1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Jason Smith Show with Mike 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Harmon podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weeknight 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: ten pm to two am Eastern seven to eleven pm 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon at Foxsports Radio 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every night on the 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: Give you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: Greetings and welcome in. Second half of the show begins 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 3: here Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with Me, Mike Harmon, 11 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 3: Jason Off tonight back tomorrow. Rich Hornberger in his stead 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 3: six years in the league. Hear him down in San 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 3: Diago as he gets your day started on seven sixty 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 3: and then of course on Saturday mornings, part of our 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: Countdown Crew all things college football in a couple of weeks, 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: but for now, a rich menagerie of stories across our 17 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: great sporting landscape, making a bit smarter in the odds 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: and ends, and certainly the odds of getting you to 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: the winner circle. H paramutual wagering, you name it, They've 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: got you covered. There you go? Did I did I 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: sell that? Well? 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah you did? 23 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, you did well, maybe he hit up del 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 3: Mar for a little bit of wagering and things of 25 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 3: that nature. So you know, you got it all on 26 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: it every Saturday over here at Fox Word Radio. 27 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fun show. 28 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 5: Working with Brian Know, who is a sports better and 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 5: working with Jared Smith, who is a betting analyst, has 30 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 5: been kind of an eye opening experience because you know, 31 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 5: you you really do realize where the pros and the 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 5: sharks have got the general public's numbers because I I 33 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not referring to Brian Know as a 34 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 5: professional better, but he talks about betting a lot. He 35 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 5: frequently bets, he he has action on WNBA props, he 36 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 5: talks about, you know, the misses in the makes that 37 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 5: he has in his own life. And then Jared Smith, 38 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 5: obviously a study of the game of sports betting. When 39 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 5: we do our rapid fire picks, I am often in 40 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 5: last place. I I it's it's because I am Johnny Public. 41 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 5: I am as green and wet behind the ears as. 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 4: You could possibly be. 43 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 5: And it's it's very funny to see how I'll stumble 44 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 5: where they'll soar. Sometimes it's it's it's interesting, but you 45 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 5: know it's It's true you can become better at gathering 46 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 5: information and using that information to create smart betting strategies, 47 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 5: and and listening to those two guys, especially on our show, 48 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 5: can can lead you to making better decisions. Whereas I'm 49 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 5: a little bit more shoot from the hip type, a 50 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 5: little bit more of a gunslinger, like call me the 51 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 5: Brett Favre of the group. 52 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 3: Nicely done, which means you're getting intercepted and run back, 53 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: as in your wallt empty down with I'm kind of 54 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: no I did it would you did the bread far 55 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: of analogy and I took it too far at Hoornberger 56 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: where you find him in the Twitter verse find me 57 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 3: over at swallowing up. You know, it's funny, long long 58 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 3: ago on the fantasy shows here on the network, it 59 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: was I've been here long enough to where I used 60 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 3: to get the occasional note. Could you stop talking about 61 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: the betting guys like well, that kind of helps inform 62 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: when they've got an over under on you know, rushing 63 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: yards or whatever statistic you want in terms of how 64 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: we're ranking guys. Just just see, you know, still fell 65 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 3: on deaf years. It was like, don't do that. I 66 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: was like, okay, it was supposed to be part of 67 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: that whole Tony Romo thing all those years ago in Vegas. 68 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: You know, we had all those panels and guys were gonna, 69 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: you know, talk about fantasy football because they were making 70 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: money off it, and they said, well, let's go capitalize 71 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: a bit more in the NFL said yeah, no, you're 72 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: not gonna do that. All these years later, now you've 73 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: got signage everywhere. I can't wait for the fire suit, 74 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: like the like a NASCAR thing for NFL players and 75 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: the full immersion. 76 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 77 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, I look at I look at all of this, 78 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 5: as you know. I mean, in some ways it's enlightening 79 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 5: because I think it's bringing something that has been in 80 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 5: the dark shadows of the sports viewer or or a 81 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 5: person who pays attention to sports their consciousness. You've always 82 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 5: known that sports betting was going on. You've been a 83 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 5: part of it. Maybe super Bowl pools or those grids 84 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 5: you know once a year. 85 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe you're more advanced than that. 86 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 5: Maybe occasionally at a party, you know you'll take a side. 87 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 5: Maybe you're closer to the odds than other people. Maybe 88 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 5: when you're in Vegas during March, you know, you'll throw 89 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 5: a couple of tickets in the window on your favorite 90 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 5: college hoops teams. Like, there's a variety of experiences that 91 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 5: people have had with sports betting or closeness or proximity 92 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 5: to it. But if there's one thing that has I 93 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 5: think collectively raise the IQ of the sports viewer or 94 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 5: the person who cares about sports in this country is 95 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 5: the proliferation of. 96 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 4: These betting apps. 97 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 5: You know, there's so much more information being spread around 98 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 5: about players, about spots that teams are in, and a 99 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:27,119 Speaker 5: more deep and nuanced understanding of some of the things 100 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 5: that happened during the course of a season or a postseason, 101 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 5: and leads to making better decisions in. 102 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 4: That space if you pay attention to. 103 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 5: It, which is almost unavoidable at this point. And like 104 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 5: you said, Mikey, it's always been intertwined anyways, it's just 105 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 5: now being illuminated now people are more aware of it. 106 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: I don't think it's a bad thing necessarily. 107 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 5: I think it's it's probably taken a lot of the 108 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 5: conversation that was happening anyways out of the shadows and 109 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 5: into the light, which is probably a healthier, a healthier 110 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 5: place to be. 111 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, changing the discussion of how we look at players 112 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: and the analytics for sure, and what you're watching, and 113 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 3: you get some in the broadcast and more numbers being 114 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: pushed out as to you know, decision trees by coordinators 115 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: and their histories, et cetera. I mean, it's all trying 116 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: to make us better, smarter students of the game. And 117 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: if you can win a buck or two along the way, 118 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 3: all the better. 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But I'd 137 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: be remiss we didn't jump off the betting and countdown 138 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 3: talk into well the odds in the AFC North the 139 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: Steelers plus five fifty. They are the predicted third in 140 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: the division. I add of the woeful Cleveland Browns, who 141 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: we chronicled going all the way back to our one 142 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: podcast will go up. You can hear that whole conversation 143 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: and what Ersay and everybody had to say about the 144 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: setup for this year, including a little conversation on arch Manning. 145 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: But the Ravens are the favorite follow out the Bengals 146 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: as they're finally getting things all squared away. It looks 147 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 3: like Hendrickson shows up tomorrow and should probably be signed 148 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: in short order, well in advance of the opener. But 149 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: last Hour started with a little bit of the Jerry 150 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: Doula talking about how Aaron Rodgers can spin it and 151 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: what he's seen in training camp and all of the 152 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: you know, the rays of light from the heavens above 153 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: coming off of that right arm twenty eight and eleven 154 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: a year ago, rich sixty three percent completion rate for 155 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: Rogers with those two weapons DeVante Adams and Garrett Wilson 156 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: leading the charge for him. Well, no Wilson here, change 157 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: up a little bit, but lofty expectations as we have 158 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: each and every year because of Mike Tomlin's streak. Can 159 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: the Steelers keep the streak alive in terms of not 160 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 3: having a losing season? But more importantly, we got to 161 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: ask the billion dollar question at all? Can they actually 162 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: win a playoff game? Something they haven't done since twenty seventeen? 163 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 4: Great question, h. 164 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 5: My knee jerk reaction is yes, because when you have 165 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 5: an elite coach, which in my opinion, Mike Tomlin is. 166 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 5: I know there's some people with the playoff win drought 167 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 5: would argue otherwise, but I do still feel very strongly 168 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 5: that he's a great manager of personalities. Obviously, he's got 169 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 5: a great sense of staff needs in terms of his 170 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 5: coaching staff. 171 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 4: He's a players coach. 172 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 5: Every player, former teammate, or peer in the NFL who 173 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 5: I've spoken to about their time playing in Pittsburgh under 174 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin has only lauded him. I don't think I've 175 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 5: heard anybody say anything particularly negative about him. That's kind 176 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 5: of hard to come by. In the NFL. There's always 177 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 5: a complaint, but overall it is complimentary when talking about 178 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin, you know. So you look at that one 179 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 5: aspect of it, Yeah, you know, they're pretty hemmed up 180 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 5: at head coach. Then you look at the other most 181 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 5: major area of importance for any NFL team to have success, 182 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 5: it's the quarterback position, and the quarterback position in in 183 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 5: this case, they're also in really good shape. And I 184 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 5: know what everybody's been saying about Aaron Rodgers, and I 185 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 5: get it. I get it because it did not look 186 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 5: good with the New York Jets. And I understand to 187 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 5: some Aaron rodgers honesty and openness and self interests and 188 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 5: maybe political views are detestable. 189 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 4: And that's fine. 190 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 5: You can have any opinion of anybody you want, especially 191 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 5: when they avail themselves to criticism the way that Aaron 192 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 5: Rodgers does. He doesn't seem to care whether you like 193 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 5: him or not. He's just speaking his mind and speaking 194 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 5: his mind freely. But in terms of like his his 195 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 5: individual performances, they still hold up Aaron Rodgers is still 196 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 5: at very least a top fifteen quarterback in the NFL, 197 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 5: if not a top ten performer in the NFL in 198 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 5: a lot of metrics, and I know I'm talking about statistics, 199 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 5: but we have advanced analytics now, Mike, and I know 200 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 5: you pay attention to these two, like you know, success 201 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 5: rate of throws and things like yards per completion and 202 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 5: some of the more advanced ones like bad throws, like 203 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 5: we can actually say objectively when a quarterback throws a ball, 204 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 5: whether it should have been intercepted or not, whether it 205 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 5: was thrown to the right area on the receiver or not. 206 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 5: And he still rates insanely high in some of those 207 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 5: more nuanced stats. As a matter of fact, when you 208 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 5: compare him to the NFL's MVP last year, Josh Allen, 209 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 5: there's a lot of metrics where Aaron Rodgers really holds 210 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 5: up or defeats Allen statistically. Now, he didn't have as 211 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 5: much team wide success as Allan. I'm not saying he 212 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 5: had a better season than Allen. I'm just saying it 213 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 5: holds up. It doesn't pale in comparison, so to you know, 214 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 5: to kind of go back to the original question, Yeah, 215 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 5: I think this could be a good year for the 216 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 5: Steelers if they put a couple other things together. 217 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: The curiosity, right, how much he gels with Arthur Smith 218 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 3: or does he kind of just push him to the side. 219 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: I just say, I'm running this stuff. 220 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's look. 221 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 5: We know that that relationship has been tenuous in the past, 222 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,239 Speaker 5: and I'm talking about Aaron Rodgers. Working with any offensive coordinator, 223 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 5: there have been opinions on how things should be ran. 224 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 4: But Arthur Smith is a bright guy. 225 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 5: And I think he's gotten a lot out of a 226 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 5: lot less talented quarterbacks than Aaron Rodgers in this league. 227 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 4: And this is a tough league to win in. This 228 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 4: is a tough league. 229 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 5: To prepare quarterbacks who are less than satisfactory to have success, 230 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 5: and Arthur Smith has shown that he's able to do 231 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 5: that now. As a head coach, mixed results obviously wasn't perfect, 232 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 5: But as a coordinator. 233 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 4: He's done some special things in his career and there's 234 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 4: no arguing with that. 235 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 5: So I'm curious how he accommodates Aaron Rodgers. I'm curious 236 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 5: how they gel together as well. But he's gotten a 237 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 5: lot more than he'll need to out of much less 238 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 5: talented quarterbacks than Aaron Rodgers in the past. 239 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 4: So I know I'm very bullish. 240 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 5: Right now on the Steelers, and it is still very 241 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 5: much so wait and see, But I'm I think it 242 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 5: could work, man, I really do well. 243 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 3: Certainly plenty in the cupboard over under his eight and 244 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: a half wins nice in the meaty part of the 245 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,599 Speaker 3: curve as we Lloyd look at it. But you go 246 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 3: back to last year, it's Fields and Wilson. You go 247 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:42,239 Speaker 3: back before that, it's Picket, Rudolph Trubisky, then Picket and Trubisky, 248 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: Roethlisberger and Rudolph for a couple of years when Roethlisberger 249 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: was really at the end of his run. You have 250 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 3: the Mason Rudolph, Duck Hodges Roethlisberger combination before that. So 251 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 3: for the Steelers winning and keeping that streak alive in 252 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 3: spite of all the quarterback channels. And we look at 253 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 3: the roster as currently constituted, you have metcalf and Robert Woods, 254 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: and now Woods has had long tenured a lot of 255 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 3: Pelts up on the wall and a lot of teams, 256 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 3: so literally Jerseys up on the wall from his travels. 257 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: But if healthy, solid number two Calvin Austin has shown 258 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 3: in spots. You got Roman Wilson, you're expecting bigger things 259 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: from you make the big acquisition bringing in John hu 260 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: Smith to pair him with Pat Fryarmouth. I wanted to 261 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: have some fun with that video the other day, but 262 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: there's no good audio that came out of it where 263 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 3: Rogers checked down and you had Friarmuth throwing up his 264 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: hands in disgust. It's like I thought that we really 265 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: was gonna get some more play. So that was interesting. 266 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 3: Jalen Warren now the number one, but Caleb Johnson out 267 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: of Iowa you're number two. And you add Kenneth Gainwell 268 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 3: as well, who's shown a bit in Philadelphia. So you've 269 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: got plenty of weaponry to dispatch there for Aaron Rodgers 270 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 3: and Arthur Smith. Defensive the ball, you know they're always 271 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: going to be tough. So yeah, they had eight and 272 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 3: a half. Number seems perhaps a little bit light, but 273 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: from Mike Tomlin, it really does come down to can 274 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 3: you win, because even in some of the public comments 275 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: from ownership, they don't make changes, but they seem a 276 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: bit perturbed where they're running in place these last couple 277 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: of years. 278 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 5: Right, And I'll be super brief here, but in terms 279 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 5: of the impatience from Steelers fans and even in this case, 280 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 5: you just brought up the ownership, I get it, But 281 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 5: where is the grass greener its? Do want to at 282 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 5: some point move on from Tomlin? Where are you going 283 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 5: to turn to where it's going to be better than Tomlin? 284 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 5: And the answer is good luck, good luck if that's 285 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 5: the choice you make. 286 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: Richie, I'm a Bears guy, and my partner, you know 287 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: on the nightly basis is a Jets guy I had 288 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: killed for three years of continuity, let alone twenty. He's 289 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 3: rich horn Berger. And for Jason Smith, I'm Mike Carmon. Hey, 290 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 3: you can stream this show all our Fox Sports Radio 291 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: shows live twenty four to seven. 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Right after 315 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 3: we get off the air, we'll get back to building 316 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 3: The Perfect Beast, a ranking coming out of the NFL 317 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 3: that has been postured, and I want to get Rich's 318 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 3: observations on it as a man who's played and been 319 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 3: around the league as long as he has. But we'd 320 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 3: be remiss if we didn't send out a little note 321 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 3: of prayers and support to the good folks in Hawaii 322 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 3: coming off of this eight point seven magnitude earthquake off 323 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 3: the eastern coast of Russia that's now ripping through. So 324 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: a huge tsunami threat. We're watching some warnings expected to 325 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 3: hit at seven o'clock local time there in Oahu, seven 326 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 3: to ten for Kawhi, so thirty five minutes from now. Japan. 327 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 3: Hawaii and Alaska on high alert and this is developing. 328 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 3: There was an estimate that whatever portion of it, however strong, 329 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: that it would hit shores here in southern California around 330 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 3: one am. So keeping an eye on this as more 331 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: and more information flows. But scary stuff as the next 332 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 3: natural disaster appears imminent. 333 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's frightening when things like this happen because you 334 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 5: it reminds you how little we actually have control over, 335 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like, you know, we're on 336 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 5: a daily basis. You go through your life and you 337 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 5: don't think much about the actual world that we're living 338 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 5: on until you know, it burps funny and then all 339 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 5: of a sudden, people literally run for the hills. And 340 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 5: that's what this is. I mean, this is just what 341 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 5: you learned in earth science in sixth or eighth grade 342 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 5: at your middle school. It's you know, tectonic plate action. Yeah, 343 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 5: you know a couple of divergent zones, and all of 344 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 5: a sudden you have a natural disaster on your hands. So, 345 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 5: like you said, Mikey, we're thinking of all of you 346 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 5: out there, who are who are you know taking precautionary measures, 347 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 5: and you should be heed the advice of people who 348 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 5: know better than you do in these situations. You'll never 349 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 5: regret maybe over preparing uh and and and not having 350 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 5: to worry about damages to the home you left behind 351 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 5: for a few hours, but you will regret it, you know, 352 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 5: if you're stuck in Waiste high water and currents are rushing, 353 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 5: So yeah, get if. 354 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 4: You can get to safety, please do. 355 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 5: And while you're doing it, if there's anything we can 356 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 5: pass along, we absolutely will. 357 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll be keeping an eye on this all the 358 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: The directors and person emergency personnel are having their their 359 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 3: pressor now to try to give whatever information they have, 360 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 3: and the Bulletin's scary stuff though, when we start seeing 361 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: the emergency broadcast signals popping up on the news channels, 362 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 3: I mean, certainly day to day, as you mentioned so brilliantly, 363 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 3: they're rich. You try to get through your day as 364 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 3: best you can, and that's where you turn to us 365 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 3: for your levity at a little bit of a break 366 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 3: from whatever. The serious nature is. Not that we don't 367 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 3: talk serious subjects here, sports is, but it's still the 368 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 3: play zone oftentimes talking about games, box scores, prodigious home 369 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 3: runs and things of that ilk So we'll keep an 370 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 3: eye on this as we continue. But back to the 371 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 3: business of sports Jason Smith Show with me, Mike Carmen 372 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: rich Ornberger in for Jason. So this list from ESPN 373 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: that they put out the metric where they're ranking squads, 374 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: number of starts made by players under twenty five, number 375 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 3: of snaps from players under twenty five, quality of play 376 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 3: age adjusted numbers, a lot of metrics that go through, 377 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: but ultimately trying to figure out, you know, the youth 378 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 3: served and building the perfect beast towards the winner. The 379 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 3: number one ranked squad in this is Houston. Then you've 380 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 3: got Seattle, Washington, who obviously had the huge come up 381 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 3: last year with Jaden Daniels and what they were able 382 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 3: to put together. He and Cliff Kingsbury and company. Now 383 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 3: they retool and bring in Deebo Samuel. The Giants are 384 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: fourth in terms of youth, and I'll let everybody else. 385 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 3: I want to pause for about a second and a 386 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 3: half and let you write your punchline two three. Yesterday 387 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 3: you were talking about injuries and notices in training camp. 388 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 3: Now we know Malik Neighbors has ongoing foot and potentially 389 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 3: his shoulder issue that he may have dodged, so all 390 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 3: of those things. But when you know you're around the 391 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 3: locker room, and certainly you go back to the Belichick 392 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 3: days and later on with Arizona, you know, the locker 393 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 3: room and trying to feel what's what's just right, not 394 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 3: too hot, not too cold, trying to find the right 395 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 3: temperature and mix, particularly when the front office changes are 396 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 3: so perilous year after year, because we talk yearly. Rich 397 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: you and I have done this these shows together for 398 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: years where you have just a handful of teams, which 399 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 3: is why you go back to Pittsburgh's again, they changed 400 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 3: out a GM, but it was a guy that was 401 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 3: already in the building, right, so Omar Kahan got a 402 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 3: couple of years and now he's the guy, and he 403 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 3: got a contract extension and it's his vision with a 404 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 3: team that's been in place. Very few NFL teams can 405 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 3: we say the same. So all of that, it becomes 406 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 3: this trying to have that mix of art and science 407 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 3: to get together. And I'm curious, you know, from your 408 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 3: experience around the league and talking to folks, you know, 409 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 3: as while you were playing in post career, of you 410 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 3: know just what the feeling is around. Certainly for economic purposes, 411 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: you'd love to have a lot of starters sitting there 412 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 3: at twenty two to twenty three, which means you've hit 413 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 3: on a bunch of drafts and dart throwing at times. 414 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 3: But we know all too well me a Bears guy 415 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 3: winning the offseason doesn't do a whole lot once they 416 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 3: start flying for real. 417 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, listen, you can crunch the numbers and say, okay, metrically, 418 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 5: the best teams have a mix of like you mentioned, 419 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 5: kind of the dart throwing that happens in the NFL draft, 420 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 5: young players who are huge contributors to your success because 421 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 5: arguably they'll be with you for years to come. You know, 422 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 5: the goal is to hit on draft picks and then 423 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 5: retain that talent before these players reach free agency. This 424 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 5: way you get them for a cheaper price than the 425 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 5: open market would dictate their worth. 426 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 4: Right. 427 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 5: That is the goal of every NFL franchise. Doesn't always 428 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 5: work out that way, but that is the goal, trust me. 429 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 5: When your build a roster. Secondarily, you do need to 430 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 5: have veteran leadership that can direct the team. And then 431 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 5: not only leadership, but also those leaders need to be 432 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 5: main contributors to whether it's on special teams offensively or defensively. 433 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 5: You need to have talented players who also have cachet 434 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 5: in the locker room and people, even people who are 435 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 5: potentially more talented than those veteran leaders, they still will 436 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 5: listen to them because they have stage wisdom. So that's 437 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 5: an important aspect of it. And then also you need 438 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 5: to have a coaching culture, which often doesn't get discussed 439 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 5: when talking about roster construction, but a coaching culture that 440 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 5: matches the type of player that is in the building. 441 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 5: What happens sometimes is there's disconnect between the front office 442 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 5: and the coaches. Coaches put in their requests for players, 443 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 5: general manager and pro personnel directors they go a different 444 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 5: way with some of their selections or their opinions on 445 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 5: what's going to build a stronger team may differ with 446 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 5: some of the personality choices or the culture choices that 447 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 5: coaches are making or interested in, and that's when things can. 448 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 4: Get a little bit out of whack. So, yeah, you. 449 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 5: Can pay attention to you know, ages, and you can 450 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 5: pay attention to you know, system fit. You can pay 451 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 5: attention to a lot of different aspects. But look, Mike, 452 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 5: you know this as well as I do. Special teams, 453 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 5: they're kind of these very fleeting, nuanced ideas that you 454 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 5: you know, sometimes you can grab a hold of it 455 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 5: for years and create a dynasty, but oftentimes it's just 456 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 5: for one moment in one year, the stars coalesced in 457 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 5: the right way to create the perfect storm or the 458 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 5: successful product you were hoping for in and then before 459 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 5: you know it, it disintegrates in front of your eyes and 460 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 5: it's back to the to the starting line, you know. 461 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 5: It's It's interesting, though, when you hear in the preseason 462 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 5: how certain teams are built up for success and they underperform. 463 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 5: And it's because games aren't one on paper, They're going 464 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 5: to be decided between the white lines. 465 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: That's just it. We try to parse out the data. 466 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 3: I want to ask you about one team in particular 467 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 3: team you played for nineteenth on this list, they were 468 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 3: six to a year ago, twenty seven year old quarterback 469 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. Can he actually lead them forward after all 470 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 3: of these false starts, great starts to seasons? Can they 471 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 3: actually finish the job with a retooled defense and the 472 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 3: rise up perhaps of Marvin Harrison junior. 473 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 4: Man. 474 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 5: I hope so, because I think it's a better league 475 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 5: when you have a Kyler Murray who was playing with 476 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 5: his hair on fire because. 477 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 4: He has been this man. 478 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 5: How how can I describe him that accurately portrays him? 479 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 4: I say it his best. 480 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 3: He gin his like Sonic the Hedgehog running around. Yeah, 481 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 3: like his hair's on fire with and he's and he's 482 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 3: got a cannon for an arm. But little guy. And 483 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 3: when he starts moving, it's like you always wonder it's 484 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 3: like the old Baby Brute tape. Did they speed it 485 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 3: up as he's running around the bass. 486 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, like the legs are kicking so fast. Yeah. 487 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 5: I really enjoy watching Kyler Murray play. I think he's 488 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 5: a great competitor. I think he's a super talent, but 489 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 5: I think he's been on the fringe of greatness. 490 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 4: You know, It's like. 491 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 5: He's hanging on to the last rung of the ladder 492 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 5: to be considered one of the top quarterbacks in the 493 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 5: NFL year after year after year, and it's like you're 494 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 5: waiting for the final puzzle. 495 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 6: It's like you've that's what That's the best comparison I 496 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 6: could come up with Kyler Murray his career. It's like 497 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 6: you built the puzzle, but you're like missing one piece 498 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 6: in the corner and an annoying piece in the middle 499 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 6: of the puzzle. 500 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 5: That you know, I mean, you knew it was in 501 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 5: the box. You've done this puzzle before, but it's a 502 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 5: really important piece, Like it's a piece of the face, 503 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 5: like like one of the people in the portrait missing 504 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 5: an eye, like, and you need that. 505 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 4: For it to be a complete puzzle. 506 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 5: Like it's just there's something missing, and I don't know 507 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 5: what it is. Maybe it's Harrison Junior advancing, becoming more 508 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 5: comfortable in their system or becoming a bigger contributor at 509 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 5: some point in his career. 510 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 4: But I do know this. 511 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 5: I think a more competitive NFC West with a well 512 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 5: led team like the LA Rams with Sean mcvahan Matthew 513 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 5: Stafford at the Helm with a well led team like 514 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 5: the San Francisco forty nine ers, you know, with a. 515 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 4: Guy like. 516 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 5: John Lynch making pulling the strings behind the scenes, and 517 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 5: Kyle Shanahan and an emerging star in Brock Party who's 518 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 5: coming on you know a year with an enormous contract 519 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 5: attached to him now. And then a team like Seattle 520 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 5: who seems like they're trying to pull it together with 521 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 5: Mike McDonald, and we'll see what that looks like. But 522 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 5: if Arizona can put it together, if Kyler Murray can 523 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 5: put it together, man, the NFC West could all of 524 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 5: a sudden become one of the most interesting conferences or 525 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 5: divisions rather in football again. 526 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 4: And so can it happen? Yes? The answer is absolutely yes. 527 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 4: They have the tools in the desert. Will it happen? 528 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 5: I have my sincere doubts because, like I said, all 529 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 5: of Kyler Murray's career, it always feels like there's been 530 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 5: one puzzle piece missing. 531 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny, as you mentioned, you know McDonald, and 532 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 3: I immediately my brother sent me something earlier with a 533 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: screenshot of the What's Happening open He goes. You see 534 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 3: the screenshot, you're immediately humming the theme song from what's 535 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 3: happening in the old seventies? And you also it might 536 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 3: be in your head thinking of a Doobie Brothers song, 537 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 3: who coincidentally also were on a two part special two 538 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 3: part episode about taping concerts on What's Happening? See it 539 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 3: all comes together to the Doobie Brothers and Michael McDonald. 540 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 3: See what you did to me? 541 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 4: There? 542 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 3: You took me down the rabbit hole? Nicely done? There, 543 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 3: nicely done. Gosh, Now you're gonna think about growing a 544 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 3: beard and becoming a I might a singer. There you go, I. 545 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 5: Might die my beard white in honor of I Boy. 546 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 5: If there's one person I love is Michael McDonald to 547 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 5: celebrate his entire catalog good Man good Man. 548 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 3: At Hornberger where you find and find me over at 549 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 3: Swallowing Dome. Now the person will celebrate their entire catalog 550 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 3: right now. He's a legend of himself. I have all 551 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 3: of his albums. It's Steve Disager. 552 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 4: What are we're here? And here? 553 00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 3: So what's happening? Attempting to dribble a basketball down is 554 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 3: Thomas Twain and Rock and we run Stub's a great 555 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 3: Fred Barry Well, we got one one game still going 556 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 3: in the Major League tonight. That's in Anaheim. 557 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 7: Angels lead seven to five over Texas in the bottom 558 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 7: of the eighth innings. San Diego has beaten the Mets 559 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 7: seven to one. Juan Soto, the Mets left this game, 560 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 7: fouled the ball off his foot. The injury is called 561 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 7: a bruise. Manny Machado a three run homer. The Mets 562 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 7: are first in the NL East, but just a half 563 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 7: game over the Phillies now, who won six to three 564 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,719 Speaker 7: at the White Sox. Kyle Schwarber in his thirty seventh 565 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 7: home run. Miami and the A's with wins. Houston ended 566 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 7: a five game losing streak with a seven to four 567 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 7: win over Washington. Pittsburgh handed San Francisco a fifth straight loss, 568 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 7: three to one, two runs in the eighth. Pirates have 569 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 7: won seven of eight. Kansas City nine to six over Atlanta. 570 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 4: The Braves. 571 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 7: Ronald Acuna left with achilles tightness. He's in a walking boot. 572 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 7: Boston an eight to five win at Minnesota. Milwaukee beat 573 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 7: the Cubs again, nine to three. They lead the Cubs 574 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 7: by two games in the NL Central. The Brewers Jackson 575 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 7: Churio left with a hamstring issue. The Dodgers won at 576 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 7: Cincinnati five to four with a run in the top 577 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 7: of the ninth, So the Dodgers first in the NS, 578 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 7: still four games up on the Padres, and that lead 579 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 7: was nine just a few weeks ago. The Dodgers in 580 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 7: these last few weeks now have a record of seven 581 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 7: and thirteen wins for Detroit and Cleveland. Yankees beat Tampa 582 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 7: Bay seven to five. Cody Bellinger hit a three run homer, 583 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 7: and Baltimore has won five in a row. They swept 584 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 7: a double header from first place Toronto sixteen to four. 585 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 7: In the opener, Orioles hit four homers in that game, 586 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 7: makeup game from a rainout in April, and Baltimore took 587 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 7: the nightcap three to two over the Blue Jays with 588 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 7: a run in the bottom of the eight. You mentioned 589 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 7: earlier there was a trade during the double header. Toronto 590 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 7: acquired reliever Sir Anthony Dominguez from Baltimore, so we actually 591 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 7: to start game two switched. Bullpens actually had to walk 592 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 7: past his now former teammates to go. 593 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 3: To visitors bullpen hey, good run. 594 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 4: He came in the. 595 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 7: Game and struck out two of his former teammates in 596 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 7: the seventh inning. Trade deadline is Thursday. Bengals defensive end 597 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 7: Trey Hendrickson will report to training camp on Wednesday. He's 598 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 7: been holding out for a new contract. He led the 599 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 7: league in sacks last year. The Jets signed veteran kicker 600 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 7: Nick Folk. Tight End Isaiah Likely of the Ravens will 601 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 7: miss a few weeks after rolling his ankle at practice. 602 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 7: Brown's defensive back Martin Emerson was carted off at practice 603 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 7: with an achilles injury, a non contact injury. Three Chiefs 604 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 7: wide receivers left practice early today, including Hollywood Brown with 605 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 7: an ankle injury. Denver linebacker Alex Singleton will miss about 606 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 7: a week after surgery for a broken thumb. Lions defensive 607 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 7: back Terry and Arnold left practice due to a hamstring injury. 608 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 7: The Lions are in the Hall of Fame exhibition Thursday 609 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 7: against the Chargers. LA will start quarterback Trey Lance. He 610 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 7: could play into the third quarter. The Chargers to have 611 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 7: a first round running back of Marion Hampton of North Carolina. 612 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 7: He'll be playing and then Saturday and Canon. The new 613 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 7: Hall of Fame class will be Enshrine, which includes ex 614 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 7: Charger and Tony Gates. And Yes, NFL offices will remain 615 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 7: closed through next week after yesterday's shooting in the building 616 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 7: in New York. 617 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 3: Back to you, thanks so much, Steve. Steve de Saga 618 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 3: at the news desk. We're keeping an eye on Hawaii 619 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 3: under a tsunami watch expected to hit some half hour 620 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 3: from now. We'll be keeping an eye on that as 621 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 3: it develops and keeping you aprized. Of course, he's rich 622 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 3: Orberger in for Jason Smith. I'm Mike Carbon coming up next. 623 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 3: We'll stay into the theater of the absurd. Yes, the 624 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 3: big crowds, singing, dancing. The revolution will now be televised 625 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 3: on a whole other level. Are you watching? 626 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 4: Are you in? 627 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 3: You can tell me now. 628 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith 629 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 2: Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven 630 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 2: pm Pacific. 631 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 3: Welcome back ed Fox Sports Radio Mike Carbon alongside rich 632 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 3: Ornberger in for Jason Smith tonight. Thanks for hanging out 633 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 3: with us. Thanks to the squad making it sound so good. 634 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 3: Alex justin our guy, Steve de Saga at the news desk. 635 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 3: Back Brandon Patrick in the back. Hey, be sure to 636 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 3: check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Search Fox 637 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 3: Sports Radio on YouTube. You'll see a whole bunch of 638 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 3: video highlights from our shows. Be sure to subscribe so 639 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 3: you never miss our very best Fox Sports Radio videos 640 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 3: on YouTube. Come out a bit about ten minutes, we'll 641 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 3: talk about a former NFL coach who might put down 642 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 3: all the unboxing videos for a minute to try to 643 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 3: coach again. 644 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 4: Who is it? 645 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 3: Well, well, we'll get you in on that one as 646 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 3: we roll forward. But as we look to the televisation 647 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:36,439 Speaker 3: of sports and the fracturing of our viewing horizons, here 648 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 3: rich with all the different streaming services. One of the 649 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 3: most popular new sports, which is a twist on one 650 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 3: you love the national past time, Savannah Bananas announced to 651 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 3: deal with TNT Sports that's starting in mid August and 652 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 3: running through the Banana Ball Tour Championship game on October eleventh. 653 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 3: True TV and HBO Max. True TV usually part of 654 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 3: our fun and excitement of the NCAA Men's tournament where 655 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 3: it's televised and we play the game that everybody tries 656 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 3: to copy. Is this a real True TV show or 657 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 3: not that Jason he comes out of his dome. Between 658 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 3: True TV and HBO Max, they're going to play nineteen 659 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 3: of these games. They're gonna tell avise nineteen games. You 660 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 3: got PNC Park a little bit at Yankee Stadium, tea mobile. 661 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 3: I mean we're talking about selling out mass arenas you know. 662 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 3: Later on this week we've got the game coming from 663 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 3: Bristol in Tennessee where they've sold out sold eighty five 664 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 3: thousand seats to the Bowl Ring. Crazy is that? I 665 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 3: mean we're talking crazy crowds. So what we've watched with 666 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 3: the bananas a bit here, we've seen some of it 667 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 3: in studio. Look, it's not one that I'm necessarily trying 668 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 3: to get in. I know, folks have entered a lot 669 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 3: of ticket lotteries for when it was down by you 670 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 3: and San Diego and different events where they're selling out stadiums. 671 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 3: You're bringing back a legendary players and artists. I mean, 672 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 3: this is a whole other revenue enhancement. And now i'm 673 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 3: i'm my interest is peaked as to how big this 674 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 3: can get. Harlem Globe Trotters were big when we were kids. 675 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 3: We've talked about it a little bit. You go to 676 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 3: that and you know the circus and all those things 677 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 3: of yesteryear. Now this is the combination of everything. This 678 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 3: goes back to the p T Barnum comparison of Jerry Jones. 679 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 3: That's what these guys are doing. And he looks like 680 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 3: the man with the yellow hats. So we're gonna hat 681 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 3: curious George Noises while we're at it. 682 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, what's amazing about the Savannah bananas or 683 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,919 Speaker 5: exhibitions in you know, the sports well, I shouldn't even 684 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 5: say sports adjacent. I mean it is sports. They're they're 685 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 5: obviously talented players. They have some tricks. Let's call it 686 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 5: like league adjacent adjacent exhibitions like the Globe Trotters, you 687 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 5: know what I mean. That's that's what this sort of 688 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 5: that's the lane this sort of run into. But it's 689 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 5: like the Globe Trotters of this generation. You know, there's 690 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 5: a little more edge, a little bit more social media intrigue. 691 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 5: I remember when I was a kid, the Globe Trotters 692 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 5: would appear on Saturday morning cartoons. 693 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 4: You know what I mean like that. 694 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 5: At one point, So, I mean, you know, absolutely absolutely 695 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 5: it was. It was a brand that was marketed to 696 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 5: the masses and it worked. That is that is a 697 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 5: very similar phenomenon right now happening with this event of bananas. 698 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 5: They've they've created a they've cornered a market, they found 699 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 5: a void, and the marketing has been brilliant. The social 700 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 5: media buying, especially early adopters to you know, TikTok and 701 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 5: things like that, Instagram reels, they've gone viral so many times, 702 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 5: and like you said, now they're holding full blown concerts 703 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 5: and inviting celebrities to collaborate with them. 704 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 4: It's brilliant. It's it's absolutely brilliant. 705 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 3: Now I have to ask. There was something that went 706 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 3: viral only yesterday. I don't know if you saw it. 707 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 3: Uh CNN doing a feature on the bananas. The guy 708 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 3: tried to do a backflip and he face planted. I'm 709 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 3: then said that he got paid extra to take a dive, 710 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 3: because if he just appeared on CNN, nobody cares. But 711 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 3: the fact that he face planned and took one for 712 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 3: the team, that's kind of what I believe here. He 713 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 3: took a he took a bump. To go full WWE parlance, 714 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 3: I need a. 715 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 5: Bump, But the way he did it, I mean, man, 716 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 5: usually you brace yourself a little bit. He would he 717 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 5: sold out if that was a bump. He went face 718 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 5: to floor, He went forehead to to uh to to 719 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 5: cedar Pine. 720 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 4: I mean it was it was that was a thrust man. 721 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 4: It's uh yeah. Let's put it this way. 722 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 5: If there's a way to sell your product and go 723 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 5: viral in front of the masses, that that is one 724 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 5: way to do it. Like they said, there's no such 725 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 5: thing as bad publicity. 726 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 4: There's only publicity. 727 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 3: You gotta love it to see an anchor that that 728 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 3: what you saw just there as a brand new twist 729 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 3: in America's favorite pastime instead of hey is that guy? Okay? Nope, 730 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,959 Speaker 3: stuck to the stuck to the monitor and the telepromper. 731 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 3: You gotta love that, no question about it. At Hornberger, 732 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 3: I'll be curious to say what kind of ratings they draw, 733 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 3: and that the crowds keep flowing but selling out these 734 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 3: stadiums left and right, standing room and starting to get 735 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 3: more bands and entertainment on board at Hornburger where you 736 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 3: find rich find me over at Swollendome coming out next 737 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 3: we get back into the NFL. Maybie college football, I 738 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 3: don't know we're gonna talk about it. Can a guy 739 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 3: get back on the sideline as a coach? We'll tell 740 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 3: you next