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Speaker 2: Morning, everybody, It's the j n V. Charlamagne the guy.

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Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests joining.

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Speaker 4: Us today, man legends, trend setters.

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Speaker 1: We got Brandon.

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Speaker 2: Marshall, he's been up here numerous times. And we got

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Speaker 2: the brother Cam Newton. Welcome brother.

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Speaker 4: You did.

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Speaker 5: How you feeling, man? Nothing short of amazing. If I

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Speaker 5: was any better, I'd be a twin.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 6: It's so good to see what y'all are doing. You know, Brandon,

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Speaker 6: you know you were early on with the podcasting What

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Speaker 6: I Am Athlete. Cam, you don't like to call it

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Speaker 6: a podcast. You like to say you got to show

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Speaker 6: the show with Funky with Funky Fridays. How has the

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Speaker 6: transition been from football to media personality, from athletes to personality?

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Speaker 7: So, uh, my transition was smooth. And I mean Cam's

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Speaker 7: one of those guys as well. You know, in the

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Speaker 7: peak of our career, we already started doing what we

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Speaker 7: are doing now. Like my thing was, I wanted my

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Speaker 7: post career to already be solidified, you know in a way,

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Speaker 7: so I spent the entire off season twenty fourteen at

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Speaker 7: Harvard built out a case study on transition, and what

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Speaker 7: came out of that was content and commerce. And so

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Speaker 7: I've been on that path like just trying, you know, succeeding, failing,

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Speaker 7: do some big stuff, you know, some dumb stuff. So

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Speaker 7: like my transition was smooth, Like I started my transition

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Speaker 7: literally when I was having my Pro Bowl days. You know,

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Speaker 7: that's twenty and fourteen. So I always tell younger dudes, like,

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Speaker 7: you look, keep the main thing, the main thing for

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Speaker 7: the first couple of years, and then once you solidify

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Speaker 7: in ball, then you start shadowing people. Then you start

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Speaker 7: reading those books, and then you started before you leave,

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Speaker 7: because when you leave, they don't care.

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Speaker 4: They don't give it.

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Speaker 7: Damn they if I ain't had a media, they don't

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Speaker 7: care about the random marshalls.

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Speaker 1: That's changed though, that's changed.

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Speaker 5: Like what I mean by that is when you say, like,

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Speaker 5: keep the main thing, the main thing, Like you got

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Speaker 5: athletes that's in their prime. That's still keeping media at

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Speaker 5: its forefront. And I said it earlier, it's like going

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Speaker 5: are the days where we needed major networks to get

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Speaker 5: our narrative out and doing it in.

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Speaker 1: A way that I've vowed.

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Speaker 5: And really took, Like I want to be a voice

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Speaker 5: of my people, my kind, and that's bigger than just race.

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Speaker 1: Like, if you feel how I feel, you're my kind.

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Speaker 5: If you can relate to what I relate to, you're

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Speaker 5: my cond And you know, having this platform to be

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Speaker 1: It's like, nah, bro, like that ain't me though, you.

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Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying, Like, like, I know I want

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Speaker 5: to appease to the people in Bankhead just the same

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Speaker 5: can't try to remove that because that's a part of me.

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Speaker 5: So I think now in media, we're in the golden

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Speaker 5: Now we can call bullshit on a lot of people.

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Speaker 5: That's just saying hold on, hold on, hold on. What

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Speaker 5: gives you the right to make that? And I can't,

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Speaker 5: okay you feel this type of way about certain things,

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Speaker 5: but I really did it though I know how Dak

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Speaker 5: Prescott feels I know how you know, Lamar Jackson feels.

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Speaker 5: I went to the Super Bowl. I was a Pro

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Speaker 5: Bowl player. I was all pro. But what you got

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Speaker 5: a journalism degree? So when you when you hold they

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask, you know, how do you

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Speaker 3: To talk about football, to talk about sports, and.

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Speaker 2: A lot of these people never played the sport, right.

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Speaker 2: Most of your brothers been doing this three years old,

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Speaker 2: right over and over again. I got two sons, so

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Speaker 2: I know what the commitment is, even though I don't play.

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Speaker 2: I know it's six days a week game. You know

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Speaker 4: Or no no, no, no, your shit, know your shit.

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Speaker 7: And I got into it with a journalist on my platform,

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Speaker 7: and then you know, I'm like, damn, we built this

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Speaker 7: but also hold them accountable. But it's like we go

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Speaker 7: his third interception. Okay, well tell me about whose folk

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Speaker 7: those interceptions were. Well, the receiver ran a five yard

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Speaker 7: So Dak is dropping back, holding the safety down the middle,

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Speaker 4: Off a trust and the receiver didn't do his job.

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Speaker 7: But we out there on TV and were just saying

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Speaker 7: stuff just to make up stuff and do numbers. And

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Speaker 7: my problem is with the players though, the players that

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Speaker 7: ate that's being lazy. Like, Bro, you sat in them

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Speaker 7: to say, look, I don't know their assignment. I don't

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Speaker 7: We just out there just saying stuff just to say stuff.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes I've never seen you bite your tongue on inside

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Speaker 6: the NFL though, bron.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I feel like that's why I'm always

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Speaker 7: in trouble, was because talking about because it's like, you

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Speaker 7: know what I'm saying you think about and I never

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Speaker 7: forget this when I got to inside the NFL and

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Speaker 7: Showtime did that for ten years, and I'm like, I

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Speaker 7: heard a producer say, like, define your seat, Like what's

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Speaker 4: I'm like my seat, and I was like, oh.

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Speaker 7: Once I understood that, I was like, Oh, my seat

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Speaker 7: is to get a player's perspective, and I'm always gonna

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Speaker 7: do that. So I'm not gonna go out there and

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Speaker 7: say this receiver suck. I'm gonna say, well, from my

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Speaker 6: So Cam, did you ever get those opportunities to be

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Speaker 4: And you just said, fucking I'm gonna do my mold.

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Speaker 5: I challenged my agent, Carlos Fleming at W and ME

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Speaker 5: when I was a rookie prior to me coming into

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Speaker 5: be a sports analyst, and it's your job to make

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Speaker 5: sure that I have enough opportunity when I leave the

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Speaker 5: game of football that I can do.

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Speaker 4: Whatever I want to do.

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Speaker 1: Why Why? Because I knew I didn't want to. I

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Speaker 1: said it. I didn't want to be muzzled.

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Speaker 5: I've always stood on how I felt you know, but

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Speaker 5: every time I say something, people get distracted off.

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Speaker 1: Of why he dressed like that though, but why he

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Speaker 6: Everybody in his room was like, what is Cam going

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Speaker 6: way to the breakfast club today? Everybody was thinking that

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Speaker 1: But they get personal, but they miss the point that

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Speaker 6: Should be clean to me though, I'm not addressing, but

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Speaker 6: like Cam look like he got.

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Speaker 4: His own style going. It's fly.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 5: But this is the thing though, like I never wanted

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Speaker 1: I never wanted to look like y'all niggas.

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Speaker 5: Like respectfully though, like I'm not the dude that's going

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Speaker 1: A shoe release, but there's some disrespect to the people

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Speaker 5: I'm never going to be the person where he's like,

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Speaker 5: oh that's the new collection from I'm not that you know.

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Speaker 5: It was just like bro, first off, we didn't have

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Speaker 1: I pay attention to the details. So the pocket squares,

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Speaker 1: the lapel.

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Speaker 5: Pins, the socks, the watch, the rings, the you know,

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Speaker 5: you got to come out.

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Speaker 1: I ain't glad I do this.

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Speaker 5: Machika hats right now based in Bozeman, Montaigne as well

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Speaker 5: as Venice Beach waiting on.

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Speaker 1: You still ain't send me your size broop.

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Speaker 7: I swear story every time you talk about your brand, bro,

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Speaker 7: I'm like, damn, I still ain't get my hat. He

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Speaker 7: came on our athlete, bro y'all measured my hat my

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Speaker 7: is when you first dropped the line.

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Speaker 5: So you see what you're doing right now. You're holding

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Speaker 5: me accountable and Cam Newton and media right now. That's

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Speaker 5: all I want to do is hold everyone now, I.

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Speaker 7: Ain't hold nobody coming. You missed the play. No, you

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Speaker 7: said you're talking about your brand. We get more about the.

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Speaker 4: Brand, about the Cats brand.

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Speaker 5: Yeahs s h I k a hats and then you

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Speaker 5: know we can make it?

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Speaker 4: Do it?

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Speaker 1: D can?

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Speaker 7: I can I ask a question? I know this is

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Speaker 7: fast club and this y'all show. How y'all doing right?

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Speaker 4: Let's black and Holly favorite. I felt like that. I

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Speaker 4: was like, we have the brothers, but.

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Speaker 7: No, this is a real and you know this is

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Speaker 7: this is I don't know what y'all want to do

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Speaker 7: with it, but how you doing?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing well, you're doing good.

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Speaker 7: I'm doing right, because you know, as athletes and also media,

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Speaker 7: I'm saying, and sometimes we won't have those types of conversations.

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Speaker 4: So I just wanted to ask you how you was doing.

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Speaker 4: It's a huge opportunity for us.

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Speaker 4: And neither neither bro neither. I have to say it's

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Speaker 6: And the reason I have to say it's a combination

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Speaker 4: You out of the gold conversation.

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Speaker 6: As often like people as great as Alan Obinson is

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Speaker 1: You know, big Shop without Robert.

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Speaker 5: Of those field goals, do we really acknowledge Tom Brady

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Speaker 4: Don't know if I think about the championships as much.

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Speaker 6: And I'm not sure if one player impacts NFL team

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Speaker 7: Well, you're right what you're saying, but there is a

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Speaker 5: He can go to the Detroit Pistons and that's going

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Speaker 5: that we never really felt before. You know, since the

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Speaker 5: Joe name is or or let me let me let

441
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 5: me take that back, uh, the Rex Ryan era when

442
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 5: when they were winning, right, like I.

443
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 3: Used to play for the Jets. Now watch your mouth now,

444
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 3: but that the hype.

445
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,359
Speaker 5: That's That's pretty much what I'm saying. So you know,

446
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,919
Speaker 5: when you got guys that have that star power, usually

447
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 5: in football it is the quarterback who's the guy.

448
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 1: You know, you try to draft him.

449
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 5: You you you typically can't go and trade for a

450
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 5: quarterback unless you're giving up the kitchen sink.

451
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:46,439
Speaker 1: Uh. But that's just the the nature of really the sport.

