Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hi you guys,
Speaker 1: welcome to another riveting episode of nine oh to one.
Speaker 1: O MG, I'm Tori Spelling with the amazing Jenny Garth
Speaker 1: and Sisseny Hi ladies. Hi, I thought we were only
Speaker 1: using first names. Oh that's right, rewind Hi, I'm Tori.
Speaker 1: This is Jenny and of course Siseny. Hi. Everybody. Hi,
Speaker 1: how's this week going? It's going. Don't sound so excited, jeez,
Speaker 1: I know, don't you guys agree? Mama's like when you
Speaker 1: have kids, it's just there's no weekends. It's just there's
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just happens. There's holidays. We mark
Speaker 1: things by holidays, birthdays, things like that. Well, speaking of
Speaker 1: birth days, Stella had a birthday. Oh my goodness, daughter
Speaker 1: turned what thirteen? Fourteen thirteen? And this is yeah, this
Speaker 1: is what you warned me about. You said, just wait,
Speaker 1: just wait till they become teenagers. And I think you
Speaker 1: met girls because you've got girls, and yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: really know anything about boys. It's happening. It's happening. Oh,
Speaker 1: send her to me, Send her to me. Oh, she
Speaker 1: wouldn't like that, she because because from afar. She thinks
Speaker 1: you're just the best, and I'm not, like, Aunt Jenny's
Speaker 1: the best. But imagine a week in your house. I
Speaker 1: remember when we were shooting our movie, our movie, our
Speaker 1: show in Canada and one time you had me take
Speaker 1: Stella home early, and like we had dinner together and
Speaker 1: hung out and watched a show together. She she was
Speaker 1: she didn't really know what to do with me. She
Speaker 1: was like kind of scared and kind of defiant at
Speaker 1: the same time, kind of like I'll do whatever I want.
Speaker 1: You're not the boss of me. But she liked me too.
Speaker 1: She loves you. Do you remember when Liam and Stella
Speaker 1: were younger and you had them over for a sleepover? No,
Speaker 1: I don't remember that. What happened the house? Okay? What
Speaker 1: house you u? I don't know what house you were in?
Speaker 1: How old house from Uh? It was when we were
Speaker 1: doing Mystery Girls and Liam and Stella wanted to sleep
Speaker 1: over with Fiona. They were young. It was like what
Speaker 1: six years ago, um, and you had them all over
Speaker 1: and you gave them their first turkey dog because we're
Speaker 1: meat eaters and you gave him then and they don't
Speaker 1: need healthy so they probably were like, what are you guy,
Speaker 1: and you're like a turkey. Dogs they had and somehow
Speaker 1: Liam got his foot closed in the Remember in the
Speaker 1: trams in the pool couch was the trampline, same spring.
Speaker 1: Why didn't take in the in the trampoline springs? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: that's it. That was so I did good job. I
Speaker 1: did it. I was great with them. They had the
Speaker 1: best time, and then you were like you had the
Speaker 1: worst sleep. You got to set really tired because you
Speaker 1: were like, I knew like all night, I was just like,
Speaker 1: I'm so I feel responsible for her kids, and I
Speaker 1: just like all night I kept like waking up like
Speaker 1: are they okay? And you kept checking on him. That's
Speaker 1: why I love you. Yeah, we should have another sleepover.
Speaker 1: Would be a little different now than they're teenagers, though,
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. They would just wanna game and play
Speaker 1: on their phones and was it happy right? Net you
Speaker 1: have a party? Would you guys? Do nothing yet? Because
Speaker 1: I was working so I wasn't with her during the day.
Speaker 1: We went for sushi at night. But she wants she's
Speaker 1: up sessed, Okay, you guys, So she's obsessed with Harry
Speaker 1: Potter and um, do you know who Tom Felton is?
Speaker 1: Oh really, he's already have this conversation. He's malfolly. We
Speaker 1: didn't have this. Oh my god, we totally talked about
Speaker 1: on the podcast of the podcast. Yeah, I remember, and
Speaker 1: I remember not really knowing right now that I remember
Speaker 1: something and you don't. Oh my god, you guys. Thirty
Speaker 1: years later, she wins. She wins the prize of finally
Speaker 1: remembering something first before me. Character. Yeah, so anyway, wait,
Speaker 1: we have this conversation. What did I say, Because she's
Speaker 1: obsessed with us, with him, and that you were going
Speaker 1: to get her cameo. My life, Sorry, my life. I
Speaker 1: can't believe. Yeah, but I can't because it's six hundred
Speaker 1: dollars Tom Felton's charging for for a second Cameo And
Speaker 1: I understand he's a big, big star. But that's good.
Speaker 1: I go on Instagram and try d ming him and
Speaker 1: see if you can work out a deal. You guys,
Speaker 1: I'm pathetic. I contacted Cameo and they were like, well
Speaker 1: paying his because he's the European team, well paying them
Speaker 1: the international team. No response to the ping, and then
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's like the new version of slide
Speaker 1: into my DM, like now just it's like ping mead
Speaker 1: of hit me. It's paying me now, it's maybe just
Speaker 1: on the app baby one more time? So I can't
Speaker 1: keep up from the cameo. You only paying someone on
Speaker 1: a cameo? Oh no, I think it's other things, right, Sis,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know. You can don't ping on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Not a lady lady on the golf course say I'll
Speaker 1: ping you. And I was like, oh with the No,
Speaker 1: it's it's different platforms. I can't keep up. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so I d m him, I painted him. I've done
Speaker 1: everything except like flash my boobies and pray that he'll
Speaker 1: like that. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what
Speaker 1: to do. I'm very I'm very sad about it. Just
Speaker 1: get her some get her. Oh my daughter was in
Speaker 1: Harry Potter for a second, like a year ago and
Speaker 1: into him really and she has a Oh we should
Speaker 1: do this. One of her friends had a blanket made
Speaker 1: for her with his face on it. Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a good one. And you know where the blankets are
Speaker 1: made with faces because you've done it. Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask you after Yeah, but we're going to Universal Studios
Speaker 1: to Harry Potter World next week. Anyway, Tom fellon, just
Speaker 1: got way too much airtime. Let's move on. She tested
Speaker 1: him so mad stick center dollars. Well that is a lot. Well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the episode, shall we Shall we just
Speaker 1: get right into it for a minute, because I do
Speaker 1: it's exciting things in store a little bit later. But
Speaker 1: we are moving on to episode seven of season two,
Speaker 1: Camping Trip, air date August nine. Synopsis. The gang decides
Speaker 1: to take an end of the summer trip to Yosemite,
Speaker 1: but an unexpected downpour of rain strands them next to
Speaker 1: a couple of Newlywoods who seemed to be going through
Speaker 1: a storm themselves. Directed by Jeffrey Melman, written by the
Speaker 1: lovely Karen Rosen and Darren Starr, starring us the whole cast.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine if we read all the names of
Speaker 1: all the actors in the show, we would really as
Speaker 1: Brandon Walsh, let's read the list of all of our
Speaker 1: fellow castmates who have not come on our podcast, starting
Speaker 1: with Jason Priestley, followed by Shannon Doherty, Iron's earring, Luke Perry, obviously,
Speaker 1: Brian Austin Green, Carol Potter. Oh no, she was right,
Speaker 1: we haven't had that cose either. We have to have
Speaker 1: your crush, your man crush. I can't wait to see him.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we gotta do that sooner than later.
Speaker 1: Just as a gift to you and Gab. Obviously we
Speaker 1: skipped Gab Gab because she's been on and I remember
Speaker 1: Gab who said last week the slap was real. We
Speaker 1: buried that headline from episode six. How did this come about? You?
Speaker 1: Texted her? She confirmed what happened. As she confirmed, she
Speaker 1: said it was real and she learned a lot on
Speaker 1: that show because what she thought, she said, she went
Speaker 1: into it thinking like, you know, it's not real, or
Speaker 1: you disc us it, but there was no discussion, and
Speaker 1: then it happened and it was very real and very
Speaker 1: hard and she learned a lot on that show. And
Speaker 1: then I said, oh, can you tell more? And she said,
Speaker 1: not on the podcast, but I'll tell you in Jen
Speaker 1: in real life. I cannot believe it wasn't discussed and
Speaker 1: it was shocking. Yeah. Oh, and a fan reminded us
Speaker 1: that you had a slap on the show, Vanessa, Marcel
Speaker 1: slapped you in a later episode. Do you remember. We
Speaker 1: haven't gotten to that episode. I haven't watched it. I
Speaker 1: have no I know, it's just we're talking about slaps. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you'd think I remember something like that. Maybe when you
Speaker 1: see it it will jog your memory. And I wonder
Speaker 1: if you guys discussed it. I hope so, I hope
Speaker 1: it comes back to me, the slap. This episode starts
Speaker 1: out with I love the whole casual friendship vibe that
Speaker 1: is like brewing at the Walsh at Castle Walsh before
Speaker 1: we all depart on our Yosemite adventure. Everybody seems so
Speaker 1: happy and excited and and it's so cute how you're
Speaker 1: overpacked and Steve's busting you. He's like he's like travel
Speaker 1: Nazi with a poofy hair do, Like he's really his
Speaker 1: hair was higher than I've ever seen it in this
Speaker 1: episode and shocking that I was overpacked because I don't
Speaker 1: do that in real life, right, BFF doing funny, not
Speaker 1: at all. I don't know how you actually get your
Speaker 1: suitcases zipped closed. I don't know how that ever happens.
Speaker 1: It takes more work to to zip my suitcases than
Speaker 1: it does for me to get into my three pairs
Speaker 1: of spinks daily, Like literally, it's so I'm sweating afterwards,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on it. I have my kids sit on it.
Speaker 1: It's heart and he yanks out the shoulder pads of
Speaker 1: all things. Those are you like, you need shoulder pads
Speaker 1: at Yosemite? And I'm like, shoulder pad before b b J, Yes,
Speaker 1: b b J O instead of p b J B
Speaker 1: b J. You're not a sandwich people. No. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: they they hit the road and they sing their songs
Speaker 1: and it's so cute and I'm really glad that Dylan
Speaker 1: goes along with them on the me too. Then they
Speaker 1: get to the cabin. The cabin, so you know, they
Speaker 1: were like, we don't have it in the budget to
Speaker 1: film it Yosemite, so we're gonna stick them in a
Speaker 1: cabin and we're gonna make it work. There's a reason
Speaker 1: there's a rain storm. And then we're going to film
Speaker 1: it on a set. Okay, so they built do you
Speaker 1: remember did they build those cabin sets on our stages?
Speaker 1: They did. They did, And for some reason, I just
Speaker 1: remember I can picture right now. It was really hot
Speaker 1: in that cabin and we were supposed to be really cold.
Speaker 1: It was so hot and we were all in there
Speaker 1: for we filmed those scenes like an entire day. That
Speaker 1: was maybe the least fun ever. Was that really it
Speaker 1: looked fun. I know, I wanted to be well. They
Speaker 1: were all kind of turning on each other at one point.
Speaker 1: It was like or the flies for a minute, like,
Speaker 1: m hmm, it happens after a long drive. Yeah, cranky.
Speaker 1: They were a little soggy. They didn't have any good snacks. No,
Speaker 1: alcohol doesn't sound fun. Um And he was super afraid
Speaker 1: of the spider and she was really cute about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was interesting that Brenda just went into action. None
Speaker 1: of the boys offered to help. It was Brenda who
Speaker 1: went to kill the spider. You know, she she was
Speaker 1: giving off some some mom vibes like Red Potter ribes
Speaker 1: take care of things this episode, she was mom, and
Speaker 1: you're right, but you know what what I saw the
Speaker 1: boom three times and I felt like I was I
Speaker 1: was catching a prize instantly. Everybody always right in and
Speaker 1: tell me because it's my obsession. Now three times obsession,
Speaker 1: I never I don't care. Machine. Yes, it was in
Speaker 1: the vending machine. And then it was in one of
Speaker 1: the cabin scenes with the couple just dipping right in there.
Speaker 1: They were standing in front of the fireplace, Brenda and Dylan,
Speaker 1: I think, and the and the couple was they were
Speaker 1: talking to the couple. Okay, so if you guys see this,
Speaker 1: you can't tell me in editing when they watched this
Speaker 1: so many times that they don't see it. Is it
Speaker 1: like we can't go back and reshoot that would cost
Speaker 1: too much? Or or what what do you think it is?
Speaker 1: I must see it? Mean I don't you know, because
Speaker 1: when you're moving so fast on a show, you're you're
Speaker 1: only printing sometimes one take, sometimes two takes, right, and
Speaker 1: maybe they don't have another shot that it's not in
Speaker 1: or that now you can now you have like programs
Speaker 1: on your computers that you could zoom the image in
Speaker 1: and essentially crop it out of the scene if you
Speaker 1: needed to. But did you have that type of stuff
Speaker 1: back in the nineties. That's expensive though, right shot by
Speaker 1: shot to do that. And and for the record, if
Speaker 1: you're listening, if you're listening, if you're happy to be
Speaker 1: listening to this, print, tell them Print means that you
Speaker 1: got the take, you're happy with the take, you're moving on.
Speaker 1: Can you stop waving your I knew you're about to
Speaker 1: say that, you know what, you're pointing your nails at us.
Speaker 1: They're good, right, they're very I don't but not too fancy,
Speaker 1: but super and they look dangerous. Yeah any sorry, try
Speaker 1: to get contacts on with these, just try thinking other things.
Speaker 1: That's all right, Um, but the husband and wife duo,
Speaker 1: we're super cute the newlyweds. But I thought it was
Speaker 1: a little creepy when when um Brandon and Andrea were
Speaker 1: sitting in there talking to them, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: he gets on top of her on the couch and
Speaker 1: like starts basically, yeah, why why was that in there
Speaker 1: just to like throw some Laundrea Brandon like could have
Speaker 1: been us. I didn't get that vibe at all. I
Speaker 1: thought Andrea was cute, though she looked like she needed
Speaker 1: like some popcorn. She wanted to watch the show. They
Speaker 1: came in to look for extra firewood, and they they're
Speaker 1: on their honeymoon. They go, we're about to make a toast.
Speaker 1: Why don't you join us? YEA awkward because they're nice.
Speaker 1: That's that's what nice people do. They're all inclusive. Would
Speaker 1: you do that? Yeah, because I would feel the pressure too,
Speaker 1: But I'd be like, here's your wood by yeah, Harne.
Speaker 1: Moon we didn't talk to another person for one week,
Speaker 1: like we literally just people the restaurant. Yeah, but if
Speaker 1: I mean, they're all kind of they're on my first honeymoon.
Speaker 1: I just remember on my first honeymoon, I did make
Speaker 1: a friend in the pool, and and they're still they're
Speaker 1: still a friend. Really, I'm not still married to that man.
Speaker 1: I'm still with a friend. What Wait, where'd you go
Speaker 1: for your first honeymoon? I don't remember Hawaii, Maui, somewhere.
Speaker 1: I don't remember which island, but I remember meeting a
Speaker 1: guy in the pool. Well, you've been a guy to
Speaker 1: do I know this friend? I don't know. He lives
Speaker 1: in slow in sam Luisibispo. His name's Chris of mckiern
Speaker 1: in law. Maybe anybody needs a lawyer? We was was
Speaker 1: Dan pissed that you were talking to a guy? What? No,
Speaker 1: he was like, hey, what's up here? What are you talking? Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is yeah, right up your alley. Then first
Speaker 1: I thought he was hitting on me, but then it
Speaker 1: was like he just want to be friends with all
Speaker 1: of us, like we just we just and it It It
Speaker 1: actually improved our honeymoon. We had a better time because
Speaker 1: we made friends. You should have known that was the problem, flag,
Speaker 1: But you knew that before you married him. Oh my goodness. Well,
Speaker 1: we have a special guest coming on pretty soon. Can
Speaker 1: I just tell you what one more part of the
Speaker 1: episode that I'm trying. Yes, Okay, So I'm watching it
Speaker 1: and my husband comes on from work last night at eleven,
Speaker 1: and it's the scene with um when Brandon and Dylan
Speaker 1: decided to go on a hike. Oh yeah, and he
Speaker 1: was like, wait, what's going on? Is this the prequel
Speaker 1: to Broke Back Mountain? I don't understand what's happening, like
Speaker 1: he was. So he was like, what is about to happen?
Speaker 1: He didn't understand it all. And I said, no, they're
Speaker 1: just they're going on a friend hike up to the
Speaker 1: top of the mountain. But anyway, I I just needed
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about the stunt doubles and
Speaker 1: the and the hanging off the cliff part. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was hanging for a long time, and like he was
Speaker 1: really strong, like with that one hand he pulled himself
Speaker 1: right up. It was still suspenseful for me as a fan.
Speaker 1: Like watching it again, I'm just like I remember as
Speaker 1: a teen watching I watched this episode and watching it,
Speaker 1: I was just like I was so excited like that
Speaker 1: that friendship. I was just like, yes, really, yeah, Well
Speaker 1: they were so just like a big deal. They're just
Speaker 1: so handsome and they look so perfect in every shot
Speaker 1: that I think he got a little weird about that.
Speaker 1: He thought this is getting weird. But I this, the
Speaker 1: stunt doubles made me laugh so hard that there their
Speaker 1: little wigs, and I did not notice the stunt double.
Speaker 1: You didn't notice this, So I was wondering, like, if
Speaker 1: you don't know that there's a stunt double, then you
Speaker 1: just don't notice. No, I didn't Well, I didn't know
Speaker 1: and I didn't notice. It didn't even cross my mind.
Speaker 1: Why would they new stunt double? It was just I
Speaker 1: imagine it wasn't real, like real real Cliff. There was
Speaker 1: a couple of shots really definitely stunt doubles, like looking
Speaker 1: Dad looking up at the mountain and seeing him hanging there.
Speaker 1: That was stunt double. Really yeah, but I really thought
Speaker 1: it was crazy when when Dylan was trying to help him,
Speaker 1: but he kept knocking off those big rocks right onto
Speaker 1: his head. That's not helpful. Oh my gosh. This was
Speaker 1: the first time we ever did and I'm not sure
Speaker 1: how we did it because we didn't really have cell
Speaker 1: phones back then with cameras. This is the first time
Speaker 1: that uh it was always I in the organized It
Speaker 1: showed us how to do this shot where we put
Speaker 1: a camera on the bottom and we all stand and
Speaker 1: look down at it in a group. Do you remember
Speaker 1: those shots we used to do pictures. I didn't know
Speaker 1: that we would never do that now with that angle.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, too old. Maybe overhead we can all look
Speaker 1: up at it. That would be better now, Yeah, you're right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Ian used to be like guys, guys watched this and
Speaker 1: put on self It was like a camera on self
Speaker 1: timer and then yeah, we would all like link arms
Speaker 1: in the circle and all look down and have a
Speaker 1: shot in this the first time on the camping trip
Speaker 1: that we actually didn't remind you of that when we're
Speaker 1: in the in the huddle at the end, I did
Speaker 1: that was good good memories. Uh yeah, it's being a
Speaker 1: good time. So let's let's let the good times role
Speaker 1: syste Yeah, we need to take a break. But when
Speaker 1: we come back, we have Mel Silver Matthew Lawrence who
Speaker 1: plays Mel David's father, So we actually reached out to
Speaker 1: him and we emailed him to come on. Actually we'll
Speaker 1: redo the email when we come back because it's pretty
Speaker 1: like pretty direct. Um, we'll come back with Matthew Lawrence.
Speaker 1: M okay, so this Nick, tell us about the email
Speaker 1: that you got from. So we emailed Matthew Lawrence to
Speaker 1: come onto the podcast and this was his response. Hi,
Speaker 1: dot dot dot, I would love to dot dot dot.
Speaker 1: I'll change a couple of things. Dot dot dot anything
Speaker 1: to see those two dot dot dot. Thank and then
Speaker 1: all new lines. By the way, you know what, dot
Speaker 1: dot I'm already. We love this man so much. You
Speaker 1: have no idea. All ten years he was the highlights,
Speaker 1: Like when he would be on set, we would be
Speaker 1: so happy. Well, let's bring him in. He's in the radio.
Speaker 1: Let's not keep him waiting. Matthew, look at you, Look
Speaker 1: at me. Don't look at me, look at you. Two
Speaker 1: we want to look at you. No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Where are you, Matthew? What are you doing? I am
Speaker 1: in Lexington, Kentucky. Um, and I am for twelve years
Speaker 1: now I am on ESPN Radio here in Lexington. Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm a big radio guy now because I have I
Speaker 1: have a face for radio. So you know that's what
Speaker 1: it is, a great voice. Oh, my husband's going to
Speaker 1: be so excited. Then, I'm sure he listens to ESPN
Speaker 1: Radio constantly. Yeah he does, but not mine your big
Speaker 1: sports guy my entire life, I didn't know that. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I played for sports, had basketball scholarship offers, all that stuff,
Speaker 1: and I've been very involved in sports my whole life. Wow,
Speaker 1: we probably never talked about that. That wasn't That wasn't
Speaker 1: our common like thread. No, nobody, nobody ever asked me
Speaker 1: the entire time I was on the show about me.
Speaker 1: All you guys cared about was you. That's all you
Speaker 1: cared about. Nobody, what do you? What do you like?
Speaker 1: We thought you liked what we liked. What do you
Speaker 1: mean us in? Though I did well Man before we were,
Speaker 1: before you were mel Silver, you were on You've done
Speaker 1: a lot on a lot of other shows SNL do
Speaker 1: it lots of things over the course of your career,
Speaker 1: And we were just talking off air about that. You
Speaker 1: have a twin brother, yes, who was also an actor. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He made for a really interesting part of our lives. Um,
Speaker 1: not only a twin but identical twin. So the first
Speaker 1: few years when we got out of college, I immediately
Speaker 1: went to acting school and he didn't. He there was
Speaker 1: nothing about him being an actor, And for five years
Speaker 1: or so he was the associate producer on Saturday Night Live,
Speaker 1: the original Saturday Night Live. He did all kinds of
Speaker 1: stuff and then when their cast left, they all left.
Speaker 1: He went to l A and out of nowhere. I
Speaker 1: got a phone call one day and said I'm coming
Speaker 1: to New York. I need to talk to you. And
Speaker 1: I said okay. And he came and sat down with
Speaker 1: me and said, I'm going to be an actor. And
Speaker 1: I went, excuse me what? And he um, He said
Speaker 1: it was something he had always wanted to do, but
Speaker 1: because I was doing it, he didn't and it was
Speaker 1: time to live his own life and all that crap
Speaker 1: that brothers say to you. You know, I didn't pay
Speaker 1: attention anyway. Um, but we went through a period, uh
Speaker 1: of almost five years where we didn't talk to each
Speaker 1: other pretty much. Well, I think it brought up a
Speaker 1: lot of things about while we were growing up, also
Speaker 1: jealous ease and all kinds. But I mean, think about it.
Speaker 1: When you're in a business based on how you look,
Speaker 1: and you have somebody that looks exactly like you competing
Speaker 1: for jobs, it doesn't make for a really happy time,
Speaker 1: you know, Like you would be up for the same parts,
Speaker 1: like would you bump into him at And it only happened.
Speaker 1: It only happened a few times. And I think it's
Speaker 1: because our agents tried to keep away we were up
Speaker 1: for the same parts, we didn't. They often scheduled us
Speaker 1: at different times. Um. But he was on a very
Speaker 1: successful show called Not Necessarily the News on HBO for
Speaker 1: I think six years and we both auditioned the same
Speaker 1: day at the same time for that. Wait, so did
Speaker 1: he audition for for Mel the part of Mel? No? No,
Speaker 1: no no. By that time, I was a much bigger
Speaker 1: star than he was. And but you know, ever, wait,
Speaker 1: is he gonna see this? Um? Uh no, he didn't.
Speaker 1: And do you want me to tell you about Mel? Now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Tell us about Wait? Wait, I I have one question.
Speaker 1: Did he get stopped? He must have once you became
Speaker 1: famous as Melf Mel Silver. I know you already were,
Speaker 1: but as Mel, Like, did he get stopped? And people
Speaker 1: are like, oh my god, is David Silver's dad? Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's it's really interesting. It's it's great
Speaker 1: that you asked that, Tori, because the worst part of
Speaker 1: it all was when he was on Not Necessarily the news.
Speaker 1: I still was. I wasn't working. I didn't have a
Speaker 1: regular job like he did, and people knew him, and
Speaker 1: people would come up to me all the time and say,
Speaker 1: I love not necessarily the news, and I would go,
Speaker 1: that's not me, it's my brother. And when I was
Speaker 1: on say Duet for three years on Fox, people would
Speaker 1: come up to him and go, Duets my favorite show.
Speaker 1: And the first time it would happen ten times in
Speaker 1: a night if you were out, and the first time
Speaker 1: you just say, that's not me, it's my brother. And
Speaker 1: by the tenth time you're yelling at the purse. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're you get it, You're angry. But and that happened
Speaker 1: a lot for a long time, and it was it
Speaker 1: was really hard. It was really hard for both of us.
Speaker 1: And just to wrap this us up, you'll love this.
Speaker 1: At the time he was living, there was a very
Speaker 1: famous director named Brian Gibson who directed Poltergeist and a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of things, and Brian lived in a mansion
Speaker 1: up in the hills, and Mitchell lived in Brian's house.
Speaker 1: He had his own wing of this castle he lived
Speaker 1: in and um Mitchell called me one day and he
Speaker 1: said we were at that point we were kind of
Speaker 1: cordial to each other, but still not friendlier. And and
Speaker 1: he called me and said, I have to come over.
Speaker 1: I need to talk to you. And he came over
Speaker 1: to my house. And it turns out that Brian was
Speaker 1: a very spiritual guy. He was into He was a Buddhist,
Speaker 1: he was into chanting and psychics and all kinds of uh.
Speaker 1: He had a best friend in Florida that was a psychic,
Speaker 1: this woman and he Mitchell, my brother, went out to
Speaker 1: dinner with Brian and this woman, and she didn't know
Speaker 1: anything about Mitchell. Brian hadn't told her anything. She said
Speaker 1: to Mitchell after about two minutes, You're a twin, aren't you.
Speaker 1: And Mitchell said, yeah, I am. And she said to him,
Speaker 1: don't you know you will never get anywhere in life
Speaker 1: by wishing bad things on your brother. And he said
Speaker 1: that to me, And we stood for hours in my
Speaker 1: kitchen crying and laughing and talking. And from that day
Speaker 1: on we decided we were going to work together, we
Speaker 1: were going to be and he's been my absolute best
Speaker 1: friend in the world. This is a long time ago, um,
Speaker 1: and it's been great up doing all kinds of things
Speaker 1: together and it's been amazing. Oh that's beautiful, but you
Speaker 1: still didn't answer. Did he get recognized as Mels Silver?
Speaker 1: Yes he did, Yes, I'm sorry, Yes, yeah he did,
Speaker 1: and he still does. Actually, that's funny. And he lives
Speaker 1: in Conway, South Carolina, near Myrtle Beach and it still
Speaker 1: happens to him. And I still every once in a
Speaker 1: while and get somebody that comes up to me in
Speaker 1: the grocery store and go, are you the guy that
Speaker 1: was not necessarily didn't news. I would just say oh,
Speaker 1: thank you, yeah, and just call it a day. You know.
Speaker 1: That's I never thought of that tour. That's that's what
Speaker 1: I should have done. Yes, that's what I should. So
Speaker 1: I was telling them before the show, when we were
Speaker 1: super excited that you were coming on. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what you guys, he was on. He was
Speaker 1: in a movie that is so iconic and I couldn't
Speaker 1: remember what it was. And Jem was like with Michael Parrey, Parrey,
Speaker 1: I always say his name, run Michael h Streets of
Speaker 1: Fire and I was like, no, no, no, it's something else.
Speaker 1: It was seen almost fire, Yes, And I never got
Speaker 1: the chance to talk to you about it because it
Speaker 1: wasn't until later when I watched it again with my kids,
Speaker 1: I was like, this is a movie from my generation.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god, Matthew, that's it.
Speaker 1: And I couldn't remember at the time. Yeah, well, Michael Parade.
Speaker 1: The movie I was in with Michael was Eddie and
Speaker 1: the Cruisers, which is also it's like the biggest cult
Speaker 1: movie ever. But saying almost Fire was a really amazing
Speaker 1: experience because now again it's the same thing with me
Speaker 1: and this just hit me. You guys to the success
Speaker 1: of nine O two one oh and all of you
Speaker 1: and the success of the Brat Pack with all of
Speaker 1: them from saying almost Fire has to be because of me.
Speaker 1: You just he's the rink. Just hit me. I'm like
Speaker 1: the older actor guy who I don't know maybe mentored
Speaker 1: all of you. I don't know what degrees from Matthew Lawrence.
Speaker 1: But working on that film was incredible and um, I
Speaker 1: played to me Moore's gay next door neighbor and worked
Speaker 1: with Joel Schumacher, who was one of the iconic directors
Speaker 1: of all times. Um just an incredible person and to
Speaker 1: this day, Uh, Andrew McCarthy is one of my best friends.
Speaker 1: I just did a big, huge He came out with
Speaker 1: a book that he wrote called Bratt that is a
Speaker 1: huge deal right now. Amazing incredible book about his life.
Speaker 1: And he's a great writer. And I just did a
Speaker 1: virtual book sale thing with him. We met on st
Speaker 1: almost fire and to this day we're still He's one
Speaker 1: of my absolute best friends. And I have, you know,
Speaker 1: just talking about this stuff. I have been so blessed
Speaker 1: in my life with the people that I have met,
Speaker 1: Like I actually I can't believe I'm sitting talking to
Speaker 1: the two of you, because you two are two of
Speaker 1: my have always been two of my favorite people in
Speaker 1: the world. And um, I'm a sap. I'm gonna'll tear
Speaker 1: up with much food commercials and I tear up, um.
Speaker 1: But like looking at your face, Jen and your face story,
Speaker 1: it does something to me that I'm just incredibly grateful,
Speaker 1: incredibly grateful. Oh, we feel the same way about you
Speaker 1: to our I don't know if you remember this, but
Speaker 1: this is an example of if I can tell this
Speaker 1: short story real quickly. When I was doing the show,
Speaker 1: probably the third or fourth year, I was sharing a
Speaker 1: house with some friends of mine on Mulholland Drive up
Speaker 1: in the hills and for the summer they swift swapped
Speaker 1: houses with a family from Edinburgh, scott and this family
Speaker 1: came over and they had a sixteen year old daughter.
Speaker 1: And I went out in the driveway when they pulled
Speaker 1: up to meet them, and this sixteen year old girl
Speaker 1: couldn't breathe when she saw that I was living at
Speaker 1: this house because nine o two one oh was you
Speaker 1: know what? It was all over the world. And about
Speaker 1: a week later I said to her, tomorrow morning, meet
Speaker 1: me at my car eight o'clock. You're coming to the
Speaker 1: set with me. I'm gonna take you to work. And
Speaker 1: I brought her in and we went into the makeup trailer.
Speaker 1: She couldn't she was having panic attack. She was so
Speaker 1: she couldn't believe she was there. I mean, think about
Speaker 1: a sixteen year old from Edinburgh. And we went into
Speaker 1: the makeup trailer and you were in there, and I
Speaker 1: introduced her and I told you, and I think Brian
Speaker 1: might have been in there, that she was from Edinburgh, Scotland,
Speaker 1: and she was visiting the house and you said you
Speaker 1: were finished with makeup. You said, okay, we'll see you later,
Speaker 1: and you took her by the hand and disappeared with
Speaker 1: her and took her to all the sets and took
Speaker 1: had people take pictures with her in the peach pit
Speaker 1: and in different places. It was one of the most
Speaker 1: amazing days of her life. I mean, I haven't seen
Speaker 1: her since that summer, but I know she will never
Speaker 1: forget that, and I never forgot that about you. Um anyway,
Speaker 1: all right, she's a good egg, that Tori. Well, we
Speaker 1: wanted to just ask you, you know, like questions about
Speaker 1: Mel and your time on the show. And yeah, obviously
Speaker 1: we all formed really strong bond with you. I think Tori, myself,
Speaker 1: Brian and of course Anna who played Jackie worked with
Speaker 1: you the most. Um, But we just wanted to ask you, like,
Speaker 1: what did you did you how did you come about
Speaker 1: getting the role of Mel, and how did you like
Speaker 1: the character? You know. The funny part is at that time,
Speaker 1: this is how the actual call went. And I just
Speaker 1: as I just saw both of you with Larry and
Speaker 1: Chuck and Peter on their wonderful thing that they're doing. Um,
Speaker 1: I think Chuck corrected me. I got a call from
Speaker 1: my agent and he said, they want to talk to
Speaker 1: you about uh playing a father on nine or two
Speaker 1: one off And at that time this was during the
Speaker 1: first I think at the beginning of the second year maybe,
Speaker 1: And at that time the show was not very popular.
Speaker 1: As you remember, there were a lot of people didn't
Speaker 1: have Fox in their houses. And I had never really
Speaker 1: seen the show. And I said to my agent, I
Speaker 1: don't think I want to do that. It's a show
Speaker 1: about some high school kids or something. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't think I want to. And he said, you've never
Speaker 1: played a father before. It would be really good for you.
Speaker 1: Just go talk to them. And I went in and
Speaker 1: I sat down and I met with them, and I
Speaker 1: didn't even know whose father I was going to play.
Speaker 1: And when they asked, they said, Brian Austin Green. I
Speaker 1: think Brian was maybe eighteen at the time, or nine,
Speaker 1: maybe eighteen maybe four four years or five years before that,
Speaker 1: I had done. Do you remember a show called Circus
Speaker 1: of the Stars I had done. She was on it.
Speaker 1: I had done that show the year that Brian was on.
Speaker 1: What was your act? I walked the high wire? Did
Speaker 1: you wear tights? Of course? Uh? And can we see
Speaker 1: a picture? Not I'll send you pictures. Not only tights,
Speaker 1: but a big frilly shirt that was opened down to here.
Speaker 1: And I was I was very funny. Actually, okay, anyway,
Speaker 1: I got very friendly with Brian. He was a little
Speaker 1: kid who was like thirteen or something. He was on
Speaker 1: not landing, I believe, and with his mom, and we
Speaker 1: were hearsed for weeks for that thing. Anyway, when they
Speaker 1: told me it was to play Brian's father, I said absolutely.
Speaker 1: I thought it would be one a couple of episodes
Speaker 1: or one episode. What I found out from Chuck or
Speaker 1: Larry was it was kind of an audition that first
Speaker 1: episode to see how Anna and I got along. I mean,
Speaker 1: the way your character was introduced was so great. We
Speaker 1: just watched that episode recently and were sitting behind her
Speaker 1: and she I love this so much. And You're like,
Speaker 1: it sounds like you need a dentist or something, and
Speaker 1: there you were, Oh my lord, Mr cheeseball. I was.
Speaker 1: But that started. You know that that one or two
Speaker 1: shows turned into nine years years. Um. I still can't
Speaker 1: believe it. And like I say, all the it's part
Speaker 1: of the of some of the greatest memories I have
Speaker 1: of my life. And I got a lot of great ones.
Speaker 1: I've done a lot of really razing things. But as
Speaker 1: I said that, I'm sitting here talking to you two
Speaker 1: is it's amazing to me. Amazing and that show. I mean,
Speaker 1: as you know, maybe four years in I'm a big
Speaker 1: history buff. I got a chance to work in Germany
Speaker 1: and I went over to what was used to be
Speaker 1: East Berlin and there was it's called the Brandenburg Gate.
Speaker 1: Napoleon's armies marched underneath this thing. I couldn't wait to
Speaker 1: see it, and I went took a cab, went by
Speaker 1: myself and I'm standing there looking at this massive thing.
Speaker 1: And a bus of tourists pulls up, Swedish tourists in Berlin, Germany,
Speaker 1: about thirty of them, and they get off this bus
Speaker 1: and they start walking towards this thing, and one of
Speaker 1: them turns and sees me and goes Beverly Hills and
Speaker 1: the whole book comes running over. They could have cared
Speaker 1: less where they were, sweetest tourist, Blynn. That's you know.
Speaker 1: You stand there and you guys know this better than anybody,
Speaker 1: but you stand there and you just go the power
Speaker 1: of TV and the reach of all this stuff is.
Speaker 1: And you know from how people talk about the influence
Speaker 1: you guys had on their lives growing up. Um, it's
Speaker 1: pretty amazing. It's really really amazing. It's something, isn't it. Yep,
Speaker 1: something to be proud of. You should you should be
Speaker 1: so proud because your character was so memorable and we
Speaker 1: you made such a lasting impression on each of us
Speaker 1: as just people on the show. We all everyone loves you. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: do you know? I get? I still get how could
Speaker 1: you do that? Would you do? Oh? I got all
Speaker 1: you drunk? Don't you? I mean on the show. It
Speaker 1: wasn't your fault. It was like half a glass, like
Speaker 1: it was a toast. What Donna Martin? Thank you? And
Speaker 1: what I say to these idiots that say that to
Speaker 1: me is, first of all, I'm an actor. They give
Speaker 1: you a script and you do what they tell you.
Speaker 1: That's first number two. I didn't get them drunk. We
Speaker 1: made a toast. I left, Steve came running back in
Speaker 1: and grabbed the champagne and disappeared. It wasn't even real champagne.
Speaker 1: It's a thirty years later, however long it is, I
Speaker 1: still have to explain to people like it wasn't well,
Speaker 1: you could flip it. You could say if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for me, there would be no Donna Martin. Graduate It's like, hello,
Speaker 1: there you go I think that I still get yelled
Speaker 1: at too, because you know, I had an affair with
Speaker 1: somebody when I had a three month old daughter or
Speaker 1: whatever that. You know, Mike, excuse me, Hello, I'm an actor,
Speaker 1: wasn't me? Okay? If you weren't an actor, what what
Speaker 1: would you do? What? What? What would you have been
Speaker 1: if you were an actor? What have you been in sports? What?
Speaker 1: A good question probably would have been something to do
Speaker 1: with sports. Absolutely. I mean sports has been the biggest
Speaker 1: the way I got here. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: you know who this is, but when I left l
Speaker 1: a UM I just couldn't take living in l a anymore.
Speaker 1: And uh I played in all these celebrity golf tournaments
Speaker 1: over the years. And in the early nineties I met
Speaker 1: coach Ka, who was the basketball coach at Duke and
Speaker 1: he's a very big deal and he was then too,
Speaker 1: and I was having dinner with he and his wife
Speaker 1: in at a golf tournament and I told him I
Speaker 1: wanted to leave l A. I was done, and he said, well,
Speaker 1: why don't you come work with me? And I said,
Speaker 1: what he said, just come to Durham, North Carolina. I
Speaker 1: have an idea. So I sold all my stuff, drove
Speaker 1: to Durham with my mom. She flew out to l
Speaker 1: A and he told me he wanted me to do
Speaker 1: radio for the Duke basketball team. So for ten years
Speaker 1: that's what I did. I sat right behind coach k
Speaker 1: and for ten years did radio for the Duke basketball team.
Speaker 1: That sounds like so much fun. It was incredible, incredible.
Speaker 1: And then I got married. Uh, we had a young
Speaker 1: two young sons, and my wife was from here, from Kentucky,
Speaker 1: from Lexington, and I was playing in the golf tournament
Speaker 1: here and the guy that owns all these radio stations
Speaker 1: here offered me a job with the ESPN Radio. So
Speaker 1: we moved here mostly because my wife and my boys. Right,
Speaker 1: That's how I got here. So sport it is the
Speaker 1: answer to that question. How old are your kids now?
Speaker 1: Oh my lord, Uh, I'm really old. You were not.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I am really old old. Thank you. Jenny
Speaker 1: always told me the truth. I have a seventeen and
Speaker 1: a fourteen year old, that's nothing. I got a twenty
Speaker 1: three year old, Matthew. Excuse me, I'm seventy one. Jen,
Speaker 1: I know you're not what stop it? Yeah? What you
Speaker 1: just blew my mind? Don't compare me with you, Jen
Speaker 1: with your children. Okay, wow, you are you are old?
Speaker 1: What the hell? You look great? You look great for
Speaker 1: seventy one. Wait, I gotta go backwards. I forgot to.
Speaker 1: I gotta ask just one question about Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 1: I I just want to know what that experience was like, Like,
Speaker 1: that's like one of my dreams. Like, can you just
Speaker 1: tell me what it was like to be on SNL. Well,
Speaker 1: it was. It was different than almost anybody else that
Speaker 1: has done it because our year, which was one, was
Speaker 1: the first year of the new cast. It was when
Speaker 1: everybody left and we were the next People hated us,
Speaker 1: I mean, and so the whole experience was very different
Speaker 1: culturally from the way the show was run to everything
Speaker 1: about it. But for me personally, where do you get
Speaker 1: the experience of even though not as many people watched,
Speaker 1: millions of people and you're doing live TV every week. Um,
Speaker 1: the three or four of the people on the show
Speaker 1: at the time, I absolutely loved. We were very close.
Speaker 1: Um and the musical guests that we had. That was
Speaker 1: the best part of the show to me. Every Friday
Speaker 1: when they would do they would come out and do
Speaker 1: voice checks. Aretha Franklin James Brown, Prince, Uh, Debbie Harry
Speaker 1: would stand there nobody in the studio, and and then
Speaker 1: when of course, when they were you know, doing their thing,
Speaker 1: Prince came out. Nobody knew who he was, and he
Speaker 1: came out and did the weirdest song. He was humping
Speaker 1: the stage he was at I mean, and nobody knew
Speaker 1: who he was, and we were all I can Eddie
Speaker 1: Murphy was on with with me that year. All I
Speaker 1: can remember is Eddie that laugh that Eddie has, just hysterical.
Speaker 1: And then you know, when all of a sudden Prince hit,
Speaker 1: we went, wait, that's that guy that was on the show.
Speaker 1: Here I and I have I have wonderful men. Reason
Speaker 1: like I said, of the people just like you guys,
Speaker 1: it's so much about the people that you work with,
Speaker 1: as you know, I mean, um, it was an amazing experience,
Speaker 1: but it was weird. That year was definitely weird. You
Speaker 1: have the greatest stories. First of all, Oh, you have
Speaker 1: no idea, You have no idea. I could spend hours
Speaker 1: just listening to your stories. And you know what, Jen
Speaker 1: and I have talked about this so many times, but
Speaker 1: it is one thing that we we regret. But when
Speaker 1: you're young. It is yourself involved, You're it's about you
Speaker 1: and what's going on. But if we we've this is
Speaker 1: numerous times this has happened. We wish we could go
Speaker 1: back and do a do over and have gotten to
Speaker 1: know people on a different level. We've talked about that
Speaker 1: with Carol Potter and because it's like we didn't know
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry that we didn't ask you about you
Speaker 1: because listen to the stories you have. We would have
Speaker 1: been so blessed to hear these stories. Then, yes, but
Speaker 1: then I could have nearly as many stories as I
Speaker 1: do now. First, I always say this about You're You
Speaker 1: said that, so I'll say this about you. I always
Speaker 1: talk about this because people ask me about you guys
Speaker 1: a lot. They always haven't, they always will. You grew
Speaker 1: up in a situation that nobody in the world grows
Speaker 1: up in and for you back then, It's why I
Speaker 1: love the story about what you did with that little
Speaker 1: girl when she came. For you to be the person
Speaker 1: that you are is the most incredible thing in the world.
Speaker 1: It's not easy, what what all of you went through.
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody realizes to what it's like to be
Speaker 1: the most famous people when you're that young. You don't
Speaker 1: even know who you are. Yeah, and everybody has these
Speaker 1: feelings about you and thoughts about you and criticisms about you.
Speaker 1: It's an almost impossible situation. And this is what I
Speaker 1: mean for me to look at the two of you.
Speaker 1: I just spoke to Brian for the first time twenty
Speaker 1: five years. We talked for sorry a half hour. It
Speaker 1: was what he's turned out to be after everything he's
Speaker 1: been through. And you, guys, people have no idea how
Speaker 1: amazing it is. They have no idea. Um You're such
Speaker 1: a blessing, both of you to so many people, so
Speaker 1: many thank you. You wish we could hug you right now.
Speaker 1: Boy do I wish that. I'm going to come out
Speaker 1: to l A this summer. Can we see you? I
Speaker 1: I promptly we will get together and we'll have dinner.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a bunch more stories that I can't
Speaker 1: talk about. Good. Look at that face on gin. We
Speaker 1: we we before we end with you, we want to play.
Speaker 1: We do these rapid fire questions with what we do
Speaker 1: with that, because I know you'll be a hoot. Many
Speaker 1: sisany sisney is gonna give it to you. Be sure
Speaker 1: I've got them here. Okay, So favorite character on then
Speaker 1: Antino besides mal Silver. You know what, no one ever
Speaker 1: said themselves, Yeah yeah, hell yeah, alright, favorite cast member. Oh,
Speaker 1: I can't answer that. You can't do that, all right?
Speaker 1: If you take the girls out, the least favorite cast member,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just I'm just missing. I almost that almost.
Speaker 1: I'm doubt that's for when we get together. And okay,
Speaker 1: I would say, Brian, if I take the two of
Speaker 1: them out, I would say, okay, Now, if you had
Speaker 1: a favorite no to a NO couple out of all
Speaker 1: the couples that were more throughout the whole seasons, which
Speaker 1: one would be your favorite? Me and Jackie there you
Speaker 1: get nice before I had the affair with the dental,
Speaker 1: got it, it happens. Now this is gonna be tough
Speaker 1: for you. But if you had to kiss Mary or
Speaker 1: kicked the curb one of the characters, who would it be?
Speaker 1: So you kiss a character, you marry a character, and
Speaker 1: then one of them you just throw away basically, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be real honest here. I would kiss Tiffany. Okay,
Speaker 1: I like it. She's very kissable. I get it. I've
Speaker 1: done it, all right. Who would you marry Oh god,
Speaker 1: I uh see, I can't say this. If we lived
Speaker 1: in Utah, I would marry those two perfect that your
Speaker 1: aunt's sister lives and me siver new show. Okay, we
Speaker 1: got a show here. This is good, and I imagine
Speaker 1: you probably don't want to kick anybody to the curb.
Speaker 1: But if you had to know, all right, we will
Speaker 1: make you towards you. Okay. Interesting he went with the
Speaker 1: real life actors, not the not the characters. I did that.
Speaker 1: Neverbody crossed my mind. That's interesting. Yeah, yeah, oh the
Speaker 1: characters easy? That. No, they're not easy. I still want
Speaker 1: to go with the real people. Well, you're you're the
Speaker 1: real deal, that's for sure. No, did you ever get
Speaker 1: to keep anything from the show wardrobe or prop anything?
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't keep any props. I don't know
Speaker 1: what what kind of props my dental drill. This is
Speaker 1: a funny story that I told Larry and Chuck too
Speaker 1: real quick. We got a script one time and it
Speaker 1: said mel is doing root canal on a patient in
Speaker 1: his office. And I said, I can't remember who wrote it.
Speaker 1: I said, have you ever had root canal? Do you
Speaker 1: know what's involved in a root canal? I can't fake that.
Speaker 1: They said, Okay, well, what should you do? I said,
Speaker 1: give me one of those little mirror things, you know
Speaker 1: that you look in somebody's mouth. How about I'm doing
Speaker 1: that in this scene. You don't know how to get
Speaker 1: a root canal? What's wrong with you? No? I know,
Speaker 1: I should. I had plenty of them. I should know
Speaker 1: how to do. I didn't get to keep any props.
Speaker 1: I think I kept some of the wardrobe because my
Speaker 1: wardrobe was pretty nice, except for the wedding pictures that
Speaker 1: I keep seeing. People keep watching the show and they
Speaker 1: text me with a picture of what they just saw
Speaker 1: our marriage, that tuxedo thing that I was wearing for
Speaker 1: the wedding. Of course, it was a long time ago,
Speaker 1: but remember that my clothes, for the most part, were
Speaker 1: pretty cool. I'm sure I stole I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 1: they gave me some of them. Some of them. You
Speaker 1: taught us all the tricks. Wait. Were you on the
Speaker 1: new nine O two one? Oh? Okay, No, which I'd
Speaker 1: always thought was kind of weird because you and Jackie
Speaker 1: created and one of the main characters Silver It was
Speaker 1: Aaron Silver. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. And you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm glad, I really am. I really don't. I want
Speaker 1: to be associated with our show. That's all the O.
Speaker 1: G Yeah, loyalty is there. So Matthew, we love you
Speaker 1: talking to you. I love you guys more. Um, I
Speaker 1: really mean it. This has been a really tough year
Speaker 1: obviously for everybody. Yeah, and it's things like this that
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how this makes me feel inside,
Speaker 1: just to not only talk to you, but to look
Speaker 1: at your two faces. So thank you for thinking of
Speaker 1: me than hugs. We always think about you, and we
Speaker 1: love you, and we'll see you this summer. Okay, love you,
Speaker 1: love you too. Oh oh my god. That just made
Speaker 1: me so emotional. I love that man so much. He
Speaker 1: was so good to me on that show, gud. There
Speaker 1: were days, because you know, we went through stuff off
Speaker 1: camera that was hard, and there were days that he
Speaker 1: was just so kind and made me laugh and hugging
Speaker 1: me and just he's always so warm and a good
Speaker 1: person could just take a bad mood and make it better. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's one of the good ones. I can't wait to
Speaker 1: get drunk with him this summer and hear some juicy stories.
Speaker 1: It's so good baby. We'll let you guys know what happens.
Speaker 1: We'll let you get a tissue tory and we'll take
Speaker 1: a break and we will come right back. Okay, so
Speaker 1: let's get into fashion deus and don't who liked what,
Speaker 1: who hated what? Tell me? Tell me this is a
Speaker 1: little bit of a fashion less episode, right, Well, it's
Speaker 1: it's just a theme. Everybody's kind of got that can't
Speaker 1: be theme. So there was no there were no like
Speaker 1: fashion standout moments. I just appreciated all of the campaign.
Speaker 1: Dylan and a jean jacket with a white T shirt
Speaker 1: is just so classic perfect, that's it. Yeah, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's It's like when I saw that, Yeah, when I
Speaker 1: saw that scene of him, I was like that that
Speaker 1: works now, like it worked then works out and it
Speaker 1: was him and that was just like that's how you
Speaker 1: always remember Dylan McKay that white T shirt and jean
Speaker 1: jacket and his hair was just on point, Like both
Speaker 1: Brandon and Dylan's hair were like the best they've ever been.
Speaker 1: I think this is when they were like really realized
Speaker 1: it's all about her hair. I know that scene of
Speaker 1: them before they went hiking. I was just going back
Speaker 1: and forth, like looking at both of them and just
Speaker 1: their sideburns. Did you guys ever noticed Tory? I want
Speaker 1: to ask you this Luke has a scar and his
Speaker 1: eyebrow in his right eyebrow, I think, And do you
Speaker 1: remember it becoming more prominent through the run of the show,
Speaker 1: like early on it wasn't as prominent. I feel like
Speaker 1: you're right for the makeup lady. Think her name was Alex,
Speaker 1: Yeah was, And I can't even remember her cutting the
Speaker 1: hairs to like accentuate the scar. Smart. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know whose idea that was. But do you remember why
Speaker 1: he had that scar? I don't. I don't remember why.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, you're right, You're right, that's a smart move.
Speaker 1: That's like iconically part of him, So why not enhanceome
Speaker 1: watching it? It was the first time we wore what
Speaker 1: were those boots like Doc Martin's were obviously Timberland's, Thank you,
Speaker 1: the Timberland's with the slouch socks. Yes, making you don't
Speaker 1: you have to have those? Oh you have to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it also if you're not going hiking. They were a
Speaker 1: fashion statement. Now now you can wear them with them
Speaker 1: just about anything. Yeah, do you think I've ever hiked?
Speaker 1: Like I wore them all the time. You're not a
Speaker 1: big hiker, you know the answer to this. She's trying
Speaker 1: to rile me up. We should go hiking sometime, like
Speaker 1: never yeah. Uh. Lines from the show nine to two one, No,
Speaker 1: you didn't. I kind of said mine. Earlier it was
Speaker 1: the Newlyweds that said, do you want to come in
Speaker 1: for a toast? I like Dylan's line, my mom says,
Speaker 1: my planetary alignement is in severe disarray, which was setting
Speaker 1: the stage for his mom, who was Stephanie Beacham so
Speaker 1: iconic and um, okay, say my own. You know what
Speaker 1: they say, it takes two to tango, tangle tangle. You
Speaker 1: said takes two to tangle, right, I miss obviously in
Speaker 1: Donna true Donna form said the wrong line because like
Speaker 1: it is a term like it takes two to tangle. Sorry,
Speaker 1: it takes two to tangle. Whatever I am, Donna Martin,
Speaker 1: It's okay, I still can't get it right. You know
Speaker 1: what it means? You know what they say, it takes
Speaker 1: two to tangle. All right. We have a few listener questions.
Speaker 1: Listens from Christine. I've heard that sometimes in the entertainment
Speaker 1: world you are surrounded by yes people. Have either of
Speaker 1: you experienced this and did you know they would do
Speaker 1: whatever you asked? Does this cause problems in other relationships
Speaker 1: in real life? Did any of your other castmates have
Speaker 1: yes people? And did they use this to their benefit? Oh,
Speaker 1: they want you to call some people out as well.
Speaker 1: A lot of questions on that one question. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of questions in these questions. I've noticed that they
Speaker 1: get they packed them there. Yeah, definitely, I think actors,
Speaker 1: that's what happens. And especially when you're young, at least
Speaker 1: from my perspective, and Jen, I know you feel the
Speaker 1: same way, Like you know, there you don't know that
Speaker 1: they're doing whatever you want. You think it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I have all these new friends and they always just
Speaker 1: want to do what I want to do and we
Speaker 1: just get along so well, it's like we want the
Speaker 1: same thing. And it's not until you look back on
Speaker 1: the situation you're like, oh, but the yes people it's
Speaker 1: not always to your advantage because usually the yes people
Speaker 1: are also the clingers there, you know. Yeah, not only that,
Speaker 1: but like it sets you up for failure later in
Speaker 1: your life because reality check, there's not a lot of
Speaker 1: yes people out there, you know, and and as you
Speaker 1: as I've grown up and and like experience different things.
Speaker 1: I kind of expect people to go along with whatever
Speaker 1: I want, but that's not necessarily what they want, and
Speaker 1: so it kind of sets you up to be like
Speaker 1: to have a harsh reality check later in life, because
Speaker 1: the people around you that truly love you are not
Speaker 1: going to be yes people. They're going to be honest people.
Speaker 1: That's true. And also it's those yes people that are
Speaker 1: also We've talked about this before. When you're out and
Speaker 1: having fun, you're like, Oh, they like to eat what
Speaker 1: I like to eat. They like to go to places
Speaker 1: I like to go. They're also the first to go
Speaker 1: to the bathroom or like go about to get their
Speaker 1: cars when the track comes, Like there's a reason you
Speaker 1: just can't believe that you're paying for it. Oh well,
Speaker 1: Mitchell is asking. You said your personal lives changed because
Speaker 1: of your nine o two celebrity status, but what about
Speaker 1: your professional ones, Like were there people around you who
Speaker 1: really came through or let you fall hard when you
Speaker 1: didn't expect them to, And what about career choices during
Speaker 1: and right after the original run? Would you choose to
Speaker 1: go in the same direction now or would you change
Speaker 1: things up? Are we sure it's Mitchell. What if it's
Speaker 1: Michelle or I thought it was Michelle, but there was
Speaker 1: no e at the end, so Michel, it's mckel. Well,
Speaker 1: m this is for you. I mean, it's so hard
Speaker 1: to go back and say I wish things had gone
Speaker 1: differently or what would I have done if it was different?
Speaker 1: But I feel like, I mean, our paths just sort
Speaker 1: of presented themselves before us, and you sort of take
Speaker 1: advantage of what comes your way and make your decisions
Speaker 1: based on what's kind of what are your options right
Speaker 1: in front of you? And I mean I know that
Speaker 1: right after the original run of the ten years of
Speaker 1: the show, when we did our finale, it took a
Speaker 1: minute for me to get my feet back under me
Speaker 1: and decide what I wanted to do next, Like what
Speaker 1: what do you do after that? And and who's going
Speaker 1: to hire you to play a different role because everybody
Speaker 1: identifies you with what you've just played for ten years
Speaker 1: on the super popular show. So it was about sort
Speaker 1: of waiting for the right thing to them along for
Speaker 1: me and being sort of selective. And I kind of
Speaker 1: like that now, Like I don't like to work, like
Speaker 1: it takes a lot of incentive to get me to
Speaker 1: leave my house to go work. I love what I do.
Speaker 1: I love acting, and I love like telling stories and
Speaker 1: helping and like giving people emotional journeys like I love that,
Speaker 1: but I hate to leave my house. So how old
Speaker 1: were your girls when the show rapped? I think I
Speaker 1: had one? Yeah, I definitely only you only had one? Okay,
Speaker 1: she was still little? One or two probably, And did
Speaker 1: it ever cross your mind and just like I just
Speaker 1: want to maybe be a mom for a few years,
Speaker 1: or or did you want to jump right back into
Speaker 1: something that's the only thing I knew how to do? So,
Speaker 1: like I had to pay the bills, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: I had created all through this ten years a lifestyle
Speaker 1: that's certainly something that I had come from. It's something
Speaker 1: that was created by this show and and the industry,
Speaker 1: and so I had to keep up the lifestyle, you know,
Speaker 1: and and pay for the house and pay for the
Speaker 1: cars and pay for the kid, you know, all the
Speaker 1: things you have to do when when when your life
Speaker 1: starts to roll like that? So then yeah, you just
Speaker 1: want to work when the show ended. For me, I
Speaker 1: really wanted to do comedy. That was my thing because
Speaker 1: that was like Donna's thing. You know everyone you know,
Speaker 1: Jen was so I mean she's hilarious, Like obviously, now
Speaker 1: she's just amazing comedy. At the time, you were known
Speaker 1: for being like chromatic actress. Yes, and I never felt
Speaker 1: like I could find my thing and and that was
Speaker 1: my Niche was like the comedic moments. And when the
Speaker 1: show ended, um, I did a deal with Fox to
Speaker 1: develop my own sitcom and I was super excited and
Speaker 1: it was the first time it was in front of
Speaker 1: a live audience, and um it was the creator that
Speaker 1: went on to create Family Guy. Like it was like
Speaker 1: a big deal. And I was like, oh, all I
Speaker 1: knew was a successful TV show, right and went on
Speaker 1: for ten years? Did the pilot. I was like, oh cool,
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna be on a sick I'm a sitcom attress, actress,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be funny, and it's gonna go on for
Speaker 1: ten years. And it didn't get picked up. So that
Speaker 1: was like a harsh reality because it was like you're
Speaker 1: on such a high and you're like, it's just gonna
Speaker 1: go right into something else successful and that didn't get
Speaker 1: picked up. And then after that it was like back
Speaker 1: to auditioning. It was like whoa reality check? You know,
Speaker 1: you can go from a hit show and then have
Speaker 1: nothing and have to you've climbed that mountain and just
Speaker 1: you have to start all over again. That was a
Speaker 1: big deal, but it helped turn me into what I think.
Speaker 1: I'm a hustler. Like I was just like, Okay, let's okay,
Speaker 1: here I go. I'm back out auditioning every week and
Speaker 1: just let's do it. I wish that I had had
Speaker 1: sort of more of a plan, like your question would
Speaker 1: would would you change things up? Would you go in
Speaker 1: the same direction? Now? I wish that I had some
Speaker 1: sort of a plan, you know, like a business plan
Speaker 1: of how I wanted to run my corporation, like like
Speaker 1: created more things off of the buzz and the hype
Speaker 1: of what I was and like you're you're not necessarily,
Speaker 1: but just like I wish I knew what I wanted
Speaker 1: to do, Like I never even wanted to be an actress,
Speaker 1: Like I didn't know I wanted to be a nine
Speaker 1: or two one. Oh, I didn't know I wanted to
Speaker 1: be a mom my. My life is just sort of
Speaker 1: always unfolded in front of me and I kind of
Speaker 1: go with it. But I wish if I could go
Speaker 1: back that I was like the person that said, I'm
Speaker 1: going to go to business school, I'm gonna learn to
Speaker 1: do this. I'm going to create my own company. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have a fortune situation. I'm gonna have a yacht.
Speaker 1: Like I wish I had a plan for my career.
Speaker 1: I still can. Do you feel like anyone on nine
Speaker 1: oh two and I had that plan, like a plan
Speaker 1: in place of what was next and like mapped it
Speaker 1: out strategically. I mean, I think if if anyone had
Speaker 1: those conceptions, I don't know if they played out the
Speaker 1: way they wanted them to, because I think after the after,
Speaker 1: after any show ends, an actor has that natural time
Speaker 1: where they have to kind of reinvent themselves or you know,
Speaker 1: take a breath and and and change gears a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think all of us kind of experienced that in
Speaker 1: our own way. It's it is interesting though we were
Speaker 1: so young, but like now, like if Jan and I
Speaker 1: suddenly had like a nine two oh right now, we
Speaker 1: would know to be like, Okay, what's the big picture,
Speaker 1: what's the merch s? You know, what are the would
Speaker 1: be rolland hell yeah, we would like own private island
Speaker 1: now two and openating suits. We would be we would
Speaker 1: have our own airplane or something. Yeah, we would. We
Speaker 1: would have our faces wrapped on everything. But there was
Speaker 1: all this like no No two and no merch back
Speaker 1: in the day, even during the show. Did you guys
Speaker 1: get to cut it now? Oh my gosh, it was
Speaker 1: all your faces that angers me. It should like we said,
Speaker 1: we would do it all very yeah. Yeah, the contract
Speaker 1: negotiations would have taken longer for that reason. Oh my goodness. Well,
Speaker 1: this is a jam pack show, you guys. This is
Speaker 1: a good episode. It's fun. That was what's next? What's
Speaker 1: our next episode? Wild fire? You that sounds dangerous? Is
Speaker 1: there fire involved it? Wild? No? I just remember the title. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch it. I hope you guys are too.
Speaker 1: I hope you liked our chat with Matthew Lawrence did.
Speaker 1: We sure had a good time. Amazing. He's very sweet.
Speaker 1: He loves you girls so much. Lots of love. There's
Speaker 1: so much love on our show with all that, all
Speaker 1: the moving parts, a lot of love, crew cat used everybody.
Speaker 1: So we're really happy to be here with you guys
Speaker 1: every week. And uh, I guess we'll see you next week.
Speaker 1: You guys. Bye. H