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How do you do that? 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: Just download the FanDuel Sports Book app, sign up with 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: a promo code Colin Let him know I sent you. 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: The Colin Card Podcast presented by FanDuel Sports Book. Hi, everybody, 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: and welcome to the Wednesday Morning Podcast. My buddy Mike Silver. 15 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: He's gonna have insight on Harbaugh to the Vikings, really 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: good insight on the market for Jimmy Garoppolo, and we're 17 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: going to spend a good ten twelve minutes, maybe fifteen 18 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: on Brian Flores and that damning lawsuit against the NFL 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: and several parties. Let me start with some thoughts on 20 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: three topics Number one, Tom Brady. Many people pointed out 21 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: when Adam Schefter and Jeff Darlington broke the story that 22 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: Brady was retiring that you can't trust the media. Fake media, 23 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: media doesn't know anything. Listen, they were right, and the 24 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: media is like any other field medicine, aviation, architecture, pilots. 25 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: There are people you trust and people you don't trust. 26 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: Every field has its share of cretans and bad actors. Okay, 27 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter and Jeff Darlington have been in the business 28 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: for decades. I would put them at the top of 29 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: any list in terms of breaking stories. When you cry 30 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: fake news, it doesn't make you sound informed. Schefter and 31 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: Darlington bat about ninety eight percent. Now, I've had sources 32 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: lie to me. In fact, I wouldn't even use the 33 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: word lie. I've had sources pretend they know more than 34 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: they do. We make mistakes. The IRS audit sometimes people 35 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: and finds nothing but the Brady story. Tom's not going 36 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: to be able to, with his stature and status, control 37 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: his exit. When he went to Tampa, I broke that story, 38 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: he didn't, And when he left the sport, Schefter and 39 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: Jeff Darlington broke that story, he didn't. It's the reality 40 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: of our job and the reality of his fame. I 41 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: hear people talking about Jim Harbaugh interviewing for the Minnesota Vikings, 42 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: and again Mike Silver and I will talk about this 43 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: at some length as if it will hurt Michigan recruiting. 44 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: I hear this all the time, folks. When you interview 45 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: for an NFL job as a college coach, it increases 46 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: your value because college players overwhelmingly want to get paid 47 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: professionally to hit people and throw and catch passes. It 48 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: in no way hurts the recruiting of Michigan football. If 49 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh was in the SEC at an Alabama, where 50 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: that footprint there are more top three hundred high school 51 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: football players than the Michigan the state of Michigan footprint, 52 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh would have national championships. He is a great coach, 53 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: and when Pete Carroll was at USC, long before he left, 54 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: he was hotly rumored to be interviewed or interviewing for 55 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: multiple NFL jobs. Great people, and there aren't many in 56 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: any field. Harbaugh is a great coach professionally or collegiately. 57 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: Great coach coaches, great doctors, great everything. People are seeking 58 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: them out, whether they're employed or not. Biggest college news 59 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 1: yesterday Caleb Williams, the star quarterback from Oklahoma, has transferred 60 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: to USC. So I went to social media Friday, gave 61 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: a fight on and said I was hearing things. What 62 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: I heard was there was no truth to the rumors 63 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: he was going to play for the Wisconsin Badgers, despite 64 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: the fact Bobby Ingram was hired by Wisconsin and he 65 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: knows Caleb Williams and his father. I was told no 66 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: truth to that. From the very beginning. I was told 67 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: it was a seventy five percent lean to USC and 68 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: Oklahoma had about a twenty five percent chance. But I'll 69 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: say this, he made the right move. Look at what 70 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: McVeigh has done for Stafford, look at what Andy Reid 71 00:04:55,680 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: has done for Patrick Mahomes. If you look around the 72 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: NFL at defensive players, their elevation and talent is not 73 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: as directly tied to their defensive coordinator or coach. Quarterbacks, 74 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: you're often as good as your head coach. You can 75 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: look around the NFL or college football. Once you find 76 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: your kingmaker, once you find your mentor offensively, your best 77 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: bet is to follow him wherever he goes. This was 78 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: the right choice for Caleb Williams Now. I've said this, 79 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: USC's front seven defensively is simply not good enough to 80 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: compete for a national championship. But people look at USC's 81 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: four wins and eight lost record last year and say, boy, 82 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: they've got a long way to go. No, it speaks 83 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: to how lousy of a coach Clay Helton was. With 84 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: the same people, it probably would have been an eight 85 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: and four record with Lincoln Riley. Clay Helton didn't get 86 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: an interview at a Power five conference, didn't get an 87 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: interview when fired