452
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Speaker 6: Now such interact the conversation, because even I think about

453
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Speaker 6: somebody like Peyton Manning, right, did he really have an impact.

454
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,120
Speaker 4: On those rings? He went with the Broncos alutely?

455
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,479
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, what he was able to what was it

456
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Speaker 5: tw and thirteen or fourteen when he had beabey rest

457
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Speaker 5: in peace and those statistics. I think he threw for

458
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:18,640
Speaker 5: like fifty two touchdowns in that one season, call it

459
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 5: whatever you want. And the footballs never had a spiral,

460
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,679
Speaker 5: but they was getting to the destination, you know, with

461
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 5: the tracker on it, you know, know what I'm saying. He

462
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 5: couldn't hand it off better than you know in that spectrum,

463
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 5: but yes, you know he was. He was as elite

464
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Speaker 5: as we've ever seen, so much elite that even with

465
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 5: me acknowledging or describing game changers, there's game changers in media, right,

466
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 5: game changer, game changer. This show is a game changer.

467
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 5: Why because when you have networks to say you are

468
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 5: the compared target, Hey, I don't know what we got

469
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Speaker 5: to do with. We gotta go get us an other

470
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 5: breakfast club. I don't know what we got to do.

471
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 5: We gotta go draft us another Peyton Manning. I don't

472
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 5: know what we We got to find us another Lebron James.

473
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Speaker 6: Even if somebody says this show is better than the

474
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 6: breakfast clubs, the bar, it's that a changer.

475
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 5: A game changer in any commodity is the standard or

476
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Speaker 5: the bar. And when when you're compared to certain things,

477
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Speaker 5: it's not to say that your.

478
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Speaker 1: Show still isn't good. There's shows out there that's still good,

479
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Speaker 1: but they ain't the bar.

480
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Speaker 5: It may be some things that they do good, but

481
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Speaker 5: it's still not like, Okay, let's see how long can

482
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Speaker 5: you do this for me? Like is this just a run?

483
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Speaker 5: You know, just like artists. Like artists come out with

484
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 5: a good album, it's like whoa, that was Flames, and

485
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 5: all of a sudden they dropped a second and third

486
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Speaker 5: and it's like, holdo, but what was it?

487
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Speaker 1: Flame?

488
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 5: Those game changers as musical artists is like, okay, banger

489
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 5: after banger.

490
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Speaker 1: He had a couple slipping slide songs.

491
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Speaker 5: But you know, other than that, these were the ones,

492
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Speaker 5: So doesn't matter what the commodity is. My point is

493
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 5: they're still game changers in that you.

494
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Speaker 4: Would never be a game changer.

495
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Speaker 6: Did your career feel incomplete without a Super Bowl?

496
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: No, that's what people don't understand.

497
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 5: And you could never say that while playing, and that's

498
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Speaker 5: not and that's what we have the capabilities of doing now.

499
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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, how so many people.

500
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Speaker 5: You know have runs or they are dominant players, you know,

501
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 5: and they don't have rings or will never be in

502
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 5: a position to have a ring. When Brandon Marshall never

503
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 5: went to the playoffs, but you don't necessarily know that.

504
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 5: You know him as the dominant football player. And I'm

505
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 5: saying to myself, it's like, well, while he's playing, he

506
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 5: could never say, like, man, I got to do my

507
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 5: best to either be an All Pro or a Pro

508
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 5: Bowl because my team is not good enough for us

509
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 5: to be in a Super Bowl.

510
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Speaker 1: You got fans.

511
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 5: You gotta worry about the deals, you gotta worry about,

512
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 5: the coaches, the continuity you gotta worry about. But it's

513
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 5: it's real information, you.

514
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying. It's like this seat, like we got.

515
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 5: To find somebody that's gonna hold their own like, we

516
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 5: just can't bring out no no regular person like I

517
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 5: need somebody to challenge the greatness of me. I needed

518
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 5: somebody to challenge the great and it gotta it gotta

519
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 5: mesh right.

520
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 1: And if we're.

521
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 5: Able to go viral, if we're able to still do numbers,

522
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 5: and I really ain't got my ship off yet, I

523
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 5: don't worry about it.

524
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Speaker 1: You bringing out the best in me. So next show

525
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Speaker 1: I got you, let.

526
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Speaker 3: Me ask you a question. You know both of you

527
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Speaker 3: guys retired.

528
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: What is your retired?

529
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 3: Have not retired?

530
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Speaker 4: You just said you just said you want to play

531
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Speaker 4: for the Falcons.

532
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: I haven't put to your point.

533
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 3: So you do want to play football again?

534
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 1: The right opportunity the Falcons?

535
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 4: You said, that's the only team a couple.

536
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 5: I got kids, Bro, would you take another job outside

537
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 5: of New York?

538
00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: Probably not outside of New York.

539
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 5: I'm saying it's like, Bro, I got soon to be

540
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 5: eight kids. Take pride in that.

541
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 4: I love that.

542
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 5: I love being a dad. I can't wait to go

543
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 5: home today to be able to take my daughter to

544
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 5: tennis practice.

545
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 3: That, oh my goodness.

546
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 5: And I'm that I'm not dad to like everybody knows.

547
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 5: Like Okay, we don't got to guess who his son is. Like, yeah, there,

548
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 5: and I'm on his ass. So when we when we're

549
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 5: working out, he's eight. You know what I'm saying, My

550
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 5: son China like Jayden, He's like he's getting accepted in schools. Yeah, mother,

551
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 5: Come on, Like, not just the UGA's or the Kentucky's.

552
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 5: This is the fam Us and the Howards and the Hamptons, right,

553
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 5: And I'm excited for all both of them, you know,

554
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 5: for for for them all. So that's where you got

555
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 5: to start taking into consideration. It's like, bro, I can't

556
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 5: go to play in Seattle, great team, great organization, but

557
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 5: I can't do that. I mean it's a time difference.

558
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 5: You know, my kids got technical devices that they want

559
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 5: to call you and Daddy where you at.

560
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 4: So they need a coach too.

561
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 7: So, uh, what coach would you want to play for

562
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 7: in Atlanta?

563
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: A question? Belichickt the job?

564
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 4: Belichick job.

565
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: I said what I.

566
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 4: Said, if you want to review, if you still.

567
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: Want to, you know, see what I have to say

568
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: about this particular topic, and tune into fourth and one

569
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: next week. We're gonna definitely talk about it.

570
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Speaker 4: I was.

571
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Speaker 2: Asking about football being we've seeing the transition of football,

572
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: how it's changed, right. Uh, And to myself, who's not

573
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: a player who hasn't played, seems like it got softer, right.

574
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: It seems like I've never seen quarterbacks flop until recently,

575
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: where quarterback of falling on the floor, kickers will fall

576
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: on the floor because they want the extra yards. I've

577
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: never seen ship like that before in my life. But

578
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 2: you're seeing that more, You're seeing it more in the NBA.

579
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: What is your both of your positions on the NFL

580
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: and do you think it's getting a lot of softer?

581
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: Do you think it's ruining the game?

582
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: Do you think it's helping in the game because it's

583
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 2: protecting players?

584
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: What your thoughts?

585
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get there, But that was a vet move

586
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 5: right there, because he was about to just throw a

587
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 5: grenade and just wait for it that sound like to

588
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 5: happen by just saying, but do you really got it

589
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 5: in you?

590
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, that physically.

591
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: You gotta learn that.

592
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 6: But physically you look like I'm talking about mentally and emotionally,

593
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 6: do you still want to go out there and.

594
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: Do that that grind?

595
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: I could And we were just having this conversation.

596
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 5: What I miss most about being in the NFL is

597
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 5: the routine, those those the continuity, you know things where

598
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 5: you know you're just shooting the ship in the locker room,

599
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 5: bro y'all saying your boy b marsh, Bro, look at

600
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 5: this outfit that you gotta look at his food like

601
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 5: he got caught last night.

602
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: You know, like these things.

603
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 5: Is it's still locker room talk, safe space, and it's

604
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 5: it's still accountability. But to the point envy is, I

605
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 5: think it's not soft, it's safe. And when you think

606
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 5: about it from the shield, when you think about it

607
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 5: from these NBA, the people who are making the decisions,

608
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 5: the game is better with the Patrick Mahomes in it.

609
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 5: The game is better with Lamar Jackson in it. The

610
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 5: game is better with Odell in it. If they're hurt,

611
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 5: or if Odell retires and he then says, CTE, I'm

612
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 5: having withdrawals and I can't walk straight my back, that's

613
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 5: not a good look for these major conglomerate businesses that

614
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 5: they are forced and if they are smart to be

615
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 5: able to say, hold on, hold on, we're gonna make

616
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 5: this game safer. Call it soft, We're making it safer.

617
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 5: We need the longevity of our players. While they're playing

618
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,239
Speaker 5: and after they're playing, and that's really what it is.

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Speaker 7: Last night we was with the commissioner, Roger Goodell, and

620
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 7: we spent about an hour. What I'm just talking about

621
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 7: some of these things very casual, and one things he.

622
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 4: Did, he lit up.

623
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 7: He was like, oh, the game is so good right now. Yeah,

624
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 7: he lit up on that, and we start talking about that,

625
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 7: and you know, from his perspect it is safer. But

626
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 7: also the business is booming. You know, it will always boom.

627
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 7: And I always push back on players to talk about,

628
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 7: you know, how soft it is, because it's like, yo,

629
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 7: all that tough guy stuff is irrelevant when you're sixty

630
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 7: and you're dealing with the things that Cam just described,

631
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 7: Like I'm tired of seeing some of my boys forty

632
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,959
Speaker 7: years old and they can barely walk up the steps placement,

633
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 7: like protect each other out there, like let's go get

634
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 7: her Money's compete at a high level. When I was

635
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 7: a guy, came through the era too where we was

636
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,719
Speaker 7: really getting after it. You know, ray Lewis taking him

637
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 7: trying to take my head off, and the Ed Reeves

638
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 7: and the Troy Paula Malos of the world Monstice. But

639
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 7: you know, I'm like, no, it makes sense, you know.

640
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 7: And I changed my game halfway through, where the first

641
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 7: couple of years I would crack back remember the.

642
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: Crackback block, Yeah, to legos to cleat them, hit.

643
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 4: All of that.

644
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 7: And then I was in a game plan against Buffalo

645
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 7: run down on kickoff when my homies hit a tight

646
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 7: end Everett, but you play for the um and now

647
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 7: he paralyzed, can't walk, and after that I would just

648
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 7: like stop that. What I would do is I would

649
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 7: come back on the crack block and I would see

650
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 7: like say ray Lewis.

651
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, ray Lewis.

652
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 7: Turned around like let's start it up. Boom, all right,

653
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 7: I did my job. You did your job right, and

654
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 7: we're good. We go home.

655
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 4: That's all looking out for each other now, everybody do it.

656
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: But you had I don't remember who we had up here.

657
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: But he said it was more difficult because now he

658
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: has to think before he hits, like I can't hit

659
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Speaker 2: the quarterback here, and it makes him instead of just

660
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: naturally tackling or naturally doing something.

661
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: It was.

662
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 4: Michael.

663
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: He said, you know, I have to overthink before I

664
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: make the play, and sometimes that makes me miss the play.

665
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 4: That's right.

666
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 7: Listen, and I always I'm on the other side of

667
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 7: the botom wide receiver. But the defensive guys they're in

668
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 7: a tough spot. And so like when I'm when I

669
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 7: get an opportunity to be a part of like these

670
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 7: discussions and talk about the rule changes and what's next,

671
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 7: and listen to what the NFL is talking about. I'm

672
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 7: always saying, like, but take care of our guys too,

673
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 7: because it ain't fear to them. They come in and

674
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 7: they can't hit how, they can't hit low, they hitting

675
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 7: the wrong place, and now they find.

676
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 4: Fifty thousand that that's ridiculous. So it is tough for

677
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 4: the defensive backs. I guess Cam a better question.

678
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 6: I would ask you, you know it's in you, but

679
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 6: what's the motivation other than money?

680
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: What it is money?

681
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 4: The motivation?

682
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm good. I'm good, and that's what That's

683
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 5: what they can't stand to stay to know. Like there's

684
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 5: gonna be some we was reading the comments and somebody said,

685
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 5: bro Cam new to act like he's good enough to

686
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 5: demand where he's gonna go.

687
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 6: It's gonna be my next question, Like what do you

688
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 6: say to people who say, who the hell does can't

689
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 6: think he is act like he has choices.

690
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 5: That's cool, but who he plays for? But hey, dumb ass,

691
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 5: whoever talked about it? You know, I'm good whether I

692
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 5: go back to the league or not. I can say

693
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 5: I use the game of football for my good because

694
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 5: I have not played in three years, but my name

695
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 5: is still relevant because of media.

696
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: Checkmate, gotcha? And that's all it is.

697
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 5: And you're going to keep hearing me because now I've

698
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 5: identified the power of influence. I've understand the power of entertainment.

699
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 5: I've understood the power of just like yo, I want

700
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 5: to see what he has to say. And while doing that,

701
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 5: I've been able to create Iconic Soga, my production company.

702
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 5: And I was telling telling Marsh like I had an

703
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 5: opportunity where somebody tried to sign you know, me as

704
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 5: a talent, and I'm like, bro, I'm a couple million

705
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 5: away from being your number one competitor because I don't

706
00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 5: need the money. My company is not funded by Cam

707
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 5: Newton's personal money.

708
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: It's its own entity.

709
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 5: You know, when you look at those checks, it says

710
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 5: Iconic Saga. It doesn't say Cam Newton, you know what

711
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 5: I'm saying. So that is something where I'm trying to

712
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 5: sustain or have a solid foundation, and knowing that with

713
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 5: the with the proper deals that comes in, I'm not

714
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 5: paying my I'm not not putting my car or buying

715
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 5: a car for your car show.

716
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

717
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 4: It's like I already had that.

718
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 5: Football gave me that, but also football is also giving

719
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 5: me the capital to invest in the things that I

720
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 5: care about, and knowing that what I made in the

721
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 5: NFL is not going to be enough for my lifetime.

722
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 5: Now it's time for me to get smart enough to

723
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 5: throw a grenade out there and say, yeah, I play

724
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 5: for Atlanta, really saying to myself like, gotcha, y'all keeping.

725
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: Me relevant still, you know what I'm saying, and just

726
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: doing it.

727
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: I have teams reached out to you to play though, Yes, but.

728
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: It wasn't It wasn't worth talking about it.

729
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 4: What do we what?

730
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: Come up for?

731
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 4: What?

732
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: No?

733
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 5: I already felt a certain type of way with going

734
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 5: back to New England, seeing myself seeing Newton on another

735
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 5: color jersey.

736
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: It felt with like I was I was prepared. This

737
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: is what people don't understand.

738
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 5: I was prepared to retire when I first got cut.

739
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 4: Wow, because you didn't want to leave Carolina.

740
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 5: I never did, and that's why I hurt so much.

741
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 5: It was like I wanted to end my career similar

742
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 5: to the Eli Mannings, the Ben Roethlisberger, they had that

743
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 5: right to do, you know. And even for Tom Brady,

744
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 5: he could say like, no, no, no, no, let's let's hey,

745
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 5: let's come together. You don't want me here, I don't

746
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 5: you know, the circumstances whatever they are, Let's do it honorable.

747
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: Seem Like at Matthew Stafford, I didn't have that option.

748
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: They just said yo, bro like.

749
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 5: And and to them they may say nobody wanted you.

750
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 5: That's fine still too, but I'm alert to understand, like

751
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 5: I was in a good position then and then going

752
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 5: back to get that and then going back to get that.

753
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 6: Again, it was like, okay, ship, you know, you know,

754
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 6: why did it seem like, you know, you led the

755
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 6: Panther to the super Bowl that year, you let the

756
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 6: Pans to the Super Bowl?

757
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 4: Man, you were by far the blackest quarterback.

758
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 6: Abviously like the dabbing, you know, future GZ game, the

759
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 6: white people was complaining.

760
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 4: The next year you came back a little bit more subdued. Yeah,

761
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 4: what was the reason.

762
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: I don't know.

763
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 5: I don't know, I wouldn't necessarily say subdued, you know,

764
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 5: but there were It was just more commercials, you know

765
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like they put that mainstream on me,

766
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 5: and then you know, certain situations happened, and I still

767
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 5: was reminded I'm still a nigga.

768
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 4: So you turned it down a little bit on Perplese.

769
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 5: I mean, it wasn't that I was turned it down,

770
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 5: It's just it just happened that way.

771
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: You know.

772
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 5: I lost the deal because you know, there was things

773
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 5: in the media about my personal life. Everybody goes through it,

774
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 5: you know, when when you have a breakup.

775
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: I lost a deal like that.

776
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 5: And the next week they got another black quarterback, Dak Prescott. Wow,

777
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 5: you know, and I'm like, yo, but it didn't match

778
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 5: their aesthetic. And they have the power to do that. Now,

779
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 5: if you do the fine print, they sing you a

780
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 5: whole contract. That's they're basically saying, we're going to pay

781
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 5: you one point five million dollars and they're going to

782
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 5: explain all the things in this fifty page contract. And

783
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 5: it's just like, NA, just get me to the last one, Okay,

784
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 5: I sign it. Cool boom, But that contract really is

785
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 5: an at will basis, you do anything that we don't

786
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 5: damn agree with, we can snip you and replace you.

787
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 5: And once I started understanding that, it was like, Yo,

788
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 5: how am I impacting my community?

789
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 4: Though?

790
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: How am I? Like? How do I give my son

791
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 1: hope to be able to say that? That's how you feel?

792
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: Stand on that.

793
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, And it ain't no disrespect

794
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 5: to the buckheads. But it's like everybody knows what I mean,

795
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 5: Like I want to appease to the bankhead or not

796
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 5: the bucket because I do more buy that because everywhere

797
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 5: that I go question last night, Bro, they really love

798
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 5: you and Charlotte, Charlotte, I can go anywhere.

799
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a respecting.

800
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 5: Because when I see a black person or I see

801
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 5: a person in my cond and they say, what's up

802
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 5: to me?

803
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: Yo? One finger on? Pingy want thumb? One love?

804
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 4: Yeah?

805
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 5: Bro?

806
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 4: What love?

807
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: What's good with it?

808
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 4: How y'all doing? Man? Y'all good?

809
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: Y'all straight. I'm used to those type of toxic atmospheres

810
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: and I thriving those where we're shooting dice, playing poker,

811
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, or just at the bar.

812
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 5: It's like, Bro, I'm good you know we're straight. It's

813
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,479
Speaker 5: a respecting my man. You good, you got an issue? Hey,

814
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 5: come on, hey, around on me, let's go. You know

815
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like, when you have that awareness or

816
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 5: they call it emotional intelligence something, that's what the that's

817
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 5: what our environment teaches us. They call it streets smart,

818
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 5: but it's in corporate it's emotional intelligence.

819
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 6: When y'all get to that heighten both of y'all. You

820
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 6: know y'all been to the top of the NFL. Do

821
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 6: you feel the pressure to keep it, to keep it

822
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 6: all your black, because there was times when it needs

823
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 6: to get mad at your dabb and can you dab more?

824
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

825
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: But not only that though, Like I look at the

826
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: league now and I'm like, damn, I would get fine

827
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: for certain things that they do. Now.

828
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 5: This man is the creation of my Cause, My cleats,

829
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 5: But the NFL A never wrote him.

830
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: A check for that. They're gonna read, they're gonna repurpose

831
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: it in a different way.

832
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 5: But he got fine for wearing the lime green mental

833
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 5: health mental health awareness and wow.

834
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: And I got proof. There's multiple people that told me that,

835
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: And the NFL is making billions of dollars off of that.

836
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: My Cause my cleats.

837
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 5: They have unbelievable testimonials by my Cause my cleats. But

838
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 5: the person who what's fine for that, he didn't even

839
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 5: get reinbras friends fines. He was just like, oh, and

840
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 5: by the way, listen like our master.

841
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: Fathers, yea, how to make you feel brandon like?

842
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 7: Well, first, I think, like to answer your question, you know,

843
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 7: people look at me like you're crazy, wow, this and that,

844
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 7: and it's not that. It's really disruption and it's like,

845
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 7: you know, with everybody says stand on business, and it's

846
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 7: like I always felt like i'ma I'm gonna go with

847
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 7: my gut and so my Cause my cleat that was

848
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 7: that it was like, this doesn't make sense to me.

849
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 4: I'm wearing lime green cleats.

850
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 7: I'm playing on Thursday night football against the Jets, playing

851
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 7: in Chicago against the Giants in Chicago, and we're probably

852
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 7: gonna reach half a billion homes and we did. And

853
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 7: after that probably that was one of the reasons why

854
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 7: I got traded to the Jets. But think about it now,

855
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 7: I'm a bad teammate. You know, I do my own thing,

856
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 7: I'm selfish, et cetera, et cetera. But I'm walking back

857
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 7: with the owner of the mc caskeys and he's like, yeah,

858
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 7: the way you wear your socks in those lime green cleats,

859
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 7: you can never do that again. No, they knew because

860
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 7: it was mental health Awareness week. So all week we

861
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 7: was doing everything. We had all the buildings lit up

862
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 7: in Chicago, New York lime green, and we was doing evincent.

863
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 7: I was saying like, I'm wearing these lime green cleats

864
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 7: and They're probably gonna find me, and I'm gonna match

865
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 7: the fine and we'll put it whatever. And so the

866
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 7: day the day of the game, NFL official walks up

867
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 7: knocks on the door stand at the Hilton not on

868
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 7: the Michigan A f and they're like, yeah, if you

869
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 7: wear those cleats, we're not gonna allow you to go

870
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 7: on the field. And I said, well, y'all tell the

871
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 7: fans while y'all y'all while I'm not playing today, And

872
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 7: I shut my door right and then everybody owners, everybody

873
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 7: hitting me up, and I sat in my room. I said,

874
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 7: I'm going through my regular routine. So anyways, I wore

875
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 7: the lime green cleats and it took off. And then

876
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 7: after that I would fly to New York and I

877
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 7: would meet with them and then this is the commissioner.

878
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 7: You know, I'm friendly with the commissions. My guy and

879
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 7: one day were sitting in the circle and he's like,

880
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 7: I'm tired of this kid coming in here talking about

881
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 7: this and that and nothing's happening.

882
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 4: Get it done. And he walked out and then boom,

883
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 4: I caused my cleats.

884
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: So with no credit, no credit or nothing to show

885
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: for it. So outside of an abba boy, and this

886
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: is what I was saying. Also too, I got another

887
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: situation too.

888
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 7: I don't want to say that because I don't want

889
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 7: to say that, because I want to leave that out

890
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 7: like that.

891
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 5: Give me, give me, give me two sentences. D'Angelo Williams

892
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 5: was the cure for cancer. His mom rest rest, rest

893
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 5: in peace. He wanted to wear pink, He had pink dreads.

894
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: Where's Mom? Now?

895
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 5: He probably didn't get as fine as Brandon did. But

896
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 5: now you have my my cause, my cleats and then

897
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 5: the October a breast cancer wearing a smuff the pink.

898
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: But these are players.

899
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 5: Who have the ability to say, hold up, this means

900
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 5: something to me, and now the NFL you can't blame

901
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 5: him for saying hold on, this is a it's a

902
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 5: dope bass idea, let's see how much we can raise

903
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 5: for yes, But well.

904
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I don't want to leave it out

905
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 7: there like that because you're right, everybody right, you know,

906
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 7: there should have been more opportunities and there can be

907
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 7: more opportunities. I think it was like year three they

908
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 7: came back around. We did like a thirty second spot

909
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 7: at commercial whatever, you know, And I wasn't looking at

910
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 7: it that way. I was looking at how much money,

911
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 7: you know, the cancer community was generating off of Breast

912
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,479
Speaker 7: Cancer Awareness Week in the NFL. But then I'm looking

913
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 7: at like, damn, there's thirty six million Americans impacted by cancer,

914
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 7: but there's one hundred and twenty million Americans affected by

915
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 7: mental health. What can the NFL do? How much money

916
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 7: can be generated for profit nonprofit in this community? So

917
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 7: I was looking at from a business perspective, and so yeah,

918
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 7: they gave me a little recognition from like putting out

919
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 7: a commercial doing that, but it was all about the money,

920
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 7: you know. It was about how do we get these

921
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 7: resources too. That's like your something mental health summit, Like

922
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 7: that's what I was looking at, Like, Okay, y'all funding

923
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 7: all these other places, but you got Charlotmane doing some

924
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 7: amazing things in the space. Let's take ten million to

925
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 7: put it over here. Let's take ten million, let's take

926
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 7: it to Dak Prescott. But this is what I would say.

927
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 7: So there's opportunities. But if you know, when you're dealing

928
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 7: with large corporations like that and establishment establishments like that,

929
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 7: it can take time. So like I got that, like

930
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 7: when I call the answer and I go in there,

931
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 7: and it's gonna take time. But there's gonna be some

932
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 7: major deals, like the biggest partner in the NFL signa

933
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 7: and they don't activate, but they got they trying to

934
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 7: focus on mental health.

935
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 4: Who else better to do it with than you?

936
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 7: So I say that because it's gonna happen. And when

937
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 7: you're building something and you see it, it may take five, ten,

938
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 7: fifteen years, but when it breakthrough, it's gonna break through

939
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 7: it a major way.

940
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 4: You know, I want to ask you to brandon you.

941
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 6: You it took like a sabbatical, right because I saw

942
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 6: you kind of disappeared and you came back on social media?

943
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 4: What was that about? Be good?

944
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 7: So sabbatical, Like, look, I've invested all of my football money.

945
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 7: I made over one hundred million dollars, right, So then

946
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 7: you got to do after texts all of that. I've

947
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 7: invested all of my football money into that case study

948
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 7: that we talked about earlier at Harvard Content and Commerce,

949
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 7: and so it's going to take time. And you know,

950
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 7: I've made some mistakes. I've learned in real time, but

951
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 7: I see it. Everything that I'm doing today is built

952
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 7: off of that case study. I'm not doing anything different.

953
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 4: And so.

954
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 7: You know where I've been over the last two years.

955
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 7: I've had guys that people come on the platform and

956
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 7: we weren't fully aligned. I didn't know how to lead

957
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 7: at times. I may have said the wrong thing at times,

958
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 7: but it's like, here's the vision, here's the five year

959
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 7: road map. And so getting there has been a little

960
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 7: bumpy over the last year or two. And so what

961
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 7: I needed to do was one, look myself in the

962
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 7: mirror and say, okay, how are you contributing to this?

963
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 7: And two it's like, all right, bro, fuck the product,

964
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 7: excuse my language, get the paper right, right, the people right,

965
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 7: and then the process. We know how to do content.

966
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 7: I know how to go viral.

967
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 4: That ain't it.

968
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 7: It's bigger than that. It's bigger than the podcast. We

969
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 7: have an opportunity to be the next generation ESPN, and

970
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 7: so I think to get there, I had to go

971
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 7: on at sabbatical, which I'm still kind of there. Like

972
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 7: it's I'm almost like an artist in its last has

973
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 7: delivered one last album, right, and it's like I'm putting

974
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 7: out content because I have a contract, right and I'm

975
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 7: making a lot of money a month to do this.

976
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 7: But the reality is, I don't want to put out

977
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 7: content right now. I want to get the paper right,

978
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 7: the people and then the process. And so that's where

979
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 7: I'm at right now, bro. But like I said, they

980
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 7: had to start with me looking myself in the mirror,

981
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 7: meditating every day, doing yoga every day, you know, still

982
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 7: take can care myself, and a lot of things came up,

983
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 7: a lot of trauma that I never dealt with, you know.

984
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 7: You know we're talking about ten years, Like damn, I'm

985
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 7: still carrying that. And so yeah, that's where I've been, bro.

986
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 7: So I'm still in that process. But I'm excited about

987
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 7: you know, the vision still did what happened?

988
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 4: What I am athlete?

989
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 6: Because I think I read this you yeah, put yourself

990
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 6: a twelve million dollars what I am athlete.

991
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 7: No, not to see see see see see what you

992
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 7: see that language you just using, but you noticed you

993
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 7: just you just quick right there. But that's a big

994
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 7: point in our community. We say twelve million in debt

995
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 7: or is it twelve million investment?

996
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 4: M got you got you got right, gotcha?

997
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 7: Because you know year three you do ten point five

998
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 7: in my that's a that's a unicorn. Yeah, Amazon was

999
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 7: what in the rid for how many years?

1000
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: That's right? That's right, but still worth how much? Right?

1001
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,959
Speaker 7: So you got to understand venture. You gotta understand the game.

1002
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 7: So that's what I'm doing in studying, watching the books

1003
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 7: I'm reading on venture. It's on the perfect pitch. And

1004
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 7: so yes, it's twelve million dollar investment. Did that trigger

1005
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 7: anything in you that? Did that bring up anything from

1006
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 7: the past.

1007
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 6: Because when I look at I am athlete, I look

1008
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 6: at it as almost like an incubator. It's so much

1009
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 6: amazing talent has come through there and going on to

1010
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 6: do you see the pivots?

1011
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 4: You see what your single doing, what you do? So

1012
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 4: that and that's one of those things. How do you

1013
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 4: retain talent?

1014
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: Right?

1015
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 4: How do you structure deals?

1016
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 7: So that's the other challenge where people don't understand we

1017
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 7: are new media, So what does that mean? We're the

1018
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 7: ones that's going to take We're in the front line,

1019
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 7: We're going to take the hits. But when you sit

1020
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 7: down like I had, like I got some cool people

1021
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 7: to always check on me, Like Nori will hit me

1022
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 7: up every couple of like every month or so and

1023
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 7: just like, how you doing you good? He hit me

1024
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 7: up two weeks ago, and he's saying, Yo, I just

1025
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 7: want to let you know you're doing You're doing good.

1026
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 7: Keep going. That ain't nothing but some rap shit, he said.

1027
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 7: Look at Fat Joe. Fat Joe went through the same

1028
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 7: thing when he is building terror squad.

1029
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 4: Right.

1030
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 7: So it's like he said, the challenge is when you

1031
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 7: sit down and you're a boss to your teammates, your peers.

1032
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 7: So how do I approach a guy and say, okay,

1033
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 7: here's the deal? But then how you share an IP?

1034
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 7: How do you rap share on everything on top?

1035
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 4: Right?

1036
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 7: So nothing came up when you asked me the question

1037
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 7: about twelve million.

1038
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 4: Nothing came up for me there. What came up. The

1039
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 4: biggest thing that came up was that.

1040
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 7: Everything I went through when we talked about my cause,

1041
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 7: my cleats and mental health. The biggest thing that came

1042
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 7: up was like, damn, twenty eleven, That's when I started

1043
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 7: this journey. And after that, I start curating my life.

