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In a way 18 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: I feel I have met her through the intimacy of 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: her performances, the movie she's shown to make and her 20 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: fourthright interviews Greta Gerwick, who directed her in Ladybird and 21 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 1: Little Women sat at the table with me in our house, 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: talking about Sirsha and how unique the experience of working 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: with her is. It's like we have one brain, she said. 24 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: Now the three of us are here together, sitting around 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: a table at the River Cafe. We're going to talk 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: about food and cooking, Sirsha's garden, learning to eat spaghetti, 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: and much much more. And now when people ask me, 28 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: I will say, yes, I've met her, and yes I 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: love her. 30 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: Not so not I know is beautiful. 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: It was so beautiful, so beautiful. 32 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: Spaghetti with crab. Okay, so today we have five hundred 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: grams of fresh crab meat. Is it white and dark 34 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: white white? 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 4: Three fresh red chilies, seated and finely chopped, Four tablespoons 36 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 4: of flat leaf parsley, me chopped, the juice of four lemons, 37 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 4: three garlic cloves, peeled and ground paste, two hundred and 38 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 4: fifty mils of olive oil, five hundred grams of spaghetti. 39 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: And extra virgin olive oil. 40 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 4: Simple, simple, Put the crab in a bowl, add the chili's, 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 4: most of the chopped parsley, the lemon, juice of garlic, the. 42 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: Season well, stir in the olive oil. 43 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 4: I feel like something's happening behind my head while I'm 44 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 4: saying is cook the spaghetti and a generous amount of 45 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 4: boiling water and drain thoroughly, stir into the crab sauce, but. 46 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: Do not reheat. 47 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: Serve sprinkled with the remaining chop parsley and a generous 48 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 4: amount of olive oil. 49 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: In Brooklyn, Yeah, you were taught how to eat spaghetti cetti, 50 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: So you're going to teach us. You're going to teach 51 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: Greta and I how to how to eat doing this right? 52 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:03,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, because well the girls in the film did it. 53 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: The girls in the movie do it with a spoon. 54 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: I never use a spoon. I would use I would 55 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: never use. 56 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: Well, they do that like they put the go for 57 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: your tech. 58 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 4: I don't like using a spoon, do you You just 59 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 4: use the plate? 60 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Italian way. You just stab it and spin it, 61 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: stab and star. 62 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: You were born in New York, Yeah, did your parents 63 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: still feel a sense of identity with Ireland in New 64 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: York and food wise? 65 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: Do you think they did? They did? I think my 66 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: mom did. Especially. Everything was just always homemade for us. 67 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: It was always it was always the main event of 68 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: the day. 69 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 4: She would cook more traditional Irish stuff, so she used to. 70 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: She still like she cooks like coddle. Have you heard 71 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: of Irish coddle, which is like a stew. I don't know. 72 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: She also when I was working, she didn't do it. 73 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: On a Ladybird because she wasn't around for long enough. 74 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 4: But Mom used to like batch cook and just like 75 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 4: bring food in for the crew, even though. 76 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: Nobody asked for it. 77 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,839 Speaker 4: But she was like, I'll just make this and I'll 78 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 4: bring it in and whoever wants it can have it. 79 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 4: And she would heat it up in my trailer when 80 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 4: we were doing night shoots on like Hannah and stuff, 81 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 4: when we were in the middle of like I don't know, 82 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 4: Munich or something, and she'd make these like home cooked meals. 83 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: And that's just kind of what I was used to. 84 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 4: And coddle is sort of like an Irish stew that 85 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 4: you can kind of put anything into. Its peasant food, 86 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 4: like Ireland doesn't really have a cuisine in the way 87 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 4: that like Italy, France, like Southern America does, Like there's 88 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 4: no kind of specific diet except for potatoes and whatever 89 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 4: meat you can get your hand on. So the soup 90 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 4: would be she'd use like a vegetable broth. She puts 91 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 4: barley in. It's celery, carrots, onions, sausages, rashers as we 92 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 4: call them. But bacon, just lots and lots of goodness. 93 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 4: And we used to have that a lot grown up, 94 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 4: but we had that in the Bronx, Like that was 95 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 4: the kind of food that she used to make. 96 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: Did she work when I was a kid, She was 97 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: a nanny, so she would come home from work and 98 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: then cook. 99 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, she did it all lot. She brought me to 100 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: work with her. Then she would cook. 101 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: She took care of other people's children. 