by USC. He won seventy percent of 88 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: his games in the Pac twelve in a Rose Bowl, 89 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: and did not get an interview at any Power five 90 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: conference school. He was a bad coach. This is not 91 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: a great roster, but it is filled with talented players 92 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: who the right coach will win and duly noting the 93 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: Pac twelve is the weakest it has been in my life. 94 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: Oregon has the most talent and USC is not on 95 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: their schedule next year. Offensively, the transfer portal has allowed 96 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: USC to strengthen significantly in the last month. They will 97 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: vie for the conference and I'd be surprised if they 98 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: don't win it. That said, they are two to three 99 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: years away, and multiple recruiting classes from vying from the Buckeyes, Clemson, Georgia, Alabama, 100 00:06:54,040 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: and maybe even Oklahoma. Let's get to Mike Silver, all right, 101 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: I bring in Mike Silver on a day full of news. 102 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: Let's start with Brian Flores suing multiple people from as 103 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: far as I can tell, the Giants, the Dolphins. It 104 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: includes a Bill Belichick level letter. He's suing the NFL. 105 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: My first takeaway as it's a little scorched earth. He 106 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: probably would acknowledge, not that it would be a career ender, 107 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: but it will limit some opportunities going forward if you 108 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: are a litigious person. That scare some people off. But 109 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: I always thought the Rooney rules a little shammy to 110 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,559 Speaker 1: begin with. What's your takeaway? And the Flores lawsuits? Yeah, Colin, 111 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: it looks like he snapped. And I can understand and 112 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: appreciate why any black coach would snap, given the overall 113 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: backdrop of coaching and race in the NFL that I've 114 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: witnessed in my thirty three years covering this league and 115 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: before that as a consumer. It's just, you know, there's 116 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: so many instances where it just doesn't seem fair on 117 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: the systemic level, and this particular coaching cycle has not 118 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: gone well. And then if you look at the allegations 119 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: in this lawsuit, it looks like he experienced some pretty 120 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: frustrating things on a personal level. There's the text from 121 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick that Bill apparently thought was going to Brian Daball, 122 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: but instead what to Brian floryes Wow, that seemed to 123 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: indicate that Brian Dayball had the Giants job locked up 124 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: three days before Flores was interviewing. So I think as 125 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: these things compound, it just starts to feel like it's 126 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: not a level playing field, and somebody finally snapped to 127 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: the point where as you said, he filed a lawsuit 128 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: that will be certainly frowned upon by prospective employers in 129 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: this industry. But make no mistake, there are a lot 130 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: of black coaches and others who have had experienced the 131 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: state of a flong time will find this to be heroic. 132 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: And look, it just hasn't been a good stretch for 133 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: the NFL in terms of race, including the race norming 134 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: part of the concussion lawsuit, which hasn't gotten a lot 135 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: of attention. And I would encourage people to search engine 136 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: that and do a little more research. But maybe one 137 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: of the more abominable things I've seen. And that's not 138 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: just on the NFL. The players Association signed off on 139 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: that settle, but too. It's since been rectified after attention 140 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: was drawn to it. But just it hasn't been a 141 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: great run. And meanwhile, you have a league that has 142 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: end racism, and it takes all of us in the 143 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: end zone and on helmets, and it's gonna be a 144 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: great halftime show that appeals to the urban demographic. It's 145 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: a crazy time for this to hit the NFL. And 146 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: I having worked at the NFL for as long as 147 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: I did eight years with NFL Network, I know that 148 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: they are flipping out, both in that Los Angeles NFL 149 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: media headquarters and in the league office on Park Avenue 150 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: in New York. Do we believe an African American coach 151 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: will be hired in this cycle? I believe that if 152 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: you're a team that has not yet hired a coach, 153 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: and you were planning to not hire an African American coach, 154 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: you are now thinking about how bad it looks in 155 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: a different way in the wake of this lawsuit. Now, 156 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: maybe that won't actually impact the decisions. But not only 157 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: has it been a rough cycle so far coach wise, 158 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: for diversity, we have had two very promising young black 159 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: gms who have been hired, which is cool and that's progress, 160 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: but you know, it's kind of looking like it's not 161 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: going to go great with Josh McCown maybe getting Houston, 162 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: and that's an offense that's offensive to a lot of 163 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: white coaches too. I don't want to just put that 164 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: in the race box. Someone with zero coaching experience getting 165 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: an NFL head coaching job should offend virtually any coach 166 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: with experience. But you know, you've we've seen Mattie eber flows, 167 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon's getting a lot of run. I think Kevin 168 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: O'Connell very well, maybe headed for a job. Mike McDaniel, 169 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: who is biracial, may have a shot at Miami, but 170 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: it's not looking awesome, and so I don't know will 171 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: this impact what actually happens in the cycle. Tell you 172 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: one thing, if I were Roger Goodell, I'd be working 173 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: the phones right now to the owners who haven't yet 174 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: made hires and saying, hey, anything you could do to 175 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: help us from a global standpoint right now, wouldn't hurt 176 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: because we look real, real bad. Well, I think what 177 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: really hurts the NFL. You know, Brian Flores one eight 178 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,359 Speaker 1: of nine with TUA and ten games with Ryan Fitzpatrick 179 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: in Tuah, And now I've both of us from various 180 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: sources heard that Flores, you know, and this has become 181 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: a Patriot trend, can be difficult. His inner personal skills 182 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: not very redeeming. Fired multiple offensive coordinators, okay, fine, and 183 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: I suspect Flores would get another job, although sometimes you know, 184 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, by the way, it may take a couple 185 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: of years. You know, it's by the way, there's not 186 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: many great jobs out there. The Raiders is considered the 187 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: best job, and it's one of the worst ownership situations 188 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: and the toughest division in football. So I always thought 189 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: Flores would get another job. He probably need to kind 190 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: of look in the mirror a little bit and in 191 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: his interpersonal skills, which by the way, Matt Patricia, Josh McDaniels, 192 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: Charlie Weiss. But you you know, when you came on 193 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: our podcast, I thought I wouldn't say you took the side, 194 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: but you understood the Flores after you did some deep diving. 195 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: You did understand Flores's dismissal in Miami. I felt I 196 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: think you put it really well. You know, a lot 197 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: of times black orway when we see people get fired 198 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: in a very surprising way in the NFL, When I 199 00:12:53,280 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: really dig deep, I find that relations at particularly Matt managing, 200 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: the relationship with ownership tends to be the thing we're missing. 201 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: And I would put John Dorsty for example. He was 202 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: a successful general manager in Kansas City, seemingly, and he's white, 203 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: and abruptly he was gone, seemed to be from what 204 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: I gathered, he wasn't doing a great job of keeping 205 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: ownership in the loop and giving them a sense of 206 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: what was, you know, important to them. So I think 207 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: Flores would fall into that camp. And look, he's a 208 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: young coach, and certainly let's not ignore the New England 209 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: part of it. You put that very very well. But yeah, 210 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: I when he was fired, that kind of made sense 211 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: to me. Because of that, though, I think we would 212 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: all have agreed, like won a lot of games. As 213 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: you said, it's pretty pretty weird firing. But listen not 214 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: to personalize. I've been accused quite recently by good friends 215 00:13:55,080 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: of personalizing everything. But you know, I recently moved on 216 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: from a job that I had for eight years, and 217 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm now trying to figure out my situation. And I 218 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: know that I was very frustrated by the way my 219 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: last job ended an NFL network, and that remains frustrating 220 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: to me. But as I've gone through it, not being 221 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: in that job and the outcome of that has frustrated 222 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: me much less than some of the things that I 223 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: felt have happened since then when I've been on the market. 224 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: And so I if that's what Brian Flores maybe's gone 225 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: through in the last couple of weeks and that's what 226 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: got him to snap, I can understand, because Okay, yeah, 227 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, it was weird, and I it's ridiculous in 228 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: my mind that I was fired with that record, But 229 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: maybe I just had a bad relationship with ownership or 230 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: whatever with the general manager. But really, now you're going 231 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: to make me do a saga dance interview for a 232 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: job with the New York Giants that I found out 233 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: from Bill Belichick if you believe Bill Belichick has it's 234 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: already in the bag for Brian dave Ball And there's 235 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: some other damning things that that lossuit. Again, we'll see 236 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: what the evidence is, but he says that he did 237 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: an interview with the Broncos at twenty nineteen that was effectively, 238 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: in his mind, to sham interview. He said that John 239 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: Elway and others showed up an hour late and in 240 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: his opinions, seemed to be hungover. And you know that 241 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure felt like a system that wasn't, you know, 242 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: geared toward his potential benefit or level plague field. There's 243 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: a charge in there that I think the most damning 244 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: thing in there. If again, we'll see what the evidence is, 245 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: but he says that Dolphins owners Stephen Ross did some 246 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: things including either offered him one hundred thousand dollars a 247 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: loss when he wanted him to take or actually gave 248 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: him that. I have to read it a little more closely. 