and more questions than we 103 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: can count? At a certain point, don't you reach the 104 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: point of diminishing returns. Well, I thought it was fascinating. 105 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: At one point he actually said, you know, sarcastically, something 106 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: to the effect of, my press team is doing a 107 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: great job here, and you know, I sort of thought that, 108 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: you know, I sort of was empathetic with the president 109 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: that you know, he can't be both answering the questions, 110 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, calling on reporter and controlling the clock there. 111 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: So I was a little curious as to where his 112 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: team was and why they let him go on and on. Well, 113 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: they start with a list, right, There was a list 114 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: at some point I'm assuming which he exhausted that list 115 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: and just started going through the rest of the room. 116 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: It sounded like, yeah, I think the janitor actually asked 117 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: a question. I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure that 118 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: did not happen. By the way, Rick Davis talking about 119 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: foreign policy and specifically Russia Vladimir Putin, Uh, this did 120 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: spark a bunch of headlines terminal and beyond when he 121 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: said this that he expects Vladimir Putin to move in. 122 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: This is how he termed it. He is trying to 123 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: find his place in the world between China in the West, 124 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: and so I'm not so sure that he has. David, 125 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure he has is certain what he's 126 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: going to do. I guess is he will move in. 127 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: He has to do something. My guess is he will 128 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: move in. Genie, who's he talking to there? I was 129 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: stunned by that. And then a reporter followed up and 130 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: and asked, I think a really important question about whether 131 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: the sanctions that he was talking about that would be 132 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: so tough if they were going to be, you know, 133 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: not quite as tough. If he was giving sort of 134 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: put In a pass, if you will on some of 135 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: this for a smaller incursion. Yeah, he suggested there might 136 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: be degrees uh yes, or degrees of invasion, you know, 137 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: if they're going a little bit, we might do this. 138 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: But he tried to walk that back, Gene. He did 139 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: try to walk that back in response to the second 140 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: question or the third question on Russia. But I think 141 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: it was a little bit too late, and I think 142 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: it's something the White House is going to have to 143 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: clarify again. I found it problematic when Saki was predicting 144 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: that Putin, when Putin would go in with a timeline. 145 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: Here he didn't quite give a timeline, but he said 146 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: he expects it's going to happen. If he expects that, 147 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: it would be good if we heard where what evidence 148 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: he's using to make that statement. And you know, we 149 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: should then all be prepared, I think a little bit 150 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: better than we are, and we should know what the 151 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: response is going to be. Brick these news conferences, this 152 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: is all the second one we've seen like this, the formal, 153 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: the formal solo news conference east room, the whole bit 154 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: that we got today. They're not just for voters there 155 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: for the world, right, these are for world leaders to 156 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: be watching as well. Vladimir Putin watched him answer that question. 157 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: Every world leader, Vladimir Putin President she I mean, these 158 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: these are hotly watched because they don't get that much 159 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: direct access to a president of the United States. And 160 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: and right now this president is immensely powerful because the 161 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: lack of leadership on the world stage, and he feels 162 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: a lot of that vacuum. So this was really critical 163 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: to sending a message to the world. And and if anything, 164 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got such a everyman's style, you know, 165 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: where he sort of talks it through before you know, 166 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: while he's trying to find an answer that that I'm 167 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: not sure anybody got clear signals today, and when you're 168 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: dealing with foreign policy, uh, signals and how clear they 169 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: are are really critical to the outcomes. If Vladimir Putin 170 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 1: was watching a press conference today, I'm I'm thinking he 171 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: goes back to his advisors and said, yeah, did he 172 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: just give me permission to roll across the border? I mean, like, 173 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: I'm really not sure what his takes on this is 174 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: gonna be. So I think you'll see a lot of 175 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: backfill with with um, you know, Anthony blinkoln uh In 176 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: in full shuttle mode to try and stop of an 177 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: incursion into Ukraine. I'm not sure he was benefited by 178 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: the President United States saying he actually expects one. So 179 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: we're not going to be surprised if B. Lincoln is 180 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: doing all the morning shows tomorrow, is what you're saying. Well, uh, 181 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: you know, I think B. Lincoln probably will not be 182 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: doing morning shows because he's sitting there with trying to 183 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: convince him. You know, he's spending Jennie, let's get into 184 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: the domestic stuff for for a moment. There was quite 185 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: a bit of time spent on the agenda, build back better, 186 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: what's left, voting rights of course, and the President was 187 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: asked early on and quite directly, Uh, what he can 188 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: get done this year? Is there anything that you are 189 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: confident you can get signed into law before the midterm elections. Yes, 190 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm confident we can get pieces, big chunks of the 191 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: billback better Law signed in the law. And I'm confident 192 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: that we can take the case to the American people 193 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: that the people they should be voting for, we're going 194 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: to oversee whether elections in fact are legit or not, 195 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: should not be those who are being put up by 196 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: the Republicans to to determine that they're going to be 197 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: able to change the outcome the election. And this is 198 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: while debate is actually going on in the Senate. In fact, 199 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: Joe Manchin was was holding forth on the floor describing 200 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: at almost that very moment, Genie, why he would not 201 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: vote to end the filibuster. What do you think about 202 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: the agenda for two? And what a split screen that is? 203 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: You know, the major one of the major issues the 204 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: President ran not it is dying a sort of expected 205 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: slow death in the Senate at this point. And he 206 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: I think was very clear in the press conference on 207 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: one thing that he is still going to pursue a 208 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: voting rights agenda, but it is going to be much 209 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: more limited than he initially talked about. He's talking now 210 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: about this Electoral Count Act, which is something that has 211 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: bipartisan support, but that is not nearly going to make 212 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: anybody in the Democratic base happy, and that is going 213 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: to be I think a problem. But he was very 214 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: clear when he said chunks of the Build Back Better Law, 215 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: the Electoral Count Act, he is talking about being something 216 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: of an incrementalist. And I also thought it was interesting 217 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: that he sort of critiqued Barack Obama, saying I told 218 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: him to take a victory lapped after the Affordable Care Act. 219 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: He didn't, But I'm going to take my own advice 220 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: and do that on the BIFF, the bipartisan infrastructure. Well, 221 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: you know, it maybe a little late to do that 222 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: as well. But I thought that critique of Barack Obama 223 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: in light of the voting rights issue was something I 224 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: found may have been a little bit misplaced. I think 225 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: his point is well taken, but the critique of a 226 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: very popular former Democratic president, I thought, speaking of lessons 227 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: learned from Barack Obama, Rick, when we crossed the hour 228 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: mark and and started going off the script, it reminded 229 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: me quite a bit of a lesson that Barack Obama 230 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: taught all future presidents when he decided in a in 231 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: a primetime news conference one night in that same room 232 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: at the White House, and I was in the room 233 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: for it, he decided to go for one extra question. 234 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: These were typically very buttoned up, well choreographed events, but 235 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: he he called on Lynn Sweet from Chicago, who asked 236 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: him a question that he was probably not prepared for, 237 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: and it had to do with well, of course, it 238 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: all led to the beer summit. Rick Davis had had 239 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: to do with the arrest of Skip Gates in in Cambridge, Massachusetts, 240 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: and he said the police acted stupidly. If he had 241 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: ended the news conference the question before that, there would 242 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: have been no controversy the next day. Should Joe Biden 243 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: have learned that lesson from Barack Obama? Sure? I think 244 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: this wasn't a scripted press conference. Uh, And so much 245 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: of my friends and the press have always opined for 246 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: the day of Wow, couldn't it just a present go 247 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: in there, you wail it, uh and answer our questions? Well, 248 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: you just saw that happen, and Uh, I'm not sure 249 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: you know what the message was. I was actually kind 250 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: of expecting this, you know, pivot back to the center. 251 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: You know, he he gained the presidency by creating this 252 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: coalition that is vanishing in front of him. The center 253 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: is bailing after you know, a few series of losses 254 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: on these big progressive programs, and I thought you'd see 255 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: this sort of artful pivot to the center. And and 256 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: and and and I honestly I can't. I really don't 257 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: understand if there's any ideological underpinnings to most of the questions. 258 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: He answered after the first hour, we're talking voting rights. 259 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: I'll key off of that because there was a question, 260 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: a tougher question to the president's credit on voting rights 261 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: towards the end of all of this. But I want 262 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: to ask you both before we wrap this up about 263 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: his demeanor, the way he conducted himself, the way he 264 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: interacted with reporters, because he did get angry here. This 265 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: also would not have happened if it had been an 266 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: hour long news conference. As he got the question about 267 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: his speech recently on voting rights in Atlanta. Know that 268 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: you dispute the characterization that you called folks who would 269 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: oppose those wedding bills um as being bull Connor or 270 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: George Wallace. But you said that they would be sort 271 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: of in the same camp. No, I didn't say that. 272 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: Look what I said. Go back and read what I said, 273 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: and tell me if you think I called anyone who 274 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: voted on the side of the position taken by bull 275 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: Connor that they were bull Connor. And that is an 276 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: interesting reading in English. You know, I assume you got 277 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: into into journals because you like to write. So did 278 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: you expect that that would work with Senators Manchen or Cinema? Um, 279 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. There's certain things that are so consequential. 280 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: You have to speak from your heart as well as 281 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: your head. I'll give it to the reporter for coming 282 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: back with a follow up and and and keeping it 283 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: together there. Uh, I mean, Rick, When when you have 284 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: the president starting to raise his voice like that, what 285 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: does it tell you? Yeah, it's it's time to call it. 286 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: Quit the question before exactly as you pointed out, at 287 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: some point you do get your guard down and you 288 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: get fatigued, and I think it's a classic example. And 289 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: and then you have an angry response, which is the 290 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: one thing. The press is always talking his press staff 291 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: is always talking to him. About tone is important, and 292 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: up until that point in time, I thought he had 293 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: a nice conversational tone. I thought, actually it was a 294 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: good way to connect with the American public who might 295 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: be looking in for some portion of the two hour 296 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: press conference. But that definitely crossed the line, and he 297 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: looked angry, and presidents who look angry to the American 298 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: public are not as accessible as those who are not. 299 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton had an enormous capacity to give back snappy 300 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: answers to questions he didn't like, but he did it in 301 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: in a way that you wanted to go out and 302 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: have a beer with him right afterwards. Nobody was asking 303 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: for a six pack at this press conference. Well, ask 304 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: the Press office Jennie. I. I don't know how I would. 305 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: I can't imagine how I would sound or how I 306 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: would be dealing with people after two hours of you know, 307 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: some difficult questions being thrown at me. But I'm also 308 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: not the president. How did his demeanor strike you in 309 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: and did he help himself tonight? You know, I thought 310 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: initially in the first hour, I thought he handled himself 311 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: pretty well. To Urine Rick's point, the longer this went, 312 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: you had questions that you know, we're not ones that 313 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: that he wanted to answer. And he did something that 314 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: really stunned me when he got so angry at this reporter, 315 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: because this is exactly what he did his last press 316 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: conference with Caitlin Collins from CNN, and and he had 317 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: to come back after that and apologize. If you remember, 318 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: and Collins is a great reporter, she asked a fair question, 319 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: he got angry. He did the same thing here. And 320 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: while I did think there were some questions that went 321 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: over the top, I'm not sure this was one of them. 322 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: He did run on restoring civility. Maybe the question could 323 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: have been phrased differently, but it's a fair question. What 324 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: did you mean and referencing Bull Connor and these people 325 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: in your in your statements in a Atlanta and you know, 326 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: do you think that's an effective sort of way to 327 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: try to entice mansion in cinema to change their mind? 328 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: And he could have answered that in a calm manner. 329 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: He didn't, and I think it's something that he's going 330 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: to regret. And I'm just surprised. Either his team prepped 331 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: him and he didn't follow their they're they're prepping, or 332 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: they didn't prep him, and then it's shame on them. 333 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a lot more to talk about. Tomorrow 334 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: is the actual anniversary one year with a President Joe 335 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: Biden in the White House. Many thanks to Bloomberg Politics 336 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: contributors Jeanie Schanzano and Rick Davis, our signature panel, as 337 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: we bring you live coverage here of the president's news conference, 338 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: I do want to mention breaking news quickly. Supreme Court 339 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: rejects Trump. The headline on the terminal Supreme Court clearing 340 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: the way for some of Donald Trump's White House papers 341 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: to be turned over to a Congressional panel investigating the 342 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: January six capital attack. Bloomberg's Greg store Rights the order 343 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: gives a major legal and political victory to the House 344 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: Select Committee and it's Democratic chairman Rep. Benning's humpson of Mississippi. 345 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: A lot more on that throughout the evening here as 346 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: well on Bloomberg Radio. I'm Joe Matthew