1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to everybody. Take Monday edition of Texans All Access 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: from the Honday Texans Radio studio. We are getting ever 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: so close. We are nine nine days away. My gosh, 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: it's in single digits. We're in nine days away from myself, 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: John Harris, your host football addis Ishild, the reporter and 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: the voice of the Texans Mark Vanomy, who joins me 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: now being out at practice eight am. Texas Training Camp 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: live starts. I cannot wait. Mark, good evening. How are 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: you doing, Johnny. I was just out at the broadcast 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: site at the Houston Methodist Training Center this afternoon, and 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: by news flash, this is breaking exclusive news. It was 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: very hot out there today. That's my exclusive news from 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: training camp so far. I and Disney Harris, who does 14 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: a tremendous job setting up all these events that we have, 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: virtually all of them. She was out there and her 16 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: crew and they're setting out these stands, the season ticket 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: members and those other people who will be able to 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: win entry into training camp, other fans. It is gonna 19 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: be spectacular. It's gonna look great. It already does. But 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: they're still building, you know, finishing up on some of 21 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: the stands, areas new fields, on at least two of 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: the fields, I think, and our broadcast position very close 23 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: to the field as always really looking forward to being 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: out there with you and describing everything going on at 25 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: training Camp. I am pumped. You can feel it. It's here, 26 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, as you get towards July twentieth, you know, 27 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like when a rocket launches and 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: hasn't launched yet, but it's on the pad and smoke's 29 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: coming out, fire, and it's like, when's it gonna go up? 30 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: That's where we're at right now. Yeah, Drew, and I 31 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: think it was last week on in the lab we 32 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: decided kind of looked at each other and said, man, 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: training camps coming up, and Drew just said, hey, let's 34 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: do like some of our favorite members from Training Camp, 35 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: we had some good ones, but one of mine was 36 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: it was fortunate for the Houston fans in some sense 37 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: because it was seventeen and eighteen, in particular twenty seventeen 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: when we went to the Greenbrier for the first time 39 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: and you you actually had taken a trip there, I think, 40 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: like a reconnaissance mission earlier that year, earlier in the spring, 41 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: but I had not been there, and I remember going 42 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: live that first day, like pulling up and seeing where 43 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: we were and looking around and just thinking, did I 44 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: die and go to football Heaven? Like this is unbelievable. 45 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 1: It was still kind of a chill in the air 46 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: and you just saw mountains and I'm like, oh my, 47 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is It was unbelieva was one 48 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: of my most I'll never forget that particular year because 49 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: it was so new. Then we went back in twenty eighteen, 50 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: it was just as great, but it was you know, 51 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: we had kind of been there, done that sort of thing, 52 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: and we still enjoyed it because the weather was fantastic 53 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: and we had made the great people up there and 54 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. Oh it's great. But I 55 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: will say twenty nineteen coming back home was was really 56 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: really nice. Last year really weird. So hopefully twenty twenty 57 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: one is going to get us back to a little 58 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: bit more of what we saw in twenty nineteen out 59 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: there at training camp, and it's These are the most 60 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: fun radio shows that we do those two weeks. I 61 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: love those weeks because we've done them from everywhere Denver, 62 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: Green Bay, Um goes to two. That first kind of 63 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: minded Greenbrier for a number of weeks. Uh, San Francisco, 64 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: I did. I think I think we had finished just 65 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: before we went to San Francisco. Maybe we did. We're 66 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: out there, maybe we did. We did a couple or something. 67 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: I think we did a couple while we're out there. Man, 68 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: we've been We've been around. Uh, there's no question about that. 69 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: But we will be in Houston. We are one. This 70 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: is this is an odd year. I saw this pop 71 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: up on my Twitter feed today. We are one of 72 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: a very few number not doing joint practices this year, 73 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: which we were always we were right in the mix 74 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: of doing it, but this year we're not. The Rams. 75 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: They're doing it twice. Green Bay's doing it with the Jets, 76 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: I think, which makes sense because Sala and Matt Lafleur 77 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: are very close. There's it's odd that we're not doing 78 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: drect practice, but either way, it'll be fine. There'll be 79 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: plenty of stuff going on and we will capture it 80 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: for you all. Houston Texas dot Com the app, which 81 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: is great. You gotta download the app. Mobile ticketing, you 82 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: definitely need that for the season. And then of course 83 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: on sports radio Sports Radio six ten Space Jam. I 84 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: want to get to this. We've got a lot to do. 85 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: We got we've got start bench cut. We're gonna do that. 86 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: We're also going to break down a position each day 87 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: leading up into training camp. Today is gonna be defensive backs. 88 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: We'll do that in a second. But Space Jam a 89 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: new legacy. I think it's called a new legacy. Yeah, 90 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: it's interesting because it was a pretty big talking point 91 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: throughout Twitter, and somebody were like a lot of it, 92 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: hate it, A lot of it hate it. What do 93 00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: you think of space Jam a new legacy? I'm just 94 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and say before we're I love, I 95 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: loved it. It's you gotta take you for what it is. 96 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: It's just exact. It's Looney Tunes. It's fun. He's expected 97 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: to be too serious and get lost, but it was fun. 98 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: That's where I look at it. What I love is 99 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: the critics, the people who think and Josh and it's 100 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: I gotta get him, give him credit. He tweeted this 101 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: out and my sentiments exactly said, too many people are 102 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: acting like space Jam. One was Citizen Kane. You know, 103 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: it was this amazing, critically acclaimed movie. It's Michael Jordan 104 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: and Looney Tunes. Characters playing basketball. Okay, let's not overreact 105 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: to it. It's for kids, and it's fantastic stuff for kids. 106 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 1: And you know what's Space Jam two? Fantastic stuff for kids. 107 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: That's what I thought. I saw it over the weekend 108 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: and I thought, fine, it's great. It's for kids, just 109 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: like One was right. One is not one of the 110 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: best movies of the nineties. Now if it is, to 111 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: you listener, that's fine, that's great because my big thing 112 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: was my Even my kid thinks Space Jam one is 113 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: like Gone with the Wind or something. It's this historic film. 114 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: And you know, but he liked Space Jam two. He 115 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: liked the whole lebron thing. And you know, there are 116 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: some things I would do different about the movie. But soone. 117 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: That's every movie I see, and I just think that 118 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: it's good, kid fun. It's almost like, I'll tell you what, 119 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: adults and a lot of people are gonna get upset 120 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: with me right now, Johnny. Adults overreact to negative reviews 121 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: about Star Wars films. It's Star Wars. It's an adventure 122 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: story and outer space. It's barely science fiction. I say barely, 123 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: because to me, the matrix is science fiction. Inception is 124 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: science fiction. Star Wars is an adventure story set in 125 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: outer space. That's how I look at it, anyway, And 126 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: people freak out like this one's no good or this 127 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: one's not they're look, they're all kind of the same 128 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: if you look back and look at them closely. Anyway, 129 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: That's how I feel. Yeah. And the one thing I 130 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: Wilson that I really liked about it was all the 131 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: little like easter eggs, all the little things that you 132 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: saw that you're like, oh, that's funny. Like when Don 133 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: Cheetle was morphing into various coaching characters. Yes, if you 134 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: knew who the Yeah, if you knew the coach that 135 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: he did one where he was Belichick, where he had 136 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: the hood Over. Yeah. I was dying laughing at times 137 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: at some of the little things that they mixed in 138 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: throughout the whole show. But it was fun. I watched 139 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: it with my son. My son's twenty one, and he, 140 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: you know, he's his movie taster, a kind of all 141 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: over the place. He loves rom coms, believe it or not, 142 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: and he likes comms. He likes comedies. Yeah, my son 143 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: loves rom com Dan. Can we watch a rom com? Like? Sure? Um? 144 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: When he loves comedy. But I will say this, we're 145 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: in the midst. I'm in the midst of rewatching. He's 146 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: in the midst of watching for the first time Ozark. 147 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: Oh see, that's where I thinks about having having older kids. 148 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: Like having older kids. I could watch that stuff with him. 149 00:07:55,120 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: Watch It's like, oh, it's going back and rewatching. Holy smokes. 150 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: I mean at the end of each season he has 151 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: just sat there and stared at me on the couch 152 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: like did that just happen? And I can't even tell 153 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: him what happens at the end of season three, it's 154 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: gonna be wild. So anyways, that's one of the things 155 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: that you guys have to look forward to with your 156 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: with your boys getting older, sharing some things like that, 157 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: because that is neither rom nor calm, and he absolutely 158 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: loves it. I'm not ready to see Ozark with him 159 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: just yet. But I will say with that show episode one, 160 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: season one, if you don't like that, you don't need 161 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: to watch the rest of the series. That is one 162 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: of the best debut episodes of a series I've ever seen. 163 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: I can't think of a better one. As a matter 164 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: of fact, breaking no, that debut episode set it up 165 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: so well and completely gripped me as a viewer. So 166 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: I liked it. Yeah, it is. It is absolutely tremendous. Yes, 167 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: we've done breaking Back and so here's the other one. 168 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: So some people may know, this may not. My daughter 169 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: is out in Los Angeles doing some things and trying 170 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: to work away into the acting industry. And so she 171 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: was on a shoot, um Monday, last Monday. I was Monday, Yeah, 172 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: last Monday. And so she called afterwards the next day 173 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: because it was like it was like a sixteen hour shoot. 174 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: They were out there from like four thirty in the morning, 175 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: oh boy, Pacific time, until I think it was probably 176 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: like six or seven thirty. It was. It was, it 177 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: was long day. Anyways, she calls me the next day 178 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: and she's like telling me all about it and all 179 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: the different people she saw, and she's like, and then 180 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 1: I met this guy. His name was Martin. He was 181 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: German and he was he said he's in an episode 182 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: A better call Saul, and I almost fell off the couch. 183 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: I was like, what the Germans and Better called. I'm like, no, yeah, yeah, no, 184 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: I think he's in an upcoming episode, not a previous episode. 185 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't care. The fact that he's 186 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: in Better Calls. Also, my son got caught up on 187 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: Better Call Sault too, so he's all, he's all caught 188 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: up on that, and we told him and he just 189 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: went crazy. So uh it's yeah, those those shows. It's 190 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: pretty cool that I can now share those shows with Jack. 191 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: And I'm sure you'll be able to do that with 192 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: the vander Kids plural at some point. But but yeah, 193 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: I think, uh yeah, those are our film reviews for tonight, 194 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: Cisco and Ebert thumbs up both for Space Jamp. More 195 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: than likely people are listening for our Cisco and Ebert 196 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: on football. And so I figured each day or as 197 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: much as we can up until training camp, and we'll 198 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: probably do it through training camp. We'll do a position, 199 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: we'll pick a position, we'll kind of pick it apart 200 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: a little bit, and so I came up with different 201 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: questions within that group. So tonight's position analysis is in 202 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: the defensive backfield. Now, one thing, just as a side note, 203 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: if you are reading anything anything that we write talk 204 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: about I we'll talk about a different way, but anything 205 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: that we write put on video any of that, all 206 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: you will see are the letters D and B. That's it, right, 207 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: You won't see nickel, you won't see safety, you won't 208 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: see corner, you won't see slot, you won't see any 209 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: of those things. You're gonna see d B for defensive back. 210 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: That's it. And you're gonna see that written. I mean, 211 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: I'll write it now. We all have a pretty good 212 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: idea just to replace safety. But we went through this 213 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: whole thing last year with Lonnie Johnson. Is he a corner? 214 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: Is he a safety? Yeah? Lonnie solved the thing for 215 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: everybody who said, oh look, I'm just a defensive back, 216 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: and lo behold, that's kind of the change in nomenclature. 217 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna see offensive lineman, all of them, offensive lineman, center, guard, tackle, 218 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: offensive lineman across the board. So when we talk about 219 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: defensive backs, we're talking about every body not splitting them up. 220 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: So here we go, mark defensive backfield. First question. The 221 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: defensive backfield player most under the microscope to perform well 222 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, it's either Justin Reid or Bradley Roby, right, 223 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: because they have to. You have the feeling here, Johnny. 224 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: Not things could change the way it shakes out, and 225 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: depending on what you actually have here, when we see 226 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: these guys play, But the microscope goes on those guys, 227 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: and you could say pressure whatever, because both those players 228 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: have to perform extremely well best of their ability a 229 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: game all the way in order for this defense. You 230 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: get the feeling to do anything that could get you victories, right, 231 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: I mean you feel that way. I mean, and I'm 232 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: when I say victories, I don't mean four. I mean 233 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: get you over that hump, to get you over the 234 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: eight nine win hump. So gosh, this seventeen game schedule anyway, 235 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: I feel like those two guys are the ones. Now 236 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: they're incumbents, if you will. But Robie is, Look, he's 237 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: a really good corner you know when he's out there healthy. 238 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: Now I know he can't play in game one. And 239 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: Justin Reid really good safety and has got to perform 240 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: like that on a consistent basis. He even says himself 241 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: didn't have all his best moments stacked up consistently last year, 242 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: but he did make a lot of good plays for 243 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: this team. Obviously, they need to get turnovers. We can 244 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: talk about that all day long. But those are my 245 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: two guys, Johnny, that are going to be most under 246 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: the microscope. Now, as far as the new players. You 247 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: can almost put a separate microscope on for the new 248 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: players category. Yeah, that's because we're okay. But as far 249 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: as the sixteen defensive backstay have. It's reading Robie for me, 250 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: how about you? For me, it's Lonnie Johnson. And there's 251 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: a there's a part of me, and I make sure 252 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: I say this is clearly because I shouldn't do this, 253 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: but there's a part of me that sort of takes 254 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: Roby and Reid for granted. Not that it should, but 255 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: I expect them to play pretty well. You know, by 256 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: the way, you make a great point about Justin Reid 257 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: because going to Cleveland, you know, Justin had he didn't 258 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: have the greatest game, but we came back from Cleveland, 259 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: played New England, he had one of his best games 260 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: of the year. Texans walk out of there with aub 261 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: You only gave up twenty points that day. I think 262 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: Justin Reid really is kind of the the well, you know, yachting, 263 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: how you drive the yacht. It's I think Justin Reid 264 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: goes a big way. Now you how you knew that. 265 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that the amazing, amazing, amazing, the Mizzen. 266 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: I don't know something you trim the sales, you deal 267 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: with the oscillating shifts, you attack on the headers. Got 268 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: it right there, you go. So I think it's Lonnie though, 269 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: because and the reason I say that is I think 270 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: if Reid and Robi play well, I think that's one thing. 271 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: And I don't want to say taken for granted, but 272 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: I kind of am. But if Lonnie plays well, then 273 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: you're talking about a physical safety that can do a 274 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: lot for you. He can cover and come up and hit. 275 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: We know that, I think is tackling has got to improve, 276 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: And I don't know if it looks. Last year was 277 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: the first year he's played safety. You know, he's played 278 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: corner high school, ye junior college, college, and he's played corner. 279 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: He gets moved to safety for the most part last year. Now, 280 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen he did play it, but he really 281 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: was kind of playing a cover safety against the Chiefs 282 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: in that playoff game. But he really moved to safety 283 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: for the first time. So now he's got kind of 284 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: a fuel for it, and the game looks different. It 285 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: looks really different from a safety position than from a 286 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: corner position. And sometimes in a corner a corner you 287 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: gotta just you're you're locked in on your guy. You're 288 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: playing man to man, You're watching that guy. You have 289 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: no idea what's going on inside. It's a safety. You 290 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: gotta see all that and you gotta take it all 291 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: in not taking that picture and then how the picture changes, 292 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: and then what's happening from sideline to sideline. And I 293 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: was talking about Jonathan Joseph today, and even though he 294 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: was a corner, I always feel like jjoe hand understanding 295 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: of what all twenty one other players were doing on 296 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: the field. That's the way you've got to play his safety. 297 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: I feel like Justin's moving in that direction where he 298 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: kind of has an idea of where everybody in the 299 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: field is, what they're all doing. Lonnie's got to get 300 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: there because he does. Now all of a a sudden, you 301 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: combine that with what Justin gives you. Now you can 302 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: look at and say, hey, these two back in they 303 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: look pretty good together. I kind of like this. They 304 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: obviously would like to see them, you know, turn turn 305 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: teams over, get some takeaways, but also I want to 306 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: see the tackle consistently. And there were times where the 307 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: tackling was off last year for too long a stretches 308 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: and that's got to be better this year. Okay, the 309 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: defensive backfield's best player on paper right now is do 310 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: you say Robie? Yeah? I think it's He's made big 311 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: plays at big times and big moments in this league. 312 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: And there are other guys who have done that, but 313 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: maybe not to the extent that he has. Now, that 314 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're gonna do it again. But Roby's only 315 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: twenty nine years old, Johnny, I say only because look, 316 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: he's got some years left here and this is a 317 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: big year for him personally and for the team. Obviously, 318 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: it's always a big year for the team. So I 319 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: would say it's probably him right now. I guess you're 320 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: gonna ask some other questions here because I got some 321 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: only guys to bring up and I want your feedback 322 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: on that. But I would say, Robikay, I think that's 323 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: I think that's probably I think you're right. The one 324 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: thing most people are overlooking as it pertains to the 325 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: secondary heading into training camp, Desmond King. I think people 326 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: are overlooking the fact that he's a good football team. Yeah, 327 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: that's a good one. I think between Desmond King and 328 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: Terrence Mitchell, let's just start with those two guys. You know, 329 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: you have some interesting players here, Johnny, like they could 330 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: really be a big boost for this defensive backfield, and 331 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: nobody's talking about them. Really. I mean, and look, I 332 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: get it, I get it. The Texans didn't win the division. 333 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: They won four games. They didn't bring in high priced, 334 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: marquee busting sports center leading free agents, but they did 335 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: bring in some guys who have some a few pelts, okay, 336 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: and Desmond King's one of them. And I think that 337 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: between King and Mitchell, you have two players that aren't 338 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: being discussed that could make a big difference. Could because 339 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: there's no guarantee here, But I'm really eager to see 340 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: what they show at the Houston Methodist Training Center starting 341 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: next week. I think you are dead on about Desmond King, 342 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: dead on, and I was. I was writing about him 343 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: the other day on something and it just struck me. 344 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: He's not the fastest guys, the biggest guy. You're not 345 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: the best tackler. He's not the best interceptor of the football. 346 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: But man, he's good. He's good in everything. Maybe not 347 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: elite in anything, but he's good in everything. And he 348 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: is a really good football player. Smarts. I maybe maybe 349 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: that's the maybe that's the elite aspect is how smart 350 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: he is his uh. I was talking with SuDS today 351 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: about this, but his ball awareness, knowing where the ball 352 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: is at all times, threats to go get the ball 353 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: where those receivers are. I think he and then go 354 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: getting the ball himself. You know, there's a He's a 355 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: definite ball magnet. I'm really excited about what Desmond King brings. 356 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: But I think one of the other things that people 357 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: are overlooking, and you know, we look, we've talked a 358 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: lot about you know, John Grenard, Ross Blacklocke, you know, 359 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: even Isac Holter's come up. You know from last year's 360 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: rookie class, the twenty twenty rookiey class. Not a lot 361 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: of people are talking about John Reid. And I still 362 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: think that John Reid's got little bit he's got, He's 363 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: got a lot left the show. And I think the 364 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: rookie year was so disjointed. I would see him in 365 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: the hallway sometimes and he just he just didn't look 366 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: like it was having a lot of fun. I mean, 367 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: we weren't winning, and he's rookie and everything's so disjointed, 368 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: and I felt for him. I was like, man, you know, 369 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: there are lot of times, I just want to go, 370 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: There're gonna put my mombro on him to say, man, 371 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: it's it's all right, it gets it gets better. And 372 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 1: I think he is wildly talent as a football player, 373 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: and I think he could be an inside guy. And 374 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: I think that he Desmond King can find their way 375 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: on the field and do some good things. And I 376 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: think John Reid's got something. And I think he is 377 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: a guy that gets overlooked in the secondary because we 378 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: talked a lot about the new guys. Terrence Mitchell, which, 379 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: by the way, Terrence Mitchell was here before. I don't 380 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: know if people realize that twenty fifteen. It just so 381 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: happened at that point. Jonathan Joseph Cree, Jackson, J Boyer, 382 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: and Kevin Johnson we're all here too, three of them 383 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: first rounders in a J. Boyer one of the best 384 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: free agents undraft the free age of Texas ever had. 385 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: Those are all the guys that are in front of him. 386 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: And yeah, Terrence Mitchell, you know, moved around to the 387 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: league a little bit, kept making plays, kept getting better 388 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: and better to a point he could come back here 389 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: and presumably be a starter at one spot. We'll find 390 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: out but I think I think John Reid gets overlooked 391 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: because he was a little later, you know, draft pick. 392 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: He was not a second or third rounder like Ross 393 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: and John were, and so I think he does get overlooked. 394 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: And I was watching the Week seventeen game against the 395 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: Titans last year, which will be a Week eighteen game 396 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 1: this year, but either way, and I was watching him. 397 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: I can't remember who he was up with, who he 398 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: was covering, but I just watched him. I was like, Wow, 399 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: it's pretty good. That's like really good coverage. And he 400 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: was a man coverage and did a nice job kind 401 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: of matching mirror and a slot receiver chased him are 402 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: on the field and Tannehill ended up throwing it to 403 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: somebody else. I thought, man, man, he bottles that channels 404 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: that bottles that he could end up being somebody that 405 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: we don't need to overlook. Now he's got he's got 406 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: to come to camp and really be ready to prove 407 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: it and jump on that opera community because I think 408 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: a defensive back to it. I don't know if anything 409 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: really is locked up at any spot. I don't think 410 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: anything's locked up. I think they're going to probably spend 411 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: a decent amount of time trying to figure out what 412 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna do with the group that they have. You 413 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: would think Roby and Reid would be two places to start. 414 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: But after that, you know, who knows? You know, how 415 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: do they how do they settle on? Who's the nickel? 416 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: Could Desmond King play safety? Could John Reid play safety? 417 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: Could John Reid win one of those outside corner spots? Well, 418 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna all play out with all those sixteen guys 419 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: and a number of them being new, it's gonna be 420 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: interesting to watch for sure. Well let me let me 421 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: share this with you, Okay, our lads is a site 422 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: that puts depth charts out there the way they see it, right, 423 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: Texans obviously aren't going to do that right now. They 424 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: don't even put what position you're playing. It's all dB 425 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: Like you said, for the sixteen guys, they have Jonathan 426 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: Owens and Terrence Brooks as reserve safeties behind Lonnie Johnson 427 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: and Justin Reid and nobody else at safety, Johnny, who 428 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: else on this team could possibly play safety other than 429 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: Brooks and Owens behind Lonnie and Justin Reid? I mean, 430 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: are we dealing with Eric Murray here? Could Cross and 431 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: play a little bit. I mean, oh, a J. Moore 432 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: still on this team. Okay, they haven't listed as a corner, 433 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: so he could play safety obviously, Yeah, absolutely, A J. 434 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: Moore's gonna be He'll be a safety, all right, safety. 435 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Desmond King could end up being 436 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: could end up being a safety. He's got those kind 437 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: of traits, but he's got he's got corner skills. So 438 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: the nice thing about training camp, he's you kind of 439 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: let some of those things play out. And you know, 440 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: as well as I do, as much as we don't 441 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: want injuries, there will be injuries, and they'll be forced 442 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: into hey, we might need to move this guy over 443 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: here because we're down a few guys, and all a 444 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: sudden you take a look at him and you go, 445 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 1: oh wow, kind you're pretty good back there, But can 446 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: we try that again? And then that guy runs away 447 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: with it? And hopefully that's what's going to happen. All right. 448 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: Those are our position analysis on defensive backs before this 449 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: team coming up. Next segment that I think is going 450 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: to be a staple on our shows going forward. It's 451 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: called start Bench Cut. We'll do that next of Texans 452 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: All Access. We are rolling on a modern edition of 453 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: Texans All Access. I am John Harris alongside the Voice 454 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: of the Texans Mark VanderMeer, and we said in the 455 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: first segment we asked, I asked a question about what 456 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: player the defensive backfield would be under the microscope the 457 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: most in twenty twenty one. Well, right now the voice 458 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: of the Texans, who, by the way, has called every 459 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: single game for this organization, and he's the only man 460 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: or woman in the NFL to do that for his 461 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: particular team. Wow. To keep that in mind, you are 462 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: you are that guy, and that's a that's very cool. 463 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: I always keep up always. I always had that. Oh, 464 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: by the way, I didn't tell you this. Oh gosh, 465 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: I can't believe I didn't tell you this. I don't 466 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: I don't know why this. I don't know why I 467 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: had this dream. But I had this dream the other 468 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: day that I left a microphone in the locker room, 469 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: or not in the locker room, in the in the 470 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: media room where I put my stuff at Lucas Oil Field, 471 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: and in trying to get back to it, I did 472 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: for some reason, didn't have my shoes on, and I 473 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: was having to go through all these different places because 474 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: you know, how it is in Indianapolis. You got all 475 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: these different corridors you can't go down. So I was 476 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: going down all these different corridors and I was I 477 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: ended up at Conseco Field House, which I don't know 478 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: what it is, Banker's Life Field or something now, yeah, 479 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: and then I ended up I ended up in the 480 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: Silver Dome. I don't know why, Michigan. I could not 481 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: get back to Lucas Oil Field. And I was like, man, 482 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: there's something there in that dream, but I don't want 483 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: to I don't want to analyze it right now. What 484 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: have a ball with this one? Yeah? Yeah. They tore 485 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: down the Silver Dome too, I know, I know, So 486 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what that's telling me. I mean, 487 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: Andre played in the Silver Dome and we hate the 488 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: Colts like poisons onner and maybe there's something you know 489 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: going on with that, but either way, I forgot to 490 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: tell you that. I thought i'd share with that with 491 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: the listener. So I was mounting around on the twitters 492 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: the other day and there's a famous game that people 493 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: will play, whether it's at home or on the radio, 494 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: where you can use explicit terms and black blank blank 495 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: and if you know it you know what I'm talking about, 496 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: and I can't use those terms, but I thought, man, 497 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: there's gotta be something. Well, I saw it on Twitter 498 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: that day. I was like, okay, this is perfect. I'm 499 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: stealing this. And as Sean McVay says, coaches are the 500 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: best thieves. Well, ye radio talk host every now and 501 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: again got a borrow an idea, and so I'm borrowing 502 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: this idea. So I think it's good. So we're gonna 503 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: change blank blank blank to start bench cut. Do it? 504 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: You're right ready? Okay, I've got I got eight of 505 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: them right here, and they will run the gamut and 506 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: you'll see exactly. I'll try not to even give them 507 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: a description. I'll just give them to you and then 508 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: you can figure it out, all right, everybody, Okay, start 509 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: one bench one cut one. Three quarterbacks who did not 510 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: win Super Bowls, Dan Fouts, Dan Marino, Philip Rivers. Oh man, well, 511 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: I'll cut Rivers automatic automatic cut rivers. I know he 512 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: broke Founce's record with the Chargers, but come on, Founces 513 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: found he's a pioneer and you know I love him. 514 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: This is tough. This is Sophie's choice right here. David 515 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: reference Uh, look if I seriously have to win a 516 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: football game, I'm gonna start Marino. But I love Fouts 517 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: so much. He's my favorite all time quarterback. I know, 518 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: I know. That's why I made this one hard, all right, 519 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm gonna stick to my I'm 520 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: gonna stick to my family here. I'm gonna start Founts 521 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna bench Marino. I'll cut Rivers. He's out 522 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: of there. Rivers is gone. I do likes a little bit, though. Yeah, okay, 523 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: all right, I might as well give you this one 524 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: like right off the bat. Might as well. I should. 525 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: I should have gotten this one first, but I kind 526 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: of wanted to set it up with something pretty easy. Okay, 527 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: we'll dive into something pretty hard. Start one bench one, 528 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: cut one Brock as Wilder, Dave were going Brandon wheedon, 529 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: Oh you're so all right. I'm gonna start Whedon. Okay, 530 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bench as Wilder and I'm gonna cut Ragond. 531 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: And I like David so much, you know, I like Dave. 532 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: We run into him all the time, and and look, 533 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: he's a terrific guy. Where did I hear him mentioned recently? 534 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: Maybe it was on the podcast that you recommended with 535 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: Sean mcfagh. But Ragonda, he's coaching, he's coaching. He was 536 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: with the Bears, he was, he's somewhere now he Mike. 537 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: Is he a coordinator now, Carolina? Wait? Wait, let's look 538 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: at this up because I need he's the offensive coordinator 539 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: with ye Falcons. With the Falcons, Okay, Arthur Smith. Dave 540 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: good for Dave Ragone working under Arthur Smith. That is 541 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: huge right there. And I don't know what the connection 542 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: is with Dave, who was in Chicago for a while. 543 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: They were, they were with each other because Arthur Smith 544 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: had been in Tennessee for a long time, a long time. 545 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: He was in Tennessee in the twenty thirteen season and 546 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith was also there. He was the Tennessee Times 547 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach in twenty thirteen, and so that's where he 548 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: That's where he met Arthur Smith. So David Gone is 549 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: now the offensive coordinator with the Atlanta Falcons. You know 550 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: another quarterback friend of mine, well, friend acquaintance of mine, 551 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: just got promoted as Ken Dorsey's now passing game coordinator 552 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: with the Bills. And he's been quarterbacks coach for a 553 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 1: while and was Cam Newtons quarterback coach when they were 554 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: going really good in Carolina. So good for Kenny. Okay, 555 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: he had that one pretty well. I'm although, we do 556 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: have to tell David going we see him that you 557 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: cut him. Yeah, but you know when you give him 558 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: the company, he'll say, Swiler, I couldn't beat out Oswylder. 559 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: But listen, Dave, we're gonna two starts for the Texans. 560 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: Oh and two? All right, Oswyler as quote bad as 561 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: it seemed, Oswalder still nine and seven record the team 562 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: playoff game. Starter won that game. I'm not gonna sit 563 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: here and say, look, they shouldn't have moved on from 564 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: Buck Oswylder, but you know he won a few games 565 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: here and that was just a weird year, Johnny that 566 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: We've had some weird years, that was one of them, 567 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: very much. So okay this one, oh boy, start one, 568 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: bench one cut one Okay, Derrick, Henry, Earl Campbell, Chris 569 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: two K Johnson, alright, villain running back actually not really, 570 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: kind of sort of. Earl Campbell's not a villain to me. 571 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,719 Speaker 1: He's not a villain, but he now wears a villain. 572 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: See that's what makes me mad, because I gotta think 573 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: about Earl in this way like, oh, he's up in 574 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: a Titans ring a fan. That's just such crap. You 575 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: could have got one. Oh yeah, I should put it 576 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: in George and thereby missing. Listen out there, Earl Campbell out, 577 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: Earl is Royalty almost. I mean he's football deity, okay, 578 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: Earl is Earl. So let's take him out. Put Eddie 579 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: George in there. And he's coaching what college team right now? 580 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:24,239 Speaker 1: Is it? Tennyson State? Okay? Good for him anyway? One 581 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: cut one, Derrick Henry, Eddie George, Chris Johnson look as 582 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: great as Eddie George's. I'm gonna start Derek Henry, okay. 583 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: And I know Chris Johnson did what he did, but 584 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: I don't know guys who he wasn't flashing the pan exactly. 585 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he ran, he was good, Johnny, and I'll 586 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 1: never forget him being uncovered. Oh oh my gosh on 587 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: the outside. I just didn't like that. Was that two 588 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: thousand and ten? I believe it was anyway that that 589 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: hurt a lot makes sense? It was ten, Yeah, maybe 590 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't. I don't anyway, Chris, uh, Chris Johnson, I know, 591 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: I'll go um, I'll start Derrick Henry because you know 592 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: how I feel about him. I think he's a phenominal 593 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: player and he makes all the difference for that football team. 594 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: I'll go Eddie George on the bench, and I'm gonna 595 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: cut Chris Johnson. Okay, start one bench one, cut one 596 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: Brian Cushing, but Nardrick McKinney, jam Bryan Cushing, Jamie Stanks. 597 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: I mean Jamie Sharper. I love Jamie Sharper. He was 598 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: really good for this football team. Look, you know I 599 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: feel about that early defense first couple of years. They 600 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: could have done some damage if they had the offense 601 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: to match. And you know what, if everything Charlie casually does. 602 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: That doesn't even have to be everything, but if a 603 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: lot of things that he wanted to do worked out, 604 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: they could have won a more games. They would have 605 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: won a lot more games, I don't think enough to 606 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. The Cults were too good, then the 607 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: Titans were too good. Then anyway, I'll go Cushing starting 608 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: b MAC on the bench, and I'm gonna have to 609 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: cut Sharper. Sorry, Jamie oh Man, but you know what, 610 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: you can make a case that Sharper should be ahead 611 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: of b MAC and Cushing is the all time leading 612 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: tackler in the history of the franchise. I might be 613 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: going recentcy here with with B Mac. And I loved 614 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: his truck too, with the big fifty five on it. 615 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: I just thought he was a great character. But so 616 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: was Sharper. I mean I did a thing with Sharper 617 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: early on in the West Club that was so much fun. 618 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: It was this quarterback club lunch thing, this organization that 619 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: came in from out of town and hired him. Oh man, 620 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna. I'm gonna cut B Mac. 621 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: I haven't turned into the paperwork yet. Sorry, back, I'm 622 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: cutting you. It's probably not listening right now. I'm gonna 623 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: and Jamie Sharper might be. So I'm gonna put Jamie 624 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: Sharper on the bench, and I'm gonna put Cushing in 625 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: the starting lineup. Okay, all right, bench one? Sorry, sorry, 626 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: start one, bench one, cut one, okay. Randy Moss, Jerry Rice, 627 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: Terrell Owens one of these. It's one of these Moss 628 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: Rice things. And you know what, a lot of this 629 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: depends on what kind of mood you're in and maybe 630 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: who the quarterback is. Yeah, Jerry Rice, so good. You 631 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: often wonder. You feel like Moss could make a lot 632 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: of teams good no matter what the situation is. You know, 633 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: would Jerry Rice be as great as he was if 634 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: he played in that Vikings offense, right, he'd make plays. 635 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the same thing. And when 636 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 1: you have arguments like this, when you have these kinds 637 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 1: of debates between all time greats, when you pick one, 638 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: it sometimes sounds like you're saying the other guy's stinks. 639 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: Of course, nobody's saying that Jerry Rice the best of 640 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: all time numbers wise, But Randy Moss, Johnny, Randy Moss 641 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: was sick the hands, the deep threat that he was. 642 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: You want to talk about game changing Randy Moss. The 643 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: footy nine ers with Jerry Rice were so balanced. You know, 644 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: they had everything going on. They ran the football well 645 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: in that West Coast scheme. They had a good offensive line, 646 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: they had other receivers, they had the tight ends. I'm 647 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: gonna go Randy Moss now, I'm gonna start him. Jerry 648 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: Rice on the bench, and I'm gonna cut to I 649 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: can't believe it. Tio's so good, but among those three, 650 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: you gotta put him third. Yeah, I think you're right. 651 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: I think you're right, although TiO is not gonna like 652 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: hearing that. Okay, this one is only one that Texas 653 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: fans could love. Okay, start one, bench one, cut one. 654 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: Steve McKinney, Chris Myers, Ben Jones, oh starters at center 655 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 1: for the Texans. Well look, and McKinney the first center 656 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: in Texans history. Now a franchise on of McDonald's So 657 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: really good player, by the way, started for Peton Bannings 658 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: Cults before he got here. Myers though pro bowler right, 659 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: and Myers took the heat. I mean, we literally had 660 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: a caller on Sports Radio six Tens Morning show who 661 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: dubbed himself Chris Myers sucks guy. Myers knew all about him, Hi, 662 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 1: Chris Meyers sucks guy here because Myers had that shaky 663 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: that's a polite way of putting it. Debut game, or 664 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: not debut, but a season premiere game in OH nine 665 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: against the Jets against Chris Jenkins, who ragged allD him 666 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: a few times because Myers was playing on a high 667 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 1: ankle sprain, and he did talk about it at the time, 668 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: but two years later or something, he revealed it. Myers 669 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 1: is a really good player and part of the greatest 670 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: offensive line and this franchise is history. I'm gonna start Myers, 671 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: McKinney is gonna go on the bench, and I'm gonna 672 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: cut Ben Jones. Even though I really like Ben Jones 673 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: and you could argue that they should have resigned Ben Jones, 674 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: he still starts for a playoff team. Now, you know, 675 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: it's funny with these guys. Everyone accused Rick Smith of 676 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: not drafting well and rounds three and four, Yet he 677 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: drafted Brandon Brooks and Ben Jones and these guys are 678 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 1: still playing in this league. I know Brandon got hurt 679 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: last year, but he's still a starter and a Pro 680 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: bowler at that. So to me, I think those are 681 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: good players, no doubt. They might not be All world 682 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: players every year, but they're good, solid NFL offensive line starters. 683 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: And I've still cut Ben Jones because I'll x Steve McKinney. Okay, 684 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,919 Speaker 1: last one. Yeah, see how you handle this one? Start one, bench, 685 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: one cut one. JJ Watt twenty twelve, JJ Watt twenty fourteen. 686 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: JJ Watt twenty fifteen. For those people that are going, 687 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: wait a second, when did he win Defense Player of 688 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: the Years those years twenty twelve, twenty fourteen, and twenty fifteen. 689 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: That's when JJ won those start one bench one, cut one? 690 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: What twelve? What fourteen? What you gotta start? Waf Fourteen 691 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: he had had all the touchdowns playing offense, scoring on defense, 692 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: the one we always talk about in the loss against 693 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: the Colts where he picked up the fumble, ran it 694 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: in the pick six against the Bills, the other tds 695 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: he had. I know the playoffs in fifteen didn't go 696 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: so well, but fourteen, that season, nine and seventeen. If 697 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: the team performance is not a factor, I'll start that season. Johnny. 698 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go with twelve maybe as my bench, 699 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna cut twenty fifteen, even though I 700 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: think in many ways, you know, and I have to 701 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: think about favorite Texans seasons, that's actually top three. The 702 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,720 Speaker 1: fact that you started two and five and won the division. 703 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: I'll just never forget that year that. You know, we 704 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: always talk about the Monday Night or at Cincinnati, the 705 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: first win at the Colts and all that. But what 706 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,439 Speaker 1: I think, am I right on this? Twenty twelve better 707 00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: than twenty fifteen? Maybe I think for a production stampoint, yes, 708 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: But in twenty fifteen, JJ was dealing with a team's 709 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: double triple team and doing all that kind of stuff. 710 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: And he was banged up throughout twenty fifteen and he 711 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: was still dominating fulls and they were number two taking 712 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: the league defensively. I mean, that was a phenomenal defensive year. 713 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 1: I mean when you win at game ten to six 714 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: on the road against an undefeated team on national television, 715 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: when you win a game sixteen to ten, that says 716 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: something as a unit. Yeah, no doubt I would pit. 717 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: I would start fourteen, bench fifteen, cut twelve only because 718 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: Richards on the sideline of twelve. So I didn't think 719 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: of that, Johnny. Sorry, that's the way that I think 720 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: on that standpoint. Mark, nice job. All Right, we get back. 721 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: We'll go around the league and the Texas Bowl named 722 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: their Gridiron Legends Class of twenty twenty one. We'll do 723 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 1: that next right here at Texas Alexis Exis Alexis, Exis Alexis. 724 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: So everybody, welcome back to this final segment, A short 725 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,919 Speaker 1: one hero on a Monday evening. Hope you all are well. 726 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris. I mentioned that Texas Ball 727 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: are good friends over at LSS named their twenty twenty 728 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: one Gridiron Legends Class, and I love going through things 729 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: like this, and you're gonna here some names on here, 730 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: and you're like, yo, how about you remember the name 731 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,959 Speaker 1: Dennis Gentry. I think kind of a flashback to Dana 732 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 1: went Dennis Gentry. Dennis Gentry. Oh Bears, Yeah, Baylor Bears 733 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: and then the Chicago Bears. Speaking of Bears and Bears, 734 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: how about Baylor All American, eight time NFL Pro and 735 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Mike Singletary. He is part of the 736 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one class. How about former Texan and I 737 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: think he should be a Hall of Fame punter Our 738 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: good friend from East Bernard Shane Leckler winning his coach 739 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: in a m history on four. Actually he's come down 740 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: sick and hopefully he's gonna fight and get himself back 741 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: to health. And that's RC Slocum. Emmett Thomas, five time 742 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: Pro bowler, four time All Pro, Hall of Famer. I 743 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: didn't realize he's from Angleton. That was really cool. Used 744 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: to play Angleton when I was in high school. I 745 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: didn't realize Emma Thomas is one of my favorite players. 746 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: I love the sixties Chiefs I don't know why. I 747 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: just do the sixties Chiefs just I don't know. There's 748 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: something about them that I really like. And Emma Thomas 749 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: is a big reason why. When number eighteen, he was 750 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: fantastic with the AFL and I was a big AFL fan. 751 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: And then he was a great coach. He was an 752 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: excellent coach coaching the secondary. After his playing career was up, 753 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: Jerry Ball, Beaumont native, went to west Brook. Why am 754 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: I Balmont Westbrook? And then what to SMU? Three time 755 00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: Pro bowler, This name you should recognize Universityston alumnus in 756 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 1: twenty eleven p f WA Assistant Coach of the Year 757 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: Wade Phillips goes in. Yes, two Longhorns, Texas High School 758 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer and Texas Longer Hall of Fame and 759 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: ductee Steve Worcester, who played fullback for the University of 760 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: Texas teams in nineteen sixties and nineteen sixty nine they 761 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: won a national championship. The next time the University of 762 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 1: Texas win a national championship, their quarterback was some guy 763 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: named Vince Young. Have you heard of him? Well, I 764 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: hope you have, because he is also in the class 765 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one. And then a name I know, 766 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: my buddy, Dirty Red Clint Stirner is gonna love seeing 767 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: the patriarch of seven out seven football, co creator the 768 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: Bayou Ball from over there in Baytown dick Oland, longtime 769 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: coaching career over there in Baytown dick Oland. Also administrator 770 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: over the Fourpen District who my parents both No Ki 771 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: Kilgore gets in as well. So this twenty twenty one 772 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: class very very cool, and congratulations all the legends. Now 773 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: for the Texas Bowl, A big thanks to Mark, thanks 774 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: to Joanna, all of you for listening. Congratulations to all 775 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: the legends. We'll see tomorrow everybody. It has always go 776 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: Texans