249 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: He accuses Ross of trying to engineer this meeting with 250 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: z A, a unnamed prominent quarterback who was property of 251 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: another team over the offseason, where they would just happen 252 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: to meet and Flores found out about it at the left. 253 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there are some things in there that, you know, 254 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: go beyond the systemic racism part of it and are 255 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: just playing you know, damning to the people named, and 256 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: so it's really it's a bombshell that dropped. 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Having to waste two 293 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: hours talking an owner off a ledge when you're job. 294 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: The team you took over was one in fifteen, and 295 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: he can't believe you can't compete with Ray Lewis's Ravens 296 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: the following year. So I mean, when I read some 297 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: of the Brian Flores stuff, I'm like, yeah, what a 298 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: shock that. And I've said this before. We always say 299 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: there's about seven great quarterbacks in the league. There's about 300 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: seven great owners in the Yeah, very great point. Well 301 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: you're talking to the person who did under rankings annually 302 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: for both SI dot com and Yahoo Sports. And then 303 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: I know this is going to shock you. But when 304 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: I went to NFL Network, I stopped doing the Odo 305 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: rakings because they were very not only detailed, but very personalized. 306 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: I said things about owners that they weren't used to 307 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: hearing and didn't like to hear, not just about their 308 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: ownership style, but their personal style. And you know, I 309 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: stopped when I was an NFL employee. I suspect those 310 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: will resurface shortly, and they will. You know, I won't 311 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: hold back. But you're right. I always said when I 312 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: started doing Odo rakings, you would think in a competitive 313 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: industry like this with egos and by the way, a 314 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: guaranteed profit. You would think there'd be thirty two. You 315 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: know people out there who were like, I will do 316 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: anything to give my team a chance and support it, 317 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: and you're right. I mean seven might be a little 318 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: more than seven, and it's not more than twelve. You know, 319 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: it's somewhere in that seven to twelve. So depending on 320 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: how you and I would parse it, Yeah, maybe there's 321 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: a way you and I could turn this into a 322 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: just my wheels are spitting into a visual and audio 323 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: presentation too, because I love doing it in print. But 324 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot to say about all thirty two. Yeah, 325 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: it's I My initial reaction to Brian Flores is what 326 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: the hell? Then I made two calls people I trust, 327 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, it's the you know, it's the 328 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: Patriot paradigm again with lousy people skills. But god, you 329 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: win eight and nine games with TUA, you're gonna get 330 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: another job. By the way, where are we on Eric 331 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: b Enemy Is he interviewing for any of these jobs? Right? 332 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: He had one interview with the Broncos. I actually didn't 333 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: talk to Broncos general manager George Peyton because I'm very interested, 334 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: and he said, I said that you know, he's been 335 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: accused of not interviewing well in the past, and he said, no, 336 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: he interviewed very very well. That the enemy did. He 337 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: said he was a very good interview basically, you know, 338 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: a cynic would then say, and I think I probably asked, well, 339 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: why wasn't he one of your finalists? But before I 340 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: could even ask if I remember the conversation correctly, he 341 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: answered the question and the answer was I was blown 342 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: away by Nathaniel Hackett and Kevin O'Connell, who I believe 343 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: were the two finalists. They named Dan Quinn as the 344 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: third one. But I think the way he termed it 345 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: to me was that eric kind of really good interview. 346 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: But look, when people say, you know, I mean, listen, 347 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: everyone wants to litigate each one individually. And I can 348 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: going back to Sherm Lewis and Ray Rhodes and I 349 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: could do it every year, every cycle, every instance, but 350 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: it's it is a global phenomenon. But in terms of 351 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: the enemy, one thing that frustrates him and other black 352 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: coaches and other people who are paying attention is that, 353 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, Andy Reid had Doug Peterson as his non 354 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: play calling off as a coordinator Doug Peterson got a job, 355 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: Mattneggie succeeded him. He was the non play calling off 356 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: as a coordinator. He got a job. Eric b Enemy 357 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: became the non play calling off as a coordinator. Not 358 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: even better. And now it's like, yeah, don't want him. 359 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: And people said, well he hasn't called his own plays. 