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Speaker 2: You like.

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Speaker 3: Busting with the boss, hanging with the faces, betting on

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Speaker 4: Not be.

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Speaker 3: We're here just drinking beer and making baby. I'm hanging

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Speaker 5: Bro Little Point, Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode

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Speaker 5: of Bossing Sir with the Boys, Episode three oh one.

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Speaker 5: We want to thank you so much for joining us,

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Speaker 5: and before we truly get into it, I want to

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Speaker 5: talk to you about our good friends at Chevy. There's

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Speaker 5: a reason why we've never done a tear talk of

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Speaker 5: best pickup trucks, and that's because Bust with the Boys

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Speaker 5: there's only one pickup truck, and that is the Chevy Silverado.

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Speaker 5: Why is that? That's because Silverado is a partner, a

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Speaker 5: partner you can depend on. We've all spent time driving

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Speaker 5: other shenanigans. Silver Rado was a partner with us in

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Speaker 5: the Spring tour and they have been now the Fall

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Speaker 5: We've told we love the bold, blacked out look of

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Speaker 4: Blacked out head to toe R two. Everybody knows what

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Speaker 5: The only color you really needed to chuck is black.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and she's beautiful.

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Speaker 5: It really is.

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Speaker 5: Just a couple of days ago, man, I just felt

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Speaker 5: football world, we got parlays, we got picks, we got

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Speaker 4: Info at bustinwtv dot com and again the locker room,

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Speaker 4: we preview the weekend. The boy Taylor, he's been on

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Speaker 5: Will and I went to a lunch on Wednesday, and

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Speaker 4: A lunch, a big lunch to where Taylor and I

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Speaker 5: Heart talk, a great heart to heart talk like one

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Speaker 5: you look back and you're like, man top five probably.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah dead friendship seems strong.

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Speaker 5: Wednesday night we did what we did and literally Thursday home, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Have a Friday breakfast and I have not spoke to

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Speaker 4: He sends me a text, what's happy Halloween? We had

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Speaker 5: So I don't even know. I think I'm out of

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Speaker 5: I walk into uh stay Golden.

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Speaker 4: Late for the music, late for the breakfast.

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Speaker 5: We see each other, we smile and then obviously business

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Speaker 6: Hey, boss man, mister Compton, a quick question. We heard

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that happened. I mean again, when

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Speaker 4: You was ratting too, yea.

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Speaker 1: That said it.

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Speaker 4: Where we were talking, I was talking about the scope

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm thinking, like, oh damn, JP's involved on this,

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Speaker 5: It's going the way you wanted, shermtone this question.

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Speaker 6: You let him split us up, do not let him

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Speaker 4: But still you were bullshitting too.

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Speaker 4: You were like, hey, who's not here right now? I

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Speaker 5: Okay, hold on yeah.

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Speaker 4: On Thursday, thay, yea on Thursday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, no, I got he's never here. I

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Speaker 4: I already understand that. I'm thinking who else? And you're

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Speaker 4: He's like, I'll just put you on the sind. I'll

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Speaker 4: don't think Cooping and Jared would do it. He's like,

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Speaker 4: my Garrett. He's like, I don't know, you think Garret

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Speaker 4: He's like, don't you think Jack out of that crew

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I think I have an idea who would

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Speaker 2: You said when you left Thursday you knew, so someone

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Speaker 4: No one told me, No one told me who said it? Then?

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Speaker 4: If I'm mine, who said it?

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Speaker 6: I heard that demon snitch on the boys?

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Speaker 4: Who'd you hear that?

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Speaker 5: For those who don't know who demon is? Going say

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Speaker 5: his full name, Jared.

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Speaker 4: Jared's one who pulled the gun. If you watch the blog,

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Speaker 4: he's the one who had a gun. What are you

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Speaker 6: I heard guns slinging Beamon aka demon?

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Speaker 4: Okay, well here here we are again. Who'd you hear

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Speaker 6: I have my sources. You a little bit of a

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Speaker 5: Sure you can't blackmail your bosses?

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Speaker 4: Is that black man? No, you're trying to get more

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Speaker 4: reward from a brother's nothing to be rewarded from.

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Speaker 5: That's not blackmail.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the inpos out there, that's a good point.

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Speaker 7: That's a good point.

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Speaker 4: So who said who said that? Jared rated demon?

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Speaker 5: Demon? Demon told me? Demon ratting on himself. See what's

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Speaker 5: happening here, boys, is we are slowly getting torn apart.

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Speaker 5: This might be the thing that ends busting with the boys.

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Speaker 4: Nobody told me.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I knew, yeah, but bro, he texted me, I'm disappointing. Wait.

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Speaker 4: Wait, that's when I called JP and I was like,

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Speaker 4: what the fuck happened? He snitched without snitching? How did

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Speaker 4: he do that? I can't tell you. Listen, I'm the

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Speaker 4: one surrounded by all you guys. Why would I why

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Speaker 5: We know what we have to do. We gotta get Beaman.

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Speaker 5: We gotta end Beaman. We had to blow up his

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Speaker 5: house or something. Oh, he's an apartment. We got to

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Speaker 5: steal his cat, mister pupper Nicol? What's his dog? What's

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Speaker 5: his cat's names? Biscuits? Just a man that lives by

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Speaker 5: himself with a cat. We're taking that cat. We're taking

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Speaker 4: Does he have a girlfriend? Is it his girlfriend's cat?

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Speaker 7: He said that, He says they got it together, but

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Speaker 7: it's at his place?

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Speaker 1: What is no?

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Speaker 5: No, you don't get a cat together with someone you

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Speaker 1: God damn.

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Speaker 5: I did almost like a photo it the other day

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Speaker 5: I'm just standing in line with cat food in my hands,

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Speaker 5: I don't control my world. I'll tell you guys right now,

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Speaker 5: I do not cold when I go home. I'm a minority.

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Speaker 5: I got I get picked on, I get beat up.

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Speaker 5: Low tea household, very low tea household. So that's what

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Speaker 5: I'm fucking dealing with. We all got problems. Will, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, well, you had, up until that point, you

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Speaker 4: think to myself, like I can count on Will. What

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Speaker 5: This is the same incredible friend. I can't wait for

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Speaker 5: Michigan's downfall. Lie when I lie to you?

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Speaker 4: I said it to your face, though.

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Speaker 5: But when did I When did I lie to you?

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Speaker 4: When did I lie to you? What are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: Are you want the T when you're saying, oh, is

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Speaker 4: this the part where you blame me for TP in

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Speaker 5: I didn't do it wherever you need me? And I

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Speaker 4: It well because part of me sits there. The damage

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Speaker 4: to me through text.

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Speaker 5: Oh let's see.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Will Compton just well he sends a gift, black guy

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Speaker 1: Will?

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Speaker 5: What do you want? How can I help you? Text

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Speaker 5: me back? Just disappointed?

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Speaker 4: Lool? And what is this the part where you start

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Speaker 5: We still get a stake gold tomorrow? And then no response.

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Speaker 5: I didn't say nothing about I did it or didn't

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Speaker 5: went to my neighbor did it? Is just crazy? You

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Speaker 5: should have seen that photo immediately thought to yourself, Taylor.

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Speaker 4: Well, because I woke up in the morning, Uh, my

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Speaker 4: of look, you know, I'm kind of like I need

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Speaker 4: And so I'm just thinking that, you know, my neighbors

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Speaker 4: is there any more you guys have any more TP

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Speaker 4: We've ran out and they were the ones that sent

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Speaker 5: I want you guys in the back of the bus

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Speaker 5: to know that I've already hired security. I have security

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna come out the house

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Speaker 4: Mitch, whooah. Aren't you guys on the same team?

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Speaker 5: You bro? You know this was this was nine individuals.

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Speaker 5: This is nine individuals working as one for one night.

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Speaker 5: Now we know, yeah, we think of what's next. Who's next?

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Speaker 4: Said I couldn't be part of it, said I couldn't

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Speaker 4: it as well. But I'm not gonna get revenge. You

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Speaker 5: Yeah whatever.

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Speaker 4: You know what they say about revenge on the journey

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Speaker 4: to revenge start by digging two graves, one for your

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Speaker 4: The best revenge is to be unlike the person who

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Speaker 5: Frank Sinatra, the best revenge is mass success.

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Speaker 4: M James Bond just saying, I just I just want

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Speaker 5: Let's continue the hurt. What happened with UCLA and Nebraska

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Speaker 4: Dog, I don't know, man.

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Speaker 5: It was an off day for Raola. Off day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just tough. You know, you take Ohio State into

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Speaker 4: handle this. We came on late. But again it's like

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Speaker 5: You got to start the fight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you gotta start because even coming out of

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Speaker 4: UCLA was a winnable game for US. I think everybody

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Speaker 4: We're in the same spot where we won five. Last year.

436
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Speaker 4: We were sitting there again at what five and four,

437
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 4: five and three, and then we lose out. We ended

438
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Speaker 4: up five and seven, and we're sitting here again five

439
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Speaker 4: and four. You have three winnable games and you don't

440
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Speaker 4: want to fucking end up five and seven.

441
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Speaker 5: Don't even say it.

442
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Speaker 4: I'm saying but, but that's like the reality. That's the reality,

443
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Speaker 4: and that sucks. What the positive is? Yeah, the positive

444
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 4: we can be eight and four. But I'm not inside

445
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Speaker 4: the building. I'm not oneide the locker room. I'm not

446
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 4: inside those kids' minds. Like, I know, you sit there

447
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Speaker 4: and you can win out and you know, ended on

448
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Speaker 4: a good note, go bowling again. We had the opportunity

449
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Speaker 4: to go to to uh to be eligible for a

450
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Speaker 4: Bowl game with a win over UCLA. We still do

451
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Speaker 4: each game, but we got to figure it out on

452
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Speaker 4: the shoulders catch we can win games. It's just you've

453
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Speaker 4: got to fucking put the product out there.

454
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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I get it.

455
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Speaker 1: I know.

456
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Speaker 4: I know the pain.

457
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Speaker 5: I'm dealing with the team with the same record.

458
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know the same record, Like we're obviously

459
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Speaker 4: different programs. Right now, what do you mean, we've had

460
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Speaker 4: a Come on, man, we have the same record, I know.

461
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Speaker 4: But you guys, you guys won a national title last year,

462
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Speaker 4: Like everybody knew this would be kind of a rebuild

463
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Speaker 4: year for you guys.

464
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Speaker 5: Do you think it was gonna be this.

465
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Speaker 4: I don't think it was gonna be this.

466
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Speaker 5: Vegas didn't think so Vegas has it nine and a

467
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Speaker 5: half wins?

468
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Speaker 4: Was it nine and a half? Yeah, yeah, I don't.

469
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Speaker 4: I don't think I imagined Michigan being in the spot

470
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Speaker 4: that you guys are in right now. I knew that

471
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Speaker 4: there'd be a rebuild like you guys could have probably

472
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Speaker 4: been like a nine and three ten and two tie

473
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Speaker 4: team as well. I was thinking before the year started

474
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Speaker 4: with it coming down to probably the Ohio State game

475
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Speaker 4: at the end of the year. Yeah. No, I absolutely

476
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Speaker 4: did not, thank you guys would be in the spot

477
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Speaker 4: that you're in now.

478
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Speaker 5: To me, it's with Michigan. If we just had a

479
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 5: more of a consistent play at quarterback, we're in a

480
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 5: much much better position right now.

481
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Speaker 4: Now.

482
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Speaker 5: I don't I don't know who we have. We got

483
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Speaker 5: Indiana an the end of this week. That's a tough

484
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 5: ball club. That's a ridiculous ball club.

485
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Speaker 4: Then after that you've.

486
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Speaker 5: Got Northwestern winnable and then Ohio State at the end

487
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Speaker 5: of the year. And I'm telling you, dude, you just

488
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Speaker 5: throw records at the window when it comes to these

489
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Speaker 5: kind of rivalries. You see Ohio State with Nebraska last.

490
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Speaker 4: Week for sure, like Ohio States to be able to

491
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Speaker 4: be in a close in close games that they shouldn't.

492
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Speaker 5: Be and Michigan mentally has them right now, right mentally

493
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Speaker 5: has them.

494
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Speaker 4: So in the mentality plays because you look at the

495
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Speaker 4: you look at this past weekend with Ohio State Penn State. Yeah,

496
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Speaker 4: it's like Penn State's I mean, they got the roster

497
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Speaker 4: to compete and the way that two.

498
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Speaker 5: Yard line and they're in the same play three times

499
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Speaker 5: in a row. That's just wild. People are already saying,

500
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 5: James Franklin, we got to get rid of this guy.

501
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Speaker 5: Team is consistently ranked in the top ten every single

502
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Speaker 5: year and then people.

503
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Speaker 4: Are called I want to say, a crazy stat that

504
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 4: I saw is that Penn State is like one in

505
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Speaker 4: twenty two since two thousand and yeah, since two thousand

506
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Speaker 4: with James Franklin, he's now one in thirteen one.

507
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Speaker 5: Been there top five teams, You're saying right, yeah, yeah,

508
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Speaker 5: verst a top five, which is it's a it's a

509
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 5: horrible feeling to be in that sort of position. Penn

510
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Speaker 5: State yet one and twenty two against top five teams

511
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Speaker 5: is two thousand. That's just fucking tough. And that game

512
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Speaker 5: was winnable, very winnable, which is crazy.

513
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Speaker 4: I know, man.

514
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Speaker 5: Through a pick six.

515
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Speaker 4: Refs are always sussing the fucking big ten.

516
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Speaker 5: Dude. Refs just need to fucking calm down a little bit.

517
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Speaker 5: There is too much laundry on the field. Let the

518
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Speaker 5: boys play, let them get a little chippy, let them

519
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Speaker 5: get after little bit.

520
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Speaker 4: That's fun.

521
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Speaker 5: You want to enjoy that, Let's let's flip it over

522
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Speaker 5: some positive. Well, actually, one more thing, Dan Lanning, you're

523
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 5: a piece of ship for going for scoring with fifteen

524
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Speaker 5: seconds left in the game.

525
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Speaker 4: Covered, that's all I say. Late cover by landing.

526
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Speaker 5: I like landing.

527
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Speaker 4: I know that.

528
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 5: Don't fucking pull the photo up.

529
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Speaker 4: They're just playing ball. He has no clue.

530
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Speaker 5: He could have took a kne and moved on.

531
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Speaker 4: I'll tell you this. Head coaches have no clue what

532
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Speaker 4: spreads are. That is such a fun.

533
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Speaker 5: Take the photo off the screen, Take theode that was

534
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Speaker 5: that was a few weeks ago. That was that was

535
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Speaker 5: uh me celebrating in Ohio state loss.

536
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Speaker 4: Was what that was.

537
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Speaker 5: That was me celebrating Ohio State loss. We don't need

538
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Speaker 5: to have that on the screen.

539
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Speaker 4: You know what's great about that photo is it all

540
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Speaker 4: played out in reality, like he's got you by the shirt,

541
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Speaker 4: pulling you around. Relax. I'll just say he celebrated with

542
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Speaker 4: you just knowing like I'm about the dummy. Yeah, literally

543
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Speaker 4: just holding me by the dummy.

544
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Speaker 5: That's like a movie scene from The Departed, like so

545
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 5: many people just he just helped me with something, but

546
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Speaker 5: knowing he's gonna get me in just a moment. Yeah, heartbreak,

547
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Speaker 5: hotel dude.

548
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Speaker 4: Heart. Yeah.

549
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Speaker 5: That was a tough game and we were fucking in

550
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Speaker 5: it too. We were in it. We'd go for a

551
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Speaker 5: fourth down in the red zone to get it, don't

552
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Speaker 5: get it.

553
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Speaker 1: They end up scoring.

554
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Speaker 4: It's just.

555
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Speaker 5: And also back shoulder throw in Oregon's first drive, there's

556
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Speaker 5: a back shoulder throw on ball. They kicked the pat

557
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Speaker 5: Will Johnson on Will john Will Johnson didn't play. He

558
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Speaker 5: didn't play that game.

559
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Speaker 4: Is he number two?

560
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Speaker 5: He's number two, but he didn't play.

561
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was on him.

562
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Speaker 5: Bro I'm telling you he wasn't in the game. He

563
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 5: had here's a lower legg injury. He did not play.

564
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 5: I even googled it. Oh yeah, twelve yeah, the one

565
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 5: snuck in there, but he drops this ball. They kicked

566
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Speaker 5: the pat and then they show the replay. You guys

567
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 5: are gonna tell me, we have all this technology in

568
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 5: the rule now, all these camerangles, and no one's gonna

569
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 5: say nothing until after it's over. That's pretty raw. Wild

570
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 5: And on the same exact drive, blocking the back that

571
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 5: would have taken them out of field goal wings that

572
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 5: was not called very obvious blocking the back, Dan Michigan

573
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 5: doesn't get the fourth down. Those three things happen, Michigan

574
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 5: wins that ball game.

575
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Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys are ever winning.

576
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 5: But what are you talking about? Thirty yeah, thirty eight

577
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Speaker 5: twenty one, Yeah it was Moonmoir was close. Yes, thirty

578
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Speaker 5: eight seventeen lay cover.

579
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Speaker 4: Thank god, I play an.

580
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Speaker 5: I just crazy that Landing wants to do that to

581
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Speaker 5: the raiding national champs. That's wild.

582
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Speaker 4: Wait, the new Apex Predator, man Ducks, the Ultimate Apex

583
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 4: Predator is now a done. One of the most fragile

584
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 4: things out there is going to be in the Big

585
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 4: Ten championship. Indiana and organ I think so too, Yeah,

586
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Speaker 4: I think so to.

587
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 5: Indian is a strong ball club. Who is Spagnetti? What's

588
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 5: it these days?

589
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Speaker 4: Signetti?

590
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 5: That guy with him hitting the press conference google me

591
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 5: I win quote like dude, that is and then just

592
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 5: continues to do what he does. You put on an

593
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 5: Indiana ball game right now, the commenteers are saying, this

594
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 5: guy from Olivar and that guy from FSU. This guy

595
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 5: transfers out the ass. This dude said, fuck a rebuild.

596
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 5: We're gonna go in to blooming was it Bloomfield? Bloomingdale?

597
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 5: What the hell is is this Bloomington? And we're just

598
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 5: gonna rewrite history with this ball club. That is nuts.

599
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 4: It's gonna come down to that last game of the

600
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Speaker 4: year Indiana at Hawaii at at Hawaii at That's gonna

601
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Speaker 4: be the plane that game. Yeah, that'll be an awesome game. Yeah,

602
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 4: I mean Indiana. Indiana's playing well, man, they're rolling ranked.

603
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 5: You gotta watch Michigan. They gotta watch out from Michigan.

604
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 5: I'm just telling you.

605
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Speaker 4: For sure, they can't like overlook any of these games.

606
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Speaker 4: Is he sorry? So here's our predictions. The first college

607
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 4: football playoff. Like ranking comes out tonight as you're listening

608
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Speaker 4: to this episode, and we had some rankings at the

609
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Speaker 4: beginning of the year. Let's see how we've done. I

610
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 4: have in there Georgia, Ohio State, Texas, Florida State, Oh

611
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 4: my god, what a brutal pick the ACC now is

612
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 4: gonna be SMU or yeah, yeah, SMU or Miami. Then

613
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 4: I had Alabama. I don't think they get in Oregon, Utah, which, yeah,

614
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Speaker 4: it's bad pick. Oh miss bad pick, Nebraska, bad pick.

615
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 4: Notre Dame. Notre Dame can get in with the rest

616
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Speaker 4: of their schedule. Tennessee isn't an interesting is in an

617
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 4: interesting spot. They could still get in Oklahoma State bad pick.

618
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Speaker 4: I think the big twelve Man's gonna come down to

619
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Speaker 4: Kansas State. They just lost. Yeah, yeah, but they still

620
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Speaker 4: had they can still they can still went out because

621
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Speaker 4: they got I think believe they got Iowa State, which

622
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 4: is gonna come down to Kansas State. Iowa State. I

623
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Speaker 4: think Colorado. Oh yeah, my fault, my fault. No disrespect

624
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 4: to BYU, No disrespected by U. Yeah, b Yu's in there. Yes, yeah,

625
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 4: I completely forgot about BYU. That's on me. But yeah,

626
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 4: even Colorado can still do it. Bro They're a two

627
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 4: loss team right now and they have a schedule that

628
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 4: they can win out on right good ball clubs, but

629
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Speaker 4: they'll be they could be on the outside looking at it.

630
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Speaker 4: Like let's say b YU bring up BYU the rest

631
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 4: of their schedule, because yeah, BYU has Utah, Arizona State, Kansas,

632
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 4: and Houston, they could win out. Say i would State

633
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 4: takes care of business. It'd be b YU and Iowa State.

634
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 4: And if Colorado's in there at like a you know,

635
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 4: a two lost team on the outside looking in. If

636
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Speaker 4: BYU Throttle's Iowa State, like Colorado could be looking at

637
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 4: a spot, a late spot to get in there, that

638
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 4: would be crazy. That'd be crazy. Man.

639
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna skip over my first name that I have Michigan, yep,

640
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 5: but I'm gonna go Texas, Georgia, Oregon, Notre Dame, Ole,

641
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 5: Miss Ohio State, l s U, Tennessee, Alabama, MISSOO. That's

642
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 5: a tough one. That's a tough one. And then I

643
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 5: had Iowa in there as well. A couple of yikes

644
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 5: right there.

645
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Speaker 4: How many do you think it's in from the SEC?

646
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Speaker 4: You guys have a better pulse on the SEC. Right now,

647
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 4: SEC is wide open. It's wide open. All of college

648
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 4: football is wide open.

649
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Speaker 8: Probably three Georgia, Texas, Georgia Tennessee play next. Now this

650
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Speaker 8: coming weekend with the next Tennessee, we have Missippi State,

651
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 8: then Georgia, and then I feel like it'll probably be

652
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 8: pretty cemented in who's going to be in. But then

653
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Speaker 8: you have Tennessee closes with Vandy and they could they

654
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 8: could shake ship Vanderbilt, so kind of scary. But yeah,

655
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Speaker 8: I think probably Georgia, Texas, Ole, miss or Tennessee.

656
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 5: Where is the Vandy Tennessee game?

657
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 8: I believe it's at in Knoxville.

658
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 5: It's in Knoxville, is it?

659
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: You go?

660
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 4: That's gonna be.

661
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 8: Feah Yeah, I'll go tier for sure.

662
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 4: How many South Carolina had a massive win bro over

663
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 4: A and M you guys finish out being a three

664
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 4: loss team, Like, there's gonna be a few three loss

665
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 4: SEC teams that are going to be argued about to

666
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 4: get in the collegetball playoffs.

667
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: There's so many good three loss team Yeah, yeah, and

668
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: really the it's so funny just with Vanderbilt, Like this week,

669
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: South Carolina versus Vanderbilt is massive.

670
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 4: Big implications, huge implications.

671
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: I know, I have to go to a freaking wedding

672
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: in Franklin. So I'm gonna go Friday night to the hotel.

673
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: See if I can see if I can't, talk to

674
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: the team, talk to Beamer, make sure we stay on

675
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: the right path.

676
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: Bru No, I.

677
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 5: Mean the fall. Isn't this your second one?

678
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, fall weddings.

679
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: In the fact that it's here in town, I know, Yeah,

680
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: that's painful.

681
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 4: Brutal, but yeah, dude, it's gonna be.

682
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 5: This is the best year possible to have a twelve

683
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 5: team playoff.

684
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 4: This is gonna be.

685
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 5: It's yes, Like last year you saw kind of the

686
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 5: top six, seven teams, it was, it was pretty much

687
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 5: laid out where it was at.

688
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 4: But this year it's like who.

689
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 5: Knows and what everyone has shown blemishes Georgia this week

690
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 5: against Florida and literally could have lost. That was rooting

691
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 5: for Florida to win that game, just because I love chaos,

692
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 5: like nothing against the dogs. You just kind of put

693
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,479
Speaker 5: it on. You're like, oh, ship, yeah, let's see this

694
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 5: go down right now. Always rooting for Vandy for some

695
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 5: gotta be.

696
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gotta be Oregon. Oregon has to be I

697
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: feel like head and shoulders above everyone else, not head

698
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: and shoulders.

699
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, like as of right now, the way their.

700
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: Season has gone to they do get better every single year.

701
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 5: Here's what I worry about, dude, is when we were

702
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 5: in Oregon watching the Sohiono State, like you see Ohio

703
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 5: State run out of tunnel, their boys are bigger, like

704
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 5: just talking about like in the trenches. Their boys are bigger, stouter,

705
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 5: like they had a look about them that Oregon. I

706
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 5: don't really see. I don't see organ like having the

707
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 5: durability or they're like the move when it comes down

708
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 5: to true trench warfare at the end of the day,

709
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 5: like the SEC you see them cats and we're in

710
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 5: LSU last year or at watching Tennessee warm up versus Alabama, Right,

711
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 5: you just kind of worry about some animals in those Yes, bro,

712
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 5: they got some fucking studs.

713
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 4: And because every week from here on out, it's gonna

714
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 4: have implications, which makes the college for a playoff that

715
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 4: much more fun. It's like even with the NFL, when

716
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 4: teams are like on the Friends, you're kind of like

717
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 4: you're trying to play ahead to be like, Okay, they

718
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 4: need this to happen. To get in the playoffs. That's

719
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 4: just gonna be happening with college football.

720
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 5: But yeah, because dude, being in the locker room and

721
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 5: being like, okay, all right, if the Colts dropped two

722
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 5: out of three and this team and you're just like

723
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 5: in that moment of like, oh we still have a

724
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 5: path of the play offs, right, that is like the

725
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 5: best feeling. Actually that's actually not the best feeling. The

726
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 5: best things when you already locked it up, you got a.

727
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 4: First sea scroll down on this top twenty five, Like, yeah,

728
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 4: the worst team right now is ranked twenty five. Louisville

729
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 4: and Vanderbilt at twenty four and twenty five, both at

730
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 4: three lost teams. Like every team in the top twenty

731
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 4: five has a has a path. Like if you're in

732
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 4: the Big twelve or the ACC, maybe not as much,

733
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 4: but if you're in the SEC Big ten's got some cats.

734
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 4: Like it's going to be nuts, bro. Every game is

735
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 4: gonna have implications, which is gonna make it that much

736
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 4: more fun every week to tune in on Saturday.

737
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 6: One thing that people are bringing up is Army plays

738
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 6: Notre Dame in two weeks. Army is still undefeated.

739
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 4: If Army don't know don't know. But if Army.

740
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 6: Beats a top ten Notre Dame team and then they

741
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 6: win the American and Boise State wins out and wins

742
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 6: the Mountain West. Under the current rules, there's only one

743
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 6: group of five champion that would like you make it

744
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 6: if you're the top ranked conference champion of a group

745
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 6: of five? Right, But could Army or Boise still sneak

746
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 6: into that top twelve just based solely on their record? Like,

747
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 6: have both Boise and Army make it?

748
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 4: I mean if Army is undefeated, man, if they especially

749
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 4: if you're sitting.

750
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 5: Here State Florida State was undefeated last year.

751
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that this is a yeah, there's a twelve

752
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 4: team playoff. Now, I think if you're sitting there and

753
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 4: I think there's all these good teams in the SEC.

754
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 4: But if you're sitting there arguing over SEC three loss

755
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 4: teams to get in and Army sitting there undefeated, it's

756
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 4: like you have to go. You know, That's why the

757
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 4: regular season matters, Right, regular season matters?

758
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 6: Would you put him in over a one loss Bois

759
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 6: and their only losses to Oregon the number one team?

760
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't know. This is gonna be awesome, Yeah,

761
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 4: because if Notre Dame Notre Dame team, I think there

762
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 4: they'd be out of it.

763
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 5: Scatable went off this week, dude, Yeah, it's fun.

764
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

765
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 5: I thought with this nil thing that guys would more,

766
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 5: teams would separate themselves, like the kind of the premiere

767
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 5: programs would separate more and more. But it seems like

768
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 5: it's getting more scattered than ever. Like the teams are

769
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 5: just coming out of the woodwork, grabbing these other five

770
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 5: star guys that just didn't want to wait in line

771
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 5: at these like Alabamas, at these Georgia's, and they're just

772
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 5: going to other places. They're really they're really doing.

773
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 4: So it's gonna be sick. It's gonna be sick. Coaching

774
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 4: is getting exposed, no doubt about it. And we want

775
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 4: to hit some NFL Sure, we'll pop.

776
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 5: Into it, dude, let's pop in.

777
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, that's a great call, mitge let's

778
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 4: hit let's hit an AD, let's hit an ad. Read well,

779
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 4: you hit out, I'm gonna pay okay, Yeah, go tinkle,

780
00:36:51,880 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 4: go tinkle. Great one right here, because there's some ups

781
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 4: and downs and the you know that I had in

782
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 4: the sports book over the weekend the NFL season is

783
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 4: rolling along and the contenders are separating from the pack.

784
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,120
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787
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788
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789
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802
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Speaker 4: touchdown bets Man, the touchdown Parlay, we just we can't

803
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 4: get right. I mean, Derrick Henry, Derrick Henry got two

804
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 4: for us. The only council is one. We had Derek

805
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 4: Kennon where we had a Swift from the Bears, and

806
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 4: we had Dy have Montgomery from the Lions. Jamior Gibbs scores.

807
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 4: I wanted to kill myself because it's like which one

808
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 4: do you pick? There? They all have a lot of

809
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 4: touchdowns on that team lines I know, and then a'm

810
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 4: and Ross saying brown. It's like, why not bet on?

811
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 4: That dude's doing the whole His selling in the end

812
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 4: zone was incredible. Who else tried it?

813
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: Was it?

814
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 4: Drake London from Atlanta?

815
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: Did you see where that started from? No incarnate word,

816
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: which is like a D two is school.

817
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 7: This wide receiver just randomly did it.

818
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Speaker 4: I love that. It's awesome he got a flag. I

819
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 4: love that. But we all were struggling into the touchdown world. Now,

820
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 4: something we're hopeful about. Christian McCaffrey will be active this week.

821
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 4: Forty nine ers. We'll have to put that one in obviously,

822
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 4: You right, Derrick Henry office you right? Yeah?

823
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 5: Are you talking about the boys parlay?

824
00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 4: That one was on me?

825
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 5: That was on me.

826
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 4: This week, I picked de Andre Swift. Bro. It's a team. Yeah,

827
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 4: it's a team every Thursday. It's a team effort. I know.

828
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 5: I thought I snuck one in though, because I saw

829
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 5: him playing against the Commanders last week and I was like, this, Bro,

830
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 5: this dude is really the offense, right and when the

831
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 5: success comes with him, and I figured they get into

832
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 5: the tight red zone and be able to put it in.

833
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's nothing. Bears in trouble. Bears are in trouble. Yeah,

834
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 4: I see Big Ketty, he's having a tough time. He's

835
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 4: they're ready to fire ibra flus, iberfluss, ibraflus something.

836
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 5: It's that time of the year, man. People are just

837
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 5: all over the place calling for people's heads, left, right

838
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 5: and center.

839
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a scary time. It's a scary time to

840
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 4: be a head coach in the NFL with a losing

841
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 4: re Who do you think comes out of the uh? Yeah,

842
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 4: that's another thing that happened. NFC South shake up. The

843
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 4: Saints fired head coach Dennis Allen. They started off owing two.

844
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 4: They've lost seven straight. Dennis Allen two and oh they

845
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 4: start off two? And oh? What did I say?

846
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 5: They start off two?

847
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: And oh?

848
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 5: Outscoring their opponents, and like, I think they scored ninety

849
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 5: points in their first two games.

850
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, like we're just going off.

851
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 5: Michael Thomas gets on Twitter, He's going to start bad

852
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 5: mouth Derek Carr and stuff like that, throwing crazy shots.

853
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 4: Crazy.

854
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 5: You see Derek Carr's press.

855
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 4: Conference that he handled it as well as he could.

856
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I didn't see it. I'm not going to see it.

857
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 5: I usually ignore the good and the bad by just

858
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 5: trying to focus on my job. Derek Carr, true pro

859
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 5: gotta love that.

860
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 7: Derek car is also out there throwing hospital balls toys.

861
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 5: Okay, that's what Michael Thomas said, So damn gonna That

862
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 5: wasn't us, that was that was Mitch Carsley. The mit

863
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 5: cars said that. Go and quote him.

864
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Speaker 4: I didn't see the fantasy lineup too. Thought it was

865
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 4: gonna be bombs over back dad.

866
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Speaker 7: Getting close to that, to a territory of like should

867
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 7: he play? Should he not play?

868
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 4: Oh? Really? He get hurt again off the field, stretchered.

869
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 7: That's the second there.

870
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, it sucks.

871
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 4: The South right now is going to come down to

872
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 4: the Falcons and Bucks.

873
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 5: I think the Falcons.

874
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 4: I think the Falcons too. Yeah, but it's gonna have.

875
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 5: They lost a couple of guys, dude, but don't sleep

876
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 5: on Baker Mayfield.

877
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 4: I know, I know into it like the Bucks could

878
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 4: still make the playoffs. That the NFC North is wide open.

879
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 4: You got the Lions, Vikings, Packers. Now, the Lions are

880
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 4: just a different fucking team.

881
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 5: They handled business all day yesterday against the Packers.

882
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 4: I think I think it was Orlowsky. He tweeted out

883
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 4: this morning that in the last you know, however many games,

884
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 4: they've put up ninety six points a plus north of

885
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 4: one hundred you know, point differential. I mean, you got

886
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 4: offensive lineman scoring touchdowns. They just absolutely destroyed teams. Man

887
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 4: Randy game yesterday with the Packers came down to the wire.

888
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 4: Packers are a tough team, well coached team, yeah, O'Connell.

889
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 4: With the Vikings, they're well coach football team. The North

890
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 4: is going to be crazy. That's gonna be a crazy

891
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 4: finish this year. Do you think they sneak in three teams?

892
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 4: You got the NFC wes is absolutely wide open everybody

893
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 4: within a game. Cardinals sitting at the top five and

894
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 4: four right now, Seattle's at the bottom four and five.

895
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 4: Niners are four and four Rams are four and four.

896
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 4: I mean what sucked with the Rams is Puka throws

897
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 4: a shot, theres a punch and somebody gets kicked out

898
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 4: of the game. I mean the Rams are gonna be

899
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 4: a tough team. I don't know who comes out of

900
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 4: the West because Murray's playing well.

901
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 5: He's playing well, but he worries you about the consistency,

902
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 5: like wins.

903
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 4: On the history. Yeah, based on the history of the Cardinals.

904
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna come down to either.

905
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 5: And then you see the commanders of the NFC East.

906
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 4: I think the commander. I think the Commanders win the

907
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 4: NFC East. Bro I think the Commanders win the NFC

908
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 4: I think I think the Eagles have the roster. I

909
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 4: think when it comes down to coaching, the Commander's got it. Man.

910
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 4: Saquan's a beast. He's changed the game. Like you look

911
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 4: at Derek.

912
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 5: He's gonna change He's gonna change video games. Next year,

913
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 5: they're gonna have the backwards hurdle. Is that not the

914
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 5: most insane thing we've ever seen in our lives? And

915
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 5: it wasn't even the backwards hurdle. It was the the

916
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 5: juke followed by the spin, followed by the elongated lag

917
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,479
Speaker 5: to the turnaround. Yeah, he's off.

918
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 4: I mean those he thinks that's teenage mutant ninja turtleship right, that.

919
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 5: Is John Wick choreographed fight ship. Dude like that as

920
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 5: if him and the dB.

921
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 4: Plan that.

922
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 5: Insane.

923
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 4: Bro just had his rear view mina.

924
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 5: If somebody's there, Bank just popped it on over. That

925
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 5: is wild. That's football porn. You can go back and

926
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 5: watch that video over and over again, just be like, Yo,

927
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 5: this is unreal.

928
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 4: But the Eagles got the roster. I just think it

929
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 4: when you know, coming down to situation, coaching and everything else,

930
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 4: I think the Commander's got the edge there.

931
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 5: Dan Quinn's a stud he is, But dude, I just

932
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 5: hype in the locker room.

933
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 4: Bro Jane Dais was playing well, obviously hurts he's a

934
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 4: stud about head coach here, DQ Siriani, I'm going dan.

935
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 5: Quinn, listen, you get you get to the end of November,

936
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 5: and that's when that rookie wall really starts to hit.

937
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 5: Guys are so used to be putting to playing that

938
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 5: third week, fourth week of November and college their first

939
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 5: year in the league. More times than not, you see

940
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 5: a drop off. And that's why I give the edge

941
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 5: to the Eagles right now. I just think the Eagles

942
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 5: they have the players, they have the talent. Yeah, maybe

943
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 5: coaching is a little better, but when it comes to

944
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 5: a guy who's really crushing it like Jaden Daniels and

945
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 5: you get to that December, I think everyone does it

946
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 5: to some extent and it's gonna the way the records

947
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 5: are shaken out right now. It's close. It's close. Personally,

948
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 5: I would like to see the commanders when the East

949
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 5: because it's exciting. I want it for you, I want

950
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 5: it for that team. I want it for Jaden Daniels.

951
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 5: That's exciting to me. But you see the Eagles. Man,

952
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 5: the Eagles have so much talent and they have you know,

953
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 5: they got guys like Lane Johnson. It's upsetting that Jason Kelsey,

954
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 5: he's over there spiking phones. He's not able to be

955
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 5: in the locker room helping the boys out. But bro,

956
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 5: you want to unpack that for a second.

957
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 4: Yeah we can also a J Brown went down as well. Yeah,

958
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 4: what do you have knee? Yeah?

959
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 5: I think like not like a little meniscus deal, like

960
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 5: a small little minuses. That's always a real grade one

961
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 5: m cl hopefully.

962
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 9: Like he was walking off and like finished the rest

963
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 9: of the first half and then they came out for

964
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 9: the second happen.

965
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 7: I think you tried to warm up and it was bothering.

966
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, teasing peace to aj Brown front of

967
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 5: the show, front of the show.

968
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, also too, like just a receiver having the issues.

969
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, I'm sure you know they're taking the

970
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 4: right precautions and everything else, but sure.

971
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 5: Just popped it up.

972
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: Uh.

973
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 5: They Commanders and Negles haven't played yet. Theyself to play twice,

974
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 5: so that that's gonna be some fun football to watch. Yeah,

975
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 5: that's one to keep your eye on right there. I

976
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 5: think you get December twenty second though, it's just.

977
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 4: I don't know division throwback. Wouldn't that be something fifteen

978
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 4: Commanders in Philly Christmas Christmas game? It might have been

979
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 4: Christmas Eve, but you know it's when the boy hit

980
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 4: the dab sax Sam Brad or we we cleanched the East,

981
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 4: We clinched the East on that day.

982
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what this dude has. Selective CT just

983
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 5: you think of things you can't think of the most

984
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 5: basic shit sometimes, but you remember all of your highlights.

985
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 4: Selective. Oh but yeah, bro, the Jason Kelcey slamming the

986
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 4: phone down, yeah, saying who's the yeah, dropping that F

987
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 4: word hard? Now, who's the F word? Now? Dude did

988
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 4: give him a little nuts. He kind of dropped him.

989
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 5: For a second, bro, which is crazy, I know.

990
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 4: But but Jason Shoulder, he's holding his beer, he's holding beer,

991
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 4: he's on he.

992
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 5: Bent down, but he does give him the thing. Some

993
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 5: dude on Instagram was like, basically clip the part where

994
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 5: Jason Kelsey just slams the phone down and calls him

995
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 5: who's the F wort?

996
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 4: Now?

997
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's like, Jason Kelsey should be in prison.

998
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 5: Celebrities don't care about you. I don't even know who

999
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 5: the no some dude on this it was like a

1000
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 5: sports thing on Instagram and I just I commented. I

1001
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 5: was like, this is the most bitch made clickbait clip effort.

1002
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. Look at the end of the day, dude

1003
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:46,959
Speaker 4: was talking crazy noise about his brother, like right next

1004
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: to him, and I understand the whole you know, having

1005
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 4: composure and walking away and this.

1006
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,959
Speaker 5: Person of status you should keep yourself above.

1007
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 4: He's talking about his brother. He's talking about his brother.

1008
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 4: He understand on something. He's doing it with the phone

1009
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 4: like running up trying to like have a clip. So

1010
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 4: he takes his phone and slams it down and just

1011
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 4: fucking stomps it. I loved it, Yeah, Like I loved it.

1012
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 4: And I'm and I'm dead ass serious, like you are

1013
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 4: a pussy and you are fuck all the legal bullshit

1014
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 4: that you can probably do whatever. It is like you

1015
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 4: are a loser at life if you're that type of

1016
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 4: person just running up on somebody because he probably sat

1017
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 4: with his friends. Bat man.

1018
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 5: If I see Jason Kelcey today, I'm gonna say X,

1019
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 5: Y and Z and he goes and does he thinks

1020
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 5: he's cool for a moment.

1021
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you see him kind of maybe clinch his fist,

1022
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 4: swing that no explode it. Yeah.

1023
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 5: And the thing is is like that's that's that's the

1024
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 5: problem too, is like you're you never would you run

1025
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 5: up on a dude like Jason Kelcey and say those

1026
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 5: types of words being built like that and think I'm

1027
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 5: just gonna get away with this.

1028
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 4: Because I saw somebody. They're like, oh, it's gonna take

1029
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 4: some average joe at some point in time to beat

1030
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 4: the shit out of an athlete and that cuvil stop.

1031
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 4: It's like I I get what you're saying, but I'm

1032
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 4: telling you right now, those alpha type average jows that

1033
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 4: are out there, they're not walking up and running up

1034
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 4: on you, trying to clip you with the phone, trying

1035
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 4: to say this malicious stuff to your face like they

1036
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 4: know who they are, Like they that that's not what

1037
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 4: I'm talking about, because yeah, that's true. It's like, yeah,

1038
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 4: I'm sure that'll happen at some point in time, but

1039
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 4: just running up saying what you're saying about about Jason's brother,

1040
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 4: like you're a fucking loser. Yeah, you're a loser.

1041
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 5: And I thought it was a well orchestrated tweet.

1042
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, at that point in time, you just you know,

1043
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 4: there's certain things you're staying on in Jason. Obviously the

1044
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 4: it touched them with him talking about his brother, and

1045
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 4: I'm with it. I do I get what you're saying. Yeah,

1046
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 4: I do. I get what you're saying, because you would

1047
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 4: like to have the composure to just not hear it

1048
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 4: because you are you're going to a game, like just

1049
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 4: fucking forget about it. But he wanted to make that reaction.

1050
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 4: I'm pro Jason Kelsey, like I'm siding with the boy.

1051
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think we're all on Jason Kelsey side.

1052
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 5: Anybody not on Jason Kelsey side.

1053
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 4: Mitch, Mitch, you know, Mitch, I don't know because you

1054
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 4: always talking about how can I get up on somebody

1055
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 4: and get a little lawsuit going and make some extra cash.

1056
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 4: You're always talking about that type of ship, those words. No,

1057
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 4: that that that was crazy. That was crazy. Yeah, dude's

1058
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 4: bitch for that.

1059
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: Man.

1060
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 5: That is a bitch made move.

1061
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 4: I had a couple other things. The East, the Bills.

1062
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 4: I was kind of running through divisions. Who he think

1063
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 4: is gonna win these divisions? Uh? The NFC West, we

1064
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 4: already talked about that. Ye, the AFC West. Obviously, you

1065
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 4: got the Chiefs. The only ones who can make it

1066
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 4: interesting is probably the Chargers. But there are a few

1067
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 4: games back right now. I do think the Chiefs are

1068
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 4: going to drop a couple Miles Garrett went crazy. See

1069
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 4: three sacks in the first half. Yeah, my god. That

1070
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 4: you got the East the Bills. I mean, the rest

1071
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 4: of the East is absolutely dead. Look at look at

1072
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 4: the East here. You got the Jets who are second

1073
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 4: division three and six. They have to win out. Bills

1074
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 4: are running away with that. You got the North Steelers,

1075
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 4: Ravens Steelers. Steelers could get the division man Russy, Russy's

1076
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 4: been spice. You got Arthur Smith calling the offense obviously,

1077
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 4: and you got just an absolutely dominating defense, which is

1078
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 4: where like the Ravens, as great of an offense as

1079
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 4: they have, they don't have the they don't have the

1080
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 4: same weapons on defense like the Steelers do. And then

1081
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 4: do the Bengals make it interesting? It'll be.

1082
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 5: Do we think the Colts are able to catch the

1083
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 5: Texans at all? I think they could, but they have

1084
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 5: I mean, Digg's Acl Collins, he's out too lott of

1085
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 5: weapons done. Yeah, Joe Mixon and Tank Dell essentially.

1086
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they got similar schedules on the back half.

1087
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 4: I'm drawing a blank. Click on the Colts, click on

1088
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 4: their schedule. Yeah. I want to say both the Colts

1089
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 4: and the Texans have the Lions still. I want to

1090
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 4: say that Texans might have the Chiefs as well. But yeah,

1091
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 4: it'll be, it'll be. It's gonna be fun man football season.

1092
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 4: This is where it all starts, the matter November December.

1093
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 5: Yes, this is where those team meetings are happening right now. Boys,

1094
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 5: we gotta get after it.

1095
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 4: It kind of does Oh, Mitch, I know you love ball,

1096
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 4: but this is the best part of the year.

1097
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 7: Oh, no doubt, but it's just like, fuck, a couple

1098
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 7: more months, we're not gonna have it.

1099
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, buddy, Mike Sullivan will always say, Hey, you're

1100
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 5: gonna blank. It's gonna be Thanksgiving, and here we are.

1101
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 5: It's almost here.

1102
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, Titans, Titans, A nice win, nice nice win.

1103
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 5: The question everybody's asking right now is can they run

1104
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 5: the table?

1105
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 4: Are they?

1106
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 5: Can they get back on track?

1107
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 4: Then they get back on track.

1108
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 5: I will say I was leaving the Titans game yesterday,

1109
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 5: some guy came up to me and introduced himself. He

1110
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 5: was staying in line for the churro. So he goes,

1111
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 5: I want toroduce myself. I'm Will Levis's dad. It's all

1112
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 5: great to meet you. He goes, We're gonna have a

1113
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 5: great back half of the season. Yeah, said to my face.

1114
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 5: Feel good about it, love it.

1115
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm curious what's gonna happen when Levis gets back

1116
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 4: in the fold. Because Mason's he's done enough, He's done

1117
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: a lot what I mean, Yeah, Calvin Ridley's getting he's

1118
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 4: getting his touches a lot more.

1119
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 5: He had that one deep ball drop. You know I

1120
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 5: know you, Hey, you love that. You love that. Sometimes

1121
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 5: takes it takes win. It takes one, dude, did you

1122
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 5: get one?

1123
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: Win?

1124
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, all that anger in the locker room,

1125
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 5: that cancerous cell that keeps growing, everyone keeps bitching about,

1126
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 5: Hey we got one. Just go just came back in

1127
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 5: days nuts.

1128
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 4: I know that tipped one. Yeah, then get a little high.

1129
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 4: He didn't want it necessarily. You knew he was about

1130
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 4: to get smacked. He kind of had the t rex arms.

1131
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, Paul was running nice yesterday.

1132
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: Dude.

1133
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 5: It was a good it was a good looking big.

1134
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 4: When we were there. We were there boys getting the

1135
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 4: boy went in.

1136
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, what happened to Cushion Bear?

1137
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: Is that his name?

1138
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 5: Cushion Bary? What what injury did he sustain for Corey

1139
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 5: to get in lower body? Okay, so they're saying he

1140
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 5: got hurt pretty bad. I'll have to look more into that.

1141
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 5: I will say this, all Titans fans listening the biscuit,

1142
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 5: Corey Levin under rated ballplayer, under rated ballplayer. Now, Corey,

1143
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 5: I will say this. You know what I'm not I'm

1144
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 5: not gonna I'm not gonna say that Corey is a

1145
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 5: strong he's a great run blocker. That boy knows ball,

1146
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 5: he knows where to put the offensive line. Now, they

1147
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 5: had a snap a snap fumble.

1148
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 4: He's a coach out there.

1149
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 5: That was that was not Corey's fault. And the replay

1150
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 5: that did a great job at a great angle. Hit

1151
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 5: Mason Rudolph right in the hands, hit him right in

1152
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 5: the hands. I I feel good about Levin. I feel

1153
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 5: good about Levin at center. Dude, I'm just telling you,

1154
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 5: am I bias. Yes, absolutely, I love this kid and

1155
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 5: I want him to do well. I did make him.

1156
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 5: That's what I was going to talk about it, how

1157
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 5: much I've made Corey Levin With out me, Corey Levin

1158
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 5: is not in the league anymore. I will say that, Dude,

1159
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 5: Gibbons to Jack Gibbons, doctor Gibbons at a fucking game.

1160
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 5: Just just a Will Compton out there, dude, just having

1161
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 5: a day.

1162
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I watching him.

1163
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 5: You made him. Without you, guys like Jack Gibbons wouldn't

1164
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 5: have the confidence to keep pushing forward, undrafted cat at

1165
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 5: a Minnesota.

1166
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 4: Guys like us, we make ourselves guys like hell, yeah,

1167
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 4: I made all the Yeah. I love seeing Gibby play

1168
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 4: he plays his balls off. Man. You can tell you

1169
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 4: just he has command of the defense. He knows what's

1170
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 4: going on. He fucking plays with his hair on fire

1171
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 4: flies around brom swag to him. I love it.

1172
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 5: He's a more quiet Roberts playing.

1173
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love football.

1174
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 5: Tians might do it, man, they might fucking turn it around.

1175
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 4: Jack.

1176
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 5: I heard you weren't at the Jack missed the second

1177
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 5: half of the football game.

1178
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, you or neither? You're right.

1179
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 5: I love to go see my family.

1180
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 8: I I had to go move my house. We had

1181
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 8: to get out by last night. It was nice to

1182
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 8: see the OT win on the phone, but.

1183
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 4: That was the reason I was so fired up about

1184
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 4: the OT win. Obviously, I love seeing the Titans win.

1185
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 4: But your boy had the under under thirty eight games

1186
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 4: had the other thirty eight. Seeing us, seeing us win

1187
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 4: twenty to seventeen, I was like, God, there we go.

1188
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 4: I love the field goal. Now let's just make a play,

1189
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 4: you know, Moni hooker two picks, huge, huge.

1190
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 5: And is it curse broken?

1191
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: Right?

1192
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 5: Tennessee one to Tennessee, Tennessee team's one.

1193
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we can put that to bed. Now,

1194
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 4: I think we can put the Jets.

1195
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 5: Let's fucking go times.

1196
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 8: I feel like it's always November when both Tennessee teams

1197
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 8: catch a double dub. So yeah, yeah, there's always an

1198
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 8: exception once but maybe next week and two Titans got

1199
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 8: uh who is the Chargers and then Tennessee's got Missippi State.

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00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 8: So if Titans go road win, you know.

1201
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 4: Shout out the Titans organization. They they hosted the boys.

1202
00:55:58,719 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 4: We were there this weekend.

1203
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 5: We had a lot of fun, a lot of love

1204
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 5: out there.

1205
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 4: Shut out Bane, Bill Puffer, Yes.

1206
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 5: Bill Puffer, is it Jared Puffer?

1207
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 4: Jared Puffer. Sorry, that's what he his brother's Bill. Yeah,

1208
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 4: I'm thinking Bill Martin.

1209
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, all good from the ball good but yeah, Titans,

1210
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 5: Master puff, massive love. We gotta we gotta figure out

1211
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 5: a way to pack that stand. We gotta figure out

1212
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 5: a way to get more Titans fans in Nissan Stadium,

1213
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 5: because if you're looking at your phone at all during

1214
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 5: the game, you're gonna hear a cheer. You don't know

1215
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 5: what happened one way or the other. Because they had

1216
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 5: lots of Patriots fans in that a lot of Patriot fans,

1217
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 5: so we'll see.

1218
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 4: Man, that's kind of the theme though. But either way,

1219
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 4: you want to get to a game this weekend, next weekend,

1220
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 4: doesn't matter. Football season is here. We can't wait to

1221
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 4: get out to some games this fall with the help

1222
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 4: of game Time. Matter of fact, they are the official

1223
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 4: ticketing partner of Barsool Sports. Game Time we couldn't get everybody.

1224
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 4: We had about sixteen people at the game yesterday. Got

1225
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 4: eight of us on the in the suite with the sideline.

1226
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 4: The other eight we bought him on the fifty yard

1227
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 4: line on it day of Day of with the game

1228
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 4: Time app at the You got you guys were on

1229
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 4: like the fifty yard line. Yeah, yeah, but again we

1230
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 4: were looking at tickets. We use the game Time I

1231
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 4: have to buy for the Titans Patriot game. Just pull

1232
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 4: up your chosen event and turn on the GT pick

1233
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 4: setting at the top of the screen, or browse the

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00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 4: best local game Time Picks deals near you on your

1235
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 4: game Time at home page. What are you waiting for?

1236
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna buy those Titans tickets this weekend, whether they

1237
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 4: are at the Chargers, whether fly into LA but anyway,

1238
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 4: use the game Time app, download the game Time after today.

1239
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 4: Use code busting to easily score great deals with the

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00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 4: new game Time Picks what time is that game time?

1241
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, Predators game tonight. You're gonna hit that Predators game tonight.

1242
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 5: Go watch and play the Kings. Baby, are you gonna

1243
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 5: chug the beer?

1244
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1245
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 5: I kind of want to just keep it low, keep

1246
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 5: it low this time until they hand you well if

1247
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 5: they if they ask, I will do it.

1248
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 4: I will do it.

1249
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 5: It's kind of like what Burt said.

1250
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. If you don't want, you've got

1251
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 4: to set the expectation. Now.

1252
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 5: I know I should text me like, but they got that,

1253
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 5: we got the Lexus Lounge. Uh, Taylor's mother's there, Taalen's

1254
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 5: grandfather's going. Obviously they're Canadians, so they're obsessed with hockey.

1255
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 4: Just a good time.

1256
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 5: When we were we were walking around this weekend, a

1257
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 5: couple people said, oh, I remember you from the from

1258
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 5: the JumboTron, so they she's win's got herself a little reputation.

1259
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,439
Speaker 5: When she walks in the Bridge do arena. We'll see, man,

1260
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 5: we will see.

1261
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 4: That means it's happening.

1262
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 5: That my most proud moment as a father right there. God,

1263
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 5: that was so amazing. The smile in that little girl's

1264
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 5: face was all fucking time. So yeah, we're gonna go today,

1265
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 5: first one of the season.

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00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 4: Shall we jump into the episode, jump into the interview.

1267
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, enjoy it.

1268
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 4: Big hugs, Hey, big hugs, Tiny Case. So you're watching

1269
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 4: right now, make sure again make sure you subscribe, support

1270
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 4: the boys, help the boys out. Leave comments along the episode.

1271
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 4: We've had a hell of a run this year so far.

1272
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 4: Faull Tore is officially done.

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00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: Done.

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00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 4: We wrapped it up this weekend, last weekend at their or.

1275
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 4: The last college stop was Tennessee. We were at the

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00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 4: Patriot Titans game this weekend. The boys are done. I

1277
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 4: will be in the trenches starting next week. Baby number

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00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 4: two comes, Baby number two comes, little girl. Hope everything

1279
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 4: goes well, but that begins. But now you know fall

1280
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 4: towards done. We had a hell of a run and

1281
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 4: uh yeah, enjoy this episode. Boys. Yeah, shout out. Sean Merriman,

1282
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 4: pray for a fight, love you big outside of kids.

1283
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: Tase to Michael Vick, fresh out of jail, Fast out

1284
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: of jail. I was like, what field have they got

1285
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: as longer than forty yards? Why are you still fast?

1286
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1287
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 4: Shout of jail motivated.

1288
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 5: Some cats come out of prison. Mike Tyson when he

1289
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 5: came out of prison. He was just meaner and bigger

1290
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 5: and buffer than he's ever been in Are we rolling?

1291
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 5: We are rolling. Hey, let's give a round. Flash Merriman

1292
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 5: joining us on the bus. Just landed in Nashville, Tennessee.

1293
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 5: Just came to hang out with the boys. We appreciate

1294
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 5: you stopping by.

1295
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: Man, appreciate it. I appreciate you not.

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00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 5: First off, want to give you a shout out for

1297
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 5: the coolest nickname of all time high school nickname lights Out.

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01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 5: So when I was at Google and just doing a

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01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 5: little bit of research on you, you put.

1300
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 4: More time out of time out before you get into

1301
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 4: that story. I got to ask, Okay, do you remember

1302
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 4: responding to me on a Vernon Davis Instagram post?

1303
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: Uh?

1304
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 4: Is this by two thousand and fifteen?

1305
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: Is this when he got kicked off the field? Was singletary?

1306
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 4: No, this is when he was on Washington Okay, and

1307
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 4: he was doing like a like a sponsor post. Yeah,

1308
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 4: his shirt off and he was like dipping in some

1309
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 4: supplements and I was getting on just busting his ball,

1310
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 4: and Sean was like defending Vernon against me, like about

1311
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 4: to beat your ass. Yeah, I remember, I remember Veron

1312
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 4: like seaning.

1313
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: Know that you were just busting ball, having a good time,

1314
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: having time. So just backstort like Vernon runs like my

1315
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: little brother, like brother, yeah, and I know versus like

1316
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: fifteen years old. I didn't know the relationship then.

1317
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 5: You know, me see a mouthy white guy and you're

1318
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 5: like when I.

1319
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 4: Was trying to scroll and see but he had he

1320
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 4: doesn't have posts like beyond like two thousand in nineteen.

1321
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 4: But it was back when he was on the same team.

1322
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 4: And I remember when Sean had responded to me. I'm

1323
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 4: just thinking, I texted Vernon my you know, let know

1324
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 4: good what I can't Oh he was laughing. He's like, oh,

1325
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 4: it's a good dude. He's a good you know Vernon

1326
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 4: the nicest. Yes, yes, yes, but I had do you.

1327
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 5: Kidd me what you like? Sherman the back. You missed

1328
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:22,919
Speaker 5: that official.

1329
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: Hair with the the uh little flavor landing trip down there.

1330
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 5: That thing is why I got a one.

1331
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: I got a fresh wine, right.

1332
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was your That was your ice brinker at

1333
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 5: the bar, that little thing hanging down off the lip.

1334
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: For sure. I got the LRG allergy was hot at

1335
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: that time too. Everybody had fun analogy.

1336
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 5: That is so funny. But yeah, we as I was

1337
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 5: saying before we went down memory lane with you for

1338
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 5: a second, high school, Yeah, put four players unconscious in

1339
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 5: the first half of a high school football game. Yeah,

1340
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 5: what's real, man?

1341
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so so what happened. So what happened was

1342
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: it was it was a school that was like talking

1343
01:01:58,360 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: a lot. They were talking a lot of ship like

1344
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: leading up to the game. And my coaches when I

1345
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: was young, when I was then, they would egg me

1346
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: on by every clipping is to come out. Everything in

1347
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: the local newspaper. They would Washington Post, come out, they

1348
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: would send me everything, gassing me up. So I can't

1349
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: wait to get to this game now, And so I

1350
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: just started like striking people right. And I remember like

1351
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: a like parents were coming on the field, like standing

1352
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: in the end zone, grabbing the rest, grabbing a commissioner.

1353
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: Basically saying that the coaches were held me back for

1354
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: two years, like I was like two or three years older.

1355
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 4: Than well they thought you were like not, no, that was.

1356
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, not knowing that that I was youngest,

1357
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: you know. So like even when I got drafted, I

1358
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 1: was twenty years old. When I got drafted, I.

1359
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 4: Was like a Bishop Sycamore situation. Yeah, right, that's a

1360
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:44,959
Speaker 4: good poll.

1361
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: And so uh and so that happened after the game,

1362
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: about twenty twenty five suits coming run under me and

1363
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: they said, you knock those kids lights out. And I just,

1364
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: you know, kind of played it off cool. I didn't

1365
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: think it was gonna happen. I said, yeah, you know what,

1366
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: call me lights out. And I got to school on

1367
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: Monday and I got my back my backpack on and

1368
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: I got my books in my hand, and it was like, yo,

1369
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: good game, lights And I'm like, shit, you know, it's

1370
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 1: kind of caught on already, and people, you know, heard

1371
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: about it. And so I went home. I rushed home

1372
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: to my to my mom. My mom smoked a ton

1373
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: of cigarettes. I got the room and I'm waving the smoke.

1374
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: I can't even see my mom and shit, she's doing

1375
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: the smoking cigarettes all day. Yeah, And I said, ma,

1376
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: look this. You know, people called me lights so I

1377
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: don't want to get this this lights out tattooed on

1378
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: my right forearm. And she looked at me and smoked

1379
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: a cigarette one more time and said, boy, get the

1380
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 1: hell out of the room. Right.

1381
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 5: How old are you?

1382
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: Sixteen?

1383
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 5: Sixteen years on.

1384
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I came back every single day for two weeks,

1385
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: and finally she took me to go get this light

1386
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: switch with a hand, cutting the lights out on my

1387
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: right form and that became a thing. And so my

1388
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:48,959
Speaker 1: freshman year at the University of Maryland, we were playing

1389
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. Actually this hit is on YouTube, and it

1390
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: was my first time playing on ESPN. It was a

1391
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: night Friday or Friday night or Saturday night game on ESPN.

1392
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't starting, but they put me in the game

1393
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: and I'm dry up and back in the flats. The

1394
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: wide receiver Walkings come running across the field, dragging across

1395
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: the field, and I just and then that was the

1396
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: first time I got up and pointed at it, like

1397
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: there it is there, it is right there. Yeah, that

1398
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: was the first time I bring that back. Wow. So

1399
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: you know, I'm seventeen. I think I think I'm seventeen

1400
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 1: at the time. I don't think I was eighteen yet.

1401
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: And they put me in a game, and so none

1402
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: of my teammates at the time they thought I came

1403
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: in with cocky all this lights out kid, and we

1404
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: not call these lights out.

1405
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 5: That's what I wanted to ask, how was the lights

1406
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 5: on first because that is the perfect yeah, like tattooed

1407
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 5: to chirp. As a freshman getting into college, all the

1408
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 5: seniors been like, hey, you.

1409
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 4: Like that dude?

1410
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: That was so I was so cocky too, Like I

1411
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: came in there like talking ship. I was like that

1412
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: that black sheep, Like, Yo, this dude, don't fucking believe

1413
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: you know, there's.

1414
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 5: A couple of seniors getting in the corner, like we

1415
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 5: got to humble this dude. First day of practice.

1416
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 4: Coaches like, hey, this guy's a psyches.

1417
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: We had a Henderson, remember, yeah, yeah, e J Henderson buckets,

1418
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: one of the best, to me, the best linebacker to

1419
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: come out of Maryland ever. And uh, he would always

1420
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: just call me freshmen or he would like call me

1421
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: something else, and they nobody would call me anything until

1422
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: that hit. And so I finally came on a sideline

1423
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: and I got ea J and those guys came up

1424
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: to me. Denarl Wilson the same you know, defense coordinator here,

1425
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: so he was my team. So none of them would

1426
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: call me lights out at all until that hit.

1427
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 5: And that was the first was the first game, now,

1428
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 5: the first time.

1429
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: I got in the game, like on that on the

1430
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: national level. That was it. Yeah, that was it.

1431
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 5: That is fucking wild man. So why Maryland?

1432
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: Uh? Because you know, for me, like I grew up

1433
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: in Prince George's County and at the time, like PG County,

1434
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: d C was bad, dude, like top five, top ten

1435
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: mertal capital of the country. Really yeah, And so so

1436
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to you know, I had offers from everywhere,

1437
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: and I committed as a junior to h to Maryland.

1438
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: But from where we came from, nobody stayed home. Like

1439
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: everybody went to Penn State, you know, Florida State at

1440
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: the national Florida State was big, Ohio, They went to

1441
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: everywhere else all the time, players went everywhere else. Nobody

1442
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: stayed home. So I was like, man, you know what

1443
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna stay home. And I was the

1444
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: first one that kind of could have went to a

1445
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: Florida State or could have went to a Florida or

1446
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: something like that and stay home. And then after me Vernon,

1447
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: we was talking about Vernon, you know, Vernon State, and

1448
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 1: a lot of guys like tour a lot of first

1449
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: we start having first round draft picks every year after that.

1450
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 1: But at the time, I think I was a I

1451
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: might have been the highest drafted player from Maryland, but dude,

1452
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 1: it was hard. I didn't take any visits, and Miami

1453
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: was coming to my you know, coming to the game,

1454
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: my basketball, you know games. I was playing it hooping

1455
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: in the off season with the with some of the

1456
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: Maryland basketball players. They would be walking around like off campus.

1457
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: They were trying to get me to to Miami. So

1458
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: if I would have took my visit, it would have

1459
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: been to Miami. I would have gone to And.

1460
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 5: If you showed up in Miami, you probably would have

1461
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 5: committed on the spot.

1462
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. Yeah, dude, they took me to the

1463
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: strip club or some shit out there. I would have been.

1464
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 5: They do strip clubs like malls out there, the three stories.

1465
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 5: It's crazy, the whole time of convenience.

1466
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 4: You were good at basketball and track.

1467
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: Too, right, Yeah, basketball for sure. So I grew up

1468
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: uh on the AAU team. So in the same AAU team.

1469
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 1: It was like me, Michael Beasley, KD. Nolan Smith woud

1470
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: up going to Douke and he played I think for

1471
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: the playing the NBA for like six seven years. It

1472
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: was like ten of us. They went all through like

1473
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: the same AAU team and then The problem was I start,

1474
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,919
Speaker 1: I started growing here, getting wider, and then everybody else,

1475
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: like Beasley and all these other guys, they just kept,

1476
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: you know, going that way. But yeah, Beasley, we practically

1477
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: grew up in the same neighborhood and the same house.

1478
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: Like Beasley at ten nineteen years old was at my house.

1479
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: We were growing up, Yeah, all of us.

1480
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 4: Was there anything like was it family ties? This stuff

1481
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 4: that kept you and kept you in Maryland?

1482
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1483
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 4: Why you didn't want to visit any of these other

1484
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 4: prestigious D one programs.

1485
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did because I think for me, my coaches

1486
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: took care of me in high school. So we lost

1487
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: we were homeless. We lost our house house to fires

1488
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: because my mom couldn't pay to pay the bills and

1489
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: we so she lit candles because we couldn't afford the lights,

1490
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: and lights got cut off and gas got cut off

1491
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: and one of the candles that burned through and we

1492
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 1: burned a whole house down. And so I ended up

1493
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: moving with uh. I ended up moving with my coaches,

1494
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: and so I was like, man, my coaches took me

1495
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 1: and they didn't have to do that, you know, they

1496
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: didn't have to take me in So I'm not going

1497
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: to say I felt obligated, but all of a sudden

1498
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: the same time, I'm like these everybody wanted to see

1499
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: me play and not have to fly out or go anywhere.

1500
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 1: So it was it was a lot of decisions, man.

1501
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: And then too, they just came off of a I

1502
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 1: think the Gator Ball they played at Florida and the

1503
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: Gator Bowls, like the two thousand and something like that. Yeah,

1504
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: and then we played in the I played in two

1505
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 1: Gator and then peace bawl.

1506
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 5: When you so you talk about being homeless, you're losing

1507
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 5: your house all that, and then you know, having the

1508
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 5: success you did in the NFL and have this entrepreneurial

1509
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 5: spirit you had, Where did that come from? Because obviously,

1510
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 5: given the circumstances you just laid out for everybody, it

1511
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,719
Speaker 5: would be easy to fold and go into this life

1512
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 5: that you know, you should probably see a lot of

1513
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 5: people around you going into what was different for you?

1514
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: It was it was different man, because you like when

1515
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 1: we when I was growing up, you started seeing like

1516
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: all the dealers and stuff drive up and they got benches,

1517
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: you know. But I'll say this though a lot of

1518
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: like the of the of the drug dealers and stuff

1519
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: where we grew up at They never let me stay around,

1520
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: so like if something was ever going down or something

1521
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: was around, they were telling me to leave the basketball court,

1522
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 1: get out of here, stay away. So it was it

1523
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: was actually the opposite of you know, everybody like, oh,

1524
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: come in here, do this, do this bad stuff. They

1525
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: like me, get out of here because they knew I

1526
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,600
Speaker 1: had potential to go play on that level. Yeah, you know,

1527
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: that was a good kid and that was all. I

1528
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: was like really into sports and so believe it or not, man,

1529
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,839
Speaker 1: it was just like take your little.

1530
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 5: As they tell you, Hey, something about to go down here.

1531
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 4: You out here?

1532
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no way.

1533
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 5: Leonard Fournette, I think he told a similar story growing

1534
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 5: up because he was so talented in high school and

1535
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 5: all that. There were like anytime any of that stuff

1536
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 5: was going to go down there like hey, you got

1537
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 5: to get out of here. That's kind of a nice

1538
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 5: little deal.

1539
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 4: When did you know you were going to be a

1540
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 4: guy in the NFL, Like while you're playing in college.

1541
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 5: Well, probably knocks for people unconscious and.

1542
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: So uh my after that game that I had my

1543
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: sophomore year was my first big interview with ESPN because

1544
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: I was like ranked in the country now coming out

1545
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: in high school? Do I got no media training? Like,

1546
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: we don't where I come from, We didn't never, no

1547
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 1: one ever put a camera in our face and tell

1548
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: us what to say. So at that point I'm speaking

1549
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 1: from the heart right, So the reporter come up this.

1550
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: Remember they had the old school tape recorders and the

1551
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 1: recorder and they let you talk. So we pres tate recorder,

1552
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 1: got us no pad. Right here in the ESPN guy said,

1553
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: do you play? You play the game hard? You know,

1554
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: you got a lot of passion out there, Like what

1555
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 1: what made you get in the Why do you play

1556
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 1: like this? What made you get into football? I said, sir,

1557
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 1: I can do anything I want anybody, and I go

1558
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: to jail.

1559
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 5: Sorry, could you hey, just being like a six foot

1560
01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 5: two hundred pound offensive lineman reading that news article, Still

1561
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 5: you're playing him next week?

1562
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 1: He pressed it, He pressed it stop butting it. Just

1563
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 1: looked at me thirty second dude, you go to jail

1564
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: like you get in trouble. But I think I think,

1565
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: for me, honestly that the truth is. Now look back

1566
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 1: on it and understand what I Why I said that,

1567
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 1: and you know why I came up is because it

1568
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: literally those two hours of practice or games, it was

1569
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: my way of getting away to everything I was dealing with. Yeah, right,

1570
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: so I get I get two hours to go out

1571
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: there and like unleash on anybody, right, And so that's

1572
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: what I meant. I didn't. I didn't. I could have

1573
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: framed that, you know, a lot better, but at the

1574
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: time I said that because that's that's what I believed in.

1575
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I get this chance to go

1576
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: out there and like do what I love to do

1577
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: and like not get in trouble for it. And so

1578
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 1: it just came across wrong with the truth is that's

1579
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: why I started playing.

1580
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 4: Like, when you're in college and obviously you're close to home,

1581
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 4: what are the things you're dealing with outside of having

1582
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 4: those two hours or having that escape for football.

1583
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the biggest thing for me, man, is

1584
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 1: that those two hours I forgot about everything. As soon

1585
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 1: as I walked off the field, I knew I was

1586
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 1: gonna come home to an eviction. Notice we'll come home,

1587
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 1: maybe the life were gonna be out, we didn't have food,

1588
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: But those two hours I didn't think about it at all.

1589
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 1: And then so one day my high school coach had

1590
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 1: noticed that I was. I was losing some weight and

1591
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: because we didn't we didn't have food, and so he,

1592
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 1: you know, then he started kind of stepping in, and

1593
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,640
Speaker 1: you know, my dad wasn't Me and my dad got

1594
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: a pretty good relationship now, but he wasn't around at

1595
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: the time, and so he started to you know, take

1596
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 1: care of you things, make sure we had food, and

1597
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: got us got me a computer so I can start

1598
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: doing my homework and stuff like that. So at that time,

1599
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 1: I was my It was my first time talking about

1600
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 1: like how I was living. Matter of fact. So Mike

1601
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 1: Loxley was the head coach now in Maryland. He was

1602
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 1: a runner back coach at Maryland at the time. He

1603
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 1: recruited me, and so he's a head coach now Maryland.

1604
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 1: We were we were in such back con dishes. When

1605
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: I committed to Maryland, Ralph Frieding and Locksley was going

1606
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,640
Speaker 1: to come to my place, but we stay. It was

1607
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: so bad that I didn't want them to see where

1608
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: where I live. So I committed to them and they

1609
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:10,600
Speaker 1: never took a home visit or anything like that. I

1610
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 1: would always tell them that I'll come to the school

1611
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,640
Speaker 1: because I didn't want them to see where and how

1612
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 1: I was living, and so he didn't even really know

1613
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,839
Speaker 1: until later on that we were living in those conditions

1614
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: because I was just for me. I was embarrassed, you know.

1615
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: I was embarrassed to let people know that we were

1616
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: living like that, you know. And so looking back on

1617
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: it now, in a weird way, you like thankful, you know,

1618
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 1: I mean like thankful for a little bit because it

1619
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 1: gave me another layer of skin that most people don't have,

1620
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: you know. And when you talk about the stuff I

1621
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 1: got going now, like it was like a preparation for

1622
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: all the stuff that I'm doing now.

1623
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 5: And I'm sure you don't do this a whole lot,

1624
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 5: because anybody who has an entrepreneurship spirit usually just looks

1625
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 5: onto the next thing. Yeah, but if you ever do

1626
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 5: have an opportunity, you're sitting in your house, in your

1627
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 5: living room and it's nighttime, and you just think to

1628
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 5: your wow, look what I like. Look what I've made

1629
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 5: versus what I've come from. It just adds so much

1630
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 5: to your story and how cool of the story it.

1631
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 4: Is it is.

1632
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 1: I I used to because I always hated the rags

1633
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 1: to riches. I like, like, dude, So you're right, that's

1634
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 1: exactly how I looked at it because it was almost

1635
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: it was always like the next thing, and I get

1636
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: up the next days the next thing, next thing, next thing.

1637
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 1: And then you do get those subtle moments, especially when

1638
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: you come and somebody from your past, like an old friend,

1639
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 1: old somebody who knew you back then, and they see

1640
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: your house now, right, they see how you're living and

1641
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: see you know that you got all these amazing things

1642
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 1: going on from in the media, that you get that

1643
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 1: real quick reminder of what you have gone through.

1644
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, how speaking of seeing old people, how did your

1645
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 5: relationships change as you started to find success in money

1646
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 5: with these guys like you, like you get drafted right

1647
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 5: first round. People want to come see you in San

1648
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 5: Diego at the time where the charges were playing, like

1649
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 5: how did you navigate those hands out and being hey,

1650
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 5: you gotta help us out? You know how we helped you. Yeah,

1651
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 5: maybe a couple of those guys that said hey, leave

1652
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 5: the basketball court. They want to put their hand out

1653
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 5: and say, hey, we helped you with all this.

1654
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 1: It's tough, especially when you come from where we came from,

1655
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 1: because there's a certain level of like you owe me

1656
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 1: right for being a friend, or somebody that that might

1657
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 1: have loaned your coat or something at that time. Now

1658
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 1: they want a car. You're like, hold on, man, you

1659
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 1: let me use a coat for two weeks. Right now

1660
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: you want a car. I mean, you know, it's a

1661
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 1: weird believe it or not. Mean, it happens more when

1662
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: you come from that area, those type of areas, it

1663
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 1: happens a lot. And so what I did do was

1664
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 1: I took care of my high school. You know, donated

1665
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: probably overall, probably three hundred and fifty thousand of my

1666
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 1: high school, built them a new gym, they got new

1667
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 1: fields and stuff like that. I did all that. So

1668
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 1: everybody that kind of took care of me, like my coaches,

1669
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: you know, help them get a new house. You know.

1670
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 1: So everybody who took care of me at that time,

1671
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 1: I took care of everybody else immediately. That was the

1672
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: first thing. I bought my house, bought my car, But

1673
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: the first thing I did was everybody who took care

1674
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 1: of me and helped me get there when I didn't

1675
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: have shit. I was like, I'm taking care of them first.

1676
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, what about the people trying to come back into

1677
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,560
Speaker 4: the fold where it's like you obviously have certain boundaries

1678
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 4: with people, but people that are beyond that boundary, who

1679
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 4: are trying to get in the mix as well.

1680
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was, you know who I felt was going

1681
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 1: to be the first one because I told you my

1682
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 1: dad wasn't around. I felt my dad was going to

1683
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: be the first one to pop up. Yeah, you know,

1684
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:24,640
Speaker 1: and he didn't.

1685
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 4: I was thinking about when you were like, I didn't

1686
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 4: necessarily have a good relationship with him. You have a

1687
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 4: good relationship with m Yeah. I'm curious at how that

1688
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 4: started to come about.

1689
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 1: So I talked to I talked to my dad one

1690
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 1: time on the phone. So I didn't see my dad

1691
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 1: from the ages of ten or eleven till the first

1692
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:42,600
Speaker 1: time I talked to him on the phone when I

1693
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: was eighteen, and I didn't see him see him in

1694
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 1: person until I was twenty six or twenty seven. So

1695
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 1: I didn't see my dad in person from ages of

1696
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 1: ten to twenty seven. I reached out to him. I

1697
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 1: reached out to him my Freshmania a versity Maryland because

1698
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 1: I had questions. I just like, you know, like you

1699
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,719
Speaker 1: got you wanted personality trades. Do you like this? And

1700
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,759
Speaker 1: you know, one of the first things we talked about

1701
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 1: is like he's always slept with the TV on, and

1702
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, I can't sleep the TV off. Yeah,

1703
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: So it was you know, little things like that, and

1704
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 1: so anyway, we talked. We talked for four hours on

1705
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 1: the lick, three or four hours on the phone, and

1706
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 1: he said, look, I'm not gonna be that way. I

1707
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't around this my this is my address, this is

1708
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:31,440
Speaker 1: my number. Reach out and call me whenever you want.

1709
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna be that guy, you know. So

1710
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: I respected that, and so I didn't see him to

1711
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 1: my final game in Buffalo. This is one of the

1712
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 1: reasons I'm first I might even talking about this, one

1713
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: of the reason why I retired, and Buffalo actually offered

1714
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 1: me to come back for two years. Doug Whaley did

1715
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm done. When I knew I

1716
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: was going to retire, my dad I called him and

1717
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: I said, hey, he never seen a game, He's never

1718
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 1: came a game before. So he drove from Atlanta to

1719
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 1: Buffalo and it was my first time seeing him. I

1720
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 1: was staying downtown Buffalo. He came, his wife came up

1721
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 1: the elevated walked around. I seen her first and my

1722
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 1: dad was walking like super slow around the corner and

1723
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: he was just like bawling because I for the last

1724
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 1: first last te I seen him when I was ten

1725
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 1: years old. And so anyway, you know, we came up

1726
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 1: and you know, we hugged and we talked and stuff

1727
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: a little bit, and uh, he took he had a

1728
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 1: jacket on. And so we had like three of the

1729
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 1: same tattoos in the same areas, just different like I, uh,

1730
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 1: I got a money thing here. He had the same one,

1731
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: but it was smaller. Yeah, it's the weirdest thing. We

1732
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: had three of the same tattoos in the same area, dude,

1733
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 1: And I've never seen him since I was ten years old. See,

1734
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: it was the freakiest thing. And then after we started

1735
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit more. You you can never

1736
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: repair if fully right, you can't make it really make

1737
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 1: up that time. But now we got up. We got

1738
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 1: a pritty your relationship.

1739
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 5: And that was the last football game you ever played. Yeah,

1740
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 5: and I retired right after really really, and so what

1741
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 5: was the reason why you didn't want to go two

1742
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:02,879
Speaker 5: more years?

1743
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 1: Well, I told I told my achilles, and so I

1744
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 1: could still play. Dude, when you tell the achilles, you

1745
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 1: lose your exploit, Like you can't push off, like he

1746
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 1: wants to and no mobility starts hurting every It was

1747
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 1: all of it, and you know I just wasn't. I

1748
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 1: wasn't the same anymore. And I couldn't. For me, I

1749
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 1: was so damn competitive. I couldn't take being averaging, you know,

1750
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 1: going out there, even if even if Buffalo was gonna

1751
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 1: pay me, I just couldn't. I couldn't take because and

1752
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 1: they knew it, like Buddy nixt like, yo, you're not

1753
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 1: what you was, but we need you in the locker room.

1754
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 1: Like it's a locker room. God said, dude, I can't

1755
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 1: watch that shit on film.

1756
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 4: I can't.

1757
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 1: I can't put that out there.

1758
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 5: Talk to me about that feeling though when you turn

1759
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 5: on the film and if you think to yourself, man,

1760
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 5: I that angle I used to take, I could get

1761
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 5: that guy or I could cover that thing like that.

1762
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden you're watching You're like, bro,

1763
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 5: it's just not there anymore. What did that? What is

1764
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 5: that feeling like? And when did you like notice it?

1765
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: I think I think for US athletes, we're the last

1766
01:19:56,560 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 1: ones that always always know we need to retire, like everybody,

1767
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,719
Speaker 1: like everybody said, like dude, like come on, yeah, Mike Rabel.

1768
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 5: He when he had to retire, he literally came home

1769
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 5: and his wife was like, you see this, Like you

1770
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 5: gotta be done. Yeah, He's like, oh shit, are you serious?

1771
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 5: So you're right, absolutely.

1772
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's how that's how it was. And we

1773
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 1: had a uh, we had a rookie that came in.

1774
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: We were in training camp and the rookie, I know,

1775
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 1: gave play linebacker. He was like, you know, three or

1776
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 1: four behind me, was trying to make the team as

1777
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: a special teams guy. And uh, he said in the

1778
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 1: middle of training camp, he said, man, I just I

1779
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 1: got to tell you man, you know, you're one of

1780
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 1: my favorite players in like high school. And I was thinking,

1781
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 1: I was like, shit, what two three? And I was doing,

1782
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, doing the math, and I was thinking to myself, like, man,

1783
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 1: it's about that time. You know, it's about that time.

1784
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 1: And so I ended retiring after that year.

1785
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 4: Coming into the league being a first rounder, talk about

1786
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 4: talk about your time like when you first burst on

1787
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:52,679
Speaker 4: the scene.

1788
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: I you know, what's what's crazy is that he was

1789
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: talking about Vernon like me and Vernon had some epic

1790
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: battles in practice, just stud and we had a fence

1791
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 1: outside and the students used to go up to the

1792
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 1: fence and like cut holes in the in the thing

1793
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:07,640
Speaker 1: just to watch me and Vernon go and do one

1794
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 1: on ones. It was a line every day we did

1795
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 1: one on ones outside of practice to watch me and Vernon.

1796
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 4: Like go at it.

1797
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I felt like, you know, going against

1798
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 1: Vernon every day. And then Vernon was just Cox. It

1799
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 1: was strong dude, like just Vern's like the most physical

1800
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 1: Freakis player that I ever play him at Rama Antonio

1801
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 1: cramartin the two Freakings players I played with. And so

1802
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 1: when I got there, I think, like, okay, I've seen Vernon.

1803
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 1: Then you got Antonio Gates, you know, sitting right in

1804
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 1: front of your practice, and like god damn, you know.

1805
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 1: And so I walked in. I was late. I was

1806
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 1: late to camp because I had an injury clause. And

1807
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 1: so I'm seeing everybody talk Cluton, Philip, They're talking shit

1808
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: about me in the media, like he should be here.

1809
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: Who does he think he is? It was like just

1810
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 1: my rookie year, and I didn't go to any mini camp.

1811
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 1: I showed up two weeks before the first game. I

1812
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 1: did Old c Yeah, this old CBA, this was yeah

1813
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: before this whole CBA thing changed, and you know, they

1814
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 1: injury clause in my contract that I didn't want to

1815
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 1: go out there and do anything because if I got hurt,

1816
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 1: then they didn't have to pay technically because of the contract,

1817
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:14,720
Speaker 1: and it was more of like a good faith thing.

1818
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, that's not a bit yeah,

1819
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 1: And so I finally we got the contract situate. I

1820
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 1: got there and it was like a week and a half,

1821
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 1: two weeks before the first game, not recent game, but

1822
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 1: I remember everybody talking shit in the like Philip and

1823
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 1: everybody should usually should be here, And I said, dude,

1824
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 1: this first day I get up there, somebody getting their

1825
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 1: ass handed to him. First day, whoever it is. And

1826
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 1: so we got we got. The first day I got

1827
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 1: there was pad. We had a first padded practice. We

1828
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 1: had almost four or five thousand fans in practice, and

1829
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 1: everything I did crap. I was going over the bags

1830
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 1: just you'd have thought I scored. Every time I did

1831
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 1: something right. Fans just going crazy because that was the

1832
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: first time they saw me out there. We go to

1833
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 1: one on one pass rushing drills with the running backs

1834
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: and full backs, which is the most unfair drill for

1835
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 1: running all yeah, unless you got Lorenzo Neil, right, Yeah,

1836
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: so I didn't. I didn't give a damn who was

1837
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 1: in front of me. Somebody was gonna somebody was gonna

1838
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 1: get it because I have this pent up anger because

1839
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 1: I'm sitting at home and back in Maryland and I'm

1840
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 1: seeing all these like he should be here and know

1841
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 1: all that ship. And so we go out there and

1842
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 1: my first one on one is against Lorenzo O'Neil, and

1843
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 1: I went and boom, blew him up, low nill he

1844
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: falls over. I stepping over him, you know, hyping it up,

1845
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 1: just throwing gas from the fire. And it was the

1846
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 1: worst mistake ever made ever. Why Lorenzo O'Neil, bro listen,

1847
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 1: you're going into that.

1848
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 4: Rep thing and there's no for a dode.

1849
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 1: I'm not making move on running straight through it was

1850
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 1: there was no half man nothing. I went straight down

1851
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: the middle, blew him up, and I mean, the crowd's

1852
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: going crazy. I go back around and I'm going against

1853
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 1: I'm in the front line about to go again. It's

1854
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 1: somebody else up there, but Nzo Neil grabbed him, picked

1855
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 1: him up, and then pushed him out the way so

1856
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 1: he can go again. And at that moment I said,

1857
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: oh ship, I said something, something.

1858
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 5: Doesn't feel right here, something something Maryland High School people

1859
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 5: would have been like, you go ahead and take him.

1860
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 1: So I went up again and I tried to pull

1861
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 1: the same mess I did the first time. No no shake,

1862
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: half man. I was right down the middle. And when

1863
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 1: I did that, low Nell stood me straight up in

1864
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 1: the air, and I felt like my blood rushed to

1865
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 1: my finger you know that tingled your arms that I

1866
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 1: had nothing my fingers. Both arms I never had, you know,

1867
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 1: typically would get a stinger in one shoulder, one armed.

1868
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 1: Both arms were just numb, and felt like my blood

1869
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:58,560
Speaker 1: had left my back of my body went all the

1870
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: way to the front of my face. Dude, I my

1871
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 1: face was burning, itching, and I was like, oh my god.

1872
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 1: And so after that, me and O'Neill came up with

1873
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 1: this thing that we had a brother in law. The

1874
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: brother in law yeah, yeah, because we realized that if

1875
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 1: we kept doing that, somebody wouldn't gonna make it to

1876
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 1: the game. We knew we had it like, so we

1877
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: had it out. That was the last time I ever

1878
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 1: tested Loneill. He's the worst mistake that I ever did

1879
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 1: in my life. Still to this day, dude, that's the worst, but.

1880
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 4: Maybe the sacrifice for the best kind of business move

1881
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 4: because now you're not having to Yes.

1882
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 1: Yes, it was a vet move. And so I think

1883
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 1: that when we when we did that, every time that

1884
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 1: they ran a power or something like that, we just

1885
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 1: got within a few in each other and just let up.

1886
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 1: I got my spot. He got in this spot where

1887
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 1: good coaches said nothing to us after that at all,

1888
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:50,680
Speaker 1: because they knew if we kept banging like we were,

1889
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 1: somebody wasn't gonna make it to the game. And Loneill

1890
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 1: is the realest you ever want to deal with. But

1891
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 1: I think it at that time, and then I didn't

1892
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: know this. Two years later, Antonio Gates said that the

1893
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 1: tight ends were watching that in the meeting. Roybody, shit,

1894
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:05,679
Speaker 1: I ain't blocking his ass.

1895
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 5: As a rookie too.

1896
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, damn bro.

1897
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 5: Did he say anything? Do you after that rep?

1898
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 2: No?

1899
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 1: But you know, I started to work out with O'Neil

1900
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 1: every day after practice. Lodill was twelve years in at

1901
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 1: this time. I'm a rookie dude, and I couldn't keep

1902
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 1: up like low Neil was just on a different planet.

1903
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 1: And so I just got with him and I started

1904
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 1: training with him ever, like three four days a week

1905
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: after practice we would go hit it.

1906
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was the hardest work on that team.

1907
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.

1908
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 4: You guys had some fucking squads, bro. It was always

1909
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 4: surprising that you guys just didn't get over that hump man.

1910
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you know what kind of because like

1911
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:50,560
Speaker 1: we all put this these emphasis on championships, right, and

1912
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 1: but I will say this, and I know the Patriots

1913
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 1: you know, won rings and stuff during that time. I

1914
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: think in that mid two thousands we were the best

1915
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 1: team that never want to changemionship and within that you know,

1916
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 1: two thousand and five twenty ten range, we were so dominant.

1917
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 1: I mean, hell man, our practices some days were harder

1918
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 1: because we had Marty shot Hummer dude. And Marty was

1919
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,719
Speaker 1: a type that you love him to death. But Marty

1920
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 1: was a hard ass. You know, he had his times

1921
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 1: where in training him, he'll just gonna tap you and

1922
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 1: just have you doing Oklahoma drills with with the lineman

1923
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 1: or running back like before practice. This is the this

1924
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 1: is the pro. Yeah, pre practice, pre practice fully warmed up,

1925
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 1: not even once you go through the warm ups, no drills. No,

1926
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 1: it was like soon as you warm up. We went

1927
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 1: over to the other field. That's Oklahoma.

1928
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 5: Dre call the boys up, call, Hey, here's what we

1929
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 5: got here, and these calls.

1930
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 4: Out two numbers, that's it.

1931
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: And you got a defensive lineman, an offensive lineman or linebacker,

1932
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,600
Speaker 1: and a full back and it just smacked.

1933
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 5: It that dude, is that not the ultimate judgment? Like

1934
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:50,640
Speaker 5: when they when the coach calls it up, it's like,

1935
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 5: all right, we got five to one and seven seven

1936
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 5: going out of here. In the Oklahoma drill, you're just

1937
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 5: like a hi. Either you're thinking yourself bro, like this

1938
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 5: dude's a beast, or you're thinking like, if I don't

1939
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 5: win this, I'm gonna catch hell forever. And it's basically

1940
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 5: just hey, you guys got to prove it to me

1941
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:04,720
Speaker 5: right now.

1942
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,679
Speaker 1: And you got everybody watching everybody, so you can if

1943
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 1: you got practice, somebody block you or something. It's covered

1944
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: up maybe on film maybe, but if you get blasted

1945
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma drills and everybody's around you, everybody.

1946
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 5: They're jumping over you to get to the guy, and hey,

1947
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 5: hey hell yeah yeah, what were the meeting rooms?

1948
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 6: Like?

1949
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 5: Was he exposing a lot of guys Like if you

1950
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 5: fucked up in practice, we are sitting there and you're like, please, God,

1951
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:28,719
Speaker 5: don't go to this place.

1952
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 1: So he he was like the Marty can get you

1953
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,759
Speaker 1: to run through a wall. Like he gave these speeches

1954
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 1: that you want you would get up. I don't care

1955
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 1: what your day was like, you were getting up and

1956
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 1: you were running through a damn wall. But he always

1957
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 1: had this thing where he would if he got too emotions,

1958
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 1: he would he would start tearing up and cry it

1959
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 1: a little bit. Right, So we had this, uh, we

1960
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 1: had this thing in the team meeting room. If we

1961
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:52,680
Speaker 1: had a good game and we're watching the film, you're

1962
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 1: talking about the film and he's pointing out either good

1963
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: or black bad plays. But when he's pointing out the

1964
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 1: good is when he started to get like that. So

1965
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 1: we out we got this thing. We started to bet, right,

1966
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 1: So everybody's bringing twenties, got hundreds. It's thousands of dollars

1967
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 1: flowing around, so everybody got cash. In the team meat

1968
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 1: room and we were it was a clock right behind

1969
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 1: Marty and we would look at this clock and we

1970
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 1: say over another a minute and a half before he cries.

1971
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 5: Right, just a minute and a half.

1972
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 1: Ninety second, No, just ninety seconds. Because so after he

1973
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 1: looked at the film and he said, you know a

1974
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 1: guy a big hustle play or running through or jumping

1975
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 1: over a pile or touchdown something big where a guy

1976
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 1: like laid his body on the line. He would get

1977
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 1: emotion about these type of things. So we we had

1978
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 1: this thing. Oh dude, it was.

1979
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 8: It was.

1980
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 1: It was like clockwork, true football guy, no straight football guy,

1981
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. And so we all got hundreds and

1982
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 1: twenty sowe I'm I'm I'm coming in there about five

1983
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 1: hundred bucks because we're we're betting now. At this point,

1984
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 1: the clock is right behind him. So soon as he

1985
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 1: turn around from Washington play the time is it starts.

1986
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 1: And so we got got in there. And then before

1987
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 1: he started to tear up, his bottom lip would always

1988
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 1: start to tremble a little bit, right, so we know

1989
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 1: it's coming. So you hear us. And then we're looking

1990
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 1: at the clock because the clock is right behind them,

1991
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 1: and you're.

1992
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 4: Like, damn you.

1993
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 1: Everybody like because they either lost or they won, right,

1994
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 1: and so you hear the guys in they're upset, and

1995
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 1: so all you hear is this crinkled up money passing down.

1996
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:29,560
Speaker 1: Let's fuck you, dude. So you know some time I

1997
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 1: walk out of there with a couple of grand Dude,

1998
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's a minute and twenty.

1999
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 5: When did he find out he had?

2000
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 1: He did?

2001
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 4: He did?

2002
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 1: He did? Uh, probably like the fourth or fifth time,

2003
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 1: and uh, we say right when he turned around, he's like,

2004
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 1: I know you mother's betting on it, and so we

2005
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:50,920
Speaker 1: we burst out start laughing, dude, because we knew that

2006
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 1: he had found out that we're betting on him. Whether

2007
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 1: he was going to cry now, but I miss Marty Man.

2008
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 4: He was.

2009
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 1: He was something else. He really he really, like you knew,

2010
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 1: like he was tough as nails, but he'll walk up

2011
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 1: to you in training camp sometime and just tap you.

2012
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 1: But hey, take you know, take the nine oh seven off. Yeah,

2013
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 1: he'll take whatever drills off to rest your body and

2014
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So we had a tough part about him.

2015
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 1: But then he had, you know the other side.

2016
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 5: He would go to some guys that put in the work.

2017
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2018
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 4: It says a lot too, like head coaches who can

2019
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 4: still motivate you through a speech, because you feel like

2020
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 4: when you go through college, you've heard all this stuff right,

2021
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 4: and then as you taste the business of the NFL,

2022
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 4: you know, it kind of gets outside the whole scope

2023
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:26,639
Speaker 4: of the team all the time. So coach, it's able

2024
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 4: to like make you feel something in this speech. I

2025
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 4: remember the first time I heard John Gruden give a

2026
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:33,560
Speaker 4: speech when I was out in Oakland. It was like

2027
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 4: my seventh year, I think, and I just remember being

2028
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 4: like motivated after a practicing back. Man, it's kind of

2029
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 4: been a while since I felt like, yeah, somebody made

2030
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 4: me feel something, like.

2031
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 5: I know, because usually I mean, especially with like Vrabel,

2032
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 5: who had for the longest time, he would always he

2033
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 5: wasn't like a motivator like tell a story, get you

2034
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 5: amped up, but he was a guy that like just

2035
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 5: always had the keys and everything. This is what we

2036
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 5: have to do to win, blah blah blah, and then

2037
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 5: we just send us out. Very rarely in the NFL

2038
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 5: do you feel that, like you know, Friday Night Lights

2039
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 5: have of motivation type ship. But in high school, bro

2040
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 5: high school coaches, I feel like if the best speeches.

2041
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 1: I think, I think now with the NFL, everything is

2042
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:10,799
Speaker 1: so like technical you so you don't get like the emotional, passional,

2043
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 1: passionate speeches. You get like you know this many times

2044
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 1: you know this many percentages and breaking down numbers and

2045
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 1: shit like you got a handful of coaches still have

2046
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 1: that that passion gets you know, gets you up and

2047
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 1: run through a wall. But for the most part, it's like,

2048
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 1: you know, culture, take the sheet out and like, hey,

2049
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 1: we were thirty seven percent of sudden says down. Yeah, right,

2050
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying. So it's become a lot

2051
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 1: more technical, like, yeah, a lot more data driven.

2052
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 5: Guys are trying to figure stuff out because I feel

2053
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 5: like the game has become sober fine, like everyone is

2054
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 5: so much faster, stronger, bigger, and techniques have gotten a

2055
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 5: lot better too, So everyone's trying to find that small

2056
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 5: little thing. You see a couple of years ago with

2057
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 5: the Patriots doing the field goal bringing a guy from

2058
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 5: the sideline and running in. That was like a new

2059
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 5: little wrinkle they throwed, and so every once in a

2060
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 5: while there's a new change. But yeah, it's very much

2061
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 5: on the on the numbers. It's a very numbers game.

2062
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:00,719
Speaker 4: We're gonna take a break from the episode this ball season.

2063
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 4: Don't walk around with helmet hair like a total rookie.

2064
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 4: You've been in the game long enough to know that

2065
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 4: how you wear your hair matters and just because your

2066
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 4: team's mascots of Wolverine doesn't mean you have to look

2067
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 4: like one up top. Keep your head in the game

2068
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 4: and go to sport Clips. Their pro stylists have mastered

2069
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 4: the X and os of men's hair, so you can

2070
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 4: get that tight fade tight fade while kicking back and

2071
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 4: watching some fade routes on TV. It's called a hail Mary,

2072
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 4: not a hair marry. So don't just go anywhere. Head

2073
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 4: over to the pros and Men's Hair that they will

2074
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 4: have a perfectly crafted game plan to make you look

2075
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:32,599
Speaker 4: your best, no halftime adjustments needed. Remember the difference between

2076
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 4: an okay cut and a great cut is called sport clips.

2077
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,800
Speaker 4: It is a game changer. Back to this episode, one

2078
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 4: thing that.

2079
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 5: Hasn't changed though is rookie hazing. Yeah, and it has

2080
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 5: changed a little bit, Like you're not as hard as

2081
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 5: it used to be. But back in your day, what

2082
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 5: was that rookie hazen like your rookie year, Because I

2083
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 5: feel like.

2084
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 4: What you talked about being cocky's probably one of those

2085
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 4: asshole rookies too, where it's like, come.

2086
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 5: On, bro, just be a part of it.

2087
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 4: Just at guys come in, they'll be like yo, I'm

2088
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:01,200
Speaker 4: not doing this. Sh It's like, yeah, God showed the cycle,

2089
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 4: like okay, so.

2090
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 1: This so okay.

2091
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 4: So this is the thing.

2092
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 2: For me.

2093
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 1: I was like if a guy asked me to carry

2094
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:10,560
Speaker 1: hell man pick stuff up, no problem. But then you

2095
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 1: got some of the guys that like go over board,

2096
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, I'm still a man, you know,

2097
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 1: for I'm not you know.

2098
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 5: Exactly what we thought.

2099
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 9: He was.

2100
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 4: Loos like good luck, yeah, and it was that.

2101
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 1: It was that, you know, I had big Jamal Way

2102
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 1: in to play detackle for us. We had we had

2103
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 1: Randall Godfrey and Donnie like Donnie Edwards. We had some

2104
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 1: real o gs and the locker room. So they told

2105
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 1: me to pick some stuff up off the field. That

2106
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:36,360
Speaker 1: no problem. But then you have to put your foot

2107
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 1: down and say listen, bro, like enough's enough. I mean

2108
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:40,400
Speaker 1: what I mean, like, what are you gonna do at

2109
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 1: this point? And then you ask him it's like okay, at.

2110
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 5: The end of that, no one really wants to fight.

2111
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what they did do to me though,

2112
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 1: They they got me with that rookie dinner. Dude, Oh

2113
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 1: how much thirty thirty two RECs no way, whole defense,

2114
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 1: whole team, so everybody, So yeah.

2115
01:34:58,120 --> 01:34:59,640
Speaker 4: Because now this guy, I feel like he's broken up

2116
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 4: off defense.

2117
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 1: No, it's so they I think they changed it after me.

2118
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 1: It was either me, it was either a dude it

2119
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 1: was it was it was a record that you don't

2120
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 1: want to have, you know, And so I think it

2121
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 1: was either me or Davis Bryant. But so they got there.

2122
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 1: And if you're four years in which you've vested after

2123
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 1: four years, right that wong two. After four years, you

2124
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 1: were invited to this rookie dinner and normally the first

2125
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:26,200
Speaker 1: round draft pick he pays. And yeah, I told this story,

2126
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 1: you know a few different times. Man, But long story show.

2127
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 1: We go to this place in Delmark called Pop and

2128
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 1: Moose Grill and I have no idea. But I just

2129
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 1: turned twenty one that season, so I got no idea,

2130
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 1: like what all this stuff costs. And you know, like bottles,

2131
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 1: don't understand it. Ud Like Drew Brees got me with

2132
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 1: like two or three the bottles of wine. It were

2133
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 1: like a thousand apiece and I got, dude, I'm thinking

2134
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 1: of wine, and so I'm saying wine in the liquor store.

2135
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 1: You think, like, okay, it's one hundred bucks to whatever, Max,

2136
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, and you find out those are thousands, and

2137
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 1: he's sitting there with bout two bottles and then in

2138
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 1: his hand like that. But me, Jamal Williams and uh

2139
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 1: and Antonio Gates was drinking like this alcohol that I

2140
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 1: didn't know at the time called Louis de bro they ordered,

2141
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 1: so they ordered one. My dumb ass, I ordered two

2142
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 1: more than not knowing how much it was, you know.

2143
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 1: So anyway we go and everybody's eating good and all

2144
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:24,640
Speaker 1: this other stuff. At the end of the night, the

2145
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 1: owner of the restaurant come and say, Sean, need to

2146
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 1: see you in the back. I was like, for what, like,

2147
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 1: bring around, ye, I'm at the chef.

2148
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 7: You know, the chef.

2149
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 1: He's a fan fan, all right, Yeah, No, that wasn't

2150
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 1: the case. He was like, man, I need to I

2151
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 1: need to see you in the back. And I'm getting

2152
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 1: frustrated at this points. I already told him twice. I

2153
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 1: said just bring the bill, man, I'm trying to, you know,

2154
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 1: get out there. So she said, please just do me

2155
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 1: a favor of calling me in the back. So I

2156
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 1: going back in the kitchen area and he gives me.

2157
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,479
Speaker 1: He gives me this receipt. Dude, to drop down like

2158
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 1: a safeway or see es to my feet cartoon, Oh dude,

2159
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 1: to my feet. I couldn't believe. And I was like, man, y'all,

2160
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 1: you need a mistake or something like did you accidentally

2161
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:10,600
Speaker 1: print it too many times? I didn't know what was

2162
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:12,679
Speaker 1: going on, and so anyway, I looked at the bottom

2163
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 1: of this thing and I lifted up and I got

2164
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 1: finally got to the bottom and it was like thirty

2165
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 1: two grand, one hundred and something dollars or something. In

2166
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:21,720
Speaker 1: my heart just I just dropped. My heart dropped to

2167
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 1: my socks. I mean, I literally my heart because I've

2168
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 1: never seen anything like this before in my life. So

2169
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 1: you know, when the bill bad and I don't know

2170
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 1: if you guys ever did this or not, but if

2171
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:33,479
Speaker 1: you're out with a group of people and somebody who's

2172
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 1: trying to divide the bill up and stuff, you start

2173
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:37,879
Speaker 1: looking at him like, dude, I didn't order garlic mash potatoes,

2174
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 1: Like the bill's thirty two grand? What the hell is? Like?

2175
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 1: What does it matter at that point? Right? But I'm

2176
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 1: so I'm sick and I'm trying to get out of

2177
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 1: this bill, and uh so I got my I got

2178
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 1: my black card, I gave him my black cart and

2179
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm hoping.

2180
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:52,639
Speaker 5: Old on all right, Yeah, that's a nice little flex,

2181
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 5: but because one car, only one with a black car.

2182
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping. I'm praying to God to this sting

2183
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 1: the clines. I'm praying for the one time you know,

2184
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 1: you're somewhere, you're traveling and you like man that Yeah.

2185
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm literally in my head, I'm begging for

2186
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 1: this thing to the decline. Dude, I'm like, please, if

2187
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 1: they called me and then I give me enough time

2188
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:16,680
Speaker 1: to go and work work a deal out or work

2189
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 1: the bill out, and they I gave it to him,

2190
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 1: and I'm and I'm hoping that when he comes back,

2191
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 1: he says, hey, you got to call him. And I

2192
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 1: was going to tell him, like, I'll just call him

2193
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 1: tomorrow or something. And just I worked the bill out separately.

2194
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:30,559
Speaker 1: Something down the road. They had me and that ship

2195
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 1: went through. Nobody called me, No, no one from American

2196
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 1: Express called me at all. Bro.

2197
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 4: I was so sick.

2198
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 1: I was so sick. I couldn't believe it. And uh,

2199
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 1: I just I was so that whole day, but my

2200
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 1: stomach was just nots I couldn't believe that just happened was.

2201
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 5: Back then, were they added gratuity already already at yeah,

2202
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 5: because it would have been way worse.

2203
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think I had the stomach to

2204
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 1: put my pen in that paper and at a tip

2205
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 1: like at that time. I don't think I could have done.

2206
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 5: You know, dude, my rookie, my rookie dinner. I literally

2207
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:06,719
Speaker 5: my credit was so bad, I had, you know whatever.

2208
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 5: I was a first round draft pick, but my credit

2209
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 5: was so bad that I had my credit card with

2210
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:12,560
Speaker 5: one thousand dollars max on it for the month. So

2211
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:14,519
Speaker 5: I'd like call my bank and be like, hey, I'm

2212
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 5: doing a rookie dinner to night. I need you to

2213
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:18,679
Speaker 5: get that max. It was like two hours, two hour process.

2214
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:19,679
Speaker 5: It's like five grand.

2215
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 4: I wish thirty two is nothing. I remember it's like

2216
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:26,720
Speaker 4: twenty something when I was thirty two is a lot.

2217
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:30,560
Speaker 4: Because it'd be like they'd have the draft picks and

2218
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 4: like that. I want to say it was like the

2219
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 4: top two or three rounds, like they'd split it. Yeah,

2220
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 4: be like twenty something grand, but they'd split it. I

2221
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 4: haven't seen like a thirty two. Yeah. I never even

2222
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 4: hurt like anything over sixteen, Like thirty two is coo.

2223
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 1: It was disgusting. I mean it was, it was.

2224
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 5: It was what we would do is we would get

2225
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 5: like towards the end, we would get the rookies, have

2226
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 5: them come in, we go to a nice place, and

2227
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,360
Speaker 5: then we get Louise shots for everybody. But we would

2228
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 5: tell the restaurant like, hey, just do one Louis shot

2229
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:56,120
Speaker 5: for whoever's paying for the dinner, and then just bring

2230
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 5: the rest of us like you know, plastic. Yeah, I

2231
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 5: had something ridiculous fuck with And then like we were

2232
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:02,680
Speaker 5: telling them, hey, am that bill up? So the bill

2233
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 5: would be like you know, at the end, like we

2234
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:06,439
Speaker 5: would do like thirteen hundred fourteen hudred bucks. It won't

2235
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:08,599
Speaker 5: be that much, but would make it look like ten thousand,

2236
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 5: fifteen thousand dollars. So they'd be sweating and hurt and

2237
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 5: you get to see the pain in their face and

2238
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 5: then you'd be hey, man, it's all good. Take a

2239
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 5: zero off that year.

2240
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 1: If my bill was ten thousand, I would have been

2241
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 1: happy as hell. Really, oh man, I would have been excited.

2242
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 1: I would have been so happy if that bill was

2243
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 1: ten k. God, because thirty two, man, it was like

2244
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:26,800
Speaker 1: a you know, at that time. The most expensive thing

2245
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 1: I would have bought was a house. Yeah, and I didn't. Well,

2246
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 1: I bought a car, but outside of that, I had

2247
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:32,759
Speaker 1: nothing that expensive.

2248
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 5: And what was that first car you were driving in, Rookie.

2249
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 1: G Wagon and I bought it. I bought the g

2250
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:40,680
Speaker 1: Wagon one hundred and fifty right there, Yeah about that,

2251
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:42,600
Speaker 1: And I said that the West Coast customs, you know

2252
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 1: when I got when I got out there decked out

2253
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 1: g wagon. But I got that car. I got that

2254
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 1: truck because of LeVar Arrington, who was who was my mentor,

2255
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 1: my bigger brother, my older brother, and I remember he

2256
01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: at the time, he was and Serena and they were

2257
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 1: coming to my games, so Vaarn Serena Williams. They were

2258
01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 1: coming my football games. And so he would drive up

2259
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 1: on the field, bro and that thing. And I just

2260
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 1: look over and I was like, man, when I get

2261
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,599
Speaker 1: some money, man, I'm I'm gonna get one.

2262
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 4: Yeah. Is that your first big purchase?

2263
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2264
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a ride off too, treo or five thousand

2265
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 4: pounds businessman.

2266
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll let them. I'll left it. At that time,

2267
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:24,720
Speaker 1: but I was blown. I was blowing it up. So

2268
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 1: I ain't good ship.

2269
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:28,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, you were definitely the rookie showing up day one

2270
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 5: with the Louis bag, Gucci.

2271
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 4: Gucci new chain, the whole thing, no doubt, the most

2272
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 4: expensive piece of jewelry you bought.

2273
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:41,719
Speaker 1: I had one hundred thousand dollars chain, like one hundred.

2274
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2275
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 1: I was definitely wearing a lot of jewels.

2276
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 4: Man.

2277
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 5: You know he spent a lot of money with that

2278
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 5: first photo they popped up with their little landing strip

2279
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:47,880
Speaker 5: right there.

2280
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah about that fashion that went on right there, I

2281
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 1: had about that was about seventy right there, sixty or seventy,

2282
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 1: but I had one it was one hundred. No ship.

2283
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:01,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you ever hazing the rookies? Not?

2284
01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:03,920
Speaker 1: You know what I used to do to guys. I

2285
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,160
Speaker 1: would I would have to break my There's the only

2286
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:07,719
Speaker 1: thing I really did. I would n't break my cleats.

2287
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 1: And because I had it wearing new shoes, so I

2288
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:11,439
Speaker 1: would let them get the blisters and ship, you know,

2289
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 1: like you have them wear them, yeah, for a practice

2290
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 1: for practice, and they've given them me no ship. Yeah. Yeah,

2291
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 1: I'd be so mad.

2292
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 5: If someone's like, you need to wear these cleats, I'm like, bro,

2293
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 5: I have to breaking my own.

2294
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 4: What are you talking about?

2295
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? That was, but that was that was as far

2296
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:26,760
Speaker 1: as I got. I didn't do anything more than that.

2297
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:28,640
Speaker 5: Dude, talk to me about So you're you're out in

2298
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 5: the Northeast, you're in Maryland, and then you get drafted

2299
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:31,439
Speaker 5: about the Chargers.

2300
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 4: Were you just like so hyped up? Have you been

2301
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 4: to California before this time?

2302
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 7: No?

2303
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:36,880
Speaker 1: Never? The only time? Well, I take that back, I

2304
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:37,679
Speaker 1: did on my visit.

2305
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:42,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so do I never even see the top thirties. Yeah, okay, gotcha.

2306
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 1: And so we got there when they when they brought

2307
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 1: me out, I never seen like palm trees and stuff

2308
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:49,519
Speaker 1: like that in person. That was my first time like

2309
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:51,920
Speaker 1: actually seeing right, you know, So going over and you

2310
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 1: see you know that peb area and you see all

2311
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 1: the water, and I said, dude, this is like a dream. Yeah. Yeah,

2312
01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:00,240
Speaker 1: if I wish I could get drafted here, this is

2313
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:00,839
Speaker 1: like paradise.

2314
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:02,559
Speaker 4: You didn't care to go all the way across the country.

2315
01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:05,400
Speaker 1: No, No, In fact, I wanted to because you know,

2316
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:09,240
Speaker 1: high school in Maryland, college in Maryland, so I actually

2317
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:11,880
Speaker 1: wanted to go, you know, got them on the West coast.

2318
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 1: So I took the trip to Dallas, I took to

2319
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:20,720
Speaker 1: the trip to Detroit, the Charges and then then Redskins

2320
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:22,040
Speaker 1: at the time because they were home.

2321
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:23,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2322
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I met with them three four and they

2323
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:29,519
Speaker 1: told me, they said, look, if we don't think you'll

2324
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:31,719
Speaker 1: be around the twelfth pick, we think we'll go somewhere

2325
01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 1: in the top five, top seven, definitely top ten. Anything

2326
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:36,720
Speaker 1: I would get outside that top ten. But I said,

2327
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 1: if you do, we're gonna We're gonna draft you. This

2328
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 1: is coming from A. J. Smith, that's the time the

2329
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:41,639
Speaker 1: general manager.

2330
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:43,400
Speaker 4: Where'd you think you were going when you were coming

2331
01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 4: in the draft?

2332
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 1: Either one of San fran or three to Cleveland. I

2333
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 1: thought I was going to either one of those. Yeah,

2334
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 1: if I didn't go there with so many options because

2335
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 1: I came out and I was like two seventy all

2336
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 1: the scouts initially thought I was like around two forty five,

2337
01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 1: and I waited in a two seventy two. So now

2338
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 1: you had they didn't know if I was gonna play

2339
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 1: outs on linebacker defensive end. They couldn't believe I was

2340
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 1: moving around like that at that size, you know, so

2341
01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:11,559
Speaker 1: they just you know, So so now it went from

2342
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 1: like possibly going top fifteen to like now that top

2343
01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:18,160
Speaker 1: five to seven, and so yeah, man, I thought I

2344
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:20,559
Speaker 1: was gonna go one of San Francy got Alex Smith

2345
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 1: went and then three to Cleveland. They chose Braylor Needwards.

2346
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 5: Uh.

2347
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 1: And then the then Redskins that year got who they got.

2348
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,719
Speaker 1: They got Calos Rogers right the cornerback from like Auburn,

2349
01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 1: Auburn right. And then I went to go meet with Dallas.

2350
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 1: And the thing is with Dallas, I met with Jerry

2351
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:39,200
Speaker 1: Jones and Bill Bill Parcells. So they told me that

2352
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 1: they want to draft me.

2353
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 4: You're thinking Bill Parcells yet you're thinking you're about to

2354
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 4: have the star on your on the side of your house.

2355
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. The room that the office that me and me,

2356
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones and Bill Parcells, and it was probably about

2357
01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:53,599
Speaker 1: the size of this bus, like this just how tight

2358
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 1: it felt really, And you got like Jerry Jones sitting

2359
01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 1: right there. You got Bill Parcells sitting there, dude. And

2360
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm a twenty I don't even think I was twenty

2361
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:03,639
Speaker 1: one yet. I think I was twenty and I'm sitting

2362
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:06,680
Speaker 1: there and do you could like I felt, it was

2363
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 1: two pop big powerhouses in the room. And you got

2364
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 1: Bill Parcells was just tough as nails, and you got

2365
01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:15,640
Speaker 1: Jerry Jerry Jones sitting right there, and so Jerry's like

2366
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 1: sitting with sitting up on the desk with his leg

2367
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 1: up on the desk and say, you know, Sean, if

2368
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 1: you you know, if you if you're there an eleven pick,

2369
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna draft you. And then Bill Parcells

2370
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 1: tells me said, yeah, we're gonna draft you. We want

2371
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:27,720
Speaker 1: you here. As soon as you get here, I'm gonna

2372
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 1: work your ass to death. This when he told me

2373
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 1: Bill Parcells. Bill Parcells said, as soon as you get here,

2374
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:35,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna work your ass to death. And in my head,

2375
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:37,559
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, man, I'm not trying to fuck. I'm

2376
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:38,400
Speaker 1: not trying to come here.

2377
01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 5: You know, real, no, no, just a little coaching, we're

2378
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:42,800
Speaker 5: gonna work.

2379
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:44,000
Speaker 4: That's good enough for me.

2380
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 5: Were you surprised going from like, well, this is a

2381
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:48,920
Speaker 5: big spress for me. Is like being in college and

2382
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:51,479
Speaker 5: seeing the facilities and then going to places I haven't

2383
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 5: been in the Charges facility in San Diego but notoriously

2384
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 5: a very cheap franchise, and so you kind of see

2385
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:58,719
Speaker 5: all these other ones. Were you surprised at how maybe

2386
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:01,400
Speaker 5: the Charges were or washed was compared to Dallas.

2387
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 1: Well, you you know. I mean, you always got this

2388
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 1: this thing with like America's team anyway, Like you got

2389
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,240
Speaker 1: this a Dallas Cowboys, and people just knew they were

2390
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:11,519
Speaker 1: like the team, the team. Yeah, and then you know

2391
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:14,920
Speaker 1: it's Texas football in general is just a whole different beast.

2392
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 1: But then you got Dallas Cowboys. And for me, when

2393
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:20,000
Speaker 1: I got to San Diego, it was more like, dude,

2394
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:21,799
Speaker 1: I stepped I got off the plane. It was seventy

2395
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 1: five degrees and the best weather you can have asked.

2396
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:27,960
Speaker 1: It was almost not real, Like it just didn't it

2397
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:31,600
Speaker 1: didn't feel rich. Taxes Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, you know,

2398
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 1: but you make enough money, you're not thinking about that

2399
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 1: at the time. Now as much as I know now,

2400
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm like.

2401
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:42,679
Speaker 5: You know, right, goddamn, just going like, oh my god,

2402
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 5: you know.

2403
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 1: That Bill Parcel, like please work, my please work.

2404
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:49,920
Speaker 5: Right in the state of Texas, I could have say

2405
01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:53,840
Speaker 5: so much money, Yeah, no doubt, dude. And it is

2406
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 5: crazy too because like I don't know, let's just say this,

2407
01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:59,479
Speaker 5: taxes were the same in Texas As or California was

2408
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 5: the same as tex Bro It beat the most overflooded

2409
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 5: state of all time. It is so beautiful, it is

2410
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:06,480
Speaker 5: such a beautiful place, especially southern California.

2411
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 1: I still argue with people, I think the San Diego

2412
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 1: is the best places in the country.

2413
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:12,680
Speaker 4: It might be like you know, I just a lot

2414
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:14,720
Speaker 4: of people feel that way, especially when they've had like

2415
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:18,560
Speaker 4: a month or two there. Ye yeah, yeah, I was

2416
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 4: just there two months ago for four or five days. Yeah, dude,

2417
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:22,640
Speaker 4: you go.

2418
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 5: That's where I would train in the off season. I

2419
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 5: would go to Encinitas, Oh yeah, and I would be

2420
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:28,280
Speaker 5: in Carlsbad at the Excess over there, And I was

2421
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 5: just like, dude, this is unbelievable.

2422
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 1: It just seems like, you know, constant vacation on a

2423
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:34,800
Speaker 1: permanent vacation living out there.

2424
01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:37,720
Speaker 5: So when you're so you're following in the draft, you think, one,

2425
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:39,639
Speaker 5: how dope, wu it'd be to be the first overall

2426
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 5: pick in a draft, Like what a milestone? What an

2427
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 5: opportunity that comes and goes? Yeah, three comes, It's like,

2428
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:47,479
Speaker 5: all right, it is Cleveland, but still top three would

2429
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:49,679
Speaker 5: be insane. That goes where's your mind?

2430
01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 4: Where your mind at?

2431
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:53,200
Speaker 5: As you start essentially falling in this draft.

2432
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 1: Uh well, it moved to like six or seven because

2433
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 1: I think the Vikings had six or seven. Yes, they

2434
01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 1: had seven that year, and so Mike type he played

2435
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 1: football at University of Maryland. So I thought it was

2436
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 1: gonna be Minnesota after that. Once once in Minnesota passed,

2437
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:08,600
Speaker 1: I knew it was gonna be Dallas for or the

2438
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 1: charges like.

2439
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:13,000
Speaker 4: You feel any type of way when they grabbed the

2440
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 4: Marcus ware, Not.

2441
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:18,680
Speaker 1: Not really because you fall one pick and then all

2442
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:21,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't you know, and there was also a team

2443
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:22,800
Speaker 1: you wouldn't you wanted to go to? You get what

2444
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So wasn't that. Now I'm mad because they

2445
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:27,640
Speaker 1: told me what they told me. I went home and

2446
01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:30,960
Speaker 1: telling my family, right, you know that that part I

2447
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:34,120
Speaker 1: was pissed off about because what happened was half my

2448
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:36,960
Speaker 1: family was divided up between bit coming from the d

2449
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 1: m V area, between then Redskins fans and you know Dallas.

2450
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:44,599
Speaker 1: It is rivalry, you know, bath my family half and half.

2451
01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 1: So half my family was excited, other half my family

2452
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 1: was pissed off, you know. So what they did was

2453
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 1: is that my family was Dallas Cowboy fans. They went

2454
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:57,000
Speaker 1: out got custom made fifty six merriment jerseys, and so

2455
01:48:57,240 --> 01:48:59,599
Speaker 1: my other men, the Redskins fans, spend the time, went

2456
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 1: out and got fifty six Ridskins jerseys. And so when

2457
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 1: the Radskins were the clock, which I think they were

2458
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 1: like the ninth pick or something like that, or ninth

2459
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 1: or tenth pick, ninth pick, they were on the clock,

2460
01:49:10,120 --> 01:49:12,640
Speaker 1: and uh, when they passed me, you just heard the

2461
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:15,760
Speaker 1: win let let it out the oh shit, you know,

2462
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 1: kind of wasted a bunch of on custom jersey. Yeah,

2463
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:20,880
Speaker 1: rip ripped the jerseys out the bag, threw them in

2464
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:23,040
Speaker 1: the back. So you heard that part. And so the

2465
01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:24,720
Speaker 1: rest of my family was excited because they knew I

2466
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 1: was going just knew I was going to the Cowboys. Yeah,

2467
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 1: and so they guy, I hear the bags. So but

2468
01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:31,880
Speaker 1: because they're all taking the jerseys out of the out

2469
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 1: of out of the bags. And so the Cowboys passed

2470
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 1: me up, you heard the same thing, ship just slamming

2471
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:41,040
Speaker 1: the you know, slamming the jerseys or whatever. And then

2472
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:43,600
Speaker 1: and then I got a call from from Marty. And

2473
01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 1: at this time, you know, like if you felt like

2474
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:46,840
Speaker 1: people passed it, you got a chip point, you got

2475
01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:48,439
Speaker 1: a chip point you show. Not just the Cowboys, it

2476
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 1: was like everybody who passed up. So I felt like

2477
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 1: that out of chip my shoulder for that reason, and

2478
01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 1: so Marty called me. He was like, hey, just Sean Raymon.

2479
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:00,840
Speaker 1: I say, yes, this is Sean. Hey, this coach Schattenhammer.

2480
01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:02,720
Speaker 1: You ready to be a charger? And I was like,

2481
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:04,880
Speaker 1: hell yeah, you guys ready to call me? Call my

2482
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:06,599
Speaker 1: name so I can get out there and get to work.

2483
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:08,519
Speaker 1: And after that it was it was kind of history.

2484
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:12,000
Speaker 4: I was reading where what was the learning curve like

2485
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 4: for you when you did finally arrive at training camp?

2486
01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:16,559
Speaker 4: Obviously you was talking about Lorenzo and Neil and everything else,

2487
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 4: but I want to say I read or heard you

2488
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:21,000
Speaker 4: talking about how basically there were structure in the game

2489
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:24,040
Speaker 4: playing around you because you weren't necessarily privy to what

2490
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:25,559
Speaker 4: was even going on on the field.

2491
01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 1: Dude, I knew nothing, which is crazy. Dude, I knew nothing,

2492
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 1: and because I got there so late, and mind you,

2493
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:35,760
Speaker 1: you know the playbooks, and I try to tell everybody like,

2494
01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 1: the playbooks are this big, and when you play a

2495
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 1: stronger weekside linebacker, it changes depending on what side of

2496
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:45,760
Speaker 1: the strength, so your whole responsibility may change. And then

2497
01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 1: the game is so fast, you got guys motioning, shifting,

2498
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 1: and then Hutt, your mind is just I couldn't catch up,

2499
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 1: you know. And so finally I great MANASKI as up

2500
01:50:57,040 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 1: my linebacker coach.

2501
01:50:58,080 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 4: He was my DC in Washington.

2502
01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:02,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, coach due with the best, the best, the best

2503
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:04,840
Speaker 1: dude and the character beyond believe.

2504
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 4: On the board he was. He's like one of the

2505
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 4: most fun coaches I've ever had.

2506
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, the best and uh. And then John Pagano was

2507
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 1: also an assistant linebacker coach. Okay, and Waye Phillips was

2508
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:21,120
Speaker 1: the court. I had a great I had a great,

2509
01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:24,400
Speaker 1: great coach that three different you know, one one of

2510
01:51:24,439 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 1: them obviously ended up being a head coach was a

2511
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:28,160
Speaker 1: head coach. And Waye Phillips and you had Monusky, who

2512
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 1: has been around as a player, as a coach decordinator,

2513
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 1: and then John Pagano also as a coach defensive coordinator

2514
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:35,840
Speaker 1: as well. So I really had like three really like

2515
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:38,720
Speaker 1: great coaches. So they finally they knew I can play,

2516
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:40,640
Speaker 1: They knew I can run and with fast and all

2517
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:42,960
Speaker 1: this ship or whatever. They brought me after practice one

2518
01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 1: day in a lineback of meeting room and Waye Phillips

2519
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:48,720
Speaker 1: and Monusky sitting right here, and Pegana's sitting here, and

2520
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:53,560
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips right here is like listen, seball gobo, And

2521
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:56,320
Speaker 1: I'm confused. I'm thinking like they're playing, like they're testing me, right,

2522
01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:58,519
Speaker 1: because I don't know what that means. They said, we

2523
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:00,479
Speaker 1: want you to see ball, go ball. I said, coach,

2524
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:02,760
Speaker 1: what does that? What does that mean? They said, well,

2525
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:04,559
Speaker 1: when you see the ball, go to it. We'll line

2526
01:52:04,600 --> 01:52:08,800
Speaker 1: you up. And that was it. So when they called

2527
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:10,880
Speaker 1: the strength that they called a strong side, the weak side,

2528
01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:12,799
Speaker 1: blitch whatever I knew I had to go to the strength.

2529
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:15,120
Speaker 1: And they say, your name is called, you go. And

2530
01:52:15,160 --> 01:52:17,320
Speaker 1: when your name is not called, you drop. That was

2531
01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 1: my playbook for the first life four to six weeks.

2532
01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:21,479
Speaker 4: And when do you say when your name is called,

2533
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:23,840
Speaker 4: is it baked into the call? Like is the Mike

2534
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:24,840
Speaker 4: Backer saying.

2535
01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:27,800
Speaker 1: Yep a Sam Mike a Sam Mike blast right, So

2536
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:31,360
Speaker 1: saying I'm strong side Sam, I'm blitching. If they said

2537
01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:33,679
Speaker 1: we'll cover three or whatever it is, my name not called,

2538
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 1: I got the drop a girl, drop a cirl flat.

2539
01:52:37,360 --> 01:52:39,680
Speaker 4: Even then it's just him answer that shakey. You want

2540
01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:42,880
Speaker 4: to make sure Sean's blitzing everything else? Am I going

2541
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:43,639
Speaker 4: back to a hook.

2542
01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:49,960
Speaker 1: And look in his own dog. They shifted, you know,

2543
01:52:50,200 --> 01:52:52,200
Speaker 1: one of those things because it's the work is it's

2544
01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:54,960
Speaker 1: literally the worst feeling, like you don't know what the

2545
01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 1: hell's going on, And so they made it so it

2546
01:52:57,120 --> 01:52:59,040
Speaker 1: was seaball go ball due for the first four to

2547
01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:01,160
Speaker 1: six week and that helped. Yeah, And then by like

2548
01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:04,160
Speaker 1: week six, I was able to be in a changeable,

2549
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:06,840
Speaker 1: unchangeable on side. I didn't have to switch size anymore.

2550
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:09,719
Speaker 1: I knew that if a shift was or the strength shift,

2551
01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:11,640
Speaker 1: then I can pick up on what the whale was

2552
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:13,800
Speaker 1: supposed to do. Right, So by by week six, I

2553
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:14,280
Speaker 1: was clicking.

2554
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:15,200
Speaker 4: That's when you're feeling good.

2555
01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:15,880
Speaker 1: I was good.

2556
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:17,920
Speaker 5: There is not a worst feeling in the world when

2557
01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:19,880
Speaker 5: a call is made and you're like trying to ask

2558
01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 5: somebody what the hell you're supposed.

2559
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 1: To be doing. I was gonna blitz that like nomter failed,

2560
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:30,160
Speaker 1: they failed, just get the sacked up. Oh yeah, good play,

2561
01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:30,560
Speaker 1: you know.

2562
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. How many sacks did you get when you weren't

2563
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:34,160
Speaker 4: even supposed to rush?

2564
01:53:34,360 --> 01:53:36,200
Speaker 1: Oh shit, probably at least ten?

2565
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:39,679
Speaker 5: Probably, Yeah, like you have like thirty nine the first

2566
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:40,639
Speaker 5: three years, Yeah.

2567
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:42,639
Speaker 1: Like thirty nine forty and then and that was when

2568
01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:45,920
Speaker 1: I was suspended, No six, you know, eight seventeen teen

2569
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 1: Sacks and No.

2570
01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:49,960
Speaker 4: Six h bro talk about the suspension, Yeah, I mean

2571
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 4: the lure, the mystery, Yeah, the sewn Merryman p the

2572
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:58,839
Speaker 4: steroids getting injured afterwards, like the entire career of Sean Merryman.

2573
01:53:59,000 --> 01:53:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2574
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:03,320
Speaker 4: People always ask and talk about ped situation.

2575
01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:06,040
Speaker 1: I think I think it was so big at that time.

2576
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:07,800
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the biggest thing because all that stuff

2577
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:10,920
Speaker 1: was going with Balco. That's why it was so. It

2578
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:14,200
Speaker 1: was so big. It was like when Valco was going

2579
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,599
Speaker 1: after every like it was so big. The track Star,

2580
01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:20,200
Speaker 1: the track and Field remind me stuff that was the

2581
01:54:20,360 --> 01:54:23,360
Speaker 1: Victor CONTI like the track stars, Like who was actually

2582
01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:27,360
Speaker 1: going to see doctors in like clinics.

2583
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:29,080
Speaker 4: Probably doctor in ohiot.

2584
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:31,320
Speaker 1: This was this was massive. This was like the whole

2585
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:33,200
Speaker 1: things where they were trying to tie Berry bonds. So

2586
01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:37,160
Speaker 1: this was like the big Yeah, this is Sosa. This

2587
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:40,400
Speaker 1: was that era when all that happened. And so when

2588
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:42,960
Speaker 1: I got suspended, I was like I got thrown right

2589
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:45,400
Speaker 1: in the mix with all of them, and I was like, dude,

2590
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 1: I've never seen a doctor for ship, you know I

2591
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:50,480
Speaker 1: got I got suspended for something that was over the counter,

2592
01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:53,760
Speaker 1: like like you can go to any vitamin shop or whatever.

2593
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:55,880
Speaker 1: And what happened was that they put it on the

2594
01:54:55,960 --> 01:55:00,080
Speaker 1: list from the previous year. Wasn't there right, And so

2595
01:55:00,720 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 1: me being me, I didn't. I didn't look at anything.

2596
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:04,200
Speaker 1: So when the PA sends out this new thing before

2597
01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:06,120
Speaker 1: and it was on there, there wasn't to shoot you

2598
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:08,440
Speaker 1: the email all the bands, right, or they bring it

2599
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 1: into and they do that that talk before the year

2600
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:12,760
Speaker 1: to come in. But I just I just balled it

2601
01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:14,360
Speaker 1: up and put it in my locker because I was like,

2602
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 1: it's been am not taking anything different. And so I

2603
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:22,120
Speaker 1: actually got suspended during the off season. I got tested

2604
01:55:22,160 --> 01:55:24,880
Speaker 1: during the off season and at the time I was

2605
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:29,480
Speaker 1: tested twenty times. This was my twentieth tests that I felt.

2606
01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:33,000
Speaker 4: And twentieth tests that you faded.

2607
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 1: I mean sorry, twenty test that I took, twentieth one

2608
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:39,280
Speaker 1: that I felt the twentieth tests because they were testing

2609
01:55:39,320 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 1: ship on my like all the time, dude. They was like,

2610
01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:45,000
Speaker 1: hold on this rookie out here, like you know and

2611
01:55:45,160 --> 01:55:50,960
Speaker 1: so and so I got tested and two months before

2612
01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:52,720
Speaker 1: the season started, or a month and a half before

2613
01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:55,160
Speaker 1: season started, so it takes like six eight weeks before

2614
01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 1: some time you get your results back. But I actually popped.

2615
01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:01,280
Speaker 1: I got suspended during the off season. I took my

2616
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:04,080
Speaker 1: suspension during the season, at no point in time to

2617
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 1: ever test positive after that. It was that particular time

2618
01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 1: during the off season of the supplements I was taken

2619
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:12,120
Speaker 1: and I wasn't. It was on the band list, and

2620
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:14,800
Speaker 1: I just didn't know. And and so when I sent

2621
01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 1: everything in, I forgot the guy's name in Ohio who

2622
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 1: was who's the head of the he was the one

2623
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:22,960
Speaker 1: to do the testing, and you talk to I forgot

2624
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:26,600
Speaker 1: his name probably yeah, And so through the NFL and

2625
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:28,640
Speaker 1: they said, Sean, look we understand, but whatever you put

2626
01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 1: in your body is on you regardless. And I said, hey,

2627
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:33,760
Speaker 1: could I mean cause you got just find me the

2628
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:35,480
Speaker 1: four games and no suspect. I was trying to figure

2629
01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:37,120
Speaker 1: out a way because I sent him the supplement and

2630
01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 1: he's like, yep, this is it, but it's it's on

2631
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:42,400
Speaker 1: the it's on the list. I said, well, I'm not

2632
01:56:42,440 --> 01:56:45,600
Speaker 1: trying to beat the system here it is. I sent

2633
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:46,080
Speaker 1: it to him.

2634
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 8: You know.

2635
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 1: I even hired how the attorney, and I hired some

2636
01:56:48,800 --> 01:56:50,880
Speaker 1: some doctors and scientists from U C.

2637
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:51,240
Speaker 7: L A.

2638
01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:53,040
Speaker 1: I spent a ton of money to show them like

2639
01:56:53,320 --> 01:56:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to beat the system and what was

2640
01:56:56,680 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 1: this was cool? And I know Roger Goodell gets a

2641
01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:01,000
Speaker 1: lot of slack, but he did something he didn't have

2642
01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:05,320
Speaker 1: to do because he felt that that I was being

2643
01:57:05,480 --> 01:57:09,600
Speaker 1: unfairly treated because of this thing. You know, Roger Goodell

2644
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:13,280
Speaker 1: actually came out and said he told the public that

2645
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:16,680
Speaker 1: I had tested twenty twenty times, nineteen of them clean

2646
01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:19,600
Speaker 1: without a problem, and this is the twentieth time that

2647
01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:23,080
Speaker 1: I got it. And and I called him, I said, hey,

2648
01:57:23,160 --> 01:57:25,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, man. You didn't have to You didn't

2649
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:28,160
Speaker 1: have to do that, because he also felt like, hey,

2650
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 1: look these are the rules, but how I was being

2651
01:57:30,160 --> 01:57:32,840
Speaker 1: treated at that time for that wasn't fair.

2652
01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:36,360
Speaker 5: Right, can you on like how you're being treated? You're

2653
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:38,200
Speaker 5: just in you're just guilty and well.

2654
01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:39,920
Speaker 4: You know, so like people because you're not the only

2655
01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:44,680
Speaker 4: one with the PD suspensioned on the bus right. I did,

2656
01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 4: I did, I had, I had a little Austrian incident.

2657
01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 4: It was I went through the whole thing.

2658
01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:51,160
Speaker 5: I got tested in may Or, I tested in March,

2659
01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:54,800
Speaker 5: got tested again in April May March, was cleaned in April.

2660
01:57:54,840 --> 01:57:57,040
Speaker 5: I had like trace amounts for a thing called Austrian right,

2661
01:57:57,240 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 5: And I went through this whole. I did a lot

2662
01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:01,240
Speaker 5: of tector tests, like just trying to prove that I'm innocent, right,

2663
01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:03,320
Speaker 5: and you have to spend it anyway, right, to spend

2664
01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:03,800
Speaker 5: it four games?

2665
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that's that's the thing. It's you know,

2666
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:07,760
Speaker 1: they make it clear that they don't give it. Damn

2667
01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:10,200
Speaker 1: what you put like, it's you. Whatever you take, it's

2668
01:58:10,200 --> 01:58:12,280
Speaker 1: on you. And so I was like, you know, I

2669
01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:13,840
Speaker 1: get it, but at least you guys see what I

2670
01:58:13,960 --> 01:58:16,320
Speaker 1: was taking. I'm not trying to hide it. And they said,

2671
01:58:16,360 --> 01:58:18,960
Speaker 1: we get it, we understand, but you still put it

2672
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:22,240
Speaker 1: in your body. It's on you. So and I don't

2673
01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:23,440
Speaker 1: know how long it took for you to get your

2674
01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:26,240
Speaker 1: your test back, but it took me like six to

2675
01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:30,160
Speaker 1: eight weeks about that, right. And so when I do

2676
01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:32,320
Speaker 1: this was happening. This is the craziest ship. So when

2677
01:58:32,360 --> 01:58:37,360
Speaker 1: I tested positive for for the PDS, I didn't get

2678
01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:40,560
Speaker 1: a letter from the NFL until after week one. We

2679
01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:43,080
Speaker 1: played the Raiders and this didn't help. We played the

2680
01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 1: Raiders Monday night and I opened up with like three

2681
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 1: four sacks the first game of the year, right, going.

2682
01:58:48,120 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 4: Crazy, going you know that offensive line was like I

2683
01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:51,000
Speaker 4: knew it.

2684
01:58:52,640 --> 01:58:54,960
Speaker 1: Everybody like it's because you know, like you know, I was.

2685
01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:57,960
Speaker 1: I was big at the you know, like put together.

2686
01:58:58,040 --> 01:58:59,040
Speaker 1: So they look they're looking at it, like.

2687
01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:00,320
Speaker 4: Look at you. You don't say, bro.

2688
01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:03,280
Speaker 5: I was kind of jacked.

2689
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:05,720
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, you don't top of a brick wall.

2690
01:59:06,760 --> 01:59:07,440
Speaker 1: He said, what's up?

2691
01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:08,400
Speaker 5: Like god, damn, all right?

2692
01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:09,320
Speaker 1: It was.

2693
01:59:09,960 --> 01:59:10,200
Speaker 2: It was.

2694
01:59:10,720 --> 01:59:13,080
Speaker 1: It was one of those things where I got to

2695
01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:14,720
Speaker 1: four sacks and I came back. It was a Monday

2696
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:17,800
Speaker 1: night game. We got back from Oakland Tuesday and I

2697
01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:20,480
Speaker 1: go on my locker and there's a fed X in

2698
01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:23,240
Speaker 1: my locker. So the only thing for that at the

2699
01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:25,240
Speaker 1: time that I knew. They said I was fine and

2700
01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:27,120
Speaker 1: a fed X, and I said, oh, should we just

2701
01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:30,120
Speaker 1: played yesterday so they can't find why they find me already?

2702
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, they're starting this year again, you know,

2703
01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:35,160
Speaker 1: trying to come after me. And I opened up that

2704
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:37,840
Speaker 1: letter and it showed exactly like what the you know,

2705
01:59:38,160 --> 01:59:40,680
Speaker 1: You've been suspended for this, this, this, this, And I'm

2706
01:59:40,720 --> 01:59:43,200
Speaker 1: looking at it like it's some kind of joke, because

2707
01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:45,800
Speaker 1: we do we play some sick jokes on each each

2708
01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:48,880
Speaker 1: other in the locker room. Do we play so many

2709
01:59:49,120 --> 01:59:51,640
Speaker 1: like just cruel, messed up jokes to each other. So

2710
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm thinking like one of one of the linebackers or

2711
01:59:54,200 --> 01:59:56,200
Speaker 1: one of the DB's that like typed up some letter

2712
01:59:57,120 --> 01:59:59,160
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm really thinking they're playing around with me,

2713
01:59:59,400 --> 02:00:01,440
Speaker 1: you know. And I took it to the train of

2714
02:00:01,520 --> 02:00:04,640
Speaker 1: James Collins and I said, James, I said, this is

2715
02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:07,440
Speaker 1: not funny. Man, who's doing the ship? I said, what

2716
02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:09,800
Speaker 1: is this from? And he read? He said, yeah, it

2717
02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:12,840
Speaker 1: looks like you know, the NFL suspending you for I

2718
02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:16,160
Speaker 1: said that it's real. He said, yeah, shruck go. And

2719
02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:17,920
Speaker 1: I called my I call my agent. At the time,

2720
02:00:17,960 --> 02:00:19,320
Speaker 1: I'm freaking out. I don't know what the hell is

2721
02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:21,880
Speaker 1: going on. Gotta be a mistake. I'm thinking like it

2722
02:00:22,040 --> 02:00:22,920
Speaker 1: has to be a mistake.

2723
02:00:23,000 --> 02:00:36,080
Speaker 4: That rage is coming out. You know, we wrote this goddamn.

2724
02:00:40,360 --> 02:00:43,040
Speaker 1: Uh And so you know, I'm like, this thiss gotta

2725
02:00:43,080 --> 02:00:45,560
Speaker 1: be a joke. It's got to be something like, you know,

2726
02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:48,640
Speaker 1: because what I thought, like steroids needles, that's what you know.

2727
02:00:48,680 --> 02:00:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, from where I from, where where I come from.

2728
02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:53,440
Speaker 1: We don't know about that type of ship, you know.

2729
02:00:53,480 --> 02:00:56,000
Speaker 1: We bare looking afford food like, we ain't buy no

2730
02:00:56,040 --> 02:00:59,360
Speaker 1: extra steroids if we're buying something that was gonna be food. Yeah,

2731
02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:01,920
Speaker 1: And so I didn't know that life. So I always

2732
02:01:01,960 --> 02:01:03,760
Speaker 1: started like, well, this got to be wrong because I didn't.

2733
02:01:03,840 --> 02:01:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm not shooting nothing in my ass. And so later

2734
02:01:07,080 --> 02:01:09,560
Speaker 1: on I ended up finding out that there can't. There's

2735
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:12,720
Speaker 1: stuff stimulants and all kind of shit and other stuff tainted.

2736
02:01:12,720 --> 02:01:13,760
Speaker 4: It's a whole different world.

2737
02:01:13,760 --> 02:01:14,680
Speaker 1: It's a whole different world.

2738
02:01:14,840 --> 02:01:18,160
Speaker 4: Any like nutrition of any supplement store you walk into.

2739
02:01:18,280 --> 02:01:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah something yeah, yeah, and it's that one little dyna

2740
02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:25,840
Speaker 1: like the's a long name, right, And I'm like, I'm

2741
02:01:25,880 --> 02:01:27,440
Speaker 1: not a signist. How am I supposed to know that

2742
02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:31,400
Speaker 1: this means steroids? You know? You just don't know. So anyway,

2743
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:33,360
Speaker 1: you just knew it was helpful. I just knew it

2744
02:01:33,480 --> 02:01:35,000
Speaker 1: got got me extra workout.

2745
02:01:34,680 --> 02:01:39,960
Speaker 4: In season, work out. Hey, Kathy's crazy, and this one

2746
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:41,120
Speaker 4: I go all day.

2747
02:01:41,320 --> 02:01:43,600
Speaker 5: I was like, my bench is gone up fifty pounds.

2748
02:01:43,880 --> 02:01:45,880
Speaker 1: Like I said, they're curling two hundred.

2749
02:01:46,360 --> 02:01:46,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2750
02:01:47,200 --> 02:01:47,440
Speaker 1: Whatever.

2751
02:01:47,880 --> 02:01:50,880
Speaker 5: You're running around the facility confused. People are like, come on, man,

2752
02:01:51,480 --> 02:01:52,440
Speaker 5: what are you talking about?

2753
02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:56,680
Speaker 1: No, no, for real, And so I got I was suspended.

2754
02:01:56,960 --> 02:01:59,400
Speaker 1: They gave me an option, which was which was really dope,

2755
02:01:59,480 --> 02:02:02,040
Speaker 1: and so I peeled it because we wanted to figure

2756
02:02:02,040 --> 02:02:03,720
Speaker 1: out like what was what was wrong. We had to

2757
02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:05,280
Speaker 1: pill it so we wouldn't just take it right away.

2758
02:02:05,560 --> 02:02:07,520
Speaker 1: But what I did was I looked at the schedule

2759
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:09,680
Speaker 1: and saw who we had there, and we had a

2760
02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:11,880
Speaker 1: four game stretch and at the time, they wasn't that good.

2761
02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:15,120
Speaker 1: We had at the Bengals, the Browns, we had four teams.

2762
02:02:15,200 --> 02:02:17,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't good. So the team was basically like, Okay,

2763
02:02:17,560 --> 02:02:19,600
Speaker 1: we don't need you these weeks. So I took my

2764
02:02:20,160 --> 02:02:23,200
Speaker 1: I dropped the appeal, and I took my suspension. So

2765
02:02:23,240 --> 02:02:25,480
Speaker 1: I didn't even fight it anymore because it was like, again,

2766
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:27,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna take a lot of teche. You can do

2767
02:02:27,120 --> 02:02:29,840
Speaker 1: whatever you want, right They're gonna suspend you even now,

2768
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:30,320
Speaker 1: like it's.

2769
02:02:30,240 --> 02:02:32,640
Speaker 4: The NSF certified, but they even say even if an

2770
02:02:32,720 --> 02:02:36,720
Speaker 4: NSF certified, it's still on you, no doubt about it.

2771
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:38,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a whole bunch of batches. I could go

2772
02:02:38,760 --> 02:02:42,400
Speaker 5: on for thirty minutes. I'm gone through the whole entire process.

2773
02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:45,840
Speaker 1: So like you you know that first of all, people

2774
02:02:45,880 --> 02:02:47,560
Speaker 1: look at us anyway, they think we all on some shit.

2775
02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:50,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the regular person, you know, look at this way,

2776
02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:52,680
Speaker 1: and he got to be on whatever, right because they

2777
02:02:52,720 --> 02:02:54,480
Speaker 1: can't understand like some of us is is just were

2778
02:02:54,560 --> 02:02:57,120
Speaker 1: just built differently. We're working out six seven days a

2779
02:02:57,160 --> 02:03:00,320
Speaker 1: week where our bodies are trained to do. So the

2780
02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:02,200
Speaker 1: regular person, I was already like and then me on

2781
02:03:02,320 --> 02:03:04,040
Speaker 1: top of that, out there playing and acting the way

2782
02:03:04,200 --> 02:03:08,840
Speaker 1: I was, it was like, yeah, him for sure, you know.

2783
02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:11,640
Speaker 1: And so I was like, God, damn, you almost get

2784
02:03:12,240 --> 02:03:16,040
Speaker 1: you get tagged with that no matter what. And I

2785
02:03:16,160 --> 02:03:18,160
Speaker 1: came back and I had more sacks when like so,

2786
02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:20,680
Speaker 1: I didn't test even during the season. I didn't test positive.

2787
02:03:20,720 --> 02:03:23,320
Speaker 1: This is during the off season. And what I can

2788
02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:25,080
Speaker 1: what I found out it stays in your system for

2789
02:03:25,160 --> 02:03:27,360
Speaker 1: like a few weeks up to thirty days. It stays

2790
02:03:27,400 --> 02:03:30,320
Speaker 1: in your system. So never tested it for anything during

2791
02:03:30,360 --> 02:03:32,320
Speaker 1: the season. But when I came back, I was so

2792
02:03:32,520 --> 02:03:34,600
Speaker 1: pissed off, like I had a chip on my shoulder

2793
02:03:34,600 --> 02:03:36,120
Speaker 1: at that point. I was because I read all this

2794
02:03:36,160 --> 02:03:39,400
Speaker 1: stuff and dude, I was it was on CNN, like

2795
02:03:39,480 --> 02:03:43,360
Speaker 1: Al Jazeera, like it was everywhere. It was. Dude, it

2796
02:03:43,440 --> 02:03:46,200
Speaker 1: was so big at the time, I didn't know who

2797
02:03:46,240 --> 02:03:48,080
Speaker 1: the hell how Jazeera was I'm like, wow, is he

2798
02:03:48,160 --> 02:03:50,720
Speaker 1: talking about Like I don't even know what it was

2799
02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:54,400
Speaker 1: like international news and it was so big. So when

2800
02:03:54,400 --> 02:03:56,360
Speaker 1: I came back, I was like, really really pissed off.

2801
02:03:56,520 --> 02:03:58,960
Speaker 1: I was really mad. So I ended up having more

2802
02:03:59,080 --> 02:04:02,680
Speaker 1: sacks when I came back than to when I when

2803
02:04:02,720 --> 02:04:06,080
Speaker 1: I left you and that really just pissed people off more.

2804
02:04:06,120 --> 02:04:07,840
Speaker 1: And the fact that I made the Pro Bowl and

2805
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:11,000
Speaker 1: then it was up like to like top three Fenisy

2806
02:04:11,040 --> 02:04:13,760
Speaker 1: defensive play of the Year. They made that rule where

2807
02:04:13,800 --> 02:04:16,760
Speaker 1: you can't go to the postseason if you get suspended

2808
02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:17,440
Speaker 1: or have anything.

2809
02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:20,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't do Yeah, he still was a Pro Bowler.

2810
02:04:20,880 --> 02:04:22,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, which I want to thank you for that, because

2811
02:04:22,520 --> 02:04:24,400
Speaker 5: twenty nineteen I got suspended and it was my best

2812
02:04:24,520 --> 02:04:25,600
Speaker 5: year of football I ever played.

2813
02:04:25,920 --> 02:04:33,800
Speaker 1: And literally they did yes, so they put that uh

2814
02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:36,640
Speaker 1: that merriment rule up. And again this is when you know,

2815
02:04:36,800 --> 02:04:38,800
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell came out and was like, this is not

2816
02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:39,760
Speaker 1: you know, this is not fair.

2817
02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:42,760
Speaker 5: This what prompted Godell to do that for you?

2818
02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:43,760
Speaker 4: Why do you think that?

2819
02:04:43,920 --> 02:04:45,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that because I met with

2820
02:04:45,920 --> 02:04:47,480
Speaker 1: him before and I was around him a lot.

2821
02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:49,040
Speaker 4: So in the heat was high, like you're saying at

2822
02:04:49,040 --> 02:04:51,400
Speaker 4: the time with baseball, track and everything else. Yeah, and

2823
02:04:51,520 --> 02:04:53,120
Speaker 4: you were like at the I mean you were a star,

2824
02:04:53,440 --> 02:04:55,040
Speaker 4: like you were on commercials.

2825
02:04:54,520 --> 02:04:57,160
Speaker 1: Like you yeah, yeah, and that that's all of that

2826
02:04:57,520 --> 02:05:01,320
Speaker 1: really amplified all of it. And so when you're already

2827
02:05:01,520 --> 02:05:03,920
Speaker 1: out there and you're visible and people see you and

2828
02:05:04,040 --> 02:05:07,600
Speaker 1: then something like that happens, it's like magnified, you know,

2829
02:05:07,720 --> 02:05:10,400
Speaker 1: beyond belief. And so I was really pissed off when

2830
02:05:10,440 --> 02:05:12,120
Speaker 1: I came back. I had to you know, finished up

2831
02:05:12,120 --> 02:05:14,840
Speaker 1: the season, and then they had they made that made

2832
02:05:14,920 --> 02:05:18,520
Speaker 1: that rule. And then that's when Jason Taylor on these

2833
02:05:18,560 --> 02:05:21,240
Speaker 1: guys were Jason Taylor won that year, and Jason Taylor

2834
02:05:21,400 --> 02:05:22,760
Speaker 1: was like talking ship. He was like, you know, you

2835
02:05:22,760 --> 02:05:27,080
Speaker 1: shouldn't win and like it to the media, and so

2836
02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:29,560
Speaker 1: they were at the playoffs. We're still we went to

2837
02:05:29,600 --> 02:05:31,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs that year. So I sent him a lights

2838
02:05:31,920 --> 02:05:33,680
Speaker 1: Out T shirt a bag of popcorn and told him

2839
02:05:33,680 --> 02:05:35,480
Speaker 1: senters asking the count. I sent it to the locker room.

2840
02:05:36,360 --> 02:05:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So I made I made sure that he

2841
02:05:40,520 --> 02:05:44,280
Speaker 1: got it. The team player personnel they took it to

2842
02:05:44,360 --> 02:05:45,600
Speaker 1: him and made sure he got it. Because I had

2843
02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:47,040
Speaker 1: a friend that knew and I said, make sure you

2844
02:05:47,120 --> 02:05:48,920
Speaker 1: get this. So I sent him a lights Out T

2845
02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:51,040
Speaker 1: shirt in the bag of popcorn. They said, make sure

2846
02:05:51,080 --> 02:05:52,160
Speaker 1: you watch us in the playoffs.

2847
02:05:53,000 --> 02:05:53,520
Speaker 5: What do he saying?

2848
02:05:53,560 --> 02:05:54,560
Speaker 4: How do you respond? Nothing?

2849
02:05:54,600 --> 02:05:56,520
Speaker 1: That he came back, he was pissed. He was pissed.

2850
02:05:57,240 --> 02:05:59,520
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you something that that happened though, And

2851
02:06:00,080 --> 02:06:03,760
Speaker 1: again I was much different than we end up going

2852
02:06:03,800 --> 02:06:06,040
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl, and this was when it was

2853
02:06:06,080 --> 02:06:09,800
Speaker 1: in Hawaii. Me. I'm the type of if you're gonna

2854
02:06:09,920 --> 02:06:12,080
Speaker 1: say some things like that when I see you a person,

2855
02:06:12,240 --> 02:06:15,680
Speaker 1: keep that same energy with me, right, I.

2856
02:06:15,760 --> 02:06:21,720
Speaker 5: Get I just I've played with you before, I played

2857
02:06:21,760 --> 02:06:23,680
Speaker 5: with you. I know exactly who you are in the

2858
02:06:23,720 --> 02:06:26,840
Speaker 5: locker room. It's like that, I'd like you to dude,

2859
02:06:26,880 --> 02:06:28,600
Speaker 5: and we can joke around, have fun. But you know,

2860
02:06:28,640 --> 02:06:30,280
Speaker 5: there's a couple of buttons. It's like, YO, stay the

2861
02:06:30,320 --> 02:06:31,400
Speaker 5: funk away from those ones.

2862
02:06:31,880 --> 02:06:35,160
Speaker 1: So okay, So what happened was, so we got down

2863
02:06:35,200 --> 02:06:38,520
Speaker 1: there and I brought my family, my grandmother down there.

2864
02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:42,120
Speaker 1: I brought my whole entire family down there. I flew

2865
02:06:42,200 --> 02:06:44,360
Speaker 1: like ten people out to that Pro Bowl that year.

2866
02:06:45,640 --> 02:06:48,760
Speaker 1: And so I've checked in and I put my bag

2867
02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:50,920
Speaker 1: at the Bell's desk. I didn't eve checked in the room.

2868
02:06:50,920 --> 02:06:52,440
Speaker 1: I put it by the Bell's desk, and I went

2869
02:06:52,480 --> 02:06:56,440
Speaker 1: to go look for Jason Taylor. And so because I'm like,

2870
02:06:56,520 --> 02:06:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to, if you're going, and

2871
02:06:57,920 --> 02:06:59,560
Speaker 1: he was. He was going. He wasn't even like he

2872
02:06:59,720 --> 02:07:02,080
Speaker 1: was painting for himself. He was like talking ship to

2873
02:07:02,200 --> 02:07:05,800
Speaker 1: me about me. And I'm like, okay, you know it's fine,

2874
02:07:05,880 --> 02:07:07,680
Speaker 1: but you got to see me at some point, right.

2875
02:07:07,840 --> 02:07:09,680
Speaker 1: And so I didn't even check in my room, and

2876
02:07:09,760 --> 02:07:13,880
Speaker 1: were staying at the elani Elani and Waue Key. I

2877
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:16,000
Speaker 1: pulled my bag in the Bill's desk. So I go

2878
02:07:16,080 --> 02:07:17,240
Speaker 1: off and look for Jason Taylor.

2879
02:07:17,680 --> 02:07:19,280
Speaker 4: You have ten people with you, as anybody.

2880
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:22,120
Speaker 1: Said here during the other hotel other hotel, did you tell.

2881
02:07:21,960 --> 02:07:23,280
Speaker 4: Them about your players to go find Jason.

2882
02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:24,560
Speaker 1: No, So I had them to booked me a room

2883
02:07:24,600 --> 02:07:27,360
Speaker 1: because I was ready to get sent home, right, and

2884
02:07:27,480 --> 02:07:30,400
Speaker 1: so I had I had a room at the other hotel,

2885
02:07:31,240 --> 02:07:33,920
Speaker 1: and so and this is this is like in l

2886
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:36,240
Speaker 1: t and then so I walked past the Lts and

2887
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:38,120
Speaker 1: and uh, the Lorenzo Nils with me and I didn't

2888
02:07:38,120 --> 02:07:39,400
Speaker 1: even talk to him. I was like, I'll be right

2889
02:07:39,480 --> 02:07:41,320
Speaker 1: back and I walked right by them, and so they

2890
02:07:41,400 --> 02:07:43,080
Speaker 1: was like, where are you going, and so they started

2891
02:07:43,120 --> 02:07:46,720
Speaker 1: to follow me, and because they knew something was up,

2892
02:07:47,080 --> 02:07:51,520
Speaker 1: and so Gene Upshaw at this, you know, Gene Upshaw.

2893
02:07:52,560 --> 02:07:54,960
Speaker 1: They they got Gene up until Gene Upshaws wanted to

2894
02:07:54,960 --> 02:07:56,920
Speaker 1: stop me. And I was on the way. I seen

2895
02:07:57,120 --> 02:07:59,520
Speaker 1: I end up seeing Jason Taylor and I was b

2896
02:07:59,680 --> 02:08:02,960
Speaker 1: lining to warts so Lt Lorenzo O'Neil and Gene Upshaw

2897
02:08:03,040 --> 02:08:05,120
Speaker 1: stopped me because I was going to go see him. Yeah,

2898
02:08:05,880 --> 02:08:09,560
Speaker 1: and they they thank god, you know, just me being

2899
02:08:09,680 --> 02:08:11,000
Speaker 1: young and hot headed, they stopped.

2900
02:08:11,000 --> 02:08:11,120
Speaker 2: You know.

2901
02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:12,840
Speaker 1: He sat me down and said, hey, Sean, you can't

2902
02:08:12,920 --> 02:08:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, you can't do this. And I was like, well,

2903
02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:15,720
Speaker 1: if he I just want him to say the same

2904
02:08:15,720 --> 02:08:18,440
Speaker 1: shit he said to the newspaper to me, right.

2905
02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:20,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, but what happens if he says the same shit

2906
02:08:20,200 --> 02:08:23,760
Speaker 5: to use lights out, It's gonna be bad. You know.

2907
02:08:23,880 --> 02:08:26,560
Speaker 1: It's because I had already planned to go home. I

2908
02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:28,880
Speaker 1: was going to plan against at home anyway, and I

2909
02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:31,120
Speaker 1: was just have my family booking ext hotel. They flew

2910
02:08:31,160 --> 02:08:32,880
Speaker 1: out there. I'm just enjoyed it my family for the week.

2911
02:08:33,160 --> 02:08:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm fine. Right, And so they sat down. They all

2912
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:39,520
Speaker 1: sat me down, Gene Upshaw, Lorenzo Nil and l T

2913
02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:41,640
Speaker 1: set me down. They said, you know, we couldn't do this,

2914
02:08:41,800 --> 02:08:43,160
Speaker 1: maybe you should go talk to him. Let us go

2915
02:08:43,280 --> 02:08:45,920
Speaker 1: talk to him. So Gene Upshaw, I believe, ended up

2916
02:08:45,960 --> 02:08:47,840
Speaker 1: going to talking to Jason tail will let him know

2917
02:08:48,000 --> 02:08:51,440
Speaker 1: like what really happened, right, that this wasn't intentional, Like

2918
02:08:51,520 --> 02:08:54,240
Speaker 1: I wasn't like just some steroid head that's out here

2919
02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:58,520
Speaker 1: taking shit to beat the system. Uh, and so everything diffused.

2920
02:08:58,600 --> 02:08:59,920
Speaker 1: But I look back on it now, I'm like, dude,

2921
02:09:00,080 --> 02:09:02,160
Speaker 1: the hell were you? Like? Why would you have you?

2922
02:09:02,280 --> 02:09:03,200
Speaker 4: Did you talk to Jason?

2923
02:09:03,360 --> 02:09:06,560
Speaker 1: No a couple of times, but I didn't. We never

2924
02:09:06,680 --> 02:09:10,160
Speaker 1: really we never really talked about that, you know, we

2925
02:09:10,280 --> 02:09:13,440
Speaker 1: never really talked about that. But yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad, dude,

2926
02:09:13,440 --> 02:09:13,800
Speaker 1: I'm glad.

2927
02:09:13,840 --> 02:09:16,040
Speaker 5: You guys got a practice like there is practice and

2928
02:09:16,080 --> 02:09:18,200
Speaker 5: they're both in the NFC, so obviously you're on the

2929
02:09:18,240 --> 02:09:19,000
Speaker 5: same field together.

2930
02:09:19,240 --> 02:09:19,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2931
02:09:19,720 --> 02:09:21,560
Speaker 5: So during the week, is it like I'll stand on

2932
02:09:21,640 --> 02:09:23,280
Speaker 5: this side? You said, yes, I.

2933
02:09:23,320 --> 02:09:26,160
Speaker 1: Think I think after Gene Shaw talked to him, and

2934
02:09:26,280 --> 02:09:29,720
Speaker 1: I think when you knew like this they had it

2935
02:09:29,840 --> 02:09:32,040
Speaker 1: was it was kind of water on the bridge. We

2936
02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:34,920
Speaker 1: never became best friends or anything, but I think it

2937
02:09:35,080 --> 02:09:38,160
Speaker 1: was a it was a better understanding of what of

2938
02:09:38,240 --> 02:09:40,160
Speaker 1: what happened, you know. So I never really got a

2939
02:09:40,280 --> 02:09:43,200
Speaker 1: chance to an opportunity to talk to him about that, because.

2940
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:45,360
Speaker 5: You imagine if you get suspended for steroids and then

2941
02:09:45,400 --> 02:09:47,480
Speaker 5: you go to the Pro Bowl and you beat the

2942
02:09:47,480 --> 02:09:50,000
Speaker 5: ship out Jason Taylor or you find him, you would

2943
02:09:50,040 --> 02:09:51,280
Speaker 5: essentially prove everybody right.

2944
02:09:51,280 --> 02:09:54,240
Speaker 1: Like you would never know that not only a Steroay

2945
02:09:54,320 --> 02:09:59,360
Speaker 1: you thu, It's crazy, it was, you know, dude, I'm

2946
02:09:59,640 --> 02:10:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm glad, Like I said, I had some some older

2947
02:10:01,600 --> 02:10:04,600
Speaker 1: guys that were, you know, kind of leaving the right dire,

2948
02:10:04,760 --> 02:10:07,240
Speaker 1: like LT and Lorenzo, Like I can thank them so

2949
02:10:07,360 --> 02:10:10,320
Speaker 1: much for everything they've done, but mainly stuff like that. Right,

2950
02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:12,520
Speaker 1: they didn't have to, but they knew me well enough

2951
02:10:12,600 --> 02:10:15,120
Speaker 1: to know when I be lined past them and something

2952
02:10:15,200 --> 02:10:17,440
Speaker 1: was going to happen, something's going down, they followed me

2953
02:10:17,560 --> 02:10:19,800
Speaker 1: and then they I think lo' nil might have backed

2954
02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:22,680
Speaker 1: And by the way, lod Nil's a championship champion wrestler

2955
02:10:23,000 --> 02:10:25,680
Speaker 1: right for real? Oh yeah, like load nails like Top,

2956
02:10:25,720 --> 02:10:29,440
Speaker 1: but Top and wrestler, and so he grabbed me and

2957
02:10:29,640 --> 02:10:32,160
Speaker 1: was like you can't physically, It's like you can't, you

2958
02:10:32,240 --> 02:10:34,520
Speaker 1: can't do this. So it's really him l T and

2959
02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:35,480
Speaker 1: then Gene Nupshaw.

2960
02:10:36,320 --> 02:10:38,720
Speaker 5: Was there ever a time in practice because listen, fighting

2961
02:10:38,800 --> 02:10:41,320
Speaker 5: in practice is just like it happens all the time.

2962
02:10:41,400 --> 02:10:41,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2963
02:10:41,680 --> 02:10:43,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, they obviously they had to know when you be

2964
02:10:43,880 --> 02:10:45,720
Speaker 5: line past that you're going to do something. What made

2965
02:10:45,720 --> 02:10:47,960
Speaker 5: them know that if you walk past them, you're doing

2966
02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:48,680
Speaker 5: you're up to something?

2967
02:10:48,920 --> 02:10:50,720
Speaker 1: I was good for a fighter to every training camp

2968
02:10:51,320 --> 02:10:51,760
Speaker 1: to book it.

2969
02:10:51,880 --> 02:10:54,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, prison rules essentially someone to try you. It's

2970
02:10:54,960 --> 02:10:55,560
Speaker 5: like it was.

2971
02:10:55,640 --> 02:10:57,240
Speaker 1: It was one of those things like and then you

2972
02:10:57,320 --> 02:10:58,640
Speaker 1: know how this is. Do you just see this? You

2973
02:10:58,720 --> 02:11:00,800
Speaker 1: see the same guy every day, So don't take much

2974
02:11:00,800 --> 02:11:03,200
Speaker 1: at that point, like an extra shove right after the

2975
02:11:03,240 --> 02:11:04,720
Speaker 1: plate and grabbing the jerseys.

2976
02:11:04,760 --> 02:11:08,440
Speaker 5: You try to walk away and they're still holding on. Yeah,

2977
02:11:08,480 --> 02:11:11,200
Speaker 5: we would have, but but.

2978
02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:14,360
Speaker 4: It happens all the time. I'm thinking, yeah, I mean

2979
02:11:14,440 --> 02:11:16,520
Speaker 4: maybe with one or two guys.

2980
02:11:16,960 --> 02:11:20,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was always yeah, but I'll say this, I

2981
02:11:20,520 --> 02:11:22,720
Speaker 5: see your neck and I realized I would have been

2982
02:11:23,000 --> 02:11:24,320
Speaker 5: I would have been in a bit of a situation,

2983
02:11:24,440 --> 02:11:25,800
Speaker 5: but I would have swung. I want you to know

2984
02:11:25,880 --> 02:11:30,920
Speaker 5: that I would have a respect if you did, I

2985
02:11:30,960 --> 02:11:32,680
Speaker 5: would have swung first myself.

2986
02:11:32,760 --> 02:11:33,200
Speaker 4: God damn.

2987
02:11:34,880 --> 02:11:37,040
Speaker 1: But you know I played with some dogs like Chris

2988
02:11:37,160 --> 02:11:40,160
Speaker 1: Dillman and and those guys dude running Nick Hardwick, Like

2989
02:11:40,400 --> 02:11:41,440
Speaker 1: I played with some guys.

2990
02:11:41,600 --> 02:11:44,520
Speaker 5: Hardwick center right, yeah, center, done up?

2991
02:11:44,640 --> 02:11:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. I had to tell ye all of all of

2992
02:11:47,440 --> 02:11:49,680
Speaker 1: those guys were badasses. Just we bat all the time.

2993
02:11:49,760 --> 02:11:51,880
Speaker 1: But man, I so much respect from guys for real.

2994
02:11:52,120 --> 02:11:53,560
Speaker 5: What about when you get off the field. Let's say

2995
02:11:53,560 --> 02:11:55,120
Speaker 5: you're get in a bay Fest fight. How are you

2996
02:11:55,200 --> 02:11:57,360
Speaker 5: handling yourself after that? You need to calm down?

2997
02:11:57,520 --> 02:11:57,800
Speaker 1: Or is it?

2998
02:11:57,840 --> 02:11:59,240
Speaker 5: Hey, what's on the field stays on the field.

2999
02:11:59,280 --> 02:12:01,560
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't really fight much off the field.

3000
02:12:01,720 --> 02:12:04,640
Speaker 5: Yeah it's good, but on the.

3001
02:12:04,920 --> 02:12:08,200
Speaker 4: Right side of defense with him? Just got him. You

3002
02:12:08,280 --> 02:12:09,080
Speaker 4: want more of this ship?

3003
02:12:14,840 --> 02:12:15,120
Speaker 1: Just talk.

3004
02:12:15,640 --> 02:12:16,360
Speaker 4: Know we got the jump.

3005
02:12:16,920 --> 02:12:19,600
Speaker 5: You talking about fighting fighting people. You've swung at me

3006
02:12:19,880 --> 02:12:21,919
Speaker 5: in a game and in practice.

3007
02:12:22,440 --> 02:12:24,920
Speaker 4: I didn't. I've never swung at you in practice. That

3008
02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:27,560
Speaker 4: walked through practice we had, Yeah, we're gonna walk through

3009
02:12:27,640 --> 02:12:29,880
Speaker 4: practice and he's just running me to the sideline. And

3010
02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:32,360
Speaker 4: a walk through practice as a jog through. But I

3011
02:12:32,440 --> 02:12:35,040
Speaker 4: had to let Will they know sometimes you get on

3012
02:12:35,080 --> 02:12:36,040
Speaker 4: the edge, it's gonna happen to.

3013
02:12:36,040 --> 02:12:36,720
Speaker 8: You just.

3014
02:12:38,440 --> 02:12:41,040
Speaker 1: Drove him out the screen, you just draw it was

3015
02:12:41,240 --> 02:12:41,760
Speaker 1: it was a job.

3016
02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:43,560
Speaker 5: It was a jog three times situation.

3017
02:12:43,280 --> 02:12:45,360
Speaker 4: The preseason game. We're all out, we're not playing, we're

3018
02:12:45,360 --> 02:12:46,400
Speaker 4: just going a walk through.

3019
02:12:46,960 --> 02:12:48,960
Speaker 5: They just a shift where the mic comes down.

3020
02:12:50,280 --> 02:12:50,400
Speaker 2: Was it?

3021
02:12:50,680 --> 02:12:51,680
Speaker 5: No, No, we're the same team.

3022
02:12:52,320 --> 02:12:54,280
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying, like, were you playing around with him?

3023
02:12:54,480 --> 02:12:57,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just trying to put me let me know, like, Okay,

3024
02:12:57,560 --> 02:12:58,600
Speaker 4: you don't belong on the edge.

3025
02:12:58,840 --> 02:13:01,400
Speaker 5: You're not nice for anybody. And I was like I

3026
02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:03,320
Speaker 5: want to show Will, like when do you play down here?

3027
02:13:03,440 --> 02:13:05,680
Speaker 5: This is what happens. And we you were kind of

3028
02:13:05,720 --> 02:13:08,440
Speaker 5: mad for a couple of days. I know I wasn't

3029
02:13:08,480 --> 02:13:09,840
Speaker 5: bro man, you were kind of actually a bitch.

3030
02:13:09,880 --> 02:13:10,320
Speaker 1: Remember that.

3031
02:13:13,120 --> 02:13:13,320
Speaker 4: Dude?

3032
02:13:13,360 --> 02:13:14,880
Speaker 5: Who Okay, you buy a lot of teamates. Who's you

3033
02:13:14,920 --> 02:13:16,040
Speaker 5: favorite teamate of all times?

3034
02:13:17,120 --> 02:13:20,040
Speaker 1: Man? We had, Man, we had such a closed group,

3035
02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, like like me and d SP like a

3036
02:13:22,200 --> 02:13:23,600
Speaker 1: lot of it. We still talk almost every day.

3037
02:13:23,840 --> 02:13:24,000
Speaker 4: You know.

3038
02:13:24,000 --> 02:13:24,920
Speaker 1: I was just talking with these.

3039
02:13:24,840 --> 02:13:25,640
Speaker 4: Pros as I was walking.

3040
02:13:26,200 --> 02:13:32,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, below Neil L. T. Tones, probably my boy Antonio Gates.

3041
02:13:32,920 --> 02:13:35,480
Speaker 1: Phil Dude, like I look like I love Phil today,

3042
02:13:36,400 --> 02:13:38,760
Speaker 1: I do. I love everything about Field. The thing is,

3043
02:13:38,840 --> 02:13:40,560
Speaker 1: I hated him when he was at NC State because

3044
02:13:40,560 --> 02:13:43,600
Speaker 1: I was at Maryland and dude, I hated his guts,

3045
02:13:43,640 --> 02:13:45,800
Speaker 1: bro like I every time I saw it. Like I said,

3046
02:13:45,800 --> 02:13:47,240
Speaker 1: I want to do something to him every time I

3047
02:13:47,280 --> 02:13:49,240
Speaker 1: saw him, because you see him in the film and

3048
02:13:49,600 --> 02:13:51,080
Speaker 1: just at the time where you're watching the film, we

3049
02:13:51,200 --> 02:13:53,959
Speaker 1: watch there's no sound, right, you don't hear the commentary.

3050
02:13:54,120 --> 02:13:56,240
Speaker 1: It's got the two the angle and the two wide angle,

3051
02:13:57,160 --> 02:14:00,760
Speaker 1: and you just see him doing that and he's chirping.

3052
02:14:00,920 --> 02:14:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I'm a I'm gonna kick his ass,

3053
02:14:03,040 --> 02:14:06,320
Speaker 1: right and every time he never beat us when he

3054
02:14:06,400 --> 02:14:08,800
Speaker 1: was at INCA State. Maryland never beat us, not one time.

3055
02:14:09,440 --> 02:14:12,320
Speaker 1: And it was his last play his senior year. My uh,

3056
02:14:12,720 --> 02:14:15,920
Speaker 1: it was my sophomore year and I hit Fill in

3057
02:14:15,920 --> 02:14:17,480
Speaker 1: the back of the end zone. It's a n C

3058
02:14:17,640 --> 02:14:20,080
Speaker 1: State and we beat them that game. And I hit

3059
02:14:20,160 --> 02:14:21,160
Speaker 1: him in the back of the end zone and I

3060
02:14:21,280 --> 02:14:23,920
Speaker 1: kind of push up off of him right as I'm

3061
02:14:23,960 --> 02:14:27,440
Speaker 1: walking away, he ankle locks me grass my ankle and

3062
02:14:27,440 --> 02:14:33,280
Speaker 1: stars Philip Philip grabs my ankle and start to twist

3063
02:14:33,360 --> 02:14:36,920
Speaker 1: it a full on ankle lock. Bro Like my ankle

3064
02:14:37,040 --> 02:14:39,160
Speaker 1: was I'm just like and I couldn't believe it that

3065
02:14:39,240 --> 02:14:42,240
Speaker 1: he was somebody, a quarterback was doing this. There's a

3066
02:14:42,640 --> 02:14:45,200
Speaker 1: picture of him somewhere, me and him standing up in

3067
02:14:45,240 --> 02:14:47,120
Speaker 1: the back of the endzone about to square off and fight.

3068
02:14:47,600 --> 02:14:49,360
Speaker 1: And he walked right up on me and he was

3069
02:14:49,400 --> 02:14:50,880
Speaker 1: about to We're about to fight in the back of

3070
02:14:50,880 --> 02:14:52,760
Speaker 1: the end zone. And at that moment, man, he got

3071
02:14:52,800 --> 02:14:54,760
Speaker 1: my respecse, like, man, this dude is tough.

3072
02:14:55,040 --> 02:14:56,640
Speaker 5: No ship, this is what you are. You all in college,

3073
02:14:56,720 --> 02:14:57,280
Speaker 5: just in college?

3074
02:14:57,480 --> 02:14:58,560
Speaker 1: There is yeah, there it is.

3075
02:15:00,760 --> 02:15:04,000
Speaker 5: Philip Rivers is like a notorious ship talker that never curses.

3076
02:15:04,120 --> 02:15:04,320
Speaker 4: Ever.

3077
02:15:04,560 --> 02:15:08,840
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable because at that time and his team, his

3078
02:15:08,880 --> 02:15:11,440
Speaker 1: teammates an NC State, loved him and I didn't know how,

3079
02:15:11,520 --> 02:15:14,080
Speaker 1: like he's an asshole, you know, like he's always talking.

3080
02:15:14,160 --> 02:15:16,480
Speaker 1: And when I got there my rookie year, and you

3081
02:15:16,800 --> 02:15:18,360
Speaker 1: got a chance to be around him, and you saw

3082
02:15:18,480 --> 02:15:21,800
Speaker 1: that competitive spirit and it was NonStop. But it wasn't

3083
02:15:21,840 --> 02:15:24,640
Speaker 1: even on the field anymore. It was dominoes, it was cards,

3084
02:15:24,760 --> 02:15:26,720
Speaker 1: it was He'll walk by you in the gym and

3085
02:15:28,080 --> 02:15:30,960
Speaker 1: you know we're playing let's call it the Seattle Seahawks

3086
02:15:31,040 --> 02:15:34,280
Speaker 1: or whatever, and uh, Walter Jones, you know wall pro

3087
02:15:34,760 --> 02:15:37,040
Speaker 1: Walter Jones is there and I got the you know,

3088
02:15:37,160 --> 02:15:38,960
Speaker 1: just during the season, I got the one twenties on

3089
02:15:39,000 --> 02:15:41,440
Speaker 1: the dumbbells. I'm cranking them out for ten. He'll walk

3090
02:15:41,520 --> 02:15:43,080
Speaker 1: by me like, you know, you got Walter Jones. It

3091
02:15:43,080 --> 02:15:45,280
Speaker 1: was one twenties. Not gonna do nothing right. This is

3092
02:15:45,400 --> 02:15:49,200
Speaker 1: him just NonStop, constantly talk, just bro this non stop.

3093
02:15:49,640 --> 02:15:51,560
Speaker 1: And I go and I grabbed the one thirties. Now

3094
02:15:51,600 --> 02:15:53,720
Speaker 1: I'm pissed off, you know. And so it was with him,

3095
02:15:54,720 --> 02:15:58,520
Speaker 1: uh I. And I'm glad that everybody's getting an opportunity

3096
02:15:58,560 --> 02:16:01,960
Speaker 1: to see him because it's got the audio. Now now

3097
02:16:02,040 --> 02:16:04,880
Speaker 1: he's like praised for. But if there was a time

3098
02:16:04,960 --> 02:16:08,160
Speaker 1: where Philip was seriously hated, he was like the Jake,

3099
02:16:08,440 --> 02:16:10,720
Speaker 1: Like he was really looped in with Jay Cutler a lot,

3100
02:16:10,840 --> 02:16:13,520
Speaker 1: and this dude's asshole and he talks trash. They had

3101
02:16:13,600 --> 02:16:16,200
Speaker 1: pictures and videos of him talking trash. We were playing

3102
02:16:16,240 --> 02:16:20,840
Speaker 1: the Colts and the Champion in playoffs, so he he

3103
02:16:20,960 --> 02:16:22,720
Speaker 1: had this thing about on people just like oh this

3104
02:16:22,840 --> 02:16:25,400
Speaker 1: dude's a jerk and he wasn't at all. And I

3105
02:16:25,520 --> 02:16:26,880
Speaker 1: was like, man, I wish you just I wish you

3106
02:16:26,960 --> 02:16:29,680
Speaker 1: got a chance to know him, because he's not being

3107
02:16:29,800 --> 02:16:31,800
Speaker 1: serious at all. It's not like he's the type man

3108
02:16:31,880 --> 02:16:33,640
Speaker 1: you hit him, he'll tap you on the head. But hey,

3109
02:16:33,959 --> 02:16:36,520
Speaker 1: you almost got me. Next time you got it, and

3110
02:16:36,600 --> 02:16:38,879
Speaker 1: you like, why are you why are you talking? Why

3111
02:16:38,920 --> 02:16:41,840
Speaker 1: are you talking so much? But you start to over time,

3112
02:16:41,879 --> 02:16:45,040
Speaker 1: you just started to appreciate his his competitiveness, for sure,

3113
02:16:45,120 --> 02:16:46,560
Speaker 1: the most competitive player I ever played with.

3114
02:16:46,760 --> 02:16:48,840
Speaker 5: Something about these old school quarterbacks just seem like they're

3115
02:16:49,000 --> 02:16:51,800
Speaker 5: like great, like shit talkers, pranking like we had Peyton

3116
02:16:51,840 --> 02:16:53,560
Speaker 5: Manning on he was talking about the pranks he would do.

3117
02:16:54,000 --> 02:16:55,400
Speaker 5: Tom Brady, I've hed done a lot of pranks. Was

3118
02:16:55,440 --> 02:16:56,440
Speaker 5: he a big prank guy at all?

3119
02:16:57,000 --> 02:16:58,960
Speaker 1: Oh? Dude, he never stopped playing. He was the biggest kid.

3120
02:16:59,000 --> 02:17:01,520
Speaker 1: Did you can ever imagine he? So I used to

3121
02:17:01,560 --> 02:17:04,920
Speaker 1: break down the huddle before the game, you know, kind

3122
02:17:04,959 --> 02:17:08,160
Speaker 1: of let's get it, let's get and so Phillips will

3123
02:17:08,200 --> 02:17:11,920
Speaker 1: start imitate me everything that I do, and he can

3124
02:17:12,080 --> 02:17:13,959
Speaker 1: he can walk and he can walk like me. It's

3125
02:17:14,040 --> 02:17:17,640
Speaker 1: the craziest thing ever. B he's a he's a big kid. Yeah,

3126
02:17:17,840 --> 02:17:21,680
Speaker 1: and so he's uh, he's like, uh, he's like the kid.

3127
02:17:21,720 --> 02:17:24,560
Speaker 1: You gotta watch what you stay around because they repeat.

3128
02:17:25,600 --> 02:17:28,080
Speaker 1: So he's had had a mock you, right, and so

3129
02:17:28,200 --> 02:17:31,800
Speaker 1: he had these things, uh the freestyle Fridays, you know

3130
02:17:32,160 --> 02:17:35,560
Speaker 1: longer freestyle Fridays. And so we would have whatever whatever

3131
02:17:35,720 --> 02:17:39,360
Speaker 1: the the hottest song at that time on the radio

3132
02:17:39,520 --> 02:17:40,920
Speaker 1: will play. We will play it all the time in

3133
02:17:41,000 --> 02:17:43,080
Speaker 1: the locker room. And again, you can't you gotta watch

3134
02:17:43,120 --> 02:17:46,360
Speaker 1: Philip because he he would listen. He's he watches and

3135
02:17:46,480 --> 02:17:49,160
Speaker 1: listens to everything, even if he's not saying that he's

3136
02:17:49,240 --> 02:17:51,640
Speaker 1: watching you. It's like a comedian's waiting to bust jokes

3137
02:17:51,680 --> 02:17:54,640
Speaker 1: on you that he's just waiting and he watches everything

3138
02:17:54,680 --> 02:17:57,920
Speaker 1: you do. And so whatever the hottest radio show was on,

3139
02:17:58,120 --> 02:17:59,680
Speaker 1: we were in the team meeting room and the defense

3140
02:17:59,720 --> 02:18:03,000
Speaker 1: team room and we're sitting there watching the film and

3141
02:18:03,080 --> 02:18:05,160
Speaker 1: we hear somebody coming down the hallway but they're rapping.

3142
02:18:07,120 --> 02:18:10,320
Speaker 1: Who's that they're loud? We got up. It was like

3143
02:18:11,160 --> 02:18:14,160
Speaker 1: walk by of doing this Philip rapping to whatever the

3144
02:18:14,240 --> 02:18:19,680
Speaker 1: hottest track was on the radio, just straight bars. Yeah,

3145
02:18:19,920 --> 02:18:21,880
Speaker 1: and it was almost like one of these things where

3146
02:18:23,600 --> 02:18:25,720
Speaker 1: he just picked up on everything you did and he

3147
02:18:25,920 --> 02:18:28,640
Speaker 1: he would rap whatever the whatever the latest song was,

3148
02:18:29,840 --> 02:18:37,600
Speaker 1: Well he d no dude, Dre Drew. That Drew Drew

3149
02:18:37,720 --> 02:18:40,880
Speaker 1: was like always locked in, bro, you know, like just

3150
02:18:41,040 --> 02:18:44,480
Speaker 1: really focused, going straight to whatever he's doing. Like he

3151
02:18:44,560 --> 02:18:47,760
Speaker 1: didn't really joke around a whole lot, but it was

3152
02:18:47,879 --> 02:18:49,440
Speaker 1: It was cool to see that because I walked in

3153
02:18:49,520 --> 02:18:51,400
Speaker 1: the locker room. You got Drew Brees as a starter,

3154
02:18:51,560 --> 02:18:54,560
Speaker 1: he got Philip Rivers, the backup crazy which is.

3155
02:18:54,640 --> 02:18:58,360
Speaker 4: Nuts nuts bro. And then you also in Buffalo, who

3156
02:18:58,440 --> 02:19:01,680
Speaker 4: is it a fitzmagic yep, the quarterback.

3157
02:19:01,840 --> 02:19:05,400
Speaker 5: Just three very unique personalities. Yeah, what did fits Uh?

3158
02:19:06,120 --> 02:19:07,920
Speaker 5: I heard this rumor of rep Fits that he would

3159
02:19:07,959 --> 02:19:11,160
Speaker 5: get Yeti coolers for his offensive linement every single year

3160
02:19:11,320 --> 02:19:13,360
Speaker 5: with his face on it. Did that hold true in Buffalo?

3161
02:19:13,520 --> 02:19:13,960
Speaker 1: I think so.

3162
02:19:15,600 --> 02:19:17,440
Speaker 5: So he was in the Titans, I think the year

3163
02:19:17,440 --> 02:19:19,480
Speaker 5: before I got there, and everybody had a Yetti cooler,

3164
02:19:19,560 --> 02:19:22,439
Speaker 5: like the big one with his little like a silhouette

3165
02:19:22,440 --> 02:19:24,520
Speaker 5: of his face and beard all on that thing.

3166
02:19:25,080 --> 02:19:28,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's so I would you know. At the time,

3167
02:19:28,480 --> 02:19:30,040
Speaker 1: I was, I was single, so I was like looking

3168
02:19:30,080 --> 02:19:32,680
Speaker 1: at girls and stuff on social media, you know, And

3169
02:19:32,840 --> 02:19:35,320
Speaker 1: so sometime I would be, you know, looking at stuff

3170
02:19:35,400 --> 02:19:37,760
Speaker 1: on the on social media, and I have my phone down.

3171
02:19:38,320 --> 02:19:39,760
Speaker 1: He will come to my locker every day. He just

3172
02:19:39,800 --> 02:19:40,800
Speaker 1: looks like, who do you got?

3173
02:19:40,840 --> 02:19:42,119
Speaker 4: Who do we got today?

3174
02:19:42,360 --> 02:19:45,840
Speaker 5: Who we got out there today? That is so funny.

3175
02:19:46,480 --> 02:19:48,560
Speaker 1: He was the I played with some I played with

3176
02:19:48,640 --> 02:19:51,840
Speaker 1: some great dudes, man, and he's definitely one of me's

3177
02:19:51,879 --> 02:19:52,480
Speaker 1: up there for sure.

3178
02:19:53,120 --> 02:19:56,000
Speaker 4: Why was the transition going from l A Oh you know,

3179
02:19:56,040 --> 02:19:57,800
Speaker 4: go ahead, Sorry, I thought you was transition out of NFL,

3180
02:19:57,879 --> 02:20:01,360
Speaker 4: but go ahead, No, yeah, transitioning going from where you

3181
02:20:01,440 --> 02:20:03,000
Speaker 4: were at the impact you made in LA and then

3182
02:20:03,040 --> 02:20:03,800
Speaker 4: going out to Buffalo.

3183
02:20:04,640 --> 02:20:08,840
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so I got I got waved by the Chargers.

3184
02:20:08,879 --> 02:20:09,080
Speaker 7: I was.

3185
02:20:09,240 --> 02:20:10,720
Speaker 1: I had so many interest to back to back. You

3186
02:20:10,760 --> 02:20:13,400
Speaker 1: were talking about the compensation thing, Like my achilles were

3187
02:20:13,440 --> 02:20:15,720
Speaker 1: partially torn and kept tearing a little bit more and

3188
02:20:15,800 --> 02:20:17,720
Speaker 1: a little bit more to time until it eventually popped.

3189
02:20:18,840 --> 02:20:20,640
Speaker 1: But at the time I was compensated. So I had

3190
02:20:20,640 --> 02:20:23,840
Speaker 1: a calf, a hip, a knee. It was just constant

3191
02:20:23,920 --> 02:20:26,640
Speaker 1: and I just couldn't stay healthy. So finally they just

3192
02:20:26,879 --> 02:20:28,720
Speaker 1: they had to stop the bleeding and they and they

3193
02:20:28,800 --> 02:20:30,920
Speaker 1: waved me and then when you get waved at the time,

3194
02:20:31,000 --> 02:20:35,480
Speaker 1: the team with the worst record gets for zibs and

3195
02:20:35,560 --> 02:20:37,880
Speaker 1: at the time like Buffalo's own six, I think own

3196
02:20:37,920 --> 02:20:38,680
Speaker 1: six or seven.

3197
02:20:39,200 --> 02:20:41,160
Speaker 4: Where's your mental at when you get waved like all

3198
02:20:41,240 --> 02:20:43,440
Speaker 4: that you can't see obviously you get in the tank.

3199
02:20:43,879 --> 02:20:45,959
Speaker 4: It's an up and down ride, like where were you at? Mentally?

3200
02:20:46,200 --> 02:20:46,440
Speaker 4: I was.

3201
02:20:46,760 --> 02:20:50,320
Speaker 1: I was shocked and it didn't really hit me until

3202
02:20:50,360 --> 02:20:53,480
Speaker 1: I left the building. And so I remember going to

3203
02:20:54,120 --> 02:20:59,160
Speaker 1: mean coach coaches were crying, I mean bags Pegana, I mean, Monunsky.

3204
02:20:59,200 --> 02:21:01,360
Speaker 1: Everybody was just like like it was it was like

3205
02:21:01,400 --> 02:21:04,680
Speaker 1: a dark cloud that day because I don't think anybody's

3206
02:21:05,720 --> 02:21:09,040
Speaker 1: anybody saw me ever leaving the charges, but I just

3207
02:21:09,160 --> 02:21:11,200
Speaker 1: had I had so many injuries at that time. They

3208
02:21:11,280 --> 02:21:15,280
Speaker 1: had it just I couldn't say healthy. And so I mean,

3209
02:21:15,280 --> 02:21:17,280
Speaker 1: even when I was talking to the dean and owner,

3210
02:21:17,400 --> 02:21:18,920
Speaker 1: it was just it was a sad It was a

3211
02:21:19,080 --> 02:21:22,960
Speaker 1: very sad day in that building. And you know, yeah

3212
02:21:22,959 --> 02:21:24,960
Speaker 1: it was ignored if it was bad. It was like

3213
02:21:25,200 --> 02:21:27,840
Speaker 1: it was a really bad day. And so I left

3214
02:21:29,080 --> 02:21:31,560
Speaker 1: and then when I walked out the building, that's when

3215
02:21:31,600 --> 02:21:33,640
Speaker 1: it hit me, because right there you got somebody to

3216
02:21:33,680 --> 02:21:35,280
Speaker 1: come up and tell you got to go see their owner,

3217
02:21:35,720 --> 02:21:37,760
Speaker 1: you go see the coaches. So you're talking to everybody,

3218
02:21:37,800 --> 02:21:40,120
Speaker 1: but you're not getting the opportunity to take all of

3219
02:21:40,200 --> 02:21:42,920
Speaker 1: that in yet. And it didn't hit me until I

3220
02:21:43,000 --> 02:21:44,520
Speaker 1: walked out the building. I got in the car and

3221
02:21:44,640 --> 02:21:47,000
Speaker 1: it was like I didn't cry, man, but I sat

3222
02:21:47,080 --> 02:21:49,800
Speaker 1: there and was like, man, is this it's this real?

3223
02:21:50,040 --> 02:21:53,200
Speaker 1: Like that just get cut because you know, I never

3224
02:21:53,240 --> 02:21:55,640
Speaker 1: been cut for anything in my life, and so I

3225
02:21:55,720 --> 02:21:58,560
Speaker 1: think for me, you know, I hate what people say

3226
02:21:59,080 --> 02:22:02,760
Speaker 1: it's humbling, right because you it wasn't like I wasn't humble.

3227
02:22:02,879 --> 02:22:05,760
Speaker 1: You just didn't see that happening to you, you know

3228
02:22:05,760 --> 02:22:08,879
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like you know that people pass away

3229
02:22:08,959 --> 02:22:10,920
Speaker 1: and that's part of life, but you don't feel that

3230
02:22:11,000 --> 02:22:13,400
Speaker 1: until there's somebody really really close to you. You know.

3231
02:22:13,440 --> 02:22:14,880
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where I was like, you've

3232
02:22:14,879 --> 02:22:16,480
Speaker 1: seen people get caught all the time, you know, I

3233
02:22:16,560 --> 02:22:19,119
Speaker 1: think that I think the year before or out run

3234
02:22:19,160 --> 02:22:23,040
Speaker 1: at time like lt uh darren Spros like it was

3235
02:22:23,120 --> 02:22:25,680
Speaker 1: it was guys Michael Turner who loved what he so

3236
02:22:25,959 --> 02:22:28,160
Speaker 1: you knew it was guys first round draft picks, and

3237
02:22:28,240 --> 02:22:30,560
Speaker 1: so I was leaving, so I knew it was as

3238
02:22:30,680 --> 02:22:32,640
Speaker 1: one point is gonna happen, It was just how and

3239
02:22:32,680 --> 02:22:35,680
Speaker 1: when it happened was I was shocked. And so I

3240
02:22:35,760 --> 02:22:38,440
Speaker 1: got home and I would say, like not even a

3241
02:22:38,600 --> 02:22:40,520
Speaker 1: day or two. Well, a couple of days went by.

3242
02:22:41,600 --> 02:22:45,600
Speaker 1: And I think that year, me and Randy Moss because

3243
02:22:45,640 --> 02:22:47,520
Speaker 1: he was waved too, Me and Randy Moss had the

3244
02:22:47,640 --> 02:22:50,440
Speaker 1: most teams that ever claim claim us awful wave waivers

3245
02:22:50,760 --> 02:22:54,280
Speaker 1: because that normally you go through the waiver wire and

3246
02:22:54,400 --> 02:22:56,640
Speaker 1: then you can pick and choose with TV then then

3247
02:22:56,720 --> 02:22:58,600
Speaker 1: you're a real free agent. And I think that year

3248
02:22:59,320 --> 02:23:01,680
Speaker 1: me and Randy Moss had tied for like four to

3249
02:23:02,360 --> 02:23:04,560
Speaker 1: six teams that picked us up on the waivers. But

3250
02:23:04,680 --> 02:23:08,240
Speaker 1: Buffalo had the worst record, and so Buddy Nicks, who

3251
02:23:08,600 --> 02:23:12,240
Speaker 1: was behind A. J. Smith as general manager in San Diego,

3252
02:23:12,840 --> 02:23:15,880
Speaker 1: he was now the general manager in Buffalo. So I

3253
02:23:15,920 --> 02:23:17,640
Speaker 1: remember Buddy Nicks called to me and he was like,

3254
02:23:17,840 --> 02:23:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, Sean, we can really use you out here

3255
02:23:21,200 --> 02:23:24,520
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. And you know, he talked for like five minutes.

3256
02:23:24,560 --> 02:23:27,120
Speaker 1: I said, look, Buddy, I love you to death, man,

3257
02:23:27,280 --> 02:23:30,600
Speaker 1: but I'm not coming out there. I'm not going. And

3258
02:23:30,720 --> 02:23:32,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't because of the city of Buffalo. They were

3259
02:23:32,520 --> 02:23:34,520
Speaker 1: owing six, they had no they were basically knocked out

3260
02:23:34,520 --> 02:23:36,280
Speaker 1: of the playoffs in the middle of the season. Right

3261
02:23:37,240 --> 02:23:39,000
Speaker 1: before the middle of the season, they were pretty much done.

3262
02:23:39,600 --> 02:23:41,360
Speaker 1: And I said, Buddy, look, you know I love you

3263
02:23:41,400 --> 02:23:43,160
Speaker 1: to death, man, but let me go into a team

3264
02:23:43,240 --> 02:23:45,720
Speaker 1: that may go to the playoffs, right and then after

3265
02:23:45,760 --> 02:23:47,560
Speaker 1: the season. Now, you got my word, I'll come. You'll

3266
02:23:47,560 --> 02:23:51,240
Speaker 1: be the first visit I'll take after the season. And

3267
02:23:51,320 --> 02:23:53,119
Speaker 1: he said, no, we want you out of here now.

3268
02:23:53,800 --> 02:23:56,840
Speaker 1: And you know, we think you help us out in

3269
02:23:56,879 --> 02:23:59,480
Speaker 1: the locker room, and I know you can bring. I said, Buddy,

3270
02:23:59,600 --> 02:24:01,080
Speaker 1: I hear you, but I'm not coming. I hung up.

3271
02:24:01,840 --> 02:24:05,640
Speaker 1: I hung up the phone on a GM. Yeah, yeah,

3272
02:24:05,680 --> 02:24:06,080
Speaker 1: on the gym.

3273
02:24:07,040 --> 02:24:08,200
Speaker 4: How quick does he call back?

3274
02:24:08,320 --> 02:24:11,879
Speaker 1: Fifteen minutes, fifteen to twenty minutes? And so he called

3275
02:24:11,920 --> 02:24:15,120
Speaker 1: back fifteen twenty minutes. He said, Sean, I just want

3276
02:24:15,120 --> 02:24:16,560
Speaker 1: to let you know we put in your contract in

3277
02:24:16,600 --> 02:24:20,120
Speaker 1: the NFL. I said, buddy, I don't care what y'all doing.

3278
02:24:20,280 --> 02:24:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm not coming. So here it is. I hung up again.

3279
02:24:26,120 --> 02:24:28,320
Speaker 1: Call back right back and said, well, if you don't come,

3280
02:24:28,400 --> 02:24:32,640
Speaker 1: it's twenty five thousand dollars a day. Fine, I said, well,

3281
02:24:32,640 --> 02:24:33,959
Speaker 1: when y'all sending that plane.

3282
02:24:36,480 --> 02:24:39,000
Speaker 5: No fucking doubt got to get on it right away, dude.

3283
02:24:39,200 --> 02:24:41,160
Speaker 1: So this is like a Monday tues I've got it

3284
02:24:41,200 --> 02:24:43,240
Speaker 1: was a Monday Tuesday. But they were literally literally sitting

3285
02:24:43,320 --> 02:24:46,840
Speaker 1: the plane the next day. And I said, hey, Buddy,

3286
02:24:46,840 --> 02:24:50,040
Speaker 1: and then Russell Russell Brandon was there too. Who's the

3287
02:24:50,080 --> 02:24:52,520
Speaker 1: president I believe at the time, And I said, OK, guys,

3288
02:24:52,560 --> 02:24:54,400
Speaker 1: just give me your Thursday. Can you send a plane

3289
02:24:54,440 --> 02:24:57,039
Speaker 1: on third? I'm leaving San Diego to come to Buffalo.

3290
02:24:57,080 --> 02:25:00,680
Speaker 1: I need some time to pack and all this other stuff. Uh.

3291
02:25:00,760 --> 02:25:02,560
Speaker 1: So I got on the plane and you know, I

3292
02:25:02,600 --> 02:25:04,720
Speaker 1: looked at the weather in New York. Yeah, but I

3293
02:25:04,760 --> 02:25:08,599
Speaker 1: didn't look at the weather in Buffalo, which is totally

3294
02:25:08,640 --> 02:25:13,800
Speaker 1: different weather. So I got on the sweatshirt, some basketball

3295
02:25:13,840 --> 02:25:16,400
Speaker 1: shorts and flip flops on the plane, I got my

3296
02:25:16,480 --> 02:25:19,760
Speaker 1: suitcase and all that. And so I got there and

3297
02:25:19,800 --> 02:25:22,039
Speaker 1: I'm landing. Do this a full on blizzard?

3298
02:25:23,240 --> 02:25:24,960
Speaker 5: This is a full on blich was frozen when you

3299
02:25:24,959 --> 02:25:25,600
Speaker 5: get off that plane.

3300
02:25:25,800 --> 02:25:29,800
Speaker 1: I mean full on blizard outside. And I remember stepping

3301
02:25:29,840 --> 02:25:32,000
Speaker 1: off the plane and then Buddy and then Russell brand

3302
02:25:32,040 --> 02:25:33,240
Speaker 1: and he's got there they were at the end of

3303
02:25:33,280 --> 02:25:36,600
Speaker 1: the runway. I couldn't see him. That's how bad the

3304
02:25:36,640 --> 02:25:39,480
Speaker 1: weather was. I hadn't I couldn't see them, And I

3305
02:25:39,720 --> 02:25:42,879
Speaker 1: remember I looked up into the sky. I was like, man,

3306
02:25:42,959 --> 02:25:46,640
Speaker 1: I go to church sometimes and like I go do

3307
02:25:46,720 --> 02:25:48,840
Speaker 1: a lot of charity. Yeah, I start think. I was like, man,

3308
02:25:48,879 --> 02:25:51,800
Speaker 1: what did I What did I do? You know, what

3309
02:25:51,959 --> 02:25:52,280
Speaker 1: did I do?

3310
02:25:53,040 --> 02:25:53,160
Speaker 8: Uh?

3311
02:25:53,320 --> 02:25:55,640
Speaker 1: And I was dreading that, man, not because it's really

3312
02:25:55,800 --> 02:25:57,760
Speaker 1: the it wasn't just like the city and the weather,

3313
02:25:57,959 --> 02:25:59,800
Speaker 1: like they just didn't have it. So you're you're playing

3314
02:25:59,840 --> 02:26:02,400
Speaker 1: for what right They're not going to the playoffs? Right?

3315
02:26:03,560 --> 02:26:05,960
Speaker 1: But dude, it was Honestly, I'll say that it was

3316
02:26:06,000 --> 02:26:07,480
Speaker 1: the best thing that ever happened to me in my

3317
02:26:07,560 --> 02:26:10,760
Speaker 1: career because I got out there. Man, you got a

3318
02:26:10,879 --> 02:26:14,200
Speaker 1: chance to see that fan base and like those people.

3319
02:26:14,520 --> 02:26:18,199
Speaker 1: And I was just out there this past Sunday with them. Dude.

3320
02:26:18,200 --> 02:26:21,280
Speaker 1: I was like, man, you I played, you know, you

3321
02:26:21,360 --> 02:26:23,720
Speaker 1: feel like you were playing for like family, you know,

3322
02:26:23,879 --> 02:26:26,440
Speaker 1: second cousin or you know, extended like you do. I

3323
02:26:26,480 --> 02:26:28,400
Speaker 1: got my mom watching the game or you know, you

3324
02:26:28,480 --> 02:26:31,000
Speaker 1: got family at the games. You can't disappoint them. So

3325
02:26:31,160 --> 02:26:33,480
Speaker 1: I had that feeling with them, like I couldn't disappoint

3326
02:26:33,560 --> 02:26:36,800
Speaker 1: these people because of the love that they had for

3327
02:26:37,360 --> 02:26:39,520
Speaker 1: their team. Dude, you could be the second or third

3328
02:26:39,520 --> 02:26:40,680
Speaker 1: string kicker, you were the man.

3329
02:26:41,320 --> 02:26:46,520
Speaker 4: Really you get what I'm saying, Like, yeah.

3330
02:26:44,720 --> 02:26:45,720
Speaker 5: Man, and that's Tailgates.

3331
02:26:45,760 --> 02:26:49,280
Speaker 1: Ever, it's it's something unlike anything. And I know we

3332
02:26:49,480 --> 02:26:51,480
Speaker 1: like a lot of people see the table jumping and

3333
02:26:51,560 --> 02:26:53,480
Speaker 1: all that other stuff, which is how they got on

3334
02:26:53,600 --> 02:26:56,160
Speaker 1: the map, like in a big way because of social

3335
02:26:56,200 --> 02:26:59,920
Speaker 1: media and everything else. But dude, it honestly, I remember

3336
02:27:00,560 --> 02:27:03,560
Speaker 1: I would down eating. I was in a restaurant chipwid

3337
02:27:03,600 --> 02:27:05,879
Speaker 1: downtown and people just walking by me were like, yo,

3338
02:27:05,959 --> 02:27:09,800
Speaker 1: what's up? Lights? They kept walking, no pictures, know nothing,

3339
02:27:10,200 --> 02:27:12,560
Speaker 1: and it was just like, dude, like there was a

3340
02:27:12,640 --> 02:27:15,680
Speaker 1: cousin I've seen it in a while. Cool you know,

3341
02:27:15,840 --> 02:27:17,960
Speaker 1: And so yeah, it's it's something I like, man, this

3342
02:27:18,080 --> 02:27:20,440
Speaker 1: is it's a it's a very very special place. I

3343
02:27:20,520 --> 02:27:23,280
Speaker 1: wish like all these guys that get to play in

3344
02:27:23,520 --> 02:27:27,280
Speaker 1: front of not so great fan bases or the ones

3345
02:27:27,360 --> 02:27:30,160
Speaker 1: that are not really home grown like those, I wish

3346
02:27:30,200 --> 02:27:31,800
Speaker 1: they get his hands to experienced something like that. It's

3347
02:27:31,840 --> 02:27:32,320
Speaker 1: it's different.

3348
02:27:32,480 --> 02:27:35,080
Speaker 5: I had myself a little entanglement with the Bill's Mafia.

3349
02:27:35,120 --> 02:27:37,240
Speaker 5: One time was right after my suspension. We played the Bills.

3350
02:27:37,440 --> 02:27:40,320
Speaker 5: It was like thirteen to ten and Shaq Lawson, who

3351
02:27:40,440 --> 02:27:43,560
Speaker 5: was like a backup, was a talk shit and so

3352
02:27:43,680 --> 02:27:46,080
Speaker 5: I tweeted at him put my phone down like an

3353
02:27:46,080 --> 02:27:48,320
Speaker 5: hour later, like two in her responses, just Bill's people

3354
02:27:48,879 --> 02:27:53,000
Speaker 5: murdering me. Just even the WiFi up there. They fucking

3355
02:27:53,080 --> 02:27:55,800
Speaker 5: got after me. I will never get an entanglement with

3356
02:27:55,879 --> 02:27:56,200
Speaker 5: them ever.

3357
02:27:56,280 --> 02:27:59,520
Speaker 1: Again, dude, it's so passionate, it's unreal, man, And I

3358
02:27:59,640 --> 02:28:03,200
Speaker 1: think that for them, there's a lot of pride in

3359
02:28:03,560 --> 02:28:06,000
Speaker 1: in like that group. You feel like you're at a

3360
02:28:06,080 --> 02:28:07,920
Speaker 1: college game, like when I was there Sunday. Do you

3361
02:28:07,959 --> 02:28:10,080
Speaker 1: don't feel like all the glitz and glamor of the

3362
02:28:10,160 --> 02:28:13,160
Speaker 1: pro games, like you feel like you're at some school

3363
02:28:13,200 --> 02:28:15,040
Speaker 1: in the South, right, you know what I mean, like

3364
02:28:15,160 --> 02:28:16,600
Speaker 1: tailgating and all this other Like.

3365
02:28:16,640 --> 02:28:18,199
Speaker 4: It's just different, like a college.

3366
02:28:20,160 --> 02:28:22,400
Speaker 5: How big of a difference was it between Buffalo and

3367
02:28:22,440 --> 02:28:23,720
Speaker 5: San Diego as far as the fans went.

3368
02:28:23,840 --> 02:28:26,640
Speaker 1: I think it was so much to do in San Diego, right,

3369
02:28:26,720 --> 02:28:28,680
Speaker 1: Like for you to take your three hours of your

3370
02:28:28,720 --> 02:28:30,760
Speaker 1: day or four hours to go to a game, it

3371
02:28:30,920 --> 02:28:32,800
Speaker 1: was a lot because you got the nice weather, you

3372
02:28:32,879 --> 02:28:35,879
Speaker 1: got food, beaches and everything.

3373
02:28:36,040 --> 02:28:37,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, you do whatever you want, You do what you want.

3374
02:28:37,680 --> 02:28:39,440
Speaker 1: I think the difference is with us is that we

3375
02:28:39,560 --> 02:28:42,040
Speaker 1: were so good. We have so many stars on a

3376
02:28:42,120 --> 02:28:44,480
Speaker 1: team from al team and phill Up and Gates and

3377
02:28:44,600 --> 02:28:47,600
Speaker 1: all these guys that people came because of the winning,

3378
02:28:48,280 --> 02:28:51,520
Speaker 1: right you know, and like this the year yeah, and

3379
02:28:51,640 --> 02:28:54,360
Speaker 1: so people came there and that and the Q was rocking, dude,

3380
02:28:54,360 --> 02:28:58,240
Speaker 1: I mean we had that place ridiculously, like just crazy.

3381
02:28:58,320 --> 02:29:00,240
Speaker 1: And I still even looking at a nail, I get

3382
02:29:00,280 --> 02:29:02,039
Speaker 1: chilled because I was always the last one to come

3383
02:29:02,080 --> 02:29:05,920
Speaker 1: out the tunnel every game. And I did that because

3384
02:29:06,000 --> 02:29:09,320
Speaker 1: of ray Lewis. So my sophomore year in high school,

3385
02:29:09,320 --> 02:29:11,240
Speaker 1: my coach, my high school coaches, remember I was living

3386
02:29:11,280 --> 02:29:13,680
Speaker 1: with them at the time. They say, hey, you want

3387
02:29:13,720 --> 02:29:16,200
Speaker 1: to see a linebacker play? And I'm not. I'm watching football,

3388
02:29:16,240 --> 02:29:18,200
Speaker 1: but I wasn't watching just yet.

3389
02:29:18,320 --> 02:29:18,520
Speaker 4: You know.

3390
02:29:18,560 --> 02:29:20,280
Speaker 5: It wasn't like, yeah, you were digestive.

3391
02:29:20,280 --> 02:29:23,400
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, yeah. And so they scraped up

3392
02:29:23,440 --> 02:29:25,879
Speaker 1: some money and they took me to a Ravens game.

3393
02:29:26,400 --> 02:29:30,760
Speaker 1: This is two thousand, two thousand. Yeah. We sat all

3394
02:29:30,800 --> 02:29:32,920
Speaker 1: the way up there near the light bulb. So we

3395
02:29:33,000 --> 02:29:34,440
Speaker 1: had no We had no money too, so we were

3396
02:29:34,480 --> 02:29:37,240
Speaker 1: like six seats up. I could turn around you and

3397
02:29:37,360 --> 02:29:39,280
Speaker 1: like start changing light ball and ship. It was like

3398
02:29:39,360 --> 02:29:41,640
Speaker 1: we were It was the one you're so high up

3399
02:29:41,640 --> 02:29:45,200
Speaker 1: there when you look over your stomach dropping heights. Yeah,

3400
02:29:45,240 --> 02:29:50,039
Speaker 1: we were up there. And so they introduced everybody. They

3401
02:29:50,120 --> 02:29:53,520
Speaker 1: had all these guys Sharper and and Goose and Sam

3402
02:29:53,600 --> 02:29:56,720
Speaker 1: Adams and ball where like they had ed you know

3403
02:29:56,800 --> 02:30:00,760
Speaker 1: they I mean they were stacked, Chris. They had that

3404
02:30:00,879 --> 02:30:03,039
Speaker 1: team that will only allowed with eleven points a game

3405
02:30:03,160 --> 02:30:07,080
Speaker 1: or ten points something crazy. Right, everybody comes out and

3406
02:30:07,160 --> 02:30:09,680
Speaker 1: the you know, the people allowed, and then it just

3407
02:30:09,760 --> 02:30:17,440
Speaker 1: gets silent, a big pause and all in the music drop.

3408
02:30:18,520 --> 02:30:22,360
Speaker 1: It was a Nelly. It's getting so ray came out

3409
02:30:23,280 --> 02:30:27,160
Speaker 1: the fireworks and smoke. And so when I was growing up, man,

3410
02:30:27,200 --> 02:30:28,920
Speaker 1: I used to laugh at people used to pass out

3411
02:30:28,959 --> 02:30:32,279
Speaker 1: of concerts, you know, at Prince or Michael Jackson concert.

3412
02:30:32,320 --> 02:30:34,039
Speaker 1: I'm like, look at this dumb at, Like dumb at,

3413
02:30:34,320 --> 02:30:37,320
Speaker 1: but he's just a person. You know, You're just you're

3414
02:30:37,320 --> 02:30:39,640
Speaker 1: a human being, Like why are you acting like that

3415
02:30:39,840 --> 02:30:40,960
Speaker 1: towards another human being?

3416
02:30:41,240 --> 02:30:41,360
Speaker 2: Right?

3417
02:30:41,720 --> 02:30:44,240
Speaker 1: I always thought it was dumb do until I saw

3418
02:30:44,320 --> 02:30:46,680
Speaker 1: Ray Lewis, And so it came out there and it

3419
02:30:46,760 --> 02:30:49,120
Speaker 1: was quiet and they introduced everybody. It was already loud,

3420
02:30:49,200 --> 02:30:51,000
Speaker 1: but it just got this pause and then it just

3421
02:30:51,080 --> 02:30:57,600
Speaker 1: a place when crazy and I didn't know what was happening. Fireworks, smoke,

3422
02:30:57,800 --> 02:30:59,640
Speaker 1: and then they was playing up Nelly is getting hot

3423
02:30:59,680 --> 02:31:01,560
Speaker 1: in here, and he came out and was doing it,

3424
02:31:02,440 --> 02:31:04,520
Speaker 1: and I thought I was going to pass out. Bro

3425
02:31:04,720 --> 02:31:06,600
Speaker 1: I thought I was going to pass out.

3426
02:31:06,600 --> 02:31:08,560
Speaker 5: Just seeing this small little speck on the floor.

3427
02:31:09,640 --> 02:31:11,840
Speaker 1: It was so hot. If it wasn't for that jumbo tron,

3428
02:31:11,879 --> 02:31:14,560
Speaker 1: I would have thought like answered down there, like I

3429
02:31:14,600 --> 02:31:18,080
Speaker 1: would have no clue. But I saw it and I

3430
02:31:18,200 --> 02:31:20,000
Speaker 1: was I looked at my coaches and I was like, man,

3431
02:31:20,120 --> 02:31:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make people feel like how I just felt.

3432
02:31:23,200 --> 02:31:25,440
Speaker 1: And so when I got to the charges we had,

3433
02:31:25,680 --> 02:31:27,400
Speaker 1: there was a guy there who was six or seven

3434
02:31:27,480 --> 02:31:31,000
Speaker 1: years in Quincy, Scott, I think his name was or

3435
02:31:31,040 --> 02:31:32,720
Speaker 1: something like that, and he was the last one that

3436
02:31:32,879 --> 02:31:34,160
Speaker 1: was coming out, and I looked at him and said,

3437
02:31:34,200 --> 02:31:36,120
Speaker 1: I'm coming out last from now on.

3438
02:31:36,320 --> 02:31:36,879
Speaker 5: That's a rookie.

3439
02:31:37,000 --> 02:31:37,560
Speaker 1: That's a rookie.

3440
02:31:37,640 --> 02:31:39,000
Speaker 4: Okay, that's a rookie.

3441
02:31:39,600 --> 02:31:45,240
Speaker 1: So so you got it and and that's where the

3442
02:31:45,240 --> 02:31:48,480
Speaker 1: whole thing started. But yeah, I you know, for me,

3443
02:31:48,760 --> 02:31:52,240
Speaker 1: I just I was like, man, that ship. It did

3444
02:31:52,320 --> 02:31:53,840
Speaker 1: something to me that day, and I never you know,

3445
02:31:53,920 --> 02:31:55,600
Speaker 1: when stuff happened to you as a kid, whether it's

3446
02:31:55,600 --> 02:31:59,160
Speaker 1: good trauma or bad trauma, you remember that, yes, And

3447
02:31:59,440 --> 02:32:02,200
Speaker 1: I remember remember that at that time, and I was like,

3448
02:32:02,480 --> 02:32:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm I looked at my coaches, I said, I'm going

3449
02:32:04,360 --> 02:32:05,680
Speaker 1: to make people feel like this one day.

3450
02:32:05,840 --> 02:32:06,600
Speaker 4: And that was it.

3451
02:32:06,720 --> 02:32:09,360
Speaker 1: That's wh I started. I actually come out last.

3452
02:32:09,959 --> 02:32:11,080
Speaker 4: That is how sick is that?

3453
02:32:11,200 --> 02:32:11,280
Speaker 1: Bro?

3454
02:32:11,440 --> 02:32:13,200
Speaker 4: To like look back on your career and know you

3455
02:32:13,320 --> 02:32:17,360
Speaker 4: got to accomplish things that, yeah, a rare group of

3456
02:32:17,400 --> 02:32:18,080
Speaker 4: people get to do.

3457
02:32:18,760 --> 02:32:21,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the cool the cool thing about it too.

3458
02:32:21,360 --> 02:32:21,520
Speaker 4: Man.

3459
02:32:21,600 --> 02:32:23,560
Speaker 1: It's like even now, like when I go back to

3460
02:32:23,600 --> 02:32:26,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo and I've I've been retired almost I've retired in

3461
02:32:26,440 --> 02:32:30,080
Speaker 1: thirteen is you know year, and the game has changed,

3462
02:32:30,120 --> 02:32:32,000
Speaker 1: has evolved and all this other stuff. And when I

3463
02:32:32,080 --> 02:32:34,520
Speaker 1: came came out, like social media was just starting to

3464
02:32:34,600 --> 02:32:37,160
Speaker 1: come around, right, So you see all these guys now

3465
02:32:37,240 --> 02:32:39,760
Speaker 1: they got like big social media followings. You think now

3466
02:32:39,879 --> 02:32:43,560
Speaker 1: that Joll had twenty million back then at that time,

3467
02:32:44,360 --> 02:32:47,480
Speaker 1: which is that big? Yeah, because it was. It was huge. Man,

3468
02:32:47,560 --> 02:32:49,040
Speaker 1: It was like it was a lot of it was

3469
02:32:49,040 --> 02:32:49,640
Speaker 1: a lot of shit.

3470
02:32:49,920 --> 02:32:51,760
Speaker 4: You know, how hard was it to face kind of

3471
02:32:51,800 --> 02:32:54,680
Speaker 4: your mortality in the NFL, Like when you started to

3472
02:32:54,840 --> 02:32:56,920
Speaker 4: just not be able to put it together anymore in Buffalo,

3473
02:32:57,920 --> 02:33:00,560
Speaker 4: you know, the injuries, whatever, it is. How hard was

3474
02:33:00,600 --> 02:33:02,320
Speaker 4: it to kind of like wrap your arms around hey,

3475
02:33:02,440 --> 02:33:03,440
Speaker 4: this could be coming to an end?

3476
02:33:03,520 --> 02:33:07,040
Speaker 1: For me? It was difficult because I played the game

3477
02:33:07,160 --> 02:33:09,760
Speaker 1: to be the best at what I do, and once

3478
02:33:09,800 --> 02:33:11,560
Speaker 1: I realized I couldn't be the best anymore, it was

3479
02:33:11,640 --> 02:33:14,480
Speaker 1: hard that part, but also to my my career was

3480
02:33:14,520 --> 02:33:16,840
Speaker 1: cut short that I wasn't gonna be named one of

3481
02:33:16,879 --> 02:33:19,000
Speaker 1: the best that ever did it in my position, right,

3482
02:33:19,320 --> 02:33:22,240
Speaker 1: No hall of fame, no, none of that stuff, because

3483
02:33:22,560 --> 02:33:24,960
Speaker 1: I was I got hurt, you know, I was injured. Yeah,

3484
02:33:25,240 --> 02:33:27,560
Speaker 1: and everything was just kind of derailed. So you had

3485
02:33:27,760 --> 02:33:29,800
Speaker 1: like I don't know if you called it like resentment

3486
02:33:29,920 --> 02:33:31,400
Speaker 1: or what's the right word, Like.

3487
02:33:33,600 --> 02:33:35,160
Speaker 4: You just kinda feel jaded, jaded?

3488
02:33:35,280 --> 02:33:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel you feel De's good. Yeah, So you

3489
02:33:37,680 --> 02:33:40,640
Speaker 1: feel jaded because you knew it on the trajectory where

3490
02:33:40,680 --> 02:33:43,560
Speaker 1: you were going, even the suspension stuff like people talk

3491
02:33:43,600 --> 02:33:45,680
Speaker 1: about the suspended like always fell off, Well, you're forgetting it,

3492
02:33:45,720 --> 02:33:48,480
Speaker 1: Like I also was All Pro the following year, All

3493
02:33:48,520 --> 02:33:50,840
Speaker 1: Pro the following year. I was also up there, I

3494
02:33:50,879 --> 02:33:53,080
Speaker 1: think top five of top seven finish defensive Player of

3495
02:33:53,120 --> 02:33:56,600
Speaker 1: the Year again, you know, so I think that when

3496
02:33:56,640 --> 02:33:59,520
Speaker 1: people see it like the longevity. But seven is when

3497
02:33:59,560 --> 02:34:02,760
Speaker 1: I got hurt. I told my PCL l CL and

3498
02:34:02,800 --> 02:34:05,120
Speaker 1: then everything and Achilles went like a year or so

3499
02:34:05,240 --> 02:34:08,760
Speaker 1: after that from the compensation. But yeah, I just I

3500
02:34:08,840 --> 02:34:10,800
Speaker 1: felt like, man, I was like, damn, I'm never gonna

3501
02:34:10,800 --> 02:34:15,119
Speaker 1: get a chance to get the jack get a jacket,

3502
02:34:15,560 --> 02:34:18,400
Speaker 1: and I'm never going to get a chance to be

3503
02:34:19,000 --> 02:34:20,680
Speaker 1: known as the best, because that's all I wanted. I

3504
02:34:20,760 --> 02:34:22,240
Speaker 1: wanted to be known as the best of what I did,

3505
02:34:22,520 --> 02:34:25,360
Speaker 1: you know, and you want the championships, it's all those

3506
02:34:25,360 --> 02:34:29,200
Speaker 1: are team things that you can't control. But when you

3507
02:34:29,280 --> 02:34:30,640
Speaker 1: walk away from the game, you want to be known

3508
02:34:30,680 --> 02:34:32,400
Speaker 1: as one of the best that ever did. I knew

3509
02:34:32,440 --> 02:34:34,320
Speaker 1: that I wasn't going to be able to do that anymore.

3510
02:34:34,360 --> 02:34:37,039
Speaker 1: So that was that was the hardest thing to accept,

3511
02:34:37,680 --> 02:34:39,200
Speaker 1: knowing that I was going to walk away and I

3512
02:34:39,320 --> 02:34:41,240
Speaker 1: was not gonna have another opportunity to go back out

3513
02:34:41,280 --> 02:34:42,040
Speaker 1: there and finish that.

3514
02:34:42,320 --> 02:34:43,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's tough, man.

3515
02:34:43,840 --> 02:34:46,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's always it's always hard when you figure out

3516
02:34:46,480 --> 02:34:48,720
Speaker 5: the dreams over. You've been playing it your whole life,

3517
02:34:48,760 --> 02:34:50,240
Speaker 5: and you're like, man, this is really the part that

3518
02:34:50,280 --> 02:34:52,080
Speaker 5: everybody talks about, Like eventually you can't.

3519
02:34:51,920 --> 02:34:52,440
Speaker 4: Do it anymore.

3520
02:34:52,760 --> 02:34:56,320
Speaker 5: It just is a shitty feeling when you realize the

3521
02:34:56,480 --> 02:34:58,440
Speaker 5: end is near or you know you're going to retire.

3522
02:34:58,600 --> 02:35:01,119
Speaker 5: How quickly were you jump in the m m are

3523
02:35:01,400 --> 02:35:02,119
Speaker 5: entrepreneurial things?

3524
02:35:02,240 --> 02:35:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

3525
02:35:02,480 --> 02:35:03,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, when did that start?

3526
02:35:03,800 --> 02:35:06,440
Speaker 1: So in the mid two thousands. I grew up well,

3527
02:35:06,560 --> 02:35:08,040
Speaker 1: I grew up in Maryland and d C. So I

3528
02:35:08,080 --> 02:35:10,960
Speaker 1: have my family members that were professional boxes. My uncle's

3529
02:35:10,959 --> 02:35:13,440
Speaker 1: called professional boxers. So I kind of grew up boxing anyway.

3530
02:35:14,440 --> 02:35:16,199
Speaker 1: And if I didn't play football, I was one hundred

3531
02:35:16,200 --> 02:35:18,120
Speaker 1: percent gonna fight. That was like the thing that I

3532
02:35:18,240 --> 02:35:20,560
Speaker 1: was gonna do. You couldn't tell me anything different or

3533
02:35:20,640 --> 02:35:23,080
Speaker 1: that of w W. It was gonna be probably picked

3534
02:35:23,080 --> 02:35:27,640
Speaker 1: that up along the Yeah they were they were probably yeah, yeah,

3535
02:35:27,800 --> 02:35:31,440
Speaker 1: and so so you know it was going I was

3536
02:35:31,480 --> 02:35:33,840
Speaker 1: going to box or or going to w W, which

3537
02:35:33,879 --> 02:35:35,920
Speaker 1: I ended up doing and working with a w W.

3538
02:35:36,120 --> 02:35:39,280
Speaker 1: But I ended up, you know, picking football. So one

3539
02:35:39,320 --> 02:35:41,160
Speaker 1: day I was in the gym and Jay Glazier's gym

3540
02:35:41,600 --> 02:35:44,080
Speaker 1: okay from Fox, Yeah, And I was hitting the midst

3541
02:35:44,240 --> 02:35:46,240
Speaker 1: and he said, like, damn you can you can box? Yeah,

3542
02:35:46,280 --> 02:35:49,000
Speaker 1: you know my uncle's boxers not box a little bit

3543
02:35:49,080 --> 02:35:50,960
Speaker 1: or whatever. Have you ever tried in the may And

3544
02:35:51,040 --> 02:35:52,600
Speaker 1: I think no. He said, well, I think it can

3545
02:35:52,680 --> 02:35:56,879
Speaker 1: help you in football with your hands and you know, coordination,

3546
02:35:57,040 --> 02:35:59,039
Speaker 1: being able to open your hips to get around the tackles.

3547
02:35:59,080 --> 02:36:01,560
Speaker 1: And you know, I said, shit, if it helped me

3548
02:36:01,560 --> 02:36:05,040
Speaker 1: in football, sign he up. I'm in right. So he

3549
02:36:05,440 --> 02:36:09,040
Speaker 1: sent me an address off of Librea in LA and

3550
02:36:09,200 --> 02:36:11,280
Speaker 1: the next day I show up and so I walked

3551
02:36:11,280 --> 02:36:14,640
Speaker 1: in the gym and uh, Jake Glaize is here, and

3552
02:36:14,959 --> 02:36:19,160
Speaker 1: Randy Goatur's right here. So Randy was still compete fighting

3553
02:36:19,160 --> 02:36:21,160
Speaker 1: at the time, and so in my head I'm looking

3554
02:36:21,160 --> 02:36:23,400
Speaker 1: at Jay Glaizer like I'm not fighting Randy Gator to day.

3555
02:36:23,400 --> 02:36:25,400
Speaker 1: I just want you to know that's not where I

3556
02:36:25,640 --> 02:36:28,120
Speaker 1: why I came. You know, you're looking at it like

3557
02:36:28,200 --> 02:36:30,760
Speaker 1: one of the most badass in the two thousands into

3558
02:36:30,800 --> 02:36:33,680
Speaker 1: two thousands, dude, like you like Randy was was a

3559
02:36:33,720 --> 02:36:36,800
Speaker 1: real deal. I think he actually had forty or forty

3560
02:36:36,840 --> 02:36:39,000
Speaker 1: one and just won a championship. He was like the

3561
02:36:39,040 --> 02:36:41,720
Speaker 1: oldest champion ever at the time or something like that.

3562
02:36:43,280 --> 02:36:45,680
Speaker 1: And so I went and I worked with him doing

3563
02:36:45,800 --> 02:36:48,520
Speaker 1: We were pumbling and working on hands and just kind

3564
02:36:48,600 --> 02:36:52,520
Speaker 1: of doing movement. But I was gassed, like I was

3565
02:36:52,600 --> 02:36:54,640
Speaker 1: just we didn't start to work out yet and I

3566
02:36:54,800 --> 02:36:59,440
Speaker 1: was completely gassed. And when this happened, I realized it

3567
02:36:59,560 --> 02:37:01,560
Speaker 1: was something. He just totally kicked my ass at. He

3568
02:37:01,680 --> 02:37:03,640
Speaker 1: was like not purposely, but he was throwing me around

3569
02:37:03,680 --> 02:37:06,320
Speaker 1: because he used my leverage and body and I couldn't

3570
02:37:06,360 --> 02:37:08,280
Speaker 1: understand like how he was able to do this. So

3571
02:37:08,360 --> 02:37:11,400
Speaker 1: I was at that point I became intrigued and like,

3572
02:37:11,480 --> 02:37:13,960
Speaker 1: how does somebody at you know, fifty pounds less than

3573
02:37:13,959 --> 02:37:16,280
Speaker 1: I am, able to just kind of move my body

3574
02:37:16,320 --> 02:37:18,120
Speaker 1: and toss me around like this. I was just intrigued.

3575
02:37:18,480 --> 02:37:20,000
Speaker 1: Or he'll get me in a certain spot and I

3576
02:37:20,000 --> 02:37:21,600
Speaker 1: just couldn't get up. He just keep taking me, taking

3577
02:37:21,640 --> 02:37:23,920
Speaker 1: me down. I just couldn't get it. So I text him.

3578
02:37:24,200 --> 02:37:26,280
Speaker 1: I got his number. I text him, dude, are you

3579
02:37:26,400 --> 02:37:28,440
Speaker 1: in tomorrow with time? So I'll get down my football

3580
02:37:28,520 --> 02:37:31,920
Speaker 1: workouts and I'll drive up to LA. You know, I'll

3581
02:37:31,920 --> 02:37:34,480
Speaker 1: go because we had that workout bonus, get the workout

3582
02:37:34,720 --> 02:37:37,240
Speaker 1: to get that one. Gotta get it right. And worked

3583
02:37:37,240 --> 02:37:39,000
Speaker 1: out in San Diego and I would drive back to

3584
02:37:39,360 --> 02:37:41,880
Speaker 1: LA to go and work work out with Randy. So

3585
02:37:41,920 --> 02:37:43,400
Speaker 1: I was I was going like three to two three

3586
02:37:43,440 --> 02:37:45,520
Speaker 1: days a week at this time. And so finally I

3587
02:37:45,640 --> 02:37:47,560
Speaker 1: just started every off season, started working with him, and

3588
02:37:47,600 --> 02:37:49,480
Speaker 1: started working with Chuck Lerdale and started being around to

3589
02:37:49,600 --> 02:37:51,360
Speaker 1: do or T's and all these guys in the mid

3590
02:37:51,440 --> 02:37:54,000
Speaker 1: two thousands. Yeah, even like when Tyrone Woodley was coming

3591
02:37:54,040 --> 02:37:56,199
Speaker 1: in and he just really was getting his career going UFC.

3592
02:37:56,720 --> 02:37:59,160
Speaker 1: He was in the gym with us, and there was

3593
02:37:59,200 --> 02:38:01,000
Speaker 1: a couple other guys do people was bad ass, like

3594
02:38:01,080 --> 02:38:04,520
Speaker 1: Clay Matthews, really really good. I think it might have

3595
02:38:04,600 --> 02:38:11,920
Speaker 1: seen Brian Cushing. Cushing, you know, Cushing was was doing

3596
02:38:12,000 --> 02:38:12,640
Speaker 1: stuff at that time.

3597
02:38:13,000 --> 02:38:15,879
Speaker 4: He's into the Brazilian Yes, I think.

3598
02:38:15,720 --> 02:38:17,280
Speaker 1: He's like a brown bell or something like that. You know,

3599
02:38:17,280 --> 02:38:18,360
Speaker 1: I was trying to get I was trying to get

3600
02:38:18,400 --> 02:38:20,039
Speaker 1: Cush the Fight League, so.

3601
02:38:22,080 --> 02:38:26,040
Speaker 4: And so, yeah, yeah, I love it. I love Jersey.

3602
02:38:26,280 --> 02:38:28,560
Speaker 5: The video of him with his helmet off going right

3603
02:38:28,600 --> 02:38:31,280
Speaker 5: to the offensive line for the Browns face and splitting

3604
02:38:31,360 --> 02:38:31,800
Speaker 5: his nose.

3605
02:38:32,240 --> 02:38:34,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a cycle man. I love I love Psycho,

3606
02:38:35,760 --> 02:38:38,200
Speaker 1: and so I just traded every all season. So I

3607
02:38:38,240 --> 02:38:41,240
Speaker 1: already kind of knew. When I retired, I already knew

3608
02:38:41,240 --> 02:38:43,360
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do, and plus my rookie year,

3609
02:38:43,400 --> 02:38:45,080
Speaker 1: when I first got my check, I wanted to go

3610
02:38:45,160 --> 02:38:48,080
Speaker 1: buy all the trademarks and rights that lights Out first.

3611
02:38:48,200 --> 02:38:50,320
Speaker 1: My first thing I did. So when you say big

3612
02:38:50,360 --> 02:38:52,720
Speaker 1: purchase is the cars, but the other purchase I did

3613
02:38:52,840 --> 02:38:57,560
Speaker 1: is big brain purchase. Was it was a company called PJ. Salvage,

3614
02:38:57,840 --> 02:39:01,080
Speaker 1: the big pajama company in Irvine, California. I reached out

3615
02:39:01,120 --> 02:39:04,039
Speaker 1: to them my friend of mine, who was an IP attorney,

3616
02:39:04,720 --> 02:39:06,000
Speaker 1: and I said, dude, I want to I want to

3617
02:39:06,040 --> 02:39:07,920
Speaker 1: go and get lights Out. And so I ended up

3618
02:39:07,920 --> 02:39:09,600
Speaker 1: buying lights Out I think for like one hundred and

3619
02:39:09,600 --> 02:39:11,920
Speaker 1: fifty grand, some one hundred and forty grand at that time.

3620
02:39:13,280 --> 02:39:15,520
Speaker 1: And I still didn't know what I wanted to do yet,

3621
02:39:15,520 --> 02:39:17,120
Speaker 1: but I knew I wanted to own it and then

3622
02:39:17,200 --> 02:39:19,440
Speaker 1: figure it out, so I bought it at that time.

3623
02:39:19,600 --> 02:39:22,360
Speaker 1: And then so when I retired, I knew exactly what

3624
02:39:22,480 --> 02:39:24,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to do, and I started to even train

3625
02:39:24,560 --> 02:39:27,840
Speaker 1: more with MMA guys, and I was also in talk

3626
02:39:27,959 --> 02:39:32,080
Speaker 1: with Bellator. I was to talk to Bellatore. This is

3627
02:39:32,160 --> 02:39:35,640
Speaker 1: like around two thousand and fourteen, fifteen something like that,

3628
02:39:35,800 --> 02:39:37,600
Speaker 1: somewhere around that area, is like three or four years

3629
02:39:37,600 --> 02:39:40,400
Speaker 1: after I retired that I was going to fight. But

3630
02:39:40,560 --> 02:39:42,760
Speaker 1: at that time, I was like ahead of my time

3631
02:39:42,840 --> 02:39:44,760
Speaker 1: because of what I was asking for money wise, they

3632
02:39:44,800 --> 02:39:48,720
Speaker 1: looked at me like I was crazy. And now they're

3633
02:39:48,760 --> 02:39:50,400
Speaker 1: kind of seeing with the Jake Pauls of the world

3634
02:39:50,520 --> 02:39:54,040
Speaker 1: and former athletes like Le'Veon Bells fighting now Frank Gore,

3635
02:39:54,160 --> 02:39:56,240
Speaker 1: like all these guys getting into it. But I was

3636
02:39:56,280 --> 02:39:57,560
Speaker 1: just ahead of my time for the money I was

3637
02:39:57,600 --> 02:40:01,400
Speaker 1: asking Now it was if sean former linebacker. For the

3638
02:40:01,520 --> 02:40:05,760
Speaker 1: charges and bills here, there was no brainer. I just

3639
02:40:05,879 --> 02:40:07,600
Speaker 1: think at that time they just wasn't ready to pay

3640
02:40:07,640 --> 02:40:10,320
Speaker 1: what I was asking for. And then I started to

3641
02:40:10,720 --> 02:40:12,960
Speaker 1: work a lot with the WWE. You know, so I

3642
02:40:13,080 --> 02:40:15,760
Speaker 1: was at the network ww network when at launch, I

3643
02:40:15,840 --> 02:40:19,199
Speaker 1: was broadcasting in the WrestleMania's Monday night raws and smackdowns

3644
02:40:19,240 --> 02:40:23,360
Speaker 1: working with them, and then I was at NFL Network

3645
02:40:23,480 --> 02:40:24,640
Speaker 1: or something like that. At the time, I was doing

3646
02:40:24,680 --> 02:40:27,200
Speaker 1: broadcasting there. But the goal what was going to happen

3647
02:40:27,360 --> 02:40:29,160
Speaker 1: was I was going to train at the Performance Center

3648
02:40:29,280 --> 02:40:33,000
Speaker 1: with WWE down in Orlando. So I was spending half

3649
02:40:33,000 --> 02:40:34,760
Speaker 1: the time with NFL Network and I would go train

3650
02:40:34,879 --> 02:40:38,400
Speaker 1: with the guys in n XT because that was gonna

3651
02:40:38,400 --> 02:40:40,560
Speaker 1: be my first show and they were trying to fast

3652
02:40:40,600 --> 02:40:43,120
Speaker 1: track me to get me there. And the thing was,

3653
02:40:43,160 --> 02:40:44,640
Speaker 1: it came up why I never really signed one of

3654
02:40:44,680 --> 02:40:47,160
Speaker 1: the biggest reasons that they wanted to own part of

3655
02:40:47,240 --> 02:40:49,640
Speaker 1: Lights Out because what people didn't know is like a

3656
02:40:49,720 --> 02:40:53,440
Speaker 1: lot of the WW they make their you know, their

3657
02:40:53,480 --> 02:40:56,520
Speaker 1: talent right, they own right, and.

3658
02:40:58,640 --> 02:41:00,680
Speaker 5: And they wanted a piece of years. Yeah, and that's

3659
02:41:00,680 --> 02:41:01,480
Speaker 5: why it didn't work out.

3660
02:41:01,560 --> 02:41:04,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was part. That was probably the main breason. Otherwise,

3661
02:41:04,360 --> 02:41:06,240
Speaker 1: they had a bunch of company stuff going on. They

3662
02:41:06,320 --> 02:41:08,440
Speaker 1: launched a WW network at the time and it wasn't

3663
02:41:08,440 --> 02:41:11,440
Speaker 1: doing well and so they end up going to Peacock,

3664
02:41:11,520 --> 02:41:13,880
Speaker 1: but they cut like ten percent of their entire staff

3665
02:41:13,879 --> 02:41:16,640
Speaker 1: across the company. So give me a big contract. Wasn't

3666
02:41:16,680 --> 02:41:18,800
Speaker 1: at the at the top anymore at that time.

3667
02:41:20,480 --> 02:41:22,240
Speaker 4: And so but I were you looking to be like

3668
02:41:22,280 --> 02:41:23,440
Speaker 4: a WW superstar?

3669
02:41:23,680 --> 02:41:26,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like that would be I mean, it's

3670
02:41:27,360 --> 02:41:28,320
Speaker 5: the perfect character.

3671
02:41:28,240 --> 02:41:30,760
Speaker 1: I So what I did was what kind of kicked

3672
02:41:30,800 --> 02:41:32,280
Speaker 1: it off. They had a show in San Diego, I

3673
02:41:32,280 --> 02:41:34,080
Speaker 1: think it was One night Stand on pay per view,

3674
02:41:35,200 --> 02:41:38,840
Speaker 1: and I was talking to Paul Triple H and he

3675
02:41:38,959 --> 02:41:40,600
Speaker 1: was like, man, we're coming to San Diego, and they

3676
02:41:40,640 --> 02:41:43,040
Speaker 1: kind of were throwing some ideas back and forth, and

3677
02:41:43,160 --> 02:41:45,000
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, shut I'm down, let's

3678
02:41:45,000 --> 02:41:49,080
Speaker 1: do it. And they brought me out to a TNA.

3679
02:41:49,560 --> 02:41:52,000
Speaker 1: They brought me out the stands and seeing punk it

3680
02:41:52,080 --> 02:41:55,400
Speaker 1: actually handed me like a bamboo stick and I hit

3681
02:41:56,080 --> 02:41:58,360
Speaker 1: Chavez or Travo one of the times or whatever. So

3682
02:41:58,480 --> 02:42:00,560
Speaker 1: that kicked it off because it was a crazy reaction

3683
02:42:00,720 --> 02:42:03,240
Speaker 1: from the crowd. And so at the time, like Paul

3684
02:42:03,280 --> 02:42:05,680
Speaker 1: and Triple Ahs and everybody from ww's like, yeah, we

3685
02:42:05,800 --> 02:42:09,080
Speaker 1: got we got something. You know, we got something. And

3686
02:42:09,160 --> 02:42:11,480
Speaker 1: so we started to just talk and try to figure

3687
02:42:11,480 --> 02:42:13,240
Speaker 1: it out, and it just didn't happen because of the time.

3688
02:42:13,320 --> 02:42:15,360
Speaker 1: I think they were going through a lot of company

3689
02:42:16,040 --> 02:42:17,800
Speaker 1: stuff too, And I wasn't about to give lights out

3690
02:42:17,840 --> 02:42:20,520
Speaker 1: to nobody because I built that already.

3691
02:42:20,760 --> 02:42:22,480
Speaker 4: What were you looking at? Obviously you're doing a couple

3692
02:42:22,480 --> 02:42:24,400
Speaker 4: of things with lights Out now. Yeah, like I see

3693
02:42:24,440 --> 02:42:27,480
Speaker 4: the Lights Out TV streaming service. Yeah, I know you're

3694
02:42:27,480 --> 02:42:29,920
Speaker 4: in kind of with the bills too, right, you're streaming

3695
02:42:29,959 --> 02:42:33,760
Speaker 4: the East West Shrine game. Yeah, that's I mean, that's massive. Yeah.

3696
02:42:34,040 --> 02:42:38,040
Speaker 1: So what happened was when I got because I got

3697
02:42:38,040 --> 02:42:40,400
Speaker 1: straight to TV out, the NFL network broadcast a couple

3698
02:42:40,440 --> 02:42:45,320
Speaker 1: of years, ESPN, Fox Sports, and those those panels are

3699
02:42:45,320 --> 02:42:47,879
Speaker 1: hard because it was like four people. Yes, you got

3700
02:42:48,000 --> 02:42:50,920
Speaker 1: to think, dude, like take a guy like JJ Watt

3701
02:42:50,959 --> 02:42:53,800
Speaker 1: who is no everybody you know, no love, big following,

3702
02:42:53,879 --> 02:42:55,320
Speaker 1: and now he's you know, Hall of Fame got Now

3703
02:42:55,360 --> 02:42:58,760
Speaker 1: he's retiring. It's like as a player, right, you that

3704
02:42:58,959 --> 02:43:01,840
Speaker 1: next guy up, they're looking to draft somebody and then

3705
02:43:01,879 --> 02:43:04,400
Speaker 1: get you off out of there. Right. And so I

3706
02:43:04,560 --> 02:43:06,400
Speaker 1: was fortunate because I was at the launch of all

3707
02:43:06,440 --> 02:43:08,520
Speaker 1: these networks and shows and stuff like that, so I've

3708
02:43:08,520 --> 02:43:12,160
Speaker 1: seen it created. So I didn't launch my MMA league

3709
02:43:12,280 --> 02:43:17,280
Speaker 1: Lights Out Extreme Fighting in twenty nineteen. So ESPN US

3710
02:43:17,600 --> 02:43:20,800
Speaker 1: just left Fox Sports and went over to ESPN. And

3711
02:43:20,879 --> 02:43:22,800
Speaker 1: so at the time, I was shooting at Fox Sports.

3712
02:43:22,959 --> 02:43:25,760
Speaker 1: And so I got up one day and I created

3713
02:43:25,800 --> 02:43:27,760
Speaker 1: a marketing deck. I had a somebody on the team

3714
02:43:27,840 --> 02:43:30,160
Speaker 1: put a four page marketing deck together, and I think

3715
02:43:30,200 --> 02:43:32,760
Speaker 1: I was talking Eric Shanks, the president of Fox Sports.

3716
02:43:33,920 --> 02:43:36,160
Speaker 1: It was somebody there, Jamie Herowinz. It was one of

3717
02:43:36,160 --> 02:43:39,360
Speaker 1: the guys I started a conversation with and I said, hey,

3718
02:43:39,400 --> 02:43:41,000
Speaker 1: you guys looking to get back in the MMA because

3719
02:43:41,040 --> 02:43:43,600
Speaker 1: you just lost the UFC. And it was like, Sewan,

3720
02:43:43,640 --> 02:43:46,280
Speaker 1: in fact, we are, We're looking at a couple opportunities.

3721
02:43:46,320 --> 02:43:50,200
Speaker 1: I said, hey, I'm launching my MMA organization. They said really.

3722
02:43:50,240 --> 02:43:52,520
Speaker 1: I said yeah, And I put down the marketing deck

3723
02:43:52,720 --> 02:43:55,640
Speaker 1: on the desk and I left out and I just

3724
02:43:55,720 --> 02:43:58,880
Speaker 1: got off. They called it. I was on Herd show

3725
02:43:58,920 --> 02:44:01,440
Speaker 1: that deck go down in the garage. Before I open

3726
02:44:01,520 --> 02:44:04,640
Speaker 1: my car door, my phone rings and they said you're

3727
02:44:04,640 --> 02:44:06,040
Speaker 1: still here and I said yeah, I say, could you

3728
02:44:06,080 --> 02:44:06,560
Speaker 1: come back up?

3729
02:44:07,600 --> 02:44:09,560
Speaker 5: So gotta be a great feeling it was.

3730
02:44:09,840 --> 02:44:12,199
Speaker 1: It was unreal because when you you know, you're talking

3731
02:44:12,280 --> 02:44:14,480
Speaker 1: to like Shane sort of president of Fox Sports, any

3732
02:44:14,480 --> 02:44:16,800
Speaker 1: any one of the execs, you're not expecting them to

3733
02:44:16,840 --> 02:44:18,480
Speaker 1: get back to you no time soon. And I wasn't.

3734
02:44:18,760 --> 02:44:21,280
Speaker 1: I was like, just let you know, I'm launching MIAM

3735
02:44:21,320 --> 02:44:23,040
Speaker 1: and Main League here. It is called Lights Out Extreme

3736
02:44:23,120 --> 02:44:26,960
Speaker 1: Fighting here it is. So I go downstairs. My phone

3737
02:44:27,040 --> 02:44:29,000
Speaker 1: rings and I know that Fox the Fox lot number,

3738
02:44:29,000 --> 02:44:30,560
Speaker 1: so I know I'm like, oh damn, somebody's called me

3739
02:44:30,600 --> 02:44:33,560
Speaker 1: for Fox. So I went back upstairs. They sent me

3740
02:44:33,640 --> 02:44:36,760
Speaker 1: to FS one first, and I pitched him the idea,

3741
02:44:36,800 --> 02:44:38,400
Speaker 1: told them what I wanted to do. At FS one,

3742
02:44:39,000 --> 02:44:41,640
Speaker 1: they said, we love it, and then they sent me

3743
02:44:41,720 --> 02:44:43,920
Speaker 1: to the regionals. So we had originally started out on

3744
02:44:44,000 --> 02:44:46,600
Speaker 1: Fox Sports West in prime ticket. That was my first

3745
02:44:46,760 --> 02:44:51,360
Speaker 1: deal that I negotiated TV rights. They didn't pay us.

3746
02:44:51,800 --> 02:44:54,360
Speaker 1: They gave us a two hour time slot, and I

3747
02:44:54,520 --> 02:44:58,760
Speaker 1: negotiated commercial time, so I sold sponsorship and commercials, so

3748
02:44:58,840 --> 02:45:01,000
Speaker 1: every hour you get about sixty minutes worth of commercials,

3749
02:45:01,480 --> 02:45:05,440
Speaker 1: and so negotiated gave Fox. The Fox got their eight minutes,

3750
02:45:05,640 --> 02:45:07,240
Speaker 1: We got our eight minutes every hour, so I got

3751
02:45:07,320 --> 02:45:10,360
Speaker 1: sixteen minutes worth of commercials plus all those sponsors. So

3752
02:45:10,520 --> 02:45:15,080
Speaker 1: I literally launched this company when with sponsors and Fox Sports,

3753
02:45:15,440 --> 02:45:17,200
Speaker 1: and we went to like ten other reagions in the

3754
02:45:17,240 --> 02:45:19,800
Speaker 1: country and then the rest was kind of history.

3755
02:45:19,959 --> 02:45:22,280
Speaker 4: No ship and there's your brain child the whole entime time.

3756
02:45:23,360 --> 02:45:25,720
Speaker 4: So what's the thought what's the thought process of Like

3757
02:45:27,040 --> 02:45:29,720
Speaker 4: I guess explain the market of like getting in a

3758
02:45:29,760 --> 02:45:32,640
Speaker 4: world where it feels like the UFC is the is

3759
02:45:32,760 --> 02:45:34,199
Speaker 4: the premier league for fighting.

3760
02:45:34,600 --> 02:45:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you I think that every major league needs

3761
02:45:36,800 --> 02:45:40,560
Speaker 1: a minor league anyway. Everyone, you know, it's I think

3762
02:45:40,640 --> 02:45:43,040
Speaker 1: everyone and you'll see that got you know, tons of

3763
02:45:43,160 --> 02:45:45,520
Speaker 1: leagues they pour a talent from. But what you hope

3764
02:45:45,560 --> 02:45:47,560
Speaker 1: to have the best talent in the Yorks or the

3765
02:45:47,600 --> 02:45:50,080
Speaker 1: talent from you keep going there because it's gonna make

3766
02:45:50,160 --> 02:45:53,480
Speaker 1: more and more guys go. And so when we first launched,

3767
02:45:53,520 --> 02:45:55,920
Speaker 1: I think the idea to everybody else like, oh, you

3768
02:45:56,000 --> 02:45:58,320
Speaker 1: can't be big because the UFC's there. It's like, no,

3769
02:45:58,480 --> 02:46:01,000
Speaker 1: that's the opposite you. First of all, if you're if

3770
02:46:01,040 --> 02:46:03,560
Speaker 1: you were a real feeder, if UFC is looking at

3771
02:46:03,600 --> 02:46:06,040
Speaker 1: you and they're saying, oh, they got like some some

3772
02:46:06,200 --> 02:46:08,320
Speaker 1: killers down there, they got some dogs. We can go

3773
02:46:08,400 --> 02:46:09,840
Speaker 1: pull our talent. We know they're going to be able

3774
02:46:09,840 --> 02:46:11,400
Speaker 1: to compete against the guys we have when the guys

3775
02:46:11,440 --> 02:46:13,400
Speaker 1: we match them up against, yeah, because they already been

3776
02:46:13,440 --> 02:46:15,240
Speaker 1: through the ringer when they come to lights out of

3777
02:46:15,240 --> 02:46:20,160
Speaker 1: extreme fighting. So what happened was I started looking around, man,

3778
02:46:20,240 --> 02:46:25,760
Speaker 1: and uh, looking at all all sports streaming platforms. Right,

3779
02:46:25,800 --> 02:46:27,840
Speaker 1: I've been at Fox, been at WW network, be it

3780
02:46:27,840 --> 02:46:29,880
Speaker 1: at been at ESP and all these places, and I

3781
02:46:29,959 --> 02:46:33,200
Speaker 1: was like, I know, I know this broadcasting TV and streaming.

3782
02:46:33,240 --> 02:46:36,360
Speaker 1: And I had a lot of relationships in the TV business,

3783
02:46:36,800 --> 02:46:39,040
Speaker 1: including streaming because a lot of them, like CBS was

3784
02:46:39,040 --> 02:46:41,600
Speaker 1: starting to CBS Sports Networks streaming and it was kind

3785
02:46:41,640 --> 02:46:44,480
Speaker 1: of pivoting. So I knew a lot of Paramountain, Fox

3786
02:46:44,520 --> 02:46:47,240
Speaker 1: and everyone else. So my production actually, when I first

3787
02:46:47,240 --> 02:46:50,160
Speaker 1: started out, it was all like former Fox sports producers, directors,

3788
02:46:50,320 --> 02:46:53,480
Speaker 1: camera guys. So I had a group like a nice

3789
02:46:53,520 --> 02:46:55,360
Speaker 1: So my production we looked like we were we've been

3790
02:46:55,440 --> 02:46:58,040
Speaker 1: around for a decade because we had the we had

3791
02:46:58,120 --> 02:47:01,760
Speaker 1: the eyeballs of because I unders TV in production, so

3792
02:47:01,879 --> 02:47:03,800
Speaker 1: I started looking around like, shit, nobody out here is

3793
02:47:03,840 --> 02:47:07,320
Speaker 1: really doing all sports like free ad supported streaming service.

3794
02:47:08,480 --> 02:47:12,080
Speaker 1: And so a couple good friends of mine had launched Pluto.

3795
02:47:12,200 --> 02:47:15,440
Speaker 1: They found it and launched Pluto the streaming service. So

3796
02:47:15,560 --> 02:47:18,240
Speaker 1: I actually was around them a lot, and so I

3797
02:47:18,760 --> 02:47:21,160
Speaker 1: was picking up on things and watched the growth to

3798
02:47:21,240 --> 02:47:24,280
Speaker 1: them and then watched to sell to Paramount. You know,

3799
02:47:25,000 --> 02:47:27,040
Speaker 1: so I was like, nobody really focused it on sports

3800
02:47:27,120 --> 02:47:29,320
Speaker 1: and didn't make it free ad support it, so I

3801
02:47:29,440 --> 02:47:31,560
Speaker 1: knew all the players in the business. So I started

3802
02:47:31,600 --> 02:47:34,200
Speaker 1: calling people. I said, hey, how long you got there?

3803
02:47:35,040 --> 02:47:37,160
Speaker 1: You know you ready to leave? Hey, I got too

3804
02:47:37,240 --> 02:47:38,800
Speaker 1: much of my contract. I call me when you're done.

3805
02:47:39,480 --> 02:47:42,480
Speaker 1: And so I started putting everything in place, and so

3806
02:47:42,640 --> 02:47:45,119
Speaker 1: right now lights our sports TV. We're on every major

3807
02:47:45,160 --> 02:47:49,760
Speaker 1: smart TV in the world, iOS, Android. We got thirty

3808
02:47:49,800 --> 02:47:53,080
Speaker 1: different fash channels there like motocross, motorsports, TNA wrestling you

3809
02:47:53,160 --> 02:47:57,720
Speaker 1: saw was on there too that I didn't start with them, Chess, poker,

3810
02:47:58,200 --> 02:48:01,520
Speaker 1: poker or poker go to World Poker Tours on there.

3811
02:48:01,800 --> 02:48:05,359
Speaker 1: And then we got three hundred different sports movies and documentaries.

3812
02:48:05,840 --> 02:48:10,240
Speaker 1: But it's all sports, no shit. Yeah, sixteen different live sports.

3813
02:48:10,280 --> 02:48:12,520
Speaker 1: And then the big one that I just got was

3814
02:48:12,640 --> 02:48:16,280
Speaker 1: East West Shrine Bowl practices. So NFL Network still has

3815
02:48:16,400 --> 02:48:19,400
Speaker 1: the game for right now. They have thinks the last

3816
02:48:19,480 --> 02:48:21,640
Speaker 1: year on the contract, so I don't know what's gonna

3817
02:48:21,640 --> 02:48:25,199
Speaker 1: happen after that, but I've made up the practice weeks.

3818
02:48:25,240 --> 02:48:27,959
Speaker 1: They never really focused in on the practices, so just like.

3819
02:48:28,000 --> 02:48:30,120
Speaker 4: The Senior Bowl, the recent Senior Bowl, like when you

3820
02:48:30,160 --> 02:48:34,199
Speaker 4: can watch practice unfold throughout the week that week leading

3821
02:48:34,280 --> 02:48:35,560
Speaker 4: up to the game is going to be on lights

3822
02:48:35,600 --> 02:48:36,200
Speaker 4: out sports.

3823
02:48:36,280 --> 02:48:37,160
Speaker 1: Yep. Nice.

3824
02:48:37,360 --> 02:48:39,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's like the most important part of the week.

3825
02:48:39,280 --> 02:48:42,560
Speaker 1: The game is kind of just this is the this

3826
02:48:42,720 --> 02:48:44,320
Speaker 1: is why I really did this. Man. I'm like, I

3827
02:48:44,440 --> 02:48:46,560
Speaker 1: know sports right, Like, I'm not gonna sit up there

3828
02:48:46,600 --> 02:48:49,360
Speaker 1: and try to get in the big picture movies or

3829
02:48:49,440 --> 02:48:52,920
Speaker 1: shoot a lot of original content stuff outside of sports.

3830
02:48:53,000 --> 02:48:54,640
Speaker 1: Like when it comes to sports, as you just said,

3831
02:48:55,000 --> 02:48:57,160
Speaker 1: you started thinking like why, why the hell nobody ever

3832
02:48:57,240 --> 02:48:59,959
Speaker 1: done this? Right, All these guys are competing to improved

3833
02:49:00,040 --> 02:49:02,040
Speaker 1: a draft draft stock or to get drafted, and you

3834
02:49:02,160 --> 02:49:04,040
Speaker 1: got every you got GMS there during the week, you

3835
02:49:04,120 --> 02:49:09,039
Speaker 1: got NFL scouts, coaches, owners sometime will pop into these things.

3836
02:49:09,640 --> 02:49:12,360
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the show. And so my

3837
02:49:12,640 --> 02:49:15,119
Speaker 1: I'm producing the whole week, my production company. We're going

3838
02:49:15,160 --> 02:49:17,600
Speaker 1: in there and I'm having a damn camera right behind

3839
02:49:17,600 --> 02:49:20,400
Speaker 1: the wide receivers and DB's on one on ones, the

3840
02:49:20,480 --> 02:49:22,920
Speaker 1: one on one defensive line against offensive line. I'm having

3841
02:49:22,920 --> 02:49:26,400
Speaker 1: the cameras in that like right there so everybody can

3842
02:49:26,440 --> 02:49:28,840
Speaker 1: see it. But because we played it and you have

3843
02:49:29,120 --> 02:49:31,880
Speaker 1: for me personally, it's like an authentic voice behind this

3844
02:49:32,000 --> 02:49:34,640
Speaker 1: to actually like want to do this shit and love it.

3845
02:49:36,040 --> 02:49:38,959
Speaker 1: And so I think eventually even even by the way,

3846
02:49:39,000 --> 02:49:40,720
Speaker 1: that week of the practice gonna be something real. We

3847
02:49:40,760 --> 02:49:43,199
Speaker 1: got cameras and drones like all kinds of crazy shits,

3848
02:49:43,520 --> 02:49:47,560
Speaker 1: a lot of shot side programming shows and talking to coaches,

3849
02:49:47,680 --> 02:49:50,200
Speaker 1: GMS players. It's really really gonna be an interactive week.

3850
02:49:51,320 --> 02:49:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm and I'm happy. Like the East West this is

3851
02:49:53,120 --> 02:49:54,760
Speaker 1: their one hundredth year, like this is a big year

3852
02:49:55,040 --> 02:49:58,640
Speaker 1: for them, and so they actually I brought it up

3853
02:49:58,640 --> 02:50:00,240
Speaker 1: and they called right back and said, yeah, we Sean,

3854
02:50:00,320 --> 02:50:01,920
Speaker 1: we see what you're doing and we want to be

3855
02:50:02,000 --> 02:50:03,360
Speaker 1: a part of it. And I was like, that's that

3856
02:50:03,600 --> 02:50:06,120
Speaker 1: was big for me, you know, for them to choose that.

3857
02:50:07,040 --> 02:50:09,720
Speaker 1: And then after that I get calls from the Indoor

3858
02:50:09,760 --> 02:50:13,520
Speaker 1: Football League is coming over the gout I f A

3859
02:50:13,760 --> 02:50:16,800
Speaker 1: is uh is there too? Another another emerging football league

3860
02:50:16,840 --> 02:50:18,920
Speaker 1: is coming at the Women's Football League number one women's

3861
02:50:18,920 --> 02:50:22,160
Speaker 1: football league will possibly have And then this one that

3862
02:50:22,200 --> 02:50:25,040
Speaker 1: they're showing now, this was the Mega Mansa that we

3863
02:50:25,320 --> 02:50:28,560
Speaker 1: uh that we launched a couple about a month and

3864
02:50:28,560 --> 02:50:31,760
Speaker 1: a half ago, called the fans on. And so again,

3865
02:50:32,160 --> 02:50:35,920
Speaker 1: as as being former players, we know like the parts

3866
02:50:35,959 --> 02:50:38,480
Speaker 1: of the game that people love to see. And sometimes

3867
02:50:38,520 --> 02:50:42,760
Speaker 1: it's not the game, it's the things around it. The yeah,

3868
02:50:42,800 --> 02:50:46,120
Speaker 1: the meet up, the fomo that you create, Like you

3869
02:50:46,160 --> 02:50:48,400
Speaker 1: can watch the game from anywhere in the world. You can.

3870
02:50:48,560 --> 02:50:51,480
Speaker 1: You can find the game somehow, you can't find a tailgame.

3871
02:50:52,360 --> 02:50:54,520
Speaker 1: And I started thinking. I was like, man, who is

3872
02:50:54,600 --> 02:50:57,320
Speaker 1: really doing this? No one again, you would think somebody

3873
02:50:57,360 --> 02:50:59,280
Speaker 1: would have the weaker practice for these West front both

3874
02:50:59,400 --> 02:51:01,600
Speaker 1: the more important week because some of these guys won't

3875
02:51:01,600 --> 02:51:03,880
Speaker 1: get a lot of playing time anyway. So I'm like,

3876
02:51:03,959 --> 02:51:06,000
Speaker 1: why not make a week out of it? So you

3877
02:51:06,080 --> 02:51:09,640
Speaker 1: make a whole show out of it, which would also

3878
02:51:09,720 --> 02:51:10,960
Speaker 1: be shown in ninety airports.

3879
02:51:11,440 --> 02:51:12,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, they do it for the I mean they do

3880
02:51:12,680 --> 02:51:13,360
Speaker 5: it for the Senior Bowl.

3881
02:51:13,400 --> 02:51:13,680
Speaker 1: Why not?

3882
02:51:14,040 --> 02:51:15,200
Speaker 5: Why not the East West Line?

3883
02:51:15,400 --> 02:51:15,600
Speaker 1: Yep?

3884
02:51:16,200 --> 02:51:19,520
Speaker 5: So what's if you could get the rights to one thing?

3885
02:51:19,600 --> 02:51:20,959
Speaker 1: What would it be for for.

3886
02:51:21,040 --> 02:51:22,080
Speaker 5: Your production company? Oh?

3887
02:51:22,240 --> 02:51:27,320
Speaker 4: Nice question? NFL preseason games? No, you don't want a game,

3888
02:51:27,400 --> 02:51:28,160
Speaker 4: you want the preseason.

3889
02:51:28,320 --> 02:51:30,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, the preseason game, because I think you can get

3890
02:51:30,680 --> 02:51:31,439
Speaker 1: more creative.

3891
02:51:31,560 --> 02:51:33,680
Speaker 5: I see your mindset, I see your mindset.

3892
02:51:33,680 --> 02:51:34,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?

3893
02:51:34,360 --> 02:51:37,520
Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, Why fight over what everybody's fighting over when

3894
02:51:37,520 --> 02:51:39,359
Speaker 5: there's money to be made in these other spots.

3895
02:51:40,240 --> 02:51:42,600
Speaker 1: And you make it to what people want to watch.

3896
02:51:42,879 --> 02:51:46,400
Speaker 1: And you know, preseason for us, especially when you're a VET,

3897
02:51:46,440 --> 02:51:48,520
Speaker 1: you're like, you like want just shit, hurry.

3898
02:51:48,360 --> 02:51:49,640
Speaker 4: Up, right, You want to get your ten players out

3899
02:51:49,640 --> 02:51:49,880
Speaker 4: of the way.

3900
02:51:49,920 --> 02:51:52,040
Speaker 1: You want to get the series or two and be done. Yeah,

3901
02:51:52,280 --> 02:51:54,520
Speaker 1: and so but I think for the fans to get

3902
02:51:54,560 --> 02:51:56,480
Speaker 1: excited about to see that, there's so many creative things

3903
02:51:56,560 --> 02:51:59,800
Speaker 1: that I would do for a preseason game to make

3904
02:51:59,800 --> 02:52:00,360
Speaker 1: you watch.

3905
02:52:00,680 --> 02:52:03,800
Speaker 5: And it's loose. The players are loose. They feel you

3906
02:52:04,000 --> 02:52:07,039
Speaker 5: something about seeing a player with their shoulder pads unbuckled,

3907
02:52:07,440 --> 02:52:09,680
Speaker 5: the jersey up, seeds in their mouth.

3908
02:52:10,280 --> 02:52:14,040
Speaker 4: Yes, there's go bro. He's kind of like us. Yeah.

3909
02:52:14,040 --> 02:52:15,680
Speaker 4: And the only real thing out there that does it

3910
02:52:15,840 --> 02:52:20,000
Speaker 4: is like what Hard Knocks. Yeah, that's it doesn't great

3911
02:52:20,000 --> 02:52:21,920
Speaker 4: to be the only thing. And it's only on one team,

3912
02:52:21,959 --> 02:52:23,119
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Because you kind of see

3913
02:52:23,120 --> 02:52:25,440
Speaker 4: the backstory within preseason and like you said, no one

3914
02:52:25,480 --> 02:52:27,720
Speaker 4: really cares about you know, you get your series or two,

3915
02:52:27,760 --> 02:52:29,720
Speaker 4: but outside of that, it's like you you liked and

3916
02:52:29,720 --> 02:52:31,600
Speaker 4: the Hard Knights because you're seeing the actual reality.

3917
02:52:32,360 --> 02:52:33,720
Speaker 5: But if you're able to take one of the top

3918
02:52:33,760 --> 02:52:35,640
Speaker 5: players wearing a bucket hat, hanging out and you put

3919
02:52:35,680 --> 02:52:37,120
Speaker 5: a microphone on them in the middle of a game.

3920
02:52:37,160 --> 02:52:38,640
Speaker 5: People want to know that you even.

3921
02:52:38,520 --> 02:52:41,840
Speaker 1: Get so creative because the thing is the reason why

3922
02:52:41,840 --> 02:52:43,800
Speaker 1: I created the fans on because it's number one fan

3923
02:52:43,840 --> 02:52:46,520
Speaker 1: engagement mechanism. You can get to like the number one.

3924
02:52:46,840 --> 02:52:48,680
Speaker 1: You can't get closer to the fans in that right.

3925
02:52:49,360 --> 02:52:51,280
Speaker 1: You could be in the stadium, you can watch the games,

3926
02:52:51,280 --> 02:52:52,640
Speaker 1: you can put them on a jumbo Trump. But you

3927
02:52:52,680 --> 02:52:55,760
Speaker 1: look these guys, these all three former players, my former teammates,

3928
02:52:56,160 --> 02:52:59,600
Speaker 1: Legoty Craig came real and cause Sims got all guys

3929
02:52:59,600 --> 02:53:01,480
Speaker 1: I played with, and they just get like this is

3930
02:53:01,560 --> 02:53:05,760
Speaker 1: the ultimate, like fam hangout, try food, drink a little

3931
02:53:05,760 --> 02:53:09,080
Speaker 1: bit corn hole music. It's like, you don't get any

3932
02:53:09,120 --> 02:53:12,840
Speaker 1: better than this. And uh, the Buffalo bills won't dropped tomorrow, dude.

3933
02:53:14,440 --> 02:53:16,160
Speaker 1: When I walked in, I just sold it up a

3934
02:53:16,200 --> 02:53:17,600
Speaker 1: little bit. I ain't gonna like it was like one

3935
02:53:17,640 --> 02:53:21,280
Speaker 1: of those things, dude, it was. It was unreal because

3936
02:53:21,520 --> 02:53:25,720
Speaker 1: they just they do it different and it's a different setup, right,

3937
02:53:25,800 --> 02:53:28,640
Speaker 1: and so you got ketchup and mustard. You know, guys

3938
02:53:28,680 --> 02:53:30,800
Speaker 1: are there walking to speedo it's coldest hell outside, by

3939
02:53:30,800 --> 02:53:33,840
Speaker 1: the way, And you said we got one shot during

3940
02:53:33,879 --> 02:53:36,080
Speaker 1: the show where you see a see of people. Gotta

3941
02:53:36,080 --> 02:53:38,840
Speaker 1: be every bit of three thousand or close to it. Yeah,

3942
02:53:39,040 --> 02:53:41,000
Speaker 1: just back, this is a tailgate, dude. It's not like

3943
02:53:41,800 --> 02:53:44,440
Speaker 1: it looks like a concert. So when we dropped that

3944
02:53:44,480 --> 02:53:48,480
Speaker 1: tomorrow Light Size Sports, it's gonna be massive. And you know,

3945
02:53:48,640 --> 02:53:51,600
Speaker 1: and talks now to get to work with Snoops youth

3946
02:53:51,720 --> 02:53:55,760
Speaker 1: league football team too, so we My thing is I

3947
02:53:55,800 --> 02:53:57,680
Speaker 1: would like to get all thirty two teams for tailgates.

3948
02:53:58,120 --> 02:54:01,040
Speaker 5: For sure, rank them them what they do good, they

3949
02:54:01,080 --> 02:54:02,280
Speaker 5: don't rate them the whole thing.

3950
02:54:02,400 --> 02:54:04,760
Speaker 1: I got so many, so many games that Tailgate should

3951
02:54:04,760 --> 02:54:07,480
Speaker 1: play against other teams. It's a whole game within a game. Yes,

3952
02:54:07,800 --> 02:54:09,520
Speaker 1: And there's so many things I want to do hopefully,

3953
02:54:09,800 --> 02:54:11,920
Speaker 1: you know, you know, talking to enough teams now that

3954
02:54:12,000 --> 02:54:14,640
Speaker 1: I think we we shot three shows and the Chargers

3955
02:54:14,720 --> 02:54:16,240
Speaker 1: just did one with the Bills. I think I got

3956
02:54:16,280 --> 02:54:19,000
Speaker 1: a couple more with the Bills, but mainly, man, just

3957
02:54:19,080 --> 02:54:20,760
Speaker 1: bring it. Do you know what I think too? Because

3958
02:54:20,760 --> 02:54:22,640
Speaker 1: I played in San Diego, was just a lot of military,

3959
02:54:23,040 --> 02:54:25,720
Speaker 1: right and you know these guys get or women they

3960
02:54:25,760 --> 02:54:28,600
Speaker 1: get deployed, so they can't come to the tailgate, so

3961
02:54:28,640 --> 02:54:30,520
Speaker 1: all they get is that two minutes. Yo, I wish

3962
02:54:30,600 --> 02:54:33,480
Speaker 1: you were here, you know that. And I'm like, now

3963
02:54:33,520 --> 02:54:35,320
Speaker 1: you can watch your friends and family on the tailgate.

3964
02:54:35,760 --> 02:54:36,160
Speaker 1: You're there.

3965
02:54:36,920 --> 02:54:37,000
Speaker 4: Bro.

3966
02:54:37,480 --> 02:54:39,400
Speaker 5: Also, I don't know about this, but why not go

3967
02:54:39,520 --> 02:54:41,680
Speaker 5: overseas where they're at and have a tailgate for them

3968
02:54:41,720 --> 02:54:42,240
Speaker 5: for their teams.

3969
02:54:43,000 --> 02:54:45,600
Speaker 1: So there's a thing that I just implemented for our

3970
02:54:45,680 --> 02:54:49,280
Speaker 1: fights where you can simulcast. So I'm working on that.

3971
02:54:50,320 --> 02:54:53,599
Speaker 1: So a lot of these of these troops that are overseas,

3972
02:54:53,840 --> 02:54:56,280
Speaker 1: I want something simo cast where we have them separate

3973
02:54:56,280 --> 02:54:58,120
Speaker 1: where they could feel like they're there at that tailgate

3974
02:54:58,200 --> 02:54:59,800
Speaker 1: even though they're overseas working them.

3975
02:54:59,840 --> 02:55:02,760
Speaker 5: Just that's fucking awesome, man. That It sounds like a

3976
02:55:02,840 --> 02:55:05,959
Speaker 5: really cool project that's got legs right now rolling.

3977
02:55:06,360 --> 02:55:06,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

3978
02:55:06,640 --> 02:55:09,400
Speaker 1: Man, it's massive. And this one, this one was shown

3979
02:55:09,400 --> 02:55:12,520
Speaker 1: in ninety airports. It was live in shaps twenty four

3980
02:55:12,600 --> 02:55:12,959
Speaker 1: undred plus.

3981
02:55:13,120 --> 02:55:15,600
Speaker 4: Cool man. And in the fight game, like, what are

3982
02:55:15,720 --> 02:55:18,720
Speaker 4: like the competitive edges you look to kind of you know,

3983
02:55:19,240 --> 02:55:20,760
Speaker 4: magnify there, Well you do that.

3984
02:55:21,520 --> 02:55:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the biggest the biggest thing is uh,

3985
02:55:25,840 --> 02:55:28,080
Speaker 1: like I got we we built a platform for ourselves, right,

3986
02:55:28,160 --> 02:55:30,840
Speaker 1: playing in the NFL, Right, And like there's no bigger

3987
02:55:30,920 --> 02:55:34,760
Speaker 1: fan base than NFL football fans always always will be king,

3988
02:55:34,800 --> 02:55:35,640
Speaker 1: at least in this country.

3989
02:55:35,800 --> 02:55:35,920
Speaker 4: Right.

3990
02:55:36,400 --> 02:55:39,000
Speaker 1: And so you kind of exposing these guys he's up

3991
02:55:39,040 --> 02:55:41,320
Speaker 1: and coming like superstars who trying to make a name

3992
02:55:41,360 --> 02:55:43,400
Speaker 1: for themselves. Like dude, the mass of having a young

3993
02:55:43,440 --> 02:55:47,400
Speaker 1: Con McGregor, right, or young Ronda Rousey, right or something.

3994
02:55:47,480 --> 02:55:49,120
Speaker 1: You can you get them up there, you kind of

3995
02:55:49,120 --> 02:55:50,879
Speaker 1: build them up and then USC get them a called

3996
02:55:50,879 --> 02:55:53,320
Speaker 1: and they become some mega superstars. But they started with you.

3997
02:55:53,680 --> 02:55:54,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

3998
02:55:54,840 --> 02:55:58,000
Speaker 1: So I think for us, we're trying to create superstars

3999
02:55:58,760 --> 02:56:01,800
Speaker 1: and give these guys it's a platform because we just

4000
02:56:01,879 --> 02:56:03,600
Speaker 1: in the last two months. I think you actually signed

4001
02:56:03,600 --> 02:56:05,560
Speaker 1: two of our guys in the last two months.

4002
02:56:05,560 --> 02:56:09,000
Speaker 4: Awesome. That's awesome. You also do a lot in the

4003
02:56:09,080 --> 02:56:11,840
Speaker 4: charitable world as well, like yeah, pooling and everything else. Yep,

4004
02:56:12,200 --> 02:56:14,160
Speaker 4: speak on that, especially coming from the place that you

4005
02:56:14,240 --> 02:56:14,840
Speaker 4: did come from.

4006
02:56:15,280 --> 02:56:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I think I hate bullies. I hate personal bullies,

4007
02:56:18,600 --> 02:56:21,840
Speaker 1: I hate corporate bullies, I hate any any bully out there, man,

4008
02:56:21,920 --> 02:56:25,640
Speaker 1: Because to me, it was like, uh, we had this

4009
02:56:25,680 --> 02:56:27,720
Speaker 1: sting growing up like I was always was, I bullied

4010
02:56:27,720 --> 02:56:29,760
Speaker 1: the bully. Yeah, you know, it's like it was like

4011
02:56:29,879 --> 02:56:32,039
Speaker 1: a nice guy who was always nice. Everybody can kick

4012
02:56:32,040 --> 02:56:34,880
Speaker 1: your ass like relaxed bro, like you're going too far,

4013
02:56:35,080 --> 02:56:36,800
Speaker 1: Like we'll pick up somebody of your own size type

4014
02:56:36,840 --> 02:56:39,400
Speaker 1: of deal. It's I always hated bullies. And then obviously

4015
02:56:39,600 --> 02:56:41,360
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit like how I grew up

4016
02:56:41,400 --> 02:56:43,039
Speaker 1: and we were homeless a couple of different times.

4017
02:56:43,160 --> 02:56:43,400
Speaker 4: We're not.

4018
02:56:44,480 --> 02:56:47,360
Speaker 1: I started this winter cod drive at the University of Maryland.

4019
02:56:48,879 --> 02:56:51,920
Speaker 1: Then I got my twenty third annual coming up on

4020
02:56:52,040 --> 02:56:56,080
Speaker 1: the sixteenth, which is in two weeks, and so this

4021
02:56:56,200 --> 02:56:57,920
Speaker 1: thing has been going. You know. Now I got a

4022
02:56:57,920 --> 02:57:00,480
Speaker 1: fourteen year old son, like he's in jery, so they

4023
02:57:00,600 --> 02:57:03,480
Speaker 1: all drive. Now he's there at the cold drives and stuff,

4024
02:57:03,520 --> 02:57:05,200
Speaker 1: and hopefully after my ass has gone one of these

4025
02:57:05,280 --> 02:57:08,800
Speaker 1: days that you know, he'll continue it on. Because you know,

4026
02:57:08,879 --> 02:57:10,800
Speaker 1: we didn't like we were a homeless dude. And I

4027
02:57:10,920 --> 02:57:13,200
Speaker 1: remember those winners. We were cold as hell. We couldn't

4028
02:57:13,440 --> 02:57:17,560
Speaker 1: afford colts. We actually put like socks on hand, We

4029
02:57:17,680 --> 02:57:20,280
Speaker 1: put on three sweatshirts because we couldn't afford a nice colt.

4030
02:57:20,440 --> 02:57:22,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and so I got this

4031
02:57:22,680 --> 02:57:26,160
Speaker 1: cold drive in two weeks it's my twenty yeah, twenty

4032
02:57:26,240 --> 02:57:29,680
Speaker 1: third a We've colected over thirty thousand coats over twenty

4033
02:57:29,760 --> 02:57:30,119
Speaker 1: two years.

4034
02:57:30,240 --> 02:57:33,480
Speaker 4: That's amazing. Noose shit, Yes, annual one coming up here.

4035
02:57:33,680 --> 02:57:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, in two weeks at the University of Maryland.

4036
02:57:35,800 --> 02:57:37,800
Speaker 4: Know what's your biggest piece of advice to kids that

4037
02:57:37,879 --> 02:57:39,600
Speaker 4: you do will like identify with that to kind of

4038
02:57:39,600 --> 02:57:42,440
Speaker 4: see that could potentially be on a similar path that

4039
02:57:42,520 --> 02:57:42,880
Speaker 4: you were on.

4040
02:57:43,160 --> 02:57:45,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think one of the biggest things I try

4041
02:57:45,800 --> 02:57:48,000
Speaker 1: to tell them is is there's always light at the

4042
02:57:48,080 --> 02:57:51,280
Speaker 1: end of the tunnel like when I was. When I

4043
02:57:51,400 --> 02:57:52,880
Speaker 1: was we're going through as much stuff as I was

4044
02:57:52,959 --> 02:57:55,400
Speaker 1: with my sun. Right, he's doing my son's ranking them

4045
02:57:55,400 --> 02:57:58,680
Speaker 1: a fourteenth in the country quarterback. Oh no shit, I

4046
02:57:58,720 --> 02:58:00,440
Speaker 1: think it's not one of the Jersey I think he

4047
02:58:00,480 --> 02:58:02,560
Speaker 1: did that ship despite me. To be honest, you make

4048
02:58:02,640 --> 02:58:07,040
Speaker 1: him a Husker. Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to call him

4049
02:58:07,040 --> 02:58:09,520
Speaker 1: from Maryland. He was just at the Syracuse game last

4050
02:58:09,560 --> 02:58:13,560
Speaker 1: week and the Syracuse love them. But I think for me,

4051
02:58:13,840 --> 02:58:15,360
Speaker 1: like going through what I went through now because I

4052
02:58:15,440 --> 02:58:18,440
Speaker 1: was I was always constantly asking myself like, shit, why why?

4053
02:58:18,560 --> 02:58:20,039
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't do anything wrong, Like I'm

4054
02:58:20,120 --> 02:58:22,000
Speaker 1: a good kid. I go to school. You know, I

4055
02:58:22,080 --> 02:58:23,960
Speaker 1: fight a little bit, you know, like, but that's the

4056
02:58:24,080 --> 02:58:26,880
Speaker 1: most you got out of me. And I was like, man,

4057
02:58:26,879 --> 02:58:28,120
Speaker 1: why is this shit happened to me? Like why do

4058
02:58:28,200 --> 02:58:30,960
Speaker 1: I got to come home and there's no food? So

4059
02:58:31,040 --> 02:58:35,600
Speaker 1: you question yourself a lot, and you know, good times

4060
02:58:35,640 --> 02:58:38,920
Speaker 1: don't don't always last neither that's bad. And so you know,

4061
02:58:39,000 --> 02:58:40,920
Speaker 1: any any these young kids are just going through something

4062
02:58:41,000 --> 02:58:43,640
Speaker 1: or feel down because suicide rates are up and like

4063
02:58:43,720 --> 02:58:46,400
Speaker 1: a lot of depression and anxiety and all that shit,

4064
02:58:46,760 --> 02:58:49,000
Speaker 1: just remember that there's always light no matter what. There's

4065
02:58:49,000 --> 02:58:51,240
Speaker 1: always light no matter what you're going through. It might

4066
02:58:51,320 --> 02:58:53,000
Speaker 1: be another week, might be a month. You might even

4067
02:58:53,040 --> 02:58:55,160
Speaker 1: have a bad year or some shit. Just know that

4068
02:58:55,280 --> 02:58:58,160
Speaker 1: you'll get through it and you'll be fine. And so

4069
02:58:58,280 --> 02:59:01,119
Speaker 1: I think that especially the younger kids and there going

4070
02:59:01,160 --> 02:59:03,360
Speaker 1: through and they got no outlet. And I was so

4071
02:59:03,560 --> 02:59:07,800
Speaker 1: fortunate that football was an outlet for me because I

4072
02:59:07,920 --> 02:59:09,600
Speaker 1: feel bad. You know, people ask all the time, or

4073
02:59:09,600 --> 02:59:12,920
Speaker 1: would you let yourself play football? Like yes, yeah, I

4074
02:59:13,000 --> 02:59:15,840
Speaker 1: mean because there's so many things I learned from the

4075
02:59:15,959 --> 02:59:18,720
Speaker 1: game that if I didn't play, I would have never

4076
02:59:18,760 --> 02:59:22,200
Speaker 1: been of the surviving life. One hundred percent. Believe. If

4077
02:59:22,200 --> 02:59:24,160
Speaker 1: I didn't play football, I would have never I wouldn't

4078
02:59:24,200 --> 02:59:26,720
Speaker 1: be sitting there right now because it was an outlet

4079
02:59:26,840 --> 02:59:30,360
Speaker 1: for me. And it also taught me a lot of things,

4080
02:59:30,480 --> 02:59:33,280
Speaker 1: like overcoming Like dude, I mean some of those some

4081
02:59:33,400 --> 02:59:35,200
Speaker 1: of those summers you're in training camp, you're running those

4082
02:59:35,200 --> 02:59:36,800
Speaker 1: half gases and shit, do like you got to be

4083
02:59:36,840 --> 02:59:38,400
Speaker 1: a different individual sometime.

4084
02:59:38,520 --> 02:59:42,760
Speaker 5: To the work ethic, oh man, discipline, everything, yeah, comes

4085
02:59:42,800 --> 02:59:44,040
Speaker 5: involved with being a football players.

4086
02:59:44,120 --> 02:59:46,640
Speaker 4: Selfless nature. You kind of have to create one hundred percent.

4087
02:59:47,280 --> 02:59:49,520
Speaker 1: You know, dog tired and his fourth fourth down and

4088
02:59:49,600 --> 02:59:51,440
Speaker 1: you know, fourth quarter, you're trying to get through it.

4089
02:59:51,480 --> 02:59:53,640
Speaker 1: You can't just go out there quick because people are relying.

4090
02:59:53,360 --> 02:59:55,520
Speaker 5: On you, unless you're a quarterback for the Colts. Whatever

4091
02:59:55,560 --> 03:00:00,280
Speaker 5: you want, just take up plays off whatever you why not?

4092
03:00:00,600 --> 03:00:00,880
Speaker 1: Why not?

4093
03:00:01,040 --> 03:00:01,880
Speaker 5: It's just part of the deal.

4094
03:00:01,959 --> 03:00:04,360
Speaker 4: Man. That's good advice. It's a good advice because football

4095
03:00:04,400 --> 03:00:05,680
Speaker 4: does teach you so much more than next is.

4096
03:00:05,720 --> 03:00:08,280
Speaker 1: And it's yeah, it's I mean, there's very few people

4097
03:00:08,320 --> 03:00:10,200
Speaker 1: in the world's gonna put their shoulder, the finger or

4098
03:00:10,200 --> 03:00:11,960
Speaker 1: something back in place and get back in the game, right,

4099
03:00:12,080 --> 03:00:14,160
Speaker 1: throw some tape on that ship, like just you look

4100
03:00:14,200 --> 03:00:17,480
Speaker 1: back on it now like some sick ship, you know,

4101
03:00:17,640 --> 03:00:20,520
Speaker 1: like how just our mindset and how like we looked

4102
03:00:20,959 --> 03:00:23,200
Speaker 1: at everything like you know, pain was weakness.

4103
03:00:23,280 --> 03:00:25,480
Speaker 5: It's interesting looking out the world now and you see

4104
03:00:25,560 --> 03:00:27,000
Speaker 5: like a couple of people get hurt, like you might

4105
03:00:27,000 --> 03:00:28,800
Speaker 5: be out with somebody and they roll their ankle and

4106
03:00:28,840 --> 03:00:30,040
Speaker 5: they make it a big deal out of it, and

4107
03:00:30,080 --> 03:00:32,320
Speaker 5: you're like, bro, come on right, just like we know

4108
03:00:32,400 --> 03:00:33,880
Speaker 5: it's low and involved.

4109
03:00:33,920 --> 03:00:35,800
Speaker 4: Now you get removed from the game long enough and

4110
03:00:35,879 --> 03:00:37,680
Speaker 4: you just start to have just a different perspective and

4111
03:00:37,760 --> 03:00:40,440
Speaker 4: you see the fish bowl and the bubble that players

4112
03:00:40,480 --> 03:00:43,280
Speaker 4: get in mentally, and you just know, like you have

4113
03:00:43,520 --> 03:00:45,560
Speaker 4: no clue until you get out of it, what you're

4114
03:00:45,840 --> 03:00:48,840
Speaker 4: what you're sweating right now. Yeah, it's just and it's

4115
03:00:48,840 --> 03:00:50,359
Speaker 4: a weird. It's a weird psychology.

4116
03:00:50,440 --> 03:00:52,240
Speaker 5: You shouldn't get out of it either, because a minute

4117
03:00:52,240 --> 03:00:54,480
Speaker 5: you you zoom out a little bit and realize, like,

4118
03:00:55,360 --> 03:00:57,080
Speaker 5: if you're not one hundred percent focused on this thing,

4119
03:00:57,160 --> 03:00:59,199
Speaker 5: you're fucked. Yeah, absolutely fun.

4120
03:00:59,120 --> 03:01:01,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you but the crazy thing is you don't

4121
03:01:01,360 --> 03:01:03,160
Speaker 1: see that stuff to you to you walk get away

4122
03:01:03,560 --> 03:01:05,200
Speaker 1: from the game a little bit, you start looking at

4123
03:01:05,200 --> 03:01:07,680
Speaker 1: everything like even now do you guys? You know act

4124
03:01:07,760 --> 03:01:09,360
Speaker 1: my favorite teamates like shit, man, I played on the

4125
03:01:09,400 --> 03:01:11,400
Speaker 1: team with LT Yeah you know what I'm saying, Like

4126
03:01:11,440 --> 03:01:13,560
Speaker 1: I remember walking in as a rookie looking alt like

4127
03:01:13,600 --> 03:01:14,160
Speaker 1: he was Jordan.

4128
03:01:14,520 --> 03:01:14,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

4129
03:01:15,120 --> 03:01:15,280
Speaker 1: You know.

4130
03:01:15,400 --> 03:01:17,880
Speaker 5: It's like this is a day just people being like, yeah,

4131
03:01:17,879 --> 03:01:19,080
Speaker 5: I can't know if you play with this person that

4132
03:01:19,200 --> 03:01:21,600
Speaker 5: was your actual friend, right, somebody who hung out with Yep,

4133
03:01:22,040 --> 03:01:22,720
Speaker 5: that's awesome, man.

4134
03:01:22,800 --> 03:01:23,320
Speaker 4: Should we get it?

4135
03:01:23,320 --> 03:01:23,879
Speaker 1: Twist a question?

4136
03:01:24,000 --> 03:01:26,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's get this twist This is a question because

4137
03:01:26,120 --> 03:01:27,240
Speaker 4: I'm excited about this one.

4138
03:01:27,600 --> 03:01:29,600
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Uh, can I get that twisted tea add?

4139
03:01:29,720 --> 03:01:32,160
Speaker 5: Real quick? Let me tink you about twist T. It's

4140
03:01:32,160 --> 03:01:34,600
Speaker 5: actually a phenomenal little drink here. Twist T is refreshing hard. Yes,

4141
03:01:34,600 --> 03:01:36,560
Speaker 5: teamate with a real brewed tea and five percent alcohol.

4142
03:01:36,600 --> 03:01:39,000
Speaker 5: It's full of flavor and by the way, very refreshing.

4143
03:01:39,040 --> 03:01:42,039
Speaker 5: Twisted tea goes down smooth, there's no carbonation. Makes needs

4144
03:01:42,080 --> 03:01:44,600
Speaker 5: to drink all day long. Twister Tea feels fun celebrates

4145
03:01:44,640 --> 03:01:47,520
Speaker 5: extreme fandom on game day. It is the perfect alcohol

4146
03:01:47,640 --> 03:01:50,080
Speaker 5: or beverage for game day, whether tail getting a parking lot,

4147
03:01:50,200 --> 03:01:52,400
Speaker 5: watching at a bar, or watching with friends at home.

4148
03:01:52,440 --> 03:01:54,240
Speaker 5: Twisted tea is there to turn up your game day,

4149
03:01:54,320 --> 03:01:56,840
Speaker 5: Keep it twisted. Grab a refreshing twisted tea to day.

4150
03:01:56,840 --> 03:01:58,920
Speaker 5: I have a feeling the Buffalo Bills fans are massive

4151
03:01:58,920 --> 03:01:59,640
Speaker 5: twisted tea people.

4152
03:02:00,120 --> 03:02:02,320
Speaker 1: I needed. I needed some twisted Twist the tea yesterday.

4153
03:02:02,360 --> 03:02:09,000
Speaker 1: Do whatever we were drinking at least twist what I'm

4154
03:02:09,000 --> 03:02:11,200
Speaker 1: gonna use you yesterday because I needed five percent. I

4155
03:02:11,280 --> 03:02:13,800
Speaker 1: needed something smooth that see we were drinking yesterday. Burn

4156
03:02:13,879 --> 03:02:16,480
Speaker 1: holes in your chest and there and everything else.

4157
03:02:16,520 --> 03:02:18,680
Speaker 5: Twist the tea just makes you feel good all day along.

4158
03:02:18,800 --> 03:02:22,959
Speaker 5: This twisted question is brought to us by Sherman or.

4159
03:02:23,040 --> 03:02:27,320
Speaker 4: Mitch or some enthusiasm.

4160
03:02:28,000 --> 03:02:30,960
Speaker 9: All right, twisted question this week kind of basic goes

4161
03:02:31,000 --> 03:02:33,800
Speaker 9: off of your lights out network and your lights lights

4162
03:02:33,800 --> 03:02:36,720
Speaker 9: out of Extreme fighting to save the world. Would you

4163
03:02:36,840 --> 03:02:40,240
Speaker 9: rather have one hundred tries to beat Rock Lesnar in

4164
03:02:40,320 --> 03:02:43,320
Speaker 9: his prime or one thousand tries to hit a hole

4165
03:02:43,360 --> 03:02:43,840
Speaker 9: in one.

4166
03:02:45,320 --> 03:02:45,520
Speaker 1: Rock?

4167
03:02:46,480 --> 03:02:52,560
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, that is a very prime. You understand that

4168
03:02:53,080 --> 03:02:56,200
Speaker 5: national championship at the University of Minnesota Wrestling was a

4169
03:02:56,280 --> 03:02:59,040
Speaker 5: superstar at the w W Heavyweight Champion of the world,

4170
03:02:59,080 --> 03:03:01,440
Speaker 5: the Ufcah, that's who you're taking a hundred times.

4171
03:03:01,600 --> 03:03:04,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't need a hundred though, to be honest.

4172
03:03:04,120 --> 03:03:08,560
Speaker 4: That's the exactly you think it would take. Oh God,

4173
03:03:09,240 --> 03:03:11,360
Speaker 4: because listen, if you were if you were in the car,

4174
03:03:11,480 --> 03:03:13,360
Speaker 4: if you were in the driver's seat to save the world,

4175
03:03:13,400 --> 03:03:15,920
Speaker 4: out of these two options. Elated to hear you say,

4176
03:03:16,440 --> 03:03:18,600
Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, I do think that's our best shot? Yeah?

4177
03:03:19,080 --> 03:03:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I yeah, probably not not very many, to

4178
03:03:23,480 --> 03:03:24,240
Speaker 1: be honest.

4179
03:03:24,320 --> 03:03:26,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, was that? Where do you see the flaws in

4180
03:03:26,560 --> 03:03:28,400
Speaker 5: his game? Do you want what's he couldn't stand up

4181
03:03:28,400 --> 03:03:28,560
Speaker 5: with me?

4182
03:03:28,840 --> 03:03:32,680
Speaker 1: He's a great wrestler. Great, if you're saying that he wrestler,

4183
03:03:32,800 --> 03:03:37,120
Speaker 1: take me down, I got I would not argue with that. Yeah,

4184
03:03:37,840 --> 03:03:39,760
Speaker 1: but if he gets close enough where he's standing up

4185
03:03:39,800 --> 03:03:41,039
Speaker 1: with me, he doesn't. He doesn't have a shot.

4186
03:03:42,000 --> 03:03:45,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is the way you said it. Maybe believe you.

4187
03:03:46,480 --> 03:03:48,640
Speaker 4: But also I heard he talked ship on your your

4188
03:03:48,720 --> 03:03:50,000
Speaker 4: p D and getting pro bowl.

4189
03:03:50,520 --> 03:03:51,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I wouldn't.

4190
03:03:53,520 --> 03:03:53,760
Speaker 7: Corner.

4191
03:03:55,240 --> 03:03:56,560
Speaker 4: He was talking some crazy.

4192
03:03:58,800 --> 03:04:01,240
Speaker 5: I'll tell you this, dude, I have played nine holes

4193
03:04:01,280 --> 03:04:03,240
Speaker 5: of golf in my entire life. I don't I don't

4194
03:04:03,240 --> 03:04:06,520
Speaker 5: care for golf one bit. I'm doing the thousand shots shots.

4195
03:04:07,000 --> 03:04:09,760
Speaker 5: I'm just not you know, once upon a time, I

4196
03:04:09,800 --> 03:04:11,600
Speaker 5: think we talked about getting further removed. It seems like

4197
03:04:11,640 --> 03:04:14,520
Speaker 5: you've kept your edge for me. I see people warming up.

4198
03:04:14,520 --> 03:04:15,600
Speaker 5: I'm like, god, damn, I did that.

4199
03:04:16,080 --> 03:04:16,959
Speaker 4: That is crazy.

4200
03:04:17,440 --> 03:04:20,000
Speaker 1: No, I definitely had to look back from like getting

4201
03:04:20,040 --> 03:04:22,160
Speaker 1: cut blocking shit. I'm like, you know, sometime I'll grabbed

4202
03:04:22,200 --> 03:04:22,680
Speaker 1: my legs and.

4203
03:04:24,040 --> 03:04:26,480
Speaker 4: Sometime these cats playing on You're just like, I can't

4204
03:04:26,520 --> 03:04:28,080
Speaker 4: believe I was out there like doing that.

4205
03:04:29,080 --> 03:04:32,200
Speaker 5: Work, yes yesterday, doing the things he did, Like, oh

4206
03:04:32,320 --> 03:04:33,560
Speaker 5: my gosh, he did that ship.

4207
03:04:33,640 --> 03:04:38,360
Speaker 1: I grabbed both of my I would have came down

4208
03:04:38,680 --> 03:04:41,199
Speaker 1: my patella and my monist which just fell right out.

4209
03:04:41,120 --> 03:04:44,039
Speaker 5: Of the side of my done no doubt, but hey,

4210
03:04:44,120 --> 03:04:45,480
Speaker 5: good luck with bruck Lesner Will.

4211
03:04:46,240 --> 03:04:51,560
Speaker 4: On the twist of question, yeah, maybe I mean, are

4212
03:04:51,600 --> 03:04:56,200
Speaker 4: we talking part three here? Yeah, of course I would say.

4213
03:04:56,320 --> 03:04:58,200
Speaker 4: I would say the thousand tries of golf, like, no

4214
03:04:58,320 --> 03:05:00,240
Speaker 4: matter what, Like you get a hundred try, it's like

4215
03:05:00,480 --> 03:05:03,360
Speaker 4: you gotta think that one can land and maybe all

4216
03:05:03,400 --> 03:05:06,160
Speaker 4: he needs one. Maybe maybe I'm crazy, right, but I

4217
03:05:06,200 --> 03:05:08,640
Speaker 4: would say your best bet is a thousand tries.

4218
03:05:08,800 --> 03:05:10,280
Speaker 5: Just think about when you're on like a ten to

4219
03:05:10,400 --> 03:05:13,960
Speaker 5: fifty seven and fucking he knocks you out and then

4220
03:05:13,959 --> 03:05:16,200
Speaker 5: you guys just both reset to being the first.

4221
03:05:16,240 --> 03:05:20,160
Speaker 4: So what happened? We might be fucked everybody. Yeah, I'm

4222
03:05:20,200 --> 03:05:22,599
Speaker 4: not built. I'm not built like it'd be like after tomorrow.

4223
03:05:22,600 --> 03:05:24,320
Speaker 1: You know nothing. Why I didn't pick the golf is

4224
03:05:24,360 --> 03:05:27,080
Speaker 1: because I know people that play golf almost every day

4225
03:05:27,120 --> 03:05:29,879
Speaker 1: it still suck. You get what I'm saying, Like, Yeah,

4226
03:05:30,000 --> 03:05:32,600
Speaker 1: I just I don't feel I don't feel confident that

4227
03:05:32,840 --> 03:05:35,680
Speaker 1: I will go out there because I'm watching people who

4228
03:05:35,760 --> 03:05:37,320
Speaker 1: do this for eleven and who still come out some

4229
03:05:37,440 --> 03:05:39,600
Speaker 1: days and just look terrible. That's why I don't like golf. Now.

4230
03:05:39,640 --> 03:05:42,480
Speaker 1: I'm just like, dude, whenever if I do something like repetitive,

4231
03:05:42,480 --> 03:05:45,560
Speaker 1: because we're told as athletes, you do something ten thousand times,

4232
03:05:45,600 --> 03:05:47,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna do what you'll be great. Yes, master, you

4233
03:05:47,800 --> 03:05:50,200
Speaker 1: cannot be great doing that ten thousand times. You can

4234
03:05:50,280 --> 03:05:51,840
Speaker 1: come out look great one day and they come out

4235
03:05:51,840 --> 03:05:53,600
Speaker 1: there the next day and leg guse.

4236
03:05:53,680 --> 03:05:57,440
Speaker 4: Yeah needs that one. You just need that one. You

4237
03:05:57,480 --> 03:05:59,240
Speaker 4: see yourself? Are you gonna be fighting at some point?

4238
03:06:00,640 --> 03:06:05,120
Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not against it. This is what

4239
03:06:05,200 --> 03:06:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm not against it, but I do respect

4240
03:06:07,480 --> 03:06:09,960
Speaker 1: these guys. I've jumped in, I've jumped in training camps,

4241
03:06:10,000 --> 03:06:12,600
Speaker 1: I've sparred. I still I still spar I spared a

4242
03:06:12,600 --> 03:06:16,280
Speaker 1: couple weeks agoed Randy Contoris jym up in in Vegas.

4243
03:06:17,320 --> 03:06:18,840
Speaker 1: So I like to be around the guys. That's more

4244
03:06:18,879 --> 03:06:20,360
Speaker 1: import than I like to be around the guys the

4245
03:06:20,440 --> 03:06:23,520
Speaker 1: spar stay stay with it because I feel better discipline wise. Yeah,

4246
03:06:23,760 --> 03:06:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, like I think we get done d it's

4247
03:06:25,600 --> 03:06:27,440
Speaker 1: like we feel like bumps a little bit, like we

4248
03:06:27,480 --> 03:06:29,960
Speaker 1: don't we can't compete anymore. So I think I walk

4249
03:06:30,000 --> 03:06:31,640
Speaker 1: in some days I'm like, oh shit, I can still go,

4250
03:06:31,879 --> 03:06:35,320
Speaker 1: Like I can still do it. But the difference is

4251
03:06:35,480 --> 03:06:37,760
Speaker 1: is that like us, it's like the pros versus Jos.

4252
03:06:37,760 --> 03:06:39,520
Speaker 1: When people start talking, She's like, dude, listen, I will

4253
03:06:39,680 --> 03:06:41,520
Speaker 1: knock your head off. Right you put on a pair

4254
03:06:41,560 --> 03:06:43,760
Speaker 1: of pads and the help and I will literally knock

4255
03:06:43,800 --> 03:06:46,080
Speaker 1: your head off. And so these fighters, like they do

4256
03:06:46,240 --> 03:06:48,840
Speaker 1: this for a living, Like these guys train six days,

4257
03:06:48,879 --> 03:06:51,400
Speaker 1: seven days a week, sometime twice a day. And so

4258
03:06:51,720 --> 03:06:54,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to go down that path unless I

4259
03:06:54,480 --> 03:06:58,360
Speaker 1: was fully committed, because right now do like with lightsile sports,

4260
03:06:58,400 --> 03:07:00,680
Speaker 1: and like I'm want to plane every five days, you know,

4261
03:07:00,720 --> 03:07:02,680
Speaker 1: if I'm not meeting with a vineye old casino or

4262
03:07:02,760 --> 03:07:04,960
Speaker 1: some kind of arena, it's a sponsor. It's like a

4263
03:07:05,040 --> 03:07:08,600
Speaker 1: NonStop distribution deal. Like we got some stuff possibly in

4264
03:07:08,600 --> 03:07:10,440
Speaker 1: the works, come up to UFC Fight Pass. Yeah that

4265
03:07:10,480 --> 03:07:12,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna announce it soon too. And so these are

4266
03:07:13,080 --> 03:07:16,080
Speaker 1: this I'm doing these deals, you know. And so I'll

4267
03:07:16,120 --> 03:07:18,280
Speaker 1: get in the gym now and I'll spa and train

4268
03:07:18,400 --> 03:07:21,720
Speaker 1: when i can, right as opposed to that's what I'm doing.

4269
03:07:21,959 --> 03:07:27,879
Speaker 1: What about like a celebrity, Yeah, yeah, yeah, j Paul's

4270
03:07:27,879 --> 03:07:31,000
Speaker 1: asked for He's small, He's I think I think Jake

4271
03:07:31,120 --> 03:07:33,040
Speaker 1: is really I think Jake is really good. I've been

4272
03:07:33,120 --> 03:07:36,240
Speaker 1: saying this for like five years. I thought that Jake

4273
03:07:36,360 --> 03:07:39,320
Speaker 1: when I first seen him train and Shane Mosley had

4274
03:07:39,360 --> 03:07:43,000
Speaker 1: called me one day and I watched this in twoenty nineteen,

4275
03:07:43,320 --> 03:07:46,160
Speaker 1: and Shane said, Hey, come up to my place in

4276
03:07:46,200 --> 03:07:48,520
Speaker 1: Big Beer and watch this kid, Jake Paul train like

4277
03:07:48,600 --> 03:07:50,880
Speaker 1: he can actually go. Uh, And so I did. I

4278
03:07:51,000 --> 03:07:54,080
Speaker 1: drove up to Shane Mostley's place, and I stayed that

4279
03:07:54,200 --> 03:07:56,240
Speaker 1: week and I trained with him, and I watched Jake

4280
03:07:56,280 --> 03:07:57,680
Speaker 1: Paul work and I was like, dude, this dude is

4281
03:07:57,760 --> 03:08:00,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna be really good, like really good. He was

4282
03:08:00,440 --> 03:08:02,560
Speaker 1: running up We've been around athletes our whole life. This

4283
03:08:02,680 --> 03:08:05,760
Speaker 1: we know athlete. When we see one running up the hills, digging,

4284
03:08:06,440 --> 03:08:09,800
Speaker 1: like pushing himself, like doing stuff that the normal person.

4285
03:08:10,040 --> 03:08:12,160
Speaker 5: Does, just know you just has that drive.

4286
03:08:12,360 --> 03:08:13,080
Speaker 1: He has that drive.

4287
03:08:13,360 --> 03:08:15,640
Speaker 5: What's your stance on the Mike Tyson fight? Him and

4288
03:08:15,720 --> 03:08:16,199
Speaker 5: Mike Tyson?

4289
03:08:16,320 --> 03:08:18,840
Speaker 1: I think I think if it gets outside of the

4290
03:08:19,160 --> 03:08:21,400
Speaker 1: third round, it's all Jake. I think Jake will hurt

4291
03:08:21,480 --> 03:08:25,120
Speaker 1: him bad. Really yeah, because Mike the power never really

4292
03:08:25,320 --> 03:08:27,959
Speaker 1: you don't lose the power as much. One of those

4293
03:08:28,040 --> 03:08:30,680
Speaker 1: inside shots will clip you. You can he can knock

4294
03:08:30,760 --> 03:08:33,840
Speaker 1: Jake out still at almost sixty years old. Yeah, those

4295
03:08:33,920 --> 03:08:37,520
Speaker 1: inside punches, body punches, head movement, all that stuff. Mike

4296
03:08:37,560 --> 03:08:40,680
Speaker 1: still has one of those land It's gonna hurt Jake bad.

4297
03:08:41,200 --> 03:08:43,760
Speaker 1: After the third round. Mike is just gonna get tired.

4298
03:08:43,920 --> 03:08:47,480
Speaker 1: He can't go. I mean, his power and his stamina

4299
03:08:47,560 --> 03:08:49,640
Speaker 1: of his movement after the third round is just gonna

4300
03:08:49,680 --> 03:08:52,880
Speaker 1: tank because your body just can't at that age. It's

4301
03:08:52,920 --> 03:08:55,000
Speaker 1: the stamina of the goals. Like somebody asks me now,

4302
03:08:55,040 --> 03:08:56,760
Speaker 1: because I played, I go a lineup right now, play

4303
03:08:56,800 --> 03:08:58,800
Speaker 1: give you twelve plays. I'm not saying they'll be great,

4304
03:08:59,440 --> 03:09:01,360
Speaker 1: but I can do it. But if you ask me

4305
03:09:01,400 --> 03:09:03,280
Speaker 1: want to play twenty twenty five, I just I can't

4306
03:09:05,280 --> 03:09:05,600
Speaker 1: gonna go.

4307
03:09:07,520 --> 03:09:07,640
Speaker 4: Up.

4308
03:09:08,200 --> 03:09:09,920
Speaker 5: You can't, you know, but I was on that neck pain.

4309
03:09:10,000 --> 03:09:12,520
Speaker 5: You forgot about it for sure, you know.

4310
03:09:13,000 --> 03:09:14,880
Speaker 1: So he I think Mike is gonna look great for

4311
03:09:14,959 --> 03:09:16,959
Speaker 1: three rounds and he got a chance to clip Jake

4312
03:09:17,040 --> 03:09:19,200
Speaker 1: Paul and knock him out or at least hurt him

4313
03:09:19,280 --> 03:09:23,680
Speaker 1: enough where he's not as uh dominating on them last round.

4314
03:09:23,760 --> 03:09:25,680
Speaker 5: As a person who's boxed before. There's a bunch of

4315
03:09:25,760 --> 03:09:28,520
Speaker 5: rumors obviously that Jake Pulse fights are rigged.

4316
03:09:29,000 --> 03:09:30,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, is there any truth.

4317
03:09:30,120 --> 03:09:30,760
Speaker 5: Of that in your mind?

4318
03:09:31,200 --> 03:09:34,000
Speaker 1: This is why I don't believe that those things true,

4319
03:09:34,640 --> 03:09:37,920
Speaker 1: because if if you're caught, you're done, you hope like

4320
03:09:38,000 --> 03:09:40,879
Speaker 1: all the millions. So if you if you're caught doing

4321
03:09:41,080 --> 03:09:44,120
Speaker 1: this stuff, you're just you're done, and nobody's gonna come

4322
03:09:44,120 --> 03:09:45,880
Speaker 1: to a fight anymore. You're not gonna get pay per views,

4323
03:09:45,879 --> 03:09:48,760
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get paid, so that one risk that

4324
03:09:48,920 --> 03:09:50,640
Speaker 1: you don't know that if it does get out that

4325
03:09:50,720 --> 03:09:52,800
Speaker 1: you're rigging fights. This is why I say that. I'm

4326
03:09:52,800 --> 03:09:55,200
Speaker 1: not saying it doesn't happen. I'm just saying, with this

4327
03:09:55,280 --> 03:09:57,560
Speaker 1: amount of money and situation on the line, it's gonna

4328
03:09:57,560 --> 03:09:59,760
Speaker 1: be hard to rig because it's take one person from

4329
03:09:59,800 --> 03:10:02,600
Speaker 1: some his camp. They say, hey, I was paid such

4330
03:10:02,640 --> 03:10:04,560
Speaker 1: and such to take a dive. Right, once you do

4331
03:10:04,640 --> 03:10:06,840
Speaker 1: that and somebody find proof of that, you're done, just

4332
03:10:06,879 --> 03:10:09,320
Speaker 1: get out the sport. So it's too He's making too

4333
03:10:09,400 --> 03:10:12,240
Speaker 1: much money, has too much opportunities, including his other businesses

4334
03:10:12,280 --> 03:10:15,240
Speaker 1: and everything he promotes, to be tied to rigging fights.

4335
03:10:15,640 --> 03:10:17,800
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying that it doesn't happen. I'm just

4336
03:10:17,840 --> 03:10:19,640
Speaker 1: saying for him, it's too risky to do.

4337
03:10:20,280 --> 03:10:23,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel you, I get it. I like that response.

4338
03:10:23,560 --> 03:10:24,840
Speaker 5: I think Jake Paul's gonna see that clip. He is

4339
03:10:24,840 --> 03:10:28,240
Speaker 5: gonna really appreciate it. Yeah, you don't like that, should

4340
03:10:28,360 --> 03:10:29,200
Speaker 5: hit the tier talk.

4341
03:10:29,280 --> 03:10:31,080
Speaker 4: I'm down. I'm down to hit tier talk. You want

4342
03:10:31,080 --> 03:10:33,440
Speaker 4: to explain tear talk? Yeah, So tiar talk is we're

4343
03:10:33,440 --> 03:10:37,240
Speaker 4: gonna do best personal celebrations. You got Tier three, start

4344
03:10:37,280 --> 03:10:39,160
Speaker 4: a tier three, work your way up Tier two, tier one.

4345
03:10:39,160 --> 03:10:42,520
Speaker 4: It's basically your top three all time. You're gonna say

4346
03:10:42,600 --> 03:10:44,320
Speaker 4: what your celebration is, so it might be the lights

4347
03:10:44,360 --> 03:10:46,240
Speaker 4: out celebration. You give a little sizzle, you give a

4348
03:10:46,280 --> 03:10:49,199
Speaker 4: little feedback on why you think it belongs in that tier,

4349
03:10:49,640 --> 03:10:52,480
Speaker 4: and then that's ultimately that is tier talk. That is

4350
03:10:52,520 --> 03:10:55,120
Speaker 4: tier talk. You think, do you have to go to

4351
03:10:55,160 --> 03:10:58,120
Speaker 4: the restroom? No, I'm good, I'm going to look up.

4352
03:10:58,320 --> 03:11:00,640
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4359
03:11:19,560 --> 03:11:23,440
Speaker 5: this episode. I think I'm way outgunned in this one.

4360
03:11:25,280 --> 03:11:27,840
Speaker 5: I think my opinion, yeah, but I think my opinion is.

4361
03:11:27,840 --> 03:11:31,400
Speaker 4: Not gonna you want to start. I started off.

4362
03:11:32,640 --> 03:11:33,760
Speaker 5: I want to see his dad first.

4363
03:11:35,400 --> 03:11:37,200
Speaker 4: Oh, that was the one with a little sugar on it.

4364
03:11:37,280 --> 03:11:40,720
Speaker 4: That was Dallas whoa, yeah, whoa. I sat the second half.

4365
03:11:40,879 --> 03:11:42,600
Speaker 4: We were we were going into the playoffs. Coach, you

4366
03:11:42,640 --> 03:11:43,560
Speaker 4: need to rest my legs.

4367
03:11:45,680 --> 03:11:48,879
Speaker 1: So you exerted a little bit more energy because yeah,

4368
03:11:51,840 --> 03:11:52,760
Speaker 1: the gentleman's dad.

4369
03:11:53,120 --> 03:11:56,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, I'm.

4370
03:11:56,200 --> 03:11:57,720
Speaker 5: Gonna I just want to go up. I said, you

4371
03:11:57,760 --> 03:11:58,920
Speaker 5: know what, fuck it, dude, I'm not gonna tell you

4372
03:11:58,920 --> 03:11:59,520
Speaker 5: gus what I feel.

4373
03:11:59,640 --> 03:12:01,039
Speaker 1: I think. I think the.

4374
03:12:01,160 --> 03:12:03,840
Speaker 5: Simplicity of a celebration goes a long way with me.

4375
03:12:05,280 --> 03:12:07,280
Speaker 5: The elaborates all that I feel like gets I feel

4376
03:12:07,280 --> 03:12:10,280
Speaker 5: like gets old after a while. My Tier three is

4377
03:12:10,320 --> 03:12:13,320
Speaker 5: gonna go to the og feed me coined and started

4378
03:12:13,400 --> 03:12:16,920
Speaker 5: by the Denard Robinson Shoelace Robinson. He was actually the

4379
03:12:17,000 --> 03:12:21,640
Speaker 5: individual that started that celebration. Did it against our house state?

4380
03:12:21,720 --> 03:12:22,800
Speaker 5: Who picked it up at your leader?

4381
03:12:23,600 --> 03:12:23,720
Speaker 1: Is he?

4382
03:12:23,760 --> 03:12:26,840
Speaker 5: Hehiel Elliott, you'd be the judge my tier two.

4383
03:12:28,120 --> 03:12:29,320
Speaker 1: So just it's one every tier.

4384
03:12:29,680 --> 03:12:32,280
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, so tier three is like the bottom. Okay,

4385
03:12:32,320 --> 03:12:35,080
Speaker 5: tier two, then tier one is your favorite my tier two.

4386
03:12:36,040 --> 03:12:39,720
Speaker 5: This is gonna sound crazy, but a touchdown being scored,

4387
03:12:39,920 --> 03:12:42,760
Speaker 5: a home run being hit, you meet the other individual,

4388
03:12:43,160 --> 03:12:46,840
Speaker 5: not a whole lot of celebration, just a handshake. I

4389
03:12:47,040 --> 03:12:50,280
Speaker 5: think the handshake is it goes a long fucking way. Yeah,

4390
03:12:50,320 --> 03:12:54,520
Speaker 5: and my tier one and this might be my old

4391
03:12:54,600 --> 03:12:58,160
Speaker 5: man or everybody's old man saying, act like you've been

4392
03:12:58,200 --> 03:13:02,720
Speaker 5: there before. But when somebody rockets off a crazy play

4393
03:13:03,520 --> 03:13:06,040
Speaker 5: and they don't even act like nothing fucking happen and

4394
03:13:06,080 --> 03:13:08,880
Speaker 5: they just the walk off, that to me is the

4395
03:13:08,920 --> 03:13:11,800
Speaker 5: best celebration out there. Derrick Henry is probably the number

4396
03:13:11,800 --> 03:13:14,000
Speaker 5: one person doing that right now. I think the walk up,

4397
03:13:14,600 --> 03:13:17,880
Speaker 5: no celebration, the no selling like this dude's just been

4398
03:13:17,920 --> 03:13:18,760
Speaker 5: doing this forever.

4399
03:13:19,440 --> 03:13:21,040
Speaker 4: You're like the you like the You're like the dad

4400
03:13:21,120 --> 03:13:23,040
Speaker 4: talking about the Walter Payton's and Barry Sanders.

4401
03:13:23,200 --> 03:13:29,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, you see that now. I am a celebrator. I

4402
03:13:29,959 --> 03:13:31,840
Speaker 5: am if I was the one scoring touchdowns. You see

4403
03:13:31,879 --> 03:13:33,520
Speaker 5: me come up with something new every single week. However,

4404
03:13:33,640 --> 03:13:35,600
Speaker 5: to me, when I watch it from a distance, I

4405
03:13:35,760 --> 03:13:38,320
Speaker 5: see somebody just store a touchdown, have an insane play,

4406
03:13:38,800 --> 03:13:40,440
Speaker 5: and then the walk up, no c You're like, Yo,

4407
03:13:40,520 --> 03:13:42,360
Speaker 5: this dude just must know something that we don't know.

4408
03:13:43,040 --> 03:13:45,199
Speaker 5: And that is my tiar talk. Now, what Will didn't

4409
03:13:45,200 --> 03:13:46,680
Speaker 5: tell you is we're gonna go around the room and

4410
03:13:46,760 --> 03:13:48,560
Speaker 5: everyone's gonna give one word to say how they feel

4411
03:13:48,560 --> 03:13:49,240
Speaker 5: about your tear talk.

4412
03:13:49,280 --> 03:13:52,879
Speaker 4: We will basic, okay, basic.

4413
03:13:53,480 --> 03:13:56,279
Speaker 6: Short and sweet, hyphenated wame.

4414
03:13:58,160 --> 03:14:01,440
Speaker 5: Jack Michigan.

4415
03:14:03,360 --> 03:14:06,480
Speaker 1: That was nasty. That was nasty, was kind of boring,

4416
03:14:06,520 --> 03:14:08,920
Speaker 1: a little bit boring, born, a little bit hyphenating.

4417
03:14:09,000 --> 03:14:11,520
Speaker 5: Yeah yeahh okay, boring, a little bit hyphenated born.

4418
03:14:12,240 --> 03:14:14,440
Speaker 4: That should be a quote graphic for Coop.

4419
03:14:14,600 --> 03:14:14,800
Speaker 5: Yeah.

4420
03:14:16,600 --> 03:14:16,720
Speaker 1: Uh.

4421
03:14:17,160 --> 03:14:22,240
Speaker 4: My Tier three is going to go to Chris Johnson's

4422
03:14:22,320 --> 03:14:25,280
Speaker 4: touchdown celebration. I felt like I remember being in Nebraskan

4423
03:14:25,400 --> 03:14:28,200
Speaker 4: guys or trying to mimic his celebration. What does he

4424
03:14:28,280 --> 03:14:34,360
Speaker 4: call it? Chop City? Yeah? Bro, when when Chris Johnson

4425
03:14:34,400 --> 03:14:36,879
Speaker 4: was scoring touchdowns, everybody was glued to the TV. People

4426
03:14:36,920 --> 03:14:39,760
Speaker 4: are trying to mimic it. My Tier two is going

4427
03:14:39,879 --> 03:14:42,200
Speaker 4: to be He had talked about it earlier the Ray

4428
03:14:42,320 --> 03:14:45,840
Speaker 4: Lewis pregame ritual coming out of the Tunnel. I mean,

4429
03:14:46,240 --> 03:14:50,400
Speaker 4: just iconic, especially if you're a linebacker, like watching him

4430
03:14:50,440 --> 03:14:53,680
Speaker 4: do that captivate an entire stadium to the point where

4431
03:14:53,720 --> 03:14:55,720
Speaker 4: the man can still go out and do it in

4432
03:14:55,760 --> 03:14:59,039
Speaker 4: the stadium goes crazy. That's legacy. That's what Ray Lewis

4433
03:14:59,120 --> 03:15:02,360
Speaker 4: is about. My Tier one is gonna go. I'm going

4434
03:15:02,440 --> 03:15:06,560
Speaker 4: to enter in the the Wrestling World w W, f

4435
03:15:06,800 --> 03:15:10,920
Speaker 4: w W, the D Generation X the Sucket sign like

4436
03:15:11,080 --> 03:15:14,480
Speaker 4: that was taking the world by storm bro and that

4437
03:15:14,760 --> 03:15:18,120
Speaker 4: that is my tier one where it changed culture and

4438
03:15:18,240 --> 03:15:19,640
Speaker 4: that is D Generation X.

4439
03:15:21,000 --> 03:15:21,200
Speaker 1: Dude.

4440
03:15:21,240 --> 03:15:21,720
Speaker 4: That that was.

4441
03:15:21,879 --> 03:15:25,040
Speaker 1: That was like an era like that that was at era. Yeah,

4442
03:15:25,120 --> 03:15:27,320
Speaker 1: that was that was the attitude era. Dude, Like I

4443
03:15:27,360 --> 03:15:28,880
Speaker 1: don't get I don't give you who you were. I

4444
03:15:28,959 --> 03:15:32,320
Speaker 1: saw like Grandma's Grandma's are doing it.

4445
03:15:32,720 --> 03:15:38,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my tier talk good. You hated that, hated

4446
03:15:38,879 --> 03:15:40,600
Speaker 4: it because you literally you're just playing. I was like,

4447
03:15:40,800 --> 03:15:43,920
Speaker 4: what am I doing? They said, no. Celebration was the

4448
03:15:44,040 --> 03:15:44,920
Speaker 4: tier one.

4449
03:15:44,840 --> 03:15:53,640
Speaker 1: That that was. That was pretty bad about groundbreaking, youthful

4450
03:15:56,280 --> 03:15:58,240
Speaker 1: attitude hyped.

4451
03:16:00,080 --> 03:16:04,000
Speaker 4: Let's get from when you go, man, So yeah, you

4452
03:16:04,080 --> 03:16:04,800
Speaker 4: have the floor.

4453
03:16:06,040 --> 03:16:09,200
Speaker 1: Twer three, I'm gonna go. Uh, I'm gonna go to

4454
03:16:09,280 --> 03:16:14,640
Speaker 1: the Kimbay, Okay, yeah, I got I had time to think,

4455
03:16:14,680 --> 03:16:17,680
Speaker 1: so I'll come up strong. Yeah, I'm gonna go to

4456
03:16:17,760 --> 03:16:23,240
Speaker 1: Kimbay with the wagon. I'm gonna go. Ray lewis what

4457
03:16:23,280 --> 03:16:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick somebody because I would pick he got

4458
03:16:25,040 --> 03:16:29,400
Speaker 1: ray Let's go. Uh this is a sleeper. But who

4459
03:16:29,440 --> 03:16:32,520
Speaker 1: I like a lot is Jared Allen the rope.

4460
03:16:32,920 --> 03:16:35,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, bro right, that's a good one.

4461
03:16:36,959 --> 03:16:41,080
Speaker 1: Okay, you gotta be all football, any sport. I went,

4462
03:16:41,240 --> 03:16:43,240
Speaker 1: w W, I'm gonna go Ronaldo?

4463
03:16:44,200 --> 03:16:46,880
Speaker 4: What is Ronaldo? Dude? I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm not

4464
03:16:47,040 --> 03:16:57,480
Speaker 4: a jumping down Yeah all right, cultured, yeah, solid, elite.

4465
03:16:57,920 --> 03:17:05,400
Speaker 7: Unrealal tear.

4466
03:17:07,720 --> 03:17:10,440
Speaker 4: Hey but yours? I mean, come on.

4467
03:17:10,560 --> 03:17:14,120
Speaker 1: Now, you know, so the first time I when I

4468
03:17:14,200 --> 03:17:17,400
Speaker 1: did that, when that hit against Georgia Tech, my coach

4469
03:17:17,480 --> 03:17:20,640
Speaker 1: yanked me out the game. He pulled me out, and

4470
03:17:20,840 --> 03:17:23,280
Speaker 1: so I got the light switched from you know, I'm

4471
03:17:23,320 --> 03:17:26,520
Speaker 1: pretending to do turning the light switch on and off.

4472
03:17:27,080 --> 03:17:29,360
Speaker 1: But at the time I just pointed at it, and

4473
03:17:29,480 --> 03:17:33,080
Speaker 1: the crowd got louder, and I just, out of nowhere,

4474
03:17:33,120 --> 03:17:33,920
Speaker 1: I started jumping.

4475
03:17:34,520 --> 03:17:36,960
Speaker 4: I didn't plan it, yeah, just the body taking on.

4476
03:17:37,120 --> 03:17:38,879
Speaker 4: It's just this isn't that first game or.

4477
03:17:38,879 --> 03:17:40,320
Speaker 1: This this is the first game.

4478
03:17:40,360 --> 03:17:40,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

4479
03:17:40,640 --> 03:17:43,000
Speaker 1: This was like when I came off, when I came

4480
03:17:43,040 --> 03:17:44,840
Speaker 1: off in the video to the show. When it came off,

4481
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Speaker 1: I was jumping up and down and doing it. My

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03:17:46,800 --> 03:17:49,840
Speaker 1: coach yanked me out the game. Roth Frigia did, and

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03:17:49,920 --> 03:17:51,600
Speaker 1: he said, if you ever do that, ship again. You'll

4484
03:17:51,680 --> 03:17:54,520
Speaker 1: never play here again this week told me. So I

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03:17:54,640 --> 03:17:55,959
Speaker 1: go from up here because I had a big ass

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03:17:56,040 --> 03:18:00,760
Speaker 1: hit on ESPN, like everybody's watching crowds. So I went

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03:18:00,800 --> 03:18:03,400
Speaker 1: from here to like here in two seconds, and I

4488
03:18:03,440 --> 03:18:07,040
Speaker 1: got on the sideline and my defensive coordinator coach Blackney,

4489
03:18:07,400 --> 03:18:08,640
Speaker 1: and everybody's like, what was that?

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Speaker 4: What was that dance?

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03:18:09,800 --> 03:18:12,400
Speaker 1: You know? So just how people switch, It's called us

4492
03:18:12,400 --> 03:18:14,320
Speaker 1: the lights out dance. I just threw that ship out there.

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03:18:14,360 --> 03:18:17,040
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was gonna stick, and it stuck.

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03:18:17,520 --> 03:18:20,120
Speaker 1: And that's how I just kept what made you do it?

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03:18:20,200 --> 03:18:21,760
Speaker 4: Again? Like was it your de corner?

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Speaker 1: I just pointed at it after that because I got

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03:18:25,959 --> 03:18:28,840
Speaker 1: a piling Yeah, you know, I got the game. But

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03:18:28,959 --> 03:18:30,959
Speaker 1: when I got into the league, it was like all

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03:18:31,040 --> 03:18:35,240
Speaker 1: bets are off, like you are ship man, I went, dude,

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03:18:35,280 --> 03:18:37,520
Speaker 1: it was even now, Dude. I'll go like in the

4501
03:18:37,600 --> 03:18:40,000
Speaker 1: country and I'll see people doing shit across the street.

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Speaker 1: It's the craziest thing ever. I was in Miami probably

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Speaker 1: about six months ago, and I was going to what's

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03:18:48,840 --> 03:18:52,120
Speaker 1: the Stag Joint down in the Prime Prime. It was

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03:18:52,160 --> 03:18:54,720
Speaker 1: a group of people like six, like five or six

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03:18:54,760 --> 03:18:56,760
Speaker 1: people in the car like pulled up on a curve

4507
03:18:57,560 --> 03:18:59,480
Speaker 1: almost so I'm thinking, I'm like about to get robbed

4508
03:18:59,560 --> 03:19:01,160
Speaker 1: or some ship. I'm like, what is going on? They

4509
03:19:01,360 --> 03:19:03,600
Speaker 1: like literally drove up in the curve and they one

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03:19:03,640 --> 03:19:05,320
Speaker 1: guy jumped out and the other guy stuck their arm

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03:19:05,400 --> 03:19:06,280
Speaker 1: out the windows doing this.

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Speaker 5: Let's fucking go.

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Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, that was so not just I

4514
03:19:09,920 --> 03:19:12,320
Speaker 1: was bending over broke because I couldn't even stand up,

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03:19:12,360 --> 03:19:14,080
Speaker 1: and I was laughing my ass off, and I was

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03:19:14,160 --> 03:19:17,120
Speaker 1: like pouring down tears. But it's cool man to suit

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03:19:17,200 --> 03:19:18,920
Speaker 1: people people still doing that.

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03:19:19,280 --> 03:19:21,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, you probably had a run. It probably still happens

4519
03:19:21,520 --> 03:19:25,320
Speaker 4: where you got. Halloween just happened where the mohawk was going.

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Speaker 2: That.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's fucking awesome.

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Speaker 4: Man, got more questions, dude, this has been all time,

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03:19:31,920 --> 03:19:33,840
Speaker 4: Like when you were when you were doing it, I

4524
03:19:33,920 --> 03:19:35,640
Speaker 4: was in high school, I was in college, like you

4525
03:19:35,840 --> 03:19:38,360
Speaker 4: were the fucking man bro, and it was fun to

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03:19:38,440 --> 03:19:40,720
Speaker 4: watch you then. And it's crazy to think now at

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Speaker 4: thirty five years old, I have a podcast and you

4528
03:19:42,520 --> 03:19:43,240
Speaker 4: were sitting on the bus.

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Speaker 1: No, that's all, thank you. I appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: That's you know, keep dude, I tell anybody. And obviously

4532
03:19:48,120 --> 03:19:51,400
Speaker 1: launching the streaming platform. People don't know the difficulty of

4533
03:19:51,520 --> 03:19:54,480
Speaker 1: launching your own ship, you know. So it's a lot

4534
03:19:54,520 --> 03:19:56,920
Speaker 1: of work behind the scenes and people see it, you know,

4535
03:19:57,040 --> 03:19:59,200
Speaker 1: but they don't know what all goes into it. And

4536
03:19:59,360 --> 03:20:01,840
Speaker 1: it's those those days you're trying to figure shit out

4537
03:20:01,959 --> 03:20:03,720
Speaker 1: is this working? Is that not working? And you kind

4538
03:20:03,760 --> 03:20:06,240
Speaker 1: of on your own in a way, and it's a

4539
03:20:06,320 --> 03:20:08,760
Speaker 1: big risk. You know, I launched, I launched my damn

4540
03:20:08,760 --> 03:20:11,880
Speaker 1: streaming service. I was at full bo getting six figure checks,

4541
03:20:12,080 --> 03:20:14,760
Speaker 1: sex a fight, you know, and so I finally was

4542
03:20:14,840 --> 03:20:17,440
Speaker 1: just like fuck it, you know, I can do this

4543
03:20:17,480 --> 03:20:20,680
Speaker 1: shit on my own. Just jump out there and do it.

4544
03:20:21,240 --> 03:20:23,480
Speaker 1: And so people don't understand the work that's you know,

4545
03:20:23,600 --> 03:20:26,680
Speaker 1: kind of required into doing this, the sleepless nights, like

4546
03:20:27,120 --> 03:20:28,440
Speaker 1: we're doing it right, or we got to put some

4547
03:20:28,520 --> 03:20:31,160
Speaker 1: more money here with like there's a lot of figuring

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03:20:31,200 --> 03:20:33,440
Speaker 1: out to do. And you know, I always say this, man,

4549
03:20:33,520 --> 03:20:38,640
Speaker 1: people are jealous or envious of the results, but they're

4550
03:20:38,720 --> 03:20:42,480
Speaker 1: never jealous of the work. They're never you know, jealous

4551
03:20:42,480 --> 03:20:45,320
Speaker 1: of the bar, you know what I'm saying. And people

4552
03:20:45,400 --> 03:20:47,440
Speaker 1: are just jealous or they hating them, Like, man, you

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03:20:47,600 --> 03:20:50,160
Speaker 1: you're hating But if you knew what I had to

4554
03:20:50,240 --> 03:20:52,440
Speaker 1: do to do this shit. You know, you guys, go

4555
03:20:52,520 --> 03:20:55,640
Speaker 1: and get your own facility, your on you know everything.

4556
03:20:56,560 --> 03:20:59,280
Speaker 1: If you you're jealous of or or hating or whatever

4557
03:20:59,320 --> 03:21:01,560
Speaker 1: the case is, that you want that, but you don't

4558
03:21:01,560 --> 03:21:04,000
Speaker 1: want that, you don't want that work, you know what

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03:21:04,040 --> 03:21:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So yeah, kudos, y'allo man, and congrats. And

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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of the show. If you look

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03:21:08,800 --> 03:21:11,360
Speaker 1: back at like the twenty the last twenty shows, y'all,

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03:21:11,400 --> 03:21:12,480
Speaker 1: I've liked everything, you know.

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Speaker 4: Let's fucking we can put the old Instagram comment to

4564
03:21:16,640 --> 03:21:17,360
Speaker 4: bed with Vernon.

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03:21:18,000 --> 03:21:22,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, full circle, no doubt, man, Thanks man.

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03:21:23,400 --> 03:21:29,360
Speaker 4: Like subscribe, big hugs, tiny kisses. Let's get a photo. Yeah, hey,

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03:21:29,440 --> 03:21:30,039
Speaker 4: that was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: Appreciate