WEBVTT - Ep 286: There's No Future in Frontin'

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, hey, we're bad. We're black, We're black epision.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, mandra Hey we definitely didn't oversleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I know, I know what happened today. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lie walke up this morning and I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want I don't those days right it was. I

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<v Speaker 1>was honestly like, I I don't want to wake up

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I would love to, like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe because it's draining. I definitely was feeling very like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's me and I'm not gonna lie. Halfway through the day,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, really, Tiffany, what is you You

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<v Speaker 1>get to work from him and sit your own schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>Me me, me, you get to take a nap in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the day while everybody else is at work.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, well, you put it that way,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not something that you want to brag about, you

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<v Speaker 2>over I overslept from my little late, late morning nap.

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<v Speaker 2>I try not to tell my husband that I now

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<v Speaker 2>during the day because he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I call my nap second sleep. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a second sleep, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like I missed. Like the world is falling apart.

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<v Speaker 1>It's falling apart. Let what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Catch me up?

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<v Speaker 1>So as far as I know, so no, honestly. So.

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<v Speaker 1>Earlier today I was on Twitter, aka the place where

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<v Speaker 1>we all get our news from, and the Twitters had

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Zuckenberger as Little Boosie calls him, which, if I

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<v Speaker 1>think it, is hilarious because apparently Little Boozy was a

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<v Speaker 1>band from Instagram, and so he's been using all of

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<v Speaker 1>his friend's accounts like Little of all all those places,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's been bagging for his Instagram back. He can't

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<v Speaker 1>even get Mark Zuckerberg's name right, He's like, mister Zuckerberger, please,

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<v Speaker 1>so we I referred to him as so Mark Zuckenberger.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently there was this sixty minute expos on Facebook last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want sixty minutes, but I do read Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why they were like trending and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wow. So she blew the whistle saying then basically

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<v Speaker 1>that Facebook Mark all of them knew that Facebook is

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<v Speaker 1>harmful and toxic to people in specific ways, and they

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<v Speaker 1>knew that they could actually fix it, but they determined

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<v Speaker 1>that in so fixing it, it would mean that people

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<v Speaker 1>would spend spending less time on the site. And as

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<v Speaker 1>a result, if when you spend less time on the site,

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<v Speaker 1>you're less likely to see ads. If you're less likely

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<v Speaker 1>to see ads, you're less likely to click. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>less likely to click, you're less likely to buy less

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<v Speaker 1>money for Facebook. So they decided that it was worth

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<v Speaker 1>it to put you in emotional, mental, psychological distress so

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<v Speaker 1>they can make more money, which quite honestly sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>every big organization that we know. I mean, let's be real,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not unique to the sucking bug. Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But so I saw that, and then literally earlier I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking to you know, our production team shout out,

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<v Speaker 1>said dad sah, and I was like, oh, I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if Mandy's okay. Let me check her instant because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we do now. Like I figured, oh, maybe she's

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<v Speaker 1>I figured, like you might be riding your bike in

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<v Speaker 1>the park and forgot. I was like, let me see no,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was gonna look at me like mmm. And

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<v Speaker 1>I looked and I was like, wait a minute, Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>is down, and then we all checked it was down,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we went to Facebook. I said, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook is down, And then I tried to WhatsApp you

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<v Speaker 1>to say, hey man, drug because I had text you.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, what'sapp, you know, because maybe WhatsApp

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<v Speaker 1>will ping. So I tried to to to text you

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like via what'sapp and WhatsApp was down.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I was like, wait, what how did these three

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<v Speaker 1>How are these threings? The three things related? Facebook, Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>whatsappen all owned?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sucker Puka.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's here's my theory.

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<v Speaker 2>You tell me, okay me the spy Malu, where's your monicle?

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<v Speaker 1>My theory is the hardy boys, right, the hardy Blacks.

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<v Speaker 1>So my theory is instead of Nancy Drew, we got it,

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<v Speaker 1>Nakeisha Nakisha Drew right. So my theory is then because

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<v Speaker 1>there was also a hashtag going that said the leade

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook that somebody with some hacking skills said, crack my knuckles,

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<v Speaker 1>say less and Facebook down. So yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh how the Mighty have fallen?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I heard that on the radio this morning. I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>a sixty five year old lady. I guess you get

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<v Speaker 2>your news from Twitter. I get my news from the radio. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I heard about the like the and I guess I

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<v Speaker 2>had known, you know, just kind of in the background.

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook's been going through it ever since the twenty sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>election and all that. You know, I'm all for whistleblowers,

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<v Speaker 2>but I it just reminds you how powerful they are,

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<v Speaker 2>because as much as you kind of want to resist Facebook,

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<v Speaker 2>they are everywhere, and even through their Instagram and through WhatsApp,

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<v Speaker 2>they are just taking on every new app out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're trying to make every other social media

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<v Speaker 2>platform obsolete. They've already yeah, So I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it's hard to just go cold turkey away from

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<v Speaker 2>these tools and these systems that are just so much

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<v Speaker 2>a part of our even more so than the phone,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Like they're just such a huge part of

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<v Speaker 2>how we connect to one another and get in touch

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<v Speaker 2>with each other. So it's it's like a toxic relationship

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we have in Facebook and their whole

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<v Speaker 2>portfolio of companies.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Twitter's like the last holdout you know that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't belong to Like, yeah, remember the Snapchat. They try

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<v Speaker 1>to buy Snapchat. Snapchat said no, so they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll make our own Snapchat, and sure enough they I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>although kids still use no Chat, not as I don't

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<v Speaker 1>hear about it as much as I used.

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<v Speaker 2>To yeah, and TikTok, like now they have the reels

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<v Speaker 2>and all that they are. It's I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>what to say. I just hope it's like I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm also like, can I get my ig back though,

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<v Speaker 2>because we had some content, like our social media manager

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<v Speaker 2>Amber had some plans today. I'm earlier, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, so funny. First of all, Twitter is undefeated. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>be real. Twitter is the shadies of all the platforms,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love it. People are going in they're like

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<v Speaker 1>someone was like I was in the middle of an

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<v Speaker 1>argument and now on Instagram and now it's down, so

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<v Speaker 1>they don't think they won. Danks Like literally, they're using

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<v Speaker 1>SpongeBob like crazy. This is one with SpongeBob, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>could tell he like kicked the door open and he's

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<v Speaker 1>leaning one hand against the door and he's breathing, saying

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<v Speaker 1>me running over to Twitter. I have to noticing that

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook and Instagram is down, y'all?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, oh lord, you know what also is down?

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<v Speaker 2>And this is a company that maybe you guys haven't

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<v Speaker 2>heard of. But I was just kind of like eating

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<v Speaker 2>my virtual popcorn and getting caught up on all this

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<v Speaker 2>drama around Ozzy have you heard of Ozzy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they wanted me to be on that show.

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<v Speaker 2>Carlos what's his face, Carlos Watson, Yes, yes, So you decline, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>good because they were apparently a hot mess. And I

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<v Speaker 2>bring that up because it's another big brand that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of having a hard time. Well they've they've shut down,

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<v Speaker 2>But you had talked about Elizabeth Holmes and Therahose last

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<v Speaker 2>week and how you wanted to like talk about this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what's happening with Thearrahos and her trial is

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<v Speaker 2>going on, and people were so obsessed with her downfall,

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<v Speaker 2>almost to the point where it just reminded me like

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<v Speaker 2>when you're beautiful, blonde and you're in power in Silicon

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<v Speaker 2>Valley or in any big company. I just feel like

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<v Speaker 2>American media and Americans we just like have this fascination

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<v Speaker 2>with watching women fail. But Carlos Watson being a black man,

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<v Speaker 2>black man you know his mom or his dad. He's

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<v Speaker 2>part Jamaican and part something else I forget now, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's just is like, damn it, when there's so few

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<v Speaker 2>of us out there, you hate to see a black

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<v Speaker 2>owned business like not even just shut down, but like

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<v Speaker 2>gets so embarrassingly called out like they were on a

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<v Speaker 2>call with Golden Sacks and they used did you read

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<v Speaker 2>this like in the New York Times, he apparently his partner,

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<v Speaker 2>his his his co CEO or CEO or something. They

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<v Speaker 2>caught him using a digital like voice altering system service

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<v Speaker 2>to change his voice and impersonate someone at a higher

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<v Speaker 2>up at YouTube to try on a call with Golden

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<v Speaker 2>Sacks to get more investing dollars. Like the level of

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<v Speaker 2>foolishness that was going on at this company, and like

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<v Speaker 2>apparently they've never really been transparent about their audience and

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<v Speaker 2>how big they are. And like he had a show

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<v Speaker 2>that he apparently you can just upload anything to Amazon

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<v Speaker 2>Video if you want to, kind of like YouTube, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was and he posted a billboard saying it was

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<v Speaker 2>Amazon's Amazon Primes first talk show, first news focused talk show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I remember that that was the show they invited

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<v Speaker 1>me on. And when my publicist shout out to you,

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy l j a p R. Farmer Londons, well instance

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<v Speaker 1>now but no, honestly, because she she does all the bedding,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, I'm confused, because he had he

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<v Speaker 1>has like pictures and like clips with people like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>President Barack Obama and all those other people, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>but then looking at the site, she said, something feels

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<v Speaker 1>a little and some of y'all, you know, you could

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<v Speaker 1>tell if you're forty and above food gayzy you might

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<v Speaker 1>not know that word, Mandy.

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<v Speaker 2>I know for gazy?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Is that in theties as well? Y fake?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? So she just was like, it just it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>sit right, and she was like, hey, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to think it's a fit tivity because although it does

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<v Speaker 1>seem like he's had interviews reputable folks with these like

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<v Speaker 1>little clips, it doesn't it's not jiving with what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>on the site. And so we declined. But to your point,

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<v Speaker 1>it is such a shame because it's not easy to

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<v Speaker 1>get to a certain level of success and then for

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<v Speaker 1>you to do so, and not to say you should

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<v Speaker 1>carry the whole race or the whole gender on your back,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's not fair.

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<v Speaker 2>But and yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet here we are, because let's be real, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be like, it's gonna be much harder for the

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<v Speaker 1>next black man in media to be taken seriously because

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<v Speaker 1>they're literally going to be like, you know, like they're

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<v Speaker 1>already saying you trying to pull a their nose, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>so what are they going to say another assie? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody's delighting in it, but unfortunately, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's bigger than just you when you have.

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<v Speaker 2>A spotlight on you, absolutely, I mean there's headlines about

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<v Speaker 2>like there was another article. It was like an opinion column.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like what Elizabeth Holmes rise and fall means

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<v Speaker 2>for ambitious women?

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<v Speaker 1>So great?

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<v Speaker 2>We had one high powered woman, you know, billionaire on

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<v Speaker 2>the on the front page of all these business magazines,

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<v Speaker 2>and she ended up to be a fraud. And now

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, well, that's just you know, gonna make it

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<v Speaker 2>harder for ambitious women as like a as a cohort

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<v Speaker 2>to get taken seriously. And Carlos, yeah, I mean him

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<v Speaker 2>being a black man, a media it just it. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not fair, and yet that is the way that

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<v Speaker 2>it is. That is the way that it is, and

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it just sets us back so far.

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<v Speaker 2>It sets us back so far. I mean, what is

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<v Speaker 2>it about Elizabeth Holmes's case that you feel like has

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<v Speaker 2>captured I don't know, I don't even want to say imagination.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so ludicrous, Like how does someone like no one said,

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<v Speaker 1>let me actually see if this thing works. Not let

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<v Speaker 1>me just take her word for it, but let me

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<v Speaker 1>actually see if this thing works, because I mean she

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<v Speaker 1>had secretaries of states generals. I mean, one super super

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<v Speaker 1>prestigious Stanford teacher that was beloved quit his job to

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<v Speaker 1>join her. And I'm just like, what she that cute?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't I'm not really to be a

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<v Speaker 1>like a gauge of like, you know, what's super attractive,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's not giving Pamela Anderson nineteen ninety nine, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. I'm just trying to understand, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what was so engaging about her. I'm just saying she's

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<v Speaker 1>to me, she looked like a regular, regular like woman,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know what I mean. She was not unattractive,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's not somebody who would be like, oh my god, stunning.

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<v Speaker 2>H you know, I think she had just enough of

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, when you're glancing over someone's LinkedIn page

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<v Speaker 2>or their resume or something.

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<v Speaker 1>There are certain.

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<v Speaker 2>Ways that, especially in the media, we describe people that

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost like a way of giving them credibility. So

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<v Speaker 2>a Stanford dropout somehow that became really sexy, and it

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<v Speaker 2>became something that was appealing. And yes, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>once you have I mean she had, you know, recognizable names.

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<v Speaker 2>Kissinger James Maddis supporting Theraphnos and it's like every additional

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<v Speaker 2>person who gave her credibility, it made it easier for

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<v Speaker 2>other people to do less work, to actually look at

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<v Speaker 2>what she was doing. And it's this crazy line. And

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<v Speaker 2>same with Ozzy. It's a line between because they were

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<v Speaker 2>sort of overinflating their audience size and you know they

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<v Speaker 2>had a because of Carlos and his his connection. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he was an anchor on MSNBC was it before, so

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<v Speaker 2>he had he had this like celebrity kind of talk

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<v Speaker 2>show host you know, aura about him, and he would

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<v Speaker 2>get big names like the Clinton Clinton's I think, or

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<v Speaker 2>at least Hillary Obama. He had interviewed these really big names.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's like it just shows the importance

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<v Speaker 2>and the what's scary about how brands can borrow credibility

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<v Speaker 2>from influential people that they are aligned with and then

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<v Speaker 2>use it to dupe dupe so many people, And in

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<v Speaker 2>Theraposi's case, it was people's lives, you know, people's health.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Ozzy, you could argue people weren't, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that they were going to get life altering information

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<v Speaker 2>with their service. Is the same way that Therahnos was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, going to tell you everything you need to

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<v Speaker 2>know about with the with the tiny pin prick blood sample.

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<v Speaker 2>But they both went way over the line when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to selling their vision and faking it till you

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<v Speaker 2>make it. But then you have other companies in Silicon

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<v Speaker 2>Valley startups who that's kind of how you get investor funding.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to kind of like sell them on a

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<v Speaker 2>vision that does not exist yet, So like where is

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<v Speaker 2>that Where is that line? When does it become fraud

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<v Speaker 2>versus Oh, we're just really ambitious.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, you're right, because I'm sure there are Like I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>was it? I think I was reading someplace where Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Jobs like the first time he debuted the I. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the big one with the big back, big back, the

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<v Speaker 1>back I the computer that member had, like the big

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<v Speaker 1>is the iMac. It was that something was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>say hello, you know or what ever, and it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't working, so they fake, did you know? And

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<v Speaker 1>then of course they got it working later, So it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the difference between that and her. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>difference is it seems that, I mean, there's delusion and

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<v Speaker 1>there's delusions of grandeur because although maybe you know those Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, to be fair, I don't know, she

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<v Speaker 1>might truly have believed that they were on the cusp

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<v Speaker 1>of getting it to work. I don't know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe she wasn't you know, she was like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we and she just like kind of oversold herself. So

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<v Speaker 1>to be fair, you know, what is really the difference

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<v Speaker 1>between Steve Jobs pretending that his first major you know,

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<v Speaker 1>thing that he that he shared is working, versus his

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<v Speaker 1>you know, her lying and saying things are working when

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<v Speaker 1>they did it. Yeah, but also too, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>for her it wasn't just it's not just the technology.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the fact that these are people's lives. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you saw. I watched Bad Blood, like

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<v Speaker 1>they had a documentary and yes, there's so many, yes

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<v Speaker 1>that woman is too many, right, But I watched honestly

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<v Speaker 1>most of them because I was fascinated. So one of

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<v Speaker 1>them was this woman who was in remission from cancer

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<v Speaker 1>and took one of the tests that was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be done by the fair noose machine and it looked

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<v Speaker 1>like the cancer had come back. So of course she

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<v Speaker 1>is terrified. Her doctor sends her to another lab and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not true. I mean, that's that's that's really bad,

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<v Speaker 1>that someone you know, giving something a false positive or

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<v Speaker 1>false negative. And then you know, I was reading that

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<v Speaker 1>how she's not even on trial for those things because

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<v Speaker 1>that those records mysteriously disappeared. Can you imagine, so all

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<v Speaker 1>of those people that you gave those falsified records to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they disappeared. So I'll say this, She's not

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<v Speaker 1>unique to the big business environment, but it's still wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, it is still wrong. I just I hope that

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<v Speaker 2>we treat others. I hope that we treat other CEOs

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<v Speaker 2>and company leaders and company boards with the same amount

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<v Speaker 2>of fervor. And I don't know when everyone just sort

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<v Speaker 2>of when everyone finally agreed that she was bad and

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<v Speaker 2>that she was a liar. And the same thing with

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<v Speaker 2>with Ozzy and his co founder. I mean, there's been

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like half a dozen articles in the Times

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<v Speaker 2>just overnight about the downfall of Ozzy, like it's they're

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<v Speaker 2>a novelty, right, it's a black owned, it's a black

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<v Speaker 2>man owning a brand and it's a white well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a woman in Silicon Valley owning this multi billion dollar company,

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<v Speaker 2>and there is this I don't know, this sick, this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of sick, twisted fascination with watching them fall. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think with women owned brands in particular, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you look at there was this uh well, first there

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<v Speaker 2>was this whole idea of the girl boss and the

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<v Speaker 2>woman who created that whole and then she.

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<v Speaker 1>Arms.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I feel like every badass woman that is on

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<v Speaker 2>the cover of a magazine one month, give it a year,

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<v Speaker 2>give it a year, and there will be an article

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<v Speaker 2>in the Cut or in the Times or wherever talking

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<v Speaker 2>about how employees accused them of a toxic work culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, not here and not here. I was on the

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<v Speaker 1>cover of Money magazine and Unicorn Squad, But I get

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<v Speaker 1>those NDAs kidding, No, I honestly, those are the things

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<v Speaker 1>I think about. I think about that all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>like in my creating a welcoming work environment and my

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that my employees. I was so proud of

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<v Speaker 1>one of my employees yesterday she she she sent me,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, Tiffany, you know I've taken on additional responsibilities

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to send you my my what do

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<v Speaker 1>you call it? Her not her employment proposal, her salary

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<v Speaker 1>proposal of what she felt like she deserved. And she

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, I was so nervous to send this

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<v Speaker 1>to you, but I saw you in your live where

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<v Speaker 1>you said that you know, people should assert themselves if

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<v Speaker 1>you bring a lot to the table. I was like, honestly, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really proud of you. Yeah, because I didn't because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I look at salaries typically the year before,

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of like look to make sure we're inn alignment.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you pick up new like projects and things

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<v Speaker 1>during the year, I might not make that connection. Or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe your lead did not make that connection, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're asking her to do more. Have we adjusted her pay?

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<v Speaker 1>And we had not. So she was absolutely right, looks ting.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even tell her, a girl, you're getting it.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually surprised. I was gonna say, like no, because she was.

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<v Speaker 1>Because when I looked, I was like, wait, girl, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so it's important. Now someone else might listen. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you might be a Unicorn squad member. You're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>me too. Now here's the thing. Literally, what I told

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<v Speaker 1>my I had a meeting with my CFO George today

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, Georgia, can I get a list of

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<v Speaker 1>like what everyone's making annually, you know, our full time

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<v Speaker 1>and then like what part time is making and contractors,

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<v Speaker 1>because I want to see is anybody out of alignment?

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<v Speaker 1>So we used to do that every six months, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what fell through the cracks. Like myself

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<v Speaker 1>and my CF, my COO, my CFO, we would literally

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<v Speaker 1>look and say, is anyone el out of alignment? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>has anyone picked up something new? And we forgot to

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<v Speaker 1>adjust their pay because oftentimes people won't say they'll just

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<v Speaker 1>do the work, and we don't want that. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I always used to tease them when we were before,

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<v Speaker 1>when I didn't have money to pay annually and they

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<v Speaker 1>would just be working hourly. So people would never punch

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<v Speaker 1>in when we had our team meeting, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>always see them and say, like, Harry Tubman did not

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<v Speaker 1>she did not do what she did for y'all to

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<v Speaker 1>be on this meeting and not have punched in. They're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but I ran out of hours and like because we

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<v Speaker 1>would have like a set number of this very early budgetesta.

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<v Speaker 1>So but I just say all that to say that,

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean, I don't know what it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>to run some billion dollar business, so for sure, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>it's easier to run a smaller business. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>hope that I never forget to check in and make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that people that work for me, you know, are

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<v Speaker 1>are happy.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's say you do, like I want to be

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<v Speaker 2>sure that there is space for people like you, for

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<v Speaker 2>people like me women in a place that's necessarily not

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, it hasn't always been the place where

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<v Speaker 2>we can thrive and run a successful business. I just

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<v Speaker 2>wish that we had the space to fail, the space

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<v Speaker 2>to mess up once in a while. So like, let's say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you do have someone who's underpaid for a

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<v Speaker 2>few months, And believe me, I've been in that position too,

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<v Speaker 2>where people on my team have had big gaps and

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<v Speaker 2>it just it. It's not like you do it maliciously,

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<v Speaker 2>but sometimes those things can happen someone and it happens quickly,

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<v Speaker 2>and things kind of move slowly. Sometimes. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of empathy for companies when it comes to well,

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<v Speaker 2>to a certain extent, empathy about pay in equity and

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<v Speaker 2>how complicated it can be to fixos. But anyway, I

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<v Speaker 2>just want there to be room for us to mess

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<v Speaker 2>up once in a while. And I feel like if somebody,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, if someone went to you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>major corporation, was like, you know, Tiffany wasn't paying me

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<v Speaker 2>what she said she's the budget Hoiston. She wasn't paying

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<v Speaker 2>me when I wanted to get paid, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>like vindictive. I can see a reporter seeing you and

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<v Speaker 2>being like, oh wow, you know, she's all about empowering

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<v Speaker 2>women to get what they're earning, and then look at

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<v Speaker 2>her and they I could just see that that obsession

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<v Speaker 2>in the media with that to tear it down, to

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<v Speaker 2>tear you down because you are a novelty, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is what frustrates me so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I say, it's a lot of spirit because that happened

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<v Speaker 1>earlier this year. Like I'm trying to decide I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to tell the story I am. You know what. Bumpet,

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<v Speaker 1>so one of my mentees had made a mistake. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about her making this mistake online and I

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<v Speaker 1>told her, girl, you have to take your lumps because

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<v Speaker 1>it was a mistake and you were wrong, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but we live and we learned. Because it has not

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<v Speaker 1>it won't be your last but you know you will

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<v Speaker 1>live to see another day. You continue on, but you

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<v Speaker 1>apologize for it, and you and you try your best

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<v Speaker 1>to make amends for it, and some people will forgive you,

0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and some people will won't, and it's their prerogative not to.

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<v Speaker 1>So there were a couple of other young women who

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<v Speaker 1>was in personal finance involved, and they reached out to

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<v Speaker 1>me to say, hey, you know, she made this mistake

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<v Speaker 1>and she's tagging you. And I was like, what I

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<v Speaker 1>had not known because I wasn't on social as much.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when I found out, so the other young women,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they they sent me articles about why what

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<v Speaker 1>she posted was offensive. I read and we were having

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<v Speaker 1>a dialogue and I thought, okay. And then one of them,

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<v Speaker 1>I think she like wanted to like jump on a call,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said sure. And then the other one I

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<v Speaker 1>reached out, was like, you know, if you'd like to talk,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm open to learn. I said, no, one is too

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<v Speaker 1>big for correction, you know, and I'm open to learn.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to jump on the call. She said sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So then I I like, my my mentee had posted

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<v Speaker 1>an apology and I had wroteen underneath it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm proud of you for postings apology. So

0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:42.480
<v Speaker 1>one of the girls was mad at me for telling

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<v Speaker 1>my mentee I'm proud of you for posting an apology,

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:46.840
<v Speaker 1>and she wrote, this is why I'm so glad that

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<v Speaker 1>we have new faces and personal finance, you know, basically

0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:56.200
<v Speaker 1>like you know, like, oh, we're already in the guard Yeah,

0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:58.920
<v Speaker 1>new people are here to push you out and not

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:04.560
<v Speaker 1>quite Honestly, I hope so sis I'm tired. Honestly, I

0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:06.399
<v Speaker 1>was like, girl, I'll threatning with a good time. So

0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:07.840
<v Speaker 1>when she said that, I was like, so that I

0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:09.440
<v Speaker 1>reached by her and behind the scenes and I said,

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:12.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, and then she posted a tweed

0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:16.359
<v Speaker 1>and said people like the budgetnist to imagine it was

0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:19.640
<v Speaker 1>so weird because she thought I was supporting my mentee

0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:22.119
<v Speaker 1>because there was some sort of financial benefit, and I'm like,

0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:25.400
<v Speaker 1>what would that be. There's no there was no financial benefit,

0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:27.920
<v Speaker 1>you know. It wasn't like there's no brand, there's no

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I just thought that was strange anyway, that was her

0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:34.280
<v Speaker 1>interpretation anyway, So she posted she tweeted, I hope I

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:37.359
<v Speaker 1>never become like the budgetista that she added me where

0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:40.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, I do things that are not right for

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 1>the financial benefit or something to that. She was basically

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:46.119
<v Speaker 1>trying to get the cancel train going. I think, you know,

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even because I knew that I could amplify

0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:53.120
<v Speaker 1>that voice and I wasn't gonna do that. I was like, sis,

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I see you added me. You think I'm gonna like

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<v Speaker 1>say sentencing back.

0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:55.919
<v Speaker 2>No.

0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I hit her behind the scenes and I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think that I've done something thing wrong, I'm

0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 1>open to hearing about it because maybe I have. This

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 1>is what I wrote her. So this is how I

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>knew that the desire to for change was not really genuine. Sorry, girl,

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:12.679
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't. Because later she was like, actually, for my

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>own mental health, I prefer not to talk to you.

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, but you can. You could tweet poison gotcha,

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:20.960
<v Speaker 1>because oh, we're really here to make things different and change.

0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 1>But the moment that I'm like, girl, I am wide open,

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, like, let me know, because honestly, I really

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 1>do want to do and be better. And I said that,

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 1>but no, no, no, But you can tweet about and

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:33.679
<v Speaker 1>you can instagram and say all these things, you know,

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>but when it comes time to actually have an adult

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 1>conversation to say hey, Tiffany, this is where I think

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>that you were wrong whatever, and not that it's her

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:45.359
<v Speaker 1>job to teach me anything, but that was offered. And

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 1>then two, you know that if you're going to, you know,

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:53.720
<v Speaker 1>like I guess, try to publicly drag me for whatever reason.

0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:57.120
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, I just thought that that was really unfortunate,

0:25:57.960 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 1>and I thought to myself, well, what if that had work,

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:02.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, like what if she would have posted that?

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:04.800
<v Speaker 1>And then there was this tumbling effect of like, well,

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:06.960
<v Speaker 1>you hate budget Theese stuff, you hate Buese. I don't

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:09.199
<v Speaker 1>you know it's possible. You never know, you know, And

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought like that just would have been so unfortunate.

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing though, with y'all, don't be knowing see

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:19.080
<v Speaker 1>some of y'all, all your money is made on the

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 1>front end.

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 2>It's foolish.

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I've been peep game. If you only knew like maybe

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>ten percent of the money I make. If Budget Eesta

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 1>were to disappear today, I would still be a very

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:32.919
<v Speaker 1>wealthy woman. It's too late. It's too light. Literally it's

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 1>too late. So even if I were to disappear, I'll

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.120
<v Speaker 1>be still good, good, good good, and have so many

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:41.200
<v Speaker 1>services of product I've got equity in, I've got ownership in.

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 1>I advise on all them stuff, sweetheart that you be

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 1>on that's me too, like so, but I put those

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:50.120
<v Speaker 1>things in place on purpose to make sure that if ever,

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to be do budgetiesta anymore. But it

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.919
<v Speaker 1>was a really eye opening experience about what it's like

0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 1>when people really are not really looking out for whatever

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:02.359
<v Speaker 1>the greater good benefit is. They're just looking to express

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 1>their frustration, which is their right. But you know what

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 1>that could be like to like, you know, like be

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:12.439
<v Speaker 1>canceled or whatever one day, and so a hope before that,

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I sent my own self down. I'm like,

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:15.360
<v Speaker 1>don't sit me down. I want to set my whole

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:18.880
<v Speaker 1>self down. But it was just honestly, I wasn't afraid

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:20.640
<v Speaker 1>during that time, you know, because I was just like,

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:22.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just didn't really I didn't think much

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 1>of it. But at the same time I was thinking

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I was disappointed. And because here's also the disappointment Mandy

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes. I don't think people understand how much

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:38.719
<v Speaker 1>that the quote unquote old guard puts y'all on. Like

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I might not say, but I have a list of

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>financial people of color and a day does not go

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:49.399
<v Speaker 1>by that. I'm a request is not made of me.

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Some and many of them are not within my price range.

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Ayd dollars twenty five hundred dollars five thousand, No, no, no, no,

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 1>But I never ever ever let something cross my path

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>that I can't you that I do not share with

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 1>another financial educator of color. Never, you know, Patrice put

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:09.200
<v Speaker 1>me onto that of You know, we all love Patrice

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>of Patresa's.

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 2>King Wisdom, Yes, seek wisdom, wealth sor ry yes watching

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:17.199
<v Speaker 2>him one of our first guests ever.

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:19.199
<v Speaker 1>Yes, she was one of our first guests. She's got

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:22.399
<v Speaker 1>her own podcasts too, which is awesome. So she reminds

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:24.119
<v Speaker 1>because I remember asking with Patrice, like, well, if you

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 1>can't do something, what do you do? Patrecea is like, girl,

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I always try to pass it on. I'm like, oh

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>that's good. So we're in this black money group called Elevate,

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and so almost every week someone sends me something I

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:35.959
<v Speaker 1>can't do it. I posted and Elevate and said, does

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:37.959
<v Speaker 1>anybody want to do it? It's twenty five hundred dollars. They

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 1>told me that I could share. I always ask if

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I could share, but not only just that. Sometimes brands

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>literally come to me. There's a huge brand, one of

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>the biggest financial brands in the world that ask me

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 1>for a list of young, up and coming black and

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>brown financial educators that they can start to invest in.

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 1>And so what I look for obviously that you know

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 1>your stuff, but I also look for how do you

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>navigate in this space? Are you a tear downer or

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 1>you're a builder upper? You know what I mean? Like, literally,

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 1>there was a I just was tired. There was a

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty five thousand dollars contract now that is within range,

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>but I said no to it, but not before passing

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>it on. Twenty five thousand dollars is transformative money for

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 1>a brand new financial educator, or a.

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Few email just to see if I got anything.

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, they were looking for it. They were looking

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>for a dude. Fine, It's just like wait, I could

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 1>be But I just say all that to say, be

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 1>careful that the person that you're trying to tear down

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 1>and attack it's not on the same team as you. Mama,

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>like I put, I might not tell you, but like literally,

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I have my list and I'm always asking Sandy for

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 1>people I'm oh. I like literally, I have like a

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>running list of like dope educators that I'm like, oh,

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>let me put her on, and let me put him on,

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and let me get and let me make that phone

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 1>call or you know what. I see they're doing this,

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 1>and I'll slide into people's DMS. But oftentimes that I'm

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>putting people on with because I don't want them to

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>get excited that maybe it doesn't go through. But oftentimes,

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 1>if I cannot do a thing, I'm passing it on

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes the company will connect with that person and

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>they won't you know, that person will never know and

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll see that they got it. I'm like, yes, but

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not like Hagar, I got it. Like I just

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 1>helped my friend Sondra. This organization wanted me to build

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>out this coaching program and they were like, we have

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>a grant for fifty to one hundred thousand dollars. I

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>did not have the capacity, but I knew Sondra and

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 1>she's amazing. That's what she does. She's got a nonprofit

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>and that's what she does. She builds out coaching programs

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 1>for large financial organizations. She got one hundred thousand dollars.

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>She said, Tiffany, you just got me a hundred thousand dollars.

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I did, I couldn't even remember. She

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>was like, girl, remember, I'm like no. But then I

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh yeah, yeah, months ago one hundred thousand

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 1>dollars for her organization. So I just say all that

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>to say like, it was just such a disappointment because

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I thought to myself, one day I will sit down.

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Not today, bobo, but one day, one day, I will

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 1>sit down. And what I loved to do is I

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 1>love mentoring and I want to be a con do

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 1>it to make sure that you know that we continue

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 1>to be seen, heard and paid in this space. And

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>you want to be mindful of how you navigate. Not

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>that you should kissing anybody's butt, you know, but you

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.959
<v Speaker 1>want to be mindful how you navigate because brands and

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 1>people are watching. I had one brand said that they

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 1>looked at all my social media back two years before

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>hiring me two years because they wanted to make sure

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't with the shits. And so, like, people are

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>watching and they're wanting to put you on give them,

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 1>give them the space and the grace to do so.

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's okay to be angry and be mad

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 1>and check someone, but make sure you're doing it for

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the greater good and not just on some pettiness.

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Amen. Absolutely, And I hope that we continue to support

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 2>each other. I mean I'm not saying that just because

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 2>you're a woman of color, Like we all have to

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 2>support you. Think the work has to speak for itself.

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 2>But let's not relish each other's downfalls and let's not

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 2>contribute to Like there's already enough forces work against us, right,

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 2>why add Why add to that and try to bring

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 2>someone down just to give yourself some perceived edge, to

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 2>give yourself some per like for a good tweet, you know,

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 2>to get a couple of It's just not it's really

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 2>not worth that. I mean, as we can see from

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth Holmes and Carlos Watson, like the world will sit

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 2>us on our asses if we deserve it eventually, and

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 2>people will dance on those virtual graves. It looks like,

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 2>especially if you're a woman or a person of color,

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 2>because it's such a novelty, which is super depressing to me.

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 2>But I think that that's why it's important Tiffany to to.

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's almost like the extra burden of being

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 2>black in business. It is watching every p and every

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 2>queue you know, because it can be so easy to

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 2>step out of to step a little bit outside the line,

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 2>and to not be forgiven and not be let back

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 2>into the you know, the club, the circle.

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you want to give especially, we want to give

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>us a little extra grace space. I mean, it just

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 1>even had me thinking about like, remember you know, the

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>confience that he who shall not be named, you know, Yes, yes,

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I wish you well from Afar, you know,

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 1>because it's you know, ultimately, I don't want anybody, you know,

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 1>like like livelihood to be taken from them. That's not

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 1>the intention. Jesus, go ahead.

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, this is kind of reminding me

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 2>of Delianne Barros and what she just went through.

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh my.

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Delianne the money Coach. She was actually a guest on

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 2>BA a couple of episodes. Agoes to go back and listen,

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 2>and this was a very delicate situation and she I

0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 2>think handled it as well as she could have. But

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 2>she I just saw an ig live one evening. She

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 2>had gone live and it was like, you know, this

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 2>person is stealing my work and they are passing it

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 2>off as their own, and I mean the evidence and

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 2>first of all, Delianne is an entire attorney, Like she

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 2>has a whole law degree. She only quit her job

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 2>just a few months ago, y'all. Like she is still fresh.

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 2>She's still fresh. I don't know why in particular, someone

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 2>would want to steal her work, but she had for

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 2>months been trying collecting evidence against this this other influencer,

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 2>and she named them in her post. Yeah, she named

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 2>them in her post. And I think my first inclination

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 2>was like, whoa, let me really listen to this, because

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, you don't want it. And the other person

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 2>is as a black woman, a woman of color, and

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 2>it sucks to see someone that you know, when you're

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:26.359
<v Speaker 2>familiar with, get dragged in that way. But Delianne had

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 2>all the receipts and I and she also had for

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:32.280
<v Speaker 2>months been trying to handle things outside of the public eye,

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, privately, to get this person to acknowledge and

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 2>take down the work that they had, you know, passed

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 2>off as their own that was actually Delianne's. And then

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 2>it just was like way too far. It was like

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 2>an entire course that had been ripped off. And I

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't either, and what I and you know, one

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 2>of the many reasons I love Delianne Is. You could

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 2>see how it pained her to talk about it because

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, she said it on her live and I

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 2>couldn't agree more like, there is plenty of there is

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 2>plenty of room for everybody. Yeah, like there's plenty of

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 2>people to help. We all have our unique voices and

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 2>there is room for everyone to succeed, I think. And

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 2>and the fact that there's more women of color coming

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:15.440
<v Speaker 2>up in the personal finance. You know, the influencer space

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 2>is not something to be threatened by, and it's not

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 2>something to think that there's only so much work out there.

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 2>And Delian's like, I I didn't want it to be

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:24.839
<v Speaker 2>this way, but there comes a certain point when you

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 2>have to stand up for yourself and get those get

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 2>those attorneys out there.

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I was, really, I was. That's what really paid

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:35.840
<v Speaker 1>me that it was like, oh, I was another woman

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:38.400
<v Speaker 1>of color you know, that did that to her and

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>then blocked her and like, you know, and then I

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 1>saw that because I'd gone to the woman's page and

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I didn't say anything, but I just

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:47.839
<v Speaker 1>was looking in my mind. And then now she's like,

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, she's she became private, that this woman's page,

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:54.839
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like, since that's not you know, like

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 1>that's not gonna say you like, yeah, like the receipts,

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Like for since she was on your web, there's no

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:04.319
<v Speaker 1>way that you can keep someone like an attorney. Kid,

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>just watch the webinar and be like hmm, could take

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 1>your course and be like, here it is. How are

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:09.760
<v Speaker 1>you going to know who's who? It could be anyone

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 1>that they send in so if you continue to sell it.

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 1>It just was because that's happened to me before. Literally

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>word for word, someone copied me so bad. I mean,

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:20.800
<v Speaker 1>we're cool. Now someone copying me so bad they forgot

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>to take my name out o girl. Literally, I remember

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 1>when my sister told me this is one of my

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:29.720
<v Speaker 1>literature challenges. My sister said, I think this lady another

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>sister and a sister who was my friend, like I

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 1>had spoken at her conferences like we was cool, we

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 1>was financial friends. And my sister was like, hey, Tiffany,

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.799
<v Speaker 1>I think this is your literature challenge. And I was like, girl,

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 1>I did not invent financial challenges. She's like no, I'm

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:46.319
<v Speaker 1>pretty sure. I was like, how can you know for sure?

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 1>She's like, your name is in it. I was like

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:49.880
<v Speaker 1>my name. So I went to take the challenge and

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 1>it was like there was one line that said something something,

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 1>and that's why they called me the budget nistas. They

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 1>had forgotten. I was like, when I say copy paste,

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:00.359
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't the first part. She's the second woman that

0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:03.800
<v Speaker 1>another black woman had stolen, like almost word for word,

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 1>like she had done an investment version, but she had

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 1>took my whole template. And I wrote her and I

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 1>was like, and she basically was like, you didn't invent challenges.

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I said, I know, but I invented this one, and

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 1>you have taken almost every word and just switched out

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 1>investing investing. I'm like, that's cool. So she ended up

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 1>taking it down. The other woman ended up taking it down,

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>and then I saw her some years ago and she said,

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, she really apologized to me. Both of them did,

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 1>and so she just was like, you know, Tiffany, I

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 1>was in a really bad state at that point. I'd

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.359
<v Speaker 1>hired like a you know, a young intern. I told

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 1>her to find some challenges online that we can use

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>as a template, and I guess she copied and pasted

0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and I was so embarrassed, which I can understand, and

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:48.319
<v Speaker 1>I know she said I was so embarrassed. I didn't

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 1>want to, you know, I didn't want to face you.

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:53.280
<v Speaker 1>And I was just like, honestly, you know, I mean honestly,

0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:56.320
<v Speaker 1>for here's this thing, I give extra space and grace assistance.

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:58.440
<v Speaker 1>So both of them, I said, that's fine, and when

0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I see them, it's all good. You know, it's it

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:04.319
<v Speaker 1>was unfortunate, but it didn't, you know, it didn't, you know,

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 1>didn't stop the train.

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:07.359
<v Speaker 2>There's at the top of your list. I imagine for

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:11.399
<v Speaker 2>people to refer business too, maybe they're towards the bot,

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 2>but they're.

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Like because I use it. One of them in particular,

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 1>we used to partner and I used it's had a

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of business her way. Then I was like, so

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 1>about that. We won't be doing that anymore.

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:22.279
<v Speaker 2>It's not the pressure to get to you to where

0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 2>you are lying and passing off work as your own.

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that is a real like we just have

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 2>to be real with ourselves. It can feel lonely out here,

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 2>and it can feel like everyone's everyone has the best ideas,

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:34.799
<v Speaker 2>everything's already been done. How do I have something new

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:37.359
<v Speaker 2>and fresh? But sometimes it's okay to just sit down

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 2>and take time to develop your own point of view

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:43.239
<v Speaker 2>and differentiate yourself like any other business out there.

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I hate.

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was really painful to watch Delianne be in

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:51.800
<v Speaker 2>pain talking about a woman of color. But she didn't

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 2>do any more than she needed to to. Yeah, she

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:56.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't do anything else that she needed to do. I

0:38:56.840 --> 0:39:00.439
<v Speaker 2>thought she handled it really gracefully. And I my heart

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 2>goes out to even the other woman because you know,

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I imagine it can't feel good to be a fraud.

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 2>It cannot feel good like it's hard to sleep, I imagine,

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 2>and that there is no future in front.

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 1>No, well that's the that's the name of the episode.

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 1>There's your future in front. Yeah.

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Well it's a very short one. We all know where

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:23.200
<v Speaker 2>it in.

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, now it's time to switch on over, I

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 1>think right, Yeah, maybe a word more sponsors. We have work,

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:31.320
<v Speaker 1>more sponsors.

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Let's hear from our sponsors. Tipping Yes today, Brand Ambition

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 2>is sponsored by all Right, should we do a boost

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 2>and break?

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Yes? We should. So I just got two little like boosts.

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>One my husband went food chopping yesterday and he randomly

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>bought a bag of pistachios. And we're not kidding.

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 2>You've never had pistachios. No, here this is delicious.

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 1>They're so good.

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Wait did you get the pre shelled ones or.

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I did not for it? No, no, I'm working for

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:10.319
<v Speaker 1>It's better when you work for it. They sure do.

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>When I tell you, first of all, look I've got

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Speaker 1>this is my full cup, and this is my I mean,

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I am living my best life. I said, who knew?

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean I always seen the pistatio commercials, you know,

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 1>and I thought that were hil harrious. But yeah, I'm like,

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm into pistatios now whatever. You know.

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Ice cream so good.

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.439
<v Speaker 1>I loved chocolate chip, but I've never had pistasio ice cream.

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I have to try that.

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:36.840
<v Speaker 2>I cannot. I mint chocolate chip. I just have a

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:40.720
<v Speaker 2>physical version, Like I don't really have toothpaste flavored chocolate.

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I love the chocolate chip. And my

0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 1>second boost is Oh. I was like, okay, Tiffany, I

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 1>want to get serious about taking care of myself. So

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I went on ahead and hired a personal trainer. Oh yeah,

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 1>that comes to the house. I feel really fancy. And

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what here So this is like a bigger,

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 1>broader financial kind of like lesson or word if you will.

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 1>My sister is over and Juliana, she is my housekeeper.

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know because I mean, she's not here

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 1>all the time. Anyway, she comes every two weeks and

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 1>she cleans and she's amazing. She's from Brazil and she's awesome.

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 1>We always have a chit chat, but she's she's amazing.

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:23.320
<v Speaker 1>So Juliana came to clean that she comes every other Friday.

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:27.399
<v Speaker 1>Then Nisha. Nisha is the cook I told you guys

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 1>about that cooks for me, like every every other day.

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.480
<v Speaker 1>She brings like two meals from my family. Nisha is

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:35.399
<v Speaker 1>West Indian. Her food is banging, okay, banging. She's making

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 1>lasagna tonight. I'm like, so, but I won't be eating

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 1>much of it because like I'm trying to do better.

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:44.320
<v Speaker 1>But either way, Nisha came over that day, and then

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:48.240
<v Speaker 1>my new personal trainer, Nissa, who's also a sister, young sister.

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 1>So Nissa came over and my sister Tracey was like,

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 1>now this is what I call black luxury. She was like, yeah, God,

0:41:57.239 --> 0:42:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Juliana helped you clean the house. Nissa's dropping off food

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 1>for the family and you're getting exercised by Nissa, And

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I thought, you know what, I'm proud of Tiffany of Today,

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 1>because y'all know, if you just listen to some old episodes,

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.320
<v Speaker 1>you know I was still buying pack panties until Mandy

0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, you could just go to Marshall's.

0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:17.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh lord no, but I instantly thought of that time

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:19.360
<v Speaker 2>when you were trying to find someone to help you

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 2>do your laundry. Yeah, and he felt guilty about doing

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:24.719
<v Speaker 2>like a laundry service, and I was like, let's just

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 2>take your damn laundry ild, just drop it off.

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Because I guess, well, well, because it wasn't. I didn't

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 1>actually grow up with money hang ups because my parents

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:35.960
<v Speaker 1>were really good about that. It wasn't until the recession happened,

0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:38.280
<v Speaker 1>and when I lost everything, it made me so afraid

0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 1>to spend because during the like four years when I

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 1>was really struggling, I used to literally think to myself,

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I would add up how many times I had sushi

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 1>prior to losing everything. I would add up how many

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 1>times I spent money on something, thinking I could show

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:54.919
<v Speaker 1>you sad two hundred dollars. Now I could show you step,

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:57.960
<v Speaker 1>you know. So then moving forward, I was like, well,

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:00.200
<v Speaker 1>let me not spend because I never know what's going

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:03.600
<v Speaker 1>to happen, but it got really toxic and I was oversaving.

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I was too afraid, and it took a long time

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 1>for me to be like Tiffany. It's gonna take a

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 1>lot for you to be broke. You can do things

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:12.319
<v Speaker 1>to take care of yourself. So I always have this

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:14.839
<v Speaker 1>thing in my head, what is the money for? You've

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 1>taken care of your parents, You've paid off their house.

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:18.920
<v Speaker 1>You've paid off all your debt. You've paid off your

0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:21.439
<v Speaker 1>house so you don't have even a mortgage. You paid

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:24.520
<v Speaker 1>off your student loans, you paid off your car. Tiffy,

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:26.799
<v Speaker 1>you and your husband are debt free, like toddlers. You

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 1>make sure you look. You have a college fund for Supergirl,

0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:32.320
<v Speaker 1>my stepdaughter. You have a college fun for my nieces

0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and my nephew. You're good. You donate back to charity.

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:38.319
<v Speaker 1>You're good, like, what is the money for? You know,

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you're set aside for retirement. You're good like, I think

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 1>you can get your laundry done, you know, so to

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 1>have niece to come. And what I thought is that

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say price is because sometimes things are not

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 1>as expensive as you think. My friend Cabro used to

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:54.279
<v Speaker 1>push me to say, have you even priced it because

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:56.759
<v Speaker 1>he's my fancy friend. He's like, let's go. As I

0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 1>told him, I was like, I want to range Rover

0:43:58.200 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 1>one day. He's like, well, why don't we go test

0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:01.560
<v Speaker 1>drive it today. I'm like, I don't have range over money.

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:03.839
<v Speaker 1>He's like, how would you know? Have you priced it?

0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:06.120
<v Speaker 1>We went, we tested over a range Rover and I

0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 1>hated it. I didn't like the drive. He was like, see,

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:11.880
<v Speaker 1>you would have spent the next five years hoping, wishing,

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>dreaming about a range Rover, not knowing that you didn't

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 1>even like it, you know, and so so price is right.

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:22.479
<v Speaker 1>So Nisha is eighty dollars a meal, and a meal

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 1>feeds about eight people, six to eight people, so it's

0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 1>like ten bucks of person. I'm like girl Juliana to

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:30.440
<v Speaker 1>clean the house, and she came every week. It'd be

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<v Speaker 1>one thirty a week, but she comes every other week,

0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 1>so it's one fifty. You know, I always give everybody tips,

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:36.480
<v Speaker 1>but that's like the bear bones what they ask for.

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>So one fifty to clean my house is three floors,

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I said, five bedrooms, three bathrooms. Yeah that's what she

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 1>charged it. But I always give her, like a really

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:47.600
<v Speaker 1>good twenty five percent tip.

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:51.280
<v Speaker 2>I know, everybody's a little house, just the main floor.

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 2>My good old neighbor Paulette comes over every other week.

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:58.799
<v Speaker 1>I love sick and then and then Nissa herself is

0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:02.120
<v Speaker 1>for her to come every session is like if I

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:03.719
<v Speaker 1>were to come to her, I think the session would

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:05.840
<v Speaker 1>have been forty, but it's because she comes to me,

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 1>the session is an extra ten bucks, so it's fifty.

0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, that's really fair, right, I was like these,

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean now, ten years ago, when I was broke,

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 1>this would have been way too much money. But for

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:18.080
<v Speaker 1>me now, that's not an exorbitant amount of money. Fifty

0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 1>bucks for a training session, one fifty to get the

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:23.480
<v Speaker 1>house clean, you know, ten bucks a meal to have

0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:25.800
<v Speaker 1>like a home cooked meal cooked for us at home,

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 1>so much so that now I have her do my

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:29.680
<v Speaker 1>parents on the weekend. She cooks like two meals for

0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:32.080
<v Speaker 1>them every Sunday, so they have like, you know, two

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 1>meals for the week, so my mom doesn't have to

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:35.839
<v Speaker 1>cook as much. But I just say all that to

0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 1>say that, like my boost is you know, allowing myself

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'm giving you permission as well to spend the money.

0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:46.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, like of course you want to be responsible,

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 1>but you also want to live well now and I

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:53.400
<v Speaker 1>still struggle past that, but like, it feels good to

0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 1>know that I have put things in place to make

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:58.239
<v Speaker 1>my life more comfortable, that I've worked hard, and even

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:00.360
<v Speaker 1>if I had it didn't work hard. If I have

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:02.320
<v Speaker 1>the money to do so in a way that's responsible,

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 1>why not? And so I'm just trying to learn that

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:06.800
<v Speaker 1>lesson for myself. So hopefully that'll be a little opener

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:09.919
<v Speaker 1>for someone who's listening, Like, Okay, I can do it.

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I can spend it ten to ten bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I feel like once you move on to

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:17.319
<v Speaker 2>fancy nuts like pistachios, you are well on your way

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:18.920
<v Speaker 2>because them nuts are not cheap.

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know Superman bought those. He's fancy, well but lit, bougie.

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Well treat yourself. I think that's amazing. I'm glad that

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 2>you've come a long way from pack panties.

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:30.240
<v Speaker 1>When you get your underwear.

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Now, Tiffany, what have we moved up to?

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:35.440
<v Speaker 1>What if we moved up to? I just left a hubband?

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:40.799
<v Speaker 2>Bye? Oh okay, I would never I want to be comfortable. Okay,

0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:43.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do a quick I have so many okay,

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:45.360
<v Speaker 2>but I'm going to do a quick one because I

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:47.359
<v Speaker 2>don't think I've shouted out this tool yet, but as

0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:51.840
<v Speaker 2>a new solopreneur who's getting who has like seventeen different

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:54.799
<v Speaker 2>work personalities and income streams and stuff, I feel like

0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm One of the first tools I invested in was

0:46:57.480 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 2>a service called Calendly like calendar with the l Y

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 2>at the end, and this has been the most I mean,

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 2>I just can breathe a sigh of relief whenever I

0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:11.239
<v Speaker 2>use calend Lee because they help you schedule appointments and

0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:13.680
<v Speaker 2>you can literally send someone a link and they have

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:16.880
<v Speaker 2>access to your calendar. Now, my admin rocks. She knows

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:19.319
<v Speaker 2>that my calendar was a little jankie jink, and it

0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 2>wasn't it was my fault that I hadn't set it

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:23.239
<v Speaker 2>up right. But once we got that all squared away,

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Calendlee has been a dream and I'm able to schedule

0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:30.680
<v Speaker 2>everything from like podcasts recordings or podcast meetings to you know,

0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:34.360
<v Speaker 2>the free coaching sessions that I've been doing, and people

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:36.160
<v Speaker 2>can add to my calendar and I don't have to

0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:38.680
<v Speaker 2>do the whole email back and forth with like here

0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 2>are the dates and times, and it's like nine twenty

0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:43.440
<v Speaker 2>nine between one and two and two and three and

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:45.799
<v Speaker 2>three and you know all that is gone. So and

0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:48.160
<v Speaker 2>I think calend Lee was a couple hundred bucks for

0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 2>the year, and I think that was a couple hundred

0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:53.919
<v Speaker 2>bucks well spent. So if you are out there struggling

0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:56.879
<v Speaker 2>and you aren't using a calendar system like Calendar, there's

0:47:56.920 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 2>also schedule Once. I think that was also one that

0:47:59.880 --> 0:48:03.440
<v Speaker 2>I looked at, but I highly highly recommend it. It

0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:06.800
<v Speaker 2>really has taken a lot of stress off my shoulders

0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 2>in terms of like keeping my calendars. Great.

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Yes, honestly I love those tools by them yet, right,

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 1>so what are the tools you use? I use? I

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:19.120
<v Speaker 1>use calendarly, we do sometimes, but we also use Slack,

0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:22.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, for like interols. Right, so that's a tool.

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:23.799
<v Speaker 1>What's another tool that you're like, Oh my gosh, I

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:24.239
<v Speaker 1>love it.

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Canva Yeah, oh yes, Canvra and we are sponsored by Canva.

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I love Camera Canva Pro. I mean, get it.

0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:33.360
<v Speaker 2>It's worth every penny. It is worth every penny.

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:35.319
<v Speaker 1>You see camera. You got a freebee with us because

0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:38.759
<v Speaker 1>we wasn't even and also too, I love you know,

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:40.799
<v Speaker 1>I love help Scout. I don't know if you've ever

0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 1>heard of it, but help Scout. So we started to

0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:47.040
<v Speaker 1>use help scout to do customer support for the Literature Academy.

0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's really a customer support tool, which is which

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:53.440
<v Speaker 1>is an amazing customer support tool because you can have

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 1>like automatic responses. You can have like you know, people

0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:58.439
<v Speaker 1>can write when they write certain emails like I'm locked out,

0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:00.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, you can just click a button and it

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 1>answers like you know, responses that you've already created. But

0:49:04.880 --> 0:49:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I love the help scout so much. I actually use

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:09.560
<v Speaker 1>help scout for like my admin and I use help

0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:13.560
<v Speaker 1>scout because it helps us to organize our emails in

0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:17.360
<v Speaker 1>such a way. M h it so you can like,

0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:20.080
<v Speaker 1>literally we have help Scout really helps is if you

0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 1>have like different teams. So we've got like our customer

0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:28.960
<v Speaker 1>support team, We've got our finance team, our our organization team,

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and then me and so we're all so think about it,

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:34.200
<v Speaker 1>like we're all at the post office and there's this

0:49:34.239 --> 0:49:38.000
<v Speaker 1>different mailboxes. So something can land in my mailbox and

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I could just click move and it'll move it to

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:42.839
<v Speaker 1>the mailbox's supposed to be. And just because sometimes people

0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:45.640
<v Speaker 1>will say, Hey, Tiffany, I'm locked out of the Literature Academy,

0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:47.400
<v Speaker 1>and before it I have to be like, oh, I

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:49.839
<v Speaker 1>have to ce see the customer support team. No no, no,

0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Now I can literally just move you on over to

0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:55.520
<v Speaker 1>the Yeah. So it's really great. And then let's just

0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:58.239
<v Speaker 1>say someone like sometimes people will DM me on ig

0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and say, hey, Tiffany up with the academy, but I

0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 1>forgot my password. So what I can do is if

0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:06.880
<v Speaker 1>they give me their name and email. You know, sometimes

0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I can just I can type into the search bar

0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and it'll search all for email boxes and I'm like,

0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:15.680
<v Speaker 1>oh girl, it's right here, So help Scout to me.

0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>It might not make sense if you just have just

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 1>you yourself, but if you've got multiple teams, honestly, especially

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:24.240
<v Speaker 1>if you like need customer support, oh my gosh. Help

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Scout is is Bay.

0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:31.120
<v Speaker 2>You can reach us at Brownabission Podcast at gmail dot com.

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:34.880
<v Speaker 2>If you would like to pay for advertisements the freebeet

0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:36.719
<v Speaker 2>it's a little taste, let him know if you go

0:50:36.760 --> 0:50:39.439
<v Speaker 2>to help Scout that you heard from Brown Ambish.

0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:40.960
<v Speaker 1>That's true.

0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I love it, and that reminds me. We are putting

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:45.200
<v Speaker 2>together like a little list of BA faves for the

0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:47.759
<v Speaker 2>for our new when we get our brand new website.

0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have ba phaves because it's there's just so

0:50:52.320 --> 0:50:54.120
<v Speaker 1>many things that we use that, you know, like just

0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:57.640
<v Speaker 1>evening like Riverside. You know where we put our where

0:50:57.640 --> 0:50:58.840
<v Speaker 1>we do our podcast.

0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:00.880
<v Speaker 2>On Riversides in the penalty box as far as I'm concerned.

0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:01.719
<v Speaker 2>But let's not go there.

0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, never mind.

0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to do that big live event and they

0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:06.839
<v Speaker 2>were just so it was just a little complex, Okay,

0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 2>a little complex.

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I like, honestly, I'm not gonna lie. I

0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:11.960
<v Speaker 1>like stream Yard. If we're trying to do stuff like that.

0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Streamyard is the jam because Streamyard, you can if I

0:51:15.040 --> 0:51:17.400
<v Speaker 1>go live on stream Yard, I can go live on Twitter,

0:51:17.880 --> 0:51:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I can go live on Facebook, I can go live

0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:23.000
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube and then also Streamyard the stream Yard platform

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:25.560
<v Speaker 1>all at the same time simultaneously. And it looks really clean.

0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:27.640
<v Speaker 1>And I can literally have like things pop up, like

0:51:27.920 --> 0:51:30.000
<v Speaker 1>and the link, the link can pop up. You could

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:31.680
<v Speaker 1>do like a scrolling link. You could put people in

0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:33.919
<v Speaker 1>the green room and have them come up. It's yeah,

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:35.880
<v Speaker 1>stream Yard is pretty amazing.

0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:37.600
<v Speaker 2>I feel like you need to do like an annual

0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:42.480
<v Speaker 2>as a business owner, an annual tools check or be

0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:46.239
<v Speaker 2>using the latest and the greatest what if you're struggling. Yes, absolutely,

0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:49.160
<v Speaker 2>I love what I hang around for our or wait out,

0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:51.120
<v Speaker 2>wait wait a little bit for our ba fhaves list.

0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:55.200
<v Speaker 2>But definitely I think that there are some amazing tools

0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:58.000
<v Speaker 2>out there. And Calendly is bay. Yeah, I will just

0:51:58.080 --> 0:51:58.640
<v Speaker 2>leave it there.

0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:04.000
<v Speaker 1>It's been an amazing show. As per us, we got

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:06.120
<v Speaker 1>it together. Thanks for dragging me out of my cave,

0:52:07.320 --> 0:52:10.240
<v Speaker 1>no problem. Don't forget y'all. You know we always always

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:12.840
<v Speaker 1>have our BA QA. That's what comes up, you know,

0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:14.920
<v Speaker 1>a couple of days after this episode comes out. So

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:17.759
<v Speaker 1>if you have a QA for the BA certainly ask

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:21.800
<v Speaker 1>us questions. We are a Brown and Vision podcast on Instagram.

0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 1>You can slide into our d MS. You can go

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<v Speaker 1>to brannibisionpodcast dot com and click ask anything or email

0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:34.239
<v Speaker 1>us at just the always want I forget email Bannibision

0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Podcasts at gmail dot com. I don't know why, like

0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:39.080
<v Speaker 1>what you know what it is? It is because the

0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Twitter one throws me off, but like, yes, Brown and

0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Bison podcast.

0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Do I know if you guys know who owns the

0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:47.439
<v Speaker 2>brown Ambition handle on Twitter? Just like, come on help

0:52:47.480 --> 0:52:47.719
<v Speaker 2>us out.

0:52:47.719 --> 0:52:49.480
<v Speaker 1>We've been trying to ask because that would just make

0:52:49.520 --> 0:52:52.560
<v Speaker 1>my life easier. So I get to say the same

0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:54.400
<v Speaker 1>thing over and over. But yeah, we love your your

0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:57.839
<v Speaker 1>If you have a question about finance, question about careers,

0:52:58.280 --> 0:53:02.120
<v Speaker 1>question about answer jacent things like buying a house, investing

0:53:02.200 --> 0:53:05.920
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. In business, I love entrepreneurship talk, you know,

0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:08.120
<v Speaker 1>slide on into DMS because we will take care of

0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:10.480
<v Speaker 1>you on our second episode. And if you liked this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know you did, I want you to drop

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<v Speaker 1>the link in the group chat. Okay, get your key

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<v Speaker 1>key on, you know, text it to your bestie, to

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<v Speaker 1>your mom, to your your work best friend, your work husband,

0:53:22.760 --> 0:53:30.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, because I see how we are climbing the charts. Yes, yeah,

0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:32.719
<v Speaker 1>we're top one hundred in business on iTunes.

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, nice checked that once in a while.

0:53:36.440 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just checked. I was looking up something else.

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I was looking, you know, that if someone had posted

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:43.880
<v Speaker 1>their their status like on inside. I was like, wait,

0:53:44.239 --> 0:53:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I know that hair. It's Mandy's so like you were

0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:48.600
<v Speaker 1>cut off because they were posting beers and I was like, wait,

0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:50.200
<v Speaker 1>we're number of whatever we were and I was like

0:53:50.200 --> 0:53:51.640
<v Speaker 1>oh wow. Then it made me go, look.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, dope talk one hundred not shabby.

0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think we're even, like, you know, close to

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<v Speaker 1>like top fifty. So we're doing awesome, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all gys on Friday for b a Q and a bye.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm