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Speaker 1: Boots time to break him in hearing through the wire.

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Speaker 1: I was steering through the fire. I was focused on myself.

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Speaker 1: I'm appear that you admire Dope Knife Lingua Franca. We'll

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Speaker 1: be preaching of the choirs, waiting on reparations. Now the

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Speaker 1: booth can retire. Nigger take chords, swing swords like a showgun.

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Speaker 1: Y'all fair, Now, all hail to the dope one ye yea.

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Speaker 1: Waiting on reprobations, yea, wait in reprobations. Hey, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's good. I'm dope knife Franca and we are

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Speaker 1: waiting on reparation. Well, what good? What's good with you? No?

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Speaker 1: I started to ask you first. I ask you first.

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good, Like I I you know, the

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Speaker 1: going what about you? How was your week? Oh? Also,

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Speaker 1: Just banned this basic banter to bring people together to

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Speaker 1: remember that we made different. Yeah, we may different ideologically

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Speaker 1: Speaking of people with flaws and quirks, Oh boy, Sir,

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Speaker 1: Kanye West is back in the news again, and this

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Speaker 1: That same evening, the Atlanta City Council issued a proclamation

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Speaker 1: Little did she know at a time that Kanye would

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Speaker 1: better because the backlash, because the backlash and came back

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Speaker 1: with something that was like halfway imaginable. I was like, Okay, yeah,

424
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: the numbers were on our side. It's shocking there wasn't

425
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Speaker 1: a slave uprising broad enough to end the institution of

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Speaker 1: slavery the United States at any point, um, but these

427
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: things they have to work in like, you know, it

428
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: can't be like taken in a vacuum. Kanye West making

429
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: these statements on their own is one thing. Kanye West

430
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: making these statements on is like, and then also fucking

431
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Speaker 1: with Candice Owens and then also like two years later

432
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: doing the ship with the GOP Like, all of it

433
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: together just paints like are really kind of like fucked

434
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Speaker 1: up picture to me, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, no,

435
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Speaker 1: And ultimately, I mean with some of the other things

436
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Speaker 1: that we're gonna discuss today as we move on to

437
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Speaker 1: you know, look at some of what he said during

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Speaker 1: its presidential campaign, Like if you take it, I guess

439
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: out of the political context in which we know Kanye

440
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: to be operating, He's fucking what Trump people is hanging

441
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: out with candacel Ones and Ox Jones. If you just

442
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Speaker 1: like look at face value at some of the things

443
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Speaker 1: he said, it's not as crazy as it it could seem.

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Speaker 1: But once you like look at it through the lens

445
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: of oh you are you like we're a maga hat

446
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: and white supremacist and ship like they're it's it's it's uh,

447
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: it's impossible to divorce it from that ideology like you

448
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: have you know. But so like you heard about you

449
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: heard about the ship that they're trying to pass in Texas, right,

450
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: which what and what now the anti critical race theory

451
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: ship where it's like, oh, you can't teach the I

452
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: have a dream speech, and you can't talk about Native

453
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Speaker 1: American genocide. You can't like slavery, can say the KKK

454
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Speaker 1: was bad exactly. You can't more like make a moral

455
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: judgment on like white supremacy and stuff like that. We

456
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: might not know this now, we might not know it

457
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: ten years from now. Somebody way smarter than me will

458
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: have to analyze it and find out how incrementally these

459
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: things affected it. But there's a ton of right wingers

460
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Speaker 1: who like, oh word a famous rich black eye reinforce

461
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: some some like things that I wanted to believe and

462
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: said that slavery was a choice. Yeah, that ship trickles

463
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: down over time. You know what I'm saying, Like people

464
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Speaker 1: believe like people hear that ship. I mean, look, I

465
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: know we want to all believe that. It's like we're

466
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: all like filled with a bunch of like smart people.

467
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: But it's actually a bunch of stupid people with like smartphones,

468
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And like people are susceptible

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Speaker 1: to believing ship that they want to hear. It's just

470
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: the fact we know this. And when you've got the

471
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: Internet and social media just pumping the whole concept of

472
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: disinformation and propaganda and like just giving it like a

473
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Speaker 1: boost of meth. You know what I'm saying. You've you've

474
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: got like that that in turns it's it's two thousand eighteen.

475
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: You've got right wingers being like, oh, that black celebrity

476
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: said slavery was a choice, and then you just fast

477
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: forward three years later and it's like, I think we

478
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: should make that I have a dream speech band. It

479
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: doesn't make that law now, you know all I'm saying.

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00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: It's not it's not insignificant. It does definitely like rebound

481
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: redound in the discourse and get picked up in other

482
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: places where it does serious harm for sure. Um, So

483
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: there's that. And then I was thinking about the anti

484
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Speaker 1: abortion comments he made during his first presidential South Carolina.

485
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Speaker 1: You don't know about in South Carolinas him Okay, so

486
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: he would got out there and he cried and revealed

487
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: that he said my mom saved my life. My dad

488
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Speaker 1: wanted to abort me. My mom saved my life. There

489
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Speaker 1: would be no There would have been no Connie West

490
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Speaker 1: because my dad was too busy. So like talking about

491
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Speaker 1: how he was almost not he he was almost apported,

492
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Speaker 1: and then he continued sobbing, thinking I almost killed my daughter.

