1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: Oh, it is a Wednesday. There is a lot to 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: talk about. We've got ourselves a real world series. Michael 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: Jordan hammering current NBA stars. The Steelers are officially broken 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: and the Chiefs have fixed all their problems. Again, it 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: is Wednesday. This is the Herd in Chicago. Wherever you 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for 14 00:00:54,040 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: making us part of your day. Well, Jmac like the 15 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: Dodgers in six and one of the reasons we said 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: we like the Dodgers in a long series is Toronto 17 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: gets bat on ball, so they got a lot of 18 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: power hitters. Their guys are all hitting and the Dodgers 19 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: guys are not. And last night was another example, so 20 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: we said, going in the Toronto Blue Jays, gut check 21 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: win for them. That's why they're in the World Series. 22 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: We didn't know if they were going to be on fumes. 23 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: They are a big inning team. Nine times in the 24 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: playoffs they've scored four or more runs in an inning. 25 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: That's three times more than the Dodgers. And they dropped 26 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: a four spot in the seventh inning. So oh, Tani 27 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: was fine. He made in the first couple innings, shoe 28 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: Hey Otani made Toronto batters look really bad. He mostly 29 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: had his stuff. Shoe Hey was sharp, six hittings, gave 30 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: up six hits. He was fine. Now Vlad Guerrero, and 31 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: you know this is gonna happen. Vlad Guerrero was eventually 32 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: going to break out of it, and he did. Vlad's 33 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: hitting four nineteen in the playoffs. So when you hang 34 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: one up near his belt, He's gonna do that and 35 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: park it at Dodger Stadium. But here's a Dodger dilemma. 36 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: There are six players in the World Series that are 37 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: hitting three hundred or better six five or Blue Jays, 38 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: Addison Barger hitting four to twenty nine, Vlad hitting four, Bobashett, 39 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: Alejandro Kirk, Ernie Clement. I mean, there's sho Hao Tani's 40 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: mixed in there. But it is a real problem right now. 41 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: Toronto gets bat on ball, and last night's a prime example. 42 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: Dave Roberts had talked about show Hey bringing down the 43 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: velocity to see if he could last longer, so he 44 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: wasn't quite as dominating, but he left it was two 45 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: to one, and one long after that it was six 46 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: to one. Because this is what Toronto does. They get 47 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: bat on ball, and so you can't ask for everybody 48 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: to throw a complete game. Blake's now goes tonight. But 49 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: the bigger issue is Max Months. He's hitting the buck 50 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: seventy six, Mookie Betts is hitting a bug fifty eight, 51 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: Tommy Edmond great defensive players hitting the buck sixty seven. 52 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: So Freddie Freeman and O Tawny are carrying the offense. 53 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: They're on fire. Everybody else for the Dodgers is on 54 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: sabbatical with a lot of strikeouts, and once again last 55 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: night they stranded eighteen in the other night and one 56 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: last night they were zero for five with runners in 57 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: scoring position. So you just right now the story of 58 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: the series is O Tawny's unbelievable. But the Blue Jays 59 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: have five guys hitting over three hundred and a couple 60 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: at four hundred and above, so they're gonna have to 61 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: tweak that roster, tweet that lineup, the bullpen again. It's 62 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: been spotty, hot and cold. Last night couldn't get outs, 63 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: but it was more about Toronto getting guys on driving 64 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: runs in. Here's Dave Roberts on his struggling offense. 65 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: We haven't found our rhythm. We haven't. It sort of 66 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: draws dead at certain parts of the lineup in different parts, 67 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: different innings, different games. You know, guys are competing. Certainly 68 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: in the postseason, you're seeing everyone's best. But yeah, you know, 69 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 3: my hope is we regroup tomorrow. 70 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: Well, good luck Blake Snell goes tonight and then we're 71 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: gonna get two games, one minimum in Canada. But last 72 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: night was the Jays night and Otani was fine. He 73 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: was pretty sharp, but at some point Vlad was going 74 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: to break pitch up in the strike zone. He did, 75 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: and the ball got rolling. 76 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 4: All right. 77 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: So the NFL is pretty cruel when it comes to coaches. 78 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it feels like Greg Popovich coach forever in 79 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: San Antonio, coaching forever. Steve Kerr's got a job as 80 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: long as he wants it. But in the NFL, Andy 81 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: Reid got fired. Bill Belichick got fired, Cowboys got a 82 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: new owner. Tom Landry got fired. I don't know what 83 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: to do with Pittsburgh, Mike Tomlin. The Steelers are broken, 84 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: but it's the defense that's broken. The Pittsburgh defense for 85 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: the four straight year, is the most expensive in the league. Yesterday, 86 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: trade deadline coming up. They got a safety from the 87 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: new England Patriots, Kyle Duggar. That's not going to solve it. 88 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: When you watch that green Bay game Sunday night, football, man, 89 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: is it apparent green Bay is a very progressive, smart 90 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: and current franchise. Aaron Rodgers is keeping them afloat. Actually, 91 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 1: the Steelers are averaging five point four yards of play. 92 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: That's good. I looked this morning, top three red zone offense, 93 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: yards per play, red zone turnovers. Aaron rodgers influence has 94 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: been really, really impressive. He's having a sneaky year. He's 95 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: not throwing the ball deep downfield. Aaron's done his part. 96 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: But right now, that defense. You can't pay the most 97 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: for something and get lousy production. That's how TV shows 98 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: get