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Speaker 1: This one.

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 3: All Right, the game on Monday night's got a different

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Speaker 3: look to it now, Holy crow. The Jets, who I

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Speaker 3: have said many times before, are experts in one thing,

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Speaker 3: self sabotage. They've done it again. Now. Look, they might

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Speaker 3: get a bump from the firing of Roberts is in

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Speaker 3: casion in here. Robert Salla fired this morning by owner

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Speaker 3: of Woody Johnson as head coach of the Jets. Interim

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Speaker 3: head coach will be defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrick.

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Speaker 1: What are we doing now?

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Speaker 3: They're they're expecting a bump. You know, they're to get it,

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Speaker 3: and they'll probably get it on Monday night, and who knows,

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Speaker 3: they may even beat the Bills on Monday night. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but long term, this is not a solution. This is

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Speaker 3: a TNT plunger getting dropped on the box.

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Speaker 1: If you're Jeff Olbrick, if they come to you and

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Speaker 1: they say, hey, listen, we're gonna make a move at

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Speaker 1: head coach. We want you to be the interim Will

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Speaker 1: you do it? There's only one answer, and that is,

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Speaker 1: of course you'll do it. But you're gonna you gotta

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Speaker 1: say two. If we win this division, or if we

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Speaker 1: go eight and seven or ten to night ten, is

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Speaker 1: that we get in? If we get in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: even as a wild card, I'm the guy going forward.

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Speaker 1: You got to say that if you're jeff Olbrich, Yes

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Speaker 1: you do.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to be around for that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I guess.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's a forty million dollar decision. Right, You're gonna

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Speaker 1: get forty million bucks in your pocket for taking over

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Speaker 1: something you didn't en get a chance to. Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is you're you're taking over.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the owner of the Jets has given

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Speaker 3: you that. You can ask for it. That's great. You're

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Speaker 3: not kidding it? If we get are you gonna tell

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Speaker 3: me right now, right here that Woody Johnson's gonna listen

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Speaker 3: to Jeff Olbrick asked to be the coach going forward

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Speaker 3: if they make the playoffs when he's got visions of

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Speaker 3: Ben Johnson and Bill Belichick dancing in his head.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, Mike Rabel, there is no way that's true.

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Speaker 3: He's off.

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Speaker 1: That's true because if well Wood he could say anything

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Speaker 1: he wants and then say disrespect.

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Speaker 3: Not gonna do it, coach Olbrich.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, not at all. But you're right, But I

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Speaker 1: mean Odie Johnson says, unless when he asked, he said, listen,

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Speaker 1: we want you to be the interim head coach through

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Speaker 1: the rest of this season, then we're gonna ope. Then

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Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna go out and put out a search.

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Speaker 1: You want it or not. Now, there's no way, obri

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Speaker 1: it's gonna say no to it in any way, shape

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Speaker 1: or form. But he would probably he knows the NFL

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Speaker 1: is watching. Yeah, if he does a nice job or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But he's already got I mean, he's already got. Kyle

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Speaker 1: Shanahan called about him being a defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: That was the guy couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that the guy's gonna the guy's gonna fall

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Speaker 1: land on his feet when this staff is blown up

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Speaker 1: by the next head coach. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Right, But I mean, here's here's the irony of the

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Speaker 3: whole thing. Maybe it's not irony, but here's the interesting

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Speaker 3: component of this. This is the first time ever, I

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Speaker 3: think we know the Jets have washed through coaches. Usually

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Speaker 3: it is at the end of the season. This is

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Speaker 3: the first time the Jets have made an in season

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Speaker 3: coaching change since nineteen seventy six and Lou Holtz resigned.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't an owner, you know, inspired.

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Speaker 1: Ever fired anybody. They've never fired anybody mid season. Well,

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Speaker 1: not that this is mid season, early season, but yeah.

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Speaker 3: So here is the statement from owner Woody Johnson. This morning,

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Speaker 3: I informed Robert Salad that he will no longer serve

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Speaker 3: as the head coach of the Jets. I thanked him

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Speaker 3: for his hard work these past three and a half

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Speaker 3: years and wished him and his family well moving forward.

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Speaker 3: This was not an easy decision, but we are not

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Speaker 3: a different direction. Jeff Olbrick will serve as our interim

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Speaker 3: our talented team and attain the goals we established this offseason. Look,

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Speaker 3: So maybe he thinks he gets the bump, now moves

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Speaker 3: in the locker room changes.

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Speaker 1: But well, me, it's a fresh start form, no question,

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Speaker 1: that would be an invigorating and they get it. That

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Speaker 1: would extend obviously extend the bump they get from changing

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's got staying power. And we talked

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Speaker 3: everybody's head on a swivel. But I don't know that

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Speaker 3: it pulls the team in tighter together. It can create

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Speaker 3: of the season, and also going to get mine and

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Speaker 3: also going to hit my individual numbers so I get

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Speaker 3: my incentives in my contract as when what this picture

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Speaker 1: There's not too many incentives out there for most of

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Speaker 1: and if you're a veteran player, Uh, like you know,

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Speaker 1: Those guys aren't going anywhere. No, they're gonna sit they

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Speaker 3: In case anyone is wondering about the effectiveness of the

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Speaker 3: NFL clubs in their first game after a head coach

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Speaker 3: That's the record. Yeah, so slightly above five hundred. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I don't have how many of those teams this

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Speaker 1: This is different in a little bit because most of

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, the atmosphere is the atmosphere is awful.

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Speaker 1: They haven't won a game all that. This Jets team

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Speaker 1: is not that right, they're on a They've still they're

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Speaker 1: it's different for that.

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Speaker 3: And the complexion of the division has changed since the

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Speaker 1: And think about this. The Jets right now with a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, is it the right call to

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Speaker 3: We'll find out, and that's our topic of discussion, which

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Speaker 3: Here is we go around the NFL presented by Kalida Healthy,

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Speaker 3: official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. The Seahawks are

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Speaker 3: expected to place edge rusher u Chenna Noosu on injured

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs were without Isaiah Pacheco Rashi Rice, and though

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they really did. And Derek Carr left that game

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Speaker 1: so did the Saints. I mean, that's all. It's you're

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Speaker 3: Chiefs are very much in just win baby mode.

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Speaker 3: It's not pretty. They have some deficiencies due to some

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Speaker 1: We're just watching the highlights of the Chiefs Saints game

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Speaker 1: last night that played by Travis Kelsey, the one that

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Speaker 3: Juju Smith Schuster had a big day for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: I think he had like one hundred and thirty yards receiving.

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Speaker 3: We just saw Xavier Worthy go in on a end

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh people are suspecting that a quarterback change could be

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, as has been the case the last several weeks,

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Speaker 3: Topic of discussion for you today, What does the Jets

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Speaker 3: five fifty two, five fifty Those are the numbers to

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Speaker 3: get on board.

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Speaker 1: You just go through scenarios in your mind. And a

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Speaker 1: lot was made over about three weeks ago when Aaron

437
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Speaker 1: Rodgers came off the field after throwing the great touchdown

438
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Speaker 1: pass and Salah is going to give him a hug,

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Speaker 1: and Aaron gives him a two hands shit, He's like, no,

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Speaker 1: it's too early, right, Well, you know what's going to

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Speaker 1: happen when Aaron does that against the Buffalo Bills. Aulbrik's

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Speaker 1: gonna come over and Air's gonna give him a full

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Speaker 1: body hug, right, I mean, you know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know it's gonna happen. Roger's gonna come over,

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Speaker 1: give the guy a big bear and lift him off

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Speaker 1: the ground. Just he'll do it, just to make a

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Speaker 1: thing of it.

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Speaker 3: Cameras are on. Let's go to the phones, though, where

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Speaker 3: we got people waiting, and we go to Joe in

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Speaker 3: Williamsville to lead us off. What do you got for us? Joe?

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, it's funny because I was waiting for my

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Speaker 5: call for you to answer my call and listening to

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Speaker 5: your comments, and you answered my first question. I was

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Speaker 5: going to ask you if you thought Aaron Rodgers had

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Speaker 5: anything to do with the firing of Robert sala. I

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Speaker 5: guess you answered that very well. My second question was

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Speaker 5: I heard over the weekend from a friend of mine

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Speaker 5: that Josh Allen's contract was renegotiated and instead of making

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Speaker 5: I guess he was supposed to make thirty thousand this

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Speaker 5: year or not thirty thousand thirty million, and it's now

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Speaker 5: up to sixty million. And I just wanted to know

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Speaker 5: if you guys could clarify that, and because if the

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Speaker 5: bills were in a cap crunch, you know, why would

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Speaker 5: they decide to do that. Now I know that Joss

465
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Speaker 5: is being overwhelmingly underpaid compared to you know, like the

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Speaker 5: Jacksonville quarterback for example. But anyway, I'll hang up and

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Speaker 5: listen to your comments.

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Speaker 3: Guys, thanks you problem. They did a cap conversion to

469
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Speaker 3: save money on the cap this year. His cap hit

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Speaker 3: is thirty million this season, but his cap hit next

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Speaker 3: year is like sixty million, sixty four million dollars, So

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Speaker 3: they're going to have to do a new contract for

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Speaker 3: him next year. And look, with the way in which

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Speaker 3: quarterback salaries have gone up, you probably were gonna have

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Speaker 3: to do that anyway to get him more in line

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Speaker 3: with his proper market value.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, his cap hit this year is thirty million.

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Speaker 3: Right, but this offseason they did a cap conversion and

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Speaker 3: a restructure of his deal. He didn't get any new money.

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Speaker 3: They just restructured it to provide some cap relief to

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Speaker 3: help them absorb the thirty one million dollar cap hit

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Speaker 3: they took when they traded Stefan Diggs here. So that's

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Speaker 3: it's really bookkeeping more than anything else.

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Speaker 1: Here's what Josh's contract looks like. He's got a five

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Speaker 1: year remaining on the contract. Five years remaining on the

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Speaker 1: contract for two hundred and fifty million or just shouting

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Speaker 1: this year, just shy of two hundred and fifty million,

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Speaker 1: five years left on his deal. He twenty twenty eight

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Speaker 1: is the last year of the deal. The dead cap

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Speaker 1: hit if they'd cut Josh Allen, it'd before forty four million.

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Speaker 1: The dead cap hit next year. That's next year. Dead

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Speaker 1: cap this year if you trade him is twenty nine million.

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Speaker 1: So he's absolutely as far as quarterbacks go, he's dirt cheap.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But it's what's important to know is this, they're

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Speaker 3: going to redo his deal next year because they don't

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Speaker 3: want a sixty four million dollar cap hit on run player,

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Speaker 3: So they'll redo his deal, spread out the money and

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Speaker 3: that that's got to get done next offseason. So because

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Speaker 3: it's coming up here quick in twenty twenty six, his

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Speaker 3: cap hit next year is forty three but in all

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Speaker 3: likelihood they're gonna probably tear it up next year and

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Speaker 3: redo it. Maybe they wait another year. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: but I would like to think knowing where the quarterback

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Speaker 3: salaries have gone, they'll probably get him more in line

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Speaker 3: with some of the top guys in the league.

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Speaker 1: Even if they don't redo the deal, they could very

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Speaker 1: easily just say Josh, we're gonna stick with this deal.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna give you like next year's salary as a

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Speaker 1: bonus throughout the to the contract, and we'll guarantee an

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Speaker 1: extra twenty five or thirty percent of the total deal,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they'll give an extra guarantee

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Speaker 1: of another fifty million bucks at the other end or whatever.

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Speaker 1: So right now he's probably got I don't know how

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Speaker 1: many much he's got guaranteed. Probably of a two hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty million dollar deal he probably had I think

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Speaker 1: it was like one hundred and twenty million guaranteed or

517
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Speaker 1: something like that. They'll say, we'll we'll just keep we'll

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Speaker 1: put it, give it to you and bonus next year,

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Speaker 1: and we'll guarantee another forty million just in case anything happens,

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Speaker 1: you know, and what and you.

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Speaker 3: Know, of course Josh should take the money back to

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Speaker 3: the phones and to Kevin and Hamburg.

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Speaker 6: What's up, Kevin, Hey, guys, how you doing. Thanks for

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Speaker 6: taking my call to answer your question. It worries me

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Speaker 6: a lot terribly about the change. And I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 6: And I'm gonna harken back to the same difference last year.

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Speaker 6: Last year, the weekend we beat the Cowboys, the Chargers

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Speaker 6: get embarrassed by their rival, the Raiders, like sixty six

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Speaker 6: to thirty or some ridiculous thing. They fire Staley, which

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Speaker 6: they were gonna fight him anyway, but that and they

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Speaker 6: bring in kiss Smith. I don't think he was still

532
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Speaker 6: in the building somewhere, and he was stick almost break

533
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Speaker 6: our Christmas in half by beating us. Now, it wasn't

534
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Speaker 6: the best Bills game. Some people say it was maybe

535
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Speaker 6: a letdown from spanking the boys so bad, but they

536
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Speaker 6: owned those two guys. If it wasn't a big touchdown,

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Speaker 6: I think it was the game Davis from Allen like

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Speaker 6: eighty yards. Our Christmas would have been football wise totally bombed.

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Speaker 6: So they did you hang up?

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I get what you're saying, Kevin, I understand

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Speaker 3: the concerned defense actually closed out that game at Oliver

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Speaker 3: had a big sack at the end as they were

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Speaker 3: clinging to what I want to say was a two

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Speaker 3: point lead. I think they won that twenty four to

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Speaker 3: twenty two and needed to get a defensive stop at

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Speaker 3: the end, and Ed had a big sack which kind

547
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Speaker 3: of almost ran the clock out completely, and they could

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Speaker 3: not get in field goal range for their kicker, Cameron Dicker.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean there usually is a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a bump in performance when a new coach takes on,

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Speaker 3: you know, the helm. They want to you know, kind

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Speaker 3: of rally around that guy. So I think the chances

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Speaker 3: of that taking place Monday night are very real. And

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Speaker 3: can the Bill's weather that storm in a hostile atmosphere.

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Speaker 3: We'll have to see it's you know, they they to

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Speaker 3: your point. They had to do it last year on

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Speaker 3: the road against the Chargers and a backup quarterback, and

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Speaker 3: they wanted by the skin of their teeth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so by yeah, that was a very it was

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Speaker 1: a narrow victory, very close game last year twenty two,

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Speaker 1: twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, your concerns are valid. Concerns are valid.

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Speaker 3: So we'll take more of your calls here when we

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Speaker 3: get back, as we are wide open for calls here

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Speaker 3: in the first hour of the show. Got ESPN's dan

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Speaker 3: Orlofsky coming up in hour number two. He'll talk about

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Speaker 3: this firing of Robert Salain, the upcoming matchup with the

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Speaker 3: apple of your Buffalo Bills. Hall of Fame coach Tony

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Speaker 3: Dungee with an interesting take on the Jets firing today.

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Speaker 3: He said, quote, I don't know what the Jets ownership

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Speaker 3: is thinking. In nineteen ninety nine, my Tampa Bay Buccaneers

577
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Speaker 3: were two and three and we went on to go

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Speaker 3: to the NFC Championship game. I'm glad I didn't get

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Speaker 3: fired after Week five that year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, yeah, it.

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Speaker 3: Is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna yeah, this is not that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get back to the phone calls. At eight

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Speaker 3: o three oh five fifty. You got a lot of

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Speaker 3: people holding. We'll move through them as quick as we can.

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Speaker 3: To Mike and Amherst. Next, what's up, Mike?

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Speaker 8: Hi, guys, just a couple of things. So to answer

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Speaker 8: your question, I am concerned. But really the reason I'm

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Speaker 8: concerned is because I think the casts out of the

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Speaker 8: bag with how to stop a Joe Brady offense. We've

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Speaker 8: become way too predictable on first and second down, and

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Speaker 8: I think if I'm the Jets, I'm sending run heavy

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Speaker 8: defenses out on first and second down, and then on

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Speaker 8: third down, I'm sending blitzing and pressure packages because as

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Speaker 8: the Ravens and Texans have shown, higher receivers can't get separations.

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Speaker 8: So as long as you get pressure quick, you're just

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Speaker 8: betting on the fact that our guys can't get open.

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Speaker 8: So from that perspective, I'm concerned. My second thing I

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Speaker 8: was going to say, I don't know what saw McDermott

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Speaker 8: or Joe Brady do in their meetings. I'll tell you

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Speaker 8: right now. If I'm running practice today or meetings, the

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Speaker 8: very first thing I'm showing is Josh Allen's had bouncing

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Speaker 8: off the turf, and I'm advising my receivers that your

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00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 8: all world generational talent has been blown up in back

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Speaker 8: to back weeks because none of you can cause separation

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Speaker 8: or win your routes. They need to do better and

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Speaker 8: be better. The only way we're going to win the

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Speaker 8: Super Bowl is if we stop seventeen from getting smoked

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Speaker 8: by these defenders. So that's what I got to say.

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Speaker 8: Hope you guys have a good day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, Mike.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, yeah, there's a lot in them, Mike.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say this and I'm going to ask

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Speaker 3: Dane Orlovski about this in the next hour. If there

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Speaker 3: is one noticeable thing that has disappeared from the offense

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Speaker 3: since Week three, it is pre snap motion after four game.

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Speaker 3: After three games, the Bills were fourth in the league

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Speaker 3: in percent of offensive plays that had pre snap just

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Speaker 3: over eighty percent. That has gone completely away, not completely,

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Speaker 3: mostly gone away in weeks four and five. And I

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Speaker 3: think it is critically important to helping the receivers on

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Speaker 3: this roster get separation. Secondarily, it helps give Josh a

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Speaker 3: preview of what the defensive coverage is going to be. Now,

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Speaker 3: it is a well known fact that executing a lot

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Speaker 3: of pre snap motion on the road is more difficult

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Speaker 3: because communication is harder in a noisy environment. But I

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Speaker 3: think you got to find a way to do that

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Speaker 3: to get these receivers open more often, and there are

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Speaker 3: other means by which you can do that, and Steve

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Speaker 3: can probably talk about that better than I can. And

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Speaker 3: then to your other point, yes, they are running the

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00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 3: ball too much on first down. As a matter of fact, Buffalo,

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00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: which under Brian Dayball and Dorsey, was often top three

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Speaker 3: in the league in passing rate on first down. Right

635
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Speaker 3: now after five games, is thirtieth in the league in

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Speaker 3: passing rate on first down. They have run on first

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Speaker 3: down a ton. But here's the thing, if you're a

638
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 3: good coach, you use that tendency to your advantage in

639
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 3: a game like this against the Jets, because the Jets

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00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 3: are gonna see that and they're gonna be coming downhill

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Speaker 3: on first down. Best thing you can do. Put Josh

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00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: under center and run play action and they'll be opportunities.

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Speaker 3: So if you self scout and you find out you're

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00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: doing something way too much, use it to your advantage

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Speaker 3: the next week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say this too. Brownie and I were talking

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Speaker 1: about this the Jets last week against Minnesota. They absolutely

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Speaker 1: dared the officials to make calls in the secondary and

649
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: the officials were calling Sauce Gardner for holding a ton

650
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: and they just bank on the fact that they're just

651
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: gonna get tired of throwing the flag. And they're right.

652
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: That's what Baltimore Ravens have done throughout the year.

653
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 3: Took a page out of the Ravens book.

654
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: They just they just don't care, and they're gonna hold

655
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: and grab the receivers every single play and just dare

656
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: the officials to throw the flag and they're gonna get

657
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 1: the advantage because of it. And if you've got particularly

658
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: against a bunch of receivers like the Bills, who, as

659
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: everybody said, is if they're struggling to get separation, they're

660
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: gonna see it on film. They're gonna say, listen, we'k

661
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: that's it. We're you know, there's not gonna be anybody

662
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: for Josh All to throw the football too, and that's

663
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Speaker 1: what they'll do. And so I think that's going to

664
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Speaker 1: be as big a factor as well. Certainly you're right

665
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: about Josh banging his head off the turf, but don't

666
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna take the coaches to stand up

667
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: and and and embarrass players or whatever uh and say, hey,

668
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: this is happening because you can't play. They're not gonna

669
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: do that, and they don't need to. These aren't high

670
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: school football players. They're pros. And when they know what's

671
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: happening just like you do, and they know the reason

672
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: every play breaks down, and when it starts to break

673
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: down for the same reason again and again and again,

674
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: you don't have to point the finger anybody. They're sitting

675
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: there and they know it. So Yeah, that's everybody takes

676
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: responsibility and pass protection. And for Josh getting his you know,

677
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: getting his head caved in so that there's not gonna

678
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: be they don't have to stop prior to do anything

679
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: different practice, but they do have to button it up,

680
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: no question about it. And you can bet that the

681
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: Jets are gonna come after Josh Allen. They're gonna do

682
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: exactly You're right. They are gonna do exactly what you said.

683
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: They'll pound on the run game and first and second down,

684
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: and they're gonna send extra people on third and they'll

685
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: just dare the bills to get open. Quick.

686
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 3: Back to the phones and to Glenn in New Fame.

687
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: What do you got for is Glenn?

688
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 9: Well, good afternoon. Thank you. You guys pretty much just

689
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 9: discussed Well, I was on hold five points regarding the

690
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 9: Jets game. Pretty much hit the nail on the head

691
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 9: on all five of those. So I'll just do my

692
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 9: one other thing if I can ask Steve a question. Steve,

693
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 9: you guys got together. I saw the pictures that Andre

694
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 9: posted on X of you guys getting together in Chicago

695
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 9: with Marv.

696
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. This last weekend.

697
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 9: Now, I recognized everybody in the picture. This has been

698
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 9: driving me nuts. I don't know if I'm getting compulsive

699
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 9: disorder or something. But there was one guy I did

700
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 9: not recognize in the back row in the picture, not

701
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 9: Don Beebe. There was one other guy on the right

702
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 9: hand side.

703
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, this we're showing a different picture here now. I

704
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: think you're talking about John Kidd, who is a former.

705
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 9: Was I guess that it was John Kiddy?

706
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: Don Was? There's a picture again that I another picture

707
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: that we were in a Harry Carey's having dinner with

708
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: mar We're about to have dinner with Marv and we

709
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: had to drink beforehand, and we were hobnobbing and stuff,

710
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: and they set aside a spot for us in the bar. Yeah,

711
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: this is it. Yes, how is Marv?

712
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 9: How is Marv doing? Was? He looked very excited to

713
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 9: have all you guys back together.

714
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: As you imagine, Marv's fantastic. He's ninety nine, so wow.

715
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: He he doesn't hear as well as he used to,

716
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: but he's got the same sense of humor, and he's

717
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: he's he's not very steady on his feet, although he's

718
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: strong and can walk. He's balanced is not what it

719
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: should be. But the guy's in the picture if you're

720
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 1: watching the if you're looking at the TV now, from

721
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: left to right, it goes Darryl Talley and then next

722
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: to him is John Kidd. In front of them is

723
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: Bruce Smith, then Jim Kelly, and behind Jim is Don

724
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: Beebie in front, next to Marv's Thurman, behind Marvis Andre.

725
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: Marv's in the front right, and of course I'm next

726
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: to Marv and then Cornelius Bennett is on my shoulder.

727
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: Almost guy there and not in the picture is all

728
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: our wives were there too?

729
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 9: Yeah? Did you watch the Bills game altogether?

730
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: Yes, we did, which was probably a huge mistake for

731
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: me anyway, and I'm Mark. Listen, if you've ever watched

732
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: a game, picture the most obnoxious fan you could not obnoxious,

733
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: that's not true. Boisterous boys, I don't know, the loudest

734
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: and most Watching the game with Thurman and Daryl was

735
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: an absolute mistake, an absolute missy. I love those guys,

736
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: They're like family to me. But man, oh man, are

737
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: they angry fans? Boy? Oh my gosh. Marv's great. I

738
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 1: love mar I watched with him and Cornelius, you know, Jim,

739
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: all those guys, But man, o'man and particularly when they

740
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: came out and threw the ball. Picture Thurman Thomas. When

741
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: the Bills came out and threw the ball three straight

742
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: times inside their five own five yard line and with

743
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: a minute to go, it wasn't pretty. So, yeah, that

744
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: was pretty funny. It's a great weekend though, Thanks for

745
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: but yeah, I appreciate for the I appreciated that. Yeah,

746
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: it was a fun time.

747
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: Gotta move on, though, because you got a lot of

748
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 3: people on hold here, let's go to Mark in Jersey

749
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 3: sitting next.

750
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: What's up Mark, Good afternoon, gentlemen.

751
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 10: Steve, I swear you dropped little nuggets all the time.

752
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 10: I'm I'm sorry. Seebee, you said something about being detailed

753
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 10: and being buttoned up, and then lo and behold, here

754
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 10: comes mcdermot's four o clock press conference and says the

755
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 10: same thing. We're not as detailed as enough as we

756
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 10: need to be right now, so people should listen to

757
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 10: you a little bit closer. I'm glad that guy called

758
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 10: and asked that question. Because the guy was wearing a

759
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 10: black shirt and black plannel in the picture. John Kidd

760
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 10: was driving me crazy. I thought it was wol Wolford.

761
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 10: I would have never guessed John Kidd. I always associate

762
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 10: Chris Moore with being the punter. He was the under

763
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 10: in eighty nine. But the Jets, there's a lot of

764
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 10: individuals on that team, and that every the Chargers game

765
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 10: that was late in the year, the Bills were tired.

766
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 10: They were on a short week. That Chargers team, I

767
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 10: believe had a long week, right, They had played on

768
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 10: a Thursday, and they had just gotten wax with the Raider.

769
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 10: The Raiders put what sixty on them, so there was

770
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 10: a lot of things going on. The Bills had.

771
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 8: A west coast trip.

772
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 10: This is early in the year. What's the flight from

773
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 10: Buffalo to sum uh Yeah, So, I mean, you can't

774
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 10: even compare the two. The Jets are the Jets. Aaron

775
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 10: Rodgers is the head coach of that team. Albrook is

776
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 10: the head coaching title and there I think the Bills

777
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 10: have enough of their own problems to fix. It's not

778
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 10: like they're flying high, so they're gonna have a certain

779
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 10: edge to them. And I believe it's gonna you know,

780
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 10: I believe it's gonna be a good game. But just

781
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 10: it doesn't take much to get the MetLife fan base

782
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 10: or the Jet fan base out of a game. That's

783
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 10: it's not it's not high Mark. High Mark is a

784
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 10: different animal. Maybe Green Bay, Pittsburgh, very few environments compared

785
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 10: to it. You'll get that transient fan base out of

786
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 10: there very very quickly. Just get up on them. Can't

787
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 10: score three points in the first half, obviously, But thanks

788
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 10: for taking my call, guys.

789
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say this though, it's harder to do against

790
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: the Jets than it is maybe any of the teams

791
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: that the Bills have played thus far. Maybe Baltimore is

792
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: like that in Texas, because the Jets defense is elite.

793
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: It's really good. It's energetic, it's well coached, they're aggressive,

794
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: they're well coordinated. They got great defensive calls at the

795
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: right time. There. They are buttoned up. And that's why

796
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to get that Jets crowd out

797
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: of the game to be that successful early on, because

798
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: the Jets are just too good defensively. Now, offensively, they've

799
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: they've been vulnerable. And I hate to say that because

800
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers been there, but he's you know, he's

801
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: he's not behind a great offensive offensive line. Excuse me,

802
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: he's not behind a great offensive line, and he's not

803
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 1: as mobile as he once was. He's starting to get

804
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: beat up a little bit. He had a swollen he

805
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: going into this last game this last week. Then he

806
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 1: got whacked again in the pocket this week. So it's

807
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: like I said early on, a thousand snaps during an

808
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: NFL season is a long way to go to think

809
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna come out of it, you know, as a

810
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: forty year old with a bad achilles, it's gonna be rough.

811
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: And now he's got a bad knee and a bad

812
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: ankle too, so he's he's getting hit.

813
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very curious to see what the Bill's doing.

814
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: We'll talk about this more in the next segment because

815
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 3: we got to take a break. But yeah, they the

816
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 3: Vikings blitzed the hell out of them, and the Jets

817
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: couldn't pick it up, and he was on the run

818
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 3: the whole game through fifty four times because they couldn't

819
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: run the ball. Bills entered last week's game against the

820
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 3: Texans as the lowest blitz rate team in the league

821
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: fourteen percent. I don't think they called more than three

822
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 3: or four blitzes in the game, you know, and they're

823
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: right in it at the end defensively, So what is

824
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 3: their approach with Rogers. I don't know. I will say

825
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: this though, I'm expecting the Jets to light up the

826
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 3: Bills because they had problems picking up the Texans blitz right,

827
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: and Josh was a little skittish in the face of

828
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 3: the blitz, which usually is not joshreerwise, he has a

829
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 3: very high rating against the blitz.

830
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you look at the Bills defense. Agains used

831
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: to say, well they didn't blitz very much. Well, you

832
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: know what they had and we all talked about it.

833
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: You know, the long shot over the head to Nico Collins,

834
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: the big play they got nicked for. If you if

835
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: you stay on top of that and don't give him

836
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: that and everything else stays the same. The Bills give

837
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: up sixteen points in that game defensively without blitzing very much.

838
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: You know, you got to tip your hat to Bob Babbage.

839
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,959
Speaker 1: He that was that was a well coordinated game. And

840
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: you know his as we could see some of his players,

841
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, they got to get buttoned up. Like we said,

842
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: you got rookies, all you got three rookies that you

843
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: can think of off the top of your head that started

844
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: in this game. Keon Coleman, cole Bishop and Dwayne Carter,

845
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: you know, and you still hung in there pretty good

846
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: with a with a playoff team, minus five defensive starters,

847
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: and you're number one wide out target wise. It's you

848
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: got it. It was a tough game to go in

849
00:45:59,200 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: there and win.

850
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 3: Break time for us, more calls when we return here

851
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 3: on one Bill's Live Time. Now for this week's Coach

852
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 3: of the Week, presented by Legends for Week five and

853
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 3: Section six only in high schools, Phil Vecchio takes home

854
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 3: the honor after his team defeated MARYVLT twenty to twelve,

855
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: Bechio's first top three win in his career as head coach.

856
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 3: In Section five, it's Batavia High School's Alex Veltz after

857
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 3: he led the Blue Devils to a thirty two to

858
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 3: sixteen win over Honeyoy Falls. Oh Man, I always mess

859
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 3: this up Lima Or is it Lima Honeyey Falls Lima.

860
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: I think it is.

861
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 3: Both teams entered the game undefeated, Batavia at five and

862
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: oh Lima is now in first place in Class B.

863
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 3: Each coach will receive one thousand dollars for their program.

864
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 3: Honey Ooy Falls Lima.

865
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: So there you go, Honey Eye Falls.

866
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: Well, I know honeyoy. I know how to say that.

867
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: One honey what honeyoy?

868
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: Is that honey oy? It's not honeyeye.

869
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 3: Nope, it's honey oy that I do know, okay, but yes,

870
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 3: the only reason I got confused is when I was

871
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 3: in school. I took Spanish for like six years, and

872
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 3: you have Lima Peru, and because of the Spanish pronunciation,

873
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: it's pronounced lima right, but here you have the Americanized pronunciation.

874
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 3: It's lima okay, like Alligan, you know lima right?

875
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 7: There you go.

876
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 3: Probably spend too much time on that already. Let's get

877
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 3: back to the phones. At eight h three oh five

878
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 3: fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

879
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: the number to get on board. What does the firing

880
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: of Jets head coach Robert Sala mean for the Bills

881
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 3: in their Monday night matchup with the Jets six days

882
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 3: from today? You let us know. We go to Travis

883
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 3: in Rochester. What's up Travis?

884
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 4: Hi, guys, thanks so much for taking a call. Lifelong

885
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 4: Jeff fan, and I wanted to start by answering your

886
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 4: question about whether or not it will have any tangible

887
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 4: effect on the game. My short answer is no, and

888
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 4: The reason for that is because most of the time,

889
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 4: when you see these coaching changes, it's not schematic in nature.

890
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 4: For what you know, there's no schematic difference, it's really

891
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 4: sort of an emotive one. And Jeff Ulbrick was already

892
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 4: the emotional engine, particularly of that defense. So I really

893
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 4: think that the impact will be negligible when it comes

894
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 4: to that. But the bigger thing for me is Woody

895
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 4: Johnson made this decision in a more rushed way than

896
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 4: I think he normally would have. Robert Sala these past

897
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 4: five weeks has been the exact same football coach that

898
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 4: he has been for the past three years. Robert Thala

899
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 4: is also of Lebanese descent, and I really believe that

900
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 4: he made Woody Johnson angry and not to get political,

901
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 4: but for some other reason. And I think that expedited this,

902
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 4: and I think that's unprofessional, and I think it's a

903
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 4: big example of exactly why that organization is so poorly run.

904
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 4: But I do know they think very highly of Jeff Olbrick,

905
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 4: and he tried to you know, Olbrich had a foot

906
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 4: out the door anyway, He tried to take a lateral

907
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 4: move to San Francisco. This offseason and they didn't let him. So,

908
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: you know, Olbrick is highly thought of. I think he's

909
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 4: an extraordinary football coach. But I think the timing of this.

910
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 4: You may see that Sala wore a Lebany flag on

911
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 4: his arm this week in London, no Less, a place

912
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 4: where Woodie Johnson has very close personal and business ties.

913
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 4: I think that embarrassed him, and I think that made

914
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 4: him rush this decision, and I think he's using the

915
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 4: losses as cover in a very unprofessional way. Sala is

916
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 4: not a phenomenal football coach, but he knew that coming

917
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 4: into the season and he decided to keep him. Anyway,

918
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 4: I think he's using this as cover. I appreciate you

919
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 4: guys for taking the call.

920
00:49:58,360 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 10: I love your show.

921
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 4: You guys are phenomenal and thanks so much.

922
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Speaker 1: Thanks Travis.

923
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 3: Thanks Travis. Yeah, I mean, look, well, there's probably evidence

924
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 3: to that that you know, you kind of laid out, Travis,

925
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 3: be very hard to prove it, and that's probably why

926
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Speaker 3: Woody Johnson felt comfortable to making the decision that he did.

927
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's maybe I'm a little bit, probably more

928
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: apolitical than most people, so I don't know about all that.

929
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: It's all conjecture I heard. I read that theory online

930
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: as well and on social media as well, but I

931
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: kind of doubt that, not after three and a half years.

932
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: So I'm uh, yeah, you're right though about one thing.

933
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: It is. It's never a schematic change. Even we talked

934
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Speaker 1: a lot at length last year when they switched coordinators

935
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: in mid season here in Buffalo, it was going to

936
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Speaker 1: be the same offense with a new new guy calling plays.

937
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 1: And if jeff Fulbrick is the emotional leader that defense,

938
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: we get all that. Well, how about this, they might

939
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: get a bump because now he's the emotional leader of

940
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: the offense too. He's the head guy. So if the

941
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Speaker 1: offense gets a bump from his emotion like the defense

942
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: has played, they're gonna be a much better football team

943
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: for it, and they will get I think it will

944
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: make a difference. That's I did not know that about

945
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: jeff Ulbrick, although as the coordinator, you know, he kind

946
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: of sets the tone on that side of the ball.

947
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 3: He did, Yeah, he's called the place.

948
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: And if those and if if that emotional content spills

949
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: over or now gets for the first time given to

950
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: an offense that has needed a little bit of juice

951
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: that may be the ingredient they need to go and

952
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: do turn this around. It'll be interesting to see.

953
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 3: Break time for us here. Coming up an hour number two,

954
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 3: We've got ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlowski joining us. We'll

955
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 3: put the epitaph on Buffalo's week five loss in Houston

956
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 3: and look ahead to the week six matchup with the

957
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 3: Jets with Dan next here on one Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 3: by Collid of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

959
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

960
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 3: All right, back here on one Bill's Live, Chris brown

961
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 3: Seed Casper with you, and please to be joined now

962
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 3: by ESPN NFL analyst and Orlovsky, who joins us each

963
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 3: and every week and his appearance on One Bills Live,

964
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,880
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965
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 3: of the Buffalo Bills. All right, first the rehash here,

966
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 3: Dano Bills come all the way back from a twenty

967
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 3: to three deficit. Inspiring performance by their defense in the

968
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 3: second half. They get two fourth quarter takeaways, they get

969
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 3: a turnover on downs to take points off the board

970
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 3: for Houston, but the passing game was abysmal. Josh nine

971
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 3: of thirty. There hasn't been a passing performance with that

972
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 3: lower completion percentage in like thirty years in the league.

973
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 3: People are saying receivers can't get separation. I think pass

974
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 3: protection is a little bit of an issue as well,

975
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 3: and Josh was flat out off last week.

976
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's never one single thing. I think the specific

977
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 11: to Josh. The two things that stood out were one,

978
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 11: just a lot of misses downfield. There's probably four or

979
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 11: five throws and now they're I guess they're close misses,

980
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 11: but they're misses. You know. The thing that double moved

981
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 11: to Matt Collins should be a touchdown when you're Josh Allen.

982
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 11: The ball down the middle of the field adult the

983
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 11: Kincaid that gets broken up, that should be a touchdown

984
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 11: if you're Josh Allen.

985
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 2: So definitely some missus.

986
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 11: He was sped up and played frustrated and fed up again.

987
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 11: That's probably the one that sticks out. It is a

988
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 11: little bit more concerning for me is that's the second

989
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 11: straight week that we saw remnants of that instead of

990
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 11: the guy that has been so often the first three

991
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 11: weeks in control and kind of at pace. There's definitely

992
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 11: separation stuff in situations. And you know, I think part

993
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 11: of it is, you know, when you played you know,

994
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 11: Monday night football on Jacksonville, wanted to play a ton

995
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 11: of man coverage. Buffalo was obviously better. They were just

996
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 11: better on the perimeter. The past two weeks in Baltimore

997
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 11: and Houston, they're playing better coverage and their guys are

998
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 11: more physical at the line of scrimmage. That's the big

999
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 11: thing is there's not much separation at the line of scrimmage,

1000
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 11: much winning at the line of scrimmage, and so it'll

1001
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 11: demand more creativity, It'll demand more bunches and stacks to

1002
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 11: help those guys win.

1003
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 2: You know, those first couple.

1004
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 11: Weeks they were capable of a little bit just emotion

1005
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 11: and then trying to go kind of win one on one.

1006
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 11: So I do think as they've figured out who they

1007
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 11: were when it comes to those top tier teams in

1008
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 11: the AFC, that'll be more needed offensively.

1009
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: So you got this team that exploded out of the

1010
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: gate in the first three games and now stumbled a

1011
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: little bit. I guess better competition, no question about it.

1012
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: What do you think is there a personality you can

1013
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 1: attach to this offense? What do you like, what they're

1014
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: doing and what would you like to see more of?

1015
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean there's definitely a personality. I mean you're

1016
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 11: talking about making sure that you're able to kind of

1017
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 11: do anything whenever you want.

1018
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: I still think.

1019
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 11: Tackle poll in their run game is good. I think

1020
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 11: they're twelve personnel with those two tight ends zone run

1021
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 11: scheme is good.

1022
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: I think a little bit more of that twelve play action.

1023
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 11: And I know I've made that comment many a times before.

1024
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 11: I also think the twelve play action and I would

1025
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 11: say Joe needs to put more past concepts in out

1026
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 11: of that.

1027
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 2: You know, they have like two that they run and you.

1028
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 11: Know they're successful, but I think more that they could

1029
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 11: do out of that twelve personnel play action. They often

1030
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 11: just have like a deep curl of guys sit over

1031
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 11: the ball and then a kind of a flat route

1032
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 11: and so a little bit more variance in that. I

1033
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 11: do like their four by one when they get into

1034
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 11: the four guys strong and so I think there's an

1035
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 11: identity of you know, variety on the offense. They're just

1036
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 11: gonna have to the big thing. Steve is like they're

1037
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 11: just gonna have to figure out and I understand, you know,

1038
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 11: if you watch Kansas City last night. Very rarely was

1039
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 11: there ever a guy just kind of like go win

1040
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 11: or stand there and win. It was a stack, a

1041
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 11: bunch and inside outside release. So I think it's just

1042
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 11: a growing process for them offensively figuring out who this

1043
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 11: new group of wide receivers is against good good talent.

1044
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it also felt Dan and I haven't checked snap

1045
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 3: by snap to know this, but the last two weeks

1046
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 3: also have felt like there was a lot less pre

1047
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 3: snap motion to Buffalo's offense. And I realize running a

1048
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 3: lot of motion is harder on the road because of communication,

1049
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 3: but the drop seem precipitous. So that's part one of

1050
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 3: my questions in terms of solving that problem on the road.

1051
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 3: And then number two, they are running a ton on

1052
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 3: first down like they're I mean in terms of I mean,

1053
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 3: this is a team under Dable and Dorsey they were

1054
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 3: like first or second in the league passing on first

1055
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 3: down pass rate, and right now they are thirtieth in

1056
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 3: the league in first down pass rate. I understand it's

1057
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 3: gonna be different under Brady. They are gonna run more

1058
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 3: and they can run the ball. I mean, they were

1059
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 3: successful early in the game against Houston, but do you think,

1060
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 3: do you think that at least opens the door to

1061
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 3: play action pass on first down Monday night against the

1062
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 3: Jets in light of that sharp tendency.

1063
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: No doubt.

1064
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 11: So the running on first down, absolutely, that is something

1065
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 11: that you want to try and playoff of if you're

1066
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 11: doing the proper self scouting, well run football team organizationally.

1067
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 2: I believe they will.

1068
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 11: The second thing is in regards to that, you know,

1069
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 11: there is you want to say this the right with

1070
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 11: there is definitely that concerted effort to make sure Josh

1071
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 11: walks the fine line.

1072
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: You know that, And that's.

1073
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 11: A little bit to the play calling of let's just

1074
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 11: settle the quarterback in not only within the game, but

1075
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 11: within the drive. And so that first down, trying to

1076
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 11: be efficient, getting to really healthy situations, and the awareness

1077
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 11: of like they don't have a killer on the outside,

1078
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 11: they don't have an offensive line that is absolutely dominant,

1079
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 11: and very few teams do when it comes to third

1080
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 11: and eight, right, So that's not just the centric to

1081
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 11: buffo things.

1082
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 2: So there's a little bit of that.

1083
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 11: And and Joe Brady said this on Monday night, and

1084
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 11: again money is only two weeks ago, you know where

1085
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 11: he said a big part of this is trying to

1086
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 11: figure out how teams are going to play Josh.

1087
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 2: It's no longer Josh and Steph.

1088
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 11: It's how teams defensively are going to play Josh, and

1089
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 11: I think.

1090
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 2: He's figuring that out the motion.

1091
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 11: It's that is going to be a foundational element of

1092
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 11: your offense, and it does need to be in Buffalo.

1093
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 11: You have to have the ability to do it anywhere.

1094
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 11: You have to no matter what, and so there's ways

1095
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 11: that you can make sure that you can. And it

1096
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 11: stresses intellectually everybody, and the study habits of everybody and

1097
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 11: the installation and the operation of everybody, no doubt. But

1098
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 11: if that is something that your team and offense needs

1099
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 11: to play to its best, then you have to make

1100
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 11: sure that you're capable of doing it anywhere.

1101
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: Well, early in the season, you know, there's this mantra

1102
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Everybody eats because they felt like they were

1103
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: going to be able to spread the football around. Nobody

1104
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: was going to be this alpha guy that was going

1105
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: to command targets. And yet in the first week or

1106
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: two there were eight guys that caught passes, nine guys

1107
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: that caught passes. There ten guys that were targeted This

1108
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: last week, only six guys caught a pass from Josh.

1109
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: What is there some benefit to focusing in and now

1110
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: as the season progresses, certain guys elevate And I know

1111
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: Kalishakir was not in the game he took you know,

1112
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: which is I think a high volume target guy for Josh.

1113
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: But what does it say about Maybe they're focusing in

1114
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: on finding guys that are now elevating and they're starting

1115
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: to trust more or do you like what they did

1116
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: in the first couple of weeks where everybody was an

1117
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: option and everyone's getting a ball here or there. Give

1118
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: me about the dynamics you think about that where certain

1119
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: guys don't they never know if they're going to get

1120
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: the ball. Does it affect their route running or is

1121
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: it a better way to run your offense?

1122
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 11: Well, if it affects their route running, you don't put

1123
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 11: them on the field until they get to a point

1124
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 11: where it doesn't affect their route running.

1125
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 2: You know, Andrew Hawkins.

1126
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 11: Is on with us with NFL Live, who has the

1127
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 11: experience of being in a Shanahan offense as I do,

1128
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Speaker 11: And I think there's emans of it with Joe, you know,

1129
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 11: one of his favorite Sayings is the right choice for

1130
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 11: the quarterback is the open receiver.

1131
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 2: And that sounds simplistic, but.

1132
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 11: That's kind of the at least the vantage point of

1133
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 11: what you want this offense to look like. Whoever gets

1134
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 11: open against the football, and you're not building plays for

1135
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 11: certain and or specific guys. So I did not feel, Steve,

1136
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 11: after watching the game, that there.

1137
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 2: Was this lack of.

1138
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 11: Ball placement or ball variety or the distribution.

1139
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: Of the ball.

1140
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, thank you. I didn't feel that way. Khalil plays

1141
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 11: He's going to get a catch and there would be

1142
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 11: seven guys. I honestly believe this guy's They took four

1143
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 11: or five shots downfield, If they hit two of.

1144
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 2: Them, they likely win the game.

1145
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 11: And there's a little bit of a different conversation, you know,

1146
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 11: And that doesn't mean that Josh would have been twenty

1147
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 11: or thirty. You know, Josh had those misses. But you know,

1148
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 11: when you're taking your shots against the really good Houston

1149
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 11: and you miss, like I have missed one, two, three,

1150
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 11: I have five shots down the field that they just

1151
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 11: miss and he just overthrows or doesn't connect on them.

1152
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 11: If he hits two or three of those, it's a

1153
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 11: different game, different stat line, different feelings, so when you

1154
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 11: take them, you got to make them okay.

1155
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 3: So let's spin it forward to the Jets here. Number

1156
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 3: two defense in football not going to be easy. They

1157
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 3: historically make life very difficult for Buffalo's offense. They've had

1158
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 3: to earn every yard they get, especially in the first

1159
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 3: meeting of the season with them seemingly every season. What's

1160
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 3: the approach here, because you know, they better be ready

1161
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 3: to play a physical brand of football. They weren't two

1162
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 3: weeks ago against the Ravens. They have to be ready

1163
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 3: to bring it up front, that's number one. But as

1164
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 3: I was saying earlier, I think first down play action

1165
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 3: under center can get a lot of stuff done here

1166
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 3: early on to at least make the Jets maybe back

1167
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 3: off a little bit. But they're going to be charged

1168
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 3: up under Olbrick as interim.

1169
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1170
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Speaker 11: So Buffalo defensively, the key in this game is going

1171
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 11: to be how their edges play versus the Jets. The

1172
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 11: Jets offensive line, at least the interior, really the tackles

1173
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 11: have been okay. Now, they haven't gotten up to the

1174
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 11: second level in their run game, and they're really bad

1175
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 11: on first down. In second down, running the football really bad.

1176
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 2: So the speed of the.

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Speaker 11: Linebackers is going to be huge because the Jets have

1178
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 11: struggled to get to those. But really, when they get

1179
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 11: a defensive end against the Jets tight ends in the

1180
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 11: run game, you gott to whoop them. Because that's been

1181
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 11: the case for the past couple of weeks against the Jets.

1182
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 2: Offense, You're not gonna get fooled much.

1183
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 11: This is, you know, an offense that is relatively predictable.

1184
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 11: You're gonna have a good idea of what they want

1185
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 11: to do offensively. It's been their downside and so you

1186
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 11: know that's got to be something where they get very

1187
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 11: clued into what the Jets want to do offensively, because

1188
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 11: that's kind of the success that Minnesota had. They won

1189
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 11: first down, they crashed in, you know, their defensive ends dominated,

1190
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 11: and they force it into a passing game for the

1191
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 11: Jets off the Bills offense. If you watch that Jets

1192
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 11: defense against Minnesota's offense, the overwhelming thing that stands out

1193
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 11: is they went into that game and no one could

1194
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 11: tell me otherwise and said, make the officials throw the flags.

1195
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 11: Make on the back end, make them throw the flag.

1196
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 11: And they didn't that much. Three or four times they

1197
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 11: could have done it every play, and so coming off

1198
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 11: of last week lack of separation, the Jets are going

1199
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 11: to challenge Buffalo on the perimeter to get open down

1200
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 11: the field and either win or force flags. And that's

1201
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 11: going to be the biggest chance for that offense.

1202
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 3: All right, So let me follow that up with this,

1203
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 3: because I was a proponent of this, I think James Cook,

1204
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 3: next to Josh Allen, is your most dynamic athlete on offense.

1205
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 3: What about featuring him more in the passing game knowing

1206
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 3: he is a player who can get consistent separation totally and.

1207
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 11: That should be the case on a week to week basis. Now,

1208
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 11: the Jets linebackers are playing really good. Quincy Williams is

1209
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 11: playing fantastic. The only thing you gotta be really smart

1210
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 11: with is if you have James and you use him

1211
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 11: as a pass catcher, you're then likely doing one of

1212
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 11: two things. More often than not. You're taking away a

1213
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 11: tight end in the past concepts because you probably need

1214
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 11: somebody just as a chip help occasionally or an extra

1215
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 11: body in protection, or you are only going five man

1216
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 11: protection and you're vulnerable to a good pass rush unit

1217
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 11: or a pressure unit that can get after So that's

1218
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 11: kind of that cat and mouse game that Joe Brady's

1219
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 11: gonna have to be really good at. It's picking the

1220
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 11: moments when he does it with James and not just

1221
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 11: living there because there are downsides to it.

1222
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 1: Give me an idea about this coaching change in New York.

1223
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: It's obviously it's a little seismic shift for their club.

1224
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 1: You've seen Aaron Rodgers. I don't know if you may

1225
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: even have a relationship with Aaron. I don't know, but

1226
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: it does seem like he's the massive elephant in the room.

1227
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't think he's the guy that called the shot

1228
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: on Robert Salah, which you know, all the memes on

1229
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: the internet are saying, now Aaron is the true head coach.

1230
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: But it is a strange dynamic there. Yeah, what do

1231
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: you think the end result is?

1232
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 11: Well, first of all, you're not making this move unless

1233
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 11: you're having some form of communication with Aaron Rodgers.

1234
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 2: There's no shot. Okay.

1235
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 11: So there's obviously an immense amount of pressure on Erage

1236
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 11: coming Aaron coming into this season, probably more than anybody

1237
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 11: in the NFL, and it's only elevated.

1238
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 2: You know.

1239
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 11: I think the reality is this team has been let

1240
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 11: down by its offense the past two weeks, great elite

1241
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 11: defensive efforts that have been let down.

1242
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 2: But it's not just the quarterbacks playing bad.

1243
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 11: They if they want change, like if they want this

1244
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 11: to get better, okay in New York, no matter who

1245
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 11: the jeff Oldbrick, who's their new head coach, the scheme

1246
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 11: has to become more modern. I don't care what anybody's

1247
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 11: It has to become more modern. You can't stand still

1248
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 11: in the NFL nowadays.

1249
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 2: If you're going to you better go get DeVante. That's

1250
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 2: the starting point.

1251
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 11: Number Two, they got to be better on early downs

1252
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 11: on offense. They gotta be they don't. They average three

1253
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 11: point three yards on first and second down. It's worse

1254
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 11: than the NFL. Okay three, you know, like, yes, Aaron's

1255
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 11: got to play better, but they got to get more

1256
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 11: winners on the outside. So I don't know what the

1257
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 11: end result is, but I do know this.

1258
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 2: It's a football team that's got.

1259
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 11: The chance to be very good because the defense is

1260
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 11: still very good, but there has to be fundamental changes

1261
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 11: with the way they go play.

1262
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 3: So last one for me on that Dan, you look

1263
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 3: at their inability to run the football and you've got

1264
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 3: two very athletic, big body backs in their backfield, you know,

1265
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 3: in Hall and Allen. What is what is the problem

1266
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 3: are they? Is the lot Like I know you mentioned

1267
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 3: the lines not getting to the second level in the

1268
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 3: run game, but those are guys that can fall forward

1269
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 3: and get yards on their own. I mean, they're big, massive,

1270
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 3: athletic guys. But what or are they just not running

1271
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 3: it enough? Do they just not believe they can run

1272
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 3: the ball.

1273
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 2: No, they're trying to now.

1274
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 11: I thought they did it too much against Minnesota, and

1275
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 11: that's when you get into super deep game plan specific

1276
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 11: thought processes.

1277
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 2: So the backs are really good. They are.

1278
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 11: What's really a part of this, Chris is like, dude,

1279
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,799
Speaker 11: Denver and Minnesota got awesome defenses. Awesome defenses. So that's

1280
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 11: you know, we've lost sight of that in this whole

1281
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 11: conversation about their offense. But when you're not getting to

1282
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 11: the backers and the edges of you as an offense

1283
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,759
Speaker 11: are just getting punched in the face, it's hard.

1284
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 2: To run the ball.

1285
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 11: It just is, you know, against good defenses. So they

1286
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 11: got to get more efficient at that. They've played a

1287
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 11: lot of really good defenses this season. I don't have

1288
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 11: a ton of Oh my gosh, the world is ending

1289
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 11: feelings about their offense. I still believe this offense in

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Speaker 11: New York that makes a couple changes and improves a

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Speaker 11: little bit can perform way better.

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Speaker 1: Dan, Thanks man, appreciate you coming in spending some time

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Speaker 1: with us.

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Speaker 2: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlowski join us

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Speaker 3: as he does every week on Tuesdays, and we'll catch

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Speaker 3: up with him next week at this time to kind

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Speaker 3: of rehash what happened in the Monday night affair between

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Speaker 3: the Bills and Jets, which is what we're asking you about.

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Speaker 3: How does the head coaching change made by the Jets

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01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 3: impact the Bills going into Monday Night's game against their

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Speaker 3: New York rivals. Eight three, five point fifty one eighty

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Speaker 3: eight five fifty two, five fifty to Kevin in Williamsville. Next,

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Speaker 3: what's up, Kevin?

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Speaker 12: Tell us how you doing today?

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Speaker 1: Good? Good?

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Speaker 12: Good? Mary Wilson back on that picture, I noticed her

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Speaker 12: as well, lovely woman. Yeah. Could it be to answer

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01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 12: your question that you've posed, could it be a challenge

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01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 12: as the Bills prepared for the Jets game that we

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01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 12: don't have any film or experience with this in terim

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Speaker 12: coach of his philosophies or game plan strategies that may

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Speaker 12: be totally new to us. Could this be a challenge

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01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 12: as we prepared to execute well? Related to that, unrelated

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Speaker 12: to that, real quick, if I met or go ahead

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01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 12: in the Bills Houston game on a couple occasions, Bill's

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01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 12: had momentum going beautifully on a couple occasions, and all

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Speaker 12: of a sudden, the Houston player goes down, stopping play,

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Speaker 12: and then the player comes back in the next play

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Speaker 12: just jumping around ready to go. I'd love to see

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Speaker 12: a new rule that that player whoever goes down stays

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Speaker 12: out for the series. Just a thought. And then finally,

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01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:43,560
Speaker 12: you know, Josh when he went down. I'm not a neurologist,

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01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 12: but you know, the way he hit the ground, it

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Speaker 12: certainly did look like had trauma. And I was reading

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Speaker 12: recently that you know, he didn't complete a pass after

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Speaker 12: that for the rest of the game. Thanks for everything, Sell.

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Speaker 1: They barely one.

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Speaker 3: For mine when he was not contest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't there's nothing new under the sun.

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01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy, what is he going to go

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01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: forward or not go forward on a fourth down?

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Speaker 3: Or really the only change that's looking at.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the only mate. He's gonna be more aggressive

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01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: and go forward on a fourth and three instead of

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Speaker 1: a fourth and one.

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Speaker 3: Or he's been calling the defense since he got there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he's Yeah. Defensively, they'll be almost identical. Offensively, Okay,

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01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you'll get a run play. Maybe he'll tell

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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, he'll say it's time to run the ball.

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Speaker 3: Now, Salad couldn't tell Aaron Rodgers what to do? Do

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Speaker 3: you think?

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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, but he may try. But that's

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Speaker 1: that's what you're worried about. You don't know. Nothing like

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01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: that is you know, there's no I don't think there's

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01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: anything of the unknown variety when you get a new

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01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: head coach like this at this short of notice, not

1348
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Speaker 1: even if it's nine days or eight days, that will

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01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 1: worry the Bills coaching staff.

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Speaker 3: As for you know, sitting a player down, they do

1351
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 3: have protections in at the end of games. You know,

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01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 3: if you have an injury and under two minutes, the

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01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 3: player not only has to leave the field, but there's

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01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,600
Speaker 3: a ten second runoff and that was put in to

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01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 3: keep teams that are ahead on the scoreboard from trying

1356
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 3: to run the clock down by faking injuries, which was

1357
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 3: a tactic back in the day. So that's why that

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Speaker 3: rule is in there, to get a guy to sit

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Speaker 3: out the whole series on a fake injury. I think

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Speaker 3: it's a gray area that's very difficult to prove or

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Speaker 3: unprove that yes, the guy is hurt or no, he's

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01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 3: not hurt. So there's always going to be a bit

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Speaker 3: of gamesmanship that takes place, and it happens in all sports,

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Speaker 3: so I believe it'll continue to happen. And you know,

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Speaker 3: you may have suspected that they were doing something the

1366
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 3: farious when the Bills got rolling on offense to kick

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Speaker 3: them out of rhythms, so to speak, and fake injury.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not going to tell you it doesn't happen.

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Speaker 3: It probably does. So if you felt that way, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we'll have to see if Houston does it in

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Speaker 3: future weeks. Keep our ear to the ground on it.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Judy and Buffalo. Here, what do you

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Speaker 3: got for his Judy?

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Speaker 13: Three points? Okay, First, you know, if Houston hadn't lost

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Speaker 13: their number one receiver in that game, we probably would

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Speaker 13: have lost that game by seventeen points. Secondly, we're going

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Speaker 13: up against the Jets at both teams excuse me, I

1378
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 13: hate to say this, but both teams are whole home teams.

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Speaker 13: I don't even know who's going to win this game. Web.

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Speaker 13: Three years ago, we were Super Bowl contenders, and for

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Speaker 13: some reason, we stopped drafting any offensive players when we

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Speaker 13: had the best quarterback in the league. When does somebody

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01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 13: start blaming Brennan Bean for the charges he has made

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Speaker 13: over these three years for whatever reason, I do not know.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, you're you're clearly interested in holding his feet

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01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,719
Speaker 3: to the fire, Judy, So I mean you didn't feel

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Speaker 3: that he drafted enough offensive talent. I'll just run down

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01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 3: the list for you and you tell me what you think.

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Speaker 3: We did. Have to let you go there because we're

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01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 3: up against the break. But here's your You said the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty one team was Super Bowl contenders. Okay, so

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Speaker 3: now let's fast forward to twenty twenty two. Here's your draft,

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Speaker 3: Kyrie Elam James Cook to rel Bernard Khalil Shakir. Those

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Speaker 3: are your top four picks. Cook and Shakir are pretty

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01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 3: important to this offense right now, and the two most

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Speaker 3: dynamic athletes you can on the offense. Besides Allen, you'd done.

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Speaker 1: And you can make it a case that they're not

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Speaker 1: great players if you want to do that, that's fine,

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Speaker 1: but their starter and they're not trying to replace those guys.

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty three first round pick. If you remember, the

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Speaker 3: Bills picked twenty sixth in that draft, missed the receiver

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Speaker 3: crop at the top of the round, and traded up

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Speaker 3: a spot to get the best tight end in the draft,

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Speaker 3: Dalton k and Kate. They then drafted a starting right

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01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,759
Speaker 3: guard who started right out of the shoot as a rookie.

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Speaker 3: You know, Osiris Torrance. He's struggling a little right now, but

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Speaker 3: let's see where it goes. Oh and their third round

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Speaker 3: pick was Dorian Williams, who looks pretty good, uh not

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Speaker 3: on offense. I get it. And then last year, Keon

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Speaker 3: Coleman is your first pick in the draft, and Ray

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Speaker 3: Davis is picked up in the fourth round. So I

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Speaker 3: mean you're talking about a number one tight end and

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Speaker 3: a potential future number one wide receiver in two of

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Speaker 3: the three drafts you're referencing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can make a case if you want to.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a little early to do that, but

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01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 1: you can make a case that none of those guys

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Speaker 1: are going to be any good. And I know you've

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Speaker 1: called up before wondering about is going to be very good.

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Speaker 1: I think it's way too early to talk about that

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01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: to any for any of these guys. They could all

1422
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: go belly up, or they could all flourish. But right

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01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: now the draft picks that your reference is not all

1424
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: on the field. They're all on the field.

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Speaker 3: James Cook, Khalil Shakir, Dalton Kincaid, Kean Coleman.

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Speaker 1: And so I have a hard time getting there. I'm

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01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 1: not as down on Brandon Bean's drafts as you are.

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01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 3: I guess break time for us. More of your phone

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01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 3: calls when we come back here on one Bill's Live

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01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 3: stay with.

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01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 1: Us all right.

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Speaker 3: Time for Heating Up and Cooling Down, presented by t

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Speaker 3: official partner of the Buffalo Bills. Heating up right now.

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01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 3: Steve Bill's defensive turnovers. Bills are near the top of

1437
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 3: the league in turnover differential thanks to the fact that

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01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 3: they've only lost fumbles this season. No interceptions from Josh

1439
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 3: Allen on the offensive side, and then defensive turnovers, including

1440
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 3: two last week in the fourth quarter.

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01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're plus seven in the turnover margin. And

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01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: that the play and we're looking at right now, the

1443
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 1: play that Terrell Bernard picked Offble was really unbelievable. When

1444
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 1: you look at it, you kind of understand what what

1445
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,759
Speaker 1: the thing was going what was going on there. It

1446
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 1: It takes a lot of preparation and understanding and then

1447
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 1: being on it that fast to react and then get

1448
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 1: airborne and make that catch what it was. It's truly

1449
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: a play. That's why you know, that's why you need

1450
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 1: guys that are that have got the game down from

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01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 1: the neck up. You know, that was totally a heads

1452
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: up play, an awareness play where he had seen it

1453
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,560
Speaker 1: on film and got to it and made play it was.

1454
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: It's a big time play from a young linebacker and

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01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,679
Speaker 1: that's why, you know, that's why those guys are great.

1456
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 1: Great players make you great, and that's that's the reason

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01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 1: right there. It takes a guy with that experience to

1458
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: make play like.

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Speaker 3: That, and hopefully they get more great players back in

1460
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:23,839
Speaker 3: the lineup from injury this week. Cooling down Buffalo's pass offense,

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01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 3: I think that one was probably relatively obvious in the

1462
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 3: wake of last week's performance. Steve and I were just

1463
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 3: talking about this during the break Bill's offense this year

1464
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 3: currently twenty eighth in the NFL at just under fifty

1465
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 3: six snaps a game, and it's due mainly to the

1466
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 3: fact that they can't convert on third down. This was

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01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 3: an offense that was number one in the league in

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01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 3: third down conversion rate in twenty twenty two and twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty three. This year they are twenty fifth in third

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Speaker 3: down conversion rate. So it's a big reason why they're

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01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 3: not so staining drives and staying on the field the

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01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks in particular. But third down conversion

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01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 3: rate has been a problem since week one.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 1: We we had one of the callers early on and

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01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 1: we've we've heard this before, and I kind of most

1477
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 1: of the time I was kind of poop pooed. I'm

1478
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: like rolling my eyes a little bit. But he's got something.

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01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 1: I mean, he said they were coming a little becoming

1480
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 1: a little bit predictable. They're running. They've run twenty out

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01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 1: of twenty six first downs, and they've run.

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01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 3: The ball the last twenty six.

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01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, the last twenty six first downs, they've run the

1484
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:31,719
Speaker 1: ball twenty times. And here's the thing, it's a ripple effect.

1485
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 1: Once you do that, you know, second and third down

1486
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: become a little more predictable because your first down is predictable.

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01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's something there.

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01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 3: Last week's game on first and ten eighteen run five pasts. Yeah,

1489
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 3: and look they had success running the football on first down,

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01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 3: especially early in the game.

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Speaker 1: And maybe that's a one game aberration, but man, oh man,

1492
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 1: it'd be nice to fake a handoff and go over

1493
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 1: the top on a play like that.

1494
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 3: When why I was talking to Dan Orlovski about that, Like,

1495
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 3: you've done this the last two games. Now it's part

1496
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 3: of your numbers, which undoubtedly the Jets will see on tape.

1497
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 3: Get Josh under center on first down and run some

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01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 3: play action on first and ten.

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Speaker 1: Yeah this week, Yeah, hopefully.

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Speaker 3: She'll be getting linebackers biting. You know how aggressive Quincy

1501
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 3: Williams plays and CJ. Moseley, if he's back from injury, plays,

1502
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 3: so take advantage of that. Yeah, I want to give

1503
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 3: your receivers space, you know, in coverage. Call some play

1504
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 3: action on first and ten. After running at a ton

1505
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:37,759
Speaker 3: on first and ten the last two games.

1506
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 11: Right.

1507
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how you use your own tendencies to ear.

1508
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 3: That's right.

1509
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 1: You get tendency breakers and stuff that breaks trends and

1510
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 1: you get some success with it. And in a game

1511
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:52,600
Speaker 1: like this the last couple of weeks, notwithstanding, although the

1512
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 1: Houston game was very close, it comes down to a

1513
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 1: handful of plays and you get one of those tendency

1514
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: breakers in the club doesn't see it coming, and it

1515
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 1: gives you an edge on a big play and something

1516
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,560
Speaker 1: that could turn the game and affect the outcome of

1517
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: the game. That's what it's all about. So we'll see

1518
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 1: we talk about it here. If we talk about it,

1519
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: certainly the Jets and the Bills are talking about it.

1520
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 3: Let's hop on the tweet sheet, which we have yet

1521
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,679
Speaker 3: to crack open. Here on the show tweet sheet brought

1522
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 3: to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equivalent moving

1523
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 3: company of the Buffalo Bills. What does the Jets coaching

1524
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 3: change mean for the Bills? Patrick leads us off and says,

1525
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 3: depends on how the players feel about Salah. I would

1526
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,679
Speaker 3: assume the defensive players aren't happy, but having the DC

1527
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 3: as the interim head coach will stave off any mutiny

1528
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 3: by defensive players, even though they know it was the

1529
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,799
Speaker 3: OC who should have been fired.

1530
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 1: Well, if all that's true, that spells good things for

1531
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 1: the Bills, because their defense, it would be hard for

1532
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 1: their defense play any betterness been playing. They're lights out.

1533
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 1: They're very good over there offensively. I mean, Aaron threw

1534
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: three picks last week, and the final was the decisive

1535
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 1: clincher down deep in.

1536
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 3: The first one was a pick six, right, so that.

1537
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 1: It was down deep in the other end in the

1538
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 1: end that they were going to go into to win

1539
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 1: the game. So, yeah, the more their offense struggles, the

1540
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: better for the Bills. And he's right, they this smacks

1541
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of him making appeasing that side of

1542
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,640
Speaker 1: the ball that's playing really well. But Robert Sala, you

1543
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:29,839
Speaker 1: gotta know that guy knows how to run a defense.

1544
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Incidentally, Jets owner Woody Johnson was addressing the media

1545
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 3: just a short time ago. Here's one of his opening

1546
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 3: quotes on the decision to fire head coach Robert Sala.

1547
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 3: He said, quote, this is one of the most talented

1548
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 3: teams ever assembled by the New York Jets. The change

1549
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 3: that I made, I believe will bring new energy and

1550
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 3: positivity that will lead to more wins starting now. No pressure, coach,

1551
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 3: Ulbrich go get.

1552
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 1: Them this as well. It's always a little prickly situation

1553
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 1: when the boss gets fired and you take his seat,

1554
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 1: particularly if you've been real close friends, which they have,

1555
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 1: and they this is a crew that has been together

1556
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: for three and a half years. And when you do that,

1557
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 1: I mean think about the hours these guys put in.

1558
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 3: And Elbrick was with him in San France. I believe

1559
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 3: Olbrich was the linebackers coach when Sala was the DC.

1560
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Olbrich goes the guy, come with me, I'll

1561
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 1: make you my DC. Awesome. Now you got an elite defense.

1562
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: And now he gets canned. Now you're in his seat.

1563
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 1: That's and here's the thing. It's not like Jeff Olbrich's

1564
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:43,679
Speaker 1: wishing bad things on Robert.

1565
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:44,639
Speaker 3: So it wasn't his call.

1566
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't his call. Uh, but it's you know, it's

1567
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 1: a it's a prickly situation, and uh yeah, it's it's

1568
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 1: never easy because the staff is one that Sala put together.

1569
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 1: These guys, you know, they grind together, I mean long

1570
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: hours and meetings and they're trying to formulate a plan,

1571
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 1: and they're trying to get their team to play just

1572
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 1: the way they want it. All the coaches are trying

1573
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 1: to coach their players to get get them to do

1574
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: just the right thing, so they work together. I mean,

1575
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: it's just a family atmosphere. I mean it's really close

1576
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 1: work and then one of you just gets canned. Man,

1577
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 1: it's rough. It is rough.

1578
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:30,719
Speaker 3: Dave on the tweets sheet says, it means Aaron Rodgers

1579
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 3: runs the show there after one and a half seasons

1580
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 3: in the building. It also means we better win or

1581
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 3: there could be some major pitchforks Monday morning.

1582
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, this is gonna be a tough game.

1583
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's just got to be. I think Brown

1584
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 1: and I have we asked this question.

1585
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 3: Tougher now?

1586
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, what does it Jets coaching change mean for the Bills.

1587
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 1: It means it's gonna be a tougher game. The Jets

1588
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 1: are gonna be They're all gonna be charged, it's gonna

1589
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 1: be it's gonna be an electric atmosphere on the road,

1590
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: third straight week in Jet MetLife Stadium against a defense

1591
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 1: that's already playing lights out, and they're gonna be like

1592
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 1: at a fever pitch. This is gonna be a really

1593
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 1: rough game for Buffalo, a really rough game, and you're

1594
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 1: gonna have to come in and execute to a fine

1595
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 1: point to win it. Yeah I don't. Yeah, yeah, the

1596
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 1: major pitchfork thing. Save it. Save it for some other time.

1597
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 3: This is not it, Jedi Slayer says. It means the

1598
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 3: Bills have zero excuses to not go in and step

1599
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:32,759
Speaker 3: on their throats and put a vice grip on the division.

1600
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 3: Will we is the question? And if we don't, our

1601
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 3: own staff might be facing a similar situation.

1602
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1603
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 3: I don't think that's.

1604
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 1: Not I just said that. I just said what I

1605
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: think about that. I'll say this now. If they go

1606
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 1: in and lay an egg, if they go in and

1607
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 1: it gets worse and worse and worse and worse, yeah,

1608
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: there'll be some soul searching inside the building. But they'll

1609
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 1: get a chance to dig themselves out of it. I'm positive.

1610
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, if it's the worst possible scenario and the

1611
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 1: Bills go in there and don't they get shut out

1612
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 1: fifty to nothing, yeah, there will be some serious soul

1613
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 1: searching in this building, no question. But you know, you

1614
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 1: got to think that they got a better chance than that.

1615
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Drew on the tweets sheet says this means the

1616
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 3: Jets will throw everything at us and we will struggle

1617
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 3: to game plan for them. If they get rolling, we

1618
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 3: will be in trouble. Meanwhile, Andrew says absolutely nothing. Just

1619
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 3: have to play our game. Besides, we know Rogers is

1620
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 3: calling the shots. He has been all season for them,

1621
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 3: so nothing will change. And then William says it made

1622
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 3: a hard game even harder as the Jets will be

1623
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 3: fired up and Josh and the Bills haven't played well

1624
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 3: in the Middle Lands. I had this game as a

1625
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 3: loss when looking at the schedule along with the Ravens game.

1626
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 3: But I had the Texans game as a w The

1627
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 3: team better get there you know what together. And then

1628
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 3: John says it won't do anything to the Jets offense,

1629
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 3: that's for sure. The defense under Salah was elite. Getting

1630
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 3: rid of him can only make it worse. Astrel says,

1631
01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 3: I think it gives the Jets a boost. I wish

1632
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 3: this happened after our game. Two teams desperate for a

1633
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 3: win is not what I was hoping for. We have

1634
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 3: to win this game when we play KC. It needs

1635
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 3: to be a game that puts us ahead of them

1636
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 3: if we win. People already handicap in the conference. Five

1637
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 3: games in here, there's a lot of football left.

1638
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 1: I don't yeah, but I I don't think when you

1639
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 1: get to the Kansas City game, I mean is next month, right,

1640
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:31,640
Speaker 1: it's next month. Kansas City's sitting there at five, and oh,

1641
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 1: something bad is going to have to happen for the

1642
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 1: Chiefs for that game to put us ahead in the chief.

1643
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 3: H We got to take a break here, but when

1644
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 3: we come back, some final thoughts on the tweet sheet

1645
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 3: and what do we have a moose story? We got

1646
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 3: to get to that when we come back here on

1647
01:27:51,080 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 3: one Bill's Live, stay with us Live. So you know,

1648
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 3: you come to work sometimes you might see a deer

1649
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 3: by the side of the road around here in western

1650
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 3: New York, maybe a couple of maybe a few even

1651
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 3: crossing the road, might see some roadkill on the shoulder,

1652
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 3: you know, a raccoon dead on his back and stiff

1653
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,600
Speaker 3: as a board, you know, something like that. It's a

1654
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 3: little different where your daughter lives.

1655
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a little video from my daughter who lives.

1656
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 1: If some of you know in Anchorage, Alaska, this is

1657
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:29,480
Speaker 1: a major thoroughfare and there's this moose.

1658
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 3: Just on the way to work. Got a giant bull

1659
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 3: moose taking his time.

1660
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 1: Notice how they don't get out of the way. They

1661
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 1: just like walk at their own pace. This moose has

1662
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 1: gotta be seven feet tall at the shoulder, and it's

1663
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 1: a it's a big thoroughfare with a you know, it's

1664
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 1: like nine lights there, it's two. It's like three lanes

1665
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 1: going one way, three lanes coming the other and the

1666
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 1: same cross. It's that big an intersection. This thing is

1667
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 1: just taking a time through this. There. You go, have

1668
01:28:58,040 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 1: a nice day at work on.

1669
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 3: And and and just so you know, the rule of

1670
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 3: thumb is you give the moose the right of way. Listen,

1671
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 3: the one thing you don't want to do is hit

1672
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 3: a moose with your car.

1673
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 1: So I've told this story. Maybe I have. My son

1674
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 1: in law is in a beer League softball big facility,

1675
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 1: eight or nine fields and stuff. We're there and this

1676
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 1: moose comes trotting through the parking lot, and I was like,

1677
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 1: how do I act around them? I don't know how

1678
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 1: do I act around them? He might's afraid or whatever.

1679
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 1: So I look, take your cue from the locals. Every

1680
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 1: single softball game, all six games, every single player froze

1681
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: and stared at that moose, and they didn't move until

1682
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 1: it was gone. Then it's like okay, game on. I

1683
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh. Even the locals are afraid

1684
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 1: of those.

1685
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 3: They don't want an angry moose.

1686
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:39,879
Speaker 1: No, angry mooses can't.

1687
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 3: Call the cops. They're not gonna help you. SPCA doesn't

1688
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 3: have a fast enough response time. Moose are big man,

1689
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 3: No me one hundred two thousand pound animals. That's it

1690
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 3: for us today. We'll catch you on tomorrow for a

1691
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 3: Wednesday edition. Bill's players back on the field.

1692
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 12: We'll have you updating

1693
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 11: Y