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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. It is a beautiful Friday here in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 2: and Mike Tomlin is not ready. He says he knows

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Speaker 2: who he's gonna start, Yeah, but he's not telling anybody.

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Speaker 2: Bet A couple people know more than a couple. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I mean we have some pretty strong hunches. George

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Speaker 2: Pickens talked about it after practice. She said, you know,

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Speaker 2: this is going to be exciting because it's his first start.

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Speaker 2: What's it's Jorg field first start. It's not George's first start.

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Speaker 2: It's Russell Wilson's freakings. Isn't real good at hiding things, apparently,

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Speaker 2: regardless of what it is, whether it's his anguish on

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Speaker 2: the sideline, his anger issue. Yeah, he just does. No

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Speaker 2: secret safe for that guy.

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Speaker 3: So no, I think you and I have thought all along,

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Speaker 3: all week that this would be the Wilson week. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: I totally get it. It's the move I would make.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to see it as much as anything you

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Speaker 3: know just the fan and me and how much different

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Speaker 3: things look. And again, folks, I still really like Fields.

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Speaker 3: I don't know the why I have to say that

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Speaker 3: all week long, but I still really like Fields.

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Speaker 2: He's done a lot of good things here. But I

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Speaker 2: think Wilson gives a better chance to win. I do too,

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Speaker 2: And this is not going to be an easy game

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Speaker 2: to win. This is This is a good Jets team

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Speaker 2: that has kind of been a little in flux.

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Speaker 3: There's been a lot of games lately where I've said,

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Speaker 3: this is a good time to play the Cowboys or

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Speaker 3: it's a terrible time to play the Jets.

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, I think they're desperate. I think they

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Speaker 2: are desperate. There's no doubt about that, much like the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys were desperate two weeks ago, and I guess the

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Speaker 2: Colts were too, they were in bad shape. But I

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Speaker 2: do think in terms of new coaching staff, yeah, or

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Speaker 2: new not necessarily new coaching staff, shuffling guys having different roles,

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Speaker 2: things of that nature, just getting DeVante Adams into building.

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Speaker 2: You know, as we talked about earlier in the week,

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Speaker 2: with the travel schedule that they've had.

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Speaker 3: I say, I think that's a little odd for an

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Speaker 3: order team too, you know, I mean, to not have

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Speaker 3: a bye after an overseas game is weird, and then

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Speaker 3: it's a short week right after.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it might be a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a hangover. Yeah. So you know, the Jets did play

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Speaker 2: Monday night as well, so you're kind of getting them

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Speaker 2: on a short week and with travel and everything. So

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Speaker 2: in regards to that, it's not a bad time to

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Speaker 2: play the Jets. Well, where I was going with it

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Speaker 2: is the desperation desperation and I'd or rather play them

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Speaker 2: without Adams. Well there's that, there's this week or whatever

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Speaker 2: as opposed to I mean, I'd rather play them this

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Speaker 2: week than next week. That's that's where I was bringing.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to I don't know if I want

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Speaker 2: to play them three weeks from now when the kind

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Speaker 2: of figured everything out. It wouldn't shock me if they

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Speaker 2: do figure things out and become a playoff team. You know,

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Speaker 2: win or loss with this game. But if they lose,

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Speaker 2: they're in a really bad hole. They really are, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, and sometimes that matters in terms of the

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Speaker 2: you know, when you have a good team or what

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Speaker 2: should be a good team in desperation mode, you get

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Speaker 2: their best punchs. Yeah, I mean they definitely have good players. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Are they a good team, I don't know. Are they

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Speaker 3: capable of being a good team on any given Sunday.

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Speaker 3: I absolutely think so. I'm not a huge believer in

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Speaker 3: the interim coach bump or any of that stuff. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think I look at the coach and be like,

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Speaker 3: get them wound up, but game DAYA and the internew coach.

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Speaker 2: Is always somebody who was on staff who was also

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Speaker 2: part of the issue, right right, exactly. You know, you

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Speaker 2: just don't know, you didn't grab Vincent Bardi off the street.

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Speaker 2: You get things ready in a couple days. They couldn't

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Speaker 2: hire Belichick because Belichick wouldn't go to the Jets. He

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Speaker 2: took another shot at them. But oh yeah, you know

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Speaker 3: He's felt that way every step of the way, as

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Speaker 2: But I think they're a really dangerous team. No, there's

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Speaker 2: no doubt they're a dangerous team. But I think the

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Speaker 3: I mean, Tyron Smith has struggled. He's going to be

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Speaker 3: single on whoever it is. Being single against high Smith

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Speaker 3: it's a lot different than being single on Moon, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just night and.

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Speaker 2: Day, different night and day, and you know it's it

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Speaker 2: gets the gang back together with the Steelers pass rushers upfront.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it was a coincidence that the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned this to Alex as we were leaving the

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Speaker 2: locker room last week. I'm like, well, they finally showed

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Speaker 2: they could win a game without you. They were going

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Speaker 2: to Yeah, you know, yeah, no doubt. I mean, Watt's

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Speaker 2: extremely hard to play for, but he's all play against,

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Speaker 2: but he's always going to get massive amounts of attention. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you need the compliment. I don't think it's a coincidence

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Speaker 2: either that you know that the last two games they

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Speaker 3: You need one, and TG doesn't have a sack in

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Speaker 3: those two games. Absolutely because all and you can still

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Speaker 3: beat the Raiders that way, Yeah, I mean you really can't, because.

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Speaker 2: They had the he had to designate three guys to

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Speaker 2: stop teaching what and that's what it was. It was

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Speaker 2: three freaking guys every play and then Colton Miller versus

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Speaker 2: Moon or whoever they have the right outside linebacker is

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Speaker 2: one of the matchups that absolutely favored Vegas. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: we talked about it last week, and so now you

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Speaker 2: got to pick your poison with this, with this Steelers

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Speaker 2: pass rush. And I know that. You know, Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: is getting the ball out the second fastest of any

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Speaker 2: but he's still been sacked eleven times the last three

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Speaker 2: I don't think he e aides it as well as

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Speaker 2: still getting hit and sacked that much. It's a bad

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Speaker 2: typically doesn't line up. Yeah, it's a bad sign.

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Speaker 3: It absolutely is. And I think this will be as

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Speaker 3: good a pass rush as he sees. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: And they both had Steelers one and I one. Hundred agree.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm including Watt Hismith of course. Defensive front,

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Speaker 3: I think that's the best one you'll see in the league.

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Speaker 2: And I think Priest Hall's a handful. Yes, but I

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Speaker 2: think the Steelers run defense with all those guys on

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Speaker 2: the field is much obviously much better than it is

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Speaker 2: without them, because I think high Smith and Watt are

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Speaker 3: It might be better than what he does in the

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Speaker 3: doing an A AR and a plus. Basically, Cam's been unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: The d line as a whole has been quite good.

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Speaker 2: I think the linebackers are going to yesterday three of

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Speaker 2: the top five run defenders in the league according to

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Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus. Yeah are Steelers Watt high Smith for sure.

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Speaker 2: Who's who was the other? It was? It was what

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Speaker 2: Hayward and Hayward and Landon Roberts and Roberts. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that makes sense too. He is a thumper. I just

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Speaker 2: wanted you know, how much is a Landon Roberts on

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think it matters much. But

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Speaker 3: I just read five minutes ago that Mike Williams is

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Speaker 3: going to play. He is back at practice today. Now

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's even the three. I assume

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Speaker 2: They just want to show him off for the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Maybe them run a few sprints and leave him here.

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Speaker 2: But what you going warm up and then you can

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Speaker 2: go over the other sideline and we'll consummate that trade.

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Speaker 2: We just didn't want you playing against us, right right.

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Speaker 2: It was just you can hang out and you know,

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Speaker 2: go to that locker room when you're done. But I

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Speaker 2: do think you see three receivers on the field a lot.

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Speaker 2: I do too, I mean Adams and Wilson and whoever

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Speaker 2: this up today because I've been wondering about this all week.

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Speaker 2: So thus far this season, DeVante Adams thirty eight snaps

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Speaker 2: years ago, one hundred and ninety four snaps in the slot,

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Speaker 2: three hundred and eighty eight on the outside, they'll move

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Speaker 2: him around. Yeah. Yeah. Wilson this year eighty seven snaps

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Speaker 2: so about yeah, yeah, you know, two to one, two

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Speaker 2: I mean, if there's a matchup they like, or they

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Speaker 2: want to get this guy on Bishop or whoever, they're

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Speaker 2: very capable of doing that. I wonder.

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Speaker 3: I mean, of course Adams can do it. I mean

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Speaker 3: we've seen countless times in his career where he could

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Speaker 3: do it. But I just wonder if he knows enough

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Speaker 3: to move around. I mean, he might always be the

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Speaker 3: left outside receiver this week.

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Speaker 2: Potentially, Yeah, you know, who knows. But they're going to

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Speaker 2: try to use him. I wouldn't be surprised, you know,

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Speaker 2: to see Aaron Rodgers try to force feed him. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know at times, including in the red zone. Oh

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Speaker 2: and I would think contest to catch balls backshoal you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna put it up there. I trust you, I

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Speaker 2: love you. Go make a play, you know, all right?

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Speaker 2: And again sometimes this season we've seen Rogers is uh,

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Speaker 2: his mind has written checks that his body can't cash anymore. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: not like they used to, not like these two. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he will force things a little more.

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Speaker 3: And doesn't have quite as much zip or quite as

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Speaker 3: much extend play certainly not as much extend play capabilities.

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Speaker 2: And he isn't bashful. He's not He's never has been. No.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the day he starts turning down throws, I

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Speaker 3: bet he's like, I'm done with this game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go host Jeopardy. But the five interceptions this season,

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Speaker 2: you know already. I mean he's had seasons where he

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Speaker 2: didn't throw five interceptions. I mean he has.

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Speaker 3: I think he went like twenty some games in a

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, he's just been one of the most

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Speaker 2: and some of it's the receivers. And he's not been

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Speaker 2: shy about throwing receivers under the bus and offensive lineman

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio, and welcome back. I am Dale. He is

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Speaker 2: the Justin Miller as we are every Friday by Missy Matthews,

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Speaker 2: Steelers sideline reporter and Missy. That crowd last week in

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Speaker 2: Vegas might have been the most pro Steeler roadue crowd

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Speaker 3: It's about the worst kept secret going. But it sure

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Speaker 2: Missy. It seems like there's a huge disconnect between the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we get a lot of blowback if you know

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, maybe because we've been tormented

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and I think everybody loves a good

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Speaker 2: Again. That's the thing we've seen him in previous situations

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Speaker 3: that they put a ton on his plate. He's the

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Speaker 3: green Dot guy. He's out there every snap learning a

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Speaker 3: new system, communicating to others. But he's really turned a

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Speaker 3: corner for me and now I think he's a strength

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Speaker 3: to the defense. What's his demeanor like on game day?

436
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Speaker 3: Have you seen a difference in him since the early

437
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Speaker 3: part of the season. What kind of communicator is he?

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Speaker 3: Give us some Queen updates?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think that he has been the same throughout.

440
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Speaker 4: I think maybe it's just so he's more comfortable. I mean,

441
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Speaker 4: he knew when he signed here what the magnitude of

442
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Speaker 4: the deal was that he signed and what it meant

443
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Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh who was not big shoppers and free agency.

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Speaker 4: I think also, as you said, it's almost getting used

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Speaker 4: to the communication. Not that he wasn't that was handed

446
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Speaker 4: to him day one. But then I think too, you know,

447
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Speaker 4: there were some moving parts with various positions, and that

448
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 4: sometimes plays into it, but I think he took it

449
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Speaker 4: personally when everybody was talking about the communication breakdowns on

450
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Speaker 4: the defense between you know, the front and the back

451
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Speaker 4: and how things were just those splash plays, those chunk

452
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Speaker 4: plays that were happening and everyone's looking around like, wait,

453
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Speaker 4: who had that guy? How did that happen, and I

454
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Speaker 4: think he just has that fierce mentality kind of reminds

455
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Speaker 4: me of TJ. Watt, where like, you know, you step

456
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Speaker 4: between the white lines and you're a different human being.

457
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Speaker 4: And I think he also is just very respected by

458
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Speaker 4: his teammates. And I think, you know, between him, Deshaun

459
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Speaker 4: Elliott and Donkey Jackson, those guys have really started to

460
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Speaker 4: gel and form obviously a ferocious defense when they're on

461
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Speaker 4: point with the TJ. Watts, Makas, Cam Hayward's and the

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Speaker 4: guys that were already there.

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Speaker 2: Well, Missy, we'll get the nineteen seventy four alumni game

464
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Speaker 2: here this weekend as well. With that crew coming in,

465
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Speaker 2: we'll get to see the throwback uniforms. Lots of stuff

466
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Speaker 2: to see there on the field this week. I would

467
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Speaker 2: expect a nice crowd for this one and it should

468
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Speaker 2: be fun.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and the gray face masks. I'm a big

470
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Speaker 4: fan of that. Even in practice they look good.

471
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Speaker 2: I said, somebody need to wear the little Terry Bradshaw

472
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Speaker 2: like the one that just covered his nose like a

473
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Speaker 2: little two little bars. Maybe Boswell could do that.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing people thought that was a good idea.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds like a fine waiting, but maybe for

476
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Speaker 4: warm up dark for warm up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, our guest has been Missy Matthew, Steelers sideline reporter. Missy,

478
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Speaker 2: we'll see you at the game on Are you doing

479
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Speaker 2: the alumni dinner? On doing anything for that?

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Speaker 4: I nope, I wasn't invited to that, but I will

481
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Speaker 4: be there on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you Sunday then. It should be a fun

483
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Speaker 2: night and enjoy watching a little football Sunday in the morning,

484
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Speaker 2: in the early afternoon as well.

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Speaker 4: I sure will. All right, guys, we'll see you Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: All right. That's Missy Matthews, a Steeler sideline reporter. He

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Speaker 2: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. We'll be

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Speaker 2: back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and this is the Drive on the Steelers

495
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Speaker 2: Audio Network. And Matt, we have an injury report here

496
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Speaker 2: for the Jets. I haven't seen todays. Michael Carter, who

497
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Speaker 2: is their nickel corner, did not practice again today. He

498
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Speaker 2: is out wow for Sunday's game. That's a back issue.

499
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 2: Dj Reid with the groin did not practice again today.

500
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Speaker 2: He's questionable. He ain't playing. Doesn't look like now you

501
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Speaker 2: didn't practice all week long, You're not playing in the

502
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Speaker 2: game on Sunday night.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Conklin, he was limited on Wednesday and Thursday, got

505
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Speaker 2: a full practice in today. He's dealing with a hip issue.

506
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Speaker 2: He's questionable to play, as is linebacker Chez Surrat Uh.

507
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 2: He full participant yesterday and today. He is also listed

508
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Speaker 2: as questionable. No injury designation for Devonte Adams. The hands

509
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Speaker 2: of God have come down and he has been healed. Yes,

510
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 2: he has been healed. Will McDonald with the shoulder injury,

511
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: who's their best pass rusher. He was a full participant today.

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Speaker 2: No injury designation for him. No injury designation from Morgan Moses,

513
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, Tyrone Smith and Mike Williams getting back on

514
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Speaker 2: the football field today.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Not injury related. That was a personal issue for him.

517
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Speaker 2: A personal issue may have been Aaron Rodgers throwing him

518
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Speaker 2: under the bus.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought there was a good chance he was

520
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 3: not going to play this game and get traded before

521
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Speaker 3: I could still have I.

522
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Speaker 2: Mean he could, they could just he could just be

523
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Speaker 2: inactive and yeah, yeah they trade him. But you know,

524
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Speaker 2: you never know what's going to happen between now and then.

525
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Speaker 2: Maybe somebody gets hurt and walk through and all of

526
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Speaker 2: a sudden, now you need Mike Williams. But the two

527
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Speaker 2: cornerbacks is concerning for the Jets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, real quick on Conklin. I mean, obviously his target

529
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Speaker 3: share is going to go down probably drastically. Oh think, okay, blocker.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you rush him back for this one,

531
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Speaker 3: but he is a quality player. With they're two and

532
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Speaker 3: three corners out when I'm just going to jump to

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Speaker 3: that conclusion, would.

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Speaker 2: You play more eleven? It's not really what the Steelers do.

535
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Speaker 2: It's not. But here's the thing, like, who's who are

536
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Speaker 2: they putting on the field. Even if you put twelve

537
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Speaker 2: out there, they'll probably living Nickel, I would think, So

538
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Speaker 2: that doesn't you're getting a third corner on the field anyways, Yeah,

539
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Speaker 2: I should know that. I don't know if they would

540
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Speaker 2: counter with three safeties. Nickel like a big Nickel. But

541
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Speaker 2: they're down to safety Chucks probably Clark's situation. Yeah. So,

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Speaker 2: I mean that's the second, which is it's it's a

543
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Speaker 2: good secondary, it is health everything. Yeah, i mean they're

544
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Speaker 2: giving up one hundred and forty eight point eight passing

545
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Speaker 2: yards per game. Now, some of that was because you know,

546
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Speaker 2: they played that the Patriots in Denver after our games

547
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Speaker 2: that didn't hurt worst passing games only and bo Nick

548
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: said minus seven yards that was at halftime without being sacked.

549
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: It's amazing. He had minus seven passing yards in a

550
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Speaker 2: half until last night. Seven completion, the worst passing game

551
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 2: in the league. Really hard to do. But yeah, one

552
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: hundred and forty eight point eight passing yards per game

553
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Speaker 2: that they allow. So, folks, I'm just telling you that

554
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Speaker 2: if the Steelers don't throw for a bunch of yards

555
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 2: this week, it's not necessarily Russell Wilson. It's the Jets defense. Now, again,

556
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Speaker 2: there are some things built in here that you'd think

557
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Speaker 2: that maybe might make that a little bit easier. But

558
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Speaker 2: this is this has been one of the top passing

559
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Speaker 2: defenses in the league. No, yeah, it has been for years.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a very good group. It's a

561
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Speaker 2: very talent the group. They've given up four passing touchdowns. Yeah,

562
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: I remember that too.

563
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Speaker 3: It's pretty earn good again though they are two best covers,

564
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 3: second and third best cover guy are out though, And

565
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Speaker 3: if you do want to get Austin and Jefferson a

566
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Speaker 3: little more involved, and maybe you want to play out

567
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Speaker 3: of eleven or it doesn't mean you can't run the

568
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Speaker 3: ball out of eleven, right, I don't know. I think

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Speaker 3: it'll be interesting mixed with the Clark injury. What personnel's

570
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Speaker 3: groups do you get? I mean, because Friar Muth detaches

571
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,719
Speaker 3: a lot anyway. Yeah, they may look at him as

572
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 3: he's more receiver than blocker, or.

573
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Speaker 2: Maybe that second tight end is Hayward and Russell Wilson

574
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: prew it to new addition loves Connor Hayward. Every time

575
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson talks to the media and he starts talking

576
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 2: about the pass catchers, he starts talking about what a

577
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: smart player Connor Hayward is, what a weapon he could be.

578
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: He was one of the guys that went both times

579
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Speaker 2: with him to to San Diego, to the Okay West

580
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 2: Coast and worked out with him.

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Speaker 3: So I fully realize Hayward's a absolute key special teamer.

582
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 3: I've been a little underwhelmed this year as an offensive contributor,

583
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 3: Like maybe he's just a square peg, round hole type

584
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 3: of guy. But you've talked a lot this week about,

585
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Speaker 3: you know, a quarterback might unleash Austin or Jefferson or

586
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Speaker 3: somebody like that. Maybe Hayward is one of those dudes.

587
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 3: So I actually level the production. Look this up this morning, Matt.

588
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 3: The receivers for the Steelers wide receivers for the Steelers

589
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Speaker 3: not named George Pickens in the first six games, four catches,

590
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 3: three catches, six collection, Yeah, collective as a group six

591
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 3: against the Chargers three catches, five catches, two catches.

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Speaker 2: You're going to see a spike in that. I'm not

593
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: gonna be two. Yeah, it's not going to be two

594
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: these guys. Six or more catches from the other receivers.

595
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: I think is going to become the norm movie. That's

596
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: going to be one of your keys, you think, So, yeah,

597
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: maybe it could be something like that up because again

598
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: and this week that I think that would be critical

599
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Speaker 2: because if Sauce Gardner does happened to travel with George

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Speaker 2: Pickens like we think could happen, I think it'd be

601
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Speaker 2: crazy if he doesn't with these. The only thing is

602
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: he just hasn't done it right right right, They don't.

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00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 2: They haven't asked him to do it since he came

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Speaker 2: into the league.

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Speaker 3: And maybe he said I don't like one side of

606
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Speaker 3: the field. Yeah, like a left tackle right now.

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Speaker 2: And if that's the case, said, I'm lining pick I'm

608
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Speaker 2: lining pickings up on the other side all the time.

609
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm sure he demanded a lot of attention,

610
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: but it's still against lesser players. Yeah, you know, that

611
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 3: would be It's that's the key to I mean, I

612
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Speaker 3: guess their whole secondary interest me.

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Speaker 2: You know, the immediate thing is is sauce travel.

614
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: You know, like I'm probably putting Georgian motion in the

615
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 3: first play and his sauce going with him or not.

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Speaker 3: You know, I want to see it, see it right

617
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Speaker 3: off the bat, and then okay, we're gonna go as

618
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: they always do twelve thirteen eleven with all these different

619
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Speaker 3: tight end combinations.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what they put out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what's our best bet here in

622
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Speaker 3: terms of attacking either their replacement Nickel corner Echols or

623
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Speaker 3: you know, the other outside guy, or are we running

624
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: against Nickel with big people and they haven't adjusted. You

625
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 3: know that's that's gonna be a big key to this

626
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: one too. Yeah, because I do think Chuck Clark's important.

627
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Speaker 2: I do too. I think he's good to get communicated

628
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: to you, and people raved about him in Baltimore, and

629
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Speaker 2: you know he has value as well. I'm not sauce

630
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: Gardner's good, but I'm not going to shy away from

631
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: going after him at times because he's not been a

632
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 2: big interception. Now, some of this interception stuff is because

633
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: he just doesn't give up many catches, but he's not

634
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: been He's more of a past break up guy than

635
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: he is an interceptor. I would treat him more certain.

636
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: I was gonna treat him like certain, is what I

637
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: was about to say. I mean they went after certain

638
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: he did with Pickens. Yeah, I mean I'm not sure

639
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: that I would go after him a ton with Austin

640
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: or Jefferson his two career interceptions. Yeah. Yeah, I mean

641
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: he's a more of a shutdown length type of guy

642
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: than tremendous ball skills deon take it to the house.

643
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: He's more kind of he's more Joey Porter like. Yeah,

644
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: they have a lot of similarity. If you throw him

645
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: the ball directly, yeah, they're gonna pick it off. But

646
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Speaker 2: you know, are they gonna I don't know, baits quarterbacks

647
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Speaker 2: and things like that to I mean, like Dion was

648
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: so good at that. Oh yeah, for some of those guys.

649
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: I mean I saw Woodson do it back in the day.

650
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: You know, just bait the quarterback into a throw. I mean,

651
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: he's just he is a great cover guy. He might

652
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: be the best cover guy in the league. But he's

653
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: not somebody who takes the ball away, not a lot. No,

654
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: And his length is great.

655
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 3: He's got really fluid, oily hips for such a tall,

656
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: angular guy, and he plays hard. I could take her

657
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: leave hard knocks at times. But I really got a

658
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: kick out of watching Wilson and Sauce battle it out

659
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 3: in those camp battles. You can tell their competitiveness and

660
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: respect for each other. I mean, it's a player everybody

661
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: would love to have. But if Pickens had success against retained,

662
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean I can't throw them ball against Sauce.

663
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: The other thing I want to see a lot of

664
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: is I want to see Darnell Washington on Will McDonald's

665
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: side a lot and just beat him up. Yeah. Yeah,

666
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: especially in the run game. I mean he is, he's

667
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty five pounds trying to set the edge.

668
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't have a lot of stand in his pants.

669
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: I mean he push him around, that's all.

670
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: And he's lean and he's built for speed, especially when

671
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: Gardner is on that side of the if he if

672
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: he does have to travel. I want to run at

673
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: both of those guys.

674
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, ask you're saying it's come off the ball

675
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: at almost three hundred pounds tight end. I don't even

676
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 3: know what he's listed at, but i've seen him in

677
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 3: he's at a large human being.

678
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: He might have fifty pounds on McDonald. Yeah, I think

679
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: that's exaggeration at all. And he but he also has

680
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: the quicks to get him. Yeah. Some offensive linemen are

681
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: a little more and I don't know that Broderick Jones

682
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: is that he does have the ability to you know,

683
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: to slide and move. But I want to just beat

684
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: him up. I want to beat him up. He's already

685
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: dealing with a shoulder injury. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna run

686
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: at him, and I want to make their guys a

687
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: little his past rush a little bit too. I want

688
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: to make their guys in the secondary tackle. I would

689
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: like to get him a little slower out of his stance.

690
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: And you can run at Gardener too.

691
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 3: I mean he'll duck his head and you know he's

692
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 3: got long arms and big catching radius, but he's not

693
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 3: super physical in the run game any I don't know

694
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: about the backups, but their other corners didn't love tack.

695
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: They're untested guys. Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. I want

696
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: to test them, no doubt. And again, I think that's

697
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: one of the reasons why you make the quarterback change.

698
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: Here.

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00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: I said to somebody today, you know, if they were

700
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: fully healthy, they being the Jets in their secondary, what

701
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: would a over under have been for passing yards for

702
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: the Steelers in this game? With fields at quarterback? It

703
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: might have been a I mean just a complete let's

704
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 2: just run, let's just run the football. Yeah right, one

705
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: hundred and forty five last week against the Raiders, and

706
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: they have they basically had to manufacture the last thirty

707
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: one of that on a ball. They're already up twenty

708
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: four points and they threw a bomb. The pickings. Yeah yah, yeah,

709
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: it would be low, it would be low. It would

710
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: be very Again, this is a team that gives up

711
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: less than one fifty per game.

712
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: Protection worries me. I mean, especially up the middle with

713
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 3: a new center, and you know, protection absolutely worries me.

714
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 3: So I don't know that you're going to be taking

715
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 3: tons of big, big, long, developing plays deep they will take,

716
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: they'll take, and hopefully they hit him more than they have,

717
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 3: but it'll be more max protect.

718
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: And that max protect into play action and yeah yeah,

719
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 2: yeah at Washington and nausey again, or you know, one

720
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: of these things where you just sell it like you

721
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: sell some of your run plays. You can see the

722
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: play action at a twelve personnel and I think again

723
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: that's why you maybe use a little more twelve personnel.

724
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: You can block it up a little bit better than

725
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith thing too. You know, it's selling run versus

726
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 2: play or run versus past, making it look a lot

727
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 2: like you know at the beginning, so off and off

728
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: play action. Yeah, I expect to see that and you know,

729
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 2: take those shots and make it happen.

730
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I can't wait. I mean, there are some

731
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 3: matchups here that definitely scare me. I think the secondary

732
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 3: situation sauce aside is favorable though, and I do think

733
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 3: he'll be on Pickens a lot, you know, but doesn't

734
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: mean you can't attack the secondary now in multiple ways.

735
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: You know, you could run the ball to it, could

736
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: be a Calvin Austin getting behind somebody that again, maybe

737
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: a double move with Calvin Austin and just let him fly. Yeah,

738
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: go deep. Maybe Jefferson catches four for sixty, you know,

739
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: he's certainly, we just haven't seen it this year. Again,

740
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: it's one of the reasons this. You know, throughout training

741
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: camp I was I was higher on Jefferson, I think

742
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: than the people who hadn't been at training camp. I'm like,

743
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: I've seen them every day catching passes left and right

744
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: against the Steelers defense. And then we get into the

745
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: season and we're six games into this and he has

746
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: eight catches found. Yeah, yeah, he's better than that. He's

747
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: better than any catch player, There's no question about that. Yeah,

748
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: So I think that I think those numbers go up

749
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: and again four, three, six, three, five and two. I think, yeah,

750
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: six moving forward will be your Maybe that's you're over underline, yeah,

751
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 2: you know, because I just think I just think they're

752
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 2: better than that. So we don't know any more. Roman

753
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 2: Wilson News huh No, well we still haven't. We're waiting

754
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: on the Steelers injury report here that should be coming

755
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: out soon. But we'll see. I mean, I'll get in

756
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 2: the top three either way though this week. Yeah, especially

757
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: if prew It's back, that might be even less receiver

758
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 2: out there. Who knows. Yeah, and it just might be

759
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 2: one of these games that he wasn't going to be featured.

760
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: I mean, played what five last week? Right? Yeah, It's

761
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: just it's tough to get on the moving train when

762
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: you're a young guy like that and you miss practices.

763
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 2: Just is it's a mission one practice this week, but

764
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: could be enough for him not to get Oh, there's

765
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: no doubt for Mike. Mike Tomlin has always lived by

766
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 2: that rule with young players. If you miss Friday's practice

767
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: as a young player, you ain't playing. Yeah.

768
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: I have no clue what he did today, but I'm

769
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: just saying, even if he was returned today and missed Thursday,

770
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 3: and I have to give a hat to.

771
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: Prove it, I don't recall seeing him out there today. Okay,

772
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: so let's just put it that way. Yeah. Yeah, So anyways,

773
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Speaker 2: let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson

774
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Speaker 2: I am Dale. Lalla, you're listening to the Drive here

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