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Speaker 1: And he goes into extremely personal detail about his intimate

494
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Speaker 1: conversations with Kim Kardashian about whether or not they were

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Speaker 1: going to pursue parenthood and like have North, Um, did

496
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Speaker 1: you know he was going to do this? No? He

497
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: even said he even said I don't like, I don't

498
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Speaker 1: care if she divorces me. After this speech, like yeah,

499
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: what really that He later apologized to her for saying

500
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Speaker 1: like very very intimate stuff that no one, I think

501
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: they're divorced now, Like right, is that? Okay? I didn't

502
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: hear about this one. What he was like she had

503
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: the abortion pills in her hand and like got real,

504
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: like very deeply personal about their conversations about having North,

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Speaker 1: and so he then went on to propose that she's

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Speaker 1: not cool though, right, I'm sorry, Oh that's not all

507
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Speaker 1: right at all? All right? Word like no, no, no, no, no,

508
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: no no, no no, no, no, no, no, no, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what I mean, I would think that in this climate,

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Speaker 1: some sh like that should have made it only like

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Speaker 1: twenty people in that stadium. Well yeah, so definitely. So

512
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: this is this is this is again an instantiation of

513
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: like the thing I was discussing previously, where it's like, okay,

514
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: so like the media friends, these is like anti abortion comments, which, like,

515
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Speaker 1: I think, as a person, you're totally allowed to like

516
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Speaker 1: feel this way if you want to on an individual level,

517
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: like you know, feeling regret about almost you know, having

518
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Speaker 1: abortion and then you you're glad you didn't or like

519
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: whatever about your own circumstances. You're glad to be alive

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00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: because your parents didn't make that choice, Like you're it's

521
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: you're like, on an individual level, you're absolutely allowed to

522
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Speaker 1: um to feel that way. I wouldn't I wouldn't classify

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Speaker 1: these as anti abortion comments in like a policy sense,

524
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Speaker 1: as much as the personal stance of like this is

525
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: something that he does not agree with. Granted, again, it's

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Speaker 1: within the context of the hanging out with Trump hang

527
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Speaker 1: O Canada's owens. It's a press supposedly a presidential campaign rally,

528
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Speaker 1: and so it's extrapolated to be like, oh, this is

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Speaker 1: a policy nts of yours consider Lauren Hill has that

530
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: same stance, right, Lauren Hill, because Lauren Hills not sucking

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00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: what Steve Bannon and ship you know what I mean

532
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: exactly exactly exactly, So we can take it as a

533
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: personal stance and not as like some fucking plausibly deniable

534
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: political you know. Yeah, and so, especially when you put

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Speaker 1: in the context of so West. So he tells these

536
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: really personal stories about his own debates around parenthood, and

537
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: then he proposed that there should be no more Plan B,

538
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: which sounds really scary, um, but then he's then he

539
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: proposes a Plan A, which is fifty tho dollars per

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Speaker 1: year to help women take care of their child. And uh.

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Speaker 1: He said that it takes a village, no matter how

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Speaker 1: much money you have, and that society has to be

543
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: set up for single mothers to never society has been

544
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: set up for single mothers to never have a village,

545
00:31:53,680 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: which like, is it pretty you know, progressive like release

546
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: of policy. He later went on to say he did

547
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: not support making abortion illegal. He just wanted to offer

548
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: people another option in the form of financial support for

549
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 1: raising their kids and so like I've heard this, I've

550
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: heard an argument very often on the left like if

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00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: you're pro life, then like be pro life after the

552
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: child is born, like make sure they have you know,

553
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: universal pre K and good schools and make sure the

554
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,239
Speaker 1: parents are adequately supported and you know, make sure they

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00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: have healthcare. Dada, da da, and like conservatives generally don't

556
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,239
Speaker 1: want to talk about that parts like we'll have your

557
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: child and then and then you're a welfare queen and

558
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: we hate you and we wish you death and like

559
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, all this crazy shit. Um, but like actually

560
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: saying like if this existed, if like you can get

561
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: fifty dollars a year if you were uh like a

562
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: like a new mother, Like imagine how the abortionery would

563
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: actually drop when people are like, oh, you know what,

564
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: I can maybe handle this, so I'm not gonna be

565
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: like a control and just like oh everything. And he

566
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: says it's bad because I didn't like this and that,

567
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: so yeah, that sounds good. What I will say to that, though.

568
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: You know what I will add to that, though, is

569
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: I want to see him say that to Steve Bannon.

570
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: I want to see Kanye West say that exact position

571
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: to Canada's Owens and see what their reaction is going

572
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: to be, and to see if Kanye holds that same position,

573
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, to see if it stays consistent,

574
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: because like I can definitely picture a Republican politician saying

575
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: that therefore that and getting booed out of the building

576
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: into in today's current Republican climate. So yeah, well, zero

577
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: Republicans voted for the child tax credit that started pinning

578
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: people's bank accounts. JU that is like pretty much like

579
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: a scale down version of what Kanye was talking about

580
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: of like give families a month to you know, by diapers,

581
00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: pay for childcare five animal cracker is whatever for kids,

582
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: so that you know, I mean not so that fewer people.

583
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean obviously the kids are already alive, so that

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00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: it's not like it's factoring in the choice, but it's

585
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: this idea of providing financial supports for families so that

586
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: it's like less, so like the hardship is no longer

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00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: factored in for people that are in that situation that

588
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: he was, you know, or his mom was in. You know.