1044
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 7: I wasn't authentic, I wasn't real why because of what

1045
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 7: can was saying. When I go on the field, now

1046
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 7: they got it go from one camera or two cameras

1047
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 7: on me because I am a superstar, the receiver, but

1048
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 7: now they got four. After good play, bad play, they

1049
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 7: want to see my reaction. So now I'm living in

1050
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 7: a box. If I go do this, if I show emotion,

1051
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 7: they're gonna say, oh, he crazy. So for ten years

1052
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 7: I've been like trying to curate this, this, this, this,

1053
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 7: this persona and I'm like, damn, bro, you.

1054
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 4: You really you really?

1055
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 7: It's still affected by what happened in twenty eleven. Write

1056
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 7: all that work you did, mentalization therapy, self assessment therapy, Like, bro,

1057
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 7: that shit worked. You understood, like what was you know,

1058
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 7: what was going on with you mentally and how impactful

1059
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 7: mental health is. But like, there's still more work to do.

1060
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 7: And so I started peeling back those layers. And then

1061
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 7: what it also came up was trauma. Like in two

1062
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 7: like I spent three months in an outpatient program in

1063
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 7: twenty eleven dealing with these things. But what I didn't

1064
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 7: deal with was, you know, some daddy issues, some mama issues.

1065
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 7: But I'm out there teaching these things, right, so I'm like,

1066
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 7: oh shit, like.

1067
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 4: Now I gotta go deep.

1068
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 7: Like I understood, like why I viewed the world that way,

1069
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 7: or why view women that way, or why view you know,

1070
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 7: you know why I may have, you know, not been

1071
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 7: able to trust. So I understood it, but I didn't

1072
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 7: go deep. And so I just spent like the last

1073
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 7: six months really going deep. Man, really changed my life.

1074
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 3: I want to ask, you know, when you're talking football,

1075
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: sports betting kind of took over right to it.

1076
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 2: Just seems like some of the things that they talk

1077
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: about now, the analysts will talk about the sports betting,

1078
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: the parlays over the actual game. I think sports betting

1079
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: helped to hurt the game.

1080
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 7: Well from a player, it helps the game because we're business.

1081
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 7: We're all businessmen here, yep, right Like business is booming.

1082
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 7: We got to be a part of it.

1083
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 4: You know.

1084
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 7: That's why you think the NFL is investing in. They

1085
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 7: were the number one people walking the halls of Congress

1086
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 7: and pushing back pushing back, but it's a it's a

1087
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 7: you gotta do it. You gotta do it from a

1088
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 7: business perspective and you got to teach. But from an

1089
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 7: on the field standpoint, Caim, I don't know how you

1090
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 7: feel about it, but for me, it's like I ain't

1091
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 7: we ain't worrying about that. I'm not worrying about your

1092
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 7: overs and your unders, accetertery. But you do have some

1093
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 7: players that's been suspended because they betten and it ain't

1094
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 7: supposed to be betting, But I don't think it affects

1095
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 7: the product on the field.

1096
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 5: We need more minority access in the sports betting space.

1097
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 5: You see ESPN, bet MGM, prize picks, Underdog, name them all,

1098
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 5: Draft Kings, all that, but nobody looks like us. But

1099
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 5: we probably the number one race that's trying to come

1100
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 5: up quick. So we talk about business. I'm waiting for

1101
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 5: some sanctions to be in place for the next sports

1102
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 5: book to have at least a minority.

1103
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: UH patron in.

1104
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 5: Position to do that because they use us as influencers,

1105
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 5: but they don't use us as partners.

1106
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 4: So you got Jay z Uh fighting for the casino.

1107
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's needed, bro, Like I think I

1108
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,959
Speaker 5: think for us, we don't have enough enough of us

1109
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 5: in position to really.

1110
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 4: What just happened everything?

1111
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 3: Man, So you just like that?

1112
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know, but no, no, that's real. Ship.

1113
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 5: Like, I just feel like we need to have more access, bro,

1114
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 5: And we got more access. We already are are naturally

1115
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 5: trendsetters and just being in the in the trend of business.

1116
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 5: That's why jay Z is so impactful because we're not

1117
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 5: used to somebody looking like us speaking for us and

1118
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 5: just empowering us in such an authentic way.

1119
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: And just imagine if we had twenty of him.

1120
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 5: Now, wow, that's changed the narratives in the hood to

1121
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 5: be like, Bro, I ain't just trying to, you know,

1122
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 5: drill on something, you know, I'm trying to really.

1123
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: Like pick up a skill on something, you know what

1124
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and really take it to the next level.

1125
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 4: Okay, well, what are your thoughts? Can win the state

1126
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 4: of black quarterbacks? Right now? In the NFL?

1127
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 6: I think this year was like some record, it was like,

1128
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 6: what fourteen starting quarterbacks the majority.

1129
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 5: Now, the real thing is when I first came into

1130
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 5: the league, it was it was Donovan McNabb. He was

1131
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 5: headed out Michael Vick headed out that was it. Now

1132
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 5: being a white quarterback is the minority now, Yeah, you

1133
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Being.

1134
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: A pocket quarterback is the minority. Now, you feel me?

1135
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 5: So I love the state of where it's at right now,

1136
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 5: and it's pushed by the Lamar Jackson's other world, the

1137
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes other world, these extremely savvy skill sets that

1138
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 5: this game has really never seen and it's praised now.

1139
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 6: So I always felt like there was a racial stereotypical

1140
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 6: component to be in a black quarterback where they felt

1141
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 6: like y'all weren't smart enough to play the position.

1142
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's it's in everything, not just in sports.

1143
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:29,479
Speaker 5: It's in everything, like diversity and inclusion. It don't matter

1144
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 5: what the commodity is. The right hire, the right person

1145
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 5: should get this position. Just because you run fast and

1146
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 5: you just so happened to play the quarterback position.

1147
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: You shouldn't have to change your position, you know what

1148
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1149
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 5: And you know, we had a lot of questions about

1150
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 5: the Lamar Jackson when he got drafted. Joe Flacco was theirs,

1151
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 5: like is he gonna play receiver? That's why he didn't

1152
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 5: want to run a forty It's like, no, bro, I

1153
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 5: don't want to do that because I know what y'all

1154
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 5: trying to try to do, and that's crazy.

1155
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 4: They try to change your position just because you like,

1156
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 4: come on the corner wide receiver, all these black quarterbacks.

1157
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 7: You're an athlete. You're an athlete as usual over here, correct,

1158
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 7: and it's to your point, you know mine, And it's

1159
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 7: backed up in numbers as well. Some of the smartest guys,

1160
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 7: or they think is the smartest guys on the field

1161
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 7: are the backup quarterbacks. A lot of our hit former

1162
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 7: players that become hit coaches are backup quarterbacks. And when

1163
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 7: you look at the numbers, how many black quarterbacks or

1164
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 7: backup quarterbacks? Now that's important because we talk about evolution,

1165
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 7: evolving transition. So a white quarterback can be in an

1166
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 7: NFL for ten fifteen years never throw a touchdown their

1167
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 7: backup quarterback, how many black quarterbacks do they get an opportunity.

1168
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 5: So to that person that says, who does Cam Newton

1169
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 5: think he is by coming out with a list, I'm

1170
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 5: telling you I get I said I would be a

1171
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 5: backup to these people. So knowing that most backup quarterbacks

1172
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 5: don't look like me, nobody I mean being in a

1173
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 5: quarterback room.

1174
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 4: You know.

1175
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 5: It was just certain things that it wasn't awkward. It

1176
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 5: was just like, as a starter, you set the temple

1177
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 5: of the room. But you know when you can't, you

1178
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 5: can't talk about certain things because it's like, y'all, I

1179
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 5: ain't gonna be able to relate to it. What I've

1180
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 5: seen in Baltimore this year they had a black coach,

1181
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 5: you know, and the backups were black.

1182
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 1: It was like, damn, I wanted to be in that room.

1183
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 1: See what that's like. You see what I'm saying because

1184
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: I never had that. You know.

1185
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 5: One of my most exciting times was probably around that

1186
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 5: twenty fourteen fifteen sixteen season where I had Joe Webb

1187
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 5: Birmingham and then Derek Anderson. He really was like a

1188
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 5: hippie damn there, you know, because he was from Oregon

1189
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 5: and he just didn't he was naive to a lot

1190
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 5: of things, but he was He knew his stuff, and

1191
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 5: he was relatable. He knew he knew how to speak

1192
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 5: my language. When I was frustrated, when I was excited,

1193
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 5: he was that, all right, all right, come on.

1194
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 4: Kid, let's go, let's go. Let's go.

1195
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: Come on, man, come on, fix your body like that

1196
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: type of thing too.

1197
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 5: And then you know Joe being main come on man like,

1198
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 5: but that shit man, that's who he was, and I

1199
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 5: needed that balance, that contrast to be able to be

1200
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 5: the best version of myself.

1201
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, both we all brilliant brothers.

1202
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 6: Man, When did y'all say to y'allselves, we're going to

1203
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 6: defy the stereotype of the dumb jock.

1204
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1205
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 5: I always looked up to the people who had money,

1206
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 5: and I said it on earn your leisure. I was like, bro,

1207
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 5: I'm I don't really read as many books as I should,

1208
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 5: but I tap into documentaries heavy, like That's how I received.

1209
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: My kind of content.

1210
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 5: And the documentaries that I love the most are drug

1211
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 5: kingpins because they're the most well versed.

1212
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: Businessman on earth.

1213
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 5: Because they're not just fighting for their budgets, they're.

1214
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: Fighting for their lives. One wrong move can cost.

1215
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 5: You your freedom or cost you your life, and that's

1216
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 5: how smart you have to be. You know, I'm not

1217
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 5: promoting violence by no means, but I'm just saying, like,

1218
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 5: just to be able to think like that was the

1219
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 5: same bandwidth that Pablo Escobar had. You don't run no

1220
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 5: empire like that without having a little Jeff Bezos in you,

1221
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 5: with the little Steve Jobs in you, and having to

1222
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 5: know everything about your business structuring how much we did

1223
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 5: this and there, And it's extremely entertaining to me. And

1224
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 5: when I look at business, I've always was enamored by

1225
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 5: the owner.

1226
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: How does he move, how does he dress, how does

1227
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: he carry himself?

1228
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 5: How does people respect him, how does he take on

1229
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 5: the room, how does he treat the people that's at

1230
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 5: his level or under his level? And now try to

1231
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 5: mimic that into the businessman that I am today.

1232
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 7: I never thought about the stigma, played into the stigma,

1233
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 7: and you could say it's selfish, but and that may

1234
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 7: be true for a lot of us, Like you know,

1235
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 7: we grew up surviving, not thriving. Right, So for me

1236
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 7: it was like, yo, I want to play in the NFL.

1237
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 7: I knew that early. And you know, when you get older,

1238
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 7: you start to understanding, oh, we really ain't got what I.

1239
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 4: Thought we have.

1240
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 7: And so now you want to take care of your mom,

1241
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 7: you want to take care of your people. That's why

1242
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 7: earlier when you asked the questions far as championships impact,

1243
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 7: for me, it was nothing. It was the money, Like,

1244
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go out there and do my thing. I

1245
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 7: want to be the best, but I'm taking money over

1246
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 7: everything because I got a mom and a sister on

1247
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 7: Chandler Road, you know, in Atlanta that ain't got nothing.

1248
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 7: You know, they're eight, They're in a motel eight, you know,

1249
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 7: my senior year. And so it was coming from a

1250
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 7: selfish standpoint, but almost selfless because I really wanted to

1251
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 7: take care of my people, right, But I love the game.

1252
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 7: But then when I ended up at you know, McLean

1253
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 7: in an outpatient program, that's when I understood my purpose.

1254
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 7: And that's when it became bigger than me for the

1255
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 7: very first time. And that's when I start studying and

1256
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 7: reading a lot, start reading tons of like I mean,

1257
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 7: I got a whole library and I read all the time.

1258
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 7: And that's when I put that case study in place.

1259
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,439
Speaker 7: And I just been purpose driven since then. And that's

1260
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 7: been part of the challenge as well. It's like when

1261
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 7: you hear sometimes you don't see people you don't you're

1262
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 7: not relatable, you know, you're not built in those relationships,

1263
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 7: right because it's just purpose.

1264
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 4: I'm here.

1265
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 7: If you ain't on this, here's mom too. Mom, you

1266
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 7: ain't it, Mom? You going to Betty She went to

1267
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 7: Betty Ford. You you went that house. Yeah, it's going

1268
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 7: to Betty Ford. Now she's seven years sober, right, But

1269
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 7: being mom was fighting for four or five years, four

1270
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 7: or five years, Mom was fighting.

1271
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 4: Shout out to Mary J. Blige, Mary J. It was

1272
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 4: because of you. My mom got help.

1273
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 7: Really, yes, she called me and I was fighting from

1274
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 7: I was fighting my mom for a couple of years.

1275
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 7: I'm like, Mom, you need help, you need help, Like,

1276
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 7: look at this panthle. I think you're alcohol I think

1277
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 7: you're alcoholic. And she went through a lot and I

1278
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 7: never forget writing down one seventy second in Miami on

1279
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 7: date night, my mom called me crying. She said, baby,

1280
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 7: I just watched Mary Jay's story and I think that's me. Wow,

1281
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 7: finally go get the help you need I need and

1282
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 7: then boom she goes. We set her up at Betty

1283
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 7: Ford three months later. So six seven years soberive years sober,

1284
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 7: seven years. I'm sorry, mom, I missed the year.

1285
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 6: So that's the power of content, right, Absolutely, that's what

1286
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 6: you were saying. That just makes you want to continue

1287
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 6: to make intentional, purpose driven content. That's somebody's documentary. Mary

1288
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 6: J's documentary could influence and this by somebody to go

1289
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 6: get help. That's right, that's great love. Mary never met

1290
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 6: her Oh oh, salute to marry to meet my mom. Now,

1291
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 6: salute to Marria. Business mind came from you talk about

1292
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 6: all this business?

1293
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 3: Where did that come from?

1294
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 4: You?

1295
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 2: Hear a lot of times people go to all these

1296
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: different leagues, right, and they just focus on the game.

1297
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 2: And then by the time it's time to get out,

1298
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 2: they realized that what they thought they had they no

1299
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 2: longer have right. Do to agents, do the taxes, doe

1300
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 2: to friends, family, this that you Ever, when did y'all

1301
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: get to mind? Was like, I'm going to be different

1302
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 2: because a lot of times we're not taught simple.

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01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 5: It's in the book of Rich Dad, Poor Dad. It's

1304
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 5: a title that says what's your business? And you ask

1305
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 5: a person they say, oh, I'm a teacher, yeah, but

1306
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 5: you own your own school. It's like no, no, no, what's

1307
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 5: your business? Like what do you do? And it's like,

1308
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,479
Speaker 5: I'm an athlete, yeah, so you own a team?

1309
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: Like no.

1310
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 5: So when you start having this understanding like what's my business,

1311
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 5: that forces you to say, what can I call my

1312
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 5: own You know, what I'm saying, like, I'm building these platforms,

1313
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 5: I'm giving these ideas, my cause, my CLEAs breast care,

1314
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 5: cancer awareness for other people, but it's not me.

1315
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: And I'm telling Brandon.

1316
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 5: To this day, like bro, you got all these ideas, bro,

1317
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 5: but you ain't got nothing to show for it. So

1318
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 5: how how No, No, I'm saying that, let me, let

1319
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 5: me get to the point, like how do we make

1320
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 5: sure that we follow through that we do have something

1321
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 5: to show for right? Not to say that he ain't

1322
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 5: got nothing, you know, but it's just like you, you

1323
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 5: should have more if we're being honest. So this business

1324
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,439
Speaker 5: side kind of came where it's it's shunned when you're

1325
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 5: playing because you're not focused. You're putting it Like I

1326
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 5: had a person til b you getting paid enough where

1327
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 5: you don't need to go on these things. I said, no, bullshit,

1328
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 5: Hell nah, you can't. You don't get the right to

1329
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 5: tell me what I'm making enough to not get advertising dollars.

1330
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like you, it's it's

1331
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: it's clear as day.

1332
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 5: But I don't think a lot of athletes are aware

1333
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 5: nor that's that's that's the lazy side.

1334
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: But the reality too.

1335
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 5: A lot of them really don't have time to really

1336
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 5: focus in and hone in. So now whether the Atlanta

1337
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 5: Falcons call me or not, I have to really consider.

1338
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 5: It's like, Yo, I'm doing so much stuff to set

1339
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 5: up for the next, the next, and the next, that

1340
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 5: I would be distracted if I was there, you know

1341
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. But that business side has always came

1342
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 5: like when you' all in Atlanta, Brome, come to fellowship,

1343
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like you say a hat,

1344
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 5: like this is my company, This is not somebody else.

1345
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: Like go get a hat.

1346
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 5: You know, the style is you know something that I've

1347
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 5: always been working on so many different things. I show

1348
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 5: myself with my production company icon Osaga. No, I don't

1349
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 5: need ESPN to do that. And I think with all

1350
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 5: these furloughs these last couple of years, ESPN, the Tom Warner,

1351
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 5: the paramounts, they've they've understood like, oh, we can't keep

1352
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 5: hiring all these people, like we got to do cuts

1353
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 5: because people are not consuming the content the same way

1354
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 5: that they used to.

1355
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 7: So right, I think for me, the first couple of

1356
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 7: years was rough, you know, and then you know I

1357
01:04:55,560 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 7: always knew like I had it, the game, the personality,

1358
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 7: all of that. You know, I would just sit there

1359
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 7: and watch like Peyton Manning his press conference after Sunday

1360
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 7: Night football, see his handes was and talking and you know,

1361
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 7: I was always studying. I was like, damn, I could

1362
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 7: do that. And so, but the first couple of years

1363
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 7: was rough, and then I realized like, damn, bro, you're

1364
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 7: not a brand. And a lot of athletes what we

1365
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 7: do is we go out there and we're like, yo,

1366
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 7: we Nike pay me this, Gatorade pay me that. We're brand.

1367
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 7: We're trying to make money off our name, image, likeness.

1368
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 7: I was like, well that doesn't That's not there for

1369
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 7: me anymore. I'm business and so I start operating that way,

1370
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 7: hiring my own teams, building out you know, teams, and

1371
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 7: taking these ideas and trying to bring them to life,

1372
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 7: bringing them to life, and so yeah, I just put

1373
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 7: my head down, really started reading in A book that

1374
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 7: really changed my life was Good to Great and so

1375
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 7: Jim Collins all his business imprints. I read all of

1376
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 7: them like I was hooked. That was my first business book,

1377
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 7: probably damn. In my first book I ever read was

1378
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 7: my fifth year in the NFL. You know and so,

1379
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,479
Speaker 7: and the reason why I said that when you said

1380
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 7: what do you have to show for it? You know,

1381
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 7: like I read everything, like even like you watch the

1382
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 7: Netflix documentary, takes ten fifteen years. Sometimes you know, a

1383
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 7: peloton seven years. The CEO he was about to commit

1384
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,439
Speaker 7: suicide and then all of a sudden, boom, it pops through.

1385
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 7: So you know, it just takes time. But I feel

1386
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 7: like our breakthrough was in a pandemic, like we were ready.

1387
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 7: Everything I wanted happened in the pandemic boom. Now I

1388
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 7: have two brands that are nationally known and then one

1389
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,959
Speaker 7: that is globally known when it comes to athletes because

1390
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 7: they tap into the platform. So premier athletes around the

1391
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 7: world are watching. And so now I'm in this space

1392
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 7: when you ask me like, yo, why are you going

1393
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 7: to sabbatical? Because I'm like, I fucking got it. And

1394
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 7: now it's like, all right, what do I do next?

1395
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 7: My next moves got to be my best moves.

1396
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 6: Right, So, and you a service, I mean Project three

1397
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 6: seventy five, I mean, e've been you know, that's you

1398
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 6: was on the front line of the mental health commence early,

1399
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 6: long long, long, long, long time ago.

1400
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 7: I'm done with project through seventy five. I'm done with nonprofit.

1401
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 7: For profit. That's where House of Athletes comes in at Like,

1402
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 7: that's a ten billion dollar brand. And my vision wasn't

1403
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 7: necessarily nonprofit. It was more so just the work. And

1404
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 7: it's like, you know, I got had this vision in

1405
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 7: twenty and fifteen. I said, damn, you know, in fifteen years,

1406
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 7: you're going to donate four hundred million dollars to the

1407
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 7: mental health community. So I got three hundred and three

1408
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 7: hundred and ninety to go, you know, And so I

1409
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 7: said that was going to do that through business.

1410
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, but don't do that though, because nonprofit gives your

1411
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 5: way to shelter that So you not just get tax benefits.

1412
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 7: No, for sure, Like no, it's still like the entity

1413
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 7: is still there and we take the benefits. But instead

1414
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 7: of me taking it's like time. Right, but if I'm

1415
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 7: put in like fifty percent of my time is going

1416
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 7: into nonprofit, and now that nonprofit is generating you know,

1417
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 7: let's say two point five million dollars year, right, two

1418
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 7: point five million dollars a year, Like we're doing these

1419
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 7: ping pong tournaments, golf tournaments, these different galahs, and we're

1420
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 7: bringing in two three hundred thousand apart. But then you

1421
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 7: got the overhead. It's like, this is a waste of

1422
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 7: my time. So then I can go focus on business

1423
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 7: and boom, you know, I can generate more revenue. And

1424
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 7: that's why I said, like when I did that, when

1425
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 7: I stopped playing ball and I realized that. What I

1426
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 7: realized I was when in my transition twenty eighteen nineteen,

1427
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 7: I'm laying there on my gym floor to the same

1428
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 7: gym that you guys came to right, and I'm like, damn,

1429
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 7: this is mental health, like you're talking about wellness. And

1430
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 7: so I said, I ain't gonna put my time and

1431
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 7: I'm gonna put my time there. At the time, we

1432
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 7: was doing eleven nine hundred and fifty dollars a month,

1433
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 7: and I put that plan in place and within three

1434
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 7: months and I was like, if I hit if I

1435
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 7: see a community being built and I hit sixty thousand

1436
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 7: recurring monthly, I'm going all in. So that's how we

1437
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 7: got to the twelve. Those are the only two metrics

1438
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 7: that I was looking at community. And the way I

1439
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 7: was gauging the community was how many people lead it

1440
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 7: to work out this class and then they go to

1441
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 7: a juice bar and they sit their hang out. They

1442
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 7: like it right, just the next Peloton and next Soul Psycho,

1443
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 7: et cetera, et cetera. Within month three went from twelve

1444
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 7: thousand dollars a month to sixty five thousand. I said,

1445
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 7: fucking I got it. Here we go boom, and so

1446
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 7: then you know, pandemic hit. Things slowed down and then

1447
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,719
Speaker 7: right there year three, ten point five, four point five

1448
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 7: on a brick and mortar side, five point five on

1449
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 7: the media side. And now but it's.

1450
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 4: Everything every dollar in you know, it's going right back

1451
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 4: out like I was. You know, you're moving fast. It's like, shit, we.

1452
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 7: Going and do the deal with NASCAR, and we got

1453
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,839
Speaker 7: to take ten people. That's coming out of my pocket,

1454
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 7: like Cam said, iconic saga check that was coming out

1455
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 7: Brandon Marshall entity, you know what I'm saying. So it

1456
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 7: was because we wasn't We wasn't in any revenue then.

1457
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 7: And it's like boom boom, boom boom.

1458
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 5: But a lot of those things too, like you don't

1459
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 5: understand your business, and I think you have to acknowledge

1460
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 5: that too for people who are listening.

1461
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 1: It's like when you get these brand.

1462
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 5: Deals even though it says Cam Newton, I have to

1463
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 5: understand like, hey, I'm not paying Cam Newton.

1464
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:10,759
Speaker 1: I haven't paid Cam Newton through.

1465
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 5: Iconic Saga yet, and I've had Iconic Saga for like

1466
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 5: since twenty sixteen, Like we need better understanding of the

1467
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 5: business structure and what really is. It's like, no y'all

1468
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 5: using my name like this is it's still a talent.

1469
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 5: But knowing like hold on, I need to get the

1470
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 5: best equipment. I need enhancements around you know, the set,

1471
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 5: like I want them chairs like this. Now you know

1472
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like that's an Iconic Saga expense. So

1473
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 5: once you understand that, that's where okay, you're standing on business.

1474
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying.

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01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 6: I got two more questions for y'all. Wanted a broad

1476
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 6: question just about the NFL and one for you Cam.

1477
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 6: But start with the NFL question. Why do y'all think CJ.

1478
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 6: Shroud's thinking Jesus was edited out of his post game speech,

1479
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,799
Speaker 6: like if the league, you know, like not accepting of religion.

1480
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 6: I never I've always seen people think God. So why

1481
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 6: do you think that happened? I think that was NBC too, NBC, Yeah,

1482
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 6: it was NBC. Yeah, I think it. You know, look,

1483
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 6: now we're in a time where we're so divided, right,

1484
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,879
Speaker 6: and so you think about, you know why we're divided,

1485
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 6: the politics, religion, you know, and in different communities their

1486
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 6: points of views, and so when you think about business,

1487
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 6: they don't want they don't want that.

1488
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:31,839
Speaker 4: They just want football.

1489
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 7: And so I think it's wrong, it's disrespectful, but that's

1490
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 7: the answer. They're looking at business in the division like

1491
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 7: they want this audience to coming here just for ball.

1492
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 7: And then you go back to the pandemic twenty twenty, right,

1493
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 7: like twenty twenty showed us.

1494
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 4: You know, people were tired of talking politics.

1495
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 7: Remember that conversation, tired of talking politics, and that's where

1496
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 7: the conversation athletes shut up, do this. We just come

1497
01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 7: here for ball. So the drivel, that's right. So now

1498
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 7: they sitting here and they're like, well, let's take all

1499
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,799
Speaker 7: that other stuff out the game. We got through it already.

1500
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 7: We had in racism and the end zone of some

1501
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 7: team still have something some of those things. But the

1502
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 7: reality is these organizations is trying to get rid of that.

1503
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: What you thinking hold them accountable mm hmm, NBC hope

1504
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: they as accountable they're gonna do it too.

1505
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 4: If CJ.

1506
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 1: Stride would have said something controversial, they.

1507
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 5: Would have been running that, looping it, running it, saying

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01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 5: I'll give you another one. How do we mistake who

1509
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 5: burn a boy is?

1510
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 3: Can't we reported that this morning?

1511
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 4: Right?

1512
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 3: Mind you? He wont to Grammy lap.

1513
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 5: Hold these motherfucker's accountable. That's the only reason, because this

1514
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 5: is this is the the unfair treatment. You'll sit up

1515
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 5: and you'll hold an athlete accountable because of his performance.

1516
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 5: You'll hold an athlete accountable, or entertainers because of they're humans.

1517
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 5: But what do we say to these networks when they

1518
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 5: make their mistakes? We just overlook, Oh it's okay, cool.

1519
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 5: Now I'm coming for accountability on everybody, from the reporters

1520
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 5: to the players to the networks, because that shit ain't right.

1521
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: Shit.

1522
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 5: If I make a motherfucking take and I say these

1523
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 5: are gaming like, oh.

1524
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: Shit, brother, who the hell are you? You as trash

1525
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 1: as a player?

1526
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 4: Okay? Cool?

1527
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 5: But if I were to go back and I look

1528
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 5: at DJ Envy's personal life and I really put a

1529
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 5: microscope to it, and I really identify who's Charlemagne the God?

1530
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 5: Really is the kid from South Carolina and I really

1531
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 5: start asking those people, but that'd be me being malicious.

1532
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 5: But you're gonna do that when I make a mistake.

1533
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 5: Ain't this the same boy? They got all these kids,

1534
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 5: got all these kids. But if I start naming all

1535
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 5: the people who also got multiple kids. But y'all didn't

1536
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,480
Speaker 5: know that though too. So y'all gonna hold me accountable

1537
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 5: to something that different rules with different people, no whole

1538
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 5: everybody accountable. That's what the new norm of twenty twenty four.

1539
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 5: And if you call cap on me short the receipts

1540
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 5: by debot, Cam stopped calling me, motherfucker, I ain't call

1541
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 5: you now. He realized, like somebody was playing with you

1542
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 5: can't just sit up there and do that, goosey, So

1543
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 5: you know you're not a situation. So you know somebody

1544
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 5: was playing on his phone and these little white kids

1545
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 5: that came out and said that.

1546
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: But he goes online and say, like, yo, Bro, Cam,

1547
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 1: stop calling me. You just want to be on your podcast.

1548
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago. I'm like, Bro, that wasn't me.

1549
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: That's cool. But he tried to stand on business. But

1550
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: as we find out, and I'm my fan still like

1551
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: fan of Debo, like Bro like, how can I hate

1552
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: what you do? Like it was a mistake, But hey,

1553
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: you thought you got me, you didn't like, Bro, I'm

1554
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: where we have to start highlighting authentic people.

1555
01:14:55,840 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 5: I'm real, Bro. I go anywhere, anywhere, and I'm good

1556
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 5: because I respect everybody. Can't sit up here and what

1557
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 5: you're gonna have to say he dress goofy, Like, hell no, Bro,

1558
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 5: don't talking about me and my kids because you can't tell.

1559
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 5: Have one of my kids tell me I'm not the

1560
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 5: best father.

1561
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 1: I'm near. You know what I'm saying. I have. I

1562
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: love my kids, I want more kids.

1563
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. So don't don't make that

1564
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 5: plight with that situation. Because I'm extremely intentional. I give

1565
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 5: opportunities to people. Right, I'm looking at a guy right now, Omar.

1566
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 5: I will remember when he wrote his baggy ass suit

1567
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 5: in twenty sixteen and now I'm saying this.

1568
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:46,799
Speaker 1: But also we were walking.

1569
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 5: We were walking on Fifth Avenue yesterday and I sit

1570
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 5: up and I told him, I said, Bro, I'm proud

1571
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 5: of you.

1572
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 4: Dog.

1573
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 1: I see how you carry yourself.

1574
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 5: Now, Like, Bro, you got to do better because people

1575
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 5: are reporting to you and you have to also carry

1576
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 5: yourself how I carry myself. The level of accountability has

1577
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 5: to be from top down, not bottom up. And this

1578
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 5: is a dear friend or he doesn't work for me.

1579
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 5: We work as partners because he is oh a lot

1580
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 5: of the creation. Everybody right here the same thing. So

1581
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 5: I'm all about opportunities, and I know if I get

1582
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 5: that opportunity that a lot of people have had, I

1583
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 5: know what I'll.

1584
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 4: Do with it.

1585
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1586
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 5: So that's the accountability that has to be rendered in

1587
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 5: this media space because if you were to say something

1588
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 5: misinformed information, Oh damn, Brandon Marshall.

1589
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: In debt twelve no, hold onop, you know.

1590
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 4: What I mean.

1591
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 5: People are listening to this shit, they gonna think Brandon

1592
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 5: Marshall really in debt.

1593
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,759
Speaker 1: Twelve million dollars? That's twelve million dollars.