360 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, he's the exact same as the other two, 361 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of his job. And he's got 362 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: Andy Reid publicly and I know privately, pounded the table 363 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: and saying this guy will be a great head coach. 364 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean he will, but Andy Reid thinks so. So um, 365 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, I just Jim Caldwell has been a frustrating one. 366 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: Look what he did in Detroit. Look what's happened before 367 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: and since you know, and look, I know people like 368 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: to lampoon this, but I'm very very close with Hugh Jackson. 369 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: I understand much more about what was really going on 370 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: in Cleveland and what some of his unique challenges were. 371 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: And I would if he were right here next to me, 372 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: I would say, you did a lot of it yourself, buddy. 373 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: Some of your bad qualities came out in a stressful 374 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: situation and when you lose, you get fired. On the 375 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: other hand, there are a lot of things that happened 376 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: to him that were not very fair in my opinion, 377 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure some of them will be coming out before 378 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: too long. And I also know that it ruined his career. 379 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: This is a guy who had one season in Oakland 380 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: when was eight and eight and got screwed after Al 381 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: Davis did Mark took over. He who got fired, gutted 382 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: his way back after being an assisted special teams coach 383 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: and working all the way back up, got another chance 384 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: due to his great work with Andy Dalton, and you know, 385 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,959 Speaker 1: partly of his own making and partly because of the 386 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: position he was placed in. His career was essentially handed 387 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: and I know too much about it. That's not fair either. 388 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: They're just a lot of things that haven't been fair. 389 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: And again I know white coaches that are being screwed 390 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: to Don Martindale would be one that comes to mind. 391 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think he's been a great coordinator. 392 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: I think he should be a head coach. So I'm 393 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: not just putting every single thing through the Rachel lens, 394 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: but systemically it has not been fair, and I understand 395 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: why someone like Brian Flores would get fed up and 396 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: just say you know what I'm doing it? Yeah, I mean, listen, 397 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: there's a reason Mike Tomlin got very agitated when he 398 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: was asked about college and he said, would you ask 399 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: Sean Payton that? And I think the message was very clear, 400 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: although it was framed like a compliment. Mike Tomlin is 401 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl winning coach of the Steelers, and we 402 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: would not even for a minute think an Andy Reid 403 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: or a Sean Payton would go to the college level. 404 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: So I listen, I'm somebody that tries to be fair, 405 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: but I don't think any reasonable person can look at 406 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: what's happening and not say, all right, come on, let's 407 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: be honest about this. I mean, let me ask you name, 408 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: because Brian Flores is pretty damn intense. Name the last 409 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: non black coach who won eight of nine games and 410 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: was fired. I mean, seriously, it just doesn't happen. The 411 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: only the only parallel is Hardby in that he was 412 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: so successful and such Jim Harba was such a pain 413 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: and was so good he I mean, what Jim Harba did, 414 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to discount he took over in a 415 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: luckout year. You know where you can't be with your 416 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: players over the offseason a losing team, and they were 417 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game, hosting it and went to 418 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: overtime that first year, and then Super Bowl and then 419 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game narrow defeat, and that he had not 420 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: great year and was basically fired. Now it's the same 421 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: thing as Brian Flores. I understand why Jed Yorke was 422 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: done with Jim Harbaugh. I get it, and I would 423 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: have had no problem with him making that decision. I 424 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: just think the problem is if you bring it Jip Topsula, 425 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: you have to answer for that. But if you fire 426 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh and brought in Kyle Shannah had it probably 427 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: would have, you know, been okay. So it's it's not 428 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: an absolute, but you're right, it is there. It just 429 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: they're too many consistencies when you compare the two over 430 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: too much time that you can't if you're fair, you 431 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: gotta say it's not great. And the last thing I 432 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: would say is fans like to weigh in on this 433 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: stuff all the time. I speak to coaches every day, 434 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: and especially black coaches, but other coaches who aren't black, 435 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: and personnel people tell me these things too. But if 436 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: you think that they're just putting their heads down and 437 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: got a'st Mike Silver just plays the race card in Colin. 438 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: But really we're just you know, they think about this 439 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: all the time. They think it's unfair. I've seen people 440 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: leave the business because they just couldn't take it anymore. 441 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: Good coaches and they know it's unfair. And so I'm 442 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: trying what I get loud about this to speak for that. Yeah, 443 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: let's pivot to a couple of other things, because I 444 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: do think the Brian Floy's NFL lawsuit is worth about 445 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: seventy five percent of this podcast. I said this about 446 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: Jim Harbart of the Vikings. I think Jim's great and 447 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: I'd hire him. It feels a little scorched earth to 448 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: leave Michigan. Now they would be forced to hire thirty 449 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: eight year old Josh Gaddis, who would then have to 450 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: hire two coordinators out of the hiring cycle, like the 451 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: good guys are gone. Make a time, Mike Tomlin. Sorry, 452 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: so there is a rumor that a current NFL coach 453 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: would want that job, And I'll just leave it at that. 454 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: But let's let's I'll let you continue your very well 455 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: crafted question. I think Harbaugh's great. He was asked to 456 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: take a paycut. He's sort of toying with him. They 457 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: just lost their defensive coordinator, now the offensive coordinator. If 458 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: he leaves is the head coach. They need two new coordinators. 459 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: They would lose in the transfer portal days, multiple recruits. 460 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's a great job because in 461 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: a year you're looking for a new quarterback. I think 462 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: actually Harbaugh can do better. And I do think it 463 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: would be scorked earth to your alma mater, which is 464 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: just to me. He's fifty eight, he's got a long 465 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: tarmac leaven a year, and you know a quarter of 466 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: the league fires their coaches every year. Next year, the Colts, 467 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: the Seahawks, and the Cowboys could have coaching openings, right. So, yes, 468 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: so there's a lot of really intriguing openings in a 469 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: year this year. I don't love the openings that said 470 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: he's got a connection to the GM. What is your 471 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: Mike silver radar saying in a Vikings job. I've done 472 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: some reporting on this colin as far as Michigan. You know, 473 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: they kind of squeezed him after last year and they 474 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: were in a position too. I believe they made him 475 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: take less favorable contract terms and or less money, and 476 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: he took it. And look, it is his all the monitor. 477 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: He's been frustrated by losing Ohio State all those years 478 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: and not getting them over the hub. So my report 479 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: tells me that he now did something after that, after 480 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: getting squeezed, that was better. He beat Ohio State, he 481 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: got into the final four, it was a big thing. 482 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: I don't think he's that worried about their feelings right now, 483 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: and if at the very least maybe he wants to 484 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: make it hurt a little bit, will he actually leave, 485 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, but he certainly is eager to speak 486 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: to NFL teams right away and he's not hiding that. 487 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: And the defensive coordinator did leave, so you know, I don't. 488 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: I can't tell you the psyche of a maniacally competitive 489 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: person every single time, because they think on a dark 490 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: and you know, distorted level that makes them great many 491 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: times that Jim Harbot is great at it. But my 492 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: reporting tells me that there's something going on there where 493 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: he thinks they did something to him, and now he's 494 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: at least doing something to them. So we'll see, and 495 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, I also wonder about Miami because I think 496 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel is a great candidate and may very very 497 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: well get that job, and it would be awesome. And 498 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: he's bi racial, by the way, that would be cool. 499 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: Um forty and ires offensive coordinator. On the other hand, 500 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: Steve Ross put himself in a box and said, I'm 501 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: a Michigan alum him. I'm not taking Jim Harbout from Michigan. 502 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: But what if Jim Harbout tells Steve Ross, I'm not 503 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm not into Michigan man. You know, I love it. 504 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: It's our alma mater, but that that ship is sailed. 505 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: Ross then defensively have that conversation with himself where he says, uh, 506 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not taking them. I know I could 507 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: explain that kind of Jim Barbout just came to me. 508 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: It was like really interested, and you know what, I 509 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: want to win the super Bowl and you know I'm 510 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: pretty old, So I would keep an eye on that. 511 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: I think the most likely fagas he stays a Bisigan 512 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: another year, although that's a hard year because you got 513 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: a recruit of that year and you gotta you know, 514 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: compete in that year. Let's segue to your Jimmy Garoppolo 515 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: interview and article, which I thought was outstanding. I raised 516 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: this question. Garoppolo will not fetch multiple ones on the 517 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: market because of his injury history, but he could fetch 518 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: a one. There's somebody, perhaps a playoff level team a 519 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh that doesn't have a great pick, has a pretty 520 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: damn good roster. They've got their running back, their tight end, 521 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: their receivers. I mean in the box, it's formidable. I 522 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: could see Pittsburgh saying we're gonna do a two year 523 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: deal with Garoppolo, will give you one, and we're still 524 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: gonna look for somebody or keep Dwayne Haskins because like Garoppolo, 525 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: he can move, but he's not mobile good enough arm. 526 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: He feels like to me, Dwayne a really solid backup. 527 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: If you had to play him for a game, you 528 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: could win it. But you're not going to build around him. 529 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: But Washington, Ron Rivera can't go into a season with 530 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpacker Rick and Taylor Heineke Tampa. They want to 531 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: win games. Garoppolo brings some Brady sauce. He knows the system. 532 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: I your takeaway on the Transactional League more than ever 533 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: you're kind of takeaway teams are given up first round 534 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: picks now and winning a lot. I could see somebody 535 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: given up a number one pick for Jimmy. Yeah, it's 536 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: gonna really depend on the market. First of all, this 537 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: is before everybody has lathered themselves up about the six 538 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: guys whore at the Senior Bowl right now, and we're 539 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: going to start hearing teams think more highly of them 540 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: than than they do right now. Yeah. So that's there's 541 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: six of them, and they all have a reason why 542 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: you wouldn't spend a high pick on them, but you know, 543 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 1: most of them have a reason why you might, and 544 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: so I think that will change. We're gonna see if 545 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: Rogers and Wilson are really in play. We're gonna see 546 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: if Car is really in play. I think probably not, 547 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: based on my conversations. I think Dave Ziggler or Josh 548 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: McDaniels are Car fans, and that will probably work itself 549 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: out on that. We'll see Washington, I believe his big 550 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: game hunting by the way, I think, you know, they 551 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: got to do something. But but Ryan Fitzpatrick kind of 552 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: was the Jimmy garoppolo solution, like he could get hurt 553 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: because he's old, but he's pretty good when he's in. 554 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: I don't think you do that again. I think you 555 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: either go big game hunting and if you if you 556 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: lose out, you draft someone you've got the eleventh pick, 557 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: and you try to do it that way. So listen. 558 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: I wrote about Jimmy for Valley Sports. I'm really proud 559 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: of the article. I'm a big fan of him as 560 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: a person. I think he gets I think he gets 561 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: overly maligned as a player. He told me he opened 562 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: up about just how much pain he's been in playing 563 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: through that thumb injury, and it's a weird dichotomy Colin, 564 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: and that this is why I've kind of been fascinated 565 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: with Jimmy's He gets pummeled on social media and brutalized 566 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: and in the media, but in that locker room, he 567 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: is loved, beloved, and he's not trying to be something 568 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: he's not. He's loved for who he is. And you know, 569 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: I just thought it was a really cool story to 570 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: see him under the specter of replacement all year and 571 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 1: elimination from the first or the end of the season 572 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: with the Rams, you know, down seventeen, nothing on and 573 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: just see the way that he performed off the field 574 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: and on the field in those circumstances with a really 575 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 1: really you know, legit injury, and he got really close 576 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: and you know, we had a really cool emotional conversation, uh, 577 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, right before he left the stadium. And I 578 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: think if he stays healthy, he has a chance to 579 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: do something good. It could he could get a one, 580 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: because the market's gonna be weird. But my only skepticism, Colin, 581 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: is that I think there's six guys that are going 582 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: to get pushed a little bit higher and everyone in 583 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: sub team's minds, and that may convolute it a little bit. 584 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: Then there aren't as many chairs. Yeah, my guess is 585 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: it's a two or a late one. It'll be better 586 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: than a third, just because of the desperation. But you 587 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: get a two back like something, you know, that kind 588 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: of thing, or you get a three back that kind 589 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: of thing. All right, Mike silver Garoppolo interview. Read it 590 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: for Balle's it's really special. The Jim Harbaugh insight and 591 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: Brian Flores as well. You've got to take a flight 592 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: somewhere important. Good to seeing anybody, Thanks Colin, and look 593 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: forward to seeing you in person. Verse all right, go 594 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: to YouTube at the volume. At the volume sports YouTube Subscribe. 595 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: Think you'll like it, Push that little button. 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