canceled. That's the Steelers four straight year highest paid defense, 99 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: and they're bad. It's the worst in Tomlin's era. It's 100 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: like paying eighty bucks a month for a streaming service 101 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: with no hits at some point where they hits. And 102 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: I've said this with Aaron Rodgers. He can be divisive 103 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: and polarizing. He's actually really good. He's not throwing the 104 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: ball down the field. This is not going to be 105 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts down the field to Devonte Smith. It's not 106 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: going to be Matt Stafford down the field to Puka. 107 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: That's not what this offense is. It is. It's not. 108 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: This offense is big, large human beings fifteen yards an end, 109 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: but red zone. That's a quarterback stat too. They're kind 110 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: of good this year. They're kind of good. They don't 111 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: turn the ball over a ton. So what do you 112 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: do with Mike Tomlin. I'm not anti defensive coach, but 113 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: the really good defensive coaches make an impact immediately. Mike 114 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: Frable comes in Patriots twenty second defense. Before Mike got 115 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: their fourth this year, Mike McDonald got to Seattle thirtieth 116 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: to fourteenth. Now they're top ten. I mean, the Rams 117 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: don't spend anything on their defense. Their second it's cheap labor, right, 118 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: so when you have veterans, you're paying them a fortune 119 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: and they're awful. Kyle Duggar is not going to be 120 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: the answer. So I don't know what you do. It 121 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: feels like the Steelers are broken. I've always said I 122 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: judge coaches on their side of the ball. Say what 123 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: you want about Lincoln Riley of USC. The offense is fine. 124 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: You could argue he's not a head coach, he's not 125 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: a culture creator. You'll argue what you want. He gets 126 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: his side. I mean, the Rams offense is almost always good. 127 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: They can take fifth round Pooka, third round, Cooper Cup 128 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: in his prime, four fifth round Kyron Williams, an undrafted 129 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: starting left tackle. Sean McVay is squeezing every bit of 130 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: juice out of that Rams offense. Mid low round guys. 131 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: He'll make them work. They got a seventh round receivers 132 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: already have a touchdown pass this year. But with Mike Tomlin, 133 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: he's good at the podium. But I think the franchise 134 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: is broken. Here's Mike. 135 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: We all have to own it. 136 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 5: Certainly, you start with the schematics, man, because you know 137 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 5: that's the leadership component of it. And certainly we'll be 138 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 5: looking at everything that we're doing, man, because some of 139 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 5: these problems are somewhat repetitive, and we're not getting better 140 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 5: fast enough. 141 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: So the story yesterday they brought in traded a draft pick, 142 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: they brought in a safety from New England to try 143 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: to fix it because they've got injuries, which of course 144 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: everybody in the league has, but great brands can usually 145 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: pivot faster to get it right. But right now they're broken. 146 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: There's a lot going on. You know, Jay Mack, I 147 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: know you love NBA jes see Jannis. Last night, the 148 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: honest last night was unbelievable, And you're sitting there watching 149 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: that game. And as I watched O Tawni in the 150 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: World Series, I watched Giannis and I think it feels 151 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: like Otawni with the Angels. You know, Tani was putting 152 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: up huge numbers with the Angels. But you're like, wouldn't 153 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: it be great if he kept playing in September late 154 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: a team. Yeah. And it's like three first round exits 155 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: in a row for Milwaukee and and and the Bucks 156 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: have tried, by the way, I mean they they they're 157 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: gonna be paying Dame Lillard's salary some of that for 158 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: five years, and they've exhausted draft capital. It's not like 159 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: Milwaukee didn't win it. Titler hasn't tried, but I've got thoughts. 160 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: I honestly, last night you watched Giannis and it's got 161 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: an o TAWNI feel with the Angels. You're like, oh, 162 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: I feel bad, but it's time to restock the draft 163 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: picks and get some other players. 164 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: You're a mister analogy that that's a good one. 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They got good genetics. 185 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you can't improve the quality of your 186 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: life in your last five or six years, if you know, 187 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: you take your Omega three and eat your salmon and 188 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: your greens. But pro athletes that are hyper athletic or 189 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: depend on that, like a Russell Westbrook or a Cam Newton, 190 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: don't age as well. Like the NBA kde age as well. 191 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: He's get a bucket guy. Steph will age well, Jokis 192 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: will age well, and we'll see. Yannis is fascinating. He's 193 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: gonna be thirty one here in like a week or so. 194 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: And there have been trade rumors for years with Yannis, 195 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: and my take is he's going to age quickly because 196 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: his game is predicated on he can't shoot, he's not 197 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: a shooter. It's gonna be predicated on his athletic ability. 198 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: And he's still got three or four great years. 199 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 7: He had. 200 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: He had thirty seven last night they beat the Knicks. 201 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: He's unstoppable, shot like seventy five percent, but he's had 202 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: injuries and I don't think he'll age particularly well. And 203 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: Milwaukee three straight first round exits. That's in the East, 204 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: they're a mile They're a borderline playoff team in the 205 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 1: West with the Honis, So that tells you at Giannis 206 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: and everything else, it's got you know, I said this 207 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: for years with Mike Trout. I don't care what the 208 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: market size is. There are I want to see great 209 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: with great, Hanks, Spielberg, DiCaprio, Scorsese, Samuel L. Jackson, Tarantino, 210 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: I want great on great. You're seeing it now, Dodgers, 211 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: great organization, O Tawny. It feels different. Mahomes Reed. It's 212 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: not a market sized thing. Kevin Garnett was won an 213 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: MVP in Minnesota. You remember the Celtics. And that's not 214 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: to say that everybody's got to go to a big market. 215 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: I love watching the Packers play. It's not a market 216 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 1: sized thing. Great on Great. Milwaukee took some huge swings. 217 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: Now they don't have draft capital and they're paying Dame 218 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: salary for five years or part of it, and so 219 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: it's like they tried, but they're already viable. 220 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: In the East. 221 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: They are not viable in the East. In the West, 222 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: they're probably a seven seed with the honest who is unbelievable. 223 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: So they've been a very regular season team, but I 224 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: mean last year I think J Mack called it like 225 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: one and done, not competitive, got blown out several times 226 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: first round. So there have been these rumors. And by 227 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,479 Speaker 1: the way, not all rumors are physical. Some are flirting emotionally. 228 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: Giannis is flirting emotionally. There's been a lot of talk 229 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: when stuff gets leaked, when somebody wants it leaked. There's 230 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: been a lot of stories that I think I read 231 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: one of them that there's a direct flight from Newark 232 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: to Greece and he wanted to be closer to the 233 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: airport or something. I don't know. All I know is 234 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: there's rumors he's unbelievable. I would love to see him 235 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: play with ant I would love to see him with 236 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: Aman Thompson and KD. He's not going to the Lakers. 237 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: They don't have enough to give up. I've said before, 238 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,479 Speaker 1: if I was the Warriors, I would give up Kaminga, 239 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: I give up Jimmy Butler. I'd give up four first 240 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: round picks. If I had to give up pods, I'd 241 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: consider it. Here is Yannis, who was amazing last night 242 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: beating the next at home. On the New York trade. 243 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 8: Rumors, I don't I don't even remember that now. I'm like, 244 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 8: I'm sure, but I was sad in my team and 245 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 8: that's it. We beat the Knicks. I didn't read that article. 246 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 8: I tried to still away from all that rumors and 247 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 8: I don't know. You call it speculations and trade and 248 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 8: all this, does it concern me? Won't beat that. I 249 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 8: try to involve myself and try to hold my team 250 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 8: win games. 251 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he feels like he needs to be playing in 252 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: June and late May and not be a first round 253 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: exit guy. I felt, you know, washing him last night. 254 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: There's an o TWI feel, you know, stuff that the 255 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: Angels couldn't be entertaining. But you need better people hitting 256 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: in front of him and behind him in a bigger stage. J. 257 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: Macklin news, No turns. 258 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: This is the Herdline news. 259 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 4: All right, con let's start with some breaking news in 260 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 4: the NFL. Ai didn't hutch It and the Lions have 261 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 4: a new deal. He will become the second highest paid 262 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: pass rusher in the NFL, behind Micah Parsons. The deal 263 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 4: comes with one hundred and forty one million and guaranteed 264 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 4: moolah for Aiden Hutchinson that surpasses Micah's one thirty six. 265 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 4: I mean, that's a little crazy my first thought, Colin. Obviously, 266 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 4: Aiden Hutchinson's great deserves all the money. How are the 267 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 4: Lions affording all these guys? Then keep extending people. I mean, 268 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 4: Jared Goff, you go down the list, well, Amar Ross, 269 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 4: Saint Brown, Montgomery, Jamison Williams, the offensive line. 270 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: The question is because you're they draft so well that 271 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: you know Branch they're not paying Jamier Gibbs, they're not paying. 272 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: They've got stars they're not paying. So a lot of 273 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: it is when you you know Philadelphia has hit. The 274 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: Eagles have hit on a lot of their first and 275 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: second round picks the last three years. So you end 276 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: up having six star players that you're not paying. Yeah, now, 277 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: Philadelphia this offseason had to move off people. But I've 278 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: said before you pay a quarterback and you pay a 279 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: left tackle, you would you have to pay somebody in 280 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: the defensive front. All move off corners, linebackers, safeties, all 281 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: move off wide receivers, quarterback, left tackle, and somebody in 282 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: that front, Like the Rams are gonna pay Jared Verse, 283 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: he's in year two or three, they're gonna pay him 284 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: Hutchison's numbers. 285 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 4: But Colin, look at the scream. Okay, so that's interesting 286 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 4: about the edge rushers outside take away Michael right because 287 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 4: he just got the deal. 288 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: He's on a new team. TJ. 289 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 4: Watt and the Steelers are not really a playoff team. 290 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 4: They're not a contender. Miles Garrett isn't arguably the worst 291 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 4: team in the league. He's frustrated, but he's picking up 292 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 4: five sacks in a game. 293 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: Didn't Hunter is good? 294 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 4: But I don't think the Texans are a contender, Max Crosby. 295 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 4: We know the Raiders stink both they got injuries. Hendrickson, 296 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 4: they're not a playoff team. If you pay your edge 297 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 4: rusher top dollar often you're not really a contender. I 298 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: mean that's what the numbers are saying on the screen. 