1594
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:01,640
Speaker 5: So we owe a due diligence to the content that

1595
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 5: we give out that it's as authentic to the truth,

1596
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 5: and if it's not the truth or if it's fucked up,

1597
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 5: we got to highlight that. Held on No, that's why

1598
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 5: Kat Williams was trying to do, and that's what he did.

1599
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 5: He just gave receipts collected.

1600
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 1: Him in information for years, he said, I was just

1601
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 1: been collecting information for years, and you.

1602
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 4: Feel like that was the right thing to do. Kat Williams, I.

1603
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 6: Mean, I can never tell somebody not to live their truth.

1604
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:33,560
Speaker 6: But I guess my issue was the same thing that

1605
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 6: Cam just said. And I said this on air. When

1606
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 6: you talk about power and control in a business, if

1607
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 6: all you're calling out is black people, then you're not

1608
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 6: really calling nobody out. Yeah, you know, you can't talk

1609
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 6: about power and control in Hollywood and not talk about

1610
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 6: these white executives.

1611
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: But I think too, what the best thing too, is

1612
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 1: that he was retaliating.

1613
01:17:58,360 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 4: From the past.

1614
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 1: Guess that came and spoke on something.

1615
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 4: He was like, no, that's not true. Some of them.

1616
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 4: Some of them he had already. He had that rhetoric

1617
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 4: for Kevin long, long time.

1618
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: But that's the thing, like we missed that.

1619
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 5: It's like, hold up, these guests were there before, and

1620
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 5: it's still subjective to who you're gonna believe, you know.

1621
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 1: But I look at it like this, I'm like, hold on.

1622
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 5: I text Christen Myers, right and I told her, I said,

1623
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 5: God damn club Shade Shape where they putting pressure on

1624
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 5: fucking Friday, And I love it.

1625
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm not hating on them, but do we feel like that.

1626
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: I don't feel like it's a competitive drive. It's not.

1627
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 1: It's not hating.

1628
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 5: He's bringing out the best version of me because I'm

1629
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 5: seeing his guest list country, Wayne did numbers, Kat Williams

1630
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 5: set press.

1631
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: I mean, we started off the year on fire. It's

1632
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a good year.

1633
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 5: And he's in that space where I'm saying, I respect

1634
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 5: Shannon sharp enough, a one of us type of guy

1635
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 5: played in the NFL has morphed into it better.

1636
01:18:56,160 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 1: We just seen a CBS Nate Burlison evolve and just

1637
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: get better.

1638
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 5: We see Mike Shanahan, Michael Straightanel straight hand like, these

1639
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 5: people are evolving and that's so different than what I'm

1640
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 5: doing right now. I'm evolving into a new version of

1641
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 5: who Cam Newton really is and I want to always

1642
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 5: stand on that authenticity where it's.

1643
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 1: Like hold on, well what happened to the cane? Like, nah,

1644
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,520
Speaker 1: this came right here, bro. I feel liberated.

1645
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 5: I can't wait to use my platform to impact, empower

1646
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 5: and entertained.

1647
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 6: Well are you are you coming out with a book

1648
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 6: on how to be the kind of man and makes

1649
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 6: a woman want to submit it makes a woman want

1650
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 6: to be submissive.

1651
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 5: I need to be coming out with a book that

1652
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 5: that that tail. We need men to start being men

1653
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,600
Speaker 5: because I think I think that's the thing too, that

1654
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 5: that submissive line. I should have added also we need

1655
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 5: to be We need men to be men, because then

1656
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 5: I will ask DJ and B, how are you able

1657
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 5: to sustain your marriage for so many years?

1658
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 4: We don't talk about that. It's true, you know, and

1659
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 4: for aid.

1660
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 3: Twenty two years left, right, but we're able to you know,

1661
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:11,600
Speaker 3: to talk about it.

1662
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1663
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 5: So when I'm having these conversations and I'm and I'm speaking,

1664
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 5: I've never been married. So somebody would say, how the

1665
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 5: hell you get to talk about marriage if you ain't

1666
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 5: never been married?

1667
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:22,440
Speaker 4: You got relationships?

1668
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 1: But then I'll say this, how does Steven A. Smith

1669
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: talk about the NBA if he ain't ever been in

1670
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 1: the NBA? Right.

1671
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 5: I've had certain situations though that had garnered a lot

1672
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 5: of attention by me saying, you know, an alpha male,

1673
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 5: but a real man. I've seen my father do this.

1674
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 5: He knew when to allow the woman to lead. We

1675
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 5: need men to start taking accountability as saying like, bro,

1676
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 5: you can't just keep having these fatherless children, bro, But

1677
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 5: we highlight them in music, we highlight them in you know,

1678
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 5: different aspects. It's like, okay, he a great this or

1679
01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:00,600
Speaker 5: great that. That's what Charleston White did. Still accountability, you know,

1680
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 5: and he shunned Dion. I'm like, but did Deon do

1681
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 5: anything different? If you was in his position, would you

1682
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 5: not try to put your son on? So you can't

1683
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:13,600
Speaker 5: you can't be hypocritical to that.

1684
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 6: And it's not like it's not like his son not

1685
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 6: adult exactly, and he's put in his whole family like

1686
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,759
Speaker 6: the well off media, that's his son.

1687
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:25,600
Speaker 5: Like we put it's no different. Oh, I give you

1688
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 5: one even better. Why are we not talking about Sunday

1689
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 5: Night Football? Chris Collinsworth, you know who does the own

1690
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 5: field analysts? His son m with with coach and uh Harrison.

1691
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's his son. But we don't talk about that

1692
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 4: about Chris Sims.

1693
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 1: Chris No collins Uh collins Worth in the son right,

1694
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 1: how do we hold how do we hold the the

1695
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 1: Lonzo balls and the Lamar balls to his standard when

1696
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 1: we've seen what Archie Manning did for his sons?

1697
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 7: Were you talking about basically we talk about nepotism and

1698
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 7: that's like Bill Belichick's son, both of his son's defensive

1699
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 7: coordinator and also safety's coach, Andy Reid for his son

1700
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 7: when they went to the Super Bowl driving drunk, whatever,

1701
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 7: but his son was on the coaching staff.

1702
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 1: But that's accountability.

1703
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 7: Get the coach down in Jacksonville. He brings his son

1704
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,560
Speaker 7: in as a tight end. He make the team, but

1705
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 7: he gave him a spot.

1706
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 5: I'm not mad at that, but get account of bit, Like,

1707
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 5: let's start calling it what we're calling it and stop

1708
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 5: having these hold on, hold on, hold a shut up, no, Cam,

1709
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 5: don't say that. Let's keep talking about Dion Sanders. And

1710
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 5: it's not a black and white thing. It's more of

1711
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 5: like a real authentic thing. And when you I owe

1712
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 5: a service to the viewer, I owe a service to

1713
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 5: my community of people, my cond as. I would like

1714
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 5: to say, like they expect the honesty. But now I

1715
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 5: have to learn from the Larry I have to learn

1716
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 5: from the Oprah Winfrey's. I have to learn from the

1717
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 5: Shannon Sharps. I have to learn from, you know, everybody

1718
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:09,719
Speaker 5: that has a night show, the jay Lenos of the world,

1719
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 5: and going back on and seeing how they were able

1720
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 5: to Charlemagne, the guys to ask these tough questions, very savvy,

1721
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 5: and that's pretty much what it comes down to, being

1722
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 5: a student of the game and holding people kind.

1723
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 4: Of y'all brothers are doing it great.

1724
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 6: I guess they didn't talk to y'all all day, man, right,

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Speaker 6: make sure you check the I Am Iconic Tour and

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01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 6: the I Am Athlete.

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01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we did a couple of cities.

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01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 7: Now we feel like it's almost like a comedian of

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01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 7: perfecting their material. So, you know, we have this idea

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01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 7: of creating a live experience and so we were in Atlanta, Chicago,

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01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 7: and we feel really good about it. And now it's

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01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 7: time to what stand on business package.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't make sense, but that doesn't negate the fact

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01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 5: that we still got our individually owned ips, The Iconic

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01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 5: saga Is creates his original content, the fourth and one

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Speaker 5: Sports show.

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Speaker 1: Funky Friday.

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Speaker 5: You have h three productions that we know, I Am Athlete,

1739
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 5: Paper Route, things like that, and yeah, it's just gonna

1740
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 5: keep getting better and better. We'll be at you know,

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl as well. Uh, just collecting data. I'll be

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01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 5: on radio row at Fourth and one. I hope I

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01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 5: can see dak I hope I can see Martin I

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01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 5: hope I can see Jason McIntyre.

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01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 1: I hope I can see brock parody. I hope I

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01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: can see you know two a.

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Speaker 5: Tongue of a lower because unlike a lot of people

1748
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,719
Speaker 5: who just throw a grenade to leave shit, I'm pulling

1749
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 5: up with a knife.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I gotta be real close to you. It's

1751
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 4: the best. Come on. I'd rather had a conversation with

1752
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 4: come on. That's why.

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Speaker 6: That's why a lot of people in this space, I

1754
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 6: don't respect them. You too, really talking about folks talk

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01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 6: to them.

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01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 2: I had a conversation with them that that we appreciate

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01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: you brothers for joining us. Y'all guys invited any time.

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01:24:58,120 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: You know that.

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01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 3: So if you in town, pull on up. Just just

1760
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 3: come on up.

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Speaker 5: No see, I'm gonna tell you like I told you know,

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01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 5: uh Brandon, I ain't gonna keep doing freebiest, but you know,

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Speaker 5: stretch up the next.

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01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 1: Next time you gotta come on.

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01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:17,679
Speaker 4: Say less.

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01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.

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01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 5: We can look I'm not I'm not saying that. They say,

1768
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 5: y'all gotta pay me what I am saying. Hey, just

1769
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 5: return to faith.

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01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 2: And hopefully when we when we get our co hosts

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01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 2: Whenever that happens, you know, we'll all come together.

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01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 1: What happened?

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01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 4: I thoroughly enjoyed the conversation you had.

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01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 5: Hold on, hold on what happened before we get out

1775
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 5: of here? The people, the people I want to know.

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01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 4: With what with? Just hilarious? Oh, I loved y'all. Conversation on.

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01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:48,919
Speaker 3: Conversation like y'all, that was a music conversation.

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Speaker 1: What happened to?

1779
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 4: Just hilarious.

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Speaker 6: On the Breakfast Club, y'all, Cam Newton and Brandon Man,

1781
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 6: we appreciate them so much.

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01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,719
Speaker 1: Breakfast wake that ass up her in the morning.

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Speaker 4: The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: MHM