WEBVTT - Off to the Drone Races

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by Toyota Let's Go Places. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Forward Thinking. Hey there, and welcome to Forward Thinking, the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast that looks at the future and says, come fly

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<v Speaker 1>with me, let's fly, let's fly away. I'm Jonathan Strickland,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm La, and I'm Joe McCormick. Today we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about one specific sliver of the future of sports

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<v Speaker 1>right specifically, the kinds of sports that don't involve moving

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<v Speaker 1>your body a whole lot. My favorite kind the less

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<v Speaker 1>moving of my body, the happier, the more competitive I

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<v Speaker 1>can think. Actually, I am a champion at not moving

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<v Speaker 1>table hockey that you're pretty good at table I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good at I'm actually pretty good at table tennis. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty good at that. If I weren't a very

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<v Speaker 1>small girl, I would be really good at those like

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<v Speaker 1>Ninja Warrior course things. Yeah. We actually you have you

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<v Speaker 1>been to the course here in Atlanta. I'm like a

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<v Speaker 1>little spider. I can go right up those walls. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kinda we have a we have a a Ninja

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<v Speaker 1>Ninja Warrior style um training ground here in Atlanta. Playground

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<v Speaker 1>like adult playground, yeah, kind of like kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>one of those adult sized obstacle course type deals. So

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<v Speaker 1>in the past week, we've talked about how different, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>advancing technologies can change sports that exist today, like making

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<v Speaker 1>them safer, maybe having a football technology that would make

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<v Speaker 1>it less likely for you to get gravely injured, or

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<v Speaker 1>even technologies that could boost human capabilities, which bring in

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<v Speaker 1>the question of fairness and what is human achievement in

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of world. Replace my bones with with adamantium.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's not what we're gonna look at today. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to look at things that have not been

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<v Speaker 1>considered as sports in the past, but are on the

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<v Speaker 1>verge of becoming perhaps even a major sport in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, an example of this in the past might

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<v Speaker 1>be just the standard robot battles, right, something that definitely

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<v Speaker 1>got some coverage. Uh, there are several TV shows that

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<v Speaker 1>were all about robot wars, and some of them were

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<v Speaker 1>more about pitting various builders against each other. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>them were let's put your robot against the house robots

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<v Speaker 1>and this sort of, uh, this obstacle course and see

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<v Speaker 1>if you can get through that kind of thing. We're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at sort of an extension of that today. We're

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<v Speaker 1>specifically going to look at drone races, but before we

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<v Speaker 1>do that, let's at least talk about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>other stuff we've we've covered in the Realm of drones

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<v Speaker 1>because we mentioned it once or twice, yes, previously on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast, we talked about delivery drones. In December, it's

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<v Speaker 1>called droning. On other related listening, Jonathan and I did

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<v Speaker 1>a tech Stuff episode that was the history of drones

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<v Speaker 1>and the modern day commercial and military implications of the technology.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a pretty full episode. That one came out

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<v Speaker 1>in October and is called The Big Deal About Drones.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you would like a review of drone technology

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, then then go check those episodes out. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're specifically talking about drones that are under human control today, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not talking about autonomous drones that team's program to

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<v Speaker 1>go through an obstacle course. This is a human pilot

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<v Speaker 1>that is depending on the type, it may even be

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<v Speaker 1>more than one human pilot, although the all the ones

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at was a single person controlling the

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<v Speaker 1>in real time, controlling a drone through of course exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So that kind of leads us to what is drone racing.

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<v Speaker 1>Typically it does involve a pilot trying to get the

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<v Speaker 1>best time when navigating a flying drone through a complicated

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<v Speaker 1>course as quickly as they possibly can. They may have

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<v Speaker 1>to race against other pilots at the same time, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's not always just a time trial like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>see if you can run this distance the fastest kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. Sometimes it's a race race where you can

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<v Speaker 1>have collisions and stuff that will impact you'll make it

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<v Speaker 1>more fun. Yeah, well, the banana peels are air banana peels.

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<v Speaker 1>That red shell or maybe it's the blue shells. The

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<v Speaker 1>blue shells, the one that's the seeking one that goes

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<v Speaker 1>after the person in first place at any rate, that's correct. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my Nintendo knowledge is that hasn't completely left me. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's it is. Uh. It is one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>where it makes it more exciting, both for the pilots

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<v Speaker 1>and for spectators. Right, the possibility that that two pilots

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna have to duke it out. There could be

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<v Speaker 1>a collision that could that could change the course of

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<v Speaker 1>the race, not the physical course, but the outcome. Depending

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<v Speaker 1>upon the style of the race, pilots may all be

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<v Speaker 1>required to use the same equipment. This is not the

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<v Speaker 1>case in all of them, but there are somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>order to really test the skills of the pilot, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>has to use the exact same style of drone, and

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<v Speaker 1>in that way, it's incredibly similar to something like NASCAR,

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<v Speaker 1>where the rules governing how your car can be designed

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<v Speaker 1>are so strict that there can be pages of rules

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<v Speaker 1>on something just as simple as tires, like they want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that a person's win or loss is

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<v Speaker 1>more due to their capability as a driver as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to the superiority of the machine they are in, which

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<v Speaker 1>is funny because if you go back and you watch

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<v Speaker 1>all those old movies where people are drag racing, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like they're always talking about the car. They're comparing

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<v Speaker 1>their cars. My car is better than your car. Oh yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see you on the drag racing strip. Well, drag

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<v Speaker 1>racing is a little different from NASCAR racing, but I

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<v Speaker 1>see what you're saying. Yeah, there are actual drone races

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<v Speaker 1>that are similar to those drag races. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>doubt they're racing for pink slips, but they actually allow

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<v Speaker 1>you to build and modify your own drone and race

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<v Speaker 1>it against other people's drones, so you might be using

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<v Speaker 1>very different UH layouts, designs, perhaps different motors um and

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<v Speaker 1>so therefore it really comes down to not just the

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<v Speaker 1>skill of the pilot but also the capabilities of the

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<v Speaker 1>machine itself, so you have both kinds. It just depends

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<v Speaker 1>upon what the race rules state is allowed. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>it's one where everyone gets the same sort of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't bring your own drone there. You are issued

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<v Speaker 1>one UH usually one per race. As it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>um an agility is really important in these right because

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're often are flying the drone under, over or

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<v Speaker 1>through obstacles. Because you're flying a drone, the race course

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<v Speaker 1>can be three dimensional. It's not just a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>out and back or a loop around. It might involve

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<v Speaker 1>having to increase your elevation or decrease it. It may

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<v Speaker 1>involve going through an area where you can't physically see

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<v Speaker 1>where the drone is. In those races, typically they are

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<v Speaker 1>first person view or FPV races, you rely upon a

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<v Speaker 1>video feed from the drone itself. The pilot does right, Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the spectators just watch what's going on, but the pilot

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<v Speaker 1>would be relying upon a camera mounted on the drone,

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<v Speaker 1>and the pilot would be wearing a headset that would

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<v Speaker 1>get the video feed from his or her drone and

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<v Speaker 1>from their perspective, it would be like sitting in the

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<v Speaker 1>cockpit of of a jet or some other flying device,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you would be flying through the course. So

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be able to recognize obstacles and make

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<v Speaker 1>decisions very very quickly in that case as part of

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<v Speaker 1>the skill. Uh. And it's incredible if you watch videos

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<v Speaker 1>from the various FPV style races and you get to

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<v Speaker 1>see what the pilots see. I can't. My brain does

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<v Speaker 1>not work that fast. My my fingers definitely couldn't react

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<v Speaker 1>fast enough. I would be the guy ramming the drone

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<v Speaker 1>into the side of the wall over and over again

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<v Speaker 1>until it finally couldn't fly anymore. Sure, I mean, but

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<v Speaker 1>but think about think about the first time that you

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<v Speaker 1>saw someone else playing like Castle Wolfenstein, and how I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>did did you have the same reaction? I know I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was, I was like, it is physically impossible

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<v Speaker 1>for me to control a video game that does that thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I'm like, I'm old enough that I was

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<v Speaker 1>the first person to see that I saw play Castle Wolfenstein.

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<v Speaker 1>But I get what you're saying. Because I've definitely seen

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<v Speaker 1>people who are far better that I than I am

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<v Speaker 1>at various twitch based type of gaming, and and it

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<v Speaker 1>is it's like there are different species. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even begin to imagine the amount of time

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated to that, to to develop that sort of skill. Um. So,

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<v Speaker 1>the that's a specific type of drone racing. Not all

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<v Speaker 1>drone racing is first person view racing, but a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it is, especially today. Um And some organizations, like

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<v Speaker 1>the Drone Racing League have even gone so far as

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<v Speaker 1>to set up specific rules and points systems to award

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<v Speaker 1>pilots and give them a score at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>each race, to allow for a kind of a league

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<v Speaker 1>based competition, right, so that you can have various types

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<v Speaker 1>of uh, you know, qualifying rounds and semifinals, that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. And we'll talk more about that's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later, but first let's talk about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>the earliest drone races out there. And when we say early,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like this dates that far back. The drone

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<v Speaker 1>racing scene is pretty young. Yeah, because because the commercialization

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<v Speaker 1>of drones is pretty young. Yeah, I remember seeing I

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<v Speaker 1>think the first one I ever saw it was maybe

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand seven or two thousand eight, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a parrot drone at CS and I was really impressed

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<v Speaker 1>by it. But since then we've really seen it get

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<v Speaker 1>uh embraced by a hobbyist market and then start to

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<v Speaker 1>blossom out where it's no longer just a a bleeding

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<v Speaker 1>edge kind of thing like the early adopters have had

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<v Speaker 1>their hands on it for a while. Now we're starting

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<v Speaker 1>to see a lot more people get interested in this

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<v Speaker 1>particular type of technology. So let's talk about the first

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<v Speaker 1>national drone racing competition in the United States. Well, this

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<v Speaker 1>was actually held just last summer. The very first national

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<v Speaker 1>one was held in Sacramento at the California State Fair

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<v Speaker 1>on July uh and it was that it was the

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<v Speaker 1>very first national drone racing competition and the races took

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<v Speaker 1>place on a soccer field. The prize money for winners

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<v Speaker 1>to dollars, so there isn't some funds for this. People

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<v Speaker 1>are interested and they had lots of sponsors. I went

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<v Speaker 1>to their website as tons of logos and corporate insignias,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure the hydro logo was in there somewhere probably,

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<v Speaker 1>And you can watch some of these races in video

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<v Speaker 1>forum online. The races that I saw attended to be

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<v Speaker 1>sort of what we were talking about earlier, the twisting

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<v Speaker 1>tracks with obstacles, kind of like a Mario Kart track. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>um and there were a hundred and twenty pilots going

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<v Speaker 1>into the competition. According to some news reports, they had

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<v Speaker 1>to put netting up around the soccer field to reduce

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<v Speaker 1>the risk of a runaway drone maiming a spectator, right, yeah. Typically, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things you can get on a drone

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<v Speaker 1>are the little the propeller guards. It's a circle that

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<v Speaker 1>protects from that sort of thing. But obviously, if you're racing,

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<v Speaker 1>you might want to reduce any weight on your so

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, let's get rid of those and turn this

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<v Speaker 1>into a face slicing machine. Measures off. Yeah, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>when you want to have these, uh, these sort of

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<v Speaker 1>barriers up just in the case that either maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>radio signals lost. It might not even be the fault

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<v Speaker 1>of the pilot, right It could be a technical failure

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<v Speaker 1>that would cause a problem, or it could be especially

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<v Speaker 1>if it's a first person view race that the pilot

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<v Speaker 1>has misidentified where the next marker for the course happens

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<v Speaker 1>to be right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that if you

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<v Speaker 1>have taken the safety measures off, you also do not

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<v Speaker 1>take faces off. And so the winner of the competition

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<v Speaker 1>was actually an Australian, which I thought was funny because

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<v Speaker 1>it was the first U S national championship and yet

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<v Speaker 1>it had international participation. So the winner was Chad and

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<v Speaker 1>no whack of Brisbane, Australia and uh, and they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna hold another one this year. I believe it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in New York, right yeah, uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I was reading a few articles about this and

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<v Speaker 1>there was one I came across that was really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a CBS News article and they talked to

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<v Speaker 1>one of the competitors from the competition named Zoe Stumbog,

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<v Speaker 1>and she she gave some quotes that I thought were interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know what y'all think about this. So

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<v Speaker 1>she used to be in into motorcycles, and she said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>motorcycles were my thing. It was everything to me, like

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<v Speaker 1>being able to ride. It gave me this whole experience

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<v Speaker 1>of being outside my body into the world and living.

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<v Speaker 1>I really couldn't live without it. But then she had

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<v Speaker 1>a medical issue that restricted her to bed for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, a period of months, and it prevented her

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<v Speaker 1>from riding motorcycles anymore. And so she reported that she

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<v Speaker 1>got very depressed for a while until one day she

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<v Speaker 1>went to a hobby shop and discovered a little micro

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<v Speaker 1>quad copter and she immediately fell in love with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And she has been doing drone racing. So you can

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<v Speaker 1>actually go to her YouTube channel and check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about a couple of those videos

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<v Speaker 1>in a minute, but she went on to say that,

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<v Speaker 1>um that she said quote, once I put the camera

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<v Speaker 1>on it, you start doing the first person view, and

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<v Speaker 1>it really was like riding around on a motorcycle. You

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<v Speaker 1>were living in the world around you and no longer

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<v Speaker 1>in a bed sitting down feeling hurt, depressed or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and nothing else mattered when you had the goggles on. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, I thought that was interesting, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I thought of drone racing as a kind of like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a video game, like sitting back and passive.

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<v Speaker 1>But I I guess that's probably not the case. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I I can totally get what she's saying because I

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<v Speaker 1>think back to when I was a kid and I

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<v Speaker 1>used to ride my bike a lot, and I lived

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<v Speaker 1>on a really you know, it wasn't a super steep hill,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was a very tall hill, and once you

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<v Speaker 1>started getting up to speed, like you sort of do

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<v Speaker 1>have almost an out of body experience like it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the closest you feel that you're going to get to flying,

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<v Speaker 1>short of being on a hang glider or or jumping

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<v Speaker 1>out of a plane or something like that. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've talked before about virtual reality experiences that are

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<v Speaker 1>so immersive as to make you feel as if you're

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<v Speaker 1>actually in the environment that's being simulated. Right, I hesitate

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<v Speaker 1>to call drone racing type of virtual reality. It often

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<v Speaker 1>uses the same equipment virtual reality uses. But because the

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<v Speaker 1>actual environment is not virtual, and I get really picky

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<v Speaker 1>about such things, I don't call it there. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>virtual reality. It's remote reality. Yes, I would agree entirely

0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:40.520
<v Speaker 1>with that that um that moniker. I would say it's

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<v Speaker 1>remote reality, and but it's it still has that feeling

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<v Speaker 1>of immersion. In fact, people say, like when you wear

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<v Speaker 1>those FPV glasses and you're piloting, it feels like you're

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<v Speaker 1>in one of those I would not be surprised to

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<v Speaker 1>see video of pilots working these and watching them kind

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<v Speaker 1>of duck the heads as they crash. I'm sure you flinch. Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah I can. I can just because I just think

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<v Speaker 1>about like passive experiences, like watching a movie and occasionally

0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of leaning whenever you know, like you're really into

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<v Speaker 1>the film and there's maybe like a race sequence or yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>same sort of thing, except you're in control, which gives

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<v Speaker 1>that immersion feeling a much greater sense in the person. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you feel more immersed because you what you do matters, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So and and I even got some of the sense

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<v Speaker 1>just from watching some of these videos. I mentioned that

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<v Speaker 1>Zoe Stumball has a YouTube channel and it's called Zoe

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<v Speaker 1>Full Throttle. I went and checked it out. Uh, And

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<v Speaker 1>there's some great nerdy in jokes in some of the videos,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of it's just it's just first person

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<v Speaker 1>video of the drones point of view as it's flying around,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can really get into it. I watched one

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<v Speaker 1>that was set to the Legend of Zelda theme music.

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<v Speaker 1>But then there was another really cool one that was

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<v Speaker 1>a first person view of a drone flight zooming in

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<v Speaker 1>between tall trees in this forest like setting, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was set to Star Wars music, and then I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, Oh, I get it. They're recreating the

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<v Speaker 1>view of the speeder bike race from Return of the

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<v Speaker 1>Jedi in the forest Moon of Indoor, when there's zooming

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<v Speaker 1>around in between the trees, and it works pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching this video and I was like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm there. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty awesome. And so the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to use drones in that kind of entertaining way, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we we've seen some interesting applications of that already,

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<v Speaker 1>but then incorporating that into the race experience, you can

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<v Speaker 1>see how this could really lead to some potentially amazing

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<v Speaker 1>immersive forms of entertainment. Well yeah, I mean one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things I was reading about and thinking about was

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of spectators of drone races not just watching

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<v Speaker 1>the drones all zoom around, right, having on their own

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<v Speaker 1>FPV goggles on. Theyre not controlling the drones, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you pick your drone and you see from

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<v Speaker 1>its point of view. Yeah, especially if we got some

0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.800
<v Speaker 1>some some fancier equipment in there's some three six degree cameras,

0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:09.800
<v Speaker 1>some VR goggles involved, Like that sounds a really motion

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<v Speaker 1>sick potentially, but but be like so much fun. What's

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<v Speaker 1>a good race without a little bit of vomiting? That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I always say. It takes me back, so Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The interesting thing is we when we went into the

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<v Speaker 1>research for this knowing that this is a relatively young sport, right,

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<v Speaker 1>a young activity that hobbyists have been doing for a

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<v Speaker 1>few years. But we're starting to see ramp up into

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<v Speaker 1>something that's that's getting more um mainstream media attention. Over

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<v Speaker 1>the last maybe six months or so. We had a

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<v Speaker 1>question in our notes, just are there any official organizations

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<v Speaker 1>for drone racing? Boy? Howdy? Are there? There are so

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<v Speaker 1>many that you know. Part of that is because it's

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<v Speaker 1>so young that they're probably gonna be one or two

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<v Speaker 1>that ultimately draw the most membership, But there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot that are out there. Some of them are very

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<v Speaker 1>regionally based, so there may be an official local chapter

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<v Speaker 1>of some of these in your area. UM, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States, one place to go check is

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<v Speaker 1>the u s d R, a site that stands for

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<v Speaker 1>US Drone Racing Association and its mission is to help

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<v Speaker 1>bring the new sport of remote controlled multi rotor fpv

0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.960
<v Speaker 1>U a vs into the mainstream they're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it like that. Yeah. I was just about to say,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a hint, guys, let's cut down some of the

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<v Speaker 1>track and yeah, yeah, you a V. If you've never

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<v Speaker 1>heard that term before, is is unmanned aerial vehicle. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So as part of that, their association works to create

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<v Speaker 1>guidelines for races so that they can make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>any competitions that are set up are fair, that they

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<v Speaker 1>have appropriate safety considerations in place, that sort of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in order to allow this this activity to thrive. Like

0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.400
<v Speaker 1>what that's what that organization is dedicated to. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to see, uh, someone put together a shoddy event

0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:10.760
<v Speaker 1>and then it ends up hurting the blossoming sport as

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<v Speaker 1>a result. They also provide resources to people who are

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<v Speaker 1>interested in finding groups that race drones. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States, it's a great resource. The Drone

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<v Speaker 1>Racing League is another organization. It's a it's a relatively

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<v Speaker 1>young one, relatively new one. Uh. They announced their first

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<v Speaker 1>competitive season just back in January, so they have not

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<v Speaker 1>been around for very long at all. Yeah, it's April.

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<v Speaker 1>We're recording this. Yeah, so they hope to combine video

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<v Speaker 1>from from the drones themselves and from the third person

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<v Speaker 1>perspective videos which are actually often captured by other drones

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<v Speaker 1>that are carrying like four K cameras. So you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the drones that are that the pilots are using, they

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<v Speaker 1>have an HD camera mounted on them, and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the drones that are just flying around the course that

0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.720
<v Speaker 1>can get you know, good shot of the racers zooming

0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:04.600
<v Speaker 1>by them, um like you do in sports. That's a

0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.960
<v Speaker 1>pretty common method for getting footage in in UH football

0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.880
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like. Sure. Yeah, And what's interesting to me

0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:13.600
<v Speaker 1>is that the HD video that these drones are capturing,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the video that's going back to the goggles

0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:18.800
<v Speaker 1>that the pilots are wearing them. The reason for that

0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:22.679
<v Speaker 1>is HD takes up a lot of bandwidth. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that would be a communication problem with then

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<v Speaker 1>a single space, especially if you've got more than one

0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:29.479
<v Speaker 1>drone going at the same time, right, and even if

0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:31.960
<v Speaker 1>they're all working on different channels, it's just such a

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<v Speaker 1>huge demand to be able to transmit that amount of

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<v Speaker 1>information that quickly. What would tend to happen is you

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<v Speaker 1>would have some latency or lag, and that means that

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<v Speaker 1>the pilots would not be able to control the vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>very well. If you've ever played a video game that

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<v Speaker 1>had really bad latency issues, you know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Where you know, you see the jump coming up, and

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<v Speaker 1>you press the button when your character is at the

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<v Speaker 1>appropriate spot, but your character just keeps running and then

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<v Speaker 1>runs off the edge of the cliff because the game

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<v Speaker 1>was several steps ahead of where you were seeing it,

0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.800
<v Speaker 1>and you can see is your character falls to its

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<v Speaker 1>untimely death. It's like a kind of flirp in the

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<v Speaker 1>air when the jump button finally goes through. Now, imagine

0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:16.360
<v Speaker 1>that that happens to you. When you're controlling a drone

0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:19.040
<v Speaker 1>moving at more than a hundred miles per hour and

0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:21.960
<v Speaker 1>there's a narrow hallway coming up that you have to

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<v Speaker 1>maneuver into. You're pretty much gonna end up with a

0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:28.639
<v Speaker 1>bunch of drone pieces on the ground because you cannot

0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:32.320
<v Speaker 1>physically move anticipated at the right time. The lag will

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<v Speaker 1>totally mess you up. Plus, I don't know if you

0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:39.200
<v Speaker 1>guys have ever experienced latency in a VR headset, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a one way ticket. The Pukeville as gonna get you

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<v Speaker 1>sicker than a dog so quickly because latency that that's

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<v Speaker 1>what gives you that that swimmy feeling that things are

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<v Speaker 1>not quite right. And if if you're going on a

0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:53.800
<v Speaker 1>miles per hour and things are not quite right, that's

0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:56.320
<v Speaker 1>you're you're gonna get sick pretty quickly. You know. I

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<v Speaker 1>just now had a thought that the next thing after

0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:02.280
<v Speaker 1>drone race, it's going to be drone demolition derby. Isn't

0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:06.760
<v Speaker 1>it already exists? Well, wait just a bit and i'll

0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:11.480
<v Speaker 1>tell you about combat. Yeah, oh no, no you're not.

0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:15.160
<v Speaker 1>That's in our notes. When they get there, i'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not long though, you don't have to wait

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<v Speaker 1>very long. Um. So, the speed's involved in the races

0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:23.000
<v Speaker 1>that dr L is putting on are are pretty intense.

0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:26.320
<v Speaker 1>According to dr L, they can be up to around

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred twenty miles per hour orde kilometers per hour.

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<v Speaker 1>That's incredibly fast. And keep in mind the pilots are

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<v Speaker 1>seeing this from a first person perspective, and some of

0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:39.760
<v Speaker 1>the courses include lots of tight turns and uh, you know,

0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:43.360
<v Speaker 1>ducking down areas where you know you can see where

0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you have to go, but you can't see past where

0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:48.040
<v Speaker 1>you like. It goes around a corner where you're not

0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:49.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to see until you get around the corner.

0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:52.400
<v Speaker 1>And the pilots have never flown the courses before during

0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:56.840
<v Speaker 1>these competitions, so it gets pretty. It relies on a

0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:59.959
<v Speaker 1>lot of skill and agility. It also relies on all

0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:04.760
<v Speaker 1>out of technological ability at the DRL actually, in order

0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:07.360
<v Speaker 1>to cope with getting this live video feed at those

0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:09.720
<v Speaker 1>speeds back to the pilots and have them be able

0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 1>to respond in time, the LEAK designs its own radio

0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:17.080
<v Speaker 1>communication systems both into the drones and into the architecture

0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 1>of every event space, and they set up right so

0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the pilots are seeing kind of a standard definition video.

0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:24.240
<v Speaker 1>It's not that same HD feed that you get in

0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the finished product. In fact, d r l A said

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:31.480
<v Speaker 1>they plan on having these events happen and then cutting

0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:34.160
<v Speaker 1>together a video to show what happened in the race,

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:38.159
<v Speaker 1>so that spectators can watch the video because I don't know,

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:40.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you've ever seen video of one of

0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:44.800
<v Speaker 1>these events from outside the first person view perspective, very

0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 1>quickly it becomes boring. You're not looking at anything because

0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:51.720
<v Speaker 1>the drones will zoom pass, they'll get out of your

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.359
<v Speaker 1>field of view, and then you're just kind of waiting

0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 1>for another zoom. Yeah, and that'll that that's not satisfying.

0:23:57.840 --> 0:23:59.440
<v Speaker 1>In fact, that's one of the reasons why some of

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:02.120
<v Speaker 1>the other organ thozations have come up with stuff like

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 1>the demolition derby approach, because that's something that a crowd

0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 1>can experience in person and enjoy as opposed to a

0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:11.680
<v Speaker 1>race where you have that moment we're like, wow, those

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 1>things are going fast and they're gone now, So I guess,

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:17.879
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'll find out who won later. Spectator of

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:22.480
<v Speaker 1>F zero. Yeah. Yeah, unless you're somehow magically able to

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:25.640
<v Speaker 1>travel along like having that first person's view experience, I mean,

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:26.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't know with it with us. I've been to

0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:29.400
<v Speaker 1>a couple of car races before on very curvy courses

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:32.440
<v Speaker 1>where like, like I was sitting by a hairpin turn

0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 1>and and there were multiple different kinds of cars. It

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like a standardized race. There were different cars that

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:40.520
<v Speaker 1>were coming by, and A they were so loud, and

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.240
<v Speaker 1>B it was this hairpin turn, and every single car

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 1>that came by, I was convinced that it was going

0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:47.159
<v Speaker 1>to crash and everyone was going to die and it

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:49.240
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be the most upsetting thing. So I was

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:51.680
<v Speaker 1>entertained by that for a good while. I was about say, like, yeah,

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:54.720
<v Speaker 1>that sounds like a fun day, but it's very tense,

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:58.920
<v Speaker 1>like car racing. You probably probably slept really well that night.

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I was so tired from being tense. I just

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 1>wanted to say, but but yes, I could see how

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:06.720
<v Speaker 1>that would get very dull very quickly with drones. Yeah.

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:09.399
<v Speaker 1>So one of the cool things that dr L plans

0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:12.000
<v Speaker 1>on doing is using lots of different locations for their races,

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>including things like arenas where drones will race not just

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:18.120
<v Speaker 1>around the arena, but down these hallways. So like the

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:20.360
<v Speaker 1>entrance way you would have to walk through to get

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:23.399
<v Speaker 1>to the arena from the lobby, drones may have to

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:27.639
<v Speaker 1>duck down that same hallway, go through a backstage area

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:30.960
<v Speaker 1>essentially before coming back out through the arena area. UM,

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and they'll have to fly through various boxes that are

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:36.679
<v Speaker 1>all lit up that are the indicate markers that you

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:39.360
<v Speaker 1>know that that's kind of like flags in a slalomn

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:42.440
<v Speaker 1>course you have to go through to to qualify. UM.

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:45.639
<v Speaker 1>But they'll also look at using things like abandoned buildings.

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Apparently there's an abandoned mall in Los Angeles that's one

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 1>of their courses. And also they're playing on using some

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 1>landmarks as potential race courses as well. I don't know

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>how they get the uh clearance to do that necessarily,

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:02.159
<v Speaker 1>but that's that's in their plans as well, right up

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>the nose of Mount Rushmore, that's right. Uh. And the

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 1>d r OL is one of the companies that provides

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:09.439
<v Speaker 1>the drones to the pilots. It brings I've heard like

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 1>about a hundred to each event, just in case there's

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:13.960
<v Speaker 1>like that many crashes and they need to just send

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:17.440
<v Speaker 1>another one out. The pilots, by the way, are paid

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:20.200
<v Speaker 1>by the league, um, though perhaps not very much because

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I've heard that most of the pilots have full time

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>jobs when they're not running around at the events. Yeah.

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I imagine that because this is so early in the

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 1>life of DRL that perhaps what they're hoping for is

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 1>for it to to rise to a level where pilots

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:39.160
<v Speaker 1>could be paid a living wage just from professionally competing

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:40.919
<v Speaker 1>in these in these kind of races. Yeah, I think

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>that's absolutely their goal. Uh. Their method is to score

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:46.879
<v Speaker 1>pilots based off of passing certain checkpoints. They get fifty

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>points for two checkpoints per race. UM and also that

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 1>you get ten points for every second you finished the

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 1>race under a two minute cap, so that's kind of cool.

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:00.119
<v Speaker 1>And and then that race determined are that all of

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 1>those points together determines your score for that heat of

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:06.359
<v Speaker 1>a race, and races consist of three heats UM. Each

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:09.119
<v Speaker 1>heat involves a new drone for each racer, so that

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 1>way you don't have to worry about the fact that

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:13.360
<v Speaker 1>if you've just raced that you know the drone you're

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:16.719
<v Speaker 1>using now has got a lower battery, so each one

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 1>is supposed to be fully charged and up to spec,

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.879
<v Speaker 1>all identical to one another UM. So a pilot score

0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 1>is the sum of his or her performance across all

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>the heats UH and there are also multiple rounds per season,

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 1>so the qualifying round will see twelve pilots compete. After

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 1>the heats are finished, all the points are tallied and

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 1>the eight best UH scores will go on to the semifinals.

0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 1>After that, you have another series of three heats for

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 1>a race. The top points top four pilots go on

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>to the finals, and then the the one who has

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 1>the best score of all after another three heats is

0:27:56.359 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 1>named that champion. And apparently apparently this points is them

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 1>is the way that NASCAR does it essentially. Yeah, yeah,

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:07.400
<v Speaker 1>that's what I understand too. I've never actually looked into NASCAR,

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>but as I understand that's that's the way they judge

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 1>it as well. Also, like NASCAR, the league hopes to

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:17.119
<v Speaker 1>eventually attract pilot sponsorships the same way that drivers are

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 1>sponsored in in NASCAR and other racing sports. You have

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 1>like the slim Gym drones. Yeah, the Tide drone exactly.

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 1>And uh, and that's part of why they're so focused

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>on creating these these visually dynamic videos of the races

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 1>that will appeal to audiences. Um. Those videos, meanwhile, I've heard,

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 1>are based on the aesthetic of video games, like the

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 1>sorts of things where you've got a frozen level and

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>in a desert level, a tropical level, like an urban level.

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>And and they've said that that's what they've had in

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 1>mind when they've been designing their courses. Uh. I mean, honestly,

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.479
<v Speaker 1>like the the League as a company sounds just savvy

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>as all get out to If they're able to partner

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 1>with someone like Nintendo and make a rainbow road course

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 1>game over against that's that's that's going to get a

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 1>huge nostalgia uh rabid fan base to to say, like,

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I want to compete in that league. Uh, there's also

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 1>other ones, though the Aerial Sports League is the one,

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 1>and this is what we're gonna get to the combat

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>stuff in just a second. Arial Sports League was founded

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:21.480
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand eleven. It was actually a group of

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 1>hobbyists in the Bay Area, including people who were working

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 1>with the MythBusters and um and and folks who worked

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 1>with like the robot battles in the area. And Grant Amahara,

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>if you didn't know, was very active in that he

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>was a designer for robots for robot battles. So they

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>would meet every Friday, and when drones came out, the

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 1>early adopters grabbed drones, and then before too long they said, hey,

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>how about we start fighting our drones, and they began

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>to do that, and then they started to design drones

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>that were better suited for a combat, meaning that it

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>was easier to repair them after after they had collided

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>with each other twenty feet in the air and crash

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 1>to the ground. UM. So they also hold races similar

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>to dr L, but they aren't as um as elaborate

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>in scale. Uh so they don't do like the giant

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>arena thing with like the smoke and the lasers and

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff that DRL does. There's are

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 1>more like on soccer fields with a little obstacle course

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 1>and the racers are using the f PV goggles, but

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:27.640
<v Speaker 1>the spectators tend to just be watching, right, and they

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>point out, they said, that's not very interesting for spectators.

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 1>So we understand that as a business this is not

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:36.479
<v Speaker 1>really viable because it only caters to the people who

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>are actually competing, not to a larger fan base, which

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>is why they introduced combat. So there's also these are

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 1>these are distinct from the racing games. They're not combined,

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>so it's not like you're racing and then you're trying

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>to nudge the other pilot off the course or no, uh,

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>it's not like that. Is that what that was? That game?

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a motorcycle racing game where you hit people with

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 1>chains and then a bat I think at one point, yeah,

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 1>like death proof or something. Yeah, it's not not Yeah,

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 1>there's none of that is going on. But they do

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>have the combat events, and these are usually they take

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 1>place in a large, uh netted in arena, so that

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>way no uh, no piece will fly out and hurt

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>somebody who's watching. UM. But these are easier for respectators

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 1>to watch and appreciate. And typically a match consists of

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>either an objective oriented game like you either pick up

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>an object or maybe you already have one attached to

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>certain uh drones within the playing area, and then you

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 1>have to move through a course or you have to

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 1>move through like a hoop. The one I saw it

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 1>almost looked like there was a pom pom attached to

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>the bottom of a drone and it kept the pilot

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 1>kept clearly trying to move it through a hoop, while

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 1>other drones just slammed into it from all directions. I

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 1>never saw one successfully navigate through a hoop. I saw

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of close calls ending and crashes, or you

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 1>might just have a straight up bash them up between

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>two or more opponents. So like the Royal Rumble equivalent

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 1>of drone combat uh and really that's it's the old

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>thunder dome philosophy. Two drones enter, one drone leaves, and

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>one drone doesn't always leave. Now sometimes sometimes to drones

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 1>enter and nobody goes home, or they go home in pieces. UM.

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 1>The basic drone used in these tends to be the

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 1>game of drones. Heroro Sports airframe. This is what was

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>developed by that that group of hobbyists, uh that they

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 1>call essentially indestructible. It's a very resilient airframe design, and

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>it's a kit that pilots can then build and even modify,

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 1>so it's it's not like everyone is forced to use

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:55.719
<v Speaker 1>exactly the same thing. Um And they are for sale.

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>You can buy one of these kids. They are not cheap.

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I think they're around for four hundred and four d

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>thirty dollars something like that. I'm pretty expensive. I mean

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a uh they're they're supposed to be pretty high end.

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>So they say it's a great starter for anyone who

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>wants to get into the drone combat stuff. Um And

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of other organizations, tons of them,

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 1>way too many to name. Uh. Two that I just

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>ran across quickly before I saw that there were so

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>many that I thought there's just no way I can

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>do all these. One was F one f PV Racing League,

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 1>which is in Raleigh, North Carolina. Might be the closest

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 1>one to us. There might be one in Atlanta. I

0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't see or the drone Racing network that's called q

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 1>A R O P and I don't know how to

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>pronounce that because there's no U after the q uh.

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 1>And there are ton more, but these largely grew out

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 1>of hobbyist groups similar to the one I was just

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 1>talking about, So lots of different options. Uh, if you

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>are interested in this sort of stuff, you can easily

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>use the Googles and search for groups that are remotely

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>close to you remote because yeah, you do them. Let's

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:08.360
<v Speaker 1>talk about some big drone races, all right, So you

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 1>might be thinking, all right, so there are these groups. Uh,

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>there's the championship that we talked about earlier, the the

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:17.280
<v Speaker 1>first national Championship race. Are there any other big ones planned?

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>And yes, there are lots. Well, like we mentioned, the

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.839
<v Speaker 1>next National drone Racing competition is going to take play

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 1>or the next Championship is going to take place in

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:29.799
<v Speaker 1>sixteen Governors Island, New York City, right, Yeah, and it's

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:33.120
<v Speaker 1>going to be streamed live on ESPN three, which is

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>one of their online channels, and will also be edited

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>down into an hour long broadcast on ESPN Proper, which

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 1>which is which is a pretty huge first step for

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>for this as a sport. It could it could be

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the next Texas Holding poker. Sure, I mean, you know,

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:50.959
<v Speaker 1>I guess, depending you know, like like pending on whether

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.360
<v Speaker 1>anyone actually watches it or not. But but in a

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>press release, ESPN said drone racing is poised to become

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>the next behemoth racing sport alongside NASCAR in Formula one.

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Uh And whether that's hopeful marketing or an earnest prediction,

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to tell. But I mean, but they're putting

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 1>but they're putting money and effort into this, right, And

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>it's not like it's the cho right sure, just what

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 1>dodgeball supposedly esp ao. Um. But yeah, there's also other championships.

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:24.400
<v Speaker 1>There's I mean, you're thinking national championships sound great, but

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 1>what if I want to be king of the world. Well,

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>there's also the World Drone Racing Championships organized by Rotor Sports.

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Those are the same folks who did the National Drone

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Racing Championships in California back in and that's going to

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 1>take place over the course of a week in October

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:45.439
<v Speaker 1>two thousand sixteen in kuwa Iowa Ranch, hawahite E, which

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I have been to and it is lovely. I bet

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:51.760
<v Speaker 1>ESPN three will be streaming this one live as well. Awesome,

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 1>and there's some pretty serious money. I mean, it's a

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:58.720
<v Speaker 1>big jump from the dollar and prizes that the National

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Championship had in twenty fIF team. There's gonna be a

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:05.840
<v Speaker 1>total across all races, you know, combined two hundred thousand

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 1>dollar amount of prizes, so that's amazing. They have lots

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 1>of different styles of of races and competitions that will

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 1>be involved in this event over the course of the week. Um,

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 1>there are different classes of drones that will be raced,

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and they the way they define the classes of drones

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 1>is by airframe size, So there's a class kind of

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of Yeah, there's a two fifty class that refers

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:35.320
<v Speaker 1>to the distance between the diagonal of two different motors,

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 1>and it cannot be greater than two d fifty millimeters.

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 1>So if it's in that range of two or fifty millimeters,

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:43.840
<v Speaker 1>but bigger than a hundred eighty because otherwise you go

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 1>down to the micro class. Um, then you could race

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>in this class of of drone vehicle. H. Then they

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 1>also have other ones like a one thousand millimeter air

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 1>frame class so significantly larger. Uh. They also have a

0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 1>fixed wing class. It's so I've not seen what those are,

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>and there's not a lot of detail about what that

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 1>race is going to entail yet. In fact, they on

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:10.360
<v Speaker 1>the website they say details will be uh coming out later.

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.439
<v Speaker 1>But there's apparently one where you're going to be quote

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>unquote surfing a cliff uh in Hawaii using these fixed wings,

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 1>And I'm wondering what that specifically means, but it sounds

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:28.319
<v Speaker 1>pretty awesome. Um, surfing a cliff, Yeah, I don't get it.

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't either. I'm wondering if it means that you

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>have to go down the face of the cliff and

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:34.839
<v Speaker 1>then pull up, I don't know, or it maybe that

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:38.719
<v Speaker 1>you're using the updraft coming from the cliff to maintain

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>a certain space and do some freestyle tricks. I don't know,

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:45.799
<v Speaker 1>because there aren't the details for that one yet, but

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 1>it does sound really interesting. So if you want to

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>compete in these World Championships, well, you're gonna need to

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 1>earn your spot. You gotta pay your dues, and the

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>way you could do that is to win one of

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:03.400
<v Speaker 1>the associated races is in the thirty participating countries, So

0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>there are qualifying races that are happening around the world,

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 1>and if you win a qualifier, then you can go

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 1>on to race in this championship. Or if you have

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 1>not had the time to race in one of those

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 1>events around the world, you could go to Hawaii and

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>enter the Aloha Cup and that is going to be

0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 1>a race that will the results of which will end

0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 1>up picking ten qualifiers to be part of the championship race. Um,

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 1>but you will not be able to join any countries team.

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 1>You'll essentially be ah independent lone wolf. So you can't

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 1>be like, I'm on Team America because you didn't win

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the American races, you won the Aloha Cup. Uh.

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 1>But I love that. That's that's still giving people the

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:55.480
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to race in the World Championship. Yeah. There's also

0:38:55.800 --> 0:39:00.320
<v Speaker 1>a World Drone pre the The inaugural one just happened

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:04.320
<v Speaker 1>in Dubai in March and it boasted a prize pool

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 1>of over a million dollars because Dubai, there were like

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:12.399
<v Speaker 1>a hundred and fifty teams competing and more than two

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:15.840
<v Speaker 1>thousand spectators on the site and it was it was

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>one that the competition was won by a British team

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 1>led by fifteen year old Luke Banister, Uh, yeah, I

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 1>was not. And then the prize, the first prize was

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 1>two thousand dollars, so so good job, Luke Banister. Yeah,

0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:36.319
<v Speaker 1>I bet your team was really happy. Yes, wow, two ars.

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 1>This is just making me think of we finally reached

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the world I was promised when I saw the Fred

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 1>Savage Masterpiece of the Wizard. Except instead of video games,

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about drone racing. And we don't have to

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 1>wear the ninto, no power glove, and and high school

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:55.720
<v Speaker 1>aged kids can be out there doing this thing. That's amazing.

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, you don't have to wear the power glove

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:00.359
<v Speaker 1>to pilot a drone, but you might have to wear

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:03.840
<v Speaker 1>a funny looking hat. What what you're talking about, Joe?

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I want to introduce another type of drone racing that's

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>taken place, which is drone racing via mind control pilot.

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 1>What yeah, surely not? Yeah they did it, you know

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 1>why not? Okay? Yeah? So what you know? What if

0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 1>piloting a drone with your hands is just not enough,

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 1>so we're going to introduce the element of simulated telepathy.

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:31.399
<v Speaker 1>We've talked about brain computer interfaces on the show before. BC.

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I s there are lots of ways you can do this,

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:37.759
<v Speaker 1>but essentially the idea is you want to interface directly

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 1>between your brain and a computer without having to use

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:44.239
<v Speaker 1>your hands or your eyes or something like that. So

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 1>no keyboard, no mouse, no screen. You just got something

0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 1>either on your head or in your head that that

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 1>relays commands or feedback to and from a computer. And

0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 1>in this case, it's an on your head situation. I

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:02.879
<v Speaker 1>am not aware of a situation in which they implanted

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:05.359
<v Speaker 1>something in the skull, but I'm going to suggest that

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 1>they should. So. In April of the University of Florida

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 1>hosted what appears to be the world's first brain controlled

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 1>drone race. Yeah, Alma matern doing stuff other than getting

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:24.719
<v Speaker 1>its students tas it doesn't involve electrical impulse. Yeah. So

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 1>the drones were trained to interface with pilots neural activity

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 1>through an e G. And that that's electro and cephalography,

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and it means putting electrodes on the outside of your

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 1>scalp to since brain activity through the skull and the skin.

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 1>The drones in question were d j I Phantom drones.

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty much a standard in the industry. Yeah, and

0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>there were sixteen pilots the race was you will someone

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 1>please read off the full course length ten yards ten

0:41:53.680 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 1>yards race and about the measurement, right they were They

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:06.839
<v Speaker 1>weren't racing across ten people's yards. It was like, yeah,

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>and so this is probably you can chalk this up

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:11.719
<v Speaker 1>to the the e G method. So this works the

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:14.320
<v Speaker 1>same way a lot of e G experiments work. Meaning

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>you can't just put on an e G cap and say, okay,

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 1>drone go. It doesn't know how to go. It doesn't

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:22.760
<v Speaker 1>know what that means when you think that. So instead,

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 1>what you have to do is train the computer to

0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 1>look for certain types of neural activity. Right. So that way, uh,

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:34.480
<v Speaker 1>it recognizes that when you are are when that neural

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 1>activity is a certain thing, it indicates a certain action exactly.

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 1>So here here's an example. So you put on this

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.200
<v Speaker 1>e G cap, you put some electrodes on your scalp,

0:42:43.600 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and then you practice thinking about a particular motion, like

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:52.720
<v Speaker 1>pushing something forward. You concentrate real hard on pushing something forward,

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and then that mental activity gets recorded by the computer

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 1>and then it's sort of average profile is mapped onto

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:02.319
<v Speaker 1>controller elements for the drone. Yeah, so so you tell

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 1>the computer when I think this, I want you to

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:09.759
<v Speaker 1>move forward when this brain pattern happens right exactly, and

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 1>so the signal produced when you think really hard about

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 1>pushing forward gets correlated to maybe like a forward stick motion.

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:20.360
<v Speaker 1>And since the e G has to go through the

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 1>skull and the skin, you might guess that it's a

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 1>lot less sensitive than some other types of BC eyes.

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And this is reflected if you go and watch the

0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:33.360
<v Speaker 1>videos of the University of Florida released from this event.

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Actually I don't know if it was released by the

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:37.840
<v Speaker 1>university itself, that somebody put out some videos of this event.

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:41.280
<v Speaker 1>And the drones were they were moving, they really were moving.

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:44.080
<v Speaker 1>People had the electrodes on, they were thinking, thinking into

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:47.719
<v Speaker 1>their computers, they're going, and the drones were just kind

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:52.720
<v Speaker 1>of like inching forward barely. I bet you can chalk

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 1>this up to the lack of sensitivity of e G

0:43:56.320 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 1>because e G is a very comparatively strong way to

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:07.319
<v Speaker 1>sense neural activity. If you could instead implant some microelectro

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:10.879
<v Speaker 1>to rays directly into your motor cortex, then I bet

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 1>you could really make that drone go. I wonder if

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 1>you could sabotage a race just by playing Dave Matthews

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 1>crash into me you just see all them, making people

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 1>imagine they're just all the all the drones just end

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 1>up colliding with one another. Also, and unless you trained

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 1>it to crash when you did, that's a college crowd too,

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 1>so that they'd ultimately I mean, granted it's different college

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 1>crowd than when I went to college, but if if

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.319
<v Speaker 1>you had played that at U g A back when

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I was there, they went, well, at least we've got

0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Dave Matthews, I guess. So, I mean that's what the

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:46.840
<v Speaker 1>college kids like. Huh, that was that was what it

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 1>seemed like pent of my classmates liked. It wasn't what

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I liked, but well anyway, so so yeah, brain controlled

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 1>drone raceist that's the future. Obviously, using hands is so old.

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:02.759
<v Speaker 1>So with this, this uh, this form of entertainment, this

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:07.799
<v Speaker 1>form of of competition gaining in popularity, I mean pretty

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:10.760
<v Speaker 1>pretty quickly. Like this was something that I remembered seeing

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:14.160
<v Speaker 1>some videos of concepts for drone races in the past,

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 1>but it seems like it went from concept to execution

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 1>remarkably quickly, especially to the point where major outlets like

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 1>ESPN are taking notice. We then need to think, how

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:32.399
<v Speaker 1>do we get people involved in the sport, maybe not

0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 1>just as a spectator, but also perhaps even as a pilot. Uh.

0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:38.880
<v Speaker 1>And there are a lot of different opportunities out there, Uh,

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:42.800
<v Speaker 1>not all of them requiring you to have cable. Yeah,

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:45.360
<v Speaker 1>there's a few companies that are starting to offer racing

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:50.960
<v Speaker 1>drone kits specifically for for racings. Uh. It's largely right

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 1>now through crowdfunding campaigns. But if they're successful, I could

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I could totally see them turning into like long term businesses.

0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 1>A lot of them, stressed the d I Y asked

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 1>backed pretty heavily with the consumer providing the construction of

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 1>the drone, but some others are fully assembled. Prices seem

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 1>to range from the like three hundred nine hundred dollar

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing, um, depending on whether you do most

0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:17.279
<v Speaker 1>of the assembly work yourself, and whether accessories like the

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:22.400
<v Speaker 1>f PV goggles come along with the package. Right. So, uh,

0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 1>if you're doing the f PV racing in particular, I

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:27.360
<v Speaker 1>mean that that makes sense that the expense is going

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 1>to be a little higher than you're just than your

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 1>average quad copter that you could go out and buy

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:34.120
<v Speaker 1>at the hobby store, right exactly, because you know, I mean,

0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 1>you could do a drone race where you just have

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:41.120
<v Speaker 1>visual contact with the drone the entire time, but that

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:45.759
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have the same level of of complexity, and you

0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:49.880
<v Speaker 1>can't do things like the crazy obstacles as easily because

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:52.320
<v Speaker 1>once you know, once the drone gets a distance away,

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 1>you can't judge, oh, do I need to go further

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 1>up in order to get through that hoop? It's too hard, right,

0:46:57.560 --> 0:47:00.360
<v Speaker 1>So the FPV really is what and plus just it

0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:03.799
<v Speaker 1>makes the whole experience more exciting. So if you're really

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:06.359
<v Speaker 1>interested in this, there are lots of hobbyist groups out there,

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 1>many of what you can find through the various organizations

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:12.120
<v Speaker 1>we mentioned earlier, and a lot of them hold events

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 1>that allow people to fly a drone and even fly

0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>a drone with that FPV headset on and get some

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:20.480
<v Speaker 1>stick time is what they call it um uh and

0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:23.279
<v Speaker 1>the actual control time where you are in control of

0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the drone and you can see what the pilots see.

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, you were wearing the headset. The the event

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:33.120
<v Speaker 1>provides the drone typically, and so you would just go

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:36.400
<v Speaker 1>and there'd be like uh, Like there're several where they

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:38.719
<v Speaker 1>have an experience where you can go, you get in

0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 1>line when it's your turn, you put on the headset,

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:44.839
<v Speaker 1>you get the controller, and then you get to fly

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:47.279
<v Speaker 1>the drone around. And some of them even have like

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:50.560
<v Speaker 1>timed courses where you can try and set the best

0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:53.560
<v Speaker 1>time of the day and it's an open challenge, and

0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:56.239
<v Speaker 1>after you're done, you can go and get back in

0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 1>line and try and beat your time and make sure

0:47:58.280 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 1>that you're the one who wins at the end of

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 1>the day. Just kind of cool. The idea that this

0:48:02.880 --> 0:48:05.719
<v Speaker 1>is a way to get people involved and interested and

0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 1>find out if this is something that they would like

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 1>to spend money and time on and and join that community. Yeah,

0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:14.439
<v Speaker 1>And I mean, and it's a fun it's a fun

0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:18.360
<v Speaker 1>sport or experience or hobby, but it's also a terrific

0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:21.920
<v Speaker 1>way to get people interested in mechanics and engineering, programming

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:25.759
<v Speaker 1>and all kinds of other important stem or steam now

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:28.720
<v Speaker 1>the kinds of areas. Yeah, the first time I saw Steam,

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a type of totally Yeah. And

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 1>the the a is for arts, yeah, yeah, which is

0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:37.359
<v Speaker 1>great because I mean I would argue that arts are

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 1>just as important as those other pieces too, But I mean,

0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 1>especially like like design, Like I mean, design is kind

0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 1>of a pretty important part of engineering, but yeah, that's ah,

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:48.839
<v Speaker 1>so that's sort of our overview of drone races now.

0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:51.879
<v Speaker 1>When we were first putting this together, I was initially thinking, oh,

0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 1>we can also mention other emerging sports things that have

0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:57.279
<v Speaker 1>been around longer than drone races but are starting to

0:48:57.320 --> 0:48:59.640
<v Speaker 1>finally get some traction in the United States, like a

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:03.960
<v Speaker 1>E sports or video professional video game competitions, But that

0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:06.840
<v Speaker 1>would require an entire episode all on its own, and

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:08.919
<v Speaker 1>of course we would have to go into how other

0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:13.200
<v Speaker 1>nations like like South Korea in particular, are well ahead

0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:15.480
<v Speaker 1>of the curve on that kind of thing, and maybe

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:17.800
<v Speaker 1>we'll do a full episode about that in the future

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 1>as well. But I think we need to devote an

0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 1>episode to Cyborg p Fowl writing. I think I really

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 1>think it's interesting and part of the reason why I

0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:30.080
<v Speaker 1>would love to do a professional video game episode like

0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:34.400
<v Speaker 1>the Future of Sports Part two or whatever. Yeah, E Sports,

0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I would like to kind of do one, just to

0:49:36.320 --> 0:49:41.240
<v Speaker 1>have the discussion about why do you think drone racing

0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:46.160
<v Speaker 1>is getting a lot more mainstream media attention very early

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<v Speaker 1>on compared to what E sports have had experienced in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, And I think it's largely because it

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<v Speaker 1>involves a physical thing moving through physical space, and for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, mainstream media values that higher than moving a

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<v Speaker 1>virtual object through virtual space, even if the skill set

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<v Speaker 1>is remarkably the same. I wonder if it also has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the perception that the competitors are less

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<v Speaker 1>freaky or creepy. It's it's entirely possible. It's it's well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the stereotypical idea of oh, you're you're good at video games,

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<v Speaker 1>you must be terrible at social interaction or anything else. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>everything else you're bad at. You're only good at video games.

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<v Speaker 1>We would like to break that stereotype every every day

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<v Speaker 1>we work at that thing. Yeah, so this was a

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<v Speaker 1>fun thing to look into. Again, we didn't realize how

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<v Speaker 1>big a deal it was until we started to really

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<v Speaker 1>do the research. And now I totally want to have

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<v Speaker 1>that experience. I know that I would never be at

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of competitive level, but I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>have the experience of flying one of these drones with

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<v Speaker 1>at fpv uh headset on. I think it would be

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<v Speaker 1>really cool. And if any of you out there have

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<v Speaker 1>had experience with this, I would love to hear your thoughts, like,

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