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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Steff. I never told you production, but iHeart radio.

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Speaker 1: And we are back with some happy hours, which we're

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Speaker 1: coming up on soon doing the Sex and the City seasons,

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Speaker 1: I promise, but we're just, you know, still travel holiday mode.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of chaotic still because you're about to

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Speaker 1: go to Vegas even we just found that out literally before,

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Speaker 1: so so many things and I'm still not invited. It's fine.

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Speaker 1: Heard they had bed bugs anyway, I'm just kidding. Oh sorry, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Sorry. I should be prepared.

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Speaker 1: You do need to be prepared for real. Find some

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Speaker 1: infrared lighting somewhere or something. Anyway, we are back with

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Speaker 1: a Happy Hour, and I guess it's going to be

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Speaker 1: like good wine, except I'm not thinking so much. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I am. I don't know. But before we start, if

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Speaker 1: we talk about something specific, like companies were not necessarily

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Speaker 1: being sponsored by that Jessic caveat, we might be later,

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Speaker 1: who knows, but right now not currently a sponsor. You

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Speaker 1: sipin on.

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Speaker 3: Something, am it's my red wine? So fine.

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Speaker 2: I have this horrible habit.

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Speaker 3: Last night I played Dungeons and Dragons even though I

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Speaker 3: was exhausted, and I'm very tired from my trip to Disney,

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Speaker 3: which I will be talking about in the next week.

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Speaker 2: But if if the.

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Speaker 3: Moon's a line, you have to play Dungeons and Dragons.

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Speaker 3: Because this scheduling is so difficult, I've taken my COVID test.

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Speaker 2: I don't have it. I guess I told everybody though,

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Speaker 2: so they knew.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, anyway, I always do this thing where after

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Speaker 3: I hang out with people, I want like a final

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Speaker 3: before I go to bed drink.

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Speaker 2: And I poured this wine and then I just went

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Speaker 2: to sleep. I drank it. So it's like, oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sitting out all night because it is late afternoon

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Speaker 2: Nice. That's about where I am right now. It's our feel,

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Speaker 2: so yeah, that's.

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Speaker 1: Like, that's the celebration. I am doing a sparkling alcoholic

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Speaker 1: beverage and it is grapefruit because I decided I don't

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Speaker 1: flick the black cherry, which is odd because I love

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Speaker 1: black cherry, but I don't like it. And that's the

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Speaker 1: only other flavor that was cold. Okay, there you go.

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Speaker 1: We haven't done cocktails. Oh I did buy a cocktail,

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Speaker 1: non alcoholic liquor that you and I have to split

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Speaker 1: so we can feature it. I forgot about that, but yes,

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Speaker 1: So if you are also partaking something adult ish, be

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Speaker 1: responsible point blinks. Take care of yourself and those around you.

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Speaker 1: Be responsible. But today I just kind of wanted to

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Speaker 1: reflect the fact that I have officially turned I guess

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Speaker 1: I'm in my mid forties if you put it. No,

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Speaker 1: not yet, I'm still in my early forties. Joey, our

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Speaker 1: research and wonderful person. We actually met. I actually went

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Speaker 1: pretty sure that I was close to their parents' age

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Speaker 1: But it hasn't made like oh, because in my mind,

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Speaker 1: having conversations with more people about the fact that as

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Speaker 1: fun conversation with my partner's cousin. She is a data journalist,

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Speaker 1: So seeing that major and they work for Politico and

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of like, Okay, the gap between us

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Speaker 1: Like hanging out with Joey. I've become that person. I'm

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Speaker 1: about their future plans, we were like, yeah, this is neat,

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Speaker 1: And having that mixed moment of like, all right, my

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Speaker 1: also the first one that tapped out. I was like,

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Speaker 1: own self esteem. I finally I'm more confident now, don't

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Speaker 1: Like is that something that I should be?

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Speaker 1: You should really take a re examination of your life again.

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Speaker 1: I love Joey and I want to hang out with

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Speaker 1: them all the time, but there are moments I'm like,

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Speaker 1: That's such a stereotype. I'm sorry, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey man, that's again.

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Speaker 2: That kind of fits with what we were talking about.

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