299 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 4: So maybe you have a point like he's got to 300 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 4: pay offense and. 301 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: Cobble together defense. 302 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: No, I think when I and I've talked to this. 303 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: I talked to this with a generer or a manager 304 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: right now that's in first place, and he said, listen, 305 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: you're going to pay a quarterback in your left tackle, 306 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: and you'd love to pay a weapon. You'll have to 307 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: pay a weapon eventually, somewhere, he said. On defense, stay young, 308 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: fast and as cheap as you can, because defensive players 309 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: get hurt more often. He goes, But if you get 310 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: a guy in the front five, a Max Crosbyro Hutchison 311 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: or a Miles Garrett, pay them. There is no other 312 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett on the market. I'm not trading him up 313 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: on Cleveland. There's just nothing out there like. And it's 314 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: like Aaron Donald. Even when the Rams we're in Saint Lewis. 315 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: We disagree there, you wouldn't trade Miles Garrett. 316 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: No, there's nobody on the market like. So, okay, so 317 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: you're one in seven. What are we doing well that? 318 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: But it's not Miles Garrett's problem. 319 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 7: He's on you. 320 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett's not bringing you three four wins. 321 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 4: To get you respectable to the playoffs. 322 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: But there's nobody in the world that's as good as 323 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: him at that position. You get draft picks thirty percent 324 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: of draft picks in the first round fail. I'm not 325 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: giving up the world's best blank for a seventy percent 326 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: hit rate. 327 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 4: Well, I thought the cow I thought you liked what 328 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 4: the Cowboys got for Michah Parsons. 329 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: In return, Cowboys were different. Cowboys have their quarterback. Cowboys 330 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: are offensively excellent, their defense was bad with Micah. The 331 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: Browns defense is excellent because of Miles Garrett. The Cowboys 332 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: defense was awful with Micah Parsons. So move him, get flexibility, 333 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: and get first round picks. I mean, the Browns already 334 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: have two first round picks. They don't need a third. 335 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: I mean what they need is the world's best pass rush. 336 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 4: Okay, So the Buffalo Bills call the Browns and say, hey, 337 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 4: we'll give you two future ones, and I don't throw 338 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 4: in give us Miles Garrett. 339 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 2: We think he's the missing pick piece. Do you do it? 340 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 2: If you're the Browns. 341 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: They've already got two ones. That's not their need. Their 342 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: need isn't more first round picks. Their need is more 343 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: great players. Right now Cleveland, I mean, Dallas's need was flexibility, 344 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: and Dallas all so smartly because they have a Cleveland 345 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: has to waste those two first round picks, either both 346 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: or one on the quarterback. Dallas has that Dallas is 347 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: in a great position. They can take those ones and 348 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: move down and get more picks. The Browns are going 349 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: to have to use those ones and maybe move up 350 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: exhaust both of them to get the right quarterback. 351 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: So it's interesting because this. 352 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 4: Goes into all to Hutchison for the playoff. 353 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: Game against the Lions. 354 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 4: You have to scheme against Hutchison. He can wreck your game. 355 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 4: Try Michael Parsons, same deal. Kansas City doesn't have that. 356 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 4: Chris Jones is not that guy of the He's not 357 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 4: as young as those two. The Buffalo Bills right now, 358 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 4: they don't have that guy. I mean, hell, the Baltimore 359 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 4: Ravens don't. You could make an argument that Detroit and 360 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 4: green Bay are the two best teams in the NFL. 361 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 4: The Indianapolis Colts, you know, and I know you reference 362 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 4: talking to a first place GM maybe it was Chris Ballard. 363 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: Listen, they don't have a defensive player. You got a 364 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: scheme four? Do they? 365 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: No? 366 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: No, no, And if I'm aware of no no. 367 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: If I'm Indianapolis, I absolutely would give up a first 368 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: round pick for Miles Garrett. So look more than that 369 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: because they oh no, no, no. And I like TJ. 370 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: But he's not Miles right now, right now, Maya, if 371 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: I Indianapolis, I bet you they've called on Miles Garrett. 372 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: I bet you Ballard has The question is Cleveland probably 373 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: wants two first round picks and the coach probably want 374 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: to give up one, and uh, Cleveland could use another receiver. 375 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: We'll give you Pierce, and we'll give you a number 376 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: one pick. You give us Miles Garrett, that's probably what 377 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: that sounds. I would rather give up Pearson. Anthony Richardson. 378 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: The Steelers need a quarterback next year. Anthony Richardson, No, no, no, 379 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: GM thinks that's the answer. 380 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 4: All right, let's move on to Lamar Jackson. It's official. 381 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 4: He's in at quarterback this week for the raven Thursday 382 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 4: night football against Miami. He says every game going forward 383 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 4: is must win. 384 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 9: Coach pretty much touched on that talking about that with 385 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 9: us in the team meeting. You know, each and every 386 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 9: game gonna be like a win, a go home game. 387 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 9: You know, we started off first season ever start off 388 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 9: like this. We're gonna have to just do it all 389 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 9: right now, east In every week. 390 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: They're gonna go on a run. Baby, They're gonna go 391 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: on a run again. 392 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 2: You could get exotic. 393 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 4: I think the Ravens are a great teaser leg I 394 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 4: don't see them losing this game. But I don't necessarily 395 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 4: know that they win by eight or more. I mean, 396 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 4: I think this is a get right spot. Would you 397 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 4: agree for Baltimore? 398 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: Well, I think what I saw this past weekend was 399 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: a lot of favorites winning big, and I see a 400 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,479 Speaker 1: bunch of favorites they're gonna win big again, including Baltimore. Now, 401 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: there are some dogs. I like the Commanders on Monday 402 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: Night against Seattle geting three and a half. I like 403 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: that dog. There are a couple of dogs I like. 404 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: But it feels like ja Matt, you and I talked 405 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: about this last year that the NFL last year, for 406 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: the first time in my life, felt a little like 407 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: the NBA with a bottom like six to seven. Teams 408 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: are unwatchable and not very viable after the first six weeks. 409 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: First six weeks of the NBA or NFL season, the 410 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: bad teams can full right now. I think Chicago Bulls 411 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: are fooling people. But eventually you'll go in a five 412 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: six game losing street to the lack of personnel, and 413 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: you become kind of unwatchable and not a great team. 414 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,239 Speaker 1: Right Yeah. Same in the NFL. This past weekend, you 415 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: saw some defenses look like they quit like they just 416 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: didn't have dudes. And so trade deadline is a chance 417 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: for the good teams to get better and the bad 418 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 1: teams to get worse. Now think about that. That's what 419 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: the trade deadline is. The good teams will give you 420 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: capital to get a better player. So you think Tennessee's bad, 421 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 1: Now you think New Orleans isn't good. Now take out 422 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: Alvin Kamaras. So the gap between good and not good 423 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL last year and this year is starting 424 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: to feel very NBA and I this weekend, I think 425 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: Baltimore cruises tomorrow. 426 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 4: It's interesting because Miami isn't being talked about as a seller, 427 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 4: but maybe they should be. I guess the problem is 428 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 4: we don't know who the GM or the coach are 429 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 4: going to be next year. I think the Jets are 430 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 4: in that category of really rotten team teams, right, the Bengals. 431 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 4: There's a lot of them, right, It's not great. Final story, coin, Let's. 432 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: Go to the Bears. 433 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 4: Chicago Bears tough loss to Tyler Huntley in Baltimore. The 434 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 4: offense was not very good and the penalty problem continues. 435 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 4: Ten different players combined to come in eleven penalties. That 436 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 4: was the seventh time in seven games this season, the 437 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 4: Bears had more penalties than their opponent. Ben Johnson talked 438 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 4: about the penalty woes. 439 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 10: We're on a mission here this week to get this 440 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 10: all cleaned up, and I have complete confidence that will 441 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 10: do that. 442 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: We've talked about it with the players. 443 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 10: We'll certainly make sure that they understand, especially now that 444 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 10: we lost a game and the penalties were a big 445 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 10: culprit as to why we didn't have the success we 446 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 10: wanted to. 447 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, no, you know, it's funny. I talked 448 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: to a Bears fan. I was just one yesterday. I 449 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: talked to one, okay, and he goes, it's very painful 450 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: for us quarterbacks, and I said, it's not all bad news. 451 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: They're good on the opening drive, Roma Dunzey and Caleb 452 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: have a real relationship, and they're getting sacked about half 453 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: as much. It's not doom and gloom. This team is 454 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: better than last year offensively. The downside is they're not 455 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: necessarily great on third down. They don't complete many passes 456 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: like last year, and their operations are clunky with penalties. 457 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: But it's I don't know. I look at this game 458 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: this weekend. I have gone against the Bears the last 459 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: couple of weekends. I like Chicago at Cincinnati. I like Chicago. 460 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 4: Do you want to wait for the injury report because 461 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 4: if they don't have guys in the secondary to cover 462 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 4: Chase and Higgins. 463 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 2: Slacko's gonna torch him. 464 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 4: But I do agree the Bears offense should I mean 465 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 4: the Jets at five hundred yards. 466 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 2: The Bears have a better offensive mind. 467 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: To Ben Johnson, this is I think this is going 468 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: to be. Also, Chicago was pretty and napt offensively, so 469 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: they got to look themselves in the mirror. They're facing 470 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: a team with better personnel. They got a better de 471 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: fenced in Cincinnati. Cincinnati's home field advantage is not a thing. Irrelevant, Yeah, 472 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: it's so. My take is this is a Bears weekend. 473 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: Bears win this weekend by a field goal or more. 474 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 2: Interesting. 475 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: I don't hate it. 476 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 4: I haven't really considered this game because it's just two 477 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 4: rotten teams. 478 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, j Mackle the news. 479 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the 480 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: herd line news. 481 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: So it was interesting. Michael Jordan is part of NBC's 482 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: coverage for the NBA Now and he called out load 483 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: management load management for the uninitiated. Here is when mostly 484 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: star players just decide, I don't want to play, I'm tired. 485 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: I don't like it at all. There's things about the 486 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: NBA I love. Have been Washington since the early seventies. 487 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: I can't stand load management because I grew up in 488 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: a small town three hours from an NBA arena, and 489 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: I got to go to a game about every other year, 490 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: that's what we could afford. And I wanted to see 491 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: Jack Sikma, and I wanted to see downtown Freddie Brown. 492 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: And so you're dry. You know you're driving to the 493 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 1: arena and your stars aren't there. So I don't like it, 494 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: and there's no data to prove that it works. So 495 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: between the nineties and twenty twenty, we went and looked 496 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: the average number of games missed in the nineties by 497 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: star players ten a year. It is balloon to twenty 498 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: four two and a half times, and there is no 499 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: medical benefit. The NBA did studies on it. There is 500 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: no medical benefit on sitting. It's all nonsense. So in 501 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: the NBA media, which in my opinion, tends to be 502 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: too accommodating to star players, won't press players on it. Now, 503 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: Lebron as we show a picture of Lebron, Lebron doesn't 504 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: bother me. Lebron's been carrying the league for fifteen years. 505 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: It's more than Kawi thing. And what I really think 506 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: load management is it's selfish, sort of like what Terry 507 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: Rozier did or Damon Jones or Chauncey Billups. It's selfish 508 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: to do that, throw your teammates under a bus to 509 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: make ten thousand bucks. The basketball culture is a lot 510 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: of me and not a lot of we, and it's 511 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: why the NBA is so popular on Instagram. Instagram is 512 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: a look at me platform and it's wildly popular for 513 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: NBA players. Is it narcissists checking out narcissists? I don't know. 514 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 1: But Adam Silver admitted we are a highlights league and 515 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: what that tells you is the fans are load managing 516 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: NBA viewing. You're not going to commit to us, then 517 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: we won't commit to watching three hour games. And so 518 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: I don't think there's an individual to blame. I mean, 519 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: Greg Popovich was doing this years ago. He didn't like 520 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: the NBA schedule and all the back to backs. But 521 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: I would say, what the irritating part of load management 522 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: to me? Is the All Star break is now longer. 523 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: They are almost no back to backs, so the league 524 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: has been over backwards to extend the All Star break, 525 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: have few back to backs. I'm okay with old guys 526 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: missing games or injury prone guys like mb to miss 527 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: a game. Lebron doesn't want to play back to back, 528 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: bark they didn't want to play back to back end 529 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: of his career. I'll give those guys passes. But young 530 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: stars under thirty three, thirty four? What are we doing here? 531 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: So I and I and I and I. Here's Adam 532 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: Silver recently admitting it's a highlight league. 533 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 11: There's a huge amount of our content that people can 534 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 11: essentially consume for free. I mean this is very much 535 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 11: a highlights based sport. You know, so you know Instagram, TikTok, 536 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 11: you know Twitter, you name it, any service you know 537 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 11: The New York Times for that matter, To the extent 538 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 11: that your content is not behind a paid firewall, there's 539 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 11: an enormous amount of content out there. YouTube by another example. 540 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: Well, I would say there's an enormous amount of content everywhere. 541 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: But be that as it may. David Stern years ago said, 542 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, we're a highlight league, Adam Silver echoed it. 543 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: That's not what bothered me. What bothers me is load management. 544 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: Think about this. There were several Major League Baseball All Stars. 545 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: They play outdoors. You ever been outdoors in Saint Louis 546 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: in the summer, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Cleveland, It's charming. Several 547 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: All Stars played one hundred and sixty two of one 548 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two games. Cal Rawley's a catcher wearing 549 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: what twenty pounds of gear? He played one hundred and 550 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: fifty nine. Okay, Eleven total NBA players played every game 551 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: last year, none of them stars. So you can do it. 552 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: They're just choosing not to. And so Michael Jordan's right, 553 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: there's no medical benefit at all. And what you're noticing 554 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: is the highest paid stars are the ones that don't 555 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: want to play every night. Again, I'll defend Lebron carried 556 00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: the league for fifteen years. He's older at you know, 557 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: I've said before the two groups of people in the NBA. 558 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: I will defend not playing. When you get somebody over 559 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: seven feet, the body's not meant to be seven to three. 560 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: If a Chet Holmgren comes into the league or a 561 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: whimby first couple years. As you're growing and getting strength, 562 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: play fifty five sixty games. Reward the home fans. If 563 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna punish anybody, punish the road fans. Take care 564 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: of the home fans. So I said when Wimby came out, 565 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: seven foot four is hard on the body, like like, 566 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: let's go. I said it Chet Holmgren fifty five sixty five, 567 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: and it maybe tops at seventy two seventy four. It's 568 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: just a different body. Big guys get hurt early, they 569 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: get hurt often. I'll defend those young body types early 570 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: in their career, and then stars that have carried the 571 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: league late. If Steph Curry wants to play seventy two 572 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: not eighty two, I'm okay with it. Just reward Warrior fans. 573 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 574 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 2: and noon Easter not a em Pacific. 575 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 4: Last night, Vlad Junior in the Blue Jays battled back 576 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 4: to tie the World Series at two games apiece. Now 577 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 4: those square off would show Hey and the Dodgers in 578 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 4: a pivotal Game five coverage begins tonight had seven pm 579 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 4: Eastern of four pm Pacific on Fox. 580 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: So J McK and I have a disagreement. 581 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 7: So I. 582 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: Like Michael Jordan's belief, which is just play eighty two games, 583 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: play hard, give it everything, steak and potatoes every night, 584 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: literally cards in the back of the plane. 585 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: Burn bright. 586 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: I think I'd rather have the Marlon Brando career, which 587 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: is like seven hits, handful of bombs, not a bunch 588 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: of b level hits. I would rather go big shots 589 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: and quickly be a legend. Your argument with Michael Jordan 590 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: is he should have load managed. 591 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 2: One hundred thousand percent. 592 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 4: Colin, he played thirteen seasons with the Bulls, two with 593 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 4: the Wizards. He only played fifteen seasons. Now we could argue, 594 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 4: hey man, maybe he burned too bright. If he didn't 595 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 4: do eighty two games a year for five straight seasons, 596 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 4: we would have had more, Michael Jordan. Lebron's about to 597 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 4: start whenever he gets healthy. Here, you're twenty three. I 598 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 4: think it's smart to play sixty five seventy games a 599 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 4: season and extend your career by I don't know, seven 600 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 4: eight years. 601 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 2: I mean, Colin, honestly, you. 602 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 4: Would have want more Michael Jordan if it meant hey man, sorry, 603 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 4: you're not playing in November against the expansion Hornets. You know, sorry, 604 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 4: you're sitting out of February back to back. Like that's 605 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 4: just smarter basketball. We're getting more Steph Curry. Steph Curry's 606 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 4: going to have a longer career, I don't know, by 607 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 4: like four or five years than Michael Jordan. 608 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 2: Like that's insane. 609 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 3: You know. 610 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: It's a really interesting because obviously what makes Brady great 611 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: isn't sure talent, it's longevity and production over those years. 612 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: But when people look at you know, a lot of 613 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: people are like, well, Dan Marino or Aaron Rodgers. And 614 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: I've always said that Tom was a lot more talented 615 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: than people give him credit for. His an elite arm, 616 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: elite brain, big strong, drafted by a Major League baseball team. 617 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: Tom was a much better athlete than anybody gave him 618 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: credit for. He just wasn't nimble. He grew up in 619 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: the pocket world, in the pocket era, and he was 620 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: the best pocket quarterback of all time. But it's interesting, 621 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: my take is the greatest legend in the history of 622 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: the Dodgers is Sandy Kofax. Sandy Kofax had like three 623 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: unbelievable years and three other great years. He's the greatest, 624 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: I mean in the Dodgers' history. Of all the Dodgers, 625 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: Kofax is the ultimate legend. He had a very short career. 626 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: I mean, don't even count the Washington years. Basically, Michael 627 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: had just two great three year runs. And he's the 628 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: biggest basketball legend. If you look at the greatest actors, 629 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: it's not about this catalog of performances. What are your 630 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: four best movies? You could even throw in stinkers with Brando. 631 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: So I think in the entertainment space, legends are made 632 00:33:55,160 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: on great not extension. They're not made on volume. They're 633 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: they're they're built on They're built on what were you 634 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: at your best? O Tawney in the last week has 635 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: had two of the greatest games ever by a baseball player. 636 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: If Otawni retired at the end of this season, he 637 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: would still be called He's the greatest baseball player of 638 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: all time. 639 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 4: That's because we never get to see them age and struggle, right, 640 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 4: I mean, they're they're the great pop culture Marilyn Monroe 641 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 4: is a big time legend. James Dean, these guys we 642 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 4: never got to see them in their forties or fifties. 643 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 4: Bit you know, they're in their prime, and that's how 644 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 4: we remember them all. Anybody remembers is Jordan's prime? Do 645 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 4: they remember the Washington Wizards years? Because by the way, 646 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 4: Lebron's flourishing as an All NBA player in his forties, 647 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 4: and the Tom Brady argument kind of kills that. 648 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 2: Like Brady played forever. I mean, there's people who think 649 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 2: Brady could suit up now. 650 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 4: Go out there and get a team into the playoffs 651 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 4: and I don't know, maybe make a run to the 652 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 4: super Bowl, like Lebron is always going to do that. 653 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: And I wish we had more Jordan. I wish he 654 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 2: hadn't quit twice. 655 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: By the way, who's the best running back of all time? 656 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 2: Probably Barry Sanders right. 657 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: Retired at thirty. Sandy Kofax retired at thirty. Now Kofax 658 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: played for twelve years in the Biggs, but he had 659 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: like six great years. The best pitcher, the best running 660 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: back retired at thirty. So by the way, they got 661 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: their pension, they got money, they're still legends, the highlight reel, yeah, everything, 662 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: So you know, I I don't know, I just I 663 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: love Jordan's brand. Was best basketball player ever. Nobody cares 664 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: about the years. I mean, I would argue that there's 665 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: Lebron fatigue right now, Like we're all kind of like, Bro, 666 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,959 Speaker 1: it's it's it's whatever. I mean, it's. 667 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 4: Putting them twenty five to five and five or whatever 668 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 4: the numbers are. 669 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm not disputing it, but he's about seventy percent of 670 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: what he was. What I don't want to see is 671 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: old Lebron. Like this year's team. The owners have already 672 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: made the deals. It's Lucas team. Everybody. 673 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 2: I get that. 674 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 4: What do you mean you don't want to see old Lebron. 675 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 4: Leonel Messi is thriving in MLS right now. Okay, he 676 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 4: just signed a new deal. But the difference yet, he's 677 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 4: a goal a minute. He's different. He has taken the lead. 678 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 4: I mean, he's the best player. When you see him 679 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 4: on the field, he's still unbelievable. Lebron's not a top 680 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 4: five player. I don't mind that he's playing. He's still 681 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 4: very good. I don't want to see him playing in 682 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 4: three years. 683 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to see Lebron in three years. 684 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 7: I like that. 685 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: Now, it's not my decision, go for it. Yeah, I mean, 686 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: by the way, I thought there was a very interesting 687 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: story in the Athletic today. AJ Brown discussing a relationship 688 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts. It's a fascinating article. This thing's not 689 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: gonna work. And AJ Brown's identity in this article is 690 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 1: basically getting the football. He admits his words, he's a loaner, 691 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: struggles to make friends. His words, well, Jalen Hurts is 692 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: a more social animal. AJ Brown is a loaner's it's 693 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: oil and water. They're not adversaries. It's just never gonna blend. 694 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: AJ Brown is a little like Prince. He's never going 695 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,240 Speaker 1: to be part of a band. Remember we are the world. 696 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: He wanted to do his separately, Quincy Jones like, we're 697 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: not going to do that. Like some people are solo artists. 698 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: And I think AJ Brown is that. I mean I 699 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: think he I don't. They'll be a perfect fit with 700 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: maybe any quarterback. But when you read this article, I 701 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: mean think about the Eagles more than any team in 702 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: the league. Are defined by ugly and a collective the 703 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: tush push. Ugly is playing football, but it's really team football. 704 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: Everybody going in one direction. And there's AJ Brown. Last 705 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: week didn't play best offensive performance. So it's interesting when 706 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: you read the article, you know he's largely acknowledging he 707 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: doesn't make friends easily, you know, his dopamine. The article 708 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,240 Speaker 1: says is getting the football in his hands. And it's 709 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: a really interesting article, and he is a really odd fit. 710 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: It is not you don't have to be an enemy 711 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: or an adversary. Some stuff doesn't fit, some personalities don't fit. 712 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: Here's Nick Siriani on kind of hope and the AJ 713 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: Brown thing works itself out. 714 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 7: You know, I've almost forgot about what happened a couple 715 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 7: of weeks ago, you know, just working on ways to 716 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 7: get better. I know he wants to do everything he 717 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 7: can do to get back out there. We're excited to 718 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 7: be able to get him back. You can only you 719 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 7: can only judge things out for your interactions and how 720 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 7: they are in the building. And Age has been great 721 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 7: in the building in my interactions. I'm always in communication 722 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 7: with all our guys, you know, obviously Aj as well, 723 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 7: and so looking forward to one to even get back. 724 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, you know, you have sympathy for him 725 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: reading the article, like his words, he's like I have 726 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: I have. I don't have difficulty. I love some teammates, 727 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: but I don't really make friends. And he's kind of 728 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: a loner, and I mean Philadelphia is one of those teams. 729 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: It's it's I mean, the GM is the most important person. 730 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: It's sort of a I mean when Chip Kelly came 731 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: to Philadelphia, he had a winning record and got fired 732 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: because Chip was doing things his own way. Chip had 733 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 1: his own identity. He was the guy that changed football, 734 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: sped it up. Chip didn't really fit in Philadelphia. He 735 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: won in Philadelphia with B level quarterbacks and see quarterbacks. 736 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: He didn't fit in Philadelphia. Howie Roseman, Philly guy feels 737 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: like Philadelphia. It's very much a collective and AJ is 738 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: kind of a loner. So good article, really interesting, well written. 739 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: The athletic try it out. 740 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 4: Colin, can I ask you on AJ Brown real quick? 741 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 4: So he's been in Philadelphia for four seasons. They've been 742 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 4: to two Super Bowls. Yeah, and he's been All Pro 743 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 4: three times. Everybody's I think it's working. Don't you think 744 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 4: that working? 745 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 1: I think with high maintenance receivers. DK Metcalf was working 746 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: in Seattle. 747 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 4: Well no no, no, no, no no, they didn't get 748 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 4: to know super Bowl no no no. 749 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 1: When he was highly productive and now he's a Steeler 750 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: and Seattle found a new number one who's more of 751 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: a team guy. So everybody's got I mean, there's just 752 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what business it is. DK Metcalf was a 753 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: great Seahawk and then he wasn't. And then they've got 754 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: a new number one guy that is closer in age 755 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: to the rest of his offensive teammates. And so you know, 756 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: green Bay Aaron Rodgers very effective, green Bay worn out 757 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: the welcome. Pat Raleyo has said this coaches had about 758 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: ten years. Then the message, you know, it's it's white noise. 759 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: Players don't listen. Joel Klass around the corner.