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It's like we have one brain, she said. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.080 Now the three of us are here together, sitting around 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:22.480 a table at the River Cafe. We're going to talk 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:26.880 about food and cooking, Sirsha's garden, learning to eat spaghetti, 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:29.800 and much much more. And now when people ask me, 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.760 I will say, yes, I've met her, and yes I 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:33.240 love her. 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:35.840 Not so not I know is beautiful. 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:39.520 It was so beautiful, so beautiful. 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:49.640 Spaghetti with crab. Okay, so today we have five hundred 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:52.560 grams of fresh crab meat. Is it white and dark 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:53.960 white white? 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:58.720 Three fresh red chilies, seated and finely chopped, Four tablespoons 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:02.720 of flat leaf parsley, me chopped, the juice of four lemons, 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:06.520 three garlic cloves, peeled and ground paste, two hundred and 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.760 fifty mils of olive oil, five hundred grams of spaghetti. 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:10.600 And extra virgin olive oil. 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:15.720 Simple, simple, Put the crab in a bowl, add the chili's, 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:19.840 most of the chopped parsley, the lemon, juice of garlic, the. 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:22.200 Season well, stir in the olive oil. 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:26.799 I feel like something's happening behind my head while I'm 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.480 saying is cook the spaghetti and a generous amount of 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:33.799 boiling water and drain thoroughly, stir into the crab sauce, but. 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:34.760 Do not reheat. 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.560 Serve sprinkled with the remaining chop parsley and a generous 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:39.680 amount of olive oil. 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:49.280 In Brooklyn, Yeah, you were taught how to eat spaghetti cetti, 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.320 So you're going to teach us. You're going to teach 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:57.760 Greta and I how to how to eat doing this right? 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:03.559 Yeah, because well the girls in the film did it. 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:08.000 The girls in the movie do it with a spoon. 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.120 I never use a spoon. I would use I would 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:11.520 never use. 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:15.000 Well, they do that like they put the go for 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:15.440 your tech. 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.480 I don't like using a spoon, do you You just 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:21.239 use the plate? 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:26.600 Yeah, the Italian way. You just stab it and spin it, 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:28.639 stab and star. 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:33.680 You were born in New York, Yeah, did your parents 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:37.520 still feel a sense of identity with Ireland in New 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:38.680 York and food wise? 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.240 Do you think they did? They did? I think my 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:45.720 mom did. Especially. Everything was just always homemade for us. 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:49.640 It was always it was always the main event of 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:50.080 the day. 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.560 She would cook more traditional Irish stuff, so she used to. 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.560 She still like she cooks like coddle. Have you heard 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.680 of Irish coddle, which is like a stew. I don't know. 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:03.720 She also when I was working, she didn't do it. 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.440 On a Ladybird because she wasn't around for long enough. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.760 But Mom used to like batch cook and just like 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.960 bring food in for the crew, even though. 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:13.120 Nobody asked for it. 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.839 But she was like, I'll just make this and I'll 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:17.560 bring it in and whoever wants it can have it. 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.920 And she would heat it up in my trailer when 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.200 we were doing night shoots on like Hannah and stuff, 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:23.840 when we were in the middle of like I don't know, 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:27.560 Munich or something, and she'd make these like home cooked meals. 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:29.800 And that's just kind of what I was used to. 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:33.120 And coddle is sort of like an Irish stew that 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.239 you can kind of put anything into. Its peasant food, 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.839 like Ireland doesn't really have a cuisine in the way 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:43.000 that like Italy, France, like Southern America does, Like there's 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:47.600 no kind of specific diet except for potatoes and whatever 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.640 meat you can get your hand on. So the soup 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.880 would be she'd use like a vegetable broth. She puts 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:58.440 barley in. It's celery, carrots, onions, sausages, rashers as we 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.920 call them. But bacon, just lots and lots of goodness. 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.160 And we used to have that a lot grown up, 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:07.000 but we had that in the Bronx, Like that was 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:08.640 the kind of food that she used to make. 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:10.640 Did she work when I was a kid, She was 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.000 a nanny, so she would come home from work and 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:13.599 then cook. 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:17.120 Yeah, she did it all lot. She brought me to 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.400 work with her. Then she would cook. 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:20.960 She took care of other people's children. 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:25.839 She took care of other people's children. She would not 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.760 only cook for Dad and I. But we always had 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:36.520 Ireland stay with us. So because Dad became an actor 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:39.200 while he was over there, and that was absolutely not 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.000 part of the plan. Like Dad had not finished school, 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.960 he hadn't even been to the theater before he auditioned 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:48.760 for his first play. And when he got into that world, 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:53.839 it became everything, really and they became such a part 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:57.880 of that Irish American off off Broadway community. And so 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:00.760 we had actors staying with us all the time in 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:03.240 the Bronx, in the Bronx, in this tiny little like 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.279 one bedroom flat, and we had this pull out sofa 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.320 and you'd have like people like Brona Gallaher, who's this 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.880 incredible Irish actor, Like they would live with us and 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:13.839 man would cook for all of them. 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:15.840 Did your parents go to New York out of a 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.000 desire to work? 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:19.000 Yeah? 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.799 Yeah, they left school when they were like fifteen sixteen 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:25.200 and that was the place to go back then. 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.000 So I think they had friends who had moved over 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:29.000 ahead of them. 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:32.520 And then they went back to Ireland. And so you 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.800 probably don't remember New York if you left when you three. 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:35.800 I remember what I ate? 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.560 You don't before three? Can you remember what you ate 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:39.200 before three? 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:40.320 Don't what she does? 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:41.480 Yeah? Interesting? 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:45.800 There was this diner that I went back to for 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:49.479 like a sixty second sixty secondary sixty minutes. 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:54.360 That sixty minutes, sixty minutes, it's only sixty seconds. 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:56.160 Your generation sounds. 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:59.760 Like before you came in your generation. 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:05.240 Version, Yeah, segments. 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:09.120 And they brought me back to this diner that I 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:10.760 used to go to when I was a kid, when 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.480 I was like three or four, and I always had 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:15.880 a grilled cheese sandwich and a pickle. 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.840 Yeah, and you can remember that from being Yeah, and 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:24.239 so was it? Did they react when they went back 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:28.000 to Ireland, did they go back with joy and pleasure 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.000 or did they just find New York was too tough? 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:31.480 New York was tough. 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.920 They didn't have enough money to stay there. But also 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.760 Dad had become an actor that was doing relatively well 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:42.280 and there was a surge of Irish work at that 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.640 time because of Jim Sheard and Neil Jordan people like that, 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:49.600 So the work was just taking him back home. And 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:53.920 I think when ma'm had me, she was adamant that 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:55.920 she was going to have me in the States so 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:59.000 that I had citizenship, so that I was free to 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.560 sort of roam in a way that they never were, 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:05.480 which has been such a blessing in hindsight, because I 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.520 you know, I've lived and worked in the States and 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:10.040 I can come and go as I play, as I 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:11.360 can vote in the election. 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:12.239 Which is great. 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:17.400 But I think she realized that this wasn't the kind 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:21.200 of environment she wanted me to grow up. And because 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.800 they didn't have enough money to like get a beautiful 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:29.720 apartment or have a garden, or to a four day care, like. 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:31.160 They just didn't have that. 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.880 And also I think to have that support system for anyone, 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.040 no matter where you live is so important when you 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:40.480 have a kid. And also the work was taken dad 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.120 back there, so they moved back. 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:43.160 But the really. 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:46.360 Interesting thing that my mom has kind of very honestly 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.760 talked about me over the years is that there is 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.880 still this notion of like the American dream and you 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:56.880 sort of becoming like the next Kennedy. And when you 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:00.600 come back from America and that hasn't happened, you sort 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:03.000 of feel like your tail is between your legs a 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.640 little bit. That you came back and it wasn't the 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:09.000 success story that you thought it would be. It really 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.079 made them who they are and they made some incredible 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:15.679 friends over there, and I don't know if I would 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:17.880 be doing what I am doing if they hadn't made 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.359 that move, because that's where he was sort of discovered. 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:25.000 As an actor. But it was it was hard, you know. 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.480 And they were also coming back to Ireland during the 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:31.640 Celtic Tiger where everything had become so expensive in that booth. 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.600 That was the night that was like, yeah, the nineties, 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:38.559 two thousands, and that was to Dublin. They moved back 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.000 to Dublin for a spell and then we that's what 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.520 took us to the countryside because Dublin was just too. 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.720 Expect You remember the garden. Was there a garden in 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.000 the country side, Yes, your mother, because you have a 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:49.400 garden in London, don't you. 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.120 I have a little garden in London. 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.600 And what was a garden like in your house when 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:54.320 you're growing up? 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:55.679 It was the best we had. 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:58.600 That's where I used to do all my audition tapes 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.679 and and that was always the thing. 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:03.880 That like directors and producers. 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:07.520 Commented on when I sent over my audition for Atonement. 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:11.960 I remember Gina j the cast an agent, and Joe 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.760 the director, and everyone was like, we just couldn't believe 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.640 it when you came out of that orp English accent 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.480 and you showed us around this beautiful garden. 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:21.560 That you grow around the garden. 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.600 It was a big garden. It was probably like half 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:28.120 an acre. It had. I remember when we moved in, 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:30.760 there was two rose beds. 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:33.320 That my mom hated. My mom never liked roses for 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.520 some reason. I think they were sort of hard to tame. 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.559 And she did the whole garden by herself. She used 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:40.280 to use like a. 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.640 Manual lawnmower and she would do the whole thing. 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.320 It was like backbreaking work and it would take her 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.080 like two days to cut all of the grass. It 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:52.040 was quite manicured when we moved in, and she kept 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:52.760 it up for years. 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:54.160 Was it vegebles of flowers? 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:58.080 It was flowers, and we had The people who owned 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:01.400 it before us were an older couple and the woman 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:05.960 was really into vegetables and she had a grapevine in 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.480 a glasshouse. So I remember that was in the middle 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.440 of the garden. And then over on the other side 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:13.560 there was a sort of big stone wall with a 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:16.679 tree grown out of it. And my dad did tree 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.160 surgery for a while and there was a guy that 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.040 he worked with who one day just decided to tie 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.320 sort of this thick blue rope to the tree and 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.880 he added a little log to the end of it 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:30.640 and that was their swing. We just called it the rope, 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:34.040 and myself and any of my friends that were over 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:35.160 would just spend. 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.679 Like the whole day out there. 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:41.280 Yeah, we have a really beautiful garden in Scotland. My 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.200 husband Scottish and. 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:47.719 We have vegetables that we grew this year. And so I. 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.959 Keep thinking about like hopefully when we have kids one 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:52.000 day being able to. 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.480 Be like, should we go out to the shops. 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:58.080 Just wandering outside digging up a load of potatoes. 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:00.080 And onions and shalots, and. 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:03.880 I'm getting so much enjoyment out of that, and I 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:07.320 find it. It might sound silly to say, but I 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:12.080 find it really inspirational. It like it feeds my soul 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.080 in a way that the city just doesn't. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.319 When I interviewed Michael Caine, two things he liked with 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:21.520 gardening and cooking because being an actor on a set, 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.439 you have hundreds of people. It's collaborative. You've got people 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.520 around you. And it was something that he could do 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.400 by himself alone, but he could make something. 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.280 You know, whether there was and it's something that's taken 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:34.040 out of your hands when you are an actor a 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.480 lot of the time, Like I've gone on to jobs 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.679 where I vowed to cook for myself and then bring 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.120 everything in during the week, and you just don't. 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:44.560 You just don't follow through with it. 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.400 But I I really miss it, and it makes me 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:51.240 feel quite empty when I can't cook for myself. 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:55.280 Like yesterday was Sunday, I cooked. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:58.959 A massive roast for just myself and my husband with 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.200 all the trimmings, and it was delicious and full of love. 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.400 And I took a few hours to put it together 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:09.160 the proue. So I was telling your chef, I think 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:12.840 it's from this cookbook that I found called Bitter Honey. 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:14.320 Have you come across that coup book? 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:19.360 And it's this english woman who moved over to Sardinia and. 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.440 She has this beautiful recipe for. 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:25.960 Like this anchovy garlic rosemary butter with lemon zest that 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:29.840 she puts into a micrea that she puts into the chicken. 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.160 And so I made a big stock of it ages 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.280 ago and froze it and then just used a little 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:35.120 bit of it yesterday. 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:40.600 And I did that with like lots of gorgeous roasted 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:41.840 veg with. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:45.600 With a honey that I got in Broadway Market yesterday actually, 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:49.480 which is honey from the Venetian Lagoon. 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:57.440 Every year, the River Cafe curates holiday gift boxes filled 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:02.480 with Italian ingredients. 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I build 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:55.600 my whole day. 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.520 Around my dinner and what I'm going to cook and 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.120 when I'm gonna have it and who I'm gonna have 0:14:59.160 --> 0:14:59.440 it with. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.240 Your mother brought up with that notion of food that 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.480 was your grandmother. Do you think your grandmother brought your 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.200 mother up to have a meal every night and that 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.120 food was that you had. 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:13.240 I don't think Mam will mind me saying mom has 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.000 quite a complex relationship with food. 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:18.880 But she I think. 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:23.520 She's always believed that by making and my dad is 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:28.680 an incredible cook as well. She believed by injecting love 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:32.040 into the food, you will taste that. 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:34.080 And she every. 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.760 Single Sunday, no matter where we were, would make a 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:38.920 Sunday roast, and that was our tradition. 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.440 You started so young, acting so do your mother brought 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:47.400 domestic life wherever you were working. Yeah, so when did 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:48.000 that stop? 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.680 I was about eighteen or nineteen when I did. 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:53.480 Why did it stop? But you just thought it. 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:56.000 Was just time, you know. But it was an adjustment 0:15:56.080 --> 0:16:02.320 because she had been with me constantly for this whole time, 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:08.560 through this incredibly formative, intense stage in my life, for 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:10.200 every single moment of it. 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.400 She was the one who I ran lines with. She 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.720 was the one who when I would come home at 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.360 the end of the day, I'd go, do you think 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.240 this director likes me? Or like, I don't know, did 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.360 this go well today? Or I don't think I did 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:22.560 that as well as I could have done. 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.080 And she was the thing that. 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:29.640 Really kind of kept me in reality, and it was 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:30.840 an adjustment for both of it. 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.040 Did she I share this with you? 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:34.720 She did. 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.920 My dad is an excellent cook, so I think I 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:41.040 learned a lot from my dad. And then also just 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.680 when I left home when I was about ninety and 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:47.640 I moved to London. I was in Highgate, which wasn't 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:49.920 the right place for a teenager to go, but anyway, 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:53.400 I went to Highgate and it was lovely, but I 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.760 was very much I had my own flat because I'm 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:58.760 not into like living with anyone. 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.760 But I do regret that now, and I was very 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:06.840 very lonely, and I don't know, I didn't make a 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:07.920 conscious decision to. 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:11.520 Do it, but I just it seemed to be very 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.600 very important to me that I picked a recipe every 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.240 single day and decided what I was going to cook 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.119 for dinner just for myself that night. And I hadn't 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:23.000 figured out like portion control yet, so I cooked for 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:26.639 like four people for myself and ate most of it. 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:29.800 And I did that every single entertained. 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:31.320 Did you think of having people over? 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.040 You know what? I didn't know as many people as 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:34.560 I thought it did. 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:35.480 What were your filming? 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.760 So when I moved over, I just moved over for myself. 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.240 I just wanted to leave Ireland and I needed to 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:46.480 be somewhere else. But soon after I did Brooklyn, which 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:51.840 of course heavily focuses on leaving home and homesickness and 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:56.280 how shocking it is actually when you go through that experience, 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:58.520 because nothing can really prepare you for it, And so 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:03.560 I was going through that exact. 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:09.000 Feeling and didn't have enough distance from it in order 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:10.440 to see it clearly, I think. 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:13.159 So that was I would say that, and Ladybird, and 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:17.280 I've been saying this recently. Both of those characters were 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:21.040 highlighting something that I was feeling very very vividly in 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:23.959 my own life. And sometimes I found it really difficult 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.920 playing those roles because it was so close to home, 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:32.479 and it was very hard to have any separation from it, 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.880 I suppose, but Brooklyn in particular was very difficult. 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:37.440 It was very overwhelming at times. 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:39.000 Was it completely filmed in London? 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:41.879 No, anything in London. 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.960 We filmed three weeks in Ennescorthy, which is where it's 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:49.600 set in Wexford and that's where Contobain's from. 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:52.320 And then we went to Montreal. 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:56.119 Which doubled for Brooklyn because Brooklyn nowadays doesn't look like 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:57.280 it did in the fifties. 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.880 Did you go to restaurants? Was a kind of experienced food? 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.160 Did your parents ever take you to restaurants? Or did 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:05.399 you when you were living alone in London? Did you 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:08.639 go to Greek or Chinese or eat food that was 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:09.600 other than Irish? 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.320 I ate a lot, I mean we ate a lot 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:14.639 of different types of food in New York. Chinese was 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:18.720 my favorite. And actually, when I did Jamie Oliver's cooking show, 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:22.399 a few years ago, I asked, could we make general 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:25.880 sous chicken, which is something that you don't get here, 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:26.320 and I. 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:27.640 Don't think he'd heard of it before. 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:33.280 Some people say so, some people say show it's like tangy, yeah, 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:34.840 but spicy as well. 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:38.320 It's not quite sweet and sour. It's kind of more. 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:43.640 Like an orange dish. But yeah, we made it together. 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:44.840 Which was really nice. 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.359 Jack he loves does he love food? 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:51.040 He loves food, but he loves how much I love food, 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:54.360 and I think he I remember when we were sort 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:55.159 of coursing. 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:56.520 I ate. 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:59.120 I think I was eating like a burger or something, 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:01.040 and I looked at him and I was like, what 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:01.840 are you looking at? 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:03.600 We were watching something on the TV, and he was like, 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:04.920 I'm watching. 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.720 You while you eat the burger because you're getting so 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:09.600