102 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 4: She took care of other people's children. She would not 103 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 4: only cook for Dad and I. But we always had 104 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 4: Ireland stay with us. So because Dad became an actor 105 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 4: while he was over there, and that was absolutely not 106 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 4: part of the plan. Like Dad had not finished school, 107 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: he hadn't even been to the theater before he auditioned 108 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 4: for his first play. And when he got into that world, 109 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 4: it became everything, really and they became such a part 110 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 4: of that Irish American off off Broadway community. And so 111 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: we had actors staying with us all the time in 112 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 4: the Bronx, in the Bronx, in this tiny little like 113 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 4: one bedroom flat, and we had this pull out sofa 114 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 4: and you'd have like people like Brona Gallaher, who's this 115 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 4: incredible Irish actor, Like they would live with us and 116 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 4: man would cook for all of them. 117 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: Did your parents go to New York out of a 118 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: desire to work? 119 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 120 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, they left school when they were like fifteen sixteen 121 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 4: and that was the place to go back then. 122 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: So I think they had friends who had moved over 123 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: ahead of them. 124 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: And then they went back to Ireland. And so you 125 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: probably don't remember New York if you left when you three. 126 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: I remember what I ate? 127 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: You don't before three? Can you remember what you ate 128 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: before three? 129 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: Don't what she does? 130 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? Interesting? 131 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 4: There was this diner that I went back to for 132 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 4: like a sixty second sixty secondary sixty minutes. 133 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 3: That sixty minutes, sixty minutes, it's only sixty seconds. 134 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 2: Your generation sounds. 135 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: Like before you came in your generation. 136 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: Version, Yeah, segments. 137 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 4: And they brought me back to this diner that I 138 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 4: used to go to when I was a kid, when 139 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 4: I was like three or four, and I always had 140 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 4: a grilled cheese sandwich and a pickle. 141 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can remember that from being Yeah, and 142 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 1: so was it? Did they react when they went back 143 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: to Ireland, did they go back with joy and pleasure 144 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: or did they just find New York was too tough? 145 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: New York was tough. 146 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 4: They didn't have enough money to stay there. But also 147 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 4: Dad had become an actor that was doing relatively well 148 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 4: and there was a surge of Irish work at that 149 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 4: time because of Jim Sheard and Neil Jordan people like that, 150 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 4: So the work was just taking him back home. And 151 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 4: I think when ma'm had me, she was adamant that 152 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 4: she was going to have me in the States so 153 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 4: that I had citizenship, so that I was free to 154 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 4: sort of roam in a way that they never were, 155 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 4: which has been such a blessing in hindsight, because I 156 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 4: you know, I've lived and worked in the States and 157 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 4: I can come and go as I play, as I 158 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 4: can vote in the election. 159 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 2: Which is great. 160 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 4: But I think she realized that this wasn't the kind 161 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 4: of environment she wanted me to grow up. And because 162 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 4: they didn't have enough money to like get a beautiful 163 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 4: apartment or have a garden, or to a four day care, like. 164 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: They just didn't have that. 165 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: And also I think to have that support system for anyone, 166 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 4: no matter where you live is so important when you 167 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 4: have a kid. And also the work was taken dad 168 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 4: back there, so they moved back. 169 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: But the really. 170 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 4: Interesting thing that my mom has kind of very honestly 171 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 4: talked about me over the years is that there is 172 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 4: still this notion of like the American dream and you 173 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 4: sort of becoming like the next Kennedy. And when you 174 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 4: come back from America and that hasn't happened, you sort 175 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 4: of feel like your tail is between your legs a 176 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 4: little bit. That you came back and it wasn't the 177 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 4: success story that you thought it would be. It really 178 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 4: made them who they are and they made some incredible 179 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 4: friends over there, and I don't know if I would 180 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 4: be doing what I am doing if they hadn't made 181 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,359 Speaker 4: that move, because that's where he was sort of discovered. 182 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: As an actor. But it was it was hard, you know. 183 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 4: And they were also coming back to Ireland during the 184 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 4: Celtic Tiger where everything had become so expensive in that booth. 185 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 4: That was the night that was like, yeah, the nineties, 186 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 4: two thousands, and that was to Dublin. They moved back 187 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 4: to Dublin for a spell and then we that's what 188 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 4: took us to the countryside because Dublin was just too. 189 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: Expect You remember the garden. Was there a garden in 190 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: the country side, Yes, your mother, because you have a 191 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: garden in London, don't you. 192 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: I have a little garden in London. 193 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: And what was a garden like in your house when 194 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: you're growing up? 195 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 2: It was the best we had. 196 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 4: That's where I used to do all my audition tapes 197 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 4: and and that was always the thing. 198 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: That like directors and producers. 199 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 4: Commented on when I sent over my audition for Atonement. 200 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 4: I remember Gina j the cast an agent, and Joe 201 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 4: the director, and everyone was like, we just couldn't believe 202 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 4: it when you came out of that orp English accent 203 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 4: and you showed us around this beautiful garden. 204 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: That you grow around the garden. 205 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: It was a big garden. It was probably like half 206 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: an acre. It had. I remember when we moved in, 207 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: there was two rose beds. 208 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 4: That my mom hated. My mom never liked roses for 209 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 4: some reason. I think they were sort of hard to tame. 210 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 4: And she did the whole garden by herself. She used 211 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 4: to use like a. 212 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: Manual lawnmower and she would do the whole thing. 213 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 4: It was like backbreaking work and it would take her 214 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 4: like two days to cut all of the grass. It 215 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 4: was quite manicured when we moved in, and she kept 216 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 4: it up for years. 217 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: Was it vegebles of flowers? 218 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 4: It was flowers, and we had The people who owned 219 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 4: it before us were an older couple and the woman 220 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 4: was really into vegetables and she had a grapevine in 221 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 4: a glasshouse. So I remember that was in the middle 222 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 4: of the garden. And then over on the other side 223 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 4: there was a sort of big stone wall with a 224 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 4: tree grown out of it. And my dad did tree 225 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 4: surgery for a while and there was a guy that 226 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 4: he worked with who one day just decided to tie 227 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 4: sort of this thick blue rope to the tree and 228 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 4: he added a little log to the end of it 229 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 4: and that was their swing. We just called it the rope, 230 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 4: and myself and any of my friends that were over 231 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 4: would just spend. 232 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: Like the whole day out there. 233 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, we have a really beautiful garden in Scotland. My 234 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 4: husband Scottish and. 235 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 2: We have vegetables that we grew this year. And so I. 236 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 4: Keep thinking about like hopefully when we have kids one 237 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 4: day being able to. 238 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: Be like, should we go out to the shops. 239 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 4: Just wandering outside digging up a load of potatoes. 240 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 2: And onions and shalots, and. 241 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 4: I'm getting so much enjoyment out of that, and I 242 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 4: find it. It might sound silly to say, but I 243 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 4: find it really inspirational. It like it feeds my soul 244 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 4: in a way that the city just doesn't. 245 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: When I interviewed Michael Caine, two things he liked with 246 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: gardening and cooking because being an actor on a set, 247 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: you have hundreds of people. It's collaborative. You've got people 248 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: around you. And it was something that he could do 249 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: by himself alone, but he could make something. 250 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 4: You know, whether there was and it's something that's taken 251 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 4: out of your hands when you are an actor a 252 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 4: lot of the time, Like I've gone on to jobs 253 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 4: where I vowed to cook for myself and then bring 254 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 4: everything in during the week, and you just don't. 255 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: You just don't follow through with it. 256 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 4: But I I really miss it, and it makes me 257 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 4: feel quite empty when I can't cook for myself. 258 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: Like yesterday was Sunday, I cooked. 259 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 4: A massive roast for just myself and my husband with 260 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 4: all the trimmings, and it was delicious and full of love. 261 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 4: And I took a few hours to put it together 262 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 4: the proue. So I was telling your chef, I think 263 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 4: it's from this cookbook that I found called Bitter Honey. 264 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: Have you come across that coup book? 265 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 4: And it's this english woman who moved over to Sardinia and. 266 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 2: She has this beautiful recipe for. 267 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 4: Like this anchovy garlic rosemary butter with lemon zest that 268 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 4: she puts into a micrea that she puts into the chicken. 269 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 4: And so I made a big stock of it ages 270 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 4: ago and froze it and then just used a little 271 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 4: bit of it yesterday. 272 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: And I did that with like lots of gorgeous roasted 273 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: veg with. 274 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 4: With a honey that I got in Broadway Market yesterday actually, 275 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 4: which is honey from the Venetian Lagoon. 276 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: Every year, the River Cafe curates holiday gift boxes filled 277 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: with Italian ingredients. 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But like my dinner in particular 287 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 4: is something that I cannot skip. It's kind of how 288 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: I like anchor myself. 289 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: I build my whole day. I'm not joking. I build 290 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: my whole day. 291 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 4: Around my dinner and what I'm going to cook and 292 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 4: when I'm gonna have it and who I'm gonna have 293 00:14:59,160 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 4: it with. 294 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: Your mother brought up with that notion of food that 295 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: was your grandmother. Do you think your grandmother brought your 296 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: mother up to have a meal every night and that 297 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: food was that you had. 298 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 4: I don't think Mam will mind me saying mom has 299 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 4: quite a complex relationship with food. 300 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: But she I think. 301 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 4: She's always believed that by making and my dad is 302 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 4: an incredible cook as well. She believed by injecting love 303 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 4: into the food, you will taste that. 304 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: And she every. 305 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 4: Single Sunday, no matter where we were, would make a 306 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 4: Sunday roast, and that was our tradition. 307 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: You started so young, acting so do your mother brought 308 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: domestic life wherever you were working. Yeah, so when did 309 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: that stop? 310 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: I was about eighteen or nineteen when I did. 311 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: Why did it stop? But you just thought it. 312 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: Was just time, you know. But it was an adjustment 313 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: because she had been with me constantly for this whole time, 314 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: through this incredibly formative, intense stage in my life, for 315 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: every single moment of it. 316 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 4: She was the one who I ran lines with. She 317 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 4: was the one who when I would come home at 318 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 4: the end of the day, I'd go, do you think 319 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 4: this director likes me? Or like, I don't know, did 320 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 4: this go well today? Or I don't think I did 321 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 4: that as well as I could have done. 322 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: And she was the thing that. 323 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 4: Really kind of kept me in reality, and it was 324 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 4: an adjustment for both of it. 325 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: Did she I share this with you? 326 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: She did. 327 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 4: My dad is an excellent cook, so I think I 328 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 4: learned a lot from my dad. And then also just 329 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 4: when I left home when I was about ninety and 330 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 4: I moved to London. I was in Highgate, which wasn't 331 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 4: the right place for a teenager to go, but anyway, 332 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 4: I went to Highgate and it was lovely, but I 333 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 4: was very much I had my own flat because I'm 334 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 4: not into like living with anyone. 335 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: But I do regret that now, and I was very 336 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: very lonely, and I don't know, I didn't make a 337 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: conscious decision to. 338 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 4: Do it, but I just it seemed to be very 339 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 4: very important to me that I picked a recipe every 340 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 4: single day and decided what I was going to cook 341 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 4: for dinner just for myself that night. And I hadn't 342 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 4: figured out like portion control yet, so I cooked for 343 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 4: like four people for myself and ate most of it. 344 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: And I did that every single entertained. 345 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: Did you think of having people over? 346 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: You know what? I didn't know as many people as 347 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: I thought it did. 348 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: What were your filming? 349 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 4: So when I moved over, I just moved over for myself. 350 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 4: I just wanted to leave Ireland and I needed to 351 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 4: be somewhere else. But soon after I did Brooklyn, which 352 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 4: of course heavily focuses on leaving home and homesickness and 353 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 4: how shocking it is actually when you go through that experience, 354 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 4: because nothing can really prepare you for it, And so 355 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 4: I was going through that exact. 356 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: Feeling and didn't have enough distance from it in order 357 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 2: to see it clearly, I think. 358 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 4: So that was I would say that, and Ladybird, and 359 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 4: I've been saying this recently. Both of those characters were 360 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 4: highlighting something that I was feeling very very vividly in 361 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 4: my own life. And sometimes I found it really difficult 362 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 4: playing those roles because it was so close to home, 363 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:32,479 Speaker 4: and it was very hard to have any separation from it, 364 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 4: I suppose, but Brooklyn in particular was very difficult. 365 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 2: It was very overwhelming at times. 366 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: Was it completely filmed in London? 367 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 2: No, anything in London. 368 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 4: We filmed three weeks in Ennescorthy, which is where it's 369 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 4: set in Wexford and that's where Contobain's from. 370 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: And then we went to Montreal. 371 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 4: Which doubled for Brooklyn because Brooklyn nowadays doesn't look like 372 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 4: it did in the fifties. 373 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: Did you go to restaurants? Was a kind of experienced food? 374 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: Did your parents ever take you to restaurants? Or did 375 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: you when you were living alone in London? Did you 376 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: go to Greek or Chinese or eat food that was 377 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: other than Irish? 378 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 4: I ate a lot, I mean we ate a lot 379 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 4: of different types of food in New York. Chinese was 380 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 4: my favorite. And actually, when I did Jamie Oliver's cooking show, 381 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 4: a few years ago, I asked, could we make general 382 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 4: sous chicken, which is something that you don't get here, 383 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 4: and I. 384 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 2: Don't think he'd heard of it before. 385 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 4: Some people say so, some people say show it's like tangy, yeah, 386 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 4: but spicy as well. 387 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: It's not quite sweet and sour. It's kind of more. 388 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 4: Like an orange dish. But yeah, we made it together. 389 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: Which was really nice. 390 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: Jack he loves does he love food? 391 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 4: He loves food, but he loves how much I love food, 392 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 4: and I think he I remember when we were sort 393 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 4: of coursing. 394 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: I ate. 395 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 4: I think I was eating like a burger or something, 396 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 4: and I looked at him and I was like, what 397 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 4: are you looking at? 398 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: We were watching something on the TV, and he was like, 399 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 2: I'm watching. 400 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 4: You while you eat the burger because you're getting so 401 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 4: much out of the burger. 402 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: And that was when I knew. I was like, you're 403 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: my guy, and thank you. So yeah, so we yeah, 404 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: we love it. 405 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: And we were talking about Little Women and we're talking 406 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: about the food that can you talk about both of you? 407 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: Tell me about the food scene and little Women. 408 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 3: The food and Little Women was period correct and there 409 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: were always like cakes and buns and things, and you know, I. 410 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: Was just watching you eat all that ice cream. 411 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: We ate those florins that ate all the ice cream. 412 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 2: I feel like you got it. Maybe it was me 413 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: as well. 414 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: I ate. 415 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 2: I ate a lot of popcorn that day. 416 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 4: It was just really interesting that we would have these 417 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 4: scenes where either there was such a lack of food 418 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 4: and that's all we could talk about, or there was 419 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 4: too much food, or then we had a Christmas sequence 420 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 4: in Little Women where the food was repurposed for Christmas decorations, 421 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 4: which I've been very inspired by every Christmas since. So 422 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 4: I'll like dry oranges and use bits of popcorn and 423 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 4: put them on the string and. 424 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: Things like that. 425 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 2: They got very creative on Little Women. 426 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: When you talk about film sets, and you've talked about 427 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: the dinner, the importance of the dinner at night, do 428 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: you have breakfast and do have lunch when you're working? 429 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely have lunch breakfast. I'll have something small 430 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 4: sometimes I'm not that hungry during breakfast. But each movie 431 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 4: has had a different type of breakfast. So like I 432 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 4: did a film in Australia a couple of years ago, 433 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 4: and they love veggiemite and they love their smashed avocado, 434 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 4: So I would have smashed avocado on toast with veggiemite 435 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 4: for breakfast every day, for breakfast every day the whole shoot. Yeah, 436 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 4: on a job I did at the start of the year, 437 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 4: I was just having smoothies. 438 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 2: It depends breakfast isn't as important for me. 439 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 4: But then when I'm away, you know, on holiday in 440 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 4: places like Italy and France, it will become very continental 441 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 4: and very much about the cheese and the meat and 442 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 4: the fruit. And I think when I'm in Italy or France, 443 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 4: that's the only time that I really enjoy breakfast. 444 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: I look forward to breakfast because of how they do it. 445 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 2: I prefer how they do it, and when you're. 446 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: Working to other foods that make you feel more like 447 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: working and some that make you feel more tired, is it. 448 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's the problem actually on a lot 449 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 4: of movie sets is that less caterers are doing it now. 450 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 4: But for a really long time, caterers. 451 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 2: Would make like really stodgy, heavy food when. 452 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 4: We were doing Little Women and you were braggers, but 453 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 4: nobody knew. I knew something was off off because on 454 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 4: Ladybird all she ate ri Cheetos, like six packets of 455 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 4: Cheetos a day. 456 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: You went back to the food of your kind of 457 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: teenage cheers. 458 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 4: And then we went on to little women and I'd 459 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 4: come over to the monitor and she'd have a wooden 460 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 4: I specifically remember a wooden bowl, a big wooden bowl 461 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 4: with an entire roast chicken in the bowl, like. 462 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: On a bed of salad. 463 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 4: And she'd lead that every day and I was like, 464 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 4: what happened to you? Like, why are you so health conscious? 465 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: Now? 466 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: This isn't the credit. I knew it from a few 467 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: years ago. 468 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 3: A good day, I had like a full leg of 469 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: lamb and you were like, you, Queen, I know. 470 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: My young prince. 471 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 5: Needs only the best. 472 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 4: Even then at the end, when someone was like, she's pregnant, 473 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 4: that's what it is, I was like, that's a fox. 474 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, is it a fox or a cat? 475 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 2: That's a dog, it's a terrier, it's not a fox. 476 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: But there's so many foxes around London now. 477 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: When we have a flat in the basement and somebody 478 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: my son was down there and Bow had the door 479 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: open and the fox wondered, I like, London has foxes 480 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: kind of wild. 481 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: It makes me feel like it is like not totally controlled. 482 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 4: No, And I feel like the number of Foxes has 483 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 4: gone up in the last few years. We have a 484 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 4: street around the corner from us and it's like the 485 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 4: Fox Street, like there's a whole family that lived there. 486 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: If you like listening to Ruthie's Table for would you 487 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: please make sure to rate and review the podcast on 488 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, O, wherever you get your podcasts. 489 00:24:53,720 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: Thank you. I thought we could talk about Blitz for 490 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: a minute. I haven't seen it. It's about a mother 491 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: and separation and a child in separation. Is that right? 492 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 2: I guess yeah, I guess. 493 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 4: What Steve mcquaan has done really brilliantly is that he's 494 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 4: paired the romanticism that I think people who grew up 495 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 4: during the Blitz and during the Second World War do 496 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 4: have about that period. And I think that's born out 497 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 4: of the human spirit that just will always endure no 498 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 4: matter what it's faced with. So that is absolutely something 499 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 4: to be celebrated. And we have moments of people coming 500 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 4: together and working. 501 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: Together in Blitz, but in true Steve. 502 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 4: Mcquaan fashion, it's an incredibly honest take on. 503 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 2: The cruelty of life. 504 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 4: And war and how hard people can be on one another, 505 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 4: and it kind of feels like the Blitz itself is 506 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 4: more of a backdrop for this very domestic story actually 507 00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 4: between a child and his mother and that incredibly tense relationship, 508 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 4: especially between a single parents and their child, and how 509 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 4: when they are separated from one another there is this 510 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 4: invisible tie, as I'm sure you guys feel with your kids. 511 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 4: My best friend just had her first baby and she 512 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 4: said that, you know, even when I'm not with him, 513 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 4: i am there. 514 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: There's one half of my brain that is just always 515 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 2: with him. 516 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 4: And so I think that's what we're really connecting to 517 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 4: in Blitz, is that you. 518 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: Are and grem Nord. Let's talk about grem Norton. 519 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 4: I was on, Yes, I was on Graham and I 520 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 4: had such a great time, and I was there with Paul, Who's. 521 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: There was love that. I really liked them all. I 522 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: did a podcast with Eddie and Paul's great. 523 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. And I think Paul and I knew over the 524 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 4: last few months that with him having Gladiator out, me 525 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 4: having these two movies out, that we would hopefully be 526 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 4: doing a lot of our press together, which is a 527 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 4: relief for us because I think when you're in you know, 528 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 4: a crowded and you're able to look across and see 529 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 4: someone that you genuinely love, like when Greta and I 530 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 4: will do stuff together as well, it just sort of 531 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 4: it grounds you. But yeah, there was this comment that 532 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 4: I was Eddie was being sort of coached on how 533 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 4: he could use anything as a weapon for his show, 534 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 4: that you could use any it could be a tea 535 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 4: cup or whatever, and the lads were saying, how you know, 536 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 4: in the heat of the moment, if you're being attached 537 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 4: by someone, you would never think to use anything as 538 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 4: a weapon. And I was listening to it, and it 539 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 4: really wasn't sort of me trying to put anyone in 540 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 4: their place, but I was just being honest about like 541 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 4: a girl's experience in this life is that you sort 542 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 4: of need to you need to look in your bag 543 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 4: before you go out, before you even leave the house, 544 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 4: and go, Okay, what can I use in case I 545 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 4: get attacked? 546 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: And we can laugh about it, but it's true. 547 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 4: And so I think that's why I made that comment 548 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 4: that actually, for girls, you do have to think about 549 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 4: this sort of stuff and you would be fully aware 550 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 4: that you can use something like an iPhone as a weapon. 551 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 4: But I am very conscious of that, like I don't 552 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 4: have kids yet, But the older I'm getting and the 553 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 4: more aware I am at the effect that that's had 554 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 4: on me as a person, and it does every single woman. 555 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: I know. 556 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 4: The idea of my little girl having to think about 557 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 4: that and this being on her shoulders as it inevitably will. 558 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: Be, yeah and yours and hers, and yeah, it. 559 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 2: Makes me so angry. Actually, it makes me really angry. 560 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 4: And I guess the only way I've been able to 561 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 4: sort of take some control back over that particular narrative 562 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 4: that's just been sort of setting stone for women since 563 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 4: the beginning of time is to at least express it 564 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 4: to men so that they can have an awareness of 565 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 4: it as well. 566 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: My daughter in law is a city planner and she's 567 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: working on women's safety. Thinking about safety, thinking about violence 568 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: is something we do all the time. And you have 569 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: a second movie. 570 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 4: Yes, So my other film is The Outrun, which Greta 571 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 4: has say. I was very nervous about her saying it, 572 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 4: but it's a movie that. 573 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: Nervous because there's no one I wonder more than Grata. 574 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: Did she. 575 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 5: Produced this movie? 576 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was part of your grosses and artists 577 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 3: as a producer as well. 578 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 4: So the Outrun is based on a memoir of the 579 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 4: same title by this woman called Amy Liptrop, and it's 580 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 4: about her recovery from alcoholism. Her relationship with alcohol became 581 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 4: sort of chaotic and out of control when she moved 582 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 4: from the Orkney Islands up in Scotland down to London, 583 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 4: and over the course of a few years she lost 584 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 4: kind of everything and everyone that was good in her 585 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 4: life and nothing left and eventually goes into rehab, gets 586 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 4: clean and unwillingly moves back to the Orkney Islands. And 587 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 4: it's about that sort of complicated relationship that we all 588 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 4: have with home and our parents, but also the healing 589 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 4: that can only come from actually facing your past. 590 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 2: And it really is this. 591 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 4: Kind of very intimate but also very epic story of 592 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 4: just someone healing themselves. 593 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: It's been really special. 594 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 3: It's very intimate and it's very. 595 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: Watching a film of. 596 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: Addiction and a film of recovery. 597 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 3: It didn't feel like I was watching an actor act 598 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 3: a thing. I felt like I was watching how a 599 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:02,239 Speaker 3: full body and need of you know, whatever the drug is, 600 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 3: but also the need of the recovery, Like it felt 601 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 3: embodied in every way. But this scene where you're like 602 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 3: asking the guy for a light outside of the cafe, 603 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 3: and you just need a friend, you need anyone, and 604 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 3: you're so lonely you could almost touch it, and it 605 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 3: was like a force field outside of her, and you're like, 606 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 3: and you also understand, of course you want to use 607 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 3: if you're that lonely. It was just really came through 608 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 3: the specificness of this very beautiful, very stark place. 609 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Have either of you had to experience and experience 610 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: of people you love had with addiction, Yeah, it was. 611 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 4: I think the reason why I wanted to make it 612 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 4: is because I've watched people very close to me go 613 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,479 Speaker 4: through that. Some of them have seen the light and 614 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 4: some of them have not, and you feel you can't 615 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 4: help but resent them and the substance. And I think 616 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 4: I'd carried so much anger around with me my whole life, 617 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 4: and I really needed to let go of that. And 618 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 4: I knew that the only way that I could really 619 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 4: do that, and I still haven't fully done it, but 620 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 4: the only way that I could begin to understand it 621 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 4: as if I played someone with that particular addiction alcoholism. 622 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: For me, especially coming. 623 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 4: From Ireland where it is an issue, it's the same 624 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 4: in Britain as well. 625 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: It's it's so accessible, it's so a power. 626 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: In a house. I was taught that within a minute 627 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: of somebody entering your house, and it's actually rather nice 628 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: is to say, whether it's somebody coming to fix your dishwasher, 629 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: somebody coming to visit your child, or whatever it is, 630 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: you say, can I get your drink? And it could 631 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 1: be coffee or tea or something, but it means you're 632 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: stopping what you're doing to look at the person say 633 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: what can I get you? And so it's the kind 634 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: of little thing in the back of my mind. But 635 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: you also realize that a drink is also walking into 636 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: a house and being offered a glass of wine or 637 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: a gever it is, or. 638 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 2: It's people on their own at the end of a hard. 639 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: Day and they're like, oh, I'll just just have a 640 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: bottle to myself. 641 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 2: And then suddenly that turns into two or three. And 642 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 2: it's so it can be so easily. 643 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 4: Concealed alcoholism, I think in particular, and I find that 644 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 4: incredibly dangerous. And I've gone through stages in my life 645 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 4: where I've set I've been like, I'm not religious, but 646 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 4: I soundly religious. When I say this, I'm like, it's 647 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 4: the devil. It's like the devil incarnet. It just it 648 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 4: infects everything that it touches. And I hated it. And 649 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 4: I wouldn't say I've got total closure after experiencing bringing 650 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 4: someone to life with that particular addiction, but it certainly 651 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 4: helped me to understand, like the science behind it, the 652 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 4: effect that it has on the brain, so that at 653 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 4: least I have something that I can hold on to 654 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 4: when you feel like it's your fault, but that person 655 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 4: won't quit that it's a reflection on you, and of 656 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 4: course it isn't, and I think that's You're right. That's 657 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 4: why it would be so soul destroying if you're a kid, 658 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 4: or a partner or a family member has that issue 659 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 4: because you can't. There is no reason it has to 660 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 4: come from them. It doesn't matter what you do. 661 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 3: It's I remember a line that Noah and I wrote 662 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 3: at one point, which is apropos at this moment in 663 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 3: this movie Mistress America, when one of them, the character 664 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 3: I play, wants to open a restaurant. 665 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: But she she won't. 666 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 3: Like you just sort of know she won't. 667 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: She's not. 668 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 3: Trustworthy anyway. She's asking for money from a guy she 669 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 3: used to date. And he said, having a restaurant. 670 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 2: It's it's like having a kid with a drug problem. 671 00:34:51,840 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 2: It's really straining. Yeah, do you find he. 672 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 5: Says, it's so callously in this moment, But just I 673 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 5: also my friends who luckily, thank god, been through recovery 674 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 5: and are like healthy. I've told them to see the outrun. 675 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 3: You know, you don't want to say the wrong thing, 676 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 3: but anyway, really connected. 677 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: We always end this with comfort. We go to eat 678 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: because of your mother sharing her love for you every night, 679 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: about feeding your husband, about going in the garden. But 680 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: food is also something for we reach for when we 681 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: need comfort. Is there a food that you would go 682 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,959 Speaker 1: to for comfort? 683 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 4: It's so obvious if I do, say mash potatoes, So 684 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 4: don't say no. 685 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,959 Speaker 1: Say it it so comfort for you would be okay, 686 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: mashed potatoes. Does it remind you of home? 687 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 4: There's a few things, okay, okay, so there's there's mash potatoes. Also, 688 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 4: when when I was a kid, Mommy used to I 689 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 4: want to do this more. Actually she used to put 690 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 4: broccoli in with the mashed potatoes and some butter and 691 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 4: mix it together, and that was like, honestly the most 692 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 4: delicious thing ever. But also penny Ala vodka for me, 693 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 4: which I think originated at Alkie Batola. 694 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 2: Right, so I've gone there. 695 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: Isn't it great? And Florence just outside. 696 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I love it so much. 697 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,479 Speaker 4: I actually don't want to tell people about it because 698 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 4: then everyone will no, no, you talk about the best 699 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 4: restaurant ever. 700 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 2: So Pennae Ala vodka for me. 701 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 4: That would probably be my final meal, I would say, 702 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 4: with a bowl of mashed potatoes on the side. 703 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: Do you make it yourself? 704 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've started to make do you make you know what? 705 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 4: I don't make mashed potatoes as much as I should, 706 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 4: but I'm going to make more of it. And I 707 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 4: want to put some parmesan in with it as well, 708 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 4: so it's kind of chewiness. 709 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 2: And but I'm starting to use butter. 710 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: More and more. We've had lots of those conversations about 711 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: butter with lovely. 712 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 4: Salty yellow butter. That's what makes me sad about America. 713 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 4: All the butter is quite white. 714 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 3: I always buy the I always buy the salt and 715 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 3: carry gold, which is nice and yellow, which is Irish. 716 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 2: That's the best butter, and they have it at Cinderella. 717 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 2: Someone said that to me recently. 718 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 4: She was like, if you want to eat the best food, 719 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 4: Eat what your granny ate eat. 720 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 2: Proper whole foods, proper butter, whole milk. 721 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 4: I've gone back to Holts, unhomogenized on pasteurized milk. 722 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: So it would be it would be mashed potatoes. And 723 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: how do you make your penny? 724 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 4: Following a recipe with that one? So I've only done 725 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 4: it a couple of times. It's got a tiny bit 726 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 4: of chili in it, I think. 727 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: And tomato tomato with cream. 728 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, very simple. I was telling your chef as well 729 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 4: about that. Marchella has anne simple tomato sauce. 730 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: Y do that. 731 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 2: I do that all the time, and when I'm away, Jack. 732 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 4: Is useless when it comes to cooking for himself. So 733 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 4: I'm like the tin of tomato in the pot, put 734 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 4: the butter in, chop the onion in half, sprinkle salt, 735 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 4: simmare it for forty. 736 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 2: You're good to go. 737 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: Well, that was a great talk. We're going to do 738 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: more together. You're going to come and cook in the 739 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: River Cafe next time you bring your mom, bring my mom, 740 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: bring your mom. 741 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, I'd be a pleasure you