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00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: I think that if we had stuff like universal pre K,

590
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: if we d had stuff like uh for or like

591
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 1: oh my God like like Medicare for all, like dealing

592
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 1: right now, like, um, I am losing I'm gonna lose

593
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: my current insurance at the end of the month, and

594
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: I'm having a baby on August and so like that

595
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 1: whole thing. I can completely understand why somebody would be like, nope,

596
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: not having kids, not dealing with that ship. Like imagine

597
00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: how expanding all these like oh socialist support to it,

598
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: like would actually get people to like maybe have child

599
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: more children. You know Republicans and Republicans run from that

600
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: ship and they hate that ship. So I mean, like

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00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: I said, I agree with that. I mean I even

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00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: like agree with literally what Kanye was saying, Like if

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00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: there was just I agree with you that, Like yeah,

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00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: if you if you put him in a room with

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00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: Canada's owns and have him say this, they might get

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00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: into a fight. On the flip side, I feel like

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00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: if you put them in a room with Steve Bannon

608
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: and say that, like a lot of these people like

609
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: because you know, the whole like Kanye going to see

610
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: Trump and hanging out in the office and stuff like,

611
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. That was just Oh, let's manipulate him,

612
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: Let's get the photos and let's like and so they'd

613
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: be like, and so you put them in a room

614
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: with Steve Bannon however and see Ben and be like

615
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: uh huh uh huh, fascinating great, And then they snapped

616
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: the pictures and then they be like, Okay, how are

617
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: we going to manipulate Kanye into actually like because I

618
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: don't know, doing some fun for bringing back up that Trump?

619
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Speaker 1: That Trump thing? Is this when you think, can you

620
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: imagine what that moment could have been? Like one of

621
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: the most like, what's the what's the word I'm looking for?

622
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: One of the most outspoken hip hop artists is in

623
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Speaker 1: the Oval office with a current sitting President of the

624
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Speaker 1: United States. All of the world's cameras are, they're watching,

625
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: and you can end you're also you also you're politically

626
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: savvy and media trained, and you've been a celebrity for

627
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: a decade at this point, over a decade. Can you

628
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: imagine what that mode? Can you imagine if that was

629
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Speaker 1: Lingua Franca? What what? What? What would what would Mariah Parker,

630
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Speaker 1: the human behind the artist Lingua Franca, have used to

631
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: to make that moment regardless of whatever you had to

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00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: do to get in there. You know, it's like, you're

633
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: in there, what would you have made that moment as

634
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: opposed to the shucking and jiv in that we saw. Well,

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00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: I can imagine because I've spoken frequently on the preparedness

636
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: for political life that comes with having been a member

637
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: of the hip hop community, particularly with regards to like

638
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: freestyle and like battle it and stuff like that. Like

639
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: sometimes you get into mode where you're like, I'm not

640
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: exactly sure what I'm gonna do what I get in there,

641
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: but I trust myself because you have because you you know,

642
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: you stepped on stage and started ranting or are you

643
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: forgot your lyrics and you free seldom or whatever, and

644
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 1: so I I while like, okay, Kanye's like media train,

645
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah absolutely when in there, which just like I'm not

646
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: sure what I'm about to do, but I got this. Yeah,

647
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: It's only that's the only explanation. It's the only explanation

648
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: for what happened. He wasn't like, oh, let's oh so

649
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: on my agenda at eleven fifteen, we will pivot the

650
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: topic to uh um lithium mining and like he's not

651
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: He's just don't even think I got this, And he

652
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: just wouldn't. I don't even think it has to have

653
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: been that thought out. I just think that like he

654
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: probably could have gotten I don't even know, you know what,

655
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm not even smart enough to articulate it, but I

656
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: just can't imagine that I would have been in that

657
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: situation and that under any circumstances that Donald Trump would

658
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: come out of this smileing just and that and you

659
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: know what, And I'm not even gonna put that on

660
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: like some Trump ship. I don't see myself being in

661
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: a room like that with any sitting American president and

662
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: them coming out of it like thank you guys for

663
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: for putting for for putting me in a meeting with

664
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: that person, like thank thank you guys, like yeah, zip

665
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: tied with a gag in my mouth, like yeah. So

666
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: that that ship is, That's that's the real funny style

667
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: ship right there. That yeah, frankly, alright, So what else,

668
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: Let's get back a little bit more into some of

669
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: his pro life comments. This is the last summer as well?

670
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, so he said that um uh, he

671
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: would ask how to fun plan as per like single mother.

672
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: He suggested that Israel and Africa would the concept and

673
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: build the wall two point I don't know, Yeah, which

674
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: sounds hilarious if you thinking about the United States provides

675
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: Israel with about three point eight billion dollars million military

676
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: aid at least they did in two is probably more now. Um,

677
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: and is also benefits from around eight billion dollars in

678
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 1: American loan gard he's annually. So it's like, okay, once again,

679
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: like he's saying some ship that's kind of off the wall,

680
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: but what if it's real? Pain is back. I can

681
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: absolutely give every expected mother fift so not not missing

682
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: the mark terribly, but again it's like, you know, just

683
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: it's just it's more into the theme of it's like,

684
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: it's not like the dude is like a rambling lunatic

685
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: or anything like that. That's not making any sense on

686
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: anything that he says. You know, it's just taking into

687
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: account all the different pieces and everything. Yeah, but let's

688
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: get into discussion of his discography after the jump. Where

689
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: do we start. We are going to start where we're

690
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: all happened. You know, I think that definitely he was

691
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: making beats for a long time. We all know about

692
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: the well, you know about making sixty beats or six

693
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 1: summers or some ship. Yeah, it was oh yeah, heah

694
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: that line. Um, oh I want to um, oh, it's

695
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: on Spaceships. Yeah, lock yourself in the room doing five

696
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: because the day for three summers different world like three

697
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, I said sixty beats alright, there's no

698
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: one that had the kids that made that deserved that

699
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: made back. Yeah. Oh man, I remember the first time

700
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: I heard that. I was just like, so, we know

701
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 1: he was making music for a long time, but Kanye

702
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: West pretty much jumped into the national spotlight with two

703
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: thousand four albums, College Dropout, Dessert, Somebody Going to Paint

704
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: deserve that break there. I mean he was sort of

705
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: like the in house beat maker for Rockefella for a while,

706
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: working on other people's projects and jay Z Memphis Bleek Crew.

707
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: Apparently it was like, hey, guys, like put me in coach,

708
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: Like can you sign me to be a rapper? And

709
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: they were like whatever, bitch, get back in the dungeon

710
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: and keep making beats. They like, we're not for like years,

711
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: we're not interested in signing him to do his own

712
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: like folding studio album, um, which is I find hilarious

713
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: And I think I think when ultimately like saying that

714
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: about Kanye, his legacy, I mean musically a lot of

715
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: other stuff we will remember about him now as we

716
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: have discussed. But like he like he's a prolific and

717
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: ingenious producer, Like he's not actually that's special of a rapper,

718
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: you know, but like but like, uh, his ingenuitou with beats,

719
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: both in the way that he broke the mold with

720
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: his production around the college dropout era and even still

721
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: how he's like progressing whether you like it or not, um,

722
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: whether you appreciate the way his style has changed over

723
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: the years that it has evolved so much, Like you know,

724
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: he's just been you know, he's just produced up shit.

725
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm usually always like a sucker for rapper producers, and um,

726
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, there was even though I was you know,

727
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: never like super into stuff, there was like a are

728
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: of that that I really dug. That was like, oh man,

729
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: he's like rapping on all the songs and he's making

730
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: the beats and that's that's like really cool and ship.

731
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: But later on Kanye like he embraces is like the

732
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: whole you know, the collaborative music making, like you know,

733
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: that pop music sort of thing. So I kind of

734
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: have to question you know, some of the some of

735
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 1: the moments that I've heard when you said that he's

736
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: really kind of a socio rapper. Like, there's definitely been

737
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: moments that I know, I've heard Kanye as a rapper

738
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: that I felt like, oh man, that was that was

739
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: really fresh. But I also know for a fact that

740
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: I had the prince rights some of this stuff, you

741
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And that he's had writers throughout

742
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: the year. So it's like, I don't know what what

743
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: what of it, Not that it makes it bad, it

744
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: just means no, I don't really funk with it on

745
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: that this came from Kanye sort of vibe. And I'm

746
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: also very skeptical of like people who are already in

747
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: the industry or have ties and like capital back like

748
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: the backing of like music industry capital, like how that

749
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: then allows them to get good at a craft. Like

750
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: there's no doubt in my mind that in the years since,

751
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: I mean, like Beyonce was probably a great singer in

752
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: the Destiny's Child era, but because she's got millions of

753
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: dollars from Columbia Universal whoever behind her, she can afford

754
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: the best She has been able to afford the best

755
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: vocal coaching in the world to get to the pinnacle

756
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: that she is now at same with choreography, like, oh,

757
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: she's an amazing answer. It's like, yeah, if you have

758
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: people paying for the best choreographers in the world and

759
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: the best personal trainers imaginable to ensure that you are

760
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: a great answer, you're gonna become that. And so like

761
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: the fact that Kanye was already in the world of

762
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: music there being a producer and yeah, and afford it afforded,

763
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: the afforded the opportunity to to grow. There's like this

764
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: quote about Einstein, uh, but thinking about like how many

765
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: Einstein's exist, But then like they're they're they're brilliance. It's

766
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: just like you know, they work in that they work

767
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: in a cornfield or they work in a shoe factory

768
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: their whole lives and their brilliance is never allowed to

769
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: If you grow up playing sports and you know, a

770
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: rich country, then it's like you have more opportunity to

771
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: get the best nutrition and the best trading from when

772
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: you're a little kid, as opposed to if you're athletically

773
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: inclined and you're in a village somewhere, then you don't

774
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: get that same coaching and nutrition and you never get

775
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: to develop into the athlete. That you could possibly because

776
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: your circumstances not same exactly. So that's why I don't

777
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: like while like Kanye is to me a so so

778
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: rapper who has moments of brilliance where it's like, oh,

779
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: that was really cool. But I hope so, I hope

780
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: you're at least occasionally able to do some cool ship

781
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: because you're surrounded by all of the like all of this,

782
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: uh you know, creative stimuli and like access to resources

783
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: that you would need to become a good word smith.

784
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily a Racks to Riches story. Yeah, I

785
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: don't feel the same way I sent about him as

786
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: they do as someone like Kendrick or you can't be

787
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: like you dropped your first album after like like the

788
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 1: way the way it's it's presented is almost he dropped

789
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: his first album after years of grinding as the in

790
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 1: house Rockefella producer, Oh my god, how yeah, slaving away

791
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: in the basement of rock before anyone knew who So yeah,

792
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: are you okay after all of those Grammy nominations that

793
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: you received in the dungeons of the Rockefeller studios. But

794
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: we digressed from the album because college dropout was and

795
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: is a classic hip hop album in my opinion, the

796
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: whole aesthetic, the whole like college kids aesthetic. I'm not

797
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: like a gangster like the rest of these guys. I mean,

798
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: you gotta remember this is two years removed from fifty

799
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: cent Taken Over the World. So g Unit gang Rape

800
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: on a little early two thousand's resurgence of gangster rap,

801
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: dip set, all that ship d Block, which I love,

802
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: you know, And then on his personal blog, Kanye said

803
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: that he was most inspired by the myth educational Lauren

804
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: Hill in the production of The College Dropout and listen

805
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: to the album every day while working on the project,

806
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 1: which I think you can hear. You can like totally

807
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: hear when you when you once you know that, you're like,

808
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that makes sense. It definitely sounds like it's

809
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: coming out of that that vein of like you know,

810
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 1: you remember like when a bunch of rappers had sort

811
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: of a tie into like the neo soul sort of

812
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: like thing. I know, this was several years after that,

813
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: but it had that sort of vibe to it where

814
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 1: he was like hanging out with Erka Badoo and Andrea

815
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: three thousand and the Roots, and they all kind of

816
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: seemed like they were part of the same sort of

817
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: click you know what I mean, And so up next

818
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,479
Speaker 1: you had late Registration, which I learned recently. His first

819
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: four albums were meant to be a a tetrology about

820
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: higher education to this college dropout, the registrations graduation. There's

821
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: supposed to be a fourth one UM, also on the

822
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: theme of you know, college of graduating, of of making

823
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: it in the world of higher ed UM. But unfortunately

824
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 1: two thousand seven West mother Donda West, who we mentioned earlier,

825
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: passed away the age um from complications from life possession

826
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: to mammo plastic surgery, which actually then inspired UM a

827
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: law named after her UM signed by then California Governor

828
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: Arnold Schwarzenegger. UM the Donda West Law, which made made

829
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: it mandatory for patients to receive medical clearance through physical

830
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: examination before undergoing elective cosmetic surgery. Your thoughts on late Registration,

831
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I I do see, I do see like

832
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: these first three albums as like uh like a like

833
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: a phase, like a wave, you know, very similarly styled Graduation.

834
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 1: He kind of starts to peel away from the neo

835
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: soul kind of feel of the first two. Did Graduation

836
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: did late registration have gold Digger, Yes it did. Okay, Yeah,

837
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: so so he starts to feeling the start feeling himself

838
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, I don't think I was.

839
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: I don't think I was jumping off of the train.

840
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: Then whichever album, whichever whichever album had the daft punk

841
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: won the bicker Stronger Oh you mean like Stronger Stronger

842
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: was on a graduation Okay, Yeah, see that's when I

843
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: was like, oh so, yeah, so let's actually let's actually

844
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 1: I'd love to get into that because um, with graduation.

845
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: After spending the previous your year touring the world with

846
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: YouTube on their Vertico tour, West became inspired watching Bono

847
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: open the stadium tours every night with like incredible standing

848
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: ovations and started to seek out composing like anthem rap

849
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: songs that could operate more efficiently in large stadium than arenas.

850
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: So like that sound like on Stronger and like some

851
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: songs like that, Like he was he had like had

852
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: a taste of like world fame and was like, I

853
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: need to start making music for this performing in this

854
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 1: particular context and making that audience like what he was doing, yes, exactly,

855
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: just putting it out there. Yeah. Um. You also mentioned

856
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: Um earlier. If it's funny about Graduation. Um they had

857
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: cosiding release dates between Graduation and Curtis. I remember, yeah,

858
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: and I remember they had the publicity over the ideas

859
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: of the sales competition. They had a little pr stunt

860
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: where they were competing to see who would have the

861
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: biggest opening weekend. Fifty was dominating and Kanye was kind

862
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: of the like from a sales perspective, like fifty cent

863
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: was number one, then Kanye West was number two, so

864
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: they kind of I don't know whether they coordinated it

865
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: to drop on the same week, but because their albums

866
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: were dropping on the same week, they played up that

867
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,959
Speaker 1: competition in the public eye. So they were talking about

868
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: it on talk shows, websites, interviews and stuff like that, like,

869
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you guys, watch Curtis is gonna smash Graduation in. Eventually,

870
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: Kanye won that. Eventually, Danny do when that, Yeah, Well,

871
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: they had record breaking sales for both albums. I think

872
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: as a result of the you know, the fabricated feud,

873
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 1: but Kanye did end up winning the winning the fight

874
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: between UM those two. So it was like the battle

875
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: between you know, the prevailing the prevailing UH stereotype I

876
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: guess of like gangs to gangster rap versus this new

877
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: pink polo wearing like uh like suburban tinged like flavor

878
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: that Kanye was bringing like which one, which one? And

879
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: it really he really broke them old and like show

880
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: that all right, even that is only in reputation because

881
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: this is like two thousand eight or nine, and we

882
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: gotta remember the fifties set that that he's competing with

883
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: is pretty much making the same type of music Kanye

884
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: West is baking at this point. I mean, we're talking

885
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: about the album that had AEO technology with Justin to

886
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: like that was that was what was Fifty was pushing

887
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: that that that was that was That's what they were

888
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 1: going up against each other. So it's not like fifty

889
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 1: was pushing the hardcore gainst the street ship against Kanye,

890
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying us. But on a side note,

891
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 1: somebody who was like a fifty fan back then, Fifty

892
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: losing that little competition with Kanye did cause him to

893
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: make a underground album called war Angel that is his Yeah,

894
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: it's his best album. Like he completely just abandoned all

895
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: like commercial ambition for his next project and just like

896
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: a straight up released like an underground like hip hop album,

897
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: hip hop album independently that is like his best work.

898
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: I recommend fifty cents war Angel if you like Damn,

899
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: just learn something new today. Hey, I'm full of useless trivia.

900
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: So this Bring This brings us to his X project

901
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: eight to eight and Heartbreak. Yeah, so he broke off

902
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: from he was gonna do another album in the theme

903
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: of higher ed, but grappling with the death of his mother,

904
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: he decided to take it. You know, it was working

905
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: a more in a dark direction. This was the part

906
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: I think this coincided with when the whole Taylor Swift

907
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: thing happened. Yeah, I did, and so like that come

908
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: out with this album. I was like, I'm done with

909
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: Kanye and like the same for me. For even though

910
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: I kind of like data weights in Heartbreak, it just

911
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 1: like was so different that I was like, man, you're

912
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: slipping for the people who were already off board the

913
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: Kanye trained by the time all the weird Republican Nazi

914
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:43,240
Speaker 1: stuff started happening. This was probably the point where they jumped,

915
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: was that, and it was purely musically. I mean, as well,

916
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: we'll talk about beautiful, dark twisted brought brought some heads

917
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: back in, but a lot of people at you know,

918
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: whether you can say they're closed minded or you know,

919
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: people just like what they like. But a lot of

920
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: people were taken aback by the sharp departure and style

921
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 1: that he went with. There was a lot of auto tune.

922
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: There was very little rapping on eight to eight and

923
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: Heartbreaks and it was it was a lot more about

924
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: melody and you know, and feelings and song song structure

925
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: and stuff. And then we had my beautiful, dark, Twisted Fantasy,

926
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: which I guess is ten years old now, maybe even

927
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: eleven years old. It's messed up. I remember last year

928
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, we're gonna do like a ten

929
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: year retrospective on the album, and then then then in

930
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 1: the coronavirus and so I forgot so eleven years ago

931
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: if darctorst and Fantasy came out, I did I think

932
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: this is the best album personally? Oh yeah, no, I

933
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: think universally claimed as like his probably his best work. Um.

934
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: I think because it's sort of mixes to a degree

935
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: some of his like later experimentation with the soul that

936
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: drew people to Kanye in his early work as well.

937
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: I thought beautiful dark twist of Fantasy was like the

938
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: point that you just that you made earlier about how

939
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: he wanted to start making stuff that would work more

940
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: effectively with stadium stuff after he saw Bono and YouTube. Like,

941
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: to me, I feel like beautiful, dark, twisted Fantasy accomplishes

942
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: that by still being like hip hop as fun. Yeah,

943
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like it's still it's still

944
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: boom bab, it's still like sampling, it's still bars, you

945
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's not like it's not like yeo,

946
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: we gotta have like the massive trumpet horse section, you

947
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: know what I mean to like pump up, pump up,

948
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: like the crowd of sucking. I don't know, I really

949
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: like that album. No, the album is great. I mean

950
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 1: in the closer with the Gil Scott Heron sample from

951
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: his common number one UM, which was a piece of

952
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: spoken words to us the realist about the African American

953
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: experience UM and the idealism of American dream UM like

954
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: where else. Like, as I was going back to the album,

955
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: I was like, there'sn't really political here to discuss. I

956
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: don't think. I mean, there's consumer is UM. There's all

957
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: sorts of things that vaguely touch upon um, just suddenly

958
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: American life and which is touched upon by politics. But

959
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: I thought it's really interesting that you know, this regular

960
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: piece that closed down the album UM. You know, it's

961
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 1: criticized in the nineteen sixteen Revolutionary Youth Movement for failing

962
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: to recognize the more basic needs of the African American community.

963
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: And even though it's edited and reduced down on the

964
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: track which who will Survive in America, just like the

965
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: last track on My Beautiful Dark Twists Fantasy, UM, it's

966
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: still kind of captures this idea of this this persona,

967
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: this African American man who feels caught off from his

968
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: country and his culture UM, which I think is a

969
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: really interesting like knowing what we know today about Kanye UM,

970
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: it's like kind of like weirdly poignant, Like it's like

971
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: it's like an opposite direction of what Guil's got here

972
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: and is talking about, Like Gils got here and is

973
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: talking about like, oh the revel lutionaries. Well, no, I

974
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 1: mean the more I think about it, the more I

975
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: feel like they're both kind of saying similar things in

976
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: different epics and different ways about it. Yeah, So like yeah,

977
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 1: girls got here, and I'm saying like oh, these revolutionary

978
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: people who look up to say Guavara and you know

979
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: who the people like the the Young Lords or whoever

980
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: who are out here like agitating for revolution, like don't

981
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: give a shit about what Africa like black people are

982
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: actually going through during this time. And I mean to

983
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: a lesser degree. I mean, Kanye is fighting you know,

984
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: the neoliberal Democratic Party, but some what we're saying, like

985
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: y'all over there, y'all on the left are like missing

986
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: out on like what we really need um and like

987
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: aren't paying attention to the issues that are actually like

988
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: important in our community and so much it was like

989
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: weirdly poignant on an album that otherwise it's just like

990
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: a banger but pure like pretty purely aesthetic and just

991
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: like fun to listen to. UM, like a really interesting

992
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: way to close it off. It's on brand because it's like,

993
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, Kanye was like a kind of poignant dude,

994
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like not that anyone should

995
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,439
Speaker 1: have been looking to him to like shake their world

996
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: view or anything like that, but it's like up until

997
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: like recent years and always had the are of like,

998
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: all right, that's like a celebrity guy who's doing celebrity stuff.

999
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: But every now and then you hear him saying some ship,

1000
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: was like, oh the funk with that? You know? Yeah? Damn.

1001
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: So this uh brings us to his twenty thirteen album Yesus,

1002
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: which I mean at this point I'm fully fully off

1003
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: the train, but I mean it very much is still

1004
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: for the same musical reasons. It's not quite as out

1005
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: there musically as A to eight in Heartbreaks, but it

1006
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: definitely still kind of felt like a departure from the

1007
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: more um boom bap style that he was going on

1008
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: in Dark Twisted Fantasy, And at this point, for me,

1009
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: I just liked it. I was no longer appreciating the gimmicks. So,

1010
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: you know, he had a run of merged during the

1011
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: the cycle that featured the Confederate flag prominently, and you know,

1012
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: speaking out on the issue, he said, react, how you

1013
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: want an energy, you got get energy. You know. The

1014
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: Confederate flag represented slavery in a way. That's my abstract

1015
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: take on what I know about it. So I made

1016
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: the song New Slaves. I took the Confederate flag and

1017
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: made it my flag. It's my flag. Now, now what

1018
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: are you going to do that? I like wonder what

1019
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: like you can you Confederates would feel about that Kanye

1020
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: was coming to being like yeah, bits my flag. Now

1021
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: I really can't imagine, but I don't think that they

1022
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: would look at it with whether he actually really intends

1023
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: any nuance to it at all. But it's like for them,

1024
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: it's just the co side, you know what I'm saying.

1025
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I guess that for them when they

1026
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: see something going down and it's like, oh, they want

1027
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: to take down the statue of General Lee from some

1028
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: government been building. Man, where are these s jws? I mean,

1029
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: even Kanye says it's not that big deal. It's that

1030
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: big of a deal, and like he likes the Confederate flag,

1031
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: Like they're not they're not reading into this, you know

1032
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They're not that digging into those quotes

1033
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: any further than what it is. And in this day

1034
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: and age when everybody's like worried about their platform or

1035
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: is everybody's like talking about concernative platform and stuff like that,

1036
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: I just gotta feel like somebody with the platform, like Kanye,

1037
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: you know, you can't always be the Mr Magoo of

1038
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: like the sort of stuff where it's like I had

1039
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: no idea what was going on. It's like that man

1040
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: Kanye has a big boy it means a smart person,

1041
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: so he knows what he's doing. Yeah, so let's actually

1042
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: get into the song New Slaves, um, which I think

1043
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: has echoes of some of what he was trying to

1044
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: get at in that quote about slavery being a choice.

1045
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: Four hundred years of slavery. That sounds like a choice

1046
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: to me. Um, let's play a little bit of that

1047
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: real quick, come in please by ally coat, diamond chain.

1048
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: But in the lyrics, you know, he's talking about how

1049
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: um he's he's harkening back to an era where like

1050
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: it's post slavery, but black people were still kind of

1051
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: framed as um or positioned forced into servitude to various

1052
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: kinds you know, picking you know, not just not necessarily

1053
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: packing cotton. Um. He does talk about that, but like,

1054
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: oh you have to be the help um da da

1055
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: da da da doing clothes for other people. Um. And

1056
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Speaker 1: then he gets into like I guess, being controlled by

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01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: material things like oh, you know you want to Bentley

1058
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: if for a coat or diamond chain, all your blacks

1059
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: want the same things. So saying like, you know, once

1060
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: we escaped Jim Crow once we escaped Chattow slavery like

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01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 1: still having this being this enslavement to materialism. I think

1062
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: it's sort of like that found that came up with

1063
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: like yeah, But the thing is, at that time he

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01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: was pushing the materialism exactly. He was like depending on

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01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: people to buy the Confederate flag, teacher, this whole thing,

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01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: this is on the this is this is all during

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01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: the phase where he was going at it with who

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01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: was it, like Gucci or something with with with vers

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01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: with some fashion company because he didn't get like his

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01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: own line of something. And it was like, man, the

1071
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,959
Speaker 1: fashion industry is racist because they won't let Kanye West

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01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: have like his own line of something something. And he

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01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,959
Speaker 1: was just making like I would invented the leather jogging pants.

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01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: You don't remember all of that stuff. Like he was

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01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: like pushing like blatant, like vapid materialism at the same

1076
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: time that these are the points that he was making

1077
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: and songs like the Slaves like literally at the same

1078
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: time the same point in time, I'm sorry, that's all good. Now,

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01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm waiting to the rest of the later recks. And

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01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: it's just like he later goes on, it's like fuck

1081
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: you in your corporation. Yan niggas can't control me. But

1082
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: it's like you work for Nike, they don't work I'm

1083
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: sure in his head he's like, oh they work for me,

1084
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: Like no, NATD like they they they're shareholders. They signed

1085
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: your check. Yeah, they're shareholders around the company. Um and

1086
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I mean there's a lot there's a lot

1087
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: of interesting stuff in here. He talks about the d

1088
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: A teaming up with the c c A. Did you

1089
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: think of the album just in general? I did in general,

1090
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: and it's like I kind of honestly dug this somewhae

1091
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: industrial vibe. I didn't give it too much of a

1092
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: chance of like repeat listens for it to really like

1093
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: thinking for me, Um, but it won't bad. I just

1094
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: like didn't appreciate the gimmicks. I didn't appreciate the Confederate flagship.

1095
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: I did not appreciate the song that. I mean, it

1096
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: was catchy as fun, but I didn't appreciate a song

1097
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: called black skinhead on here, Like none of that ship

1098
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: was cool to me. Um. So I'm like, you know,

1099
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: resist a little bit wow because my morals, I guess

1100
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,439
Speaker 1: I was like, this is Cashy's fun, but I don't

1101
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: can't funk with it. The next project would be a

1102
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: little bit of a spectacle. And I don't even think

1103
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: for any political reasons, but just it was just like

1104
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: a mess of a rollout. His album The Life of Pablo,

1105
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: it was famously like released, and then after it's released,

1106
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: he just kept making changes to it, which I guess

1107
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: strikes a you know, more interesting question for the music

1108
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: industry as a whole. But still the fact remains. You know,

1109
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: album came out and then like two days later you

1110
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: go on iTunes and it has like two more songs

1111
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: added onto it, And then two days later you go

1112
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: by and it was mixed a difference so that it

1113
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: sounds completely you know what I mean. But that was

1114
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: pretty much the story of this one. But it just

1115
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: like his current album Donda, it also had like a

1116
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: lot of high surrounding it with like listening parties and

1117
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: things of that nature. It's the little thing I kind

1118
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: of mixed feelings, but like I appreciate and enjoy about

1119
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: his later discography is the sort of gospel influence. I mean,

1120
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: I grew up around gospel of music. I think gospel

1121
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: music is kind of tight. Frankly, I just think like

1122
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: the core of the chorus, the choral sounding like the

1123
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: like harmonies and things like that. It's like really dope.

1124
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 1: And so, I mean, I, to be honest, did not

1125
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: really I didn't listen to Jesus Is King just because

1126
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: like at this point I had sort of like, I mean,

1127
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: I probably heard it, but like it doesn't pay attention

1128
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: to this point. I was just like yo, yeah, because

1129
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 1: like I said so. On the US charts, the album

1130
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 1: became the first ever to top the Billboard two hundred,

1131
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: top R and B and Hip Hop Albums, Top Rap Albums,

1132
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: Top Christian Albums, and Top Gospel Albums categories all the

1133
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: same time. So yeah, it was a straight up it

1134
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: was a straight up like gospel album. It's just like

1135
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: gospel singing. I mean it's a little it's a little silly,

1136
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 1: like He's got this one almost like um, I'm closed,

1137
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: like oh you my chick fil A we closed on

1138
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: Sunday like stuff like that, where it's kind of goofy

1139
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: and like funny and like a tongue in cheek um

1140
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: hip hop way the way that you know, we just

1141
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: make jokes, make metaphors that are a little you know,

1142
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: I guess a little a little less it's strictly uh

1143
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: reverend in like a gospel kind of way. But no,

1144
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: it's just praising to just Prason Jesus the whole time. Yeah. Yeah,

1145
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: and so I I never really got into it because

1146
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's more so for me what I appreciated

1147
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: about like some of uh, like I guess the life

1148
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: of Pablo. Um, what's that? Um? It combined the sound

1149
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 1: of gospel with like hip hop content when it gets

1150
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: really stract, like as a as like a non religious person,

1151
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 1: and it gets real straight and to like the you know,

1152
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: Halleujah praised the Lord. Chance the rapper kind of started

1153
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: it with that Color and Book album where he was

1154
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: like doing the gospel rap ship and then okay, so

1155
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: you know again, you know, admittedly, maybe I should have

1156
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: done this for preparation for this episode, so bad on

1157
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: me in my journalism skills, but I have not taken

1158
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: the time to listen to Jesus King or really or

1159
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: really you know, I can't say that I'm like eager

1160
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: to hear Donda at all. So yeah, apparently Donda I

1161
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 1: was supposed to come out last Friday. Now it's supposedly

1162
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: dropping August six. He's still working on it. Um. So

1163
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 1: we shall see how it goes. I didn't And that's

1164
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: that's sounding like it's going to be like a gospel

1165
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: and let's see real quick, let's see what people are

1166
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: to say. It's gonna be mad funny when the Small

1167
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: Princess all proceeds for this album go to the stop

1168
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: the steel really, so it sounds like he's gonna be

1169
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: dealing with themes about you know, his a recent divorce. Um,

1170
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna have some continued religious influence akin to Jesus's

1171
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: King and things like that. Um. But yeah, so it

1172
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,600
Speaker 1: may have some of that gospel e sound. One of

1173
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: my friends, uh know, somebody who was at that thing.

1174
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they have COVID now, I probably, but they

1175
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: were just it's the sort of person that you would

1176
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:32,520
Speaker 1: expect to say, oh man, it was a life changing experience.

1177
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: It was so great. This is good. This album is

1178
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 1: gonna change in the world. And YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA YadA.

1179
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 1: So fans are definitely amped over. Yeah, yeah, let them

1180
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: have their fun. It's cool. But yeah, that's it for us.

1181
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: This week will be I guess checking out Donda when

1182
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: it drops August six, just to see or not. I'll

1183
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: probably for guess I'll probably forget augustly so will come

1184
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: and go and I'll be like, oh ship I forgot.

1185
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: I think it's told me when that ship comes on

1186
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 1: regular TV check it out. But what do you say

1187
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: you are? You feel like rapping? Yeah, of course, a Joe,

1188
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: can you drop a beat? Ha ha? Here we go,

1189
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: here we go, ha ha ha, lady rapper. Right, yeah,

1190
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 1: but panty Hole was gonna tad yelling a fashionist life

1191
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: lately as was lashing only half the lights half the light.

1192
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,560
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll drop the album to night maybe golf on

1193
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 1: the grammatically catluss like who knows what kind of state

1194
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: they gave me him for all? Like fucking note you

1195
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: could you be hanging out with Canadians staying in the

1196
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: A again hosted them? But say he's been staying him?

1197
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: What the way to live through? What? You would never

1198
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: explain this ship? You gotta hand it to him that

1199
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: whatever he's got on his mind. And I appreciate a

1200
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: canny human, but when you getting played by Trump and

1201
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 1: Candy songs, you should probably ask yourself, Man, I should

1202
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: plan on going Franca and we are waiting on reparation.

1203
01:09:56,439 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: Hurry up, Kanye, got millions, bro to help me next week.

1204
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 1: Tell me out I'm losing my insurance. Okay, alright, alright,

1205
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: see you next week. Everybody Winning on Reparations is a

1206
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: production of my Heart Radio. For more podcasts on my

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01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 1: Heart Radio, check out the radio app, Apple Podcasts, or

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts.