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Speaker 1: The game just ended? Philadelphia holds on to beat the

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Speaker 1: Bills thirteen to twelve. I like the idea, as John

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff joins me, former NFL scout, I like the idea

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Speaker 1: going for it for two. I think when you're the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you go for it, especially because win

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Speaker 2: could also argue, you know, the Eagles, they had nine

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the Eagles had four defensive players make

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I missed with you. One note I had at

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Speaker 1: All Right, Cleveland, their biggest win in a long time

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Speaker 1: What a mess this is. It was so classic Tomlin.

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Speaker 2: you know, in a crappy It wasn't great weather, you know,

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Speaker 2: just ugly up the game. It was low scoring anyway,

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Speaker 2: It felt like they thought they were down twenty five

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Speaker 2: to six instead of guys, you're just down one score here.

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Speaker 2: This Cleveland's doing nothing on offense. Just what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Especially with their identity and who knows, maybe it's Aaron

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Speaker 2: checking do these calls at the line of scrimmage. But

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Speaker 2: you know, when you they've been so dependent on these

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Speaker 2: three tight ends, right, that's been their thing. Well the

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Speaker 2: Rams do it two three tens. The Rams also have

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Speaker 2: Puka Naku and Davante Adams. You know, so it's it's

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Speaker 2: a little even if only one of them is on

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Speaker 2: the field, those guys route and make dominant plays.

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Speaker 1: And they also Kyra and Williams, Blake Korham, especially in

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Speaker 1: the second half Blake Corum. They run the ball consistently.

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Speaker 1: The Rams consistently run the ball.

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Speaker 2: And I also think the reality is most people don't

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Speaker 2: go out like John l Way on the day is

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Speaker 2: getting the Super Bowl Trophy. Most people go out legendary

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Speaker 2: players Michael Is on the Wizards. I wasn't alive, but

446
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Speaker 2: I heard Willie Mays played for the Mets. You know,

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Speaker 2: this situation isn't as ugly as like Michael Jordan on

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Speaker 2: the Wizards, but if they lose next week, pretty embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: And I do think Aaron Rodgers' career probably ends, even

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Speaker 2: though like he's not it's not a key, he's not

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Speaker 2: an NFL player, But it's like he's gonna come back

452
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Speaker 2: for what in this situation, because I think Pittsburgh is

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Speaker 2: gonna have to seriously answer ask themselves the question which

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Speaker 2: they already kind of put out through Schefter a month ago.

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Speaker 2: Like Tomin's contract situation. We're not gonna fire him, but

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Speaker 2: hell will be open John fifty now than Wayne Colin.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he can go to the Giants. It's not

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Speaker 2: like he's gonna be out to work. But this thing's

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Speaker 2: run its course, hasn't it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Cam Hayward's old. TJ Watt, DK Metcalf's an

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Speaker 1: older player, Aaron Rodgers, Jalen Ramsey, they're old. Like it's

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Speaker 1: I mean to me, you start looking at the teams

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Speaker 1: that I really like in this league, and there they've

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Speaker 1: got a great mix of young and experience. Like Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: has got good veterans, they have great young players, Rams

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Speaker 1: have great young players. I mean, you know Detroit for

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Speaker 1: all their struggles, Green Bay great young players. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 2: It's it's the forty nine Ers did it last year

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Speaker 2: when they hit a ject, like they let everyone walk

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Speaker 2: because they said, we have to pivot yep, even if

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Speaker 2: we take a lot bit step back for the next

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Speaker 2: five years. And the Steelers they're just kind of beholden

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Speaker 2: died like every game every year and it's like, you

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Speaker 2: don't get credit anymore for going nine to eight, and okay,

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Speaker 2: you have a much better record some team that won

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Speaker 2: five games. Who cares? You know, it doesn't matter at.

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Speaker 1: This point, Yeah, they're not going to fire him, and

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Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. All right, Seattle twenty seven

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Speaker 1: and blazing fun. I've officially went over three. I don't

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Speaker 1: know why the hell I do it. This felt like

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Speaker 1: a classic case. It was three to three and a half,

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Speaker 1: but Seattle's talent in the second half overwhelmed Carolina. Carolina

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Speaker 1: was one for eleven on third down, two and a

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Speaker 1: half yards of play. Bryce Young had a couple of

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Speaker 1: a couple interesting drives. You know the funny thing about

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, I always said his camp, he was a

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Speaker 1: less talented Andrew Luck. He and Luck have one thing

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Speaker 1: in common, very short memory. Sam does not care if

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Speaker 1: he turns the ball over. He doesn't care, and you

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Speaker 1: know that helped him today. He didn't have a great game.

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Speaker 1: A friend of mine who's a Seahawks fan, we talked today.

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Speaker 1: We hadn't reached out to each other in a while,

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Speaker 1: and he said, you know my concern about Seattle. They

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Speaker 1: don't do anything great. And I said, well, they also

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Speaker 1: don't have a hole. The Rams special teams are a mess.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia's offense dies, Houston Texans can't move the ball consistently.

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Speaker 1: The charger zone lines a disaster, I said, or there's

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Speaker 1: a bad coordinator situation. I said. The Seahawks don't do

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Speaker 1: anything brilliantly, but they do everything up to snuff. They

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Speaker 1: don't really have a hole. And when I watched them

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Speaker 1: today as a prime example, you know, they traveled across country,

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Speaker 1: they played a lot of snaps. In that Ram game,

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Speaker 1: defense was on the field like ninety snaps. They weren't real,

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Speaker 1: you know, they weren't totally polished offensively. And then you

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Speaker 1: look up and it's like to go on the road

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Speaker 1: against the team that's going to probably win their division

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Speaker 1: and you beat them by seventeen points. It's like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just kind of look at Seattle

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm not so sure. This isn't outside

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Speaker 1: of Philadelphia, the best roster in the league. They got

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Speaker 1: a lot of dams that can run.

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Speaker 2: I think if they played this game ten times, Seattle's

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Speaker 2: winning nine of them. I thought the talent gap as

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Speaker 2: this game went on was pretty dramatic. I'm with de

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Speaker 2: Brice makes good individual plays. Then you look at the

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Speaker 2: box score. You have fourteen completions. He threw fifty four yards,

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Speaker 2: you know. And I saw McMillan, the wide receiver from Arizona, saying,

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Speaker 2: you know, they ran a lot of man coverage. We

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Speaker 2: didn't expect that to come. And that's one huge advantage

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Speaker 2: they have as they're head coach is a defensive genius.

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Speaker 2: You know, for Vey and Kyle, that's him on defense,

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Speaker 2: and he has these chess pieces, the different dbats they

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Speaker 2: can play multiple positions. Their pass rush is really good.

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Speaker 2: They also I think they control their own destiny. So

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Speaker 2: if they win next week, they're going to be the

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Speaker 2: number one seed. But I think they've lost two games

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Speaker 2: in Mike McDonald's career on the road. I mean they

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Speaker 2: are I think after this game they're fourteen and two

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Speaker 2: on the I mean they are a dominant road team

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Speaker 2: under McDonald. So and in that game once they showed

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Speaker 2: like the overhead kind of good year view. It's like

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Speaker 2: ugly and Rainyu's like this is right in Seattle's wheelhouse,

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Speaker 2: you know, and listen obviously Caroline and Tampa. I mean,

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Speaker 2: these are two bad teams, must be real. Neither of

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Speaker 2: them probably deserve to make the playoffs, but one gets

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Speaker 2: to go. I thought Seattle was just in a different class.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. Donald can have an individual play where

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Speaker 2: he just looks like just I mean a practice squad

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Speaker 2: level guy, but they don't come right back. I didn't

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Speaker 2: even think about it that way, But that's you know

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Speaker 2: that go old fish as a memory, you know, you

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Speaker 2: just on the next thing. It's like it didn't even

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Speaker 2: phase him, and you have to wonder if he's been

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Speaker 2: through a lot you know this. You know, maybe early

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Speaker 2: on his career with the Jets, he starts dwelling on

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Speaker 2: stuff the longer and you realize you can't like that.

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Speaker 1: Back to back thirteen win seasons. I think it is

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Speaker 1: now and by the way, Pro Bowls, two different teams,

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Speaker 1: like Donald's now entering conversation and the record books. Some

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Speaker 1: of the guys that have done this are like Peyton Manning,

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Speaker 1: you know, like Colts, he won bunch of games and

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Speaker 1: then he goes to Denver. Like Donald's, talent's indisputable. He's

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Speaker 1: he is Andrew Lucked. I don't think he's as gifted,

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Speaker 1: but he is Andrew Luck and that he can be

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Speaker 1: a bit reckless. He's hyper aggressive, but I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what he he gets flushed out of the pocket and

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Speaker 1: he's not running to run, he's running to throw. He

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Speaker 1: is his eyes are down field and he and JSN.

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Speaker 1: I was telling a friend today, I said, I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to be a Seahawk Homer, but if I said

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Speaker 1: to you, quarterback receiver combination like Jim R. Chase Burrow

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Speaker 1: is just unbelievable. But you can't put aj Brown and

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Speaker 1: Hurts in there. But you start looking around the league.

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Speaker 1: You're like, Darnald and JSN first year together is really strong.

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Speaker 1: Like really these corner routes, the timing routes, You're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: like this is really elite stuff.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think they have good personnel. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I like, you know, Charpa Day's a good He's a

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Speaker 2: number two running back. I've always liked him. You know,

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Speaker 2: they trade for Shaheed. He only had the one catch today,

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Speaker 2: but he gives them a speed element that they haven't had.

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Speaker 2: You know, Cooper Cup, I think you had a bad

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Speaker 2: fumble today, but actually I think they overturned it. But

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Speaker 2: you know, he gives them a veteran They have a

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Speaker 2: just a high level team, like a really smart bunch

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Speaker 2: of guys, a lot of guys with a lot of

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Speaker 2: winning in their background. You know. So Sam comes to

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Speaker 2: this operation with Mike and John Schneider. It's really impressive.

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Speaker 2: I thought the betting odds coming into the season, they

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Speaker 2: were five to one to win the division and the

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Speaker 2: Rams and the forty nine ers were heavy favorites. I

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Speaker 2: thought that was a little I mean, this was a

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Speaker 2: team that won ten games last year, so this is

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Speaker 2: not to me. The Jags who went from four wins

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Speaker 2: to twelve wins. It's it's pretty remarkable. When you watch

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Speaker 2: the Jags, You're like, they just look good, like they

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Speaker 2: look like a high level operation Seattle. Even those weird

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Speaker 2: Peat teams that kind of got them fired, they weren't

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Speaker 2: winning four or five games. Remember that they were nine

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Speaker 2: and seven or nine and eight, they were ten and seven.

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Speaker 2: They were just getting blown out in the first round

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Speaker 2: of the playoffs. But they have, They've always had really

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Speaker 2: good players. They've done an excellent job transitioning to multiple

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Speaker 2: you know, the lob teams and then kind of that

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Speaker 2: latter years of Russell Wilson and now the last couple

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Speaker 2: of years of this version of young guys. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 2: I think they have one of, if not the best

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Speaker 2: general manager in the league. So that helps a lot too.

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Speaker 1: the Jets forty two to ten. They've now won eighteen

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Speaker 1: of twenty one matchups. They were on a fifteenth straight.

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Speaker 1: Until January of twenty four, New England had beaten them

639
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: fifteen straight times. I'm watching Vrabel and Drake May today

640
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: with Aaron Glenn who may not be long for the place,

641
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: and they have no idea what they're doing. The Raiders

642
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: lost today, So the Raiders will get Fernando Mendoz as

643
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: the number one pick, and if Dante mor doesn't come out,

644
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders are probably you know, they may

645
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: go by like Malik Willis is a free agent. I mean,

646
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what you do. Malik Willis has been unbelievable.

647
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: Looks good, It looks good.

648
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean I think if you're the

649
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: Jets and Dante Mort doesn't come out, it's I would

650
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: probably go with that kid. But he's gone from you know,

651
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: Turmoil and Tennessee to Green Bay now to the Jets.

652
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: You're like, who knows how it turns out, but I

653
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: will tell you this. It was thirty five to three

654
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: at half is craft Vrabel, Josh McDaniels, Drake May, John.

655
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: I think we're I think people are under selling them.

656
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: We went into this season with New England and I

657
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: think you and I agreed, they're just not going to

658
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: enough on the sidelines. They just don't have enough players.

659
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: This wide receiving group now is a big play wide

660
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: receiving group like they've got. I mean Diggs and Williams

661
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: and Booty. It's like, no, they have big play wide receivers.

662
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: I look at New England right now. I think Jacksonville

663
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: beats them. I think Jacksonville's better. I think Denver probably

664
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: beats them. I'd take them over Buffalo. People think I'm crazy.

665
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: I think we're sleeping on New England. I think I

666
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: think they coach coordinator quarterback. I don't know. I to

667
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: lead thirty five to three over an NFL team you're

668
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: on the road, I don't care how bad the team is. Jesus,

669
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: that's impressive.

670
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean you didn't even mention Henderson, who at

671
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: any moment can take one fifty or sixty yards. Right.

672
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: So they're passing game and they got this running back

673
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: who's got to be one of the faster guys in

674
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: the league. I do think Rabel is elite as kind

675
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: of he's like the new prime version of Tomlin, chip

676
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 2: on his shoulder, underdog, and they played it all season long. Today,

677
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: I mean Drake May's had harder games in junior high

678
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: school than what he faced today. But I do think

679
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,479
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, a lot of people are going to

680
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: be picking them, so there's gonna be a lot of

681
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: pressure then to me on on Mike to like, you know,

682
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: kind of the chip on his shoulder. The underdog, underdog

683
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: mentality that they've had this year has been really impressive

684
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: to watch. I think they're going to be a pretty

685
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: big favorite, you know, potentially, Like a lot of people

686
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: are gonna say this team can win the AFC, because

687
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: they can. But we saw Drake a couple of weeks

688
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: ago getting that spot against the Bills didn't have a

689
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: great last couple drives. That's the thing with the AFC,

690
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: It's like do I trust? Like, it wouldn't shock me

691
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: if Drake May has a bad playoff game. Peyton Manning

692
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 2: used to have him youngest Trevor Lawrence, Like, I mean,

693
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: how many playoff games that guy played in his career?

694
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: You just you don't know. But for both those two guys,

695
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: if they're on, they can dominate. Especially I mean Drake

696
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: when he's on, he throws, he's beautiful. He's got the

697
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: new Russell Wilson the deep ball is as good as

698
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: it gets in the NFL, and he's just the dual

699
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: threat nature of his ability to keep plays alive with

700
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: his legs. You know, Josh McDaniels deserves credit because you

701
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: know he kind of falling off the raider situation. But

702
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 2: you come back and you do this with because everyone

703
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: bought into the physical attributes. It's It's why Ben Johnson

704
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: gets a lot of credits like, okay, now make them

705
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: into a good football player, right, And he's made Drake May,

706
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 2: I mean into a legitimate I don't know who's gonna

707
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: I guess Stafford's probably gonna end up winning it, but

708
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: I mean, Drake May was in the MVP conversation the

709
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: majority of the year. That's there's a reason you know,

710
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels is in Vic Fangio's this. They are Taylor

711
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 2: made to just be incredible number twos and be the

712
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: best in their field when all they have to focus

713
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: on the offense and all they have to focus in

714
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: on that unit of the players. They clearly, you know,

715
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: communicate perfectly with those guys. Maybe they struggle with the

716
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 2: opposite side of the ball because the mentality is different.

717
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: You know, for Vic, the offensive guys don't think like

718
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: defensive guys. For Josh, defensive guys don't operate cerebral like

719
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 2: offensive guys. And those guys, I think, both those two guys,

720
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: I mean, look look what they will. Look what Vix

721
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: meant to the Eagles. Look what Josh. I mean, the

722
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: hire has meant for Mike because part of the reason

723
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: Mike got ran out of Tennessee his offense kind of

724
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 2: fell apart when he lost to Arthur Smith.

725
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I just think it's one of those things

726
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: that I think psychologically we all think, Okay, this is

727
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: just year one of the rebuild, and it's like, no,

728
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: this is Ben Johnson's first year in Chicago. When you

729
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: can spend two hundred million dollars in Chicago and you

730
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: go get Joe Tooney, Drew Dolman, and Jonah Jackson on

731
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: that with our right tackle, who's pro Bowl level guy.

732
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: Now we have an Alito line, bad old line to elite.

733
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: Then the quarterback we upgrade. So then you take this

734
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: quarterback like Chicago upgrade and you go by two hundred

735
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: and seventy five million, and you solve your perimeter issue

736
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: and it feels like new England's receiving course getting better,

737
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: like as Drake may like it was. It was okay

738
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: for six weeks. Now you're like, oh, it's pretty good now.

739
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh god, yeah, they can play from behind.

740
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: I like them a lot.

741
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: I will say this, the the three wild cards, the Chargers,

742
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: Houston and the Bills and whatever order. So you're gonna

743
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 2: play one of those. I mean you're talking Tomiko Ryans,

744
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh and McDermott and Josh Allen. These guys have

745
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: had a lot of success. I mean, all of a sudden,

746
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: you just draw as the seventh seed again, We'll have

747
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: to see who plays who next week. I would imagine

748
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: the Chargers Justin Herbert doesn't play next week, right because

749
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: that game doesn't even matter anymore against Denver. So all

750
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 2: of a sudden, what if you get them and you're

751
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: getting Jim harbaughd Justin Herbert in just sixty minute game

752
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 2: to go to that, that's just a tough draw, you know.

753
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: And same thing even if you know, if they give

754
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: Josh the week off next week he gets to rest

755
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: his ankle. You get Josh for the third time, and

756
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: that's that's hard. He's he's very comfortable coming into your building.

757
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 2: Even if their team is not as good. We don't

758
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: like them as much to go on a huge run,

759
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: they are comfortable playing you. So's it's those three eight

760
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: and obviously the Texans, I mean I would not want

761
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: to play the Texans in a wildcard game. So these

762
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: are just tough the high level operations. You know, the

763
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: Bills have just won a lot of playoff games over

764
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: the last five years. And obviously Harbon Demiko, I think

765
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: you and I would if they were stocks, would both

766
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: own a lot of it. So it's you know, the

767
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,959
Speaker 2: Patriots are going to get tested immediately as the two seed,

768
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: which is sometimes you know, whoever draws the Packers as

769
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: a seven seed, like they're leaking a lot of will.

770
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: They got a lot of injuries, they got a lot

771
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 2: of issues. They they're just they're falling apart. That's that's

772
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: not going to be the case with whoever you potentially

773
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: draw as the two seed. You know, in the in

774
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: the AFC Wildcard.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about two Saturday night games because

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00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: they matter. Baltimore forty one at green Bay two four.

782
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: Malik Willis is going to make a lot of money

783
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: in free agency. He went from chaotic Tennessee to green Bay.

784
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: The Green Bay environment has clearly helped him. Kid was

785
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty one. I thought he was He's the

786
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: best backup in the league. I mean, he is absolutely

787
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: the best backup in the league. He's obviously coachable. He

788
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: is really good on third down. I mean they averaged

789
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: eight and a half yards of play and lost like

790
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: they just made big plays. Never. In fact, the story

791
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: of the game is Baltimore. I had thirty first outs,

792
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: like forty minutes of time of possession, but when he

793
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: got the ball, he was exceptional. So my take is

794
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry obviously had a monster game and he has

795
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: those I like Baltimore to beat Pittsburgh, and I even

796
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: like him to beat Pittsburgh with again, A Hontley is

797
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: a very good high end backup. Remember he beat Chicago

798
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: earlier this year. Everybody remember that game. I remember I

799
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: had Baltimore. Lamar's called out and I stayed with my bat.

800
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: I just just Baltimore at home, and he just outplayed Caleb.

801
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: You're like, he's a good backup Baltimore. I don't know

802
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: Chicago clinch the NFC North, would the Green Bay win?

803
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: I think Baltimore. I think they beat Pittsburgh.

804
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: The one thing I would say is Pittsburgh and Baltimore

805
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: have some similarities. When you watch him on the right

806
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: night and Pittsburgh's done this over the last month ago,

807
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: that's a really good team. And then you watch him

808
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: on the wrong day, like today with the Steelers're like,

809
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: I'm out that team that looks like a five win team.

810
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: I mean Baltimore last night when they're handing it to him,

811
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: I mean, he looks like Secretariat running. It's like this

812
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: guy's an unstoppable force. The previous week against the Patriots,

813
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: he wasn't even on the field in the fourth quarter,

814
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: and John Harball was like, eh RDA screwed that one up.

815
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah you might have. John. You could argue that that game,

816
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: like there was just a lot of heat on these

817
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: two coaches, just because they're both in high level organizations.

818
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: You have to wonder whoever loses this game between John

819
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: and Mike could get pretty weird that first weekend, you know,

820
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 2: in January, the talks surrounding those guys because these organizations,

821
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Speaker 2: I mean, the the Ravens were two years ago the

822
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: number one seed in a favorite to beat the Chiefs

823
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Speaker 2: in the AFC Championship game in their own building, and

824
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: now two years later they have a winner get in

825
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: game against the Steelers on the road, which my guess

826
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 2: would be they'd be favored. I mean, want to see

827
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Speaker 2: how that plays. I guess I would imagine Lamar plays.

828
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I I just think that game

829
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Speaker 2: it reminded me a little bit of the previous week

830
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: with Philip Rivers. You know, if you watch a game

831
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Speaker 2: like Philip Rivers play great against the Niners, but his

832
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: defense was atrocious, Like Malik Willis. The two best players

833
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: on the field were Malik Willison and Derrick Henry. Yeah

834
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: by a mile, but Malik Willis can't play linebacker pass rusher.

835
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Speaker 2: So I mean they're just getting shredded. There's nothing because

836
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: he came on the field and this is bang bang boom, touchdown,

837
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: bang bang boom, they're in the red zone for a

838
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: field goal. So yeah, I was. I was blown away.

839
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Speaker 2: Malik Willis is who I think social media told as

840
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: Justin Fields was Yeah. Yeah, that's that's what I think

841
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 2: people that thought Justin Fields was good. That's what Malik

842
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: Willis actually looks like. Running the touch over the middle

843
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 2: of the field, the deep ball, accuracy, the composure, the toughness.

844
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 2: If Justin Fields can get two year, forty million dollars,

845
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: I'd be stunned if Malik Willis can't get, you know,

846
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 2: a little inflation previously two years fifty million dollars. Someone

847
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: gives them like thirty million dollars guaranteed for the offseason.

848
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: I think Malik Willis and Mac Jones, I think people

849
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Speaker 1: are going to come after both, and I think I

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Speaker 1: would go with Malik Willis. I just think he's such

851
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: a natural athlete. But he I'm watching that game and

852
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, this kid. Plus he had nine carries. You'll forget. Yeah.

853
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 2: You could argue that Packers are better off because their

854
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 2: defense is so banged up now and their running game

855
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: is in shambles. I can't. Malik Willis gives them a

856
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: running element that Jordan Love just doesn't give them like

857
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 2: at least he can run the ball, like he gives

858
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 2: them a better chance to win a game, because if

859
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 2: you can't, if Jordan Love's not throwing for three hundred yards,

860
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: they're not running it on anybody. They're in major trip.

861
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: They could get rolled in the first round. You know,

862
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: they played the depending on who their matchup is.

863
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: Okay, Houston beats the Chargers twenty to sixteen. This was

864
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: my favorite bet of the weekend. Almost a forty percent

865
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: pressure rate on Herbert, who also had multiple drops. His

866
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: tight end dropped a couple of balls. Here's my takeaway.

867
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: So when Nick Cassario was the you know GM in

868
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: New England, they could not draft a wide receiver to

869
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: save their life. For Brady, I always go back to

870
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: that Brady moment where he's screaming on the sidelines his

871
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: last year in New England, can you just get open?

872
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: They could not draft a wide receiver. Nikhil Harry was

873
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: a bus Chad Jackson from Florida was a bus. They

874
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: had to go, you know, buy Wes Welker or get

875
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: Randy Moss. So Nick Cassario's in New England got that guy.

876
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: Didn't know how to draft receivers. He now goes to

877
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: Houston and clearly proving that Belichick had his thumb on him,

878
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: he got Tank Bell. He goes and gets two guys

879
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: out of Iowas State, Jalen Noel and Jayden Higgins, both like,

880
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: you know, really talented guys. And I'm sitting there watching

881
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: Houston and John. Let's not forget what an absolute league

882
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: embarrassment they were before Demico Ryan, c J. Stroud and

883
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: Casario got there, Like we questioned whether those guys should

884
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: take the job. We're like, I remember saying that Casario,

885
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: is this a career ender? This was considered three four

886
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: years ago, like the laughing stock of the league. I

887
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: think they've got and I think Casario. Go look at

888
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: his drafting record, Go look at Demiko Ryan's defense. C J. Stroud,

889
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna argue all day long. C J. Sarleto is

890
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: one of the prettiest balls in the league. Those first

891
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: couple of throws, you know, to Iowa State guys like

892
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: young kids. I'm like, man, this is this is beautiful stuff.

893
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: But I don't really put that on Herbert, not because

894
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: I love him, but I've seen this two or three times.

895
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: This year. I saw it when the charge what the

896
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: Jacksonville They just have trouble blocking people. If they face

897
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: an elite rush, they they just discombobulate offensively. There's only

898
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: so much they can do.

899
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: Texans are a terrible matchup for him, I mean absolutely terrible.

900
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: Rible when they're two tackles gone. I'm with you on Casirio.

901
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: Think about this offseason. You know, the NFL doesn't have

902
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 2: too many of like the NBA, where the guy's so famous.

903
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: It just feels like you're an idiot if you get

904
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: rid of them. Even though the guy like the team

905
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: couldn't wait to get rid of him. I don't think

906
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: the Texans were thrilled. You know, Laramie Tunzel was a

907
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: good left tackle, but they were never gonna pay him

908
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: again and they just were ready to move on. And

909
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: when they made that trade, everyone went. The Houston Texans.

910
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 2: Their offensive line you can't get. Well, they're cruising to

911
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: the playoffs. I don't know if you've checked on the

912
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: Commanders lately, but they're not making the playoffs. Oh yeah,

913
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: and the Texans this upcoming draft are gonna have their

914
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: second round pick, which might be like pick thirty eight,

915
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 2: So they part of the reason the last two years

916
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: they traded up because remember they drafted CJ. Shroud and

917
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: they rated right up to get Will Anderson. And if

918
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 2: you're gonna make a move like that, you better get

919
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: it right. And they got it right. So now they

920
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: got two franchise players who are super high character guys,

921
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: team captain level guys, and they got reinforcements now coming

922
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: with draft picks, which they haven't had because they made

923
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 2: that move. But like you said, they nailed some picks,

924
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: and their young offensive coordinator that they hired I think

925
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: from the Rams via New England has kind of figured

926
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: it out, like they I was late to the game yesterday.

927
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: I came in. We were at lunch and I was like,

928
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: let's watch the first half at this bar. I walk in.

929
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: It's fourteen to nothing and there's ten minutes left in

930
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: the first quarter, Like, what the hell happened? Immediately go online.

931
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 2: I mean, they hit just two bombs. If they can

932
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 2: add that element to their offense over the course of

933
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 2: the next couple of years, they are because Demiko he

934
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 2: is he is such a good coach. I mean he

935
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: was He's like a Vrabel or Hardball, one of those

936
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: players that was just destined to be a star at

937
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 2: this job. And how about this comment. They started owing

938
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: three and it did not look pretty, And there were

939
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: points and times in the middle of the year. I

940
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 2: got it, and they are they're gonna end up with

941
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: twelve wins. I mean, they're probably. They look back and

942
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Speaker 2: they go, if we can just have one of those

943
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: games back. I mean, we're right there with Jacksonville, who's

944
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: kind of been like the story of the league, right

945
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: there with the Bear. So it's what the Texans have done.

946
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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I loved him in that game just

947
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Speaker 2: because the matchup, but just over the course of the

948
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949
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Speaker 2: pretty remarkable.

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Speaker 1: Go back to the Texans game against the Rams. It's

951
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: like fourteen to nine. It's the one time this year

952
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: the Rams just got stonewalled. Like this defense is it

953
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: is big boy football? You know. I was thinking about this.

954
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Speaker 2: Do you think they could win this?

955
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Speaker 1: Like?

956
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 2: Could they? I think they could win the AFC.

957
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Speaker 1: Oh I've said this. I said it a month ago.

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Speaker 1: I said, I if you look at this is the

959
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: year that I think I think the Texans. I want

960
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,200
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961
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Speaker 1: up in the AFC Championship. Yeah, I don't know who

962
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,200
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963
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: England's undervalued and Houston's undervalued, but Jacksonville's really good. But

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Speaker 1: I could see Jacksonville going in as a favorite. I

965
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966
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:12,920
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967
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if you go look at the Texans road defense,

968
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969
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970
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00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,200
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1011
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,920
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1012
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: these services. To watch week seventeen in the NFL, you

1013
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:40,440
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1014
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,400
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1015
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,239
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Speaker 1: because I don't talk about it. If I if I

1018
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,000
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1019
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 1: buy it. I don't buy it for the NBA because

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00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 1: I have ESPN, and I already have Amazon. Everybody's got Netflix,

1021
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,759
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1022
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:04,719
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1023
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,799
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1025
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,040
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1027
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,760
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1028
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: that don't get to write this stuff off due. But

1029
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1030
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 1: extending games, you know, Netflix is a monster, it doesn't matter,

1031
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,439
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1032
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,479
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1033
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: entire business. But Peacock's going to lose a billion dollars

1034
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:47,640
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1035
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Speaker 1: And I was thinking about this, as you extend the season,

1036
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1037
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Speaker 1: these these streamers, like when Fox broadcasts a game, John,

1039
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,120
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1040
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,960
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1041
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,400
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1042
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1043
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1044
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:21,720
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1045
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 2: Peacock's been a stalwart in the middle cooff home because

1046
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Speaker 2: my wife watches a show called Below Deck where these

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1048
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1049
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: loyal subscriber of that one for a long time. I

1050
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: do wonder, right, NBC is a good example, right, they

1051
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: have Sunday Night Football is the number one television show

1052
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: in America, right in Fox and CBS the afternoon games

1053
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1054
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1057
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 2: under fifty that even knows what regular television even means anymore, right,

1058
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: especially anyone under like thirty, like your son would You're

1059
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 2: not going to ABC to watch a show. So for

1060
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 2: NBC to survive over the course of the next twenty years,

1061
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 2: they need Peacock to I guess be successful. But I'm

1062
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 2: with you. I thought the NBA deal, what do you

1063
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: think the actual numbers on some of these games? That

1064
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: I'm a casual at this point in time because I

1065
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: spent so much time talking football, I've never like you.

1066
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: I don't do like a you know, you talk way more,

1067
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 2: but I don't talk basketball anymore. So I'm not as

1068
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 2: dialed in beside like the Warriors. And sometime I'll be

1069
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: We'll be logging onto Peacock or Amazon Prime and I'll

1070
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 2: see they have an NBA game on. I'm like, who's watching?

1071
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: Unless you're like some diehard Zach Low type. I don't

1072
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 2: think the casual guy that would have stumbled into it

1073
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 2: on TNT. Well, an NFL is a little different because

1074
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 2: it's a one off situation. But yeah, I'm with you,

1075
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 2: this is not We're in a slippery slope with the

1076
00:52:58,719 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 2: situation for sure.

1077
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: Well, the other thing is the incumbent ESBN for me

1078
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: as a built in audience. Okay, and then Amazon, like Netflix,

1079
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: I have those for obvious reasons. You got to have

1080
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: those two an Amazon beat Peacock to the punch of

1081
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: the NFL for years ago, right, So like, I'm I

1082
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: have that. Peacock's like, well, I don't need that much

1083
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: NBA and you're not getting playoffs. I don't believe Peacock

1084
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: has a great playoff. They don't get the finals, they

1085
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 1: don't get they I don't know what they get playoffs wise,

1086
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: if I recall, it's not great, and who wants to watch?

1087
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: I mean, the Western Conference playoffs will be you know,

1088
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: dynamic if you get those. Maybe, But it's just I

1089
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 1: looked at it and I thought to myself, Man, you're

1090
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: asking a lot of the consumer to go to a

1091
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: third streamer. You're asking a lot of the consumer and

1092
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: I and increasingly as these we're averaging sixty quarterbacks a year.

1093
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: So you if you're just parachuting in and you think, hey,

1094
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: we get the December twenty sixth game every year, good

1095
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: luck you watch these games. Good luck getting starting to

1096
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: either teams will have their division sealed, you know a

1097
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: lot of seedings are done, or you're getting a backup quarterback.

1098
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: I want to throw this out there, talking NFL, the

1099
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: Raiders got clobbered by the Giants, so it was a

1100
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: corner TV game for me. You know, Jackson Dark played

1101
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 1: pretty well. The Giants played with a lot of pride.

1102
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: Giants actually have some good Yeah, they have some good players.

1103
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: So the Giants hammered the Raiders. So the Raiders are

1104
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: going to get the number one pick, so they'll get Mendoza.

1105
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: They have Rock Bowers, they have Aston Genty Colton middle

1106
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: left tackle. Oh, line's bad. They have to address that.

1107
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 1: The Giants now have the second pick, and I if

1108
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: you're the Giants, now you were rooting like crazy that

1109
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: Dante Moore comes out, not to draft him, because I

1110
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: don't think I would draft Dante Moore. So you can

1111
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: trade down. So the New York Giants really want to

1112
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: day Moore to go pro. I don't think any other

1113
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: quarterback rises to that level. But when you look at

1114
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: the Raiders, let me ask you the question, they're gonna

1115
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: get Fernando Mendoza. We have now seen multiple times old

1116
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: defensive coaches, you Belichick, you know, Ron Revere, old defensive

1117
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: coaches with young quarterbacks, even younger defensive coaches Matt Eberflus

1118
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: with Caleb Williams if you're if you're the Raiders, do

1119
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: you bring back Pete Carroll, Pete Carroll's son and the

1120
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: staff and go with Fernando Mendoz Or do you just

1121
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: say to yourself, Okay, we're going to go find are

1122
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: Liam Cohen. We're going to go find. We're going to

1123
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: go find. We're not going to mess around and do

1124
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: like the Bears did with eber Flues for a year,

1125
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: a defensive guy and a staff that Chip Kelly's gone

1126
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: now and now there's a lot of you know, there

1127
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: was criticism up in Seattle about Pete Son. I got

1128
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: nothing against Petez Son, never met him. What do you

1129
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 1: do with you the Raiders? You take Mendoza? Do you

1130
00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: clean house? Do you stay with his.

1131
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: Staf Well, a couple of things. I think Pete's done.

1132
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: I think everyone I know in the NFL assumes that

1133
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 2: he is going to get fired. Every article I've read

1134
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: points that he's in major trouble. And let's face, I

1135
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: think look at him and Belichick that they just refuse

1136
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: to wave the white flag. I mean, they had more

1137
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 2: than they had nine figures in the bank. They didn't

1138
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 2: need to keep doing this, but they just couldn't tap

1139
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 2: out right. These guys were in their mid seventies. They

1140
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: were legendary coaches, and they just couldn't stop and look

1141
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: at the way it's going for both. You know, Pete

1142
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 2: this year was pretty sad. You know, he's pounding the table,

1143
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 2: and I kind of believed him. He's like, get ready,

1144
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 2: I win, That's what I do. And then they comes

1145
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 2: to Raiders. I actually would be careful though. They played

1146
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 2: the Chiefs this week. Not that Andy's losing sleepover playing

1147
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 2: Fernando and Mendoz over the next five years. But I

1148
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 2: could see Andy, I mean one, he's rolling out a

1149
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: practice squad. Guy. They had ninety five yards of offense

1150
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: against Denver. It's not like they're very good right now either.

1151
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 2: I could see them resting a bunch of guys. You know,

1152
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: they're not playing at home so Travis doesn't have to

1153
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: play that. I could see them ruined the Raiders, and look,

1154
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 2: you better be very careful. I commend what the Raiders did.

1155
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 2: Spy Tech takes it out of everyone's control. Max, you're

1156
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 2: not playing anymore. Matt Crosby almost single handedly beat the

1157
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 2: Texans a week ago, so I understand why Max is

1158
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 2: you know, I respect it. But to me, if I'm

1159
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 2: Max at this point in time, like it's the time

1160
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: I was, I was looking, I think the Raiders actually,

1161
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 2: if they do take care of business and lose, the

1162
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: Chiefs have it out with Max where you could still

1163
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: get at even in his late twenties, multiple first round

1164
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 2: picks because he's he doesn't drink, He's not a part

1165
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 2: of your He's a high character guy, team leader, plays

1166
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 2: There's not a guy that plays harder in the NFL.

1167
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: He's every they love him, I mean, but what a waste.

1168
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: Remember when the Kancity Chiefs traded Jared at Allen to

1169
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: Minnesota and it changed his career. You know, he goes

1170
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 2: to a good team, ends up in the Hall of Fame.

1171
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 2: I think teams Eagles, the Lions, the Bears. You know,

1172
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 2: these teams would be lined up to give you multiple

1173
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 2: first round picks. So I think that's their move. If

1174
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: you get Fernando Mendoz and you just start over the

1175
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: problem with the Liam Cohen thing. Who is that guy?

1176
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: You know? Is it Kubiak up in Seattle? You know,

1177
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: there's not really like it doesn't feel like there's the

1178
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 2: next Ben Johnson, Kyle Sean McVay, who just there might

1179
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: be that guy, but it doesn't feel like he's standing

1180
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,919
Speaker 2: out like Ben was last year or even the Liam Cohen.

1181
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: Clearly he's really good. I don't know. I mean, actually

1182
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: the guys are you know, Robert Salah give him part

1183
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 2: number two? Yeah, just maybe it was the Jets and

1184
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: get him with Spike Tech and kind of that infrastructure.

1185
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 2: I respect the hell out of Tom and everything his

1186
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: career stood for. I do think it's hard, though, having

1187
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: been in the front office and know the time and

1188
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 2: seen how much Tiny Andy and Howie and know these

1189
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 2: guys now and how often they're in the office to

1190
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: kind of be at Baker's band in Florida but still

1191
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: have a bunch of opinions, like, you know, if you're

1192
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 2: gonna you know, Matt Ryan's been rumored, if Matt Ryan's

1193
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 2: gonna do it. When John Elway was the gym and

1194
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: ran the Broncos, he was in the office every day

1195
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: with his guys. It's you can't. It's not one of

1196
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 2: those jobs where you can have. Jerry West was around.

1197
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 2: I saw him at Warriors games every single game I

1198
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: went to, and at that point in time, he wasn't

1199
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: even the GM like so you're going to have to

1200
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: either be all in or all out. You can't have

1201
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 2: because Mark Davis is desperate for help. Like, I do

1202
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 2: respect that Mark has taken big swings. He said, John,

1203
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 2: you do it, ten years, one hundred million. Turns out

1204
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: it didn't work, But like, hey, I no, the Bucks

1205
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 2: were trying to hire him a couple of years later,

1206
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 2: Josh mc daniels six years, eighty million dollars. Again, these

1207
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 2: blew up in his face. But he's taken huge swings.

1208
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 2: And the Pete Carroll thing, I think they were just

1209
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: you know, Tom really wanted Ben Johnson. He wouldn't take

1210
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: their job, right, So I don't really know, you know,

1211
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: Robert Salah, but you take a quarterback, it's who's your

1212
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. It's kind of a weird spot. I think

1213
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: they're the Raiders just kind of got a hope that

1214
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 2: you fire him and you just you hire one of

1215
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: these young coaches and you kind of strike stripe oil folks.

1216
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the NFL draft order

1217
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: right now, it actually made me laugh today when I

1218
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: looked at the NFL draft order, it is I mean

1219
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: John Raiders, Giants, Jets, Titans, Arizona Browns. If I'd have

1220
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: said to you, that's the twenty sixteen draft order, it's

1221
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one drafter. It's like it's the same nonsense,

1222
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: the same owners, the same teams over and over.

1223
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 2: Well, look at look a team that I think deserves

1224
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 2: credit is Kellen Moore in the Saints. You'll look at

1225
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore, what his background is? Chris Peterson, Boise winner,

1226
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 2: his dad, high school coach winner. He goes the Cowboys

1227
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 2: as a player and as a coach where they had

1228
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 2: a ton of success, and then last year Eagles Super Bowl.

1229
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,479
Speaker 2: Like you look at Kellen's backgrounds like, aeah, this guy's

1230
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 2: pretty high level guy. Ask Chris Peterson about him. He's pretty.

1231
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 2: And he goes Tyler Shuck throwing touchdowns left and right,

1232
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 2: and they look they just look like a little more

1233
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 2: stable than they've been over the last couple of years.

1234
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 2: And you look at places like the Titans. It's really

1235
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 2: hard to overcome the Raiders. I'm a big on SPI

1236
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 2: tech guy. But the negativity surrounding the organization that that

1237
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 2: owner uh to some of his just I would say insecurities.

1238
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 2: And you get Tom involved, and you got the Giants

1239
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: who just they've been a mess for the Jets. I

1240
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 2: mean the Jets. You could argue ours is embarrassing of

1241
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 2: a franchise guyse there is an all professional sports right now.

1242
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: He is nor It's pretty bit they was today was

1243
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: bad thirty five to three at home trail. Not competitive.

1244
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: It was pitch and catch for Drake May all right.

1245
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: One college thing. Kyle Whittingham, who I think we both like,

1246
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: at sixty six years old, got the Michigan job. Now,

1247
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: I do think sixty six is an ideal, although i'd say,

1248
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: you know, he is younger than his age. He's fit,

1249
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: he's a skier, he's a lifter, he's a workout guy.

1250
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: I know Kyle a little bit. He's just a grown up.

1251
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 1: But one of the things I would say is, there's

1252
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: two reasons why age is less vital than ever before.

1253
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: One is nil and two's the transfer portal. This job

1254
01:01:55,560 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: got more administrative, it got more transactional. It's it's signing basically. Lee.

1255
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: If you can build a staff Whittingham can, and you

1256
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: have fifteen to eighteen million nil money Michigan does, you're

1257
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: gonna win ten games. So I wish he was fifty eight.

1258
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: I wish he wasn't sixty six, But Sharon Moore was

1259
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: just over his keys, like he just wasn't. He was

1260
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: out of his element. He is a position coach. I

1261
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: don't even think he's a great coordinator. He was a

1262
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: co coordinator. Harball ran everything. So I mean Michigan made

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Speaker 1: the mistake of you know, and this is a classic mistake.

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01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: They hired proximity, not professionalism. Matt Campbell to Penn State's

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01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: a real coach. Kyle Whittingham's a real coach. I like it.

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Speaker 2: I listen.

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Speaker 1: I always felt Utah was the most big ten like

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01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: West Coast team, So I like the movie your thoughts.

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01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 2: I would say, Kyle witting he has more real coach.

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01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 2: I mean, at one point in time, a couple of

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01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 2: years ago, I think he was considered like top five

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01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 2: coach in America. He was rattling off pack twelve championships

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01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 2: at Utah. I mean, you're talking Oregon, USC Washington. Pretty

1274
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 2: big disadvantage for got Whittingham, who for twenty plus years

1275
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 2: has had pro after pro after pro after pro. You know,

1276
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 2: I do think it's a pretty big cultural change.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 2: Yes, he was an Andy Reid teammate at BYU, He's

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01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 2: basically been at Utah as an assistant and the head

1280
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 2: coach I think for like three decades, so, I mean

1281
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 2: the majority of his life is provo in Salt Lake

1282
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 2: City as a professional. Now going to the Big ten

1283
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 2: or again. He had high expectations because he him and

1284
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 2: Urban created them. But this is a different animal, isn't

1285
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 2: isn't it? I mean, I it, you know, they asked him.

1286
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 2: I saw the clip about a while stage, like, yeah,

1287
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 2: I guess I gotta hate him. You know, it's again.

1288
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 2: I think they're very lucky that this was even available.

1289
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 2: A little weird like Utah kind of forced him out.

1290
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 2: Maybe they were just ready for this coaching ways.

1291
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: Well, he said he said he wanted to get out

1292
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: at like sixty five I think, and then he wanted

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01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: then he got to sixty five and said, I want

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01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: to keep doing this and her list. Yeah, I mean,

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01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: his teams in Utah were very predictable, a lot of

1296
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: NFL good old line d line. I mean, right now,

1297
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: two of the three best offensive tackles in college football

1298
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: are right Utah. They'll be both drafted in the first

1299
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: round like the other ones at Miami. It's like, wait, timeout,

1300
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: Utah's got two of the three best offensive tackles. Yes,

1301
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: his tight ends are excellent. They were always kind of

1302
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: mediocre at quarterback. I mean they just they always again

1303
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: kind of just threw out guys. But you always knew

1304
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: if you were playing Utah. In Utah you had your

1305
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: hands full. Physically, they blocked, they tackled, they hit, their

1306
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: physical they're intimidating.

1307
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you ask Ryan Day, who would you rather play,

1308
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 2: Sharon Moore, Kyle Whittingham, I think we all know what

1309
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 2: that answer would be. So they also do.

1310
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: Special teams in Utah. They had good special teams in Utah.

1311
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 2: Well, they get NFL players at every level their defense,

1312
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 2: D line, linebackers in all the dB positions, so that

1313
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 2: they will look like the hardball team of a couple

1314
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 2: of years ago. And offensive, I mean they already have

1315
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 2: the quarterback guy under a contract, as is the modern

1316
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 2: day college. But yeah, I mean I think they I

1317
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 2: mean they were, they were in a bad spot. I mean,

1318
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 2: the Shuran Moore thing is it's probably not even you know,

1319
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 2: we're almost underrating how really ugly it is. You can't

1320
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 2: have a head coach doing that with an assistant in

1321
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 2: the office, Like, what are we talking about I mean,

1322
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 2: that's that's embarrassing. I mean that that was a pretty

1323
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: low point. It shows you how desperate they were to

1324
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 2: kind of keep the harbam mojo up. It's not really

1325
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 2: how it works. And they're they're getting a no nonsense guy.

1326
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 2: I mean that, I'll tell you this, that is not

1327
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 2: gonna fly. He's gonna he's gonna purge that place and

1328
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 2: kind of I think one thing the Michigan people like

1329
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 2: about him, you know, they're they're a little I would

1330
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 2: say stiff. You know, it's it's the culture. He's you know,

1331
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 2: the Utah Provo, Salt Lake City like he's he's used

1332
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 2: to that, like he's thrived in that environment. So I

1333
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 2: think he'll fit right in.

1334
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's do our Monday night hard Rock Bet.

1335
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: All right, John, both of us got it right last

1336
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: week hard Rock Bet Pick of the Week. I'm gonna

1337
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: take the Rams minus seven and a half. The number

1338
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: was bigger against the Falcons even though they're on the road.

1339
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: The game matters, I mean, with San Francisco's play with

1340
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, play the game matters. If it didn't and

1341
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: there were some backups playing, I don't know how I'd

1342
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: feel I think, like the Seattle Carolina game, it's going

1343
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: to be a the energy, the efficiency of the Rams

1344
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: is going to overwhelm the Falcons. You know, it's a

1345
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: little advantage. Raheem Morris was in the Rams building. You know,

1346
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: Sean does know what Raheem likes. Raheem may know what

1347
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: Sean likes, but he doesn't have the players. I think

1348
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: there's some points in this game I would take the

1349
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: Rams to cover.

1350
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Falcons in this spot. I just

1351
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 2: think it's I saw a stat today that if they

1352
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 2: all end up eight and nine, that the Carolina Panthers

1353
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 2: would win the division. So like, the Falcons have just

1354
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, stated the ship a little bit

1355
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 2: with Kirk Cousins. You know, Bijon ro Robinson is one

1356
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 2: of the more talented players in the league, and like

1357
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 2: you said, there is a knowledge between the two guys.

1358
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 2: The Falcons are a bad team, but they're like a

1359
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 2: good bad team. I just think seven and a half,

1360
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 2: that extra half point. I'm gonna go with Rahie Moors

1361
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 2: at home and yeah, take the Falcons.

1362
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 1: Great stuff, John, crush it, go watch the Niners.

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01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 2: See